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Vincent van Gogh Pollard Willows and Setting Sun 1888

 

 

I have the feeling that the story about Covid and the vaccines is about to change dramatically, but that it will take some time for us to realize it, because so much on the topic is not reported. The change will have to be undeniable before it is acknowledged.

That is, we will be moving from “the vaccines will save you” to “the vaccines may kill you”. And I don’t mean through unintentional and unfortunate adverse effects, though those are bad enough, and much more common than we are “allowed” to know. I mean that the spike proteins the vaccines force your cells to make, kill more people than the virus they purportedly protect against.

Maybe I’m a bit early, not just because this would go against the overwhelming narrative grain, but also because the process itself that will lead to this, is not yet advanced enough. But perhaps that would merely mean an early warning.

I’m not a fan of what is called “the vaccines” as we presently know them. They have been too poorly researched and too poorly tested, and therefore too risky to inoculate 100s of millions of people with. Which is why they were never approved, at least that part of the process had not been politicized yet.

Well, not fully. They did get emergency authorizations, for which other substances, that could have saved countless lives, needed to be banned and ostracized. But in the end it all comes down to what the “vaccines” accomplish over the medium- to long term, and that is exactly the part that was never tested.

Have the “vaccines” saved (m)any lives to date? It’s hard to say, they were rolled out when spring came in the northern hemisphere, a time when a year before infections plummeted. That they are skyrocketing now, in the middle of summer, may thus be a very bad sign. We won’t know until summer’s over. But there are a few things we can point to.

As an aside, the Greek PM and President have both claimed that their constitution requires people to get vaccinated. Why haven’t we heard that from other countries yet? Sacrificing your Constitution on the altar of a virus is quite the step, sacrificing your children on that same altar (see in many countries) is possible worse. Issuing an emergency authorization to inoculate children, who run a much higher risk from the vaccine than from the virus, let’s just hope that’s the worst thing that we see come out of this. The kids are at risk for the rest of their lives, it doesn’t get much worse.

Talking of presidents, Joe Biden is on record telling Americans “you can’t get covid if you have a vaccine.’ (but still wear a mask, Joe?) As the infections among fully vaccinated people keep piling up. We call that a lie. Biden also said the Delta variant is both more transmissible AND more deadly. That, too, is a lie. Is it any wonder that people are vaccine hesitant when their president lies about it to them?

Let’s go to case exhibit one: India. Where officially 3% of people have been vaccinated, but the Delta variant has been conquered.

 

Data From India Continues To Blow Up The ‘Delta’ Fear Narrative

The prevailing narrative from Fauci, Walensky, and company is that Delta is more serious than anything before, and even though vaccines are even less effective against it, its spread proves the need to vaccinate even more people. Unless we do that, we must return to the very effective lockdowns and masks. In reality, India’s experience proves the opposite true; namely:

• Delta is largely an attenuated version, with a much lower fatality rate, that for most people is akin to a cold. • Masks failed to stop the spread there. • The country has come close to the herd immunity threshold with just 3% vaccinated. • Most people are now getting cold-like symptoms from Delta, but to the extent countries hit by Delta suffered some deaths and serious illness, they could have been avoided not with vaccines and masks, but with early and preventive treatment like ivermectin.

In other words, our government is learning all the wrong lessons from India, and now Israel and the U.K. Let’s unpack what we know occurred in India and now in some of the other countries experiencing a surge in cases of the Indian “Delta” variant. The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) recently conducted a fourth nationwide serological test and found that 67.6% of those over 6 years old in June and July had antibodies, including 85% of health care workers.

This is a sharp increase from the 24.1% level detected during the December-January study. What we can conclude definitively is that strict mask-wearing (especially among health care workers) failed to stop the spread one bit. Yet now they have achieved herd immunity and burned out the virus with just 3% vaccination (now up to 6%) with roughly one-sixth the death rate of the U.S. and the U.K. and less than one-half that of Israel.

Here are the graphs. Remember, Delta is supposed to have come from India. Perhaps that explains the spike in May, but it burned out pretty quickly. Without vaccines, or almost. What is the lesson we can draw from that? Well, certainly not that it will kill us all unless we get vaccinated.


 

 

Case exhibit number two: Israel. Lots of vaccinations, but also many infections. A 30x rise in infections over the past month while vaccinations were at full speed.

 

Israel Finds Pfizer Jab Only 39% Effective At Stopping Delta Variant

Over the past month, Israel, the world’s most heavily vaccinated country (with leading mRNA jabs, no less) has seen the number of positive COVID tests has risen by more than 30x as the number of active infections in the country has surpassed 10K. Meanwhile, the Israeli Health Ministry, which has previously estimated the true efficacy of the Pfizer jab against the delta variant at only 64% (while still more than 90% effective at preventing serious illness and death), just released new data purporting to show that while the Pfizer jab is still 88% effective at preventing serious illness, it’s only 39% effective at preventing infection with delta.

Alex Berenson, a former NYT journalist who has often reported on scientific findings that don’t support the official narrative on masks and vaccines, shared the findings in a tweet, and speculated that the true efficacy in offering protection against the Delta variant might be even lower – perhaps as low as 30%.

[..] The Israeli numbers are much lower than other recent studies, including one study recently published in the New England Journal of Medicine, which found that two doses offers 88% protection against the Delta variant causing symptomatic disease, while offering 94% protection against the alpha variant.

People say: of course more vaccinated people will show up infected, there are only vaccinated people left. But first, look at the right hand (blue) column for vaccine efficacy. 3-4%, that’s all. And then look at the numbers of infection of vaccinated vs unvaccinated, knowing that perhaps 65% have been fully vaccinated (and 35% not).

If new infections were divided between the two groups along the same ratio (2:1), we should see that. Instead, we see a 6:1 ratio, 1426 vs 251. 6 times more vaccinated people get infected. What do we make of that? I know what I make of it; as I said above: “the vaccines may kill you”.

But at least those fully vaccinated will get less sick, you say. Well, this Israeli source casts doubts on that ubiquitous claim:

 

Israel Reports Sharp Decline In Pfizer Coronavirus Vaccine Efficacy

Israel on Tuesday reported a sharp decline in the efficacy of Pfizer/BioNTech’s coronavirus vaccine after receiving data from a recent analysis. Data from the analysis conducted by the Health Ministry suggest the efficacy of the vaccine declines over time in preventing infection and severe illness.


Health officials presented their findings during a meeting of the ministry’s Epidemic Management Team on Monday night, which showed that protection from coronavirus infections among vaccinated people decreased by 42% since the start of the inoculation drive in Israel. In addition, protection from severe illness has also recorded a sharp drop of up to 60% among those who were inoculated in the early stages of the vaccine rollout.

Alex Berenson has some numbers on the same topic:

And ask yourself: does it make sense that a vaccine is now 30% effective vs infection but still retains the same 80-90% effectiveness against severe disease? I liked this from @ScottAdamsSays: “If a vaccination doesn’t stop you from getting a disease, but it does reduce the symptoms, wouldn’t that be called a therapeutic?” Yes, but what do you call it if it doesn’t do that either? Where is the evidence, other than in big words? Remember how Remdesivir was marketed in much the same way, and billions spent on it, only to find it was an absolute bust.

But Remdesivir is not the same as the spike protein inducing vaccines. Compared to them, it’s just a small snake oil operation. The fates of entire governments and nations (constitutions even!) have been been tied to mRNA by now, so if it doesn’t perform as promised, they have nowhere else to turn. A dangerous position to be in.

Which is why, as we see the first signs of this appearing, there will be no discussion until it can no longer be plausibly denied. And that, given the grip the campaign has over media everywhere, can take a very long time. In the meantime, there will be booster shots, allegedly because of variants, but they will only make things worse. They will boost the presence of spike proteins in bodies whose natural immune systems are already overwhelmed.. by spike proteins.

I said recently that I think the reaction to the vaccines not working will be more lockdowns and masks and vaccination pressure, in order to prevent people from finding out that the vaccines don’t work. There’ll be much talk of Delta -and Gamma- spreading like crazy and leaving us no choice, but in the end that won’t make the vaccines work.

We’ve been told that they are the only hope we have, and when that hope is gone, what are they going to say? Boosters and lockdowns, that’s what. And heaps of blame on all the unvaccinated, even if they are no more contagious or threatening -or threatened- than anyone else.

We must all hope that the course of Delta where we live will be like that in India: a 90+% decrease in infections in two months. Our problem is, the vaccines may have already made that course impossible.

 

 

This graph from Iceland is a good way to close. As vaccinations rise, so do infections. “But it would have been so much worse without the vaccines”, say the experts. You can’t prove that, though, can you? Now, I can’t -yet- prove that it’s the vaccines that led to the positive tests, but we’re working on that. It just takes a bit longer if the information is banned and hidden from view and the media ia AWOL.

 

 

 

 

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  • #80787

    Vincent van Gogh Pollard Willows and Setting Sun 1888     I have the feeling that the story about Covid and the vaccines is about to change
    [See the full post at: Rage Against the Vaccine]

    #80788
    Susan C
    Participant

    It’s rare for me to leave a comment, Raul, but I do visit every morning once I’ve scanned Naked Capitalism where the covid coverage has been largely so unquestioning of the official narrative that it’s often unreadable for anyone who has investigated further. In fact, both my husband and I have had comments questioning aspects of the story as promoted by government officials and the msm banned.

    Thankfully, there are a few others more qualified to speak about medical issues than we are. This morning a comment left on NC by IMDoc is pertinent to your essay this morning:

    IM Doc
    July 24, 2021 at 8:18 am

    About the French Guyana paper from the CDC

    This is how science – the actual process – not the Fauci version – should be working.

    I have repeatedly stated that I am seeing much much more vaccinated positives than one would ever have expected. As I have stated, they seem to be much sicker (though not critically so) and they tend to happen in clusters. For the past two months, this has stuck out from the dominant media narrative. I have never had to fight the cognitive dissonance between the media and my own eyeballs in my life.

    I belong to a large non-public alumni group of my residency program that has literally thousands of IM docs all over America. The first thing a scientist does is to confirm that your observations are general or something you are just seeing. It was quickly obvious from that group that I was far from alone despite the “minimal breakthrough cases” media narrative.

    So, then you do everything you can to hypothesize reasons why you are seeing what you are. I have been a physician for 30 years and that experience plays a huge role as well. Having this gigantic number of breakthrough cases just simply does not happen. I continue to see more than half the cases in vaccinated patients and so do many others. UNHEARD OF IN VACCINES BEFORE NOW.

    Part of hypothesizing why is looking to the literature for evidence. Seldom is this found in RCT at this stage. Case reports and series like this paper are critical. They are seeing the same breakthrough ratio. And they have done a lot more viral research than you can. This is a gold mine for my own questions.

    Is there anything in the paper that could possibly explain what I am seeing. Lots of times, it is not in the headline part but in all the test results and discussion. And yes, there is a very important finding deep in the results.

    Why would clustering and sicker patients be so much more common in the breakthrough patients – there must be a reason for that?

    If you look at the brief discussion of cT or cycle threshold you will see that the vaccinated patients have a SIGNIFICANTLY lower cT than the unvaccinated. That is the way the PCR test works. It basically means the vaccinated have a much higher amount of viral active particles than the unvaccinated. That would account for the breakthroughs I and my colleagues are seeing being a bit more ill. And it would explain the clustering. THe vaccinated breakthroughs have much higher viral load so they are much more contagious and the higher viral load makes them more symptomatic.

    So we now have a suggestion and strong evidence that the vaccinated population may be spreading much more virus than the unvaccinated. I would say that is a critical public health issue and must be further researched immediately.

    This Certainly needs much more work. THis is not confirmatory of any conclusions. But it is consistent with observation on the ground – unlike most of what the media has been spewing to the American people. But this is how science works. This paper is about the gamma variant but a conference yesterday with experts discussed that similar findings were being found in delta and lambda. The suggestion in this paper is now on the front of my mind. I am even now thinking of ways to confirm or falsify these conclusions going forward. This is science.

    Another issue. The writers make the point that the breakthrough rate is extremely divergent from the expected rate. The difference is this paper documents what is happening in REAL LIFE. So much of what we are hearing on our media about vaccine efficacy is research being done in vitro. It is presented as gospel truth. I just want to scream.

    I am doing great and thanks for all the kind words. More about my week later. The commenters here are the best in the internet and I so appreciate my time here.

    #80791
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Susan C: thank you for the comment. 🙂 Now if only all these doctors would speak out publicly about their experience (not just comment on NC) and quote actual numbers. And publish their names. Until the “I must remain anonymous” to protect my job BS ends, this vaccine drama will continue to play out. To the detriment of our children, and that’s where I lose my patience and also my sympathy for these cowards. Speak out. Speak up. Don’t stop. Lose your job? You won’t be the first person who has lost a job due to speaking out on this vaxx. These medical professionals need to grow a pair. Yesterday.

    #80793
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    It’s also pathetic that with the amount of money we pump into the CDC we’re forced to refer to studies from other countries instead of carrying out our own here in the US. Talk about the CDC (and FDA) and big pharma sleeping together for decades now … this current example is absolutely and blatantly disgusting.

    I haven’t been a fan of the medical industrial complex for decades. The current debacle has fully sealed the deal. I have no idea why anyone would trust any vaccine injection in the future. That’s how cynical I’ve become. I know Dr D said “don’t let them do this” but it’s too late, at least for me.

    Raul is right. “Rage Against the Vaccine” indeed. And it’s about so much more than the vaccine itself, as he so aptly points out in this post. Thank you.

    #80795
    Susan C
    Participant

    To upstateNYer: I agree with you. If only every medical professional were really honest about their observations this debacle would end so much faster.. and it’s already gone on far too long as evidence about the lack of ‘vaxine’ efficacy becomes more apparent with each passing day.
    Unfortunately, I’m unable to suggest public disclosure of his findings to IMDoc because of all my covid comments being blocked.

    #80797
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    “Data From India Continues To Blow Up The ‘Delta’ Fear Narrative” (BlazeMedia)

    In other words, our government is learning all the wrong lessons from India, and now Israel and the U.K.

    Our poor wittle guvment just can’t seem to learn. Like little Joey, maybe it’s dyslexia or (Gasp) ADHD?

    Or maybe learning or public health is not the goal here? Maybe the so-called pandemic is just a tool being used by the rulers in order to carry out a more nefarious plan that’s currently hidden behind a curtain of lies. Possibly a controlled demolition of the economic system in which the banks and billionaires survive intact? Or maybe the first stage of an authoritarian dictatorship which sorely needs the vaccine pass program for rigid population control? Or maybe even the ultimate plan to cull humanity down to the carrying capacity of the planet? It’s certainly not about healthcare or learning for that matter. Trying to weave either of these motives into current pandemic policies will just give you a splitting headache.

    “Liars will always double-down!” Madamski wrote something like this a few days ago, and it stuck with me. I remember thinking at the time, “Damn, she’s right!”. Liars will never admit that they lied, but will tell an even bigger lie to cover up the first lie. Then proceed to beat you about the ears for the gall of questioning their sincerity. And as Jean-Claude Juncker pointed out: “When things get serious,” he said, “you have to know how to lie.”

    Mistress: Ring! Ring! Ring!

    Wife: Hello, Smith residence.

    Mistress: Click!

    Wife: Honey, I’ve been getting calls lately, but they always hang up when I answer. It really bothers me when people do stuff like that.

    Husband: It’s been happening to me too. Probably some teenagers making prank calls.

    And speaking of doubling down:

    I said recently that I think the reaction to the vaccines not working will be more lockdowns and masks and vaccination pressure, in order to prevent people from finding out that the vaccines don’t work. – Ilargi

    #80798
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Susan C: you naughty, naughty person, you! 😉 Block that covid heretic, I tell you! Block her!!

    One of this past week’s featured obituaries on syracuse.com was a 54-year-old woman who died of stroke complications. She was a pharmacy technician for 30 years.

    If you don’t mind me asking, have you figured out how to reconcile NC’s massive distrust of big pharma (think oxy articles for example) with its massive trust of all vaccines? This never made sense. I no longer visit, haven’t for at least a couple years. But this glaring dichotomy was always apparent. It’s part of why I stopped visiting. When it came to the topic of vaccines, people with legitimate questions were instantly shut down on NC. Why?

    Something about taking the log out of your own eye before …

    #80799
    democritus
    Participant

    England is doing well according to these charts.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending9july2021

    I cannot prove that it is because of the vaccine, but then if the vaccine were killing huge numbers it would show up in these charts. It’s hard to really know the truth about what’s going on, but I decided on balance that the vaccine was less risky than the risk of getting covid19, and so far nothing you have said has convinced me otherwise.

    I see the usual confusion about cases, infections, covid, but skip it all and go straight to the death stats. There isn’t much confusion about death, you are either dead or not dead.

    #80800
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Democritus, if you’re double jabbed and still reading TAE then I salute you, I don’t know any vaccinated people who can bear to hear that they might have made the wrong decision and usually get very defensive or even aggressive when presented with some inconvenient facts.

    If you read the article and remain unconvinced, then I salute you again, not because I think you’re right, but because you’re looking at the evidence and making up your own mind. That to me is what it’s all about.

    #80802
    Alexander Carpenter
    Participant

    “Maybe I’m a bit early, not just because this would go against the overwhelming narrative grain, but also because the process itself that will lead to this, is not yet advanced enough. But perhaps that would merely mean an early warning.”

    Easy, there, Big Guy — you would’t want to be charged with “prematude anti-vaccism,” would you?

    #80803
    Alexander Carpenter
    Participant

    Premature anti-vaccism,” sorry…

    #80805
    TAE Summary
    Participant

    * The Covid Daily
    – Vaccination crossed the Rubicon
    – Long term, placebos work better than the vaccines
    – Pandemic was planned and simulated; How about a nice game of chess?
    – PCR test is being replaced with the more reliable examining of ritually killed chicken entrails
    – Vaccination is Constitutionally Mandated; Constitution does not allow us to endanger others; No more walking into a room
    – Abalama Gornevor gets it wackbards
    – To avoid wearing useless masks CA employees must wear a goofy sticker alleging they got a dangerous gene therapy for a disease that mildly affects most people and was preventable by widely available medicines
    – It is difficult to get a man to speak out on something, when his livelihood and future depend on him not speaking out on it.
    – The models were wrong
    – Public health is not the goal; You get what you measure
    – The unvaxxed are more self-sufficient
    – The vaxxed are duper-spreaders
    – Biden gives impassioned speech demanding the separation of science and state

    * Vaxx! Ah-ah!
    Savior of the Universe
    Vaxx! Ah-ah!
    It’ll save every one of us
    Stand for every one of us
    It saves with a mighty hand
    Every man, every woman
    Every child, Vaxx!

    * We can extend Homo Sap shelf life by:
    – Getting rid of the bulging cans
    – Getting rid of everything near or past it’s freshness date
    – Poking a hole in all willing wrappers and disposing of whatever gets moldy

    * Organizational Behavior
    – Cleveland Baseball Team changes name to We-Are-Groot
    – Governments never learn
    – Liars double down; Lying is a skill
    – Naked Capitalist: “Stick it to the man but stick in your arm”

    * Electric rain is cool; Goodbye Water wars, Hello Cloud Wars; How did our clouds get over their land?

    * Now in the twelfth month, that is, the month Adar, on the thirteenth day of the same, when Biden’s commandment and his decree drew near to be put in execution, in the day that the enemies of the Unvaxxed hoped to have power over them,
    The Unvaxxed gathered themselves together in their cities throughout all the states of the country, to lay hand on such as sought their hurt: and no man could withstand them; for the fear of them fell upon all people.
    Thus the Unvaxxed smote all their enemies with the stroke of the sword, and slaughter, and destruction, and did what they would unto those that hated them.

    #80806
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    democritus: “I decided on balance that the vaccine was less risky than the risk of getting covid19”

    The risks of Covid-19 are individualized, not universal, and I support your right to make such a personal decision.

    #80807
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    I’ll chime in on vaccine choice. I have many vaccinated [close] family and friends. All adults so far, I think (hesitate to ask about their children). It’s an adult’s choice. But when the officials are pushing injection of children so they can attend school or participate in events, the gloves come off.

    These vaccines, or whatever they are, have ZERO evidence of mid- to long-term effects. There cannot be evidence of said effects because the vaccines haven’t been in use long enough to determine it. Period. Absolutely no one can argue that. It’s a fact.

    Leave the kids alone. Leave me, as an unvaxxed, alone.

    Vaxx yourself based on your analysis of personal risk, if that’s what you want. Boosters? Go for it, if that seems the best choice for you personally. This whole thing would not even be an argument if the vaccinated and public health officials would knock off the BS.

    For god’s sake – million dollar lotteries to get vaccinated? When in history has that been done??

    #80808
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Alexander: I kinda like “prematude” better. 🙂

    #80809
    Archie
    Participant

    Special kudos to TAE Summary today for evoking Flash Gordon in his Covid daily. You are setting the bar very high, very early me thinks.

    #80810
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Our poor wittle guvment just can’t seem to learn. Like little Joey, maybe it’s dyslexia or (Gasp) ADHD?

    All part of the rape, pillage, plunder & MURDER scheme of the @merikan Arse~ISIStocracy.

    This has been going on for decades, Ike warned us & JFK was slaughtered for rejecting membership, probably RFK too ~ But no, alas We the Sheeple love the Empire’s fear porn + free $hit too much to question why the breakaway culture is getting richer while everyone else is withering on the vine.

    A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice…A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right ~ Thomas Paine

    Tucker is the 21st century’s Thomas Paine & he’s laying it all out for everyone to see & hear:

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/lee-smith-biden-administration-corporate-establishment-has-sold-america-off-for-parts-to-china

    Unfortunately Common Sense requires more than 30 seconds of mentation & distracts Twits from Fakebook & Instacrap Reason to become once again popular, but Hope springs Eternal & perhaps soon the lamentations of millions may be sufficient to arouse the sleeping giant…

    #80811
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Irony: fear of breathing in a “novel” coronavirus results in people lining up to be injected with a “novel” man-made, synthetic mRNA product.

    #80814
    Oroboros
    Participant

    I posted at the end of a previous thread about the real data around adverse effects from Covid.

    SAERS is being hampered if not outright tampered with. So are the other adverse reporting systems. It doesn’t matter how, i.e. overly complex form, NO code for Covid in the form despite codes for all other vaccines etc…

    The NSA and the other alphabet soup ‘intelligence agencies’ have been illegally tracking and vacuuming personal data about every Tom, Dick and Harry since WWII in pretty much every country of earth.

    Cell phone data is especially juicy.

    GPS coordinates, pattern overlap (your paramour and your wife get coffee at the same shop, what a surprise!)

    Like I said before, you get real sick and bed ridden, the GPS coordinates on your phone STOP. That’s not your ‘normal’ pattern, gee wonder if your sick by looking at the data.

    Cattle ranchers put GPS collars on their cattle. If the GPS X x Y doesn’t move in x number of minutes, the cow is either stuck on something or dead or eaten by something. Cowboy man goes and checks it out.

    This kind data analysis is not rocket science. Even the slow on the uptake crowd should get this.

    Jack this data stream way up about an individual several magnitudes and apply high end AI

    It now comes in three main flavors

    artificial narrow intelligence (A.N.I.)
    artificial general intelligence (A.G.I)
    artificial super intelligence (A.S.I.)

    The Intelligence Mafia is collecting every iota of SARS-CoV-2 data effecting individuals and their reaction to the ‘vaccines’, in LIVE TIME.

    Why would you think otherwise?

    The Intelligence Mafia’s power is totally unchecked, doubt me, ask Julian, why would it miss the individual’s vaccine reactions?

    You stop buying regular groceries for a week because you went blind from the ‘jab’ and had to go to the eye doctor.

    Ya think the Intel Mafia doesn’t know? Really? When-where-how.

    The Plandemic is a Big Experiment and the resulting data, the different reactions of the different parts of the population to it, is a GOLD MINE of info.

    In fact, armed with the actual accurate data illegally surveiled up, NOT the fragments from VAERS, NOT the guess work of Websites, NOT the MSM bullshite, but the Real Data, the powers that be have successfully gathered up data that Nazi medical experiments could only dream of, in a thousand lifetimes!

    So the questions about how humans are effected by the ‘vaccines’, vaxxed vs unvaxxed, are already known down to fractions of a decimal point, RIGHT NOW, just not by you or me or the butcher, baker or candle stick maker.

    Big Data knows, RIGHT NOW, in live time. What a shock!

    But they are a very small club and humanity is not in it.

    The only hope is another Julian Assange leaking that Data and after what has happened to him, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that day to come.

    .

    #80815
    democritus
    Participant

    Generally with vaccines problems turn up soon after vaccination, not years later. But either way, how do we know what the long term effects of sars-cov2 will be?

    I have my doubts about vaccinating children, but Dr Griffin here points to long covid in children.

    TWiV 783: COVID-19 clinical update #72 with Dr. Daniel Griffin

    #80817
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    TAE is an island of sanity.

    The private/public corporate state have used propaganda to advance their goals since nonexistent Weapons of Mass Destruction were hyped to invade Iraq. A for-profit system based on lies is simply incapable of doing the public good. The USA is too corrupt and incompetent now to eradicate coronavirus.

    Chaos is spreading through American cities. Pandemic fear is being ignited once again. We, the unvaccinated, are blamed. Further dividing Americans to stay in power and get richer.

    Literally a house divided cannot stand. Only the restoration of science, sanity, community and democracy (ending the galloping inequality and declining lifespans) will avoid succession.

    #80818
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @democritus: “Generally with vaccines problems turn up soon after vaccination, not years later.”

    Are you able to tell us how this vaccine is similar to previous vaccines? If not, then how does “generally” apply?

    #80819
    Oroboros
    Participant

    A quick search engine hit about mRNA

    “Experts believe long-term effects from the gene therapy may include prion diseases such as Alzheimer’s, cancers, kidney diseases and microvascular injuries to the brain, liver and heart…”

    Good luck in connecting mRNA to bad health effects in the future.

    Look at the dirtbags in Big Tobacco and how long they put off the connection between smoking and lung cancer, which by the way was a no-brainer to anyone with some common sense.

    Imagining how easy it will be to assign other causes to future health effects years from now.

    How about Round Up and cancer or Johnson & Johnson’s cancer causing talcum powder that took decades to come to trial.

    #80820
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The data collected from the SARS-CoV-2 Global Plandemic Experiment will be priceless.

    It will be the template for total social credit score hell and knowing the genetic makeup of every person of earth.

    AI thrives and evolves as a function of how much data points you can stuff into it.

    The AI with the largest quantity of high quality data win the AI arms race.

    .

    #80823
    those darned kids
    Participant

    i just put this on the rattle, but..

    22 cases of heart inflammation in nova scotia, canada; even msg picks up story (links wouldn’t post)

    i’m sorry, but if “life farms” 400g baby salad greens causes 22 e. coli cases, it’s pulled and “HEALTH ALERT” scrolls across every news ticker in every living room, food court, and dental office in the land.

    #80824
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    The mood in Australia

    Dr Parnis said vaccines were the “only way to escape the pandemic” but a focused rollout would not make an immediate difference to NSW’s COVID outbreak.
    Source

    And we’ve just ordered millions more doses from Pfizer. The federal government is copping a lot of flak for having been slow, slow, slow in getting the vaccines out. If the vaccine starts evidently failing, what future for any of our governments?

    #80825
    V. Arnold
    Participant
    #80826
    those darned kids
    Participant

    Press Release From Happy Valley Public School Board:

    To all parents,

    During these trying times, your compliance to the extra-ordinary measures we have had to undertake in order to stave off a global pandemic scourge has been a shining example for our community, and especially, for your very children.

    That is why we now ask all of you to enroll you children in a phase 3 clinical vaccine trial. The data gained from this experiment will help science develop better vaccine technology to ensure safe and effective vaccines in the future.

    As a successful vaccine campaign depends on maximum participation, fully trained personnel will be on hand during the first week of school to administer the necessary jabs. This will ensure 100% compliance in order to fully protect your child at school, in the community, and at home.

    Child already vaccinated? No need to worry. Just bring her vaccine card to the school and the appropriate booster dose will be ready for added protection.

    At this time unfortunately, we will not able to accommodate those who wish to abstain from this experiment as the safety of our future generations is paramount.

    Yours Truly in Learning,

    Shep Muttonville, PhD,

    Superintendent

    #80827
    those darned kids
    Participant

    thanks, v. arnold. the software here thinks i’m a robot despite my best efforts. and “edit”…

    #80828
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    At this juncture, it’s a moot point whether or not the corona was intentionally modified/released; governments have quickly taken full advantage of the “situation” and trashed all rights and medical safety protocals…
    The Rubicon has been crossed…
    …and the galoots are re-writing our rules and rights; lives (yours/ours), no longer matter…our usefulness will determine what the galoots do with us…

    #80830
    those darned kids
    Participant

    this is an excellent resource (some of the timeline examples are heartbreaking). if a med student in 2018, after having studied this document had answered that you could develop a vaccine in 7 months, have no animal testing, and conduct a poorly designed phase iii trial lacking a placebo on the majority of the adult population, they would have been laughed out of school at warp speed.

    to wit:

    Vaccine Development, Testing, and Regulation

    Paul Offit, MD, describes the general process of making a vaccine.

    The College of Physicians of Philadelphia

    Vaccine development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years and involving a combination of public and private involvement.

    The current system for developing, testing, and regulating vaccines developed during the 20th century as the groups involved standardized their procedures and regulations.

    Last update 17 January 2018

    ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••

    from the section on VAERS:

    VAERS has successfully identified several rare adverse events related to vaccination. Among them are

    • An intestinal problem after the first vaccine for rotavirus was introduced in 1999
    • Neurologic and gastrointestinal diseases related to yellow fever vaccine

    Additionally, according to Plotkin et al., VAERS identified a need for further investigation of MMR association with a blood clotting disorder, encephalopathy after MMR, and syncope after immunization (Plotkin SA et al. Vaccines, 5th ed. Philadelphia: Saunders, 2008).

    •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••

    One Phase III goal is to assess vaccine safety in a large group of people. Certain rare side effects might not surface in the smaller groups of subjects tested in earlier phases. For example, suppose that an adverse event related to a candidate vaccine might occur in 1 of every 10,000 people. To detect a significant difference for a low-frequency event, the trial would have to include 60,000 subjects, half of them in the control, or no vaccine, group (Plotkin SA et al. Vaccines, 5th ed. Philadelphia: Saunders, 2008).

    don’t forget to answer assessment questions at the bottom of the page.

    LINK TO FOLLOW (if i can get through..)

    #80832
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    How are the elites going to get half of the poor folk (who trust them) to kill the other half of the poor folk (who don’t trust them) if the dumb and trusting first half has just been killed off by the vaccine that they so foolishly trusted ?

    #80835
    WES
    Participant

    Britain’s self inflicted “ping” pandemic strikes me as a deliberate effort to continue to drive the covid fear factor. There can be no other logical reason, considering the economic damage being inflicted by this mal-ware. Nobody would do this unless they had a political agenda that the end justifies the means.

    We are now seeing the msm hyping the blame the unvaxxed and make them pay and suffer narrative. They are doubling down on their lies. They are trying to delay the day people realize that the vaccines don’t work and may be creating long term health consequences for those who got vaccinated. Sadly we are not there yet.

    #80836
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Holy Shit!!!!
    My Ivermectine arrived just now (11 am)…only 8 days…I ordered on the 17th…
    Big sigh of relief… 🙂

    #80837

    Oroboros- when they don’t really know, they’ll bs. I thought this about Snowden- what he did was make us all think they have everything or can get everything if they want- this made it so they could accuse and we would believe them because they had the data. Do they? Really?
    Where is anything in the law or reality that says what they collect has to be real or true?
    Perception is everything, isn’t it?
    Off topic- I purchased some hearing aids- my sister has been pressing me to do so- and while they aren’t nearly so smooth as my friend’s 5000 dollar ones, they still make me ask the question: if I hear trading information from my neighbor up the hill, is it insider trading for me to act on it?

    Seriously, folks, these cheap little earbuds are superman stuff.

    #80838
    Windlesham
    Participant

    Here we go. For me this post is in a sense a call to battle stations, as you will understand from the personal nature of what follows.

    Long, long time reader, first time poster, lots of good info here so kudos to Raul and posters. As with many here my sense of foreboding is intermingled with frustration with respect to the current state of affairs. Please allow me to introduce myself and join the community.

    My family and I live in Canada. I am an engineer. My wife is a registered nurse who works in a long term care home, has done so in the same facility for over 15 years. Having done our due diligence and finding the official narrative equal parts disturbing, unscientific and single minded, neither of us has received what is presently offered as a vaccine for this particular virus. A part of our concern is in what lies ahead for our 4 year old, and stiffens our resolve.

    This despite the coercive attempts by my wife’s employer, mostly successful unfortunately, to push a jab on staff. The current situation is this…the provincial authorities have decided not to try to mandate vaccines for healthcare workers, and those unvaccinated have been told they must take compulsory “training”, continue to wear PPE, continue to be tested daily, change clothes onsite, basically making life as inconvenient as possible. In contrast the vaxxed need only wear minimal PPE. I suggested she wear a yellow star whilst at work but I wouldn’t expect anyone to understand the gesture nor do I think it would be respectful.

    She has worked extra shifts the last 18 months, being moved onto the ‘covid floor’ during outbreaks because others were on stress leave or fearful, and volunteering to come in unpaid to help hydrate and feed the vulnerable who had fallen sick. And yet she is being vilified while many of those same staff members who took leave or asked to be moved out of the ‘covid floor’ are considered heroes for simply taking the path of least resistance and accepting a vaccine that really is a complete unknown with regard to long term effects, let alone the known dangerous short term effects? That being said, I am (very) cautiously optimistic that the silent majority, like our friends and family have proven, are at least tolerant if not indifferent to our position.

    We are fully prepared for her to step down from her position should it come to that, which would be unfortunate. It seems the best we can hope for is this virus fades as they tend to and we manage to lie low.

    In an alternate scenario as time passes and it is clear that the vaccines are useless, or worse yet, outright dangerous, my expectation is that any number of narratives will be spun blaming the dirty unvaxxed. Neither is a really hopeful scenario.

    #80839
    Windlesham
    Participant

    This is the most recent communication from the facility…

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    #80842
    russellnblbs
    Participant

    @ezlxa I have thought that the extreme glacial pace at which the aus gov is putting the shots out may mean we have a silent hero somewhere in government haha. The slower the roll out the longer we have for it become blazingly obvious that they don’t work and are extremely dangerous. The longer the delay the better. I’m 99.94% sure I’m wrong but here’s hoping.

    #80855
    Red
    Participant

    Always a great site to visit for info not offered on the MSM. Have been following for years, comment almost never. A thought on A.I., get rid of your phone! We run a small residential painting company and as such had a phone attached to us everywhere we went. This past year I’ve been working to have this infernal thing surgically removed. We’ve set the wheels in motion so as to be without a digital track, at least by that form. All correspondence with be through email only on my lap top that never leaves the home office. In approx. two months the cell will be disconnected. This accomplishes two small, very small, steps away from the BAU. First the track and ping bs that is happening in the UK would be rendered useless if enough phones were at least left on the kitchen counter when going out. The tracking that is done for whatever reason becomes less valuable. Secondly it removes one more very tiny piece of the “income stream” from the narrative.

    P.S. I’m in Nova Scotia and so far most around us have been tagged and no grief our way as yet!

    #80856
    Red
    Participant

    Forgot to mention,
    We’ve been turning the phone off on Fridays and back on Monday morning. Perhaps sacrificing personal income on principle. The message on voice mail explains that the phone number will no longer be working in a few weeks time and gives the email address for contact. Keep the faith, whatever that means to you.
    Kodo’s to all that post here it has been an eye opener over the past two years! Our hapless leaders are thrashing about like a wounded rhino. They are literally out of fuel to maintain any visual resemblance of the past 4 decades.

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