Jun 242025
 


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If Israel Holds Fire, So Will Iran: Fighting ‘Until The Very Last Minute’ (ZH)
Rope-a-Dope Warfighting Strategy (Helmer)
The Key Nuclear Allegation That Started The War (Alastair Crooke)
Hollywood Seeded Iran War Narrative For Years – Wikileaks (RT)
The West’s Four Main Lies About Iran and Israel (Jay)
No Justification For Attack On Iran – Putin (RT)
Boom (James Howard Kunstler)
War On Iran Is Fight For US Unipolar Control Of World (Michael Hudson)
‘No Military Solutions’ to Israel–Iran Crisis – Egypt (RT)
Moscow Warns of Deepfake ‘Informational Barbarism’ (RT)
Why the Public Needs Answers on Biden’s Alleged Incapacity (Turley)
Zelensky Has A Nazi Problem. He Can’t Lie His Way Out Of It (Amar)
Green Agenda Is Killing Europe’s Ancestry (Constantin Von Hoffmeister)
Supreme Court Hands Trump Huge Win On Deporting ‘Worst’ Illegals (ZH)

 

 

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The first hours of the Trump-induced ceasefire have been confusing. But expect Trump to put his foot down, until he can’t. And then if he can blame Iran.

If Israel Holds Fire, So Will Iran: Fighting ‘Until The Very Last Minute’ (ZH)

Update(2200ET): The ceasefire is going to be shaky and likely difficult to maintain given that right up until the very moment it is to go into effect Tehran was on the receiving end of very intense Israeli warplane attacks. And Iran’s Foreign Minister too said Iran hit back overnight: “The military operations of our powerful Armed Forces to punish Israel for its aggression continued until the very last minute, at 4am. Together with all Iranians, I thank our brave Armed Forces who remain ready to defend our dear country until their last drop of blood, and who responded to any attack by the enemy until the very last minute,” said FM Araghchi on X. IRANIAN TELEVISION: ISRAEL ASSASSINATED NUCLEAR SCIENTIST MOHAMMAD REZA SIDDIQI IN ITS RECENT ATTACKS But shortly before that above latest statement, there was this by the top Iranian diplomat:

It’s anything but certain whether it will hold, but likely the White House is putting pressure on Tel Aviv to at least play nice for now, so Trump can take his ‘victory lap’ and declare mission accomplished. And yet, the status of Iran’s uranium enrichment stockpile is unknown. The status of the ceasefire itself may not become clear until the daylight hours…

Update: Fox is reporting, “President Trump spoke with Qatar’s Emir and informed him the U.S. got Israel to agree to a ceasefire with Iran. The President asked Qatar to help persuade Iran to do the same, following that Vice President Vance coordinated with Qatar’s Prime Minister on the details. This effort proved successful and, following discussions with the Qatari PM, the Iranians agreed. The deal was coordinated at the highest level by the President and Vice President and the Qatari Emir and Prime minister directly.” “Despite having been attacked just hours earlier, the Qataris set aside their grievances and prioritized regional security to get the deal done,” this source added. Reuters is reporting that Iran has agreed to the ceasefire, which at the very least will provide a respite to the tit-for-tat missiles. More from Reuters:

• Qatar Brokered Iran’s Ceasefire Deal After U.S. Request
• Qatari PM secured Tehran’s approval following Trump’s outreach to Emir after Iran’s strike on U.S. base.
• Doha played key role in halting Israel-Iran conflict
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Update: Shortly after 6pm, futures jumped and oil slumped even more in one of its biggest intraday reversals on record, after Trump announced on his Truth Social account that Iran and Israel had “fully agreed” to a “Complete and Total ceasefire” which will takes place at approximately midnight ET, “when Israel and Iran have wound down and completed their in progress, final missions”, and will last for 12 hours, at which time Trump says that “War will be considered, ENDED!”

The president adds that “on the assumption that everything works as it should, which it will, I would like to congratulate both Countries, Israel and Iran, on having the Stamina, Courage, and Intelligence to end, what should be called, “THE 12 DAY WAR.” This is a War that could have gone on for years, and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn’t, and never will! God bless Israel, God bless Iran, God bless the Middle East, God bless the United States of America, and GOD BLESS THE WORLD!”

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“We may forget the words of our enemies, but never the silence of our friends..”

Rope-a-Dope Warfighting Strategy (Helmer)

When Muhammad Ali famously demonstrated the rope-a-dope strategy in the Zaire title bout against George Forman in October 1974, he allowed Foreman to start attacking him against the ropes in Round 3. By Round 7 Foreman had exhausted his punching strength. In Round 8, Foreman dropped his guard, and Ali counterattacked with a combination of punches which knocked Foreman out. Watch carefully how it was done in seven punches, eight seconds. According to General Daniel Caine, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the US has knocked out Iran’s nuclear enrichment and nuclear weapon preparation plants with “extremely severe destruction”; “completely and totally”, according to President Donald Trump.

The punches were delivered by “tactical surprise”, Caine has announced, with a “deception effort known only to an extremely small number of planners and key leaders here in Washington.” He said the “strike packages” comprised more than 125 aircraft and one submarine. They fired 16 GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) bombs, more than 24 Tomahawk missiles, and a total of 75 precision-guided weapons at three land targets – Fordow, Natanz, and Isfahan. According to Caine’s report, no Iranian shot was fired against the US attackers as they flew on to these targets nor “on the way out.” Instead, “decoys” and “preemptive suppressing fires” were launched. “Iran’s fighters did not fly,” Caine claims, “and it appears that Iran’s surface-to-air missile systems did not see us. Throughout the mission we retained the element of surprise.”

The entire operation took 25 minutes. That’s the equivalent in the boxing ring of seven rounds. Iran reports the US had telegraphed its punches with advance notice that the bombing raid would be restricted to the three land targets. Knocking out the Iranian leadership, including military and civilian leaders, plus Ayatollah Ali Kamenei, has been denied by Vice President JD Vance, then reasserted by Trump. “No other military in the world,” said Caine, “could have done this.”

Iran has not acknowledged that rope-a-dope is its warfighting strategy. As Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi prepares for his meetings on Monday with Russian officials, including President Vladimir Putin, the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) has issued a warning to Russia and China that they are failing to do enough to meet longstanding assistance promises and treaty obligations. “We may forget the words of our enemies, but never the silence of our friends,” the IRGC media platform Sepahi News has announced just after midnight on Monday morning (June 23). “After going through this sensitive situation, there will undoubtedly be a serious review of relations with some countries.” The text was accompanied by a picture of Putin and China’s President Xi Jinping together at a ceremony shaking hands.

The former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, spokesman for the Security Council, has issued a personal declaration supporting Iran’s war against both the US and Israel, and implying not only that Israel is losing the war, but also there is Kremlin backing for the Iranian nuclear weapons programme. “The critical infrastructure of the nuclear cycle appears not to have been damaged or even slightly affected. The enrichment of nuclear materials, and now we can say it, the future production of nuclear weapons, will continue. A number of countries are ready to directly supply Iran with their nuclear ammunition. Israel is under attack — thundering explosions, people in panic. The United States is drawn into a new conflict with the prospect of a ground operation. The Iranian political regime has been preserved, and with a high degree of probability it has become stronger.”

“With such successes,” added Medvedev for the General Staff and intelligence services, “[we don’t see] Trump [winning] the Nobel Peace Prize, despite the utter venality of this nomination. Good start — congratulations, Mr. President!” This is Russian for rope-a-dope.

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“..was coaxed from a Palantir counter-intelligence algorithm..”

The Key Nuclear Allegation That Started The War (Alastair Crooke)

The sudden claim of Iran being very close to a bomb (that seemingly jumped out of ‘nowhere’ to leave Americans puzzling how could it happen that – in the blink of eye, we are going to war – was subsequently refuted by IAEA Chief Grossi to CNN on 17 June (but only after the abrupt attack on Iran already had taken place): “We did not have any evidence of a systematic effort [by Iran] to move to a nuclear weapon”, Grossi confirmed on CNN. This statement drew the following riposte from Iran by its Foreign Ministry Spokesman, Esmaeil Baqaei on 19 June: “This is too late, Mr. Grossi – you obscured this truth in your absolutely biased report that was instrumentalized by E3/U.S. to craft a resolution with baseless allegation of [Iranian] ‘non-compliance’; the same resolution was then utilized, as a final pretext, by a genocidal warmongering regime to wage a war of aggression on Iran and to launch an unlawful attack on our peaceful nuclear facilities. Do you know how many innocent Iranians have been killed/maimed as a result of this criminal war? You turned IAEA into a tool of convenience for non-NPT members to deprive NPT members of their basic right under Article 4. Any clear conscience?!”.

To which Dr Ali Larijani, Advisor to the Supreme Leader, added: “When the war ends, we will hold the director of the IAEA, Rafael Grossi, accountable”. What they are saying: The Russian Foreign Ministry’s Statement, in relation to the escalation of the Iranian-Israeli conflict – “It was precisely these “sympathisers” [EU3] who exerted pressure on the leadership of the [IAEA] Agency to prepare a controversial “comprehensive assessment” of Iran’s nuclear programme, the flaws of which were subsequently exploited to push through a biased anti-Iran resolution at the IAEA Board of Governors on 12 June [2025]. This resolution effectively provided a green light to actions by West Jerusalem, leading to tragedy” [i.e. to the sneak attack on the immediate day after, 13 June].

Behind the scenes: The underpinnings to the 12 June 2025 IAEA Resolution – giving pretext for Israel to strike Iran (and crafted to sway President Trump to dismiss his own Director of National Intelligence’s warnings that there was no evidence of Iran moving towards weaponisation) – reportedly were drawn not from Mossad or other western intelligence services, but from IAEA software. As DD Geo-politics outlines, since 2015, the IAEA has relied on Palantir’s Mosaic platform, a $50-million AI system that sifts through millions of data points – satellite imagery, social media, personnel logs – to predict nuclear threats:

“Iran’s stockpile [of enriched uranium] had been growing steadily for months—yet the narrative of an imminent breakthrough surged only after the IAEA’s censure on June 6, 2025. That resolution, adopted 19–3, provided Israel the diplomatic cover it needed. Palantir’s Mosaic platform played a critical role in this pivot. Its data shaped the May 31 report, flagging anomalies at Fordow and Lavisan-Shian, and recycling prior allegations from Turquzabad—despite years-old Iranian denials and sabotage … Mosaic was conceived originally to identify insurgent activity in Iraq and Afghanistan”.

Its algorithm looks to identify and infer ‘hostile intent’ from indirect indicators – metadata, behavioral patterns, signal traffic – not from confirmed evidence. In other words, it postulates what suspects may be thinking, or planning. On 12 June, Iran leaked documents, which it claimed showed IAEA chief Rafael Grossi sharing Mosaic outputs with Israel. By 2018, Mosaic had processed more than 400 million discrete data objects and had helped impute suspicion to over 60 Iranian sites such as to justify unannounced IAEA inspections of those sites, under the JCPOA. These outputs, though dependent largely on the algorithmic equations, were incorporated into formal IAEA safeguard reports and were widely accepted by UN member states and non-proliferation regimes as credible, evidence-based assessments. Mosaic however is not a passive system. It is trained to infer from its algorithm hostile intent, but when repurposed for nuclear oversight, its equations risk translating simple correlation into malicious intent.

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“Assange recalled that the opening scene depicts Iranian scientists in Tehran assembling a bomb, with one character stating that the device could be operational within six months. “How is it that such a lie got into a script about Wikileaks?” Assange asked..”

Hollywood Seeded Iran War Narrative For Years – Wikileaks (RT)

Screenwriters in Hollywood who “say they are Jewish” have been planting pro-war narratives about Iran in mainstream entertainment for more than a decade, Wikileaks has claimed. Israel launched airstrikes on Iran earlier this month, claiming Tehran was close to creating a nuclear weapon. Over the weekend, the US also directly joined the conflict by bombing Iranian nuclear facilities.In a post on X on Sunday, Wikileaks stated that Hollywood writers “who say they are Jewish” have been “planting the mental seeds for war with Iran for years,” citing productions such as Top Gun: Maverick, Homeland, 24, and The Fifth Estate. The group shared a clip of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange’s speech at Oxford Union from 2013. In the video, he discussed The Fifth Estate – a biographical drama about Wikileaks – which opens with a side plot about a fictional Iranian nuclear bomb project.

Assange recalled that the opening scene depicts Iranian scientists in Tehran assembling a bomb, with one character stating that the device could be operational within six months. “How is it that such a lie got into a script about Wikileaks?” Assange asked, noting that at the time, 16 US intelligence agencies had already found that Tehran did not have a nuclear weapons program. “It is an attack against Iran,” Assange said, claiming that the scene “fans the flames to start a war with Iran” and served the interests of the “people in the system that want the war.” Prior to Israel’s latest strikes, both the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) and US intelligence agencies stated there was no evidence of an Iranian nuclear weapons program. Nevertheless, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has continued to insist that Tehran was on the brink of creating a bomb – a claim he has repeated for decades.

At the UN General Assembly in 2012, he infamously used a cartoon bomb illustration to warn that Iran was “months away” from a nuclear weapon, and made comparable statements throughout the 1990s and 2000s. Israel’s attack has drawn international condemnation, including from Russia, which has said the strikes were illegal. Russian President Vladimir Putin has called the operation “an unprovoked aggression.”US involvement in Israel’s campaign has also drawn criticism, with Moscow comparing it to the lead-up to the 2003 Iraq War, which was started over false claims of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.US President Donald Trump’s decision to strike Iran has also met pushback from inside the White House. According to Reuters, Vice President J.D. Vance – an Iraq War veteran – opposed joining the Israeli offensive and warned during internal discussions that Israel was dragging the US into another war.

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“Most of what we see on Sky News and BBC is packaged by the IDF’s media department whose main job is to distort the realities on the ground.”

The West’s Four Main Lies About Iran and Israel (Jay)

The Iran talks in Geneva with EU foreign ministers started and yet few, if any, Middle East pundits could have predicted the outcome of Trump’s bunker buster bombs on nuclear sites in Iran. Until he did this, one could argue, that was is scope still for a deal with the Iranians which would either completely stop their enriched uranium program or, at the very least, have it run by weapons inspectors of the UN and perhaps even a western company reporting directly to the Americans. That at least must have been the thinking. And yet this is the biggest miscalculation as it is impossible now for the Iranians to ever think about a deal. Was the deal genuine in the first place, many will ask.

This may seem far-fetched but so far it’s important to remember that most of what we read in western media is absolute garbage cultivated by Israel’s fake news operation which more or less provides all the data and so-called victories each day to Sky News, leaving the man in the street misinformed at best. Trump’s two-week deadline was of course stupid and was never going to be respected and was just a ruse to trick the Iranians. Yet here are the four main lies which western media pump out on a daily basis to support Israel and the Americans.Israel has made huge progress with its military campaign at controlling Iran. This is really not true at all. If they had and we are to believe Trump’s claims of having total air dominancy why pause at this point for peace talks?

Most of what we see on Sky News and BBC is packaged by the IDF’s media department whose main job is to distort the realities on the ground. While the F35 jets Israel used made great progress in their campaign they have lost at least three with the pilots held by Iran. Little is reported of this by western media. In addition, there is no credible reporting whatsoever on Iran’s victories inside Israel as many outlets simply miss it out entirely when giving their big screen presentations. It is inconceivable that Iran has not hit some military installations which would explain why all of Israel’s aircraft are out of the country. While it is true that the first strike by Israel had a huge impact, especially by killing top commanders, Iran soon recovered and got on with the job at hand.

It would take a massive operation of perhaps up to 2 million soldiers on the ground to even contemplate taking over the country. Iran is not Iraq. While Israeli jets continue to destroy a number of installations, some of whom were decoys mocked up by the Iranians, the destruction by Iran in Israel can’t go on at its present rate, which explains why Israel agreed to the talks as they hope it might lead to Iran pulling back. Iran doesn’t need to win the war. It just needs to bleed Israel of its resources.

Iran has a nuclear bomb or is in the process of making one. This is perhaps the biggest lie of all and has even been debunked by America’s own director of national intelligence, which of course Trump refuses to accept. We’re now repeating history of U.S. wars started by total bullshit – Iraq, Afghanistan going right back to the Vietnam war where a missile strike against a U.S. warship was faked to justify going in. The U.S. even claimed that Gadaffi had WMDs all proved to be wrong. Trump will go ahead with bombing if he doesn’t get a deal. In the event, this is what happened, or so it would seem by western media accounts. But we should not rush to conclusions as there is a distinct possibility that Trump has bluffed the Israelis, the Iranians and even the American people.

Did he really go ahead with the bunker buster strikes as it is presented to us by media? Did he get informed by his own intel people that the Iranians were about to shift the centrifuges out of those sites? Or had already done so. In this scenario, the hasty bombing scores a number of points for him as he comes out a winner in the short term on all sides even though he was forced to do it to save face. The pressure is now on him and Netanyahu who could both end up with egg on their faces in the coming days as Iran chokes the Persian Gulf shipping and looks for soft targets in the region. Trump does not like to take big decisions which he knows he can’t change at the drop of a hat so the bombing of the nuclear sites should be interpreted not as an easy decision but more of a last resort.

His own Pentagon goons must have told him “it’s damn easy to start a war with Iran, but getting out of one will be tough”. Also, the strategy of bombing the underground nuclear facilities may well come with some blowback which he has miscalculated. What does Israel and the U.S. do after they have done this? Will Iran wheel out the bigger, heavier rockets which they have been saving until now and obliterate Israel? Will they strike U.S. allies in the region and even U.S. forces? Pushed to this extreme it is likely they will do all this and block the Straits of Hormuz. Does Trump want a full on war with Iran? Netanyahu would certainly welcome it with the U.S. involved at the highest level, but Trump does not.

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“..the visit was needed for “closer, more precise, and more serious consultations” with Russia..”

No Justification For Attack On Iran – Putin (RT)

Israeli and US hostilities against Iran are groundless and unjustifiable, Russian President Vladimir Putin has told Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi in an expression of support. Araghchi, who landed in Moscow on Monday, said earlier that the visit was needed for “closer, more precise, and more serious consultations” with Russia in the wake of the US strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities this past weekend. During the meeting at the Kremlin, Putin described the attacks on Iran as “an unprovoked aggression,” for which “there can be no justification.” The actions of Israel and the US are “illegitimate” and violate international norms, he added.

The Russian leader noted that he was glad to see Araghchi in Moscow, saying that his visit would allow Russia and Iran “to discuss these pressing issues and jointly think about a way out of the current situation.” Araghchi agreed with Putin’s assessment, saying that “Russia today stands on the right side of history and international law.” By striking targets in Israel, Iran is defending its sovereignty in a legitimate way, the diplomat stressed. Israel and the US explained their attacks on Iran by claiming that Tehran was on the brink of obtaining a nuclear weapon. The Iranian authorities have repeatedly insisted that that they are not working on a bomb, while defending their right to pursue a peaceful nuclear program.

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Jim likes Trump’s original story.

“In eight days, the United States and Israel eliminated Iran’s nuclear capabilities with minimal civilian casualties. One of the greatest military achievements ever.” — Bill Ackman

Boom (James Howard Kunstler)

Of course, you must expect a whole lot of deranged thinking after the USA’s Saturday night “Massive Ordnance Penetrator” (MOP) attack on Iran’s three nuke sites — because derangement drives the spirit of our time in Western Civ. France, Germany, the UK, Sweden still can’t wrap their brains around the jihad they have fecklessly invited inside their countries — and they prosecute anyone who suggests as much. Over here, the Oregon state legislature brought in drag-queens to entertain members in the chamber . . .California taxpayers subsidize the riots in LA . . . a federal judge orders Kilmar Abrego Garcia released from custody . . . AOC endorses a Muslim lunatic for mayor in New York. . . . So it goes. For all that, often the simplest explanation is the correct one. Of the MOP attack on Iran, Secretary of State Rubio said, “They had all the pieces in place to have a nuclear weapon. . . now, not so much.”

Mr. Rubio’s Sunday chat with Maria Bartiromo is well worth a listen for clarity. He also succinctly stated, “They [Iran] are the sole source of instability in the entire Middle East, and the world has been paying a price for this for forty-something years.” Yet, the American hive-mind is aflame with histrionic hypotheticals over Iran, driven by the same prevailing anxiety that infects the illegal alien issue, lawfare, sexual insanity, our role in the Ukraine fiasco. The leitmotif lately is the popular idea that Israel controls the US like a puppeteer and that the Jews are out to rule the world. Yes, the shrill charge of “Zionism” boils down to that. (Just look at the comment section of this blog.) There is, necessarily, uncertainty about the result of our MOP strikes. We will not be sending troops in to inspect Fordo, Natanz, and Isfahan.

Iran had time, while jerking-around American diplomats, to move its stockpile of 60-percent enriched uranium (if that’s what it was). But they no longer have the facilities to do anything with it, or the top scientists to run the program, and if they attempt to restart all of that, the US will have the option to take them out again. So, you can stop the handwringing over that. Another popular rumor in circulation is that the MOAB mission was a charade, just a show that Mr. Trump put on to satisfy his ego. That assumes everybody in the chain-of-command was duped, a low-percentage supposition. How is it unclear that the president is not messing around? The main message is “No nukes for Iran.”

There was, apparently, some part of that simple proposition the mullahs did not understand. Perhaps the Iranian people understand that the mullahs are not fit to govern their country. It looks like we’ll find out soon enough. Meanwhile propaganda-central keeps trying to steer the hive-mind back onto RussiaRussiaRussia, and onto Mr. Putin especially. CBS’s 60 Minutes re-worked an old segment last night on Putin opposition leader Alexei Navalny, who died in prison last year at 47 under curious circumstances. I doubt we know the whole story, and CBS surely did not try to present it. But the main purpose was to call Mr. Putin names — thief, murderer, tyrant — and the reason for that was also clear and simple: to derail Mr. Trump’s efforts to normalize relations with Russia.

That effort is a cornerstone of Mr. Trump’s campaign to re-arrange trade relations in such a way that our country can become productive again, employing its citizens in a purposeful way. It happens to imply an end to the Ukraine war, which the Obama State Department and the CIA set the groundwork for in 2014. Ending this war is not in the interest of a certain Beltway blob that thrives on creaming-off the weapons industry. Their schemes require Russia to remain an enemy of the US, a wholly engineered idiocy that media outfits like CBS promote. Viewed through a wider lens, the MOP mission was also intended as a message to China. It is a simple and straightforward message: Expect that Mr. Trump means what he says when he says it. He is not messing around.

China has been messing around with us to a stunning degree, especially during the past four years of the phantom president “Joe Biden.” China has infiltrated every critical corner of American life: our government, our universities, our medical research, our computer tech sector, our finances, Hollywood, our news media, our critical infrastructure, you name it. China has been waging war on us in every way except troops and kinetics. Mr. Trump seeks to end all these operations, without coming to blows. That is, he is trying to find a path to what used to be quaintly called peaceful coexistence. If there’s a reason that the political Left in America can’t get behind that simple idea, it might be because the CCP is too deeply mixed up in Democratic Party politics. Their intentions intersect: to bring chaos to America.

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“..the war in Iran likewise has as an aim blocking trade with China and Russia and countering moves away from the U.S.-centered neoliberal order..”

War On Iran Is Fight For US Unipolar Control Of World (Michael Hudson)

Opponents of the war with Iran say that the war is not in American interests, seeing that Iran does not pose any visible threat to the United States. This appeal to reason misses the neoconservative logic that has guided U.S. foreign policy for more than a half century, and which is now threatening to engulf the Middle East in the most violent war since Korea. That logic is so aggressive, so repugnant to most people, so much in violation of the basic principles of international law, the United Nations, and the U.S. Constitution, that there is an understandable shyness in the authors of this strategy to spell out what is at stake. What is at stake is the U.S. attempt to control the Middle East and its oil as a buttress of U.S. economic power, and to prevent other countries from moving to create their own autonomy from the U.S.-centered neoliberal order administered by the IMF, World Bank, and other institutions to reinforce U.S. unipolar power.

The 1970s saw much discussion about creating a New International Economic Order (NIEO). U.S. strategists saw this as a threat, and since my book Super Imperialism ironically was used as something like a textbook by the government, I was invited to comment on how I thought countries would break away from U.S. control. I was working at the Hudson Institute with Herman Kahn, and in 1974 or 1975, he brought me to sit in on a military strategy discussion of plans being made already at that time to possibly overthrow Iran and break it up into ethnic parts. Herman found the weakest spot to be Baluchistan, on Iran’s border with Pakistan. The Kurds, Tajiks, and Turkic Azeris were others whose ethnicities were to be played off against each other, giving U.S. diplomacy a key potential client dictatorship to reshape both Iranian and Pakistani political orientation if need be.

Three decades later, in 2003, General Wesley Clark pointed to Iran as being the capstone of seven countries that the United States needed to control in order to dominate the Middle East, starting with Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, and Sudan, culminating in Iran. Most of today’s discussion of the geopolitical dynamics of how the international economy is changing is understandably (and rightly) focusing on the attempt by BRICS and other countries to escape from U.S. control by de-dollarizing their trade and investment. But the most active dynamic presently reshaping the international economy has been the attempts of Donald Trump’s whirlwind presidency since January to lock other countries into a U.S.-centered economy, by agreeing not to focus their trade and investment on China and other states seeking autonomy from U.S. control. (Trade with Russia is already heavily sanctioned.)

As will be described below, the war in Iran likewise has as an aim blocking trade with China and Russia and countering moves away from the U.S.-centered neoliberal order. Trump, hoping in his own self-defeating way to rebuild U.S. industry, expected that countries would respond to his threat to create tariff chaos by reaching an agreement with America not to trade with China, and indeed to accept U.S. trade and financial sanctions against it, Russia, Iran, and other countries deemed to be a threat to the unipolar U.S. global order. Maintaining that order is the U.S. objective in its current fight with Iran, as well as its fights with Russia and China – and Cuba, Venezuela, and other countries seeking to restructure their economic policies to recover their independence.

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“..El-Sisi urged the parties to prevent the cycle of violence from expanding..”

‘No Military Solutions’ to Israel–Iran Crisis – Egypt (RT)

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi has called for a diplomatic resolution of the Israel-Iran conflict. Speaking during a phone call on Saturday with Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian, El-Sisi urged the parties to prevent the cycle of violence from expanding. “There are no military solutions to this crisis,” the Egyptian leader stressed. According to a presidential spokesman, El-Sisi reaffirmed Cairo’s categorical rejection of Israel’s continuing military escalation, describing it as “a threat to the security and stability of the Middle East at a critical time when the region is experiencing multiple crises.” In an earlier statement on Saturday, the Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs expressed “deep concern” over the situation in Iran and condemned the rapid military escalation. It also reaffirmed Egypt’s opposition to any violations of the UN Charter and international law, calling for full respect of state sovereignty.

The latest conflict began on June 13, when Israeli fighter jets carried out a wave of strikes on Iranian strategic sites, including the uranium enrichment facility in Natanz. Israeli spies also targeted senior military officials and nuclear scientists in and around Tehran. Iran retaliated by launching dozens of ballistic missiles into Israeli territory. The conflict has continued to escalate since then, with both sides exchanging waves of missiles strikes, forcing populations underground and into hiding. On Sunday, US President Donald Trump announced that American forces had conducted a large-scale bombing campaign on three Iranian nuclear sites—Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan—claiming the facilities had been “completely and totally obliterated.”

The developments have sparked condemnation from several African governments. In a statement on Sunday, the South African Presidency pointed out Pretoria’s “sincerest hope that President Donald Trump would use his influence and that of the US government to prevail on the parties to pursue a dialogue path in resolving their issues of dispute.” The African state called on the US, Israel, and Iran to allow the UN to lead efforts toward a peaceful resolution. Earlier in June, Algeria’s Foreign Minister Ahmed Attaf held a phone call with his Iranian counterpart, Abbas Araghchi, during which he reiterated Algeria’s unwavering condemnation of the Israeli strikes. Attaf characterized the attacks as an act of aggression and called on the UN Security Council to intervene and uphold international legal frameworks.

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Deepfake Informational Barbarism. That’s quite the term.

Moscow Warns of Deepfake ‘Informational Barbarism’ (RT)

The increasing availability of deepfake technology is pushing the world into “informational barbarism,” Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has warned, urging news agencies to increase investment in fact-checking and video verification. Zakharova identified deepfakes as global concern during a workshop at the 19th General Assembly of the Organization of Asia-Pacific News Agencies (OANA), which Russia hosted last week. Malicious actors are using every opportunity to deploy “poison pills of lies” against their targets, and are turning to generative content to achieve their aims, the diplomat said.

”Just a couple of years ago deepfake was a novelty that could only confuse people, but now the quality and quantity of deepfake videos raises the question whether humanity is equipped to deal with such attacks,” Zakharova said. “I don’t have a definitive answer.” The Russian Foreign Ministry works to disprove falsified content involving its staff, including Minister Sergey Lavrov and Zakharova herself. But as mount of fake content increases, so does the time required to counter them, she said. The problem is multifaceted, as seen in the growing use of deepfakes by scammers, and demands a “systemic and comprehensive” international response.

”It is self-evident that news agencies and leading media outlets need entire sections dedicated to fact-checking that are trained to detect technological tricks, which are used to present non-credible information as credible,” she said. News agencies are naturally at the forefront of the fight against falsified imagery, since they handle the largest flow of raw information in the media ecosystem, Zakharova pointed out. The Foreign Ministry launched a dedicated campaign against “fake news” in 2017 and has since released more than 5,000 regular rebuttals and 350 in-depth exposés of what it considers informational attacks against Russia’s national interests, the official said.

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“..it is very difficult to remove a president without the support of the vice president and most of the Cabinet, meaning, little can be done without a virtual mutiny within the White House..”

Why the Public Needs Answers on Biden’s Alleged Incapacity (Turley)

“Jackie, are you here? Where’s Jackie?” When then-President Joe Biden asked in September 2022 if House Rep. Jackie Walorski, an Indiana Republican who had died weeks earlier in a car accident, was in a meeting, observers were shocked. Biden had not only issued a statement of condolence; he had attended the congresswoman’s memorial service to lower the flags at the White House in her honor. As Washington Post media critic Erik Wemple noted last week, that moment should have been a wake-up call. In Washington parlance, it left no room for “plausible deniability” about whether Biden was still fit to hold the office of president. And it wasn’t just Democratic politicians who were willfully blind to Biden’s obvious deterioration; it was the media, too.

That’s why the country should fully support President Donald Trump’s June 4 order for his administration to investigate Biden’s competence and answer some of these questions, including the possible abuse of an autopen to sign legislation, pardons and other documents while he was president, instead of looking for political motivations. Similarly, the Republican-led House Oversight Committee is also investigating. The New York Times called it part of Trump’s “campaign of retribution against his perceived enemies” and “the latest effort by President Trump to stoke conspiracy theories about his predecessor.”

There is a weird dissonance when journalists blame Biden’s White House for a coverup, but then criticize efforts to investigate that coverup. While criminal charges are unlikely to stem from the investigation, if the White House autopen, for instance, was used without Biden’s consent, that would amount to forgery, obstruction of justice, fraud or other serious crimes. The complicity of politicians, staff and even the press in deception is nothing new in Washington. A century ago, after President Woodrow Wilson experienced a severe stroke in September 1919, his wife, Edith, and his staff covered up the severity of his condition, which made him incapable of fulfilling his duties till the end of his term and affected the race for a Democratic successor. To end such abuses, we must demand accountability and greater transparency on matters of presidential health and competence.

The 25th Amendment of the Constitution was intended to address succession issues, including the incapacity of a president, but it is very difficult to remove a president without the support of the vice president and most of the Cabinet, meaning, little can be done without a virtual mutiny within the White House. That is particularly true when staff have an interest in maintaining the illusion to keep the president and themselves in power. With Biden, according to the reporting in the book “Original Sin” by journalists Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson, the staff regularly cut off the access of Cabinet secretaries on down to Biden, limited public events and scripted short remarks for the president to read from teleprompters. Allegations that Biden’s staff misused the autopen are exceptionally difficult to prove, and Biden has issued a statement that he had full knowledge of everything that was signed.

Absent a confession of incapacity, we need someone Congress would need someone like John Dean, the White House counsel during the Nixon administration who was willing to break from the ranks and implicate his former associates. So far, there do not appear to be any Deans on the Biden staff, who are likely eager to avoid being implicated in potential improper use of the autopen or other actions that may have circumvented the president or covered up his decline. But that doesn’t mean that the Trump administration and Congress shouldn’t be trying to get to the bottom of what happened. The worst thing for the American people would be a collective shrug and a resumption of business as usual.

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“..at least some Western experts and even mainstream media were well aware that Ukraine had a rapidly growing, increasingly powerful, and extremely subversive (domestically and internationally) far-right movement.“

Zelensky Has A Nazi Problem. He Can’t Lie His Way Out Of It (Amar)

Anniversaries can be opportunities. For better or worse. In the case of the recent anniversary of Nazi Germany’s massive attack on the Soviet Union of 22 June 1941 – code-named Operation Barbarossa by the Germans – Ukraine’s beyond best-by-date president Vladimir Zelensky went for the worst. Using his own Telegram channel, Zelensky shared his bizarre view of why that anniversary mattered. In short, because it can serve in the information war against Russia. “Eighty years ago,” the Kiev regime leader wrote, “the world overcame Nazism and swore ‘Never again.’ But today Russia is repeating the crimes of the Nazis […] Now Ukrainians are fighting against rashism [a pejorative term fusing the words “Russia” and “fascism”] with the same courage with which our ancestors defeated Nazism…”

Where to begin? Why not with the obvious: IF Russia were following Nazi examples, then much of Ukraine would now look like, for instance, Gaza. And while every death is a tragedy, the numbers of Ukrainian civilians killed in the Ukraine War would be of an entirely different order of magnitude. This is not a matter of opinion. It’s a fact that can be quantified and proven: As of the end of May, the UN counted about 13,279 Ukrainian civilians killed, since the beginning of the large-scale fighting in February 2022. It is true that the UN also warns that these are conservative, minimum figures. Yet consider some figures for Gaza under Israeli genocidal assault since October 2023. As of early June, the enclave’s health ministry – generally acknowledged as reliable and also conservative with its numbers, notwithstanding Israeli and Western propaganda – has counted over 55,000 Palestinians killed in Gaza alone (Israel’s victims in the West bank and elsewhere should, of course, not be forgotten.)

The Gaza Health Ministry does not distinguish between resistance fighters and civilians, but there is a virtual expert consensus that the share of the latter is unusually high, as you would expect during a genocide. A peer-reviewed study in the prestigious and unbiased medical journal The Lancet, for instance, has estimated that 59.1% of deaths between October 2023 and June 2024 were women, children, and the elderly. Other equally reputable organizations have even estimated around 90% of civilian casualties in Gaza. Keep in mind that the above is deliberately restricted to minimum estimates. As The Lancet has also shown, the real death toll in Gaza is likely to be far higher. Let’s also not even dwell here on “details,” such as that Gaza now has the highest concentration of child amputees in the world.

For even the bare figures cited suffice to gain a sense of proportion and perspective: Gaza, before the Israeli mass murder attack had a total population of between 2.2 and 2.4 million. Ukraine’s total population on the eve of the large-scale escalation of February 2022 was just over 41 million, according to Ukrainian official sources. And now compare the numbers of civilian casualties and the total populations. It is obvious: If Vladimir Zelensky is looking for a state that uses methods – if that is the word – of Nazi warfare, then that would be Israel, not Russia. But he cannot say that because Israel is aligned with the US and the West, just like his own regime. Figures can help expose blatant lies, especially when they are as stunningly unambiguous as in this case.

But the quantitative isn’t everything, obviously. What about what social scientists and historians – such as me – call the qualitative dimension? In other words, what about what makes people tick? In that regard, the West’s proxy war against Russia and via Ukraine has seen one of the most successful operations of political whitewashing in recent memory. Before Kiev, first under Zelensky’s predecessor Petro Poroshenko and then under Zelensky himself, turned Ukraine into a Western tool and battering ram against Russia, at least some Western experts and even mainstream media were well aware that Ukraine had a rapidly growing, increasingly powerful, and extremely subversive (domestically and internationally) far-right movement.

As of 2014, even the BBC was still admitting that Ukrainian media and politicians were deliberately “underplaying” the potency and significance of their far-right. But then, as if on command, Western mainstream media united to belittle this malevolent force, pretending that it was either hardly there (and any impressions to the contrary were, of course, “Russian disinformation”), really harmless (a handful of misunderstood “patriots” with a few tattoos that look Nazi but are really just Tolkien), or on the mend, undergoing a steady and, of course, totally honest conversion to mainstream politics.

What happened in reality was that instead of adjusting to the Western “value” mainstream or Center – wherever that supposedly might be – the Ukrainian far right succeeded in making that mainstream adjust to its will. Probably because real-existing Western “values” have a genuine affinity to fascism anyhow. Now with the West’s war going badly, as even Western media have to recognize, even French paper of record Le Monde – as russophobic and rarara-proxy war as its worst peers in the US – has noticed that far-right, indeed strictly Neo-Nazi tendencies – polite expression – are alive and kicking in key units of Ukraine’s armed forces. Dear colleagues from France: Congratulations! And you should see the politics.

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“Words like “net zero,” “decarbonization,” and “climate justice” sound pure and benevolent, yet behind them stands an apparatus of control.”

Green Agenda Is Killing Europe’s Ancestry (Constantin Von Hoffmeister)

Western Europe’s new green regime reorders the continent through policies of territorial cleansing and restriction, replacing the lifeways of rooted peoples with a managed wilderness shaped by remote technocrats and mandated compliance. What arrives with the language of environmental deliverance advances as a mechanism of control, engineered to dissolve ancestral bonds.In the soft light of the northern dawn, when the fog rests over fields once furrowed by hands and prayers, a quiet force spreads, cloaked in green, speaking in the language of “sustainability,” offered with the glow of planetary care. Across Europe, policymakers, consultants, and unelected “visionaries” enforce a grand design of regulation and restraint.

The new dogma wears the trappings of salvation. It promises healing, stability, and ecological redemption. Yet beneath the surface lies a different pattern: one of compression, centralization, and engineered transformation. This green wave comes through offices aglow with LED light and carbon dashboards, distant from the oak groves and shepherd chants that once shaped Europe through destiny and devotion. Traditional Europe lived through the pulse of the land, its customs drawn from meadows, its laws mirrored in trees, its faith carried by the wind over tilled soil and cathedral towers. The terms arrive prepackaged: “rewilding,” “net zero,” “decarbonization,” and “climate justice.” These sound pure, ringing with the cadence of science and morality. Their syllables shimmer with precision, yet behind their clarity stands an apparatus of control, drawn from abstract algorithms rather than ancestral experience.

They conceal a deeper impulse: to dissolve density, to steer the population from the scattered villages of memory into the smart cities of control. The forest returns, yet the shepherd departs. The wolves are celebrated, while the farmer disappears from policy. Across the hills of France, the valleys of Italy, and the plains of Germany, the primordial cadence falls silent. Where once rose smoke from chimneys, now rise sensors tracking deer. Where once stood barns, now appear habitats for reintroduced apex predators. Rural life, the fundament of Europe’s civilizational ascent, receives accolades in speeches, even as its arteries are quietly severed.

The continent reshapes itself according to new models, conceived in simulation and consecrated in policy. Entire regions are earmarked for rewilding, which means exclusion, which means transformation through absence. The human imprint recedes, and in its place rises a curated silence: measured, observed, and sanctified by distance. The bond between man and land, established over centuries of cultivation, ritual, and kinship, gives way to managed wilderness. Yet this wilderness unfolds without its own rhythm, shaped and maintained through remote observation and coded intention. It remains indexed and administered. Every creature bears a tracking chip. Every tree falls under statistical oversight. Drones scan the canopies. Bureaucrats speak of ecosystems the way accountants speak of balance sheets. The sacred space, once alive with sacrifice and harvest, turns into a green exhibit in the managerial museum of Europe.

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The minority opinion is a tad disturbing.

Supreme Court Hands Trump Huge Win On Deporting ‘Worst’ Illegals (ZH)

The US Supreme Court just lifted a lower court’s order that required the Trump administration to give people 10 days’ notice and a chance to object before deporting them to a third country. “The United States is facing a crisis of illegal immigration, in no small part because many aliens most deserving of removal are often the hardest to remove,” Solicitor General John Saur wrote in an emergency application to the court in May. “When illegal aliens commit crimes in this country, they are typically ordered removed. But when those crimes are especially heinous, their countries of origin are often unwilling to take them back. As a result, criminal aliens are often allowed to stay in the United States for years on end, victimizing law-abiding Americans in the meantime.”

The brief unsigned order came in the case known as Department of Homeland Security v. D.V.D. with (surprise, surprise) Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Ketanji Brown Jackson and Elena Kagan dissenting from the decision, who said they “cannot join so gross an abuse” of the high court’s authority. “Apparently, the Court finds the idea that thousands will suffer violence in farflung locales more palatable than the remote possibility that a District Court exceeded its remedial powers when it ordered the Government to provide notice and process to which the plaintiffs are constitutionally and statutorily entitled,” Sotomayor wrote. “That use of discretion is as incomprehensible as it is inexcusable.”

The government has tried to speed up the deportation process “by removing aliens to third countries that have agreed to accept them.” “Convincing third countries to accept some of the most undesirable aliens requires sensitive diplomacy, which involves negotiation and the balancing of other foreign-policy interests,” it stated. Now, the administration can proceed with fast-track deportations of “some of the worst of the worst illegal aliens” to countries it has made deals with, such as South Sudan. Of course, not everyone is happy. “The ramifications of the Supreme Court’s order will be horrifying,” said Trina Realmuto, executive director of the National Immigration Litigation Alliance. “It strips away critical due process protections…”

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    John Day
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    ​Gilbert Doctorow with Glenn Diesen: U.S. Bombing of Iran as Political Theatre? https://gilbertdoctorow.substack.com/p/glenn-diesen-us-bombing-of-iran-as

    Yesterday’s Iranian missile attacks on evacuated US military bases and ports: Missiles Inbound Over Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq As Iranian Retaliation On US Bases Underway https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-press-secretary-hints-iran-regime-change-claims-intel-said-weeks-nuclear

    2 days ago; part of the show: Medvedev Reacts: ‘Number Of Countries’ Now Ready To Supply Iran With ‘Their Own Nuclear Warheads’ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/medvedev-reacts-number-countries-now-ready-supply-iran-their-own-nuclear-warheads

    ​ Russia’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations, Vassily Nebenzia, has criticised Israel for not being subject to the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspection programme, as it is not a signatory to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT).
    ​ Nebenzia made the remarks during an emergency session of the UN Security Council held on Sunday to discuss the recent US attacks on Iran.​ https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250623-russia-criticises-israels-exemption-from-nuclear-inspections/

    ​ But Bibi is in London… Putin to Netanyahu: ‘Read My Lips—Stop Attacking Iran’ or ‘Prepare For Consequences’
    “The West is providing Israel with diplomatic cover while fanning the flames of war,” a senior Russian diplomat stated. “They are sabotaging any path to peaceful negotiation.”​ https://vtforeignpolicy.com/2025/06/putin-to-netanyahu-read-my-lips-stop-attacking-iran-or-prepare-for-consequences/

    #190882
    John Day
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    Secretive Monday meeting with nice words​; no real statements: ​Iranian FM Araghchi says he had ‘very good’ meeting with Putin in Moscow​ https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/06/23/750068/fm-araghchi-very-good-meeting-with-putin-moscow

    ​ Saturday night Iranian attacks on Israel:​ Iranian missiles struck 14 strategic military sites in Israel’s Haifa, Tel Aviv last night: IRGC
    IRGC launches 19th wave of ‘Operation True Promise 3’ with large number of offensive, suicide drones​ https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/iranian-missiles-struck-14-strategic-military-sites-in-israel-s-haifa-tel-aviv-last-night-irgc/3607443

    ​Yesterday: Israel Hits Tehran Electric Plant; Iran Hits Israeli Electric Plant Back – Multiple Targets Hit in Tehran Later https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/israel-hits-tehran-electric-plant-iran-hits-israeli-electric-plant-back

    90% of Israeli strikes hit residential sites in Tehran​ https://en.mehrnews.com/news/233578/90-of-Israeli-strikes-hit-residential-sites-in-Tehran

    ​Sunday: Iranian parliament moves to close Strait of Hormuz after US aggression: Lawmaker https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/06/22/750031/iranian-parliament-moves-close-strait-hormuz-after-us-aggression-lawmaker

    #190883
    John Day
    Participant

    Monday: Widespread GPS Jamming Across Strait Of Hormuz; Six Supertankers Perform Abrupt U-Turns https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/supertankers-u-turn-hormuz-world-braces-iranian-retaliation

    US asks China to stop Iran from closing Strait of Hormuz​ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c056pyv723vo

    Monday evening: Iran Reportedly Agrees To Trump-Backed, Qatari-Mediated Ceasefire With Israel https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-press-secretary-hints-iran-regime-change-claims-intel-said-weeks-nuclear

    After Midnight in Iran: Iran has not agreed to a ceasefire. Trump is lying again https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/514877/Iran-has-not-agreed-to-a-ceasefire-Trump-is-lying-again

    This morning, headed off to NATO Summit: “They Don’t Know What The F**K They’re Doing” – Furious Trump Slams Israel As Fragile Ceasefire Crumbles https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-press-secretary-hints-iran-regime-change-claims-intel-said-weeks-nuclear

    #190884
    John Day
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    ‘He Knew We’d Attack’ – Israel Complains At Trump’s Comments After Iran Ceasefire Falters​ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israeli-official-confirms-rift-ceasefire-fails-trump-vowed-israel-wont-strike-after-he

    ​ Iran Reopens Airspace To Commercial Flights As Ceasefire With Israel Finally Holds
    ​ The ceasefire seems to finally be holding as of early evening local time, despite the ongoing accusations of earlier violations when it was to take effect.
    “Both Israel and Iran wanted to stop the War, equally! It was my great honor to Destroy All Nuclear facilities & capability, and then, STOP THE WAR!” President Trump said on Truth Social. ​ ​(Were they all destroyed?​)
    ​ And China has belatedly weighed in, with Foreign Minister Wang Yi saying China supports Iran in achieving a “genuine ceasefire” – but following Beijing’s condemnation of the US for striking the country’s nuclear sites.​ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israeli-official-confirms-rift-ceasefire-fails-trump-vowed-israel-wont-strike-after-he

    Israeli Forces Kill 43 Palestinians in Gaza, Including 20 Aid Seekers​ https://news.antiwar.com/2025/06/23/israeli-forces-kill-43-palestinians-in-gaza-including-20-aid-seekers/

    ​Children starving to death, though: For most Palestinians, staying hungry is better​ than risking Murder By IDF life to get Food Aid​ https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250623-for-most-gazans-staying-hungry-is-better-than-risking-life-to-get-aid/

    Only to ​designated​ ​target-sites​?… Israel denied half of aid movement requests in Gaza over weekend: UN​ https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250623-israel-denied-half-of-aid-movement-requests-in-gaza-over-weekend-un/

    #190885
    John Day
    Participant

    ​Borrowing until nobody will lend: Trump At NATO Summit To Push ‘Historic’ 5% Spending Goal Amid Global Conflicts https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-nato-summit-push-historic-5-spending-goal-amid-global-conflicts

    Michael Hudson has been on for the whole petrobuck epoch: War on Iran is fight for US unipolar control of world
    The motivation for the attack on Iran has nothing to do with any attempt by Iran to protect its national sovereignty by developing an atom bomb. The basic problem is that the United States has taken the initiative in trying to preempt Iran and other countries from breaking away from dollar hegemony and U.S. unipolar control.
    ​ Here’s how the neocons spell out the U.S. national interest in overthrowing the Iranian government and bringing about a regime change – not necessarily a secular democratic regime change, but perhaps an extension of the ISIS/Al-Qaida Wahhabi terrorists who have taken over Syria.
    ​ With Iran broken up and its component parts turned into a set of client oligarchies, U.S. diplomacy can control all Middle Eastern oil. And control of oil has been a cornerstone of U.S. international economic power for a century, thanks to U.S. oil companies operating internationally (not only as domestic U.S. producers of oil and gas) and remitting economic rents extracted from overseas to make a major contribution to the U.S. balance of payments.
    ​ Control of Middle Eastern oil also enables the dollar diplomacy that has seen Saudi Arabia and other OPEC countries invest their oil revenues into the U.S. economy by accumulating vast holdings of U.S. Treasury securities and private-sector investments.​ https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2025/06/22/michael-hudson-war-iran-us-unipolar-control/

    ​ Hollywood seeded Iran war narrative for years – WikiLeaks
    Jewish screenwriters have allegedly pushed the image of an Iranian nuclear threat through film and TV since the early 2010s​ https://swentr.site/news/620340-holywood-jews-iran-war/

    US Military Scrambles For Ways To Protect Bases From Drone Warfare
    ​ The use of kinetic systems that would simply shoot down a drone are out of the question on American soil, according to military personnel, as they are not cost-effective, and would also run the risk of injuring civilians or damaging property when the debris fell to the ground…​ ​..While the military, and federal government, do have electromagnetic weapons that can knock out drones by interfering with their electrical and navigational systems, these weapons are typically poorly suited to an environment rich in aerial traffic because they affect all electronic systems within a given area…
    ​..Many such systems, including variants of weapons using lasers, microwaves, and particle and sound beams, are still in development, but they bring their own problems because of high energy consumption.
    ​ According to the Congressional Research Service, the Pentagon’s newest counter-drone weapons would need to draw 100 kilowatts of power to fire a laser in a counter-drone capacity.
    ​ That’s more power than the average American household uses in three days, and that figure does not include the additional power requirements for cooling the significant amount of heat generated by such weapons.
    ​ It makes defending military installations on U.S. soil from drone attacks an infrastructure problem as well as a defense problem.​ https://www.zerohedge.com/military/us-military-scrambles-ways-protect-bases-drone-warfare

    Supreme Court Hands Trump Huge Win On Deporting ‘Worst Of The Worst’ Illegals​ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/supreme-court-hands-trump-huge-win-deporting-worst-worst-illegals

    #190886
    John Day
    Participant

    German police caught dropping off migrant in Dutch border city
    A florist’s security camera captured the moment German police left a migrant across the border in the Netherlands, raising questions over “cold transfers” and the legality of the practice​ https://rmx.news/article/german-police-caught-dropping-off-migrant-in-dutch-border-city/

    ​Displacing thre cost to who? UK Government To Slash Industrial Energy Costs https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-government-slash-industrial-energy-costs

    For AI, not lasers, I presume: New York To Build Gigawatt Nuclear Power Plant, Backed By Trump-Era Reforms https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/new-york-build-1gigawatt-nuclear-power-plant-backed-trump-era-reforms

    ​ “Labor-saving devices”: MIT Study Finds Artificial Intelligence Use Reprograms the Brain, Leading to Cognitive Decline
    ChatGPT impairs memory and persistently suppresses brain activity—raising urgent concerns about cognitive offloading and long-term neural harm.​ https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/mit-study-finds-artificial-intelligence

    ​ “Unintended Consequences” of the COVID-19 Lockdown: Millions of People in the Poorest Areas of the World Died of Starvation, Not COVID-19
    People whose deaths were irrelevant, and Ignored by the Mainstream Media​ https://www.globalresearch.ca/unintended-consequences-covid-19-lockdown-millions-people-poorest-died-starvation/5892153

    #190887
    John Day
    Participant

    Pierre Kory MD, Medical Record Review Of the Twins Who Died After Vaccination And A Review Of The Literature Proving SIDS Is Caused By Vaccines
    I was asked by Children’s Health Defense and the parents to review the medical records of twins found dead in their bed eight days after multiple vaccinations. Related? Yes, says the hidden science.
    ​ Dallas and Tyson Shaw died on the night of the 7th day following their 18th-month well-baby visit, where they received five vaccinations during that visit – DTaP, Influenza, and Hep A.​.. They were generally healthy, typically developed children for their corrected age, with no issues with hearing or vision. They had also received all the ACIP-recommended vaccines up to that point, although at the time of the visit, they were “behind on DTaP for 3 months,” until they both received them on the fateful day of 4/23/25.​..
    ​..The children were immediately taken to the ER on that day, 4/24/25, with documented complaints of “warmth” and “decreased activity.” The ER doc documented that it was “likely a reaction to immunization,” but the chart also included a viral URI in the differential diagnosis. Sent home AFTER GETTING TYLENOL ( a risk factor for death, which I will not explore in this post for the sake of brevity).​..
    ..7 days after the vaccines, on April 30th, they were still having diarrhea. Mom tried to get them in to see the pediatrician, but there were no walk-in appointments available…​
    ​..”I went and cleaned up the living room and was getting ready to have them awake. I was waiting for them to wake up. When I went in there to wake them up is when I found them the way they were.​”
    ​ She then describes the way she found them – cold and “they It looked as if they had gone in their sleep. They were in their sleeping positions. I think it’s called rigor mortis. Their faces were sleeping faces.​ I flipped over Tyson because I tried to shake him awake, and he didn’t. I flipped him over and I saw him and immediately ran to the living room to grab my phone and call 911. And I went back into the room and sat on their bed, and then that’s when I flipped Dallas over and saw her the same way.​” …
    ..Imagine drowning in grief over the sudden deaths of your beloved babies while having to endure aggressive and accusatory questioning by detectives? Welcome to the even darker side of the childhood vaccine program, folks…
    ​..MY IMPRESSION AS TO THE CAUSE OF DEATH OF THE SHAW TWINS
    IMPRESSION: Sudden death from severe apnea caused by recent vaccination at 18-month wellness visit. The underlying pathophysiology was likely due to micro-strokes and/or neuroinflammation in the respiratory control center in the brainstem, with micro-strokes caused by “blood sludging/clumping” from loss of zeta-potential due to the inflammatory and or hypercoagulable components of the vaccines.
    ​ The deaths occurred on the night of Day 7 post-vaccination, a time when apnea episodes spike post-vaccination as per this carefully done study from 1991.​ https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/medical-record-review-of-the-twins

    ​ What if the upside is fake? Peter McCullough MD, Should We “Trade” Human Life with Immunization Programs?
    Americans Asked to Risk Their Lives with the Needle to “Save Millions’​ https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/should-we-trade-human-life-with-immunization

    #190888
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ Threat in Your Medicine Cabinet: The FDA’s Gamble on America’s Drugs/ ProPublica
    Risky Medications: The FDA has given more than 20 foreign factories a special pass to continue sending drugs to the U.S. even though they were made at plants that the agency had banned.
    ​ Troubled Factories: The medications came mostly from plants in India where inspectors found contaminated drugs, filthy labs and falsified records.
    FDA Secrecy: The agency did not proactively inform the public when drugs were exempted from import bans, and it did not routinely test the medications to ensure they were safe.​ https://merylnass.substack.com/p/threat-in-your-medicine-cabinet-the

    We Spent a Year Investigating How the FDA Let Risky Drugs Into the U.S. Market/ ProPublica​ https://www.propublica.org/article/fda-methodology-american-medicine-research

    ​ Medical researcher, Dr. Marian Laderoute may get to address ACIP, Concerns About the Safety of the Spike mRNA Gene Therapy Products
    Submitted to the ACIP for their Meeting on Vaccines​ https://hervk102.substack.com/p/concerns-about-the-safety-of-the

    ​ CDC Scientist Leaves Agency Over Split With RFK Jr.
    Dr. Fiona Havers told The New York Times that she resigned from the CDC on June 16 because she disagrees with the approach to vaccines under Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
    ​ “If it isn’t stopped, and some of this isn’t reversed, like, immediately, a lot of Americans are going to die as a result of vaccine-preventable diseases,” Havers said.
    ​ Kennedy’s approach so far has included the narrowing of COVID-19 vaccine recommendations and the removal of all members of the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP).
    ​ Kennedy has since named eight new members to the panel, which provides advice on immunizations to the CDC.
    “I could not be party to legitimizing this new committee,” Havers told The New York Times.​ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cdc-scientist-leaves-agency-over-split-rfk-jr

    #190889
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Meg-A

    Yeah, that’s not how that works. MAGA was the Idea. We hired YOU to execute it. We didn’t hire you to do whatever you wanted. If you’re against the idea, you’re fired. That’s why he should fall on his sword as a blood sacrifice for the country. And yeah, okay, you might need to get your affairs in order since the other side will use that as evil and not good, but that’s what is most direct right now. Think of it: go out, admit (half) of what you’re doing and why, drop the dossiers from Congress, Epstein, Kennedy, in C130 pallets, hitting the ground nationwide, let them handcuff you, walk over the Pontius’s place, let them do what they will. …Sound, Fury, Nothing. …But then? Then again, the country can face what its done, choose, right, rebuild itself, knowing. Lots of people saying free, raw deal! No, he deserved it! No he did a bad thing but Reasons, No! We do the law. No!

    Here’s the point, like Gen Washington, you lay down your life as general and king for the …myth?…of the country? Proving it with action? You see why this would work? MAGA can still be split over it…but the DNC and Davos would not prevail, even so.

    Anyway, back to the real world, looks like Vance no like this, he has the same impression the rest of us do about this. Didn’t resign, but like Gabbard, pissed off and at their limits about this decision.

    So I hear we’ve just been given a reason to leave all our Bases of Empire and Colonization in the Middle East? They can’t be supported? Huh. More banana peels.

    They do this AND have a cease fire? More banana peels.

    “He bombed two empty facilities that had been previously struck by Israel.
    And he bounced six bombs off an indestructible facility (Firdos), claiming destruction despite the opposite being the case.”

    Yes, and WHY? I see this on the Internet, YES we’re dunking on Trump, both doing this, and claiming idiot PR campaign about it, ha ha. Yeah, so smart guy: WHY? …Yeah, then you’re back to a theory like mine.

    Let me put it this way: this s—t didn’t fool Mossad. GRU knows. Iran sure as f– knows. It fooled YOU, and you’re not fooled? Wow, so smart! Okay, because the PR CAMPAIGN IS THE POINT. Why?

    TRUMP PUT NUTSY BACK IN A PR BOX. Otherwise, makes no sense. Right? Who is this trick, this show for? Selling to the masses. Now the masses will be like “Bomb Iran? Invade Iran? Wtf, we just DID that! We just won everything over there! This is bulls—t I ain’t going!”

    Israel like Ze says “Another $40B please! We need bigger bunker busters!” Huh? TRUMP JUST GAVE YOU ALL THAT. What are you on about, you loon? If it didn’t work then, it ain’t gonna work again now, go away!

    Like that. And again, he can’t sell this with an AI video, he needs to DO something. Act. Send those B2s on national TV. That’s the magic bean he grows this beanstalk from. Sorry. If everyone was up to speed we wouldn’t have to do this, but everyone’s grown up in a violent, abusive household and daddy’s still in the next room.

    That’s who this is for and why.

    Now something I missed to add yesterday, I have to cross off, or downrate a dozen more thinkers and sources for missing this. Luongo for instance is spinning and needs to take a week. He’s like Positive confirmation central, because his fat brain can’t make sense of the too-many facts flying around. Point is, not that he’s stupid, but that that is how it is. Always. In Intel. Their JOB is to misdirect you, there’s no other way to hide and do things. But that level of spinning isn’t calm and clear, we know you can only spitball which path we’re on and what next, we’re all there too. Krainer is placid, he’s sticking with the larger narrative, that they want/need Iran as a colony, which is strictly true. But that doesn’t tell us anything new, so…

    But that’s not what I’m saying here. Suppose I call an “L” and take up CitizenX and TDK’s and everyone’s prediction and advice on this? Still can’t. Let’s say they’re right even though they too, have provided nothing new: they’ve still been dead wrong on the LAST 10,000 things and of no help. The Black Pill doesn’t work either, folks. What is it doing? Why are they using it, for which I understand? Emotionally, it’s easier. It contains the EMOTIONS. …Meaning they care, but great, so do the rest of us, I need accurate thinking and predicting more. Infantrymen, Marines can care, with Emotions, that’s good for their job saving brothers. Intel guys not so much. Emotion clouds their judgment and is meant to. Our hating Israel for their actions causes us to miss things. Or to want the underdog, the colonized to win. Or whatever it is. Remember, the top level are psychos, they have no emotion, and so they know the only difference between us and them is our emotions, so they engineer to use that against us, like any con man. They think that is our WEAKNESS. We think that’s our strength, but on the game board you can’t PLAY it as a weakness. No Black Pill. If there were a Black Pill, the population would ALREADY be 500M, we’d already have more cameras than London, we’d already be in the camps. SOMEBODY is out there fighting, holding this back. Don’t denigrate their hard work.

    Post yesterday, Docktorow, Same as Luongo, JB, me, this is theater, also supported by what we find out has been hit. Iran then theater-hits the BRITISH Intel site this was arranged from, then the American bases after we carefully empty them. Huh, and huh?

    So Israel is allowed to go nuts, which bad for the nation, then BECAUSE they went nuts, Trump took them off the leash, IRAN gets to blow the crap out of them. “We were innocent! We were just sitting here across the ocean, doing what YOU told us, Israel!” Now it’s not that Israel vanishes, is a cinder, etc, what happened? Israel took a gambit, lost, the army is shot, their missiles are shot, their PR is shot, they have no ports, no refineries, and possibly THEIR nuclear site was “blown up” (prob bombing the doors sealed like they did in Iran) at Dimona. So what is that 36k insurance claims Israel pays, $7B at a pop in anti-missiles, to prove they can’t defend anything at all and the world diaspora goes back home, neither safe nor joining the army. Wow, boy that Trump banana peel again.

    And so IF you were doing this, what’s Nutsy’s pitch now? He sounds like Zelensky: hey dude we just gave you EVERYTHING ON THE PLANET, it did nothing, and we have no factories for more. Game over, go home. What’s his gambit and pitch to U.S. congress now? I’m sure the same but there’s no…how-do-I-say, TIMING. He ‘can’t’ now nuke Iran, which was their only go, the only way to toss the losing game board. And like Ukraine, Israel is now a massive net DRAIN on Europe, banking, etc. Oil Price. Insurance.

    Markets all good, right? Huh? Yeah, because they’re on the page I’m on: it’s all theater. Remember same for Oct 7? We were all, wtffffff? And some others. Trump went around 100 days, asked all Middle East: “what do you need? What’s the end state game everyone can live with?” Got the picture, so all Middle East supports this. No Hezbollah, no Hamas mostly, no Saudi, no Jordan, no Iraq. All even ALLOWED Israel to do this. Airspace, using their own anti-missles to help.

    Don’t look at me: look at them!!! Don’t look at me, or Trump, look at China, Russia, the whole Pan-Arab area! If this is all so bad, why did THEY do nothing, not me? Because they have the same sense I do: both nations are cut in half. Israel may “fall” – or the Nutsy government and their whack-a-loons – Iran comes back to a stable state.

    Luongo’s latest is even MORE complicated, although he’s stopped spinning and is apologizing to Krainer who he respects, for expecting a fight, and because he was too defensive and worried, causing one. He’s saying EUROPE creates Kayfabe. They create an Israel to betray them on command when they’re no longer useful. We’ve already seen that with the pipelines and Leviathan field. It sure looked like EUROPE was throwing them under. Then Oct 7 goes off, making SURE Israel has to take their psychological part as Monster. And they did. With hot sauce.

    But Europe ALSO created the Monster Iran in order to burn and betray. That’s the JPCOA Obama deal. They need war, so THEY need monsters – no one in the Middle East needs any more monsters! They’ve had enough bombings for one century. So Europe/London betray IRAN as well. And they can ALSO play their part in Kayfabe, as although maybe can’t get totally INSIDE, can so blindingly antagonize them from the outside with fake ghey wars and colonial attacks that Iran is seething at all of us, and rightfully so!

    What does the Iran nuke mean? Hey, guys: IRAN’S NUKE HITS LONDON. Do you understand? Yeah, sure, it’s made to hit Israel, but if — I – get hold of it I CAN BLACKMAIL EUROPE, blame Iran, and keep the whole war going forever. With one Dr. No.

    So No: no Israel, no Iran, and no U.S. We don’t get to “win” either, we leave too. As the bases are bombed and “closed”. What does Trump say? “Oh you thought it was a forever war, didn’t trust me, but see, it’s the midterms, war over, half our boys home.” How you gonna do that the other way? We already TRIED that the other way. Israel lobby + no narrative = nobody comes home, nothing changes.

    But we’z Wun! We wun the big war, now we can come home! Right? What’s Israel going to say? Well they dgaf, but what are their congressional employees going to say? I mean SAY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE who were just told we won on national TV? That we should stay? Go ahead and sell that in Pittsburgh.

    No, I don’t like it, and yes, we would impeach and run it another way. But this is where we are.

    “If Iran attacks U.S. military bases, Trump is pulled into a regional conflict beyond what most have contemplated,”

    Does it tho? We just had those attacks, hitting nothing. All for TV.

    Iran is so mad they blocked Hormuz, helping the U.S. and hurting Europe. …And Europe can always use our NordStream to buy Russia’s oil at a slight markup. Awww.

    “The globalists want to put Iran & Russia in the same bucket to try to induce a 2-front kinetic war”

    They absolutely do, that’s what was stopped so far.

    ““..was coaxed from a Palantir counter-intelligence algorithm..”
    • The Key Nuclear Allegation That Started The War (Alastair Crooke)

    You’re using your telepathy to believe that THEY believed it. Do they? Why would they? They know what the machine is. Are they scamming themselves?

    Besides, the CIA/MilIntel have already had their own for 20 years, that’s probably what John Titor was. So you’re claiming that…supercomputers…are something new? Do you hear yourself?

    Oh, btw same “Master intel supercomputers” that failed to see Oct 7 and failed to hit anyone afterwards? That AI supercomputer?

    The con that’s being run is on YOU, not them. If they’re saying fairy tales like this the story is for the masses. The most, deepest, dumbest masses. No one else would get past the first paragraph, as I just didn’t, on your behalf.

    ““How is it that such a lie got into a script about Wikileaks?” Assange asked..”
    • Hollywood Seeded Iran War Narrative For Years – Wikileaks (RT)

    Yup, tons of talk about “Top Gun”. Now, like the 250th Military parade, what does that mean? TRUMP DIDN’T PLAN THIS. All these plans have been around 5, 10, 25 years. It’s been the plan since Gen Clark said we were going to attack, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran, in that order. Well butter my bum and call me a biscuit!

    Okay so the NeoCons have been doing this since Kissinger. 1) Everybody knows it, why are you shocked. 2) Who is keeping them in, since they’re all failing morons 3) Why can’t you stop them since you saw them and their plans 30 years ago. 4) How do you stop them now?

    Yeah, uh, the only POSSIBLE answer is, they’re not running themselves, and Dick Cheney is busy. SO THEY HAVE A BOSS. WHO is that boss, since is sure aint us, Iran, Italy, or a whole bunch of other people/nations who come and gone since then? Not China. Not Russia. Not Bolivia. Who’s left? Who gains? Israel, but being flattened? Front line of a war, all being killed? Not really! How about Bosses, Bankers, people who live in Switzerland NOT being bombed? Sound more likely? We know it’s not the U.S. since they’re pissed as s—t at us and we keep fighting them. Gee, I think by process of elimination we have DAVOS, EU. THEY are the ones with the power to force-install Walz, Bolton, etc. They are the ones who own the Media, including movies – Not Trump!

    “• No Justification For Attack On Iran – Putin (RT)

    Really? Strange reaction from Russia then.

    ““..the war in Iran likewise has as an aim blocking trade with China and Russia and countering moves away from the U.S.-centered neoliberal order..”

    Hes’ saying this correctly, but is being heard wrongly. What is the “NeoLiberal Order”? The NeoCon order. But with business, not just war. Aka, the “West”. They are CENTERED in the U.S. because they have pirated our army, etc, but as we know the same people are trying to DESTROY the U.S. not make it strong as Rome. So you have “Business, Colonial pan, anti-nationalist, anti-populist West” aka “Globalists” who are attacking Iran, Russia, BRIICS to colonize the remaining resistors. Clearly the U.S. is doing nothing for them but pissing the Globalists off, ’cause they’re mad as hatters at us.

    “• ‘No Military Solutions’ to Israel–Iran Crisis – Egypt (RT)

    Interesting. What’s he saying? Time is done, let’s pull out and sign the penciled-in economic deal Trump got in the first 100 days?

    “• Green Agenda Is Killing Europe’s Ancestry (Constantin Von Hoffmeister)

    Pointing out that whoever is running Europe is vehemently anti-Europe. And Anti Life.

    “The first freight train from China arrived in Iran in 15 days, compared to 40 days by sea”

    Same as WWI. Same people. Germany-Turkey line, both of which were taken out by Oceana. Cuz one guy in Serbia, amirite? That’s why 20M people all died? Suffolk cared so very, very much about which king was in Dalmatia? Oh, and WWI and WWII are the same war. Everyone agrees. As the Brits called for demobilization, Germany actually believed them and started, then the Allies got the drop on them, marched to Berlin and dictated terms at gunpoint, causing the ill-fated Treaty of Versailles.

    Possibly slightly more sense if it was all MacKinder dividing Asia, and not just one loose criminal running around?

    “They’re back to lobbing missiles at each other again. Trump is not terribly happy – ‘Israel and Iran don’t know what the f— they’re doing’ he is quoted as saying.
    The Zionists haven’t spent decades working up to their regime change effort in Iran just to stop at the request of anyone in the US.”

    Right. Who gains? Apparently not the U.S., who is also pissed off. Are those “Zionists” have mansions in s–thole Tel Aviv? No way. Oh, so it’s the people in ZURICH, Paris, Hamburg? Oh I guess the EUROPEANS again, where that magic plane avoided all flyovers and landed where? With King Putz, in Balmoral? They HAVE to keep this war going, they HAVE to have a nuclear exchange.

    And remember: Ukraine is lost. News blackout on that.

    “Scott Ritter asserted promptly after the attack that Trump bombed 3 sites, 2 already bombed by Israel, and all already evacuated before the bombing, in order to save face and crow loudly, with the hopes of not really going to war with Iran (which is better than really doing it): Ritter’s Rant Ep. 9: Where’s the Beef?
    ​ President Trump just sent the most sophisticated weapons in the US arsenal to bomb three empty sites in Iran.”

    Yeah, why? Because Ritter will say Trump is incompetent liar who dinna know nuffin’. Wtf? Well MOSSAD will look at the sat pics and definitely know! That means it’s an op on YOU. The world public. He knows, they know, each knows the other knows, but neither will be able to persuade the PEOPLE now. THAT is who they are bombing. …Other than sand lizards.

    …This is too long and I seriously don’t have time for this level of input.

    #190890
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Destroy China!

    Wait……what?!?

    India?
    That’s Bigotry, right?

    From JD’s post not Hamel Vance:

      Troubled Factories: The medications came mostly from plants in India where inspectors found contaminated drugs, filthy labs and falsified records.
      FDA Secrecy: The agency did not proactively inform the public when drugs were exempted from import bans, and it did not routinely test the medications to ensure they were safe.​

    Nah, can’t be India and Indians.

    They must have misspelled China and Chinese

    #190891
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Got around to the Kunstler article, who is the exact audience of the Iran Kayfabe? Howard Kunstler. He is EXACTLY their target audience. And look: it worked.

    #190892
    zerosum
    Participant

    CNN – Sow doubt that underground facilities were destroyed.
    The danger has not been eliminated.
    Keep the reason for attacking Iran alive.
    Keep the war going. Keep Israel armed.

    #190893
    zerosum
    Participant

    Opinion to think about
    They don’t have to rabbit hole the gases and pressure wave will find their way down.

    Understanding how the powerplant for this uranium enrichment facility was designed and operated is the key to how it was attacked. They needed to generate alot of power to operate the centrifuges. Solar, wind and hydro
    are out. As is nuclear and coal, not enough water. An underground transmission line would have been detected and cut long ago. Industrial gas turbine power generating sets are the only feasible option; and they’re like operating a quardron of jet fighters underground. What would be obvious from the power generation would be the thermal plumes of the ventilation exhaust.

    Even if as you say they are located away from the facility they can be traced back to where the ventilation shaft goes vertically down to the bunker. The shafts will be near the surface if they run horizontal because of maintenance. Both the supplies and exhaust will be powered with fans.

    It’s the smart way to attack this underground facility, use the access points the Iranian provided for you. If this was the approach it could have been done with fewer moabs.

    Posted by: Jerr | Jun 25 2025 0:26 utc | 571

    #190894
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Two US destroyers said to be spotted close to Isr. for air defense yesterday.

    Just yesterday, June 23rd, satellite imagery caught a striking scene off Haifa.

    Two #USN Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers poised for air defense, while closer in, two [Isr.] Sa’ar corvettes & a patrol boat stood guard.

    https://xcancel.com/MT_Anderson/status/1937681824773222457

    #190895
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    Obliterated

    #190896
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    About a week old now, written by a former member of the “cult”, as she describes it.

    What’s Going On Inside Israel Right Now?
    Ongoing impressions from the Israeli media
    Avigail Abarbane

    Since that 1991 Iraqi scud attack, Israel has introduced building regulations to install something they call ‘protective spaces’. I didn’t know what they were and then discovered they’re basically concrete boxes that are fitted into flats and buildings for people to hide in. In places constructed before ‘protective spaces’ regulations were introduced, people could buy ready made ones and install them in their flat, if there is room and if they could afford them. There are certified and non-certified versions of these boxes; the non-certified obviously are cheaper and poorer quality. In the Tel Aviv satellite town of Petach Tikvah a missile hit one of those ‘protective spaces’ directly in a flat on the fourth floor of an apartment building killing the couple sheltering inside. In another attack in the same town, a missile exploded between two of those boxes killing everyone. The psychology behind these things is more important than their physical function. A civilian population that feels powerless to protect itself is dangerous. Powerlessness generates rage which can translate to anti-government riots. Back in 1991, when concerns were raised that Saddam Hussain might use chemical warheads, the Israeli government distributed gas masks to every citizen. Those of us who had training in chemical warfare could see immediately that those masks would be useless against nerve gas, which enters the body through exposed skin. Gas masks can only protect against gas that enters through the respiratory system. In other words, it was completely nonsensical. If Saddam Hussain actually used chemical warheads, countless would have died while wearing gas masks. I never bothered putting mine on…. But people needed to feel that they could do something to protect themselves. Something tells me that those boxes, which look increasingly like death traps are intended to fulfil the same function.


    What’s Going On Inside Israel Right Now?

    #190897
    Doc Robinson
    Participant
    #190898
    zerosum
    Participant

    My argument is the bomb does not have to go down the shafts. The explosion of the bomb over/near a shafts directly connected to the underground facility is sufficient for destruction. The shafts will act like a barrels of a flamethrower directing the blast like a flame into the underground facility itself. Thus. the bomb itself does not have to penetrative to the full depth of the chamber.

    Posted by: Jerr | Jun 25 2025 2:36 utc | 634

    #190899
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    D summary:

      “Ritter Ritter former Marine pedo blah blah blah furthermore bloviate.”

      (((Pause for dramatic effect)))

      “This is too long and I seriously don’t have time for this level of input.”

      (((Exit stage left microphone drop))))

    No way
    Yes!!!
    Total victorious…..

    #190900

    I appreciated this interview with Mike Benz. It’s really long (3 plus hours!) but it’s worth it.
    Before we kill the blob, we better understand what it does.

    #190901
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Impeachment Vote failed almost directly along logical fallacy lines, ad hominem style .

    Damn.
    It.
    I meant almost directly not along party lines and Sundance dips ever more deeply into Ds pool of….Madness, you know, the Hervey Cleckley’s Mask of Sanity variety.

    Sounds like Carte Blanche Time even in The Time of Illegal Aggressive War Time harkening back to August 1990 and March 2003.

    Anyhow, Sundance TCTH further debases herself in line with Ds regular and usual performative art pulls out “Caveman.” You know why? Coz it works. That’s the why the Shame of Ritter continues to resonate on these pages. It’s all A Thing

    Sundance:

    Title: Even A Caveman Can’t Do It – Impeachment Vote Fails as Democrats Join with Republicans

      Representative Al Green’s effort to impeach President Trump over the nuclear strikes in Iran failed miserably.  Even the majority of Democrats would not go along with it.  Caveman big sad.

      Most House Democrats joined with Republicans on Tuesday to quash an effort to impeach President Donald Trump over his weekend Iran strikes.

      Rep. Al Green’s impeachment resolution was tabled on a 344-79 vote, with 128 Democrats joining all 216 Republicans to kill the measure.

      Ad hominem is a logical fallacy that occurs when someone attacks the person instead of attacking his or her argument. It is sometimes called name calling or the personal attack fallacy. This fallacy can occur when someone rejects or undermines an argument by attacking the character, credentials, or other personal traits of the person presenting it, instead of addressing the issue at hand. 

    Where arguements and ideas fail….

    #190902
    WES
    Participant

    Lying Israeli Zionists:

    Zionists leaders obviously think little about lying to their own Jewish people, like they do to everybody else.
    Right now Jews can’t easily leave Israel.
    They are trapped inside a concentration camp!
    Once they are able to leave, it will be interesting to see just how many decide to leave.
    This may hurt Israel more deeply than an all of the Iranian missiles.

    #190925
    Noirette
    Participant

    Thierry Meyssan, in line w. my prev. post. Just one aspect of course.

    The confrontation between Israel and Iran does not at all correspond to the image presented by the media. Its roots lie in a period before the Islamic Republic and has no connection with the construction of a nuclear bomb. Its outbreak today is intended to conceal the misdeeds of the Argentinian Rafael Grossi, director of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

    (…)

    Iran was the victim, in 1917-1919, of the largest genocide of the First World War. 6 to 8 million people died of starvation out of a population of 18 to 20 million, or between a quarter and a third of Iranians. Iran, although neutral, was crushed by the British armies, against a backdrop of rivalry with the Bolsheviks and the Ottomans. This horror has left a traumatic memory that is still very present in Iran. There is no doubt for an Iranian that the United Kingdom is his country’s primary enemy.

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article222523.htm
    —————
    The pretext of **Iran Nuclear enrichment > Nukes** was, is, ridiculous, as we all know. The narrative is window-dressing the ‘public’, TV watchers, etc. However it affords the Creators of this BS a sort of Comfort Zone where they can adhere, believe in, their group-thing, uphold it, etc., and act in function of it…

    #190930
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks Noirette.

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