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Spike Protein Is Still Circulating 5 Months From Vaccination (VT)
Early Vaccinees Are Twice As Likely To Catch Covid As Later Recipients (ToI)
New Mandate That MUST Be Enforced NOW (Denninger)
About The French Guyana Paper From The CDC (IM Doc)
A Last Word of Caution (VanDen Bossche)
Journalists: Covid-19 News ‘Censored’ To Create ‘One Official Narrative’ (PG)
Here We Go Again (Berenson)
Most Covid Patients In UK Hospitals Only Tested Positive After Admission (ZH)
A Long-term Perspective On Immunity To COVID (Nature)
Decline In UK COVID Cases Signals Coming “Inflection” For US (ZH)
In a Hall of Mirrors You Have To Break Some Glass To See Clearly (Kunstler)
The Jan. 6th Show Trials Threaten All of Us (Ron Paul)

 

 

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Since the “vaccines” have only been used for some 5 months, this means: “To infinity and beyond!”.

And since Covid is so similar to the flu, what happens if you catch that next year, or the one after that?

Spike Protein Is Still Circulating 5 Months From Vaccination (VT)

Robert Malone has said you need to measure duration, distribution, and amount for the spike protein. FDA never did this; one of our researchers did. They found spike protein is still circulating 5 months from vaccination in 100% of patients tested (6 people; random pick). And yes, they plan to publish this. But I wanted to give our followers advance notice. One of the 6 had spike in 15% of his monocytes!!! This is NOT limited to 5 months out… This could last for years, we just don’t know yet. The 6 were randomly picked. They wanted to use them as “healthy controls.” Then the researchers freaked out when they found this. Whoa. Anyone can verify this but nobody in academia will attempt to do this. The results will be too embarrassing. It will prove Malone was right the whole time about importance of measuring those 3 things. He said this on the Darkhorse podcast that was censored on YouTube.


THIS IS NOT NORMAL. The antigen is supposed to stick around for a week or two and vanish. Is it any wonder why people who have been vaccinated have long term symptoms? Part of this is permanent damage caused by the inflammation (which causes scarring which doesn’t heal)… The antigen (in this case spike) is SUPPOSED to disappear in 2 weeks. So this can explain long-term vaccine symptoms (along with permanent or temp damage from the inflammation and blood clots caused by the vaccine). Permanent damage is from scarring caused by inflammation. Anyone can replicate this if they have the proper assays. Will anyone? Will they be able to get it published? That’s the big question. Journals censor by deeming unfavorable research as “out of scope” for the journal.

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The spike proteins stay, but they don’t protect you (any longer, if they ever did).

Early Vaccinees Are Twice As Likely To Catch Covid As Later Recipients (ToI)

People vaccinated before late February are twice as likely to catch the coronavirus than other inoculated Israelis, according to new research. “We looked at tens of thousands of people tested in the month of June, alongside data on how long had passed since their second shot, and found that those vaccinated early were more likely to test positive,” Dr. Yotam Shenhar, who headed the research, told The Times of Israel. “This definitely reinforces the argument for giving a third vaccine dose to the elderly.” The report, published by the healthcare provider Leumit, comes on the heels of other Israeli studies that suggest a decreasing vaccine effectiveness, partly as a result of the Delta variant and partly because of the passage of time. However, British data indicates the Israeli studies may be overstating the case.

Data released by the Health Ministry on Thursday suggested that people vaccinated in January were said to have just 16% protection against infection now, while in those vaccinated in April the effectiveness was at 75%. The Leumit study looked only at the apparent waning of protection over time, and divided the vaccinated population into two based on inoculation dates, comparing early vaccinators to late vaccinators. Shenhar, head of Leumit’s labs, acknowledged that the early vaccinators group includes many people who raced to get shots because they have underlying illnesses, which may make them more vulnerable to infection. But he said that could not fully account for the stark effect seen in the data. Shenhar said the data should prompt the government to seriously consider booster shots for over-70s.

[..] In his study, the apparent waning effect in immunity was felt across all ages. For all age groups, early vaccinators were 1.95 times more likely to be confirmed coronavirus positive. Among those aged 60-plus, early vaccinators are twice as likely to get infected. For those aged 40-59 early vaccinators are 2.1 times more vulnerable, and among under 39s they are 1.6 more likely to catch the coronavirus. “In a previous analysis we showed that as time passes since the vaccine, the level of antibodies drops at a rate of about 40% per month. This new study builds a clearer picture of the effect seen in the months after vaccination,” said Shenhar.

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As I said in Rage Against the Vaccine, we are finding out that the vaccinated are the spreaders. This is such a blow to the official story, they’ll deny it as long as possible.

New Mandate That MUST Be Enforced NOW (Denninger)

Work in health care? I don’t care if you are in direct patient-care or not; if you work in a medical facility of any sort this applies to you if you took the jab. We now know if you become infected with Covid, and you had the jab, you will have a higher viral titer before becoming symptomatic, if you become symptomatic at all. That is, you, compared against someone who did not take the jab where you are both infected, are much more likely to transmit the virus to someone else before knowing if you get infected. Since viral replication occurs in hours per cycle, not days, testing, unless on an every day basis, is not sufficient to detect the risk. Nearly everyone coming into a medical facility is at heightened risk of one sort or another; people do not, generally-speaking, go into medical facilities if all is well. This is certainly true for hospitals and “urgent care” facilities.

Masks cannot mitigate this risk as the virus is in aerosols and when you exhale you will thus project it into the environment if it is present. It does not matter if you use an N95 or surgical mask; an N95 will still break the seal around your face when you exhale to some extent and thus you will exhale virus if you are infected. Therefore if you work in such a facility and you took the jab, given what we now know, you are hereby obligated from now until forever into the future, until Covid and any future mutation of it is no longer of material concern, obligated to use both Ivermectin on an every 3-day basis, and Budesonide on an every day basis, both as prophylaxis. This obligation is now attached and permanent so long as you remain employed.

Since people believe that there is nothing wrong with mandating people take non-sterilizing shots to work in health care then, given that you ****ed up and are now putting people at grossly-enhanced risk there is also nothing wrong with this mandate either. Said prophylaxis is to take place on video and be recorded each day for the Budesonide and every three days for Ivermectin. If you refuse you are fired and your medical credentials are stripped. If you infect someone without documented proof that you have taken this prophylaxis as a medical worker and have been jabbed you are charged with felony assault and if they die you are charged with depraved indifference homicide, which in most jurisdictions is Murder 2. If law enforcement will not bring these charges then the relatives of said person who is impacted has every moral and ethical right to personally enforce the appropriate penalties.

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A comment at Naked Capitalism confirms it once more: it’s the vaccinated. Who are free to travel, eat indoors etc., … and free to spread the virus.

About The French Guyana Paper From The CDC (IM Doc)

This is how science – the actual process – not the Fauci version – should be working. I have repeatedly stated that I am seeing much much more vaccinated positives than one would ever have expected. As I have stated, they seem to be much sicker (though not critically so) and they tend to happen in clusters. For the past two months, this has stuck out from the dominant media narrative. I have never had to fight the cognitive dissonance between the media and my own eyeballs in my life. I belong to a large non-public alumni group of my residency program that has literally thousands of IM docs all over America. The first thing a scientist does is to confirm that your observations are general or something you are just seeing. It was quickly obvious from that group that I was far from alone despite the “minimal breakthrough cases” media narrative.

So, then you do everything you can to hypothesize reasons why you are seeing what you are. I have been a physician for 30 years and that experience plays a huge role as well. Having this gigantic number of breakthrough cases just simply does not happen. I continue to see more than half the cases in vaccinated patients and so do many others. UNHEARD OF IN VACCINES BEFORE NOW. Part of hypothesizing why is looking to the literature for evidence. Seldom is this found in RCT at this stage. Case reports and series like this paper are critical. They are seeing the same breakthrough ratio. And they have done a lot more viral research than you can. This is a gold mine for my own questions.

Is there anything in the paper that could possibly explain what I am seeing. Lots of times, it is not in the headline part but in all the test results and discussion. And yes, there is a very important finding deep in the results. Why would clustering and sicker patients be so much more common in the breakthrough patients. – there must be a reason for that? If you look at the brief discussion of cT or cycle threshold you will see that the vaccinated patients have a SIGNIFICANTLY lower cT than the unvaccinated. That is the way the PCR test works. It basically means the vaccinated have a much higher amount of viral active particles than the unvaccinated. That would account for the breakthroughs I and my colleagues are seeing being a bit more ill. And it would explain the clustering.

The vaccinated breakthroughs have much higher viral load so they are much more contagious and the higher viral load makes them more symptomatic. So we now have a suggestion and strong evidence that the vaccinated population may be spreading much more virus than the unvaccinated. I would say that is a critical public health issue and must be further researched immediately. This Certainly needs much more work. THis is not confirmatory of any conclusions. But it is consistent with observation on the ground – unlike most of what the media has been spewing to the American people. But this is how science works. This paper is about the gamma variant but a conference yesterday with experts discussed that similar findings were being found in delta and lambda.

The suggestion in this paper is now on the front of my mind. I am even now thinking of ways to confirm or falsify these conclusions going forward. This is science. Another issue. The writers make the point that the breakthrough rate is extremely divergent from the expected rate. The difference is this paper documents what is happening in REAL LIFE. So much of what we are hearing on our media about vaccine efficacy is research being done in vitro. It is presented as gospel truth. I just want to scream.

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Maybe the next big wave after Delta will make people listen to VanDen Bossche.

A Last Word of Caution (VanDen Bossche)

The current expansion in prevalence of infectious Sars-CoV-2 variants is highly problematic because it erodes natural Ab-based, variant-nonspecific immunity in the non-vaccinated part of the population. The high infectivity rate that results from this expansion not only further enhances the expansion of these variants but may also drive natural selection of viral variants that are featured by an even higher level of infectiousness. Erosion, therefore, of natural Ab-based, variant-nonspecific immunity promotes breeding and transmission of more infectious viral variants in the non-vaccinated part of the population. On the other hand, mass vaccination promotes natural selection of increasingly vaccine immunity (VI)-escaping variants in the vaccinated part of the population.

Taken together, mass vaccination conducted on a background of high infectivity rates enables more infectious, increasingly VI-escaping variants to expand in prevalence. This evolution inevitably results in inclining morbidity rates in both, the non-vaccinated and vaccinated population and precipitates the emergence of circulating viral variants that will eventually fully resist vaccine-mediated immunity (VMI). This is why mass vaccination campaigns should not be conducted during a pandemic of a highly mutable virus, let alone during a pandemic of more infectious variants (unless transmission-blocking vaccines are used!). It is critical to understand that a rapid decline in viral infectivity rates that is not achieved by natural infection but merely results from expedited mass vaccination campaigns will only delay abrupt propagation of emerging, fully vaccine-resistant viral variants and hence, only delay the occurrence of a high wave of morbidity and mortality.

In contrast, mass vaccination campaigns that are progressing more slowly, especially when conducted on a background of relatively low infectious pressure, will result in a steadily growing propagation of increasingly VI-escaping variants and hence, cause a wave of morbidity and mortality that continues to grow bigger and larger as more and more people become vaccinated. It’s only when fully vaccine-resistant viral variants will become dominant that this wave will start to peak. To prevent more detrimental consequences of the ongoing evolution of Sars-CoV-2, we have no choice but to mitigate erosion of natural, Coronavirus (CoV)-nonspecific immunity in non-vaccinated individuals and exertion of strong immune selection pressure on immunodominant vaccinal epitopes in vaccinated individuals.

This is to say that we must stop mass vaccination and lower viral infectivity rates immediately. Continued mass vaccination will only lead to a further increase in morbidity and hospitalization rates, which will subsequently culminate in a huge case fatality wave when expansion of more infectious, vaccine-resistant variants will explode.

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No kidding.

Journalists: Covid-19 News ‘Censored’ To Create ‘One Official Narrative’ (PG)

Elijah, who came up with the group’s name and found it “therapeutic” to talk to others with the same concerns, told Press Gazette: “It’s been unprecedented the way Covid-19 has been reported in the UK but not just in the UK, worldwide. “There’s only been one official narrative played out in the mainstream media and that has not changed over time. “There’s only been one ‘scientific truth’ allowed to be discussed: the one endorsed by worldwide governmental regulatory bodies, even that has been very selective. This has given the public a distorted view of the truth which has been highly damaging.” Elijah said her biggest concern was about “censorship” of information online that goes against this narrative and referred to the Trusted News Initiative, through which the BBC, other publishers and tech giants flag up the most dangerous disinformation to each other.

“For a long time, we’ve been in this dark era of censorship that’s been embodied by the Trusted News Initiative which cuts across big tech and all mainstream media,” she said. “It’s been packaged around this war on disinformation or misinformation- where anything that’s gone against the official narrative has not just been ‘fact checked’ but has been suppressed or removed.” Ex-BBC radio journalist Gosling told Press Gazette he had interviewed two doctors who shared counter-narratives – Dr Tess Lawrie of the Evidence-based Medicine Consultancy in Bath who called for early treatment to take place post-Covid diagnosis, and Florida-based immunologist Dr Stanley Laham who called for the use of ivermectin and warned against the use of the approved but “experimental” vaccines – but that both were removed from Youtube on grounds of misinformation.

Gosling said he wanted to speak out against fear-inducing and sometimes inaccurate coverage. He pointed as one example to a BBC Newsround segment last month in which a contributor claimed the Pfizer vaccine was “100% safe” for 12 to 15-year-olds. Gosling submitted a complaint about the “shocking” and “disgusting” claim and the BBC has since removed the claim from the online article and video and published a correction. Gosling said: “Our main concern is that there’s a very powerful lobby behind many of these Covid measures, including treatment, lack of treatment and vaccines, obviously, but there isn’t much of a lobby in the other direction. And I think most of us feel that our employers of various sorts have not been representing both sides.”

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“Deaths began to fall in February. After March 1 – when only 1 in 13 Americans were fully vaccinated – they plunged further. In the five months since, perhaps 80,000 people have died from (or with) Covid – fewer than died in January alone.”

Here We Go Again (Berenson)

But as I said, even putting aside the issue of how we classify the partially vaccinated, Fauci and Murthy lied about what percentage of coronavirus deaths are now occurring in FULLY vaccinated people. It is much higher than the sub-1 percent figures they offered. This fact should have been obvious to anyone who has seen the data from England, Scotland, and Israel. Those countries vaccinated a greater percentage of their populations more quickly than the United States. They have also been much more transparent about reporting hospitalizations and deaths among vaccinated people. And in all three countries, hospitalizations and deaths have spiked since May – and vaccinated people have accounted for more than HALF of all deaths recently.

The difference does not come from the type of vaccines, either. Israel used only the Pfizer vaccine, which until recently was considered the better of the two mRNA vaccines. The United Kingdom gave many Pfizer doses too. So the comments from Fauci and Murthy defied credibility – how could other countries have so many more deaths in their vaccinated populations? The answer is that Fauci and Murthy are – intentionally – using the wrong denominator. They say “now” or “are.” But they are comparing deaths among the fully vaccinated – which have essentially been an issue only since May – with ALL deaths beginning from the day the United States offered its FIRST vaccine dose (or even possibly from the beginning of the epidemic).

The United States has had roughly a quarter-million deaths from Covid this year (the CDC reports 216,000, a number that will rise somewhat). It has had closer to 300,000 since the first dose was offered on Dec. 14. But more than half those deaths occurred in December and January, when essentially no one was fully vaccinated. Not even 2 percent of Americans were fully vaccinated as of February 1. Deaths began to fall in February. After March 1 – when only 1 in 13 Americans were fully vaccinated – they plunged further. In the five months since, perhaps 80,000 people have died from (or with) Covid – fewer than died in January alone.

Vaccine advocates rarely acknowledge the fact that deaths started dropping long before most people had received shots. In reality, even acknowledging that many people who received vaccines in January and February were older and vulnerable, seasonality and herd immunity seem to have had a greater impact on broad Covid trends than vaccinations.

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But are noted as Covid admissions.

Most Covid Patients In UK Hospitals Only Tested Positive After Admission (ZH)

Over half of those hospitalized with Covid-19 in the UK only tested positive after admission – suggesting that “vast numbers are being classed as hospitalised by Covid when they were admitted with other ailments, with the virus picked up by routine testing,” according to The Telegraph, citing leaked government figures. The takeaway? Oft-cited statistics published daily may far overstate Covid hospitalizations – and consequently, pressures on the National Health Service (NHS).

“The leaked data – covering all NHS trusts in England – show that, as of last Thursday, just 44 per cent of patients classed as being hospitalised with Covid had tested positive by the time they were admitted. The majority of cases were not detected until patients underwent standard Covid tests, carried out on everyone admitted to hospital for any reason. Overall, 56 per cent of Covid hospitalisations fell into this category, the data, seen by The Telegraph, show. Crucially, this group does not distinguish between those admitted because of severe illness, later found to be caused by the virus, and those in hospital for different reasons who might otherwise never have known that they had picked it up.” -Telegraph

In June, UK health officials instructed NHS trusts to provide “a breakdown of the current stock of Covid patients” between those who were hospitalized primarily for Covid and those admitted for other reasons. Thus far, the NHS has failed to publish this now-leaked information. Breaking it down, out of more than 780 hospitalizations dated last Thursday, 44% tested positive within 14 days prior to admission, while 43% tested positive within two days of admission, and 13% tested positive ‘in the days and weeks that followed’ – including those likely to have caught the virus in the hospital. “Experts said the high number of cases being detected belatedly – at a time when PCR tests were widely available – suggested many such patients had been admitted for other reasons,” according to the report.

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Plasma.

A Long-term Perspective On Immunity To COVID (Nature)

Immunological memory is not a long-lasting version of the immediate immune reaction to a particular virus; rather, it is a distinct aspect of the immune system. In the memory phase of an immune response, B and T cells that are specific for a virus are maintained in a state of dormancy, but are poised to spring into action if they encounter the virus again or a vaccine that represents it. These memory B and T cells arise from cells activated in the initial immune reaction. The cells undergo changes to their chromosomal DNA, termed epigenetic modifications, that enable them to react rapidly to subsequent signs of infection and drive responses geared to eliminating the disease-causing agent4. B cells have a dual role in immunity: they produce antibodies that can recognize viral proteins, and they can present parts of these proteins to specific T cells or develop into plasma cells that secrete antibodies in large quantities.

About 25 years ago5, it became evident that plasma cells can become memory cells themselves, and can secrete antibodies for long-lasting protection. Memory plasma cells can be maintained for decades, if not a lifetime, in the bone marrow6. The presence in the bone marrow of long-lived, antibody-secreting memory plasma cells is probably the best available predictor of long-lasting immunity. For SARS-CoV-2, most studies so far have analysed the acute phase of the immune response, which spans a few months after infection, and have monitored T cells, B cells and secreted antibodies7. It has remained unclear whether the response generates long-lived memory plasma cells that secrete antibodies against SARS-CoV-2.

Turner and colleagues took up the challenge of identifying antibody-secreting memory plasma cells in the bone marrow of people who have recovered from COVID-19 (called convalescent individuals). Memory plasma cells are rare, and those specific for a particular disease-causing agent will obviously be extremely scarce. Nevertheless, Turner and colleagues detected memory plasma cells that secreted antibodies specific for the spike protein encoded by SARS-CoV-2 in 15 of 19 individuals, approximately 7 months after infection. Notably, when the authors obtained samples 4 months later (11 months after SARS-CoV-2 infection), the number of such plasma cells had remained stable in all but one of the individuals analysed. Those plasma cells did not proliferate, which classifies them as bona fide memory plasma cells. Their numbers equalled those of memory plasma cells found in the individuals after vaccination against tetanus or diphtheria, and which provide long-term immunity to those diseases.

When Turner et al. tracked the concentrations of antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 in the individuals’ blood serum for up to one year, they observed a biphasic pattern (Fig. 1). In the acute immune response around the time of initial infection, antibody concentrations were high. They subsequently declined, as expected, because most of the plasma cells of an acute immune response are short-lived. After a few months, the antibody concentrations levelled off and remained more or less constant at roughly 10–20% of the maximum concentration observed. This is consistent with the expectation that 10–20% of the plasma cells in an acute immune reaction become memory plasma cells5, and is a clear indication of a shift from antibody production by short-lived plasma cells to antibody production by memory plasma cells. This is not unexpected, given that immune memory to many viruses and vaccines is stable over decades, if not for a lifetime8.

Figure 1 | The immune response to SARS-CoV-2 infection. Data are becoming available that shed light on longer-term aspects of the human immune response to coronavirus infection. One component of the defence response is the production of antibodies that target viral proteins (red line). During the initial, acute phase of the immune response, antibody levels peak rapidly; this peak is generated by short-lived immune cells called plasma cells. Turner et al.1 present clinical evidence, from people who have had COVID-19, that long-lived, memory plasma cells that produce antibodies are generated in the bone marrow. These cells provide long-term antibody production that offers stable protection at a level of 10–20% of that during the acute phase (blue line). Memory plasma cells are a cell type that can be maintained for many years, if not a lifetime. Wang et al.2 have characterized antibody responses at between six months and a year in people who have been infected with SARS-CoV-2; their results also provide evidence for the generation of immunological memory.

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Where finance and Covid meet. These guys are good at spotting trends.

Decline In UK COVID Cases Signals Coming “Inflection” For US (ZH)

Just one week ago, as Dr. Anthony Fauci was cranking the Delta variant “fearmongering” up to 11 once again, JPM’s Croatian quant Marko Kolanovic was telling the bank’s clients that a looming inflection point for new cases in the UK (widely seen as a leading indicator for the direction of new cases in the US) would soon arrive, kick-starting demand for value stocks and reopening plays. Although Kolanovic is a Wall Street quant, not an epidemiologist, it turns out his view was correct. Because one week later, the number of new cases being confirmed in the UK and EU has fallen, even as the UK’s “Freedom Day” has come and gone. Deutsche Bank’s Jim Reid described the decline in new cases in the UK “nothing short of remarkable”.

According to Reuters data, the number of new cases fell for a sixth consecutive day, to 24,950 on Monday from 29,173 on Sunday. The total number of new cases over the past week, at just over a quarter of a million, is more than 20% lower than the prior week. While the UK’s economy-crippling “pingdemic” continues, and many have continued to isolate, meaning the UK is still a way’s away from achieving a return to “normality”. Additionally, despite the fast rise of cases to near peak levels, mortality is currently 95% lower than during the January peak. This should give confidence to investors that delta is not a serious threat to global growth. If the US follows the template of the UK, daily cases might be peaking in the next 12 days…while we think Energy-Epicenter stocks are going to start to rally beginning this week.

While the Delta variant continues to dominate “our discussions with clients,” Kolanovic claimed that fears about the variant are overblown. The UK, he added, appears to be following a timeline similar to what the world saw in India. This should give confidence to investors that Delta isn’t a serious threat to global growth. Well, that and the drop in mortality. Speaking of markets, Kolanovic suggested that this is the start of a rotation into cyclicals. Some might be tempted to attribute the drop in UK cases to a fluke, or the pingdemic, or some other factor. But as Kolanovic reminds us, the trajectory of India’s recent COVID flareup (the first national outbreak to be caused by the delta variant) was similarly swift, as JPM illustrates with a handy chart.

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Censorship is everywhere. Because it offers total control.

In a Hall of Mirrors You Have To Break Some Glass To See Clearly (Kunstler)

I’ll tell you what’s really funny: the new Sam Harris “Making Sense” podcast with Dr. Eric Topol, veep of Scripps Research. These two just can’t make sense of why the folks outside their Southern California smuggery bubble have any reservations about getting vaxed-up against Covid-19. It’s like a mental illness to them — all these selfish, Trump-driven, flag-smooching ignoramuses beyond the pale of Wokery, who are putting at risk their science-loving betters in the PhD hives of the New Normal, while that King Kong of Covid variants (code-name Delta) rages through the hillsides and canyons beneath Mulholland Drive. The insolence! Can’t these morons just follow simple instructions (available 24/7 at CNN)?

Okay, here’s why, Sam and Eric: Because every institution in American life has squandered its credibility in the service of a political program that seeks to destroy whatever used to be worth caring about in Western Civ, including free thought, free speech, free inquiry, free movement, truth, beauty, and the right to resist official coercion. Half the country has no trust in the government’s public health apparatus, led by the — shall we say — slippery Dr. Anthony Fauci. Should they believe NPR? The New York Times? CBS-News? Should they follow every bob and judder of Rachel Maddow’s Adam’s apple? Should they swallow every globule of obvious horse-shit served up by Jen Psaki?

Hey Sam and Eric, have you followed what went on in the US Department of Justice and the FBI the past five years, these supposed redoubts of rectitude? The manufactured “Russian Collusion” hoax? The official lying to FISA courts? The malicious prosecutions? The transparently seditious activities of CIA agent Eric Ciaramella & Co.? The hiding of Hunter Biden’s evidence-stuffed laptop? The enlistment of Facebook, Twitter, and Google in suppression of the news and censorship of opinion? Do you expect people to believe that the basement-haunting “Joe Biden” won an election with those slim victories in the Wokester-controlled, fraud-drenched city precincts of Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, and Detroit? Or that Merrick Garland and Christopher Wray wouldn’t lie about it?

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Pelosi helping Putin ridicule America.

The Jan. 6th Show Trials Threaten All of Us (Ron Paul)

The recent felony conviction and eight month prison sentence of January 6th protester Paul Hodgkins is an affront to any notion of justice. It is a political charge and a political verdict by a political court. Every American regardless of political persuasion should be terrified of a court system so beholden to politics instead of justice. We’ve seen this movie before and it does not end well. Worse than this miscarriage of justice is the despicable attempt by the prosecutor in the case to label Hodgkins – who has no criminal record and was accused of no violent crime – a “terrorist.” As journalist Michael Tracey recently wrote, Special Assistant US Attorney Mona Sedky declared Hodgkins a “terrorist” in the court proceedings not for committing any terrorist act, not for any act of violence, not even for imagining a terrorist act.

Sedky wrote in her sentencing memo, “The Government … recognizes that Hodgkins did not personally engage in or espouse violence or property destruction.” She added, “we concede that Mr. Hodgkins is not under the legal definition a domestic terrorist.” Yet Hodgkins should be considered a terrorist because the actions he took – entering the Senate to take a photo of himself – occurred during an event that the court is “framing…in the context of terrorism.” That goes beyond a slippery slope. He is not a terrorist because he committed a terrorist act, but because somehow the “context” of his actions was, in her words, “imperiling democracy.” In other words, Hodgkins deserved enhanced punishment because he committed a thought crime.

The judge on the case, Randolph D. Moss, admitted as much. In carrying a Trump flag into the Senate, he said, Hodgkins was, “declaring his loyalty to a single individual over the nation.” As Tracey pointed out, while eight months in prison is a ridiculously long sentence for standing on the floor of the “People’s House” and taking a photograph, it is also a ridiculously short sentence for a terrorist. If Hodgkins is really a terrorist, shouldn’t he be sent away for longer than eight months?

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    @John Day: “We are engaging more deeply. It’s work that seems worth doing, … now.”

    Agreed. 100%

    I can’t say as I dislike anyone who posts here. How does one dislike a person they’ve never met based on some comments made on a relatively narrow field of topics? People have many facets and it can take a long time to get to know more than just a slice of a person. John Day is probably the person on here that we *know* most fully, although WES shares of himself freely as well. 🙂

    I’ve clashed with Veracious a couple times, but his willingness to share deeply personal experiences is admirable and much appreciated. How could I dislike that?

    I’ve clashed with Dr D at times as well, but I get a lot from his rants since they’re thought provoking and often humorous. How could I dislike that?

    madam/bosco: I knew Madam wasn’t a male. She spent too much time pointing out she was female. We actual females don’t do that because we already know we are female and don’t care if others know it or not. I’m offering this as what I hope will be taken as helpful feedback since you’re writing a book. “Show don’t tell” as they say. 😉

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    Whoops!! @Madam: I knew madam wasn’t a FEMALE. Jeepers. Sloppy sloppy sloppy.

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    Oroboros
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    I firmly maintain that the data from the Plandemic is being collected in detail but NOT shared either with the public or medical journals or even with the Presstitutes.

    The surveillance infrastructure to collect this kind of data has been building for years, just read Assange or Snowden.

    Utility bills, grocery bills even your music tastes on Pandora or Spotify.

    All of it, tracked in excruciating detail.

    The fact that it seems hard to get ‘good’ numbers from VAERS or whatever doesn’t mean it’s not being collected and stored 24/7.

    So assuming that the Real Plandemic Data is being noted, sorted and analyzed and is very valuable for the Overlord Overview POV, let’s spitball a bit and pretend that the Drug Overlords actually want and actually did plan for control groups

    Control groups reveal a lot about any experiment, even a global one like the Covid Plandemic.

    Control groups could be numerous things but the first is a group who thinks they got The Full Monty but in fact got nothingburger ‘saline’ shots.

    You want fancier?

    How about a control group with a 1/2 dose, a 1/4 dose or 2X or 3X times the ‘normal’ dose.

    How about one police force and fire dept with a full, and another one with saline.

    See how they perform their jobs.

    One hospital staff with, one without etc…….

    A with and without in Air Traffic Control, or pilots or even better military pilots.

    The mind races.

    And as an aside, almost twice as many Democrats as Republicans got fully ‘vaccinated’.

    There’s a political control group experiment going on too.

    DO NOT FOLD, SPINDLE or MUTILATE

    .

    #81130
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “And as an aside, almost twice as many Democrats as Republicans got fully ‘vaccinated’.”

    Actually that is something that’s been on my mind lately. How did you come up with that number? I’d actually be interested to find out with regards to VAERS and deaths and other info on those people.

    #81133
    Oroboros
    Participant

    DuckDuck “percentage of democrats vs Republician vaccinated”

    A plethora of hits will ensue. Average them out. Roughly 2 to 1

    #81134
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Just about everyone i know who has been jabbed votes D and all haven’t had a single issue. Only person i know who Votes R that was jabbed had serious flu like symptoms for a few days.

    #81135
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Also remember, the credit for and origin of the ‘vaccine’ came under Trump.

    Biden had nothing to do with the development or roll out, he just mumbled, waved his hands around and rubber stamped the Trump ‘vaccine’ agenda.

    Old White Joe wouldn’t know the vaccine from Valvoline.

    So if the Jab-apocalypse materializes later this year and mRNA Satan Spike Proteins kill a large swath of ‘vaccinated’ Democrats, the Presstitutes will blame Trump!

    How ironic is that.

    #81136
    John Day
    Participant

    @Mr. House: I read the Lock Step article from March 2020. Much of it holds up decently to events since then, but it missed pretty big on the plandemic petering out quickly.

    #81137
    Oroboros
    Participant

    You could also create a control (with vs without jab) based on ZIP CODES.

    Zip Codes are even more interesting parameters than counties.

    Zip Codes really separate the wheat from the chaff

    #81138
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @JohnDay

    Yes that also raised an eyebrow when i read it. But then again, did any of us expect that this would still be going on over a year later? Most of us were just trying to sort thru the data and try to make sense of what we were being told.

    #81139
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ Mr. House


    The clot shot cull seems well timed as a means to implement what economists call demand destruction on a large scale, as large as possible, having the effect of giving survivors — particularly those who actively reject the injections, since they still have survival instincts and facility for rational thought, problem solving and real leadership — a better fighting chance to surmount the greater hardship to come

    This corresponds to my view at the moment and working hard to establish my place for survival

    #81140
    John Day
    Participant

    Here is a statistical analysis of the flag for adverse vaccine events, which is used by the VAERS/CDC. It appears to completely bury, rather that flag-for-attention vaccine adverse events.
    Go figure, eh?

    “If my understanding of this situation is correct, the mass vaccination program should be immediately halted until the safety data is gathered, cleaned, and examined. We cannot tolerate a misleading statement of “vaccines are safe and effective” in the face of regulatory agencies defining away the responsibility of performing the risk analysis needed to verify safety. The CDC leadership should be immediately replaced and investigated, and independent analysts should reformulate the task of tracking vaccine safety results.”
    https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/defining-away-vaccine-safety-signals

    #81141
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @Michael Reid

    Well with almost half the pop fully jabbed that deagel forecast population reduction in the US makes more sense. If that is the plan, whatever the plan is, based on the stats the drive to force this on everyone makes no sense.

    #81142
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @JohnDay

    Very interesting article, wonder if they’re not updating as some form of damage control now? Agree with this 110%

    “At some point, when the potential for conflicts of interest are high and the point of failure is fundamental to the task of those doing the job, incompetence should no longer be differentiated from criminal intent.”

    #81144
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks Upstate NYer. If I knew you were a girl, I forgot. I like you even better, ’cause like Robin Morrison I feel pretty groovy around girls.
    🙂

    #81147
    Oroboros
    Participant

    I think I heard Dr Fleming say the other day that a VAERS report needs a specific ‘code’ for a specific medical event, i.e. measles has it’s own code, flu, diphtheria etc….

    There is no code on VAERS for the current crop of ‘vaccines’, so any ‘adverse effect’ from them cannot be reported.

    I would say that’s pretty clear evidence of tampering with the reporting system.

    Almost like rigging an election.

    Hmmm…..

    #81149
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Amazing how the censorship has become so blatantly Orwellian.

    I guess most ‘adults’ alive today never read Orwell in their dumbdown idiocracy school years.

    Wikipedia Co-Founder Larry Sanger Tells Tucker Carlson He Is ‘Embarrassed’ by Site He Created

    Larry Sanger

    Interest how Wikibiaspedia ‘remove’ Dr Malone as discoverer of RNA transfection and mRNA vaccines.

    Does this mean they could remove Einstein as the source of the Special Relativity?

    Wikibiaspedia can now ‘cancel’ anyone as the inventor of anything.

    Total Control like a Super Hero!

    Inventor of mRNA technology removed from Wikipedia after he warned against taking COVID jabs

    “Information about the inventor of the mRNA technology used in certain COVID-19 vaccines was removed from the online encyclopedia site Wikipedia after he publicly warned against giving the experimental gene therapy vaccines to young people and that there was insufficient information about the injections to give informed consent.

    Dr. Robert Malone, M.D., M.S., discovered RNA transfection and, while he was at the Salk Institute in San Diego in 1988, invented mRNA vaccines. His research was continued the next year at Vical, and between 1988 and 1989, Malone wrote the patent disclosures for mRNA vaccines….”

    #81151
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @John Day: yeah, I’m a girl. 😉 Glad that makes you feel pretty groovy. lol.

    Hey … I visit your blog and would comment there, but to do so it tells me to login through google (I have a junk gmail account I use for junk emails). I’d be happy to login through gmail if my personal info isn’t published, but I can’t tell? Let me know how it works and I’ll ping you on your blog.

    #81152
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Oros: “I firmly maintain that the data from the Plandemic is being collected in detail …”

    They certainly may be collecting detailed data, but I firmly maintain they are not capable of collating, evaluating, and reaching conclusions from said data that can accurately inform their future decisions and actions. They are simply too stupid and incompetent. And, no, madamski did not tell me to say that. 😉

    Good golly, look at the abject stupidity and incompetence at all levels of government, the obvious mental illness projected by Gates, et al, and … sorry, but this Schwab guy? Seriously??

    They CANNOT win this. They are too dumb and have far too much hubris. Yes, they have money and power, but that is not what wins in the end.

    Stay resilient, stay strong, hold the line. (that last bit was in support of those of us who are unemployed or will be unemployed in the near future due to the vaxx)

    You guys, they’re too dumb. The stress right now is unreal, but don’t buy into the “all powerful” narrative. It ain’t all that. We got this. Trust me.

    #81153
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    I’ve only read Karl D for a short while and likely won’t for much longer, but he posted one comment I’m sharing here because I believe it’s important …

    “Contrary to popular belief and political spin you have all the power, all the time and there’s not jack and **** that can be done about it if even a tiny percentage of the population simply stands up and says “NO!”

    Well, yeah … that. That’s what I’m trying to say. Money + [perceived] power = 0

    #81157
    zerosum
    Participant

    Let see if I got this right.

    In the USA, Most people who have certain conditions will get covid and die more than other people.

    Some of those conditions are old age, obese, overweight, diabetic, heart condition, blood clots poor immune system. etc. (over 60% of people have conditions)

    People with those conditions will also get “vaccine breakthrough” and die more than other grouping of people.

    In many places those that have been vaccinated is over 60%
    In most age grouping those that have been vaccinated is over 60%

    Therefore, herd immunity will be reached AFTER 60% of the people have died

    A 80+ year old friend just told me that his 55 year old son died, unexpectedly, in hospital, of a heart attack.
    I did not ask if his son had his 2 vaccines. I suspect that he had the vaccine due to the kind of work that he did.

    #81160
    russellnblbs
    Participant

    Are we falling into the same trap as the true believers by buying into the mass die off thing? I think it should always be kept in mind that in our collective mythical western psych very often we think of the future as either utopia or apocalypse. I’m starting to worry the VDB might be a mole. If there are people out there yelling everyone is going to die, and then it doesn’t happen, it will discredit more than just the die off narrative. I just think that the unpredictable nature of fiddling with complex systems means that even if the shots were meant to do large scale damage they will behave in unexpected ways, just as if they were meant to be beneficial.

    Is it just a case of collective insanity? Another feature of our myth is that we ride to the rescue of our issues with a new technological invention. Orlov made a funny point about how when the US went into space they spent a heap of money inventing pens that could operate in zero gravity, while the Russians just took pencils. The narrative about renewable energy tech is of the same bent. I dunno. No doubt there could be a plan afoot but what would a history looking back 500 years in the future say of this time?

    #81161
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @russel: “I’m starting to worry the VDB might be a mole.”

    Sorry, long day. What does VDB stand for?

    #81162
    WES
    Participant

    Here is what surprises me. We seem to be hearing nothing from the life insurance companies about the surge in break through deaths due to the vaccines. Maybe the insurance companies are being secretly compensated by the government? Maybe they have been told to keep their mouths shut? Things just can not be business as usual for the insurance companies. Especially on the long term disabilities side.

    #81163
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “I’m offering this as what I hope will be taken as helpful feedback since you’re writing a book. “Show don’t tell” as they say.”

    It was fun, but I’d make an unconvincing drag queen.

    Ms. Jones

    drag

    Lord help us all.

    This too, is me in drag, but of opposite polarity.

    drag1

    Thanx for all the love, y’allz.

    I’ll drop in if I find something worth sharing about TEOTWAWKI, otherwise, I think I’ll dress in lurker drag for awhile.

    #81164
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “What does VDB stand for?”

    Van Den Bossche?

    #81166
    zerosum
    Participant

    Lets see if I got this other thing right

    “Pandemic of the unvacinated”

    Survivors of covid are going to have natural immunity and be part of the “herd immunity” survivors.

    Vaccinate people will get “breakthrough covid”.

    #81167
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Today’s Pravda from the comrades at KTLA:

    COVID-19 cases and deaths increased after states ended eviction bans: UCLA-led study

    California State University to require COVID vaccinations for students, faculty, staff on campus this fall

    Gotta keep pumping the fear pron to keep the sheep jumping those hoops…

    The assumption that our “owners” (per Carlin, George) realize that “we” are going over the Seneca’s Cliff of cheap-energy-good-ores-and-aquifers, and are frantic to have at least half of us die pretty quick really simplifies the interpretation of events.

    I have been a fellow traveler with many sections of Americana during my life, towards the end I was immersed with the “owners”, aka power elite, who I call the amerikan aristocracy…

    My working experiences with the tittle-tattle thyestean media, the rapacious rich, the hivemind central party bureaucrats & the erroneously empowered aparachtiks enlightened me to certain truths about the “owners”, their vassals & “enforcers”:

    For the most part, they are a tribal clique of selfish EGO based children seeking power over others + an obsession with looting society-at-large to feed a ravenous selfishness, coupled with an underlying terror of being exposed as the defective frauds they are, full of skulduggery & duplicity…

    They all despise the “little people”, who they would vote to cull if given the chance, indeed most just want to see it all burn, excluding of course their beloved fiefdoms of “special people”.

    IF the majority of adults in the USofA actually knew these people on a personal basis, there would be a revulsion of epic proportions, no doubt, but alas We the Sheeple are to busy with crippling character defects & petty endeavors to even imagine the betrayal of their “betters”…

    What’s happening was scripted decades ago (Operation Lock Step, etc.).

    Back when I was active in the patriot movement I received a couple of an Army civilian inmate work camp proposal/plan that 1992-1993 CONgress had requested that became what is now known as FEMA camps (I googled for it, but of course there was no trace) ~ this is the closest I could find (Although there was a part in the original plan about rounding up civilians during an “emergency” & forcing them into bivouacs for .gov purposes):

    https://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/pdf/mil_pol_operations.pdf

    Indeed, the “owners” have been pushing the tyranny envelope for quite awhile now (MK Ultra, CIA LSD experiments on unsuspecting civilians, irradiating communities without warning or announcement & now forcing killswitch immunizations, massive transfers of national treasury funds, et al.), I’m actually surprised that it’s not really BAD yet, let’s hope & pray that enough awaken frm their self-induced trances to realize there’s a game afoot 😉

    #81168
    absolute galore
    Participant

    I agree wholeheartedly with UpstateNYer. Nobody is switching vials or giving saline or taking notes. Switching the drug based on zip codes? Right–in the first months people were driving 4 counties over to get jabbed.

    A vast, coordinated plandemic is not within the capabilities of a single country’s government, never mind a globally orchestrated depopulation. The only thing speculation like that does is taint all the real reasons that vaccinations should not be forced.

    It’s all about the stupidity, incompetence, greed, cowardice, fecklessness, immorality, and bad breath of the various crats– bureaucrats, plutocrats, aristocrats technocrats, autocrats, democrats–the CratRat Pack.

    Here are a few opinion pieces from The Hill. The overarching theme is the blatant contradictions from paragraph to paragraph. It seems laughable, the religious zealotry being portrayed as science. But the anti anti-vaxxers vitriol is increasing at an alarming rate.

    This one makes the most “sense” but it’s an extremely low bar (and of course it’s pro-vax):
    Want to improve vaccine rates? Ask for this endorsement
    Save the kids! By doing stuff proven to do nothing! Which I mostly admit in this ridiculous opinion piece I’ve written!
    Masks and vaccines: What would you do to save a child?
    Here’s the scary one:
    It’s time we had ‘safe havens’ for vaccinated Americans

    If you are really down the conspiracy hole, you will tell yourself that this illogic is meant to confuse us and make us insane, and “these people” are actually super smart and know exactly what they are doing. Be my guest. I vote simple: stupid.

    But there is an underlying dynamic. The need for the technocracy to exert more and more control becomes greater as energy inputs start to decline. It’s happening at mostly an unconscious level right now. Or, if you follow D. Orlov, the technosphere itself is an organism of sorts.

    #81169
    russellnblbs
    Participant

    Madamski and upstate yeah van den bossche. I dunno I understand his argument but I think it’s risky to push it too hard in case it backfires and it all fizzles out, they change the test and covid miraculously disappears and the ‘Vaccines saved the day’ narrative is pumped endlessly opening the door for more and more experimental shots for different maladies.

    #81170
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @Wes

    Catherine Austin Fitts made an interesting comment the other day about the Fed and the Treasury having the ability now to print seemly unlimited amounts of ‘money’.

    She said that at least in the short to mid term, they could buy off almost Anybody.

    Just the Pentagon alone has a 7 Trillion dollars+ of unaccountedfor funds.

    That could buy off a lot of judges, and researchers, and politicians and media producers and teachers and professors and doctors and economists, etc……

    Use your imagination about who would take the money and shut their mouths about the Plandemic.

    90% of the population? 95%? 99%?

    A very small number of people are challenging the Plandemic.

    Most will have their careers destroyed or canceled or marginalized.

    Look at someone like Dr. Peter McCullough. Incredible credentials and still cut off major media platforms.

    No amount of experience or expertise or credentials seems to matter.

    The media is bought off.
    The politicians are bought off.
    The medical establishment is bought off.
    The courts are bought off.
    The military is bought off.
    The insurance companies are bought off.
    The police are bought off.
    The Tech platforms are bought off.

    People like Reiner Fuellmich and Dr David Martin can speak up because they are financially secure. Most people aren’t, and many live pay check to pay check and can’t rock the boat, they have families to consider.

    If the financial system or the dollar collapses, well then maybe there won’t be any ‘money’ with which to Buy Off everyone.

    But a financial system or the dollar collapse will be a nightmare all it’s own.

    Revolutions are started by the professional class that is denied entry into the upper echelons of the societal power structure, NOT by the poor or working class or middle class.

    Robespierre was a lawyer and his fellow travelers were highly educated ambitious social climbers.

    Their aspirations were dashed by the Over Lords and they acted like jilted lovers towards the aristocrats.

    Reiner Fuellmich and Dr David Martin don’t have any traction in court yet but short of armed insurrection, the courts are the last hope.

    Do you want things to get so bad that you need a Napoleon to straighten it out?

    How are you going to bring these monsters to bay?

    As we said as children in the schoolyard, “you and whose army are going to make them stop?”

    #81171
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Veracious: thank you for more insights. About this: “I’m actually surprised that it’s not really BAD yet, let’s hope & pray that enough awaken frm their self-induced trances to realize there’s a game afoot”

    A lot of us didn’t fully or even partially enter the trance. We are here and will continue to be here. Ya shoulda spent more time with us instead of the power-mad a-holes. 😉

    @russell: VDB = Van den Bossche. Thank you for the clarification. Doesn’t matter which *side* the rabbit is on or what hole it goes down. VDB may have a valid argument, he may not. Doesn’t make sense to get wrapped up in one person’s soap box pitch. Time will tell.

    @absolute: “If you are really down the conspiracy hole, you will tell yourself that this illogic is meant to confuse us and make us insane, and “these people” are actually super smart and know exactly what they are doing. Be my guest. I vote simple: stupid.”

    Errr … yup.

    #81172
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @upstateny

    I’m not saying the Overlords are ‘all powerful’.

    Look at history, many ‘all powerful’ looking political Cults fell quite quickly.

    After they caused unspeakable damage to their people.

    No one wins forever.

    Sure these monsters shall fall….someday….after doing enormous damage..someday……………………..

    They don’t have to be ‘all knowing’ to hold on to power for a long time and do frightening amount of terror.

    Or at least as long as the money flows their way.

    They rigged an election and installed a demented sock puppet in your face

    That’s not resolved.

    All the courts including the Supremes blew it off and refused to hear it.

    I guess they were smart enough to pull that off.

    And RussiaRussiaRussia

    And lock up Assange

    And buy off the entire media apparatus of the entire country.

    They’re not that stupid.

    Look what they’ve already done.

    And they’re just warming up.

    #81173
    russellnblbs
    Participant

    @ orboros good points but I think the comp is off. Revolutions happen in periods of growth which is certainly not what we are in. A better comp for us is the decline of the Roman Empire or the Soviet Union. Basically the elite get more and more removed from reality that they end up in an delusional enclave while everyone else moves on and gets down to the work of surviving or they join up with barbarians or get killed in sporadic outbursts of violence. The salaried class of today are the delusional elite and as you say they are easily bought off but there is less and less of them every day. As the system jettisons them they get more and more hysterical and will bend over backwards to maintain membership in the group (see covid shots). Look at india to get a better grasp of the actual global outlook. An ancient country and culture just looked at covid and shrugged it off its gigantic shoulders. Same with a lot of Asian countries because they are big and poor they don’t care as much. I remember being blown away in Vietnam by the level of self sufficiency and ingenuity of the average person and was embarrassed at how hopeless we are in the west.

    #81174
    HerrWerner
    Participant

    madamski’s comment reminded me of what Moe Sizlack thought of Homer:
    “I’m more of a well-wisher. Meaning that I don’t wish you any specific harm.”
    😀

    #81175
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @russellnblbs

    I agree about the salaried class being thrown under the bus now at increasing speed. I can’t remember the term but it’s something like ‘a surplus of elites’. The children of one generation of ‘elites’ who all went to the ‘right elite schools’ and rubbed butts & noses with the ‘right connect class’ assumed they too would slide into posh low stress careers and kick back for their entitled rewards.

    When that particular murder of crows don’t get their destiny on a silver tray, they lose their shite.

    The old Western tradition gives everything to the oldest son so fortunes can accumulate and financial mojo isn’t diluted between siblings.

    Siblings in that system don’t have inflated expectations of excess privilege.

    Interestingly Islam divides inheritance equally between siblings as a moral imperative.

    The modern want-ta-bes didn’t get daddy and mommy to give everything to the eldest child so the divided inheritance produces ‘a surplus of elites’ who need privileged careers.

    An angry spoiled, enraged surplus of elites they are.

    And in a blind rage they will drive the bus off the cliff.

    #81176
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @russellnblbs

    I went to a public school that believed even the ‘smart kids’ destined for the white collars Ivy league track still had to take shop class and learn how to use a saw, build a bird house and change a tire and spark plugs on a car.

    Today most kids don’t know which end of a paint brush to pick up! ;>)

    #81177
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @russell: thank you. You did WAY better with your response to @oros than I could have. 🙂

    About this part of the oros post, “Just the Pentagon alone has a 7 Trillion dollars+ of unaccounted for funds … That could buy off a lot of judges, and researchers, and politicians and media producers and teachers and professors and doctors and economists, etc……”

    This has gotten so ludicrous and so far beyond believable it doesn’t merit a made-for-TV Sunday afternoon movie. “Money” (the proxy for wealth) has ceased to exist in any form that we can recognize in the real world. It’s a bunch of 1s and 0s on a computer screen. Doesn’t matter whether it’s dollars, yuan, yen, bitcoin, whatever. It doesn’t mean anything.

    We can buy into the 1s and 0s or we can choose to think and live along a different path.

    And as far as oros saying … “they’re just warming up”

    No, they’re failing. That’s why it’s gotten as bad as it has. Will we all make it? No. I’m working on fighting for my young family members now. Best I can do.

    #81178
    John Day
    Participant

    @Veracious Poet: Sorry for the misspelling, Sir or Madam. It was based upon repetitive word mis-recognition, speed-misreading. Also thanks for insights into fellow-traveling in private-jet-class.

    @Upstate NYer: Gawrsh, Ma’am…


    @Robin
    Madamski: It was nice to see Joe Namath and Flip Wilson/ “Geraldine” again 🙂

    @Russelnblbs: I agree with not falling for either optimistic or doomsday I-don’t-have-to-do-anythingism.
    This is different, as I see it. Sussing out the mass-culling plans of our “owners” has gotta’ be a good thing going forward, and I’m all about taking what initiative I can today, to beta test my concepts about growing vegetables and being useful to others. I’ve got bicycling down pretty well.

    #81179
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Also, @russell: “The salaried class of today are the delusional elite and as you say they are easily bought off but there is less and less of them every day.”

    Yup. Along the lines of the comment I posted earlier today. The collapse is happening, moving ever inward. More and more parts of the population are engulfed. What’s that saying I remember from church services as a child? Oh, right … “as it was and ever shall be, world without end.” 😉

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