Debt Rattle July 31 2021
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July 31, 2021 at 8:09 am #81568Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Vincent van Gogh Weeping woman 1883 • UK Gov’t Panel: Covid Mutation With 35% Death Rate ‘Realistic Possibility’ (RT) • CDC Releases Study Show
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle July 31 2021]July 31, 2021 at 9:08 am #81570oxymoronParticipantWeeping woman is a triumph. I studied at art school twice and that technical/emotional achievement is incredible. Cave painting level insight
July 31, 2021 at 9:17 am #81571V. ArnoldParticipant@ Archie from Rattle 30 yesterday
I fully sympathise with your frustration of Cafone’s incessant rants, but…
What you’re experiencing is the real deal of free speech, delivered by Ilargi at his blog.
Voltaire said it best:Voltaire’s tolerance finds its highest expression in the famous sentence of his letter to Helvetius: “I wholly disapprove of what you say and will defend to the death your right to say it.”
I know of no other place like the Debt Rattle; but, isn’t this what free speech is in actuality?
Hang in there man, and enjoy what we have here…the real deal…free speech…July 31, 2021 at 10:27 am #81572Michael ReidParticipant@ V. Arnold
Bravo
July 31, 2021 at 11:06 am #81573Mister RobotoParticipantI didn’t read it yet, but it was very heartening to learn of the Ivermectin article in WSJ yesterday. 🙂
July 31, 2021 at 11:41 am #81574those darned kidsParticipantlast january, the air smelt funny, so i bought 4 months worth of food.
good thing i did. my wife was sick all of march/april with the thing. i didn’t have to go to the store, thus quarantining ourselves, and also avoiding the scary lines and toilet paper fights.
last night, we bought 4 months worth of food again. the smells even funnier this time.
cross all toes!
July 31, 2021 at 11:45 am #81575HuskynutParticipantFrom the previous thread:
“How many readers read all of THE cafone’s incessant postings and how many don’t get past the first sentence?
How many people would like THE cafone to find another way of handling his ADHD outside of the TAE environment?”
Occam’s razor – a frequently morphing account emerges that dominates and frequently and increasingly misdirects discussion.
Such an account is:
a) probably genuine. They need a home and place to express themselves (ie a real appeal to genuine emotion)
b) most likely BS. TAE is a genuine and effective community and must be disrupted. Inject maximum BS to achieve the result
Myself, I’m with b). Best solutions?July 31, 2021 at 11:59 am #81576Dr. DParticipantThrough 120 and beyond!
“who wouldn’t want to ban the Oath Keepers or Proud Boys?”Aaaaand we’re already way over the line. In purity test. Who wouldn’t want to ban veterans and black AfroCubans? Niiiiice. Did they commit a crime? No, because if they had, you would have said so.
Did they burn down $1.2B in damage and kill 55 people? No. Those people are NOT banned.
And there we have “some animals…”
But hey – that’s why we invented Bitcoin and mesh networks, right?
“ Craig Murray’s Jailing the Latest Move to Kill Independent Journalism (Cook)”
First they came for the dog-training comedians…
Then they came for housewives who use gender or have opinions…
Are we the baddies yet?
July 31, 2021 at 12:18 pm #81578madamski cafoneParticipantI agree with those darned kids. The air smells funny again. It will be a Costco weekend for us.
July 31, 2021 at 12:38 pm #81579those darned kidsParticipantat craig murray’s own website there is a heartbreaking note written by his wife:
I was brought up during Soviet times, and post independence in my own country, Uzbekistan. I have witnessed and personally experienced myself what the price of freedom of speech truly is. Opponents were ‘disappeared’ or it was claimed they had ‘taken their own life’, or been locked away in asylums. I am filled with fear this pattern is now repeating itself in the UK. It is appalling to see Craig is going through the same treatment in the so-called ‘human rights’ respecting country UK.
July 31, 2021 at 12:47 pm #81580democritusParticipantJuly 31, 2021 at 12:49 pm #81581madamski cafoneParticipant“Such an account is:
a) probably genuine. They need a home and place to express themselves (ie a real appeal to genuine emotion)
b) most likely BS. TAE is a genuine and effective community and must be disrupted. Inject maximum BS to achieve the result
Myself, I’m with b). Best solutions?”Since I am deemed a worthy topic although I do no gain-of-functin viral research or influence natinal monetary policy or hatch global domination schemes, and a referendum is called for, I’ll cast my wvote with a).
I think you guys should circulate a petition against me. Form a committee. Get a rope or at least some tar&feathers or maybe an app for dissing dissidents. I’ll be away doing real things in physical reality, but I am oh so excited to see what has become of me when I return in a few days.
This is fascinating albeit in a sadly predictable way. We are the neighbors in our neighborhood.
And remember:
July 31, 2021 at 12:50 pm #81582willemParticipantAmazing foresight by Van Gogh, who knew exactly what AOC looked like before she was even born!
July 31, 2021 at 1:34 pm #81583oxymoronParticipantI’m with a) – not to be anyone’s friend – although I happen to like Bosco Horrowitz but I am instructed by the permaculture maxim – the problem is the solution. So even if said problem was b) then having them on the site makes us stronger and solves the problem with the robust fitness of anything goes in a free world.
At least that is how I think I feel about the topic.July 31, 2021 at 1:39 pm #81584Mr. HouseParticipantJuly 31, 2021 at 1:47 pm #81585zerosumParticipantScience fiction
Is the pen more powerful than your imagination.
A tale of two possibilitiesBOOK #1
” …. a series of hypothetical scenarios related to Covid-19 variants, finding it a “realistic possibility”
…. existing vaccines would remain effective against “serious disease”
….. it nonetheless added that “an increase in morbidity and mortality would be expected even in the face of vaccination,”
….. might happen when the immune system will no longer be able to produce antibodies for new emerging variants,
….. urging for increased investment in viral surveillance to keep tabs on new mutations.”BOOK #2
• Fauci *ADMITS* I Was Right In Spring of 2020 (Denninger)
• Protect the most-vulnerable who cannot protect themselves.
• Urge immediate intervention with suspected or believed effective drugs
The list of said drugs includes hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, budesonide, famotidine and a few others.
natural infection has now proved superior to vaccination (note that nobody is seriously claiming Delta and other “variants” evade natural immunity)
• Those who are at statistically-zero risk of serious harm or death (e.g. healthy children) should be encouraged to live normally and expect to get the virus.
———July 31, 2021 at 1:49 pm #81586Doc RobinsonParticipantThis simple graph shows how the delta variant is far less deadly than earlier variants in the UK.
Cases compared to Deaths, for each of the three waves.
https://blog-gerard.maudrux.fr/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/image-16-768×568.pnghttps://blog-gerard.maudrux.fr/2021/07/26/le-variant-delta-en-chiffres/
July 31, 2021 at 1:53 pm #81587upstateNYerParticipantI’ll drop my thoughts here on the madam tribunal, though I’m not inviting debate with this and won’t respond to responses debating it. Simply making a personal observation that is maybe worthy of consideration. Maybe not. Of no consequence in my personal life so I don’t care.
Although this is Raul’s blog and he has every right to moderate and censor comments, he doesn’t. Raul, in fact, frequently provides links to stories that condemn censoring of any sort.
If you don’t like someone’s comments, don’t read them. IF madam posts too many comments for your taste, don’t read them and don’t respond. No one can “hijack” a board if you don’t read their comments and respond. Your participation in that conversation directly feeds the so-called hijack.
As @Dr D commented above: “who wouldn’t want to ban the Oath Keepers or Proud Boys?” ….
Aaaaand we’re already way over the line. In purity test.Indeed. And what’s next?
Veracious is too “woo woo” because he shared a personal NDE?
Dr D sometimes sounds “racist”?
WES’s stories of his time in Russia are “misinformation”?
John Day is sharing info on unapproved treatments? (don’t roll your eyes – admit to yourself it could happen, even here)I won’t *vote* either a) or b)
I *vote* that we leave each to their own and stfu about it.
July 31, 2021 at 1:57 pm #81588Mister RobotoParticipant@Doc R: One thing that confuses me about that chart is that for the first wave, deaths radically exceed cases. Could that be because “cases” in this graph are all the cases that were ultimately non-fatal, while fatalities were placed in a category by themselves with no overlap?
July 31, 2021 at 2:02 pm #81589Mister RobotoParticipantOr one could just do with madamski what I do with Dr. D’s tirades. Skim the first paragraph to see if the offering might something compelling and then promptly move on once it stops making anything one might even remotely call logical sense.
July 31, 2021 at 2:08 pm #81590Doc RobinsonParticipantMeanwhile, in Sweden…
In contrast to its European neighbors, Sweden is welcoming tourists. Businesses and schools are open with almost no restrictions. And as far as masks are concerned, not only is there no mandate in place, Swedish health officials are not even recommending them.
What are the results of Sweden’s much-derided laissez-faire policy? Data show the 7-day rolling average for COVID deaths yesterday was zero
Sweden dropped its last remaining mask recommendation – related to public transport – on July 1. While Sweden’s public health agency has supported measures such as social distancing and remote working, it has no recommendations for the use of face coverings in public spaces.
https://www.rt.com/news/530759-sweden-delta-masks-zero-covid-deaths/
July 31, 2021 at 2:15 pm #81591Mister RobotoParticipant@Doc R: Nevermind, just noticed that “deaths” and “cases” have seperate axes on the graph.
July 31, 2021 at 2:16 pm #81592Doc RobinsonParticipant[deleted unnecessary reply to Mister Roboto]
July 31, 2021 at 2:20 pm #81593Mister RobotoParticipantCaitlin Johnstone has some compelling things to say about the most recent Twitter manifestations of Trump Derangement Syndrome and the miserable moral bankruptcy of “Team Blue”.
July 31, 2021 at 2:40 pm #81594upstateNYerParticipant@Mister, thank you for the link to the johnstone post (I don’t know who Keith Olbermann is, don’t watch much TV, but it doesn’t really matter who he is, does it)
July 31, 2021 at 2:46 pm #81595Mister RobotoParticipantKeith Olbermann made something of a name for himself with Team Blue in the wake of President W’s invasion of Iraq by criticizing that President and his policies in some pretty fiery terms. That he recently made some kind of public apology to Bush Jr., and that a lot of neo-libs are trying rehabilitate that former president, really drives it home about Team Blue having no real remaining moral compass.
July 31, 2021 at 2:48 pm #81596Mister RobotoParticipantAnd BTW, Olbermann’s TDS makes Rachel Maddow look like the very voice of reason itself in comparison.
July 31, 2021 at 3:02 pm #81597upstateNYerParticipant@Mister: thank you for providing details on olbermann. SO sorry I missed him. 😉
July 31, 2021 at 3:23 pm #81598those darned kidsParticipantMeanwhile, in Sweden…
grrrrrrrrrrr……………..
[i don’t really want to add more;* nonetheless, the written ¿word? perhaps does not convey the fact that i’ve been saying “Meanwhile, in Sweden…” to myself EVERY DAY FOR THE LAST 17,353,498 HOURS OF DUMPDOWN, LUMPDOWN, DROWNDOWN AND CRAPDOWN** imposed on us prolitos, “little proles”, by the sociopathists*** who have chosen themselves to be our leaders. i.e. Meanwhile, in Sweden… i.e. i agree with thee.]
*apologies for the semi;colon, kurt
**in other words, grrrrrrrrrrr……………..
***©2021 TDK LLC, Wilmington, DelawareJuly 31, 2021 at 3:35 pm #81599KimoParticipantCritical Race Theory
Realization: I am the recipient of an incredible expanse of white privilege over the course of my life.
I make amends: I hereby resolve not to step in line, ahead of my brothers of color, until every last one of them has received the benefits of the experimental mRNA vaccine. Worldwide.
Your welcome.July 31, 2021 at 3:36 pm #81600Mr. HouseParticipantMore people realizing debating is essentially pointless at this stage
July 31, 2021 at 3:52 pm #81601Susmarie108ParticipantWe are a cast of characters in the PLAY called LIFE. We “perform” in many venues. On stage at TAE we have quite a lineup, and I am personally inspired, intrigued, engaged by the players/participants here. Our Host does an incredible job of providing content that attracts a wide collection of players who come and go, appear and disappear at their choosing. There is no one more authentic, beautiful, and wise than John Day who always brings perspective with LOVE. Madam and Dr D offer insight and depth – painful and pleasurable. Contributors – Sumac, NY, Phoenix, Arnold, oxy, Mister, Zero, Doc, Germ, Kids, Michael and the rest of the cast, make this a true reflection of LIFE and a daily destination worth exploring. The formula is working, let it be.
My role (in between the occasional rant) is to bring LOVE. Remembering that we always have a choice in how we respond to LIFE, we perform according to “plan”.
Prayer of Saint Francis of Assisi
OM, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred let me sow LOVE;
Where there is injury, pardon;
Where there is doubt, faith;
Where there is despair, hope;
Where there is darkness, light;
Where there is sadness, joy.
OM, grant that I may not so much seek
To be consoled as to console;
To be understood as to understand;
To be loved as to LOVE.
For it is in giving that we receive;
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
And it is in dying that we are born to eternal TRUTH.July 31, 2021 at 3:54 pm #81602Mr. HouseParticipantThis person seems to be advocating for people being locked in camps behind fences, am i reading this right?
LawnDart
July 31, 2021 at 10:36 amOppose the right-wing campaign against vaccination
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/07/29/pers-j29.html
Some food for thought brought to us by socialists, echos many sentiments that I’ve heard expressed in comments here.
“Right-wing” encompasses both dems and repubs, who differ only in terms of messaging– no person of integrity would belong to or support either party, neither of which serve our common interests.
The question is, how to bring them down?
Years ago, after a few cocktails with friends, pushing my bike while walking home with some of them through a gentrifying part of the city and passing a newly-built, high-priced (“exclusive”) condo complex surrounded by high walls and a tall, barred gate at the drive, we bitterly conversed about how all they needed was a moat in order to completely cut themselves from the neighborhood. I think my bicycle lock somehow got attached to the gates, in effect, double-locking them. All we needed was a “KEEP OUT!” sign facing inward and the picture would have been complete, but alas, we had neither cardboard or pen.
Just a reminder that walls and gates work both ways.
July 31, 2021 at 4:05 pm #81603Mr. HouseParticipantIf only Yves would give them a scathing tongue lashing, like she did me when i suggested Dr’s and Nurses are human and corruptible. TAE summary, something you failed to mention with your two narratives. One is being pushed with all the resources of all world .govs and corporations, the other is being censored and ridiculed and essentially strangled in the crib. What does that say? One has been consistently incorrect and forever revised as this bad television show continues. What does that say?
July 31, 2021 at 4:11 pm #81604those darned kidsParticipantshakespeare said, “all the world’s a stage, and the men and women merely players”
well, at this point the stage is so crowded, we’re all just extras and if we’re lucky we get to be “angry customer #2”, “innocent bystander”, or, if you get your 15 seconds, “fake shemp” – that is, until they replace you with an approved sociopathist.
July 31, 2021 at 4:11 pm #81605Mr. HouseParticipantI think i misread their comment: they are actually advocating for Dems and repubs to be locked in camps? Maybe i need coffee.
July 31, 2021 at 4:19 pm #81606Mister RobotoParticipant@Mr. House, WRT of “Consent Factory” article: I think one of the reasons it took me a while to wake up is how hard it can to admit things really are getting as bad as this article describes. I mean, I foresaw things taking a very dark turn back in 1994 when I realized that “nothing is going to save us”, but I certainly didn’t predict anything like this. But then again, I was a 27-year-old going through a psychiatric episode, so maybe I just didn’t want to think about it too deeply.
July 31, 2021 at 4:27 pm #81607Mr. HouseParticipantWow! Just Wow
“This is not due to the tests failing or confusing SARS-CoV-2 with influenza, however, but in order to transition toward using a test that can facilitate the diagnosis of both viruses.”
Am i having problems reading again? Where’s that coffee?
July 31, 2021 at 4:31 pm #81608Mr. HouseParticipantSo the test can diagnose both, but we need to have a test that can diagnose both……….
July 31, 2021 at 4:34 pm #81609Susmarie108Participant@UpNY: Keith Olbermann played a leading role in standing against the invasion of Iraq. In those days he was a lone wolf and non-stop rant machine! Anyway, I was a fan because this was also my position and there were few advocating (with gusto) to stop the march to war. In the end, the voices were silenced and the will of the people was over-ridden and Rummy/Cheney got their war. It was through this experience that I UNDERSTOOD on some level where words do not exist – that the whole thing was fixed from the start. The will of the people did not/never mattered. Around that time Olbermann “got fired” ? and disappeared.
@Mister: the “conversion” and “resurrection” of KO is interesting. The complete switching of sides in defense of what? This corruption is something I struggle to comprehend. I agree that it is at the heart of the destruction of Team Blue/Democratic Party – and so much more. Welcome to #OPPOSITE LAND.
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