Aug 242023
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Francesco Queirolo Il Disinganno, Naples, Sansevero Chapel 1753-1754


Trump: “There’s A Level Of Passion… And Hatred I’ve Never Seen” (ZH)
Ukraine Can’t Defeat Russia – Ex-NATO General (RT)
Ukraine Must Seek Ceasefire With Russia Now – Ex-Presidential Aide (RT)
US ‘Cannot Afford’ To Fund Ukraine War – Think-Tank Chief (RT)
Ending Ukraine Conflict Now Is ‘Smartest Thing We Can Do’- Macgregor (RT)
Ukraine Blames Foreign Journalists for Botched Counteroffensive (Sp.)
Russia’s Goal Is To End War That West Unleashed In Ukraine – Putin (TASS)
NATO Fighting ‘Full-Scale’ War Against Russia In Ukraine – Medvedev (TASS)
BRICS Should Set Up A Kiddie Table For Western Leaders Like Macron (Marsden)
Xi Laments ‘Cold War Mentality’ (RT)
Joe Biden’s Ukraine Defense Falls Apart (Turley)
Rand Paul On Return Of COVID Measures: “These People Have No Shame” (SN)
Wagner Decries ‘Murder’ Of Prigozhin Amid Reports Missile Struck Plane (ZH)





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“I think he’s worse mentally than he is physically… and he’s not exactly a triathlete.”

Trump: “There’s A Level Of Passion… And Hatred I’ve Never Seen” (ZH)

“It started with protests against you, then impeachment twice, and now indictments… Are you worried that they are going to try to kill you? Why wouldn’t they try to kill you?” Trump calmly responds: I’ve seen the lengths that they go to… when they make up the Russia, Russia, Russia collusion and that’s exposed… these are sick people. I think they hate our country.” On the indictments sending Trump’s poll numbers higher: “I think the people of this country don’t get enough credit for how smart they are… but they get it…” “…the people see it’s a fraud.”

On Biden: “Crooked Joe Biden is so bad, he’s the worst president in the history of our country. I don’t think he’s going to make it to the gate, but you never know.” “I think he’s worse mentally than he is physically… and he’s not exactly a triathlete.” “He’s both the most corrupt president we ever had and most incompetent.” On Biden’s links to China:”I actually believe he’s compromised… the Chinese have so much on him.” “He is in many ways a Manchurian candidate. “Do you think the rest of the world looks at Biden and thinks, somebody else must be running the government?” “well, somebody else has to be. I don’t think he’s capable of doing anything.”

Who is pulling the strings? We have a president that can’t put two sentences together, can’t speak, can’t walk, can’t talk. I don’t think he gets to the starting gate but these people do miracles… I mean he ran out of his basement and he got away with it because of COVID… and they cheated on the election…but they have people that are very smart, but they’re fascists and they’re radical left lunatics and they’re destroying our country.”

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“..fueling the expectations in the public opinion of a victory that is impossible on the ground. The Ukrainians will not prevail..”

Ukraine Can’t Defeat Russia – Ex-NATO General (RT)

Ukraine will be unable to defeat Russia on the battlefield as Moscow has more men and an “impressive” advantage in firepower, retired Italian general Marco Bertolini has said. “The Ukrainian victory is inconceivable. We must take note of this fact and sit at the negotiating table,” said Bertolini, who headed Italy’s Joint Operations Command and the Folgore paratroopers brigade in the 2000s. “This war should’ve been stopped much earlier, but in recent months the rhetoric of ‘we will win’ has been cultivated, fueling the expectations in the public opinion of a victory that is impossible on the ground. The Ukrainians will not prevail,” he told Libero Quotidiano newspaper on Monday. Kiev’s much-anticipated counteroffensive, which started in early June, “proceeds slowly,” the retired general remarked.

He mentioned a report by the Washington Post last week, which cited a classified US intelligence assessment that concluded “Ukraine’s counteroffensive will fail to reach the key southeastern city of Melitopol,” and that the aim of severing Russia’s land bridge with Crimea would not be realized this year. According to Bertolini, this was “an acknowledgment that Kiev’s objectives can’t be achieved in the expected form and time frame.” “The Russians have an advantage in the number of men and firepower. The firepower unleashed by the Russians, especially when it comes to artillery, is superior and this is impressive considering the aid that has arrived in Ukraine from all over the West,” he said. The retired general suggested that there’s now an understanding in many circles that reclaiming territories captured by Russia from Ukraine is “unrealistic.” He also pointed out that “a ceasefire with the prospect of Ukraine joining NATO, at any moment, and resuming hostilities won’t suffice for the Russians.”

“The conflict can only be ended through negotiations” in which the interests of both sides are respected, Bertolini said. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said last week that Moscow remains ready for “meaningful dialogue” on Ukraine, but the prospects for negotiations with the West “are non-existent at this stage.” Kiev’s main backer, the US, which declared the goal of inflicting a strategic defeat to Russia in Ukraine, “has no intention of ending the conflict,” he insisted. Washington maintains that any negotiated settlement must be based on the so-called ten-point peace plan proposed by Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, which calls for Russia to withdraw to borders claimed by Kiev, pay reparations, and submit to war crimes tribunals. Lavrov described this as a “pointless ultimatum.”

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“..the House [of Representatives] will not pass this $24 billion. They think the situation is at a complete impasse. That’s why Ukraine won’t get any money..”

Ukraine Must Seek Ceasefire With Russia Now – Ex-Presidential Aide (RT)

Ukraine should hasten to end hostilities with Russia before the flow of American military and financial aid to the country dries up, a former aide to two Ukrainian presidents has said. In a video on his YouTube channel posted on Tuesday, Oleg Soskin, who served as an economic adviser to Leonid Kravchuk and Leonid Kuchma in the 1990s, described the US as “the key country” in the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine, arguing that if it cuts off its military assistance to Kiev, the latter will sign some kind of agreement with Moscow “within days.” Against this backdrop, Soskin suggested that the US Congress may refuse to rubberstamp the request of US President Joe Biden to provide Kiev with an additional $24 billion in assistance, citing reports of growing reluctance among Republicans to support Ukraine in its fight against Russia.

“Basically, this means that the House [of Representatives] will not pass this $24 billion. They think the situation is at a complete impasse. That’s why Ukraine won’t get any money,” he said. If the US, which has already provided Kiev with tens of billions of dollars in various forms of aid, were to stop helping Ukraine, its NATO allies, including Germany, Britain and all other European countries, would follow suit, crippling Kiev’s military potential, the ex-official noted. “I think that [Ukraine] should stop before the US does that,” Soskin said, suggesting that “there should be a meeting of smart people in Ukraine who would be more forward-looking” than Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky and his small group of what he called “war chanters.”

Soskin also noted that the Ukrainian army has already lost the backbone of its seasoned troops, with replacements being prone to serious morale issues. He said that Kiev is forcibly drafting inexperienced soldiers who are reluctant to fight. “Ukrainians lack the motivation they had in the past year and a half,” he pointed out, suggesting that, under these conditions, Kiev stands little chance against the Russian army. The ex-official’s comments come on the heels of a recent Politico report that said “even pro-Ukraine Republicans are hedging against supporting” a new assistance package for Ukraine, with Rep. Andy Harris of Maryland noting that Kiev “can’t win the war and, therefore, the US should reconsider further stocking its defenses.”

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US Just Cannot Satisfy Ukraine’s Financial Hunger..

US ‘Cannot Afford’ To Fund Ukraine War – Think-Tank Chief (RT)

The US should reduce the assistance it’s providing to Ukraine because it cannot maintain its current level of support, the head of a leading conservative think tank has said. European nations need to do more so Kiev can keep fighting Russia, added Kevin Roberts, the president of the Heritage Foundation. He set out the case for stopping the flow of aid on Tuesday. The Washington-based think tank prides itself on its ties to the presidency of Ronald Reagan, Roberts said during an appearance on Fox News, but much has changed in America since he was in power. “The US is much weaker economically than it was. It’s impossible for us to prosecute military interventions in multiple places around the world,” he said.

Consequently, Reagan’s ‘peace through strength’ principle needs to be adapted to new realities, Roberts argued.“The US simply cannot afford the level of support that it is giving the Ukrainians. The American people are saying that,” he stated, citing recent opinion polls in the US, which indicated that the US public was turning against the continued bankrolling of Kiev. Earlier this month, the administration of President Joe Biden requested an additional $40 billion in funding from Congress, including $13 billion for Ukrainian military assistance and $7.3 billion for Kiev’s other needs. The proposal was tied to the provision of $12 billion for disaster relief in the US.

Roberts said he wanted the Ukrainians to “win” and urged Germany and France to “pull more of their own weight” to achieve that goal. When asked for his definition of a Ukrainian victory, he said he wanted “precious lives that are being lost to stop being lost today.” The Biden administration has stated that it was up to the Ukrainian government to decide how they should prosecute the war and what their end goal was. Kiev has declared that its only option is to seize all territory that it claims to be under its sovereignty, including Crimea. Moscow considers the conflict part of a US proxy war against Russia, which, it claims, Washington intends to wage “to the last Ukrainian.”

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Video is in Tuesday’s Debt Rattle.

Ending Ukraine Conflict Now Is ‘Smartest Thing We Can Do’- Macgregor (RT)

Washington needs to make every effort to end the Russia-Ukraine conflict, as Kiev’s counteroffensive has failed, and any Western intervention would be a disaster, a former Pentagon adviser has argued. Retired US Army colonel Douglas Macgregor told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Monday that claims of an imminent Ukrainian victory are a “lie” and that the latest campaign against Russian forces, launched in June, is “collapsing, because what is happening on the battlefield is horrific.” Ukraine may have lost “at least 40,000” servicemen over the past month, Macgregor claimed, while “Ukrainian hospitals are full,” and troops have been surrendering due to heavy losses and an inability to evacuate their wounded.

Moscow still has large personnel reserves and a steady supply of ammunition and missiles, Macgregor noted, warning that the West might not be able to keep up the current supply levels. “It will take us many, many months to come up to this kind of standard when we can compete in a high-end conventional warfare,” he said. The former Pentagon adviser predicted that any attempt to save Kiev from defeat might require direct Western intervention, which would have catastrophic consequences. “If we intervene…. the Russians will be ready for that. And the consequences for us and for NATO will be devastating, because we are not ready,” Mcgregor said. The US and its allies might eventually “fall back on the nuclear deterrent,” putting the world on the brink of all-out conflict.

“The smartest thing that we can do is end this war,” Macgregor concluded. The former adviser’s interview came more than two months into Ukraine’s much-hyped counteroffensive, which has so far failed to bring any tangible results, while inflicting heavy losses on Ukraine. According to the Russian Defense Ministry, Kiev’s forces have lost some 43,000 soldiers and 5,000 pieces of heavy equipment since early June.

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“Ukraine is failing in its offensive and they’re looking for somebody to blame instead of blaming themselves,” retired CIA intelligence officer Larry Johnson said.”

Ukraine Blames Foreign Journalists for Botched Counteroffensive (Sp.)

Ukraine has reportedly banned foreign journalists from visiting frontline positions without any written permission by its Commander-in-Chief Valery Zaluzhny. Switzerland’s Le Temps newspaper reported that this act of censorship could be explained by Kiev’s reluctance to make huge losses public after its troops were unable to break through the Russian defense lines amid their counteroffensive. Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Anna Malyar, for her part, earlier argued that Western media reports about the deployment of the elite 82nd Airborne Brigade had led to strikes on its positions. All this shows that “Ukraine is failing in its offensive and they’re looking for somebody to blame instead of blaming themselves,” retired CIA intelligence officer Larry Johnson said.

Referring to the counteroffensive, he said that Kiev is unwilling to “take responsibility for launching an attack that has no chance of succeeding.” He added: “Primarily because they lack air cover, they’re now trying to blame journalists or someone else.” “What’s so absurd about this? You remember we spent the first three months of 2023 hearing about Ukraine saying, ‘We’re going to attack or launch a counteroffensive’. I mean, who does that? If you’re going to launch an offensive, you’re going to sucker-punch people. You want to surprise them. You don’t want to announce it in advance. So this is just one more sign of Ukrainian failure,” Johnson underscored. The ex-CIA officer argued that even if Ukraine had “some extra reserves hanging around”, it would “not change the situation on the battlefield.” He also theorized over a hypothetical scenario assuming the Ukrainian military had gotten the better of Russian troops during Kiev’s counteroffensive.

“If Ukraine was winning, if Ukraine was defeating Russia, they [Kiev authorities] would have reporters out there on the front lines, they’d have cameras. They’d be doing live updates every 15 minutes, because there would be good news to tell. Well, there’s no good news. There’s very bad news. Ukraine is getting defeated and they’re trying to cover that up. And the only problem is as long as there are smartphones, government can’t cover up what’s happening on the ground,” Johnson concluded. The Ukrainian military launched its much-touted counteroffensive in early June after multiple postponements. Russian President Vladimir Putin underscored late last month that “the enemy was not successful in all directions of the fight.” According to him, “All counteroffensive attempts have been stopped, and the enemy has been pushed back with heavy losses.”

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“Russia has decided to support the people who are fighting for their culture, for their traditions, for their language and for their future..”

Russia’s Goal Is To End War That West Unleashed In Ukraine – Putin (TASS)

Russia’s special military operation pursues the goal of ending the war in Ukraine unleashed by a number of Western countries and their satellites, Russian President Vladimir Putin said at a meeting of BRICS leaders. “Russia has decided to support the people who are fighting for their culture, for their traditions, for their language and for their future. Our actions in Ukraine have only one reason – to put an end to the war that was unleashed by the West and their satellites in Ukraine against the people living in Donbass,” Putin said. He stressed that it was the wish of a number of Western countries to preserve their hegemony in the world that “has led to the grave crisis in Ukraine.” Putin recalled that “first, with the help of the Western countries, an unconstitutional coup d’etat was carried out in that country, and then a war was unleashed against those people who did not agree with that coup.” “This brutal war, a war of extermination, had lasted for eight years,” Putin emphasized.

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“The Western world keeps falling into the same trap over and over again..”

NATO Fighting ‘Full-Scale’ War Against Russia In Ukraine – Medvedev (TASS)

NATO is fighting a full-scale war against Russia, using the Kiev authorities as proxies, Russian Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev said in an op-ed dedicated to the 15th anniversary of Georgia’s invasion of South Ossetia and Russia’s recognition of the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, which was published on the website. The politician pointed out that “hostile observers” should have learned a lesson from those developments but “unfortunately, it did not happen.” “The Western world keeps falling into the same trap over and over again,” Medvedev said. “Our adversaries are up to their necks in the proxy war that NATO is fighting against us in Ukraine through the hands of the Kiev regime, which is a full-scale and deadly one,” he stressed.

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“..there’s no better time for non-alignment, particularly since going all-in with the Western camp’s US-led agenda hasn’t worked out too well for the average French citizen..”

BRICS Should Set Up A Kiddie Table For Western Leaders Like Macron (Marsden)

There’s no ‘F’ (for France) in ‘BRICS’ but that didn’t stop French President Emmanuel Macron from trying to “F” it up. It wasn’t that long ago that Western leaders wouldn’t give the BRICS the time of day, treating the economic bloc like the girl next door who didn’t warrant even a second glance. But now that she’s all grown up and has a massive purchasing-power-adjusted GDP that’s set to beat that of the G7, according to the International Monetary Fund, it seems to have triggered Macron’s seduction instincts. And probably his gold-digging ones, too, particularly given the richness of natural resources of the BRICS member states and their partners, notably in Africa, and at a time when France and Europe face a greater lack of resources, due to misguided policies on everything from cutting off cheap Russian energy over the conflict in Ukraine to having the welcome mat yanked out from under them in Africa, with stability operations that resulted in a proliferation of coups.

If any Western leader was going to have the audacity to try getting into a summit led by countries that they’re constantly bullying – notably China and Russia – it makes sense that it would be Macron. The French President has a unique talent for speaking out of both sides of his mouth at the same time. On one hand, he caters to Washington’s agenda by toeing its party line on Russia and China, while at the same time he occasionally brings up the need to maintain strategic autonomy from Washington. But whenever there’s a choice to be made, Macron ultimately follows the Washington agenda, even when it’s to France’s and the EU’s economic detriment.

But the mere fact that he’d asked for an invite to the 15th BRICS summit this week allows Macron to lay claim to open-mindedness. He can say that, hey, he tried to reach out, but that his hand was pushed away – which is like badmouthing a girl and then telling everyone that she won’t go out with you when she turns you down. Anyone with half a brain would think that the best thing to do now would be to go away and start proving yourself through your actions before asking for another date. The good news for Macron is that there’s no better time for non-alignment, particularly since going all-in with the Western camp’s US-led agenda hasn’t worked out too well for the average French citizen suffering from a seemingly endless cost-of-living crisis.

Macron wants a date with the BRICS so badly that the bloc should really do with him and other Western leaders what Macron himself decided last year that the European Union should do with prospective members: set up a ‘kiddie table.’ The new ‘Baby BRICS’ summit could be the equivalent of Macron’s ‘European Political Community’ of countries seen as still having to prove themselves for EU membership, but who can still score an invite to a smaller summit alongside the ‘adult’ one, in the hope of being chosen for cherry-picked special trade relationships and customs arrangements of primary benefit to the EU.

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“There are many civilizations and development paths in the world, and this is how the world should be..”

Xi Laments ‘Cold War Mentality’ (RT)

Chinese President Xi Jinping has condemned the “Cold War mentality” still “haunting our world,” as he laid out his geopolitical vision at the BRICS summit in South Africa on Wednesday. “We gather at a time when the world has entered a new period of turbulence and transformation,” Xi told the leaders of Brazil, Russia, India, and South Africa in Johannesburg. He added that the world “is undergoing major shifts, division and regrouping, leading to more uncertain, unstable and unpredictable developments.” “The Cold War mentality is still haunting our world, and the geopolitical situation is getting tense,” he continued, before restating China’s position on the Ukraine conflict: that the fighting began for “complex reasons,” and that “no one should add fuel to the fire and worsen the situation.”

The Chinese president has maintained for several years that American hegemony is in decline, and that a more multipolar world – in which Washington must treat “rising” powers like China as equals – is emerging. Xi has publicly celebrated the rebalancing of power, telling Russian President Vladimir Putin in March that both men were driving “changes, the likes of which we haven’t seen for 100 years.” Behind closed doors, he has reportedly warned his military that the geopolitical shift may lead to “the outbreak of a war and its chain reactions.”To avert this, Xi declared on Wednesday that “BRICS countries need to champion the spirit of inclusiveness, advocate peaceful coexistence and harmony between civilizations, and promote respect of all countries in independently choosing their modernization paths.”

There are many civilizations and development paths in the world, and this is how the world should be,” he stated. The Chinese leader called for the strengthening of global institutions and the adoption of global rules based on the UN Charter, “rather than dictated by those with the strongest muscles or the loudest voice.” Beijing has repeatedly condemned the US for positioning itself as leader of the “rules-based international order,” while violating the same rules that it applies to others.

“BRICS countries should practice true multilateralism, uphold the UN-centered international system, support and strengthen the WTO-centered multilateral trading system, and reject the attempt to create small circles or exclusive blocs,” Xi said, calling for increased trade, financial, and development ties between the five-nation group. Xi was not the only BRICS leader to denounce Western hegemony at the Johannesburg summit. Addressing the conference by video link, Putin blamed the conflict in Ukraine on the West’s attempts to preserve its power, and declared that BRICS stands for “the formation of a multipolar world order, truly just and based on international law.”

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“While Joe was portraying his work as fighting corruption, some officials were warning the Bidens could be part of the problem, not the solution, in Ukraine.”

Joe Biden’s Ukraine Defense Falls Apart (Turley)

The Oct. 1, 2015, memo summarizes the recommendation of the Interagency Policy Committee that was handling the anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine: “Ukraine has made sufficient progress on its reform agenda to justify a third guarantee.” One senior official even complimented Shokin on his progress in fighting corruption. So Biden was told to deliver on the federal aid but elected to unilaterally demand Shokin be fired. When the firing occurred, Shokin’s office was investigating Burisma Holdings, an energy firm that paid Hunter Biden a huge amount of money. The State Department had identified it as a corrupt company engaged in bribery. Recent testimony from Devon Archer, a business associate of Hunter Biden, revealed that Burisma executives made the removal of Shokin a top priority and raised it with Hunter.

He described how the need to neutralize Shokin was raised with Hunter and how “a call to Washington” was made in response. While Archer also said that “the narrative spun to me was that Shokin was under control,” he and others also heard concerns over Shokin and the risks of the investigation. President Biden has insisted, “I did nothing wrong. I carried out the policy of the United States government in rooting out corruption in Ukraine. And that’s what we should be focusing on.” Indeed, that will now be the focus, including the close correlation of the money and demands going to Hunter and the actions of his father. There is evidence the State Department was alarmed by Hunter’s work and its impact on anti-corruption efforts. While Joe was portraying his work as fighting corruption, some officials were warning the Bidens could be part of the problem, not the solution, in Ukraine.

Leading diplomat George Kent wrote then-Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, “The real issue to my mind was that someone in Washington needed to engage VP Biden quietly and say that his son Hunter’s presence on the Burisma board undercut the anti-corruption message the VP and we were advancing in Ukraine b/c Ukrainians heard one message from us and then saw another set of behavior with the family association with a known corrupt figure whose company was known for not playing by the rules.” As part of the first impeachment of Donald Trump, Democrats largely dismissed earlier accounts of these misgivings and portrayed Shokin as a thoroughly corrupt prosecutor perpetuating corruption. Biden’s Ukrainian Corn Pop story was celebrated as a gutsy moment of leadership.

During the impeachment, Kent said Biden’s demand was consistent with US policy. Yet we now know the State Department had found progress was being made on corruption and Shokin was praised in private correspondence. The demand for the replacement of the equivalent of the attorney general in another country is an extraordinary move. We give massive amounts of money to countries with rampant corruption and authoritarian records. But Biden decided Shokin had to go and used public money to make that happen.

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“We will fight back, and we will point out that they are making money off of this.”

Rand Paul On Return Of COVID Measures: “These People Have No Shame” (SN)

In response to reports of COVID restrictions, including social distancing and masking being reimplemented by colleges and offices, Senator Rand Paul asserted that those pushing the measures again “have no shame.” During a Fox News interview, Paul described the move as “hysteria” being pushed by the leftist media to financially benefit their corporate pharma owners. “These people are so conflicted,” Paul said, adding “It’s so dishonest to put people like that on the air to promote a product that they make more money from … promote this hysteria. This defies all logic. It defies science, and it defies common sense.” “To see this coming up again, these people have no shame,” Paul continued, pointing to Morris Brown College in Atlanta, a black private liberal arts college that has reinstated the measures as part of a “precautionary step.”

“That university that’s wanting to mask up and do all this testing — zero cases,” Paul urged, adding “But even worse than that, even when COVID was really more potent in 2020, the death rate for young, healthy people turned out to be close to zero.” “We don’t know for sure because the CDC won’t release it, but we do know that Germany released all of their data, and not one young, healthy person died. So, it’s a crime to mandate masks. It’s a crime to mandate vaccines, which do have some risks for young, healthy people,” Paul further noted. The Senator urged that Americans are “not going to lay down and take it again,”adding “there will be more resistance” this time. “We will fight back, and we will point out that they are making money off of this. These are not high-minded people. They are making money off of us and making money off of generating hysteria,” the Senator asserted.

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Easy to jump to conclusions..

Wagner Decries ‘Murder’ Of Prigozhin Amid Reports Missile Struck Plane (ZH)

The internet has exploded with an avalanche breaking reports that Wagner chief Yvgeny Prigozhin’s business jet has crashed over Russia’s Tver region, northwest of Moscow. Unconfirmed reports say anywhere from seven to ten people were on board, all presumed dead – but it was initially unclear if Prigozhin himself was on board at the time. Russian media sources are now confirming that he was on board the downed plane, and is presumed dead.
This has led to immediate speculation that the private plane could have been shot down upon Putin’s orders (or people in the military command placed a bomb?… or a sophisticated Western intel op?). Per FT’s Moscow correspondent: “Wagner-linked channels say Russian air defense *shot down the plane* – the same private jet Prigozhin regularly uses.”

The Kremlin has quickly issued confirmation that the aircraft did indeed belong to the controversial Wagner leader who led a mutiny against the defense ministry June 23-24. Per official news wires out of Russia

Russian official sources are confirming, including RT… KOMMERSANT: • PRIGOZHIN HAS DIED IN THE PLANE CRASH IN RUSSIA’S TVER, RUSSIA’S FEDERAL AIR TRANSPORT AGENCY SAYS. State news outlet RT writes in an update: “A private jet traveling from Moscow to St. Petersburg crashed on Wednesday in Russia’s Tver Region. The Russian Emergencies Ministry said all 10 people on board had died. Rosaviation has since said that Evgeny Prigozhin, the head of the Wagner Private Military Company, was listed among the passengers.” And additional statements are emerging: Former Putin advisor Sergei Markov: “The murder of Prigozhin is the main achievement of Ukraine and all enemies of Russia will rejoice” — Al Jazeera

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    Francesco Queirolo Il Disinganno, Naples, Sansevero Chapel 1753-1754   • Trump: “There’s A Level Of Passion… And Hatred I’ve Never Seen” (ZH) •
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 24 2023]


    I was right in 3 of 4 new BRICS members, Saudi, Iran, Argentina. But not Indonesia (275 million people), which was on my list. Also no Nigeria (215 million). But Ethiopia (120 million) and UAE (9.3 million) made it. Not easy to figure out motivations.

    Dr. D

    If you hadn’t caught it, everything is a lie. Weiss was not a Trump appointee, they just report it because it’s a lie. The kernel, which doesn’t even count this time, is that Cheeto didn’t actively replace him when he could have.

    DeSantis just keeps dropping, now firmly behind Ramaswamy. So all the political expense they took allowing him to look like a good guy in Florida apparently just means they lost. Allowed medical reality, took hits to not amputate children in school, all that. Now, when they arranged to have him knock out Trump on the Republican platform that isn’t so RINO, the people are aware from the first word and go around him. How’s that work? Fox has Koch brothers strategist in the “random” voter group so he can get air time puffing Ron.

    Authenticity is currency” boys. It’s something they wouldn’t understand. Now I don’t think Ron is in on this much, he’s just a previous-level politico. But they laid off him like a light switch a while ago, got him in the spotlight non-stop, then worked his ego about how great he is. As they got him to run, then inject moron RINO Leftist managers into his campaign and mostly surrounded by them. If you didn’t know, this is how they vote-rig too. The candidate must remain blissfully innocent of all the skullduggery, which is the job of the campaign manager to hire vote stuffers who fill their cars with ballots and get 100 votes per mailbox in apartment blocks like we saw last time. …All caught and all nothing happened to any of them. That’s what we pay campaign managers for, and why you can’t do without them as the OTHER guy has them too — you’ll never get elected without rigging in a rigged system.

    That’s why they can’t look at the vote btw and are “as of one mind” about it. Unless your IQ is 80, after a campaign or two, you’ve seen enough to grasp that’s what every campaign manager is doing. So why won’t Kemp look at wild, obvious, open voter in GA, or McConnell in KY? And every other Republican anywhere? Because they all got elected via vote rigging too, and always have. They’ll all be removed if anyone looks at Trump’s allegations, so they’re not going down, career ended, to save ol’ orange face. They’ll circle the wagons and defend fraud and crime to the death. Against every word and principle of the Republic. …And he knows it, of course, but perhaps not the level.

    That’s the point though: how can you have a McConnell, where his own people boo him in his own district? Because no one likes him, he was never voted in in the first place. As with Schiff, Pelosi, Feinstein… Because the selecting, not electing is done on the soft like this, that’s how an AOC can get it sometimes, in which case they dust off a 500-page, 200-year old playbook and capture her within 6 weeks and she gives Pelosi a tongue bath on camera, then votes pro-war.

    “Federal Judge Sides With Christian Activist Banned by University for Calling Transgender Student ‘Male’

    Again, if you’re not trans and I call you “Buttercup” and “Sissypants”, it’s all fine. Because SOME animals are more equal than others. We have a special, protected class. And if you’re very, very good and say just what we want you can be special too! That leaves only ONE group that isn’t protected…

    “During the Cold War, the CIA compromised some 400 American journalists under Operation Mockingbird.”

    Don’t be silly, that’s a conspiracy theory, which is why it’s in Wikipedia as true, official reality, citing open Congressional testimony under oath. Both. Neither. To have cognitive dissonance, you’d have to ‘cognate’.

    “Ukraine is failing in its offensive and they’re looking for somebody to blame instead of blaming themselves,”

    Look at what is not happening, the dog that didn’t bark. If Ukraine was a country, and if they believed in this, their grim resolve would be focused on how they can withstand and maintain their nation in the face of certain defeat and Russian occupation. That Ukraine, being eternal, can outlast them as they did under the USSR. And if they keep believing in God and the justice of their cause, they must prevail. …You know, like Ireland. Or if France were to be overrun, or America…

    But they’re running around like Pop Warner kids, or rather their sport parents, wondering who to blame. That means Ukraine is not a country, and doesn’t have a cause. How do you win then?

    It will be different.

    “American hegemony is in decline, and that a more multipolar world – in which Washington must treat “rising” powers like China as equals – is emerging.”

    Never forget this is also being fought for at home, they have a rebellion in the ranks here to end the US Empire and NeoCons. We’re not being passive actors of history we just couldn’t get the upper hand on them before.

    • Rand Paul on Return of COVID Measures: “These People Have No Shame” (SN)

    People finally noticing. ZERO CASES. = Mask mandates. WTF? And the few cases elsewhere, somebody had? Zero news on the death rate, so I assume it’s also Zero. So we’re locking down for a disease that isn’t here, and also doesn’t do anything, no one can even tell if you have it, including the ‘patient’. Because “authority” a huge % will still support it but…

    Prigozhin’s plane. Okay, here’s a hot dog vendor who made every general in NATO look like an idiot for a year, lost them the war, then his group’s very existence shut off $100B in French colonialism yesterday. Who’s your prime suspect? Okay, is this the WAY Putin would have killed him? Since the above, remember he can’t retire either, nor go anywhere, NATO will be whacking him worldwide, never rest. So the only way to call up Putin immediately, get the $6B from the Idiots at Langley, then move troops to Belarus a mile from Kiev while having a loyalty test that sends the others to Africa, and to live to enjoy your money, is to fake your death and retire to Ken Lay island.

    I’m not saying this DID happen, but this is spy stuff, keep your mind open. One key to me is CNN was all over it from the first moment. That only happens when they know beforehand because otherwise they need to stuff their heads up Langley’s *ss to get “Orders”. It takes +24h for them to release “The Memo” if they didn’t know it was happening.

    I don’t understand Maui. They shut off the water, and got the conditions right with the wind. So just have a $5k hitman use a box of matches, a cigarette butt, a mylar ballon in the power lines. It’s still all planned, all sanctioned by the State, but couldn’t be easier and you wouldn’t create all this.

    Okay, not saying that to be dumb, that’s an honest question. Why? Because the Derp State is losing like the losing losers who lose that they are. So they are talking to the White Hats saying “We still have this thing and are happy to use it, don’t F- with us.” For example. We’ve seen the White Hats stop things, like the rappelling down in downtown L.A. on Oscar night was one of them it seems. Several labs get in the news, Gate’s lab, the CA lab, not just Ukraine.

    But they’re Hydra, and you can’t know or stop all of them. In a war people get killed, don’t be a child. I don’t need to speculate on this or how, we know a wide variety of agreed-on facts, such as stealing the land and the Vegas police chief stopping evacuation that I’d rather explain first.

    The Spam filter is as Day describes it, it hits all the time but I have no problems to log out and back in again for years. The only stupid thing is it says “Add the two numbers. 7″ Add seven? Is it…seven?


    Pedo Joe is a Dog Faced Pony Fucker



    Shame, shame on You!


    I find this Putin hit idea – all over the internet, including Scott Ritter – hard to swallow. This isn’t The Godfather Part Four nor an episode of The Sopranos. The simple test is that anything the western MSM is saying is likely the opposite of the truth.

    They could have put Prigozhin and the traitors on trial two months ago. There is still Rule of Law in Russia(unlike the West). I’m disappointed that people so easily attribute Clinton ethics to Putin. Must be the Western Mind – even in the general population – to project our immoral behavior on others.


    Love that pony phony Joey!

    . Joe


    Prigozhin’s plane was thoroughly search before takeoff including dogs, nothing found.

    But then being who he was, a case of very expensive wine was loaded at the last minute after the security check

    A lot of people had ‘issues’ with this ‘late’ oligarch.

    The dozen or so Russian Air Force pilots Wagner killed during the ‘revolt’ had families and brothers in arms too.

    Shit Happens

    Just sayin’


    And what morning would be complete without the smell of a Burning Bradley

    The smell of Victory

    Russian FPV drone spanks the Empire of Lies Miliary Mafia

    Dr. D

    Weird cool things from the past: Did you know Joseph was like 30 years older than Mary? And apparently he won her in some weird Jewish sex (or in this case, marriage) lottery I don’t understand. So it was an “arranged” marriage, arranged by luck, which is weird since her mother Anne was right there and they were pretty well off. He was extremely quiet, extremely shy, extremely mild guy with no ambition and everyone picked on him, which explains how he wasn’t married with a Jewish mother at the age of 45.

    Anyway, you know what they say: older parents, church patriarchs, real mild “Spare the rod” types who think their-son-can-do-no-wrong: Well they have rebellious sons who act out, get in trouble with the law, and come to a bad end, that’s what.


    Bankers are paying/getting rich/pulling the strings?

    “… coup d’etat, (against democratically elected gov.), was carried out in that country, (Ukraine), and then a war was unleashed, (by Neo-Nazis), against those people, (who voted to leave Ukraine), who did not agree with that coup.”
    “This brutal war, a war of extermination, (depopulation), had lasted for eight years, (2014, Before Russia helped),”
    Putin emphasized.

    “There are many civilizations and development paths in the world, and this is how the world should be,” – Xi

    “BRICS countries should practice true multilateralism, uphold the UN-centered international system, support and strengthen the WTO-centered multilateral trading system, and reject the attempt to create small circles or exclusive blocs,”
    Xi said, calling for increased trade, financial, and development ties between the five-nation group.
    • Joe Biden’s Ukraine Defense Falls Apart (Turley)

    Corruption and interference.
    The demand for the replacement of the equivalent of the attorney general in another country is an extraordinary move.
    We give massive amounts of money to countries with rampant corruption and authoritarian records.
    But Biden decided Shokin had to go and used public money to make that happen.
    Need a bankers to move/transfer the money
    Listening to bankers
    Money talks louder.
    • Rand Paul On Return Of COVID Measures: “These People Have No Shame” (SN)

    This defies all logic.
    It defies science,
    and it defies common sense.”
    “To see this coming up again, these people have no shame,”

    Which bankers paid for this to happen?
    Update(1605ET): At this point it’s looking like the entire top command of Russian mercenary outfit Wagner Group was aboard the private plane that was downed northwest of Moscow hours ago. Wagner itself is confirming Yvgeny Prigozhin’s death, with Wagner-affiliated Telegram channel Grey Zone calling it a “murder”.

    “The murder/assassination of Prigozhin will have catastrophic consequences. The people who gave the order do not understand the mood in the army and morale at all. Let this be a lesson to all. You always have to go to the end,” the Wagner channel statement reads.


    There was a report on RT a few months ago where Lukashenko expressed worry about the build-up of Polish troops across the border from Belarus. He feared an invasion.

    Since then Russia has sited nuclear missiles in Belarus, moved Wagner troops there, and I think they declared that an attack on Belarus was an attack on Russia.

    Poland made the first move and Russia responded.

    This is what makes me suspicious of Prigozhin’s revolt. The end result was that Wagner troops ended up where Russia wanted them, it flushed out some quislings, and Prigozhin may have received CIA money.

    Against that is the story that the Wagner group downed several Russian fighters. This is slightly suspicious as Russian fighters do not seem so weak against MANPADs or their effect in Ukraine would be greatly reduced. I would like to know how much hard evidence exists.

    Prigozhin was not jailed and had at least one meeting with Putin afterwards. The Wagner group seems quite useful for Russia as it means they can put troops in countries where putting Russian military would be a problem.

    In short, I can’t see this being a hit by the Russian government.


    BRICS Officially Accepts UAE, KSA, Iran, Argentina, Egypt, Ethiopia as of Jan 1 2024

    A swift eye watering kick to the groin for the G7, Eurotardistan and the Empire of Lies Gangster Nation.

    Better put some on that Klaus, the swelling is gonna really hurt!


    From Andrei Martyanov

    Someone with a lot more contacts and expertise in Russian affairs than most talking heads

    Keep In Mind.

    When speaking about Prigozhin’s death. Two facts:

    1. Wagner’s “effectiveness” was primarily a figment of imagination and PR by… Prigozhin bought media. Wagner losses, especially among former prisoners of law, have been appalling.

    2. Bakhmut affair which was in effect a PR move by Wagner and their “council of commanders” which completely fucked up Russia’s MoD plans and forced it to support Wagner.

    Now, ask yourself a question, especially against the fact of Prigozhin and Wagner being in fact a totalitarian sect, which also started the mutiny–how much longer could this org be allowed to exist in any state, AND how many people had some serious accounts to settle with Prigozhin and his military enablers from this “council”.


    Everyone is working for death.
    If Wagner is mercenary for Russia then Ukrainians are mercenaries for USA/NATO.
    The paymasters are the forces of depopulations.

    John Day

    B R I I C S S U A E E is getting kind of cumbersome.
    Prigozhin had so many enemies. They might have cooperated a little bit. Nobody is claiming credit.
    Reminds me of somebody we all liked better…

    Carving that fishnet out of marble?! How many mess-up-start-overs?

    trying yet again really-not-spam


    If Ukraine win. It loses
    Their citizens will be suffering for a very long time as the whole country will be sold off and all income from lands/minerals/resources given away to foreign countries/investors/businesses to repay massive debts and trade deals.

    If Ukraine loses. It wins
    Russia wins and winner takes all which means NONE of the financed debts are repaid.

    D Benton Smith

    Prigozhin always had size 10 balls and a size 5 hat. He played his cards very well insofar as they served his own personal interests and won him a ton of money and powerful negotiating position, but he overplayed his hand when he got into a “me first & most” game with guys like Putin and Russian High Command, who placed RUSSIAN NATIONAL INTERESTS above personal interests in matters of existentially VITAL importance to the nation and its people.

    The Russian Federation is about to go no-holds-barred with the Collective West because Russia is about to take physical possession of Ukraine. Russia does not want to do that because of the storm such an act would create, but it is being forced by circumstances to do so anyway. Because if it DOESN’T take Ukraine then the Russian homeland will be attacked and annihilated by the Western Cabal (which has been explicitly relentless in clearly stating that is what they intend to do)

    The Western Cabal, on the other hand, can not survive the event of losing Ukraine, which has long been indispensably valuable to the Collective West in a number of indispensable ways, including (but not limited to), food, energy, minerals, geographically strategic position, money laundering, human trafficking and bio-weapons development.

    So, for the short-list of reasons as stated above, Russia SHALL take possession of Ukraine and a storm SHALL ensue as that occupation transpires. The only question remaining is about how rapidly or slowly that process takes place.

    Don’t be fooled into believing that there is some “faction” in Russia that doesn’t want that re-possession of Ukraine to happen. Baloney. There are only TWO factions in Russia. The hard-liners who want to get it over and done with quickly, and the soft-liners who want to do it more methodically, by means of economics and diplomacy within a firm structure of national and international Law (backed up by military force only when actually necessary to preserve the Motherland.)

    Priogozhin (secondary to being a self-serving oligarch) was decidedly a creature of the hardliners, but at the same time was totally not above playing footsies with CIA/NATO, and thought himself to be smart enough to play both ends against the middle (wrong on that one, boyo). Self serving betrayal and sharp dealing was his DNA, although it must be acknowledged that he WAS very brave, clever and good at what he did for a living, which was to WIN.

    A card as wild as Yevgeny Prigozhin can not be depended upon when a nation is about to escalate into unrestricted war with a firmly entrenched enemy who has revealed time and again that it will be satisfied by nothing less than your total extermination as a nation, people and culture.

    So, Prigozhin had to go. To be bluntly frank about it the only thing I personally lament about his death is that a human being had become so despicable that his total removal had become necessary so that far more loyal, fair and deserving people could live.

    In further good news, having now lost Prigozhin as their foil (and having received such a clear message about what happens to traitors in Russia) the hardliners must now take second seat to the softliners (led by Putin) who intend to bring this war to a more distant but VICTORIOUS close with less further loss of life, liberty and property.

    The end of this internecine conflict is just beginning, and yet already the Western Cabal is so desperately terrified of the inevitable conclusion (that they DO see coming, which is why they’re so intent on killing us before we can get our hands on them!) that it is using its previously hidden “ace-in-the-hole” high tech weaponry right out in full public view, in such a way that ordinary citizens with reasonably developed living skills have already figured out about half of it, and are openly talking about it all over the pace. I mean hard to believe super-toys like weather manipulation, targeted earth quake generation, directed energy weapons, a clunky sort of mass mind control (needs some bugs worked out), and desktop-designer-viruses. To name a few.

    The first thing about those malignant atrocities that needs to be pointed out, by the way, is that weapons are just “things”, and things can be defeated with other “things”, so weapons (no matter how “space opera” fancy they seem at first) are no kind of guarantee of victory in the medium to long run. When surprizing and unforseen new weapons are brought into play, defenders quickly design counter-measure “things” to nullify the weapon “thing’ and the game simply goes on developing from that point.

    And the second thing about such “weapons” is that they pretty useless in a REAL war. Their primary effectiveness are only as “Terror” weapons against defenseless civilian populations (who are not the actual warriors in a REAL war). They can be used as a threat to bully ill equipped leaders, but hurting civilians just pisses off the warriors and induces them to fight harder. It seldom determines strictly military outcomes in kinetic battles (the FIRST two atomic bombs being the rare exception.)

    Anyway, back to the point. The bad guys are scared so shitless that they are presently “un-secreting” their best and most secretest “secret weapons” by deploying them in full public view. I reckon that 80% of that population are not capable of believing their own eyes and go dormant, BUT roughly 5% that “public” are not quite that brain-dead and will recognize the threat immediately and go straight into designing and deploying counter-measures without skipping a beat.

    And the most important and effective of all possible counter-measures is to wake up as many of the 80% as possible to the awareness of what is going on all around them so that they come to their senses in time to engage in protecting themselves.

    Long story short: this story is going to get longer, not shorter.

    Shockingly surprising phenomena such as the liquidation of a traitor in the daylight sky above Moscow then indirectly triggering the use of heretofore “Above Top Secret” weapons systems to burn down a city in Hawaii, are going to become so commonplace that such events will barely garner attention. More and wilder are on the way.

    Few to none of those effected are going to have the time or luxury to “deep dive” much of it as events unfold at such an accelerating pace. There’s not enough time in the day, and even less luxury. There’s just too much, too fast, to keep up with and the cause-effect relationships between the lies, liars, schemes and atrocities will be so In-Your-Face-Obvious that “deep diving” won’t really be necessary anyway. It will just be too damned obvious who dunnit and why.

    Up until recently the lies and secrets regarding these attacks on humanity have been obsessively stringently “compartmentalized” and hidden so as to keep the “power-wielding” operations secret, and avoid corporate and personal legal liability in the event of exposure.

    Our job, therefore, is to “de-compartmentalize” those intricate lies and secrets and sufficiently explain the scams and consequences to the intended target victims so that they see what’s going on and stop contributing to it or supporting it through their compliance with the incessant orders to…. basically…. kill themselves.

    The best way forward that I can think of is to continue working hard to keep up with the facts as fast as we can, wise up as fast as we’re able, and to spread what we know to everyone who will listen. If some of it seems too “out there” or Woo for your personal acceptance level, then just drop back a notch or two and concentrate on whatever you DO recognize as true enough to be considered real.


    Died suddenly.


    First Covid deaths were fully vaccinated, Queensland Government records show


    Jeffrey Sachs Says Post-American World Has Begun

    Planting a Big Wet Kiss of Death

    on the Empire of Lies and it’s yappie little lap poodle Ukrotardistan

    Ah,ah,ah……no tongues!


    Let’s do a Vulcan Mind Meld with Ukronaziland and Covid

    Donbass Researchers Have Startling Findings About Pfizer Vaccines In Captured Biolabs

    Ever wonder what all those dozens of bio-lab were doing in Nazilenskyland?


    Interesting documents were found on the territory of the infamous PharmBiotTest biolab in Donbass showing the evidence of testing of Western COVID vaccines made by Pfizer and AstraZeneca on Ukrainians

    I already told you about this place ( before. The lab had close ties with pharma corporations from the EU and the US. A wide variety of drugs were tested here for a low fee. Fatal cases are known. Residents of Rubezhnoye and the area were just cheap biomaterial for Western pharma giants.

    The documents, as well as the testimony of prisoners of war, demonstrate that, among other things, vaccines from COVID-19 companies Pfizer and AstraZeneca were tested on Ukrainians.

    These drugs have a negative reputation due to severe side effects. Unfortunately, ordinary Ukrainians, with no other way to earn money, were among the first to be subjected to deadly experiments.

    Burn these monsters at the stake


    A New Pro-Trump Group Emerges

    Pedo Presidementia Joe is losing the black vote

    Veracious Poet

    The best way forward that I can think of is to continue working hard to keep up with the facts as fast as we can, wise up as fast as we’re able, and to spread what we know to everyone who will listen. If some of it seems too “out there” or Woo for your personal acceptance level, then just drop back a notch or two and concentrate on whatever you DO recognize as true enough to be considered real.

    DBS, do you really think the dumbed-down-to-succumb TikTok kiddos would/could spend the time necessary to read/comprehend/categorize enough blow-by-blow “facts” requisite to develop a cognizant position re: Info-Wars?

    What percentage would/could spend more than 15 seconds to peruse the ramblings of forumites on some backwater forum?

    Nah, the lost souls are FAR too busy playing video games, texting, running down their next “fix”, hypnotized by pron to even be bothered…

    In 1996, before the proliferation of the mind-suck of the WWW (followed up by “smart” phones), it was beyond obvious to me (while trying face-to-face) that The People would/could never wrap their half-wit minds around real reality; Seek the Spiritual Sanity to vitally needed to untangle the *con*, not when self-centered trances were all the rage 😐

    Now we have the syndicated nonstop UniParty/media bread & circuses persecution of Cheeto, an unfathomable malefaction that once-a-upon-a-time in “America” would/could have *never* been allowed to proliferate, the wet dream of gen pop leftists that are giddy like hood rats to witness a rich, white celeb get da beat down up by TPTB/TBTF “muscle”…

    I was wrong when I proclaimed “America” as The Empire Of The Child, in reality America in 2023 has morphed into The Empire Of The Hood Rats, where the status quo is There’s No Shame, Anything Goes 😐

    All hail Emperor Biden!!!

    Today KTLA ran this graphic for a story headline:

    Trump is surrendering for a fourth time this year. Here’s where all the cases against him stand:

    The hood rat mentality must have caught the attention of the word monkey’s bettahs, as I just noticed the incendiary pic got yanked off the story (now no graphic, just grayed out), along with this graphic in the “story”:

    A protester on the left, chants against a supporter of former President Donald Trump, right, near the Fulton County Jail, Thursday, Aug. 24, 2023, in Atlanta. (AP Photo/Brynn Anderson)

    Prolodyte word monkeys doing what they do best; Race baiting to shore up “their” base & smear their political opponent du jour (Orange Man Bad)…

    Roll out the monsters!!!

    The devolution of The People is *unraveling* faster than a street junkie nodding off after unleashing the belt ~ Next stop, *major* BREAKAGE of critical *civil* infrastructure.

    Get ready for The Purge




    Veracious Poet

    Closing the barn door after zombies have eaten all your livestock…

    IN-DEPTH: States Unite to Protect Minors From Brain-Altering Pornography:

    Graphic, violent, deviant, and harmful online pornography that can permanently affect brain development can be easily accessed by children.

    And the federal government is doing little to stop it, experts and lawmakers told The Epoch Times.

    Although showing pornography to children is illegal under federal law, federal rules don’t require porn websites to verify the age of users.

    But recently, bipartisan efforts in state legislatures have intervened to protect children in a handful of states.

    It’s important—and urgent—because watching violent porn damages children, therapist Jon Uhler and psychologist Amy Sousa told The Epoch Times.

    It takes a WWW village ~ Billary

    Semper Fi my ganstas ~ Prez O!

    God help the innocent.

    Veracious Poet

    Y’all keep on hammering out the epitaph for Western Civ, someone’s gotta do it 😉

    John Day

    Here is something from Real Raw News about “white hats” arresting FEMA on Maui. (Real or Fake?)
    Marines Arrest 67 Maui Perpetrators
    As the August 8 inferno scorched the tropical landscape and residents and tourists sought guidance from island officials, Maui’s top emergency management official, Herman Andaya, had only one key responsibility: sound the island’s 80-siren alarm system, a blaring klaxon that would have encouraged confused and injured islanders to at once flee the fire-ravaged areas. He could have triggered the warning from any of the island’s civil defense shelters or with a single phone call. But while Lahaina burned, Andaya was 100 miles away in Honolulu, where he and FEMA Mission Support Associate Administrator Eric Lecky enjoyed poached swordfish and pricey alcohol—as if to celebrate a victory—at Blue Ocean Seafood & Steak.
    That repast would be among their last as free men.
    United States Marines under Gen. Smith’s command arrested Andaya Tuesday on treason charges, days after he resigned amid public criticism for not sounding the alarm. Andaya defended his decision by saying he feared the public would mistake the siren for a tsunami warning.
    Andaya was apprehended at Dillinger Airfield on the northwest tip of Oahu while awaiting the arrival of a Cessna 310 to ferry him to Kaui for unknown reasons. He reportedly tried to abscond on foot but was quickly subdued and arrested.
    According to our source, White Hats have videos showing Andya and Lecky meeting in Lahaina on August 6, two days before the blaze. Real Raw News reported previously that hundreds of FEMA personnel began arriving in Honolulu on that date, suggesting the diabolical agency knew that parts of Maui would soon be set ablaze.
    “The footage is definitive. It shows Andaya giving Eric Lecky a tour of Lahaina and advising him where to set up barricades to keep citizens trapped in what would become the disaster zone. Most of what we have comes from citizens who escaped FEMA’s blockade,” our source said.
    Lecky, he added, was apprehended Tuesday night outside the Grand Wailea Astoria Hotel, where he and 65 subordinates were enjoying a taxpayer­-funded vacation in $1000/night hotel suites and boozing it up at expensive bars far from the charred remnants of their hellish handiwork.
    FEMA, our source said, had commandeered several luxury hotels and evicted legitimate guests to make room for what seemed like a never-ending stream of armed agents, many of whom shed their uniforms, disguising themselves as beach-going tourists, once word spread that United States Marines captured Lecky in the parking garage.
    The Marines, though, had photographs of each FEMA employee to have arrived in Maui since August 6 and were able to identify and catch 65 federal goons trying to flee the hotel by every available exit and crevice. Marines suffered no casualties, though several FEMA sustained superficial injuries resisting arrest.
    Marines, our source said, are determined to incarcerate or otherwise deal with all agents still on the Hawaiian Islands.
    “We know at one time FEMA had 2,500 in Maui. Some we got, a lot were killed in action as enemy combatants, and a bunch escaped on airplanes back to the continental U.S. There’s still plenty more there, and they know they’re being hunted,” our source said.
    In closing, our source confirmed that Armed Forces loyal to the criminal Biden regime have arrived in Maui to support FEMA.
    “This is a bad development, and it seems inevitable that more bloodshed will follow.”

    Marines Arrest 67 Maui Perpetrators

    John Day

    ​ The above story, held in abeyance, seems to refer to this context of an annual FEMA meeting on Oahu.
    ​ Maui fire investigation: Maui’s top emergency officials were on a different island for a disaster training as flames flared and did not join response call until five hours after the deadly wildfires begun
    ​ The annual FEMA disaster meeting was held on August 8 in Waikiki Beach, Honolulu, on the island of Oahu – a 30 minute flight from Maui
    While Hawaii’s top emergency coordinators were meeting, wildfires were breaking out in Maui, with the Upcountry Fire reported around midnight
    Lahaina’s fire flared up later in the morning: a school was evacuated at 6:40am and it was declared contained by 9am – only for evacuations to begin at 3:30pm
    ​..’There were consultations about the fires among local, state and FEMA participants,’ said FEMA spokesperson John Mills.
    ​ It was unclear when the Maui officials made the decision to return home and deal with the disaster, or who was in charge when the fires broke out.
    ​ Those attending the conference included Herman Andaya, the then-director of Maui County Emergency Management Agency, who defended the decision not to activate emergency warnings.
    Andaya resigned on August 17, nine days after the wildfires, citing his health.
    It had emerged he had no background in disaster response: Local news site Maui Now reported in 2017 that he was hired over 40 other qualified applicants.
    ​ Also at the conference was Major General Kenneth Hara, director of the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency (HIEMA); James Barros, administrator for HIEMA; and Don Aweau, executive officer for HIEMA.

    D Benton Smith


    John Adams famously said that the American Colonists were roughly divided into even thirds of staunch Royalists, staunch Patriots and determinedly neutral. Later serious studies show him to be more than a little bit optimistic about that. Real numbers were more like 20% Patriot, of whom only a small portion did anything substantial about it, and a very small fraction of that actually took up arms.

    Over the 7 year course of the war eventually 231,000 men served in the Continental Armed forces, though never more than 48,000 at any one time, and never more than 13,000 at any one place. Most official estimates place the percentage of participatory patriots at 3% . . . but THAT is over the course of the entire 7 years, including the end (when we were winning). At the START however (1776) it was a mere 27,000 who stood up and said “I will” when invited to the dance. Out of a population of just under 3 million at the time that pencils out to a rather unimpressive three quarters of one percent. The Brits must have been shaking in their jack boots.

    The fact is, the vast majority of any population are either too young, too old, or too engaged in the birthing and raising of children or other necessary tasks to engage in that kind of fight. Of the remainder not all are cut out to be either warriors, nor scholars, and that’s probably a good thing because there are many other vital works to be done. In any case, I am not a qualified judge of whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing. It’s just THE thing.

    Personally I find it more than a little offensive to listen to carping non productive denigration of the victims of foul play, when the helpful and more beneficial action would be either to inform them into a better state of mind or fight on their behalf so as to go back and help them recover later, or both.

    If our younger generations have been decimated by evil then whose fault is that? Certainly not the children.

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