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Caravaggio The raising of Lazarus 1609

 

 

A Dutch paper tells me that PM Mark Rutte is “very disappointed” that Switzerland has decided not to deliver 96 more tanks, that belong to Swiss “defense company” Ruag, and which Germany, Holland and Denmark wanted to purchase, to send to Ukraine. The 96 would have come on top of another 100 they also apparently bought for the same purpose. Neither would make any difference for the outcome of the battle. 100 tanks is nothing. The only thing we know for sure is that 96 more tanks will kill 96xY more people. But of course Rutte is not the only EU and NATO “leader” who thinks the way he does. They all do, except Orban and perhaps Serbia’s Vucic. But Biden, Blinken, Macron, Scholz, you name them, they all say the same thing: we must deliver more guns, tanks, jet fighters. US “top general” Mark Milley chimes in:

Ukrainian Counteroffensive Will Be Long And ‘Very Bloody’

Ukraine’s counteroffensive will be “very difficult” and achieving significant gains could take a long time, a top US military officer has warned, Report informs, citing Yahoo. Army general Mark Milley told the National Press Club in Washington that the counteroffensive was “advancing steadily, deliberately working its way through very difficult minefields … 500 meters a day, 1,000 meters a day, 2,000 meters a day, that kind of thing”. Mr Milley said he was unsurprised progress was slower than some people predicted.


He said: “War on paper and real war are different. In real war, real people die. Real people are on those front lines and real people are in those vehicles. Real bodies are being shredded by high explosives.” Mr Milley added: “What I had said was this is going to take six, eight, 10 weeks, it’s going to be very difficult. It’s going to be very long, and it’s going to be very, very bloody. And no one should have any illusions about any of that.”

My problem with this is they all know very well that some 400,000 young Ukrainians have already died in the conflict, with many more severely injured, and many many more will be killed and maimed if these tanks are delivered to Kiev and the “counteroffensive” continues. Not Rutte’s Dutch young people, or Biden and Milley’s Americans or Macron’s French, no, just young Ukrainians. And some Russians, at about a 1 to 10 count. But if they don’t care about young Ukrainians, they sure care less about young Russians.

Where does this attitude come from? What makes it acceptable to help kill more young people, anywhere in the world? Young men who have mothers, fathers, girlfriends, wives, who should have children or already have them? Who are “leaders” like Rutte to knowingly send them to their deaths? For what reason? So they can beat Russia and save Ukraine’s “democracy”? Ukraine has no elections, no political parties, no free press, and Zelensky is selling its land to BlackRock et al as we speak. And that’s what these promising young lives have to be cut short for? For Zelensky’s and BlackRock’s profits?

Majority Of Americans Back Weapons Deliveries To Ukraine

Some 65% of Americans support continued military aid to Ukraine, up from 46% in May, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll published on Wednesday. Other surveys, however, show a fall in support for President Joe Biden’s promise of unlimited weapons for Kiev. Conducted earlier this week, the poll found bipartisan support for arming Ukraine, with 81% of Democrats and 56% of Republicans in favor. This result mirrors the situation in Congress, where Biden’s Democrats are almost unanimous in backing arms deliveries, while the GOP is split between an establishment that backs the weapons shipments and a pro-Trump, isolationist wing in opposition.

First, send young Dutch, American, French, boys -and girls -to die on the Ukraine battlefields. Then see how the homefront reacts. And tell them that Ukraine and NATO have no chance in hell of beating Russia. But yes, I know, the propaganda never stops. And then you get surveys like this. Putin is the antichrist and Zelensky is Churchill. If you dumb people down enough, anything goes. But still, Rutte, Milley, Biden, Blinken et al are murdering young Ukrainians. You can’t blame Putin, or Russia for this. Your voters may believe it, but the world at large, outside of your propaganda field, will not.

These people want you to believe, and maybe they still believe it themselves, that Ukraine can beat Russia. Over the past 16 months, there has been nothing that points to that, Ukraine has lost anything and everything, but EU and NATO still want to send more weapons into the meat grinder. Weapons, but not their children. Why do 65% of Americans, and “leaders” like Rutte, Blinken, Macron, want the killing to continue? Because their voters have no problem with 400,000 dead young Ukrainians. And their media will blame everything on Putin. The same media tells them they will win. But there is no indication that this is even remotely realistic. Unfortunately, NATO doesn’t care about realistic: losing to Russia is not in their dictionary. Having a million Ukrainians killed, is.

 

NATO is the past. Its power has waned. The US alone spends more than 10 times more on its defense budget than Russia, but is lagging way behind in weapons development. And it’s not going to make up for that disadvantage anytime soon. Certainly not in time to turn the Ukraine conflict around. And still guys like Rutte and Milley want to send more tanks into the battlefield. These people need psychiatric assistance. As do the next tranches of Ukraine cannon fodder. What we, the collective west, are providing Ukraine with, is not a chance at winning a war, but a mind boggingly huge assisted suicide program. And we, NATO citizens, should ask ourselves if we want to be part of that. If you live in NATO/EU territory, this is now on your conscience. No escaping anymore. They speak and act in your name. You can no longer claim innocence.

How many more young Ukrainians are left for you to kill? The “400,000 dead young Ukrainians” number comes from US military veterans like Scott Ritter and Douglas Macgregor. Maybe it’s “only” 350,000. But that included all their most experienced and trained soldiers. Their replacements are nowhere near as good. How many of those? I’d guess 100,000, 200,000 at best. While Russia just finished properly training 300,000 over an 8-month period, Kiev picked up kids and 65-year olds from the street, gave them a 2-week crash course, and dumped them at a frontline.

But you know what’s the worst thing here, and that I haven’t even mentioned? Nobody on the US/NATO/Kiev side, when confronted with those numbers among Ukrainians, ever mentions peace talks. No-one. The reason is that they would have to admit Russia’s won and NATO lost. Not just Ukraine lost, but NATO. And that is unthinkable. Consider what that would mean for the close to $1 trillion a year US arms industry, Raytheon, Boeing etc. They would never -voluntarily- admit it. Hey, they make more profit than they have in decades… What’s another 100,000 Ukrainian assisted suicides? I grew up thinking that every human life matters.

 

 

 

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    Caravaggio The raising of Lazarus 1609     A Dutch paper tells me that PM Mark Rutte is “very disappointed” that Switzerland has decided not
    [See the full post at: Assisted Suicide]

    #138209
    redshift
    Participant

    I have not voted for any of them, ofc I can claim innocence. At the end of the day, if it’s not my family or friends I don’t really care, I wish it wasn’t so but I’m no losing sleep over it.

    If complete extermination of ukrainians is what it takes to end US hegemony, so be it.

    #138212
    Fisher
    Participant

    You made me tear up MIR.
    Our complete obliviousness to others pain while carrying on as normal “cause” will be our collective demise.

    #138214
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Where is the kindness? Why do these politicians live like this?
    Thank you for this piece Raul. I think panning back out of the details of this war to the larger issue is painful to do but the only way to think with compassion – something people are not engaged in much right now.

    Ukraine could have been a paradise but it’s location and ability to produce so much food have made it place of great upheavals and calamity.

    The Cabal at the back of this insanity want war and land and a way to have debt absorbed and Russia/China are in their way. They are the legacy of Empire and are as ruthless as Vampires.

    I would forgive them but it is so hard to think kindly of such atrocious and utterly consequential decision makers. What is more final than death?

    #138217
    kultsommer
    Participant

    I got this new set of gloves and boxer shorts.
    That will show Mike Tyson, for sure.
    Ukraine saga.

    #138218
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    I didn’t vote for Biden either…but I still bear a shred of culpability for what the government does, even if it is a tiny, infinitesimal shred. I am horrified at the carnage, and at the pain of having sons and lovers pressed into a stupid war, having to flee one’s home. I am relieved that it is far from me…but that does not make it okay. I don’t like what Russia has done, but given the situation, it was a logical course of action. Ukraine fighting to the last Ukrainian — that is not logical. Bombing the Donbas never made any sense either.

    #138220
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    Latest John Helmer podcast: “War of the Worlds” – 1 July 2023

    https://tntradiolive.podbean.com/e/war-of-the-worlds-1-july-2023/

    F.S.

    #138223
    Noirette
    Participant

    The top movers in USuk + the EU as a vassal, *Big W Corps*, all melded together to some degree, are pleased to see Slavs kill other Slavs, while making mealy-mouthed statements about whatever.

    Huge losses of various types can be, or must be, risked or absorbed, to ‘defeat’ Russia.

    Trade (or exploitation..) can be recovered, re-furbished, it is believed, see the plans for ‘re-constructing’ UKR, plus, the imposition of yet more sanctions on Russia, which will tighten control, depriving others, and so on..

    Ukrainians are cannon fodder, nobody cares about them except Russia perhaps for ‘their Russians’ in the Donbass, other story … certainly not the Zelensky Cabal or Powers in the Collective-West. 10 young men dead to take out one Russian is super-cool.

    ‘Regular folks’ – some % – in the C – W just follow along to keep their bread buttered aka their jobs, and display yellow-blue flags and Slava Ukrainia Slogans, MSM prevents them from having any clue about what is going on. Imho revolt from within is becoming a fear for some, e.g. France.

    #138232
    WES
    Participant

    Yesterday my brother and I were discussing the total insanity of our leaders.

    Take Justin Trudeau for example.

    Trudeau has no problem with killing his fellow Canadians and even turning a profit doing so. He did everything he could to force all Canadians to take the covid vaccine to maximize his covid investment profits.

    Trudeau introduced MAID a nice term used to describe a government program with an advertising budget to promote suicide of his fellow Canadians along with financial incentives for the people who actually do the state’s killing.

    With a mentality like this, and active support from Trudeau and Freeland, it isn’t hard to see why a war in the Ukraine is happening.

    Sadly it seems like the only way we have of stopping them, is to let them go ahead and kill people until the killing fails to achieve it’s unclear hidden objective

    #138242
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    .

    #138243
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    None of this is new. Bombing Hamburg and Dresden was a jew thing. Killing Cristians puts a big smile on their face. Is it our fault? We let them take over. Working people never did have a say in things, never will either. The Western World is a zog gulag, are we to blame? These demons should have been kicked the fuck out over 100 years ago. I was’nt alive yet, I’m just dealing with the repurcussions the best I can.

    #138244
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Dood, you can’t see the savage forest when you’re myopically bedeviled by a few sociopathic trees…

    Fini.

    #138245
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    The European ‘garden’ has been in decay for decades. But now parts of it are on fire as well as enduring rapid financial-economic-social-environmental decay.

    This dismal scenario is ultimately the product of centuries of looting and manipulation by the liars and thieves at the top of the power-money pyramid.

    A worthy rant on the current mess from George:

    P.S. On Airstrip Five we are still in the slow decay and collapse phase, with the controllers making everything progressively worse by the minute, in futile efforts to prop up unsustainable financial-economic-political arrangements imposed from ‘above’.

    #138246
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    PPS

    The French government orchestrated the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior. How dare anyone peacefully protest the actions of the warmongers?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior

    Apparently, nothing changes politically.

    However, the Empire of Lies is not invulnerable to the laws mathematics, physics, chemistry and ecology etc., and is now paying the price for centuries of deceit, manipulation and exploitation.

    #138249
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    V Poet , like most humans , has been indoctrinated from nursery school, reinforced by tv and movies, Your history was written by the people injecting you now. Should make you pause for a moment.. Animals running upland, when the tsunami approches, while people frollick on the beach, well here we are now, yes? intuition, gone. COMMON SENSE, GONE. Educated out of you…you’re being set up to walk. voluntarily, into a prison

    #138254
    poppie
    Participant

    and whoever may cause to stumble one of those little ones who are believing in me, it is better for him that a weighty millstone may be hanged upon his neck, and he may be sunk in the depth of the sea.

    #138256
    EoinW
    Participant

    Excellent piece! I copied and pasted it to my FB page for my 80 friends to ignore. A few will read it…most don’t want to know.

    They are inhuman monsters. And they will treat their own citizens the same way, when they think they can get away with it. We destroyed Libya – the sickest act I’ve witnessed in my lifetime. If we end up living in a failed state that will be karma.

    #138258
    zerosum
    Participant

    Chose
    As it has always been so it shall be

    If Russia win it get all the assets that it want. Therefore, Ukraine must negotiate.
    If Ukraine does not lose, Foreigners, (Blackrock, IMF bank, etc) gets everything.

    NOTE:
    Path to Peace and Winning
    Ukraine, declares lost the war, aligning with Russia, tells lenders to collect from Russia, and by that means, stiff the West of its lend-least debt payments.

    #138259
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    What is so upsetting about the escalating proxy World War III, is that it is obviously following the pattern of WWI. It will, at best, end up with the collapse of one or two Empires, once again, or even worse a global nuclear war. The obvious conclusion is that the same type of autocrat is running things now the same as then. Human lives don’t matter only war profits and regime change.

    With New York City air turning orange this summer from wildfires like San Francisco in 2020, the “Blade Runner” future is here now.

    The problem with individual greed is that if the lives of others are of no consideration, each individual becomes solely a statistic who has absolutely no idea of any of the risks except the pain and suffering that are guaranteed in this life. Everywhere becomes the front lines, not just Ukraine, for everyone.

    #138261
    citizenx
    Participant

    Ask yourself-
    What is it that Humans will NOT do to other humans? Or animals or plants? Or inanimate objects?

    “Now, there’s one thing you might have noticed I don’t complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don’t fall out of the sky. They don’t pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It’s what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you’re going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain’t going to do any good; you’re just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it’s not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here… like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There’s a nice campaign slogan for somebody: ‘The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.”
    ― George Carlin

    Where does this attitude come from? What makes it acceptable to help kill more young people, anywhere in the world? For profits?

    From a Buddhist perspective-
    Suffering exists. Desire (or aversion) is the root cause of suffering.
    Greed, Anger, Ignorance are the three poisons.
    Morality, Compassion, Wisdom through Meditation the antidotes.

    As Carlin notes above- “selfish and ignorant” citizens are the same politicians. Mix in some anger with greed and we have a covid cult or MIC cult or any form of ignorance manifest violence. Who pulls the trigger and why?

    I have long said that the US does it for pleasure and profit.

    The US is steeped in greed, ignorance, anger and Desires- a completely twisted form of “human nature” perverted.

    I grew up thinking that every human life matters.

    To be fair- not putting words in your mouth or being snarky… I believe you to be a bright Soul, and from observing your fondness of Art and animals and ALL forms of life-

    Is it safe to say you think that ALL forms of life, not just humans, matter. ?
    All sentient and non sentient forms IN this Universe matter.

    Art, rocks, fish, birds, all animals all matter.

    All “matter” matters.

    matter, material substance that constitutes the observable universe and, together with energy, forms the basis of all objective phenomena.

    Thank you for your spirited and beautiful space.
    Along with your patience to allow us to roam freely here.

    You inspire.

    #138280
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Remember: “If a single life is saved”…

    We will stop everything.
    We will talk to everyone.
    We are willing to destroy the entire economy.
    We are willing to suspend all law.

    If only a single life can be saved. Right?

    #138295
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @CitizenX

    Bravo and thank you for your part in making this a spirited and beautiful space.

    #138299
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @CitizenX

    Something else that you wrote kicked my imagery machine into gear. It was when you thanked RIM for his “… patience to allow us to roam freely here. ”
    I imagined him looking out over the resplendent life roaming around all over the Serengeti plain. Gorgeous, and made more poignant for the fact that not everything running around out there is all safe, warm and fuzzy.

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