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Hi Ash, given a real world definition of “capitalism,” I wholeheartedly agree. Of course some group is going to use their wealth and power to game the system – that is true in both ideal communism and ideal capitalism. That’s why both are ideals and not realities. We are stuck with oligarchical dictatorships. The lucky get the soft dictatorship, the unfortunate get the hard dictatorship.
I think the term “discipline” is too vague. I know it has a well thought out meaning for you, but others won’t “get it.” Debt Dollar Tyranny is more clear as to what it actually is, IMHO. It is tyranny all the way.
At the end of the day, it seems that caring for one’s neighbor equal to themselves is actually a true requirement in order for humanity to live a life of peace and abundance. No, that concept did not originate with myself. 😉
We live in interesting times. 😉
Porkpie post=1916 wrote: I think this is heartbreaking. I also think we need a better narrative. Right now, “both sides” are fighting for the same thing. The “unionized left” wants to return to good pay and buying power for their members, via a return to growth thanks to government spending. The “free-market right” wants to return to good pay and buying power via business stimulation and innovation thanks to government austerity.
The problem here is the notion of good pay and buying power. A billion people could kill themselves and we would have no greater chance of good pay and buying power–we are having the wrong conversation.
I like the Archdruid’s take: There is no better future.
***apologies for all the quotation marks. I am trying to indicate that I understand these are clumsy generalizations.
Porkpie, Debt Dollar Tyranny was **engineered** to create this outcome.
Poverty: Debt is not a Choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juQc0rLdB-EWhen Money is Debt; Wealth *is* Poverty (article is detailed – but stick with it due to the critical nature of the subject)
https://www.extraenvironmentalist.com/blog/dispatches/236https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3325954/debt-dollar-tyranny-2-54k
It’s the monetary system is Debt Dollar Tyranny engineered to systematically asset strip whole nations for the benefits of the Architect class and their descendants and “inner party” at the expense of everyone else.
Joe Banister is a former IRS insider who ran face to face into the Debt Dollar Tyrant managing class… he’s a true hero and his story is worth listening to and comprehending…
IRS Insider Joe Banister Exposes Federal Reserve Coup and IRS Fraud
Hi Ash,
As another piece of evidence of incredible media control exerted by the Debt Dollar Tyrant, take a look at this marked up chart orginally created by Karl Denninger…
https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3324744/wmdebt-graph-3-79k
That data comes directly from the Federal Reserve – and it is clear evidence of criminal activity running for 25 years or more.
Most people think that the Federal Reserve mandate is low unemployment and “stable prices” (“stable” redefined as ever inflating prices) – the so called “dual mandate.”
That’s not their mandate. They lie about their mandate in a way that would make Eric Blair (George Orwell) blush.
https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section2a.htm
“[mandate begins]The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal Open Market Committee shall maintain long run growth of the monetary and credit aggregates commensurate with the economy’s long run potential [/mandate ends] to [expected results of following mandate begins] increase production, so as to promote effectively the goals of maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-term interest rates [/expected results of following mandate].”
You’ll never hear the true Fed mandate on the “news.” Ever.
Why? Because they criminally broke the mandate in order to blow the world’s largest credit bubble in human history – and history is clear that every bubble ends in a bust about inversely proportional to the size of the bubble.
Hence, I’m waiting for the greatest depression in human history – and the chance for the Debt Dollar Tyrants to consolidate the world’s wealth and eliminate civil liberties and freedoms for those they want to rule over. This isn’t “theory,” Ash, this is what is really going on! Right out in the open.
I was at a local Occupy group discussing how the media was controlled with a few other guys. A woman approached me and said, “Not Democracy Now” in an attempt to claim that Democracy Now was not controlled. She and her son had on “Democracy Now” sweatshirts – so they were sporting their point of view.
I looked her in the eyes and asked, “Do you understand a debt based money?”
“I’ve understood debt based money since 1979,” she confidently and proudly replied.
I replied, “Have you ever heard Amy Goodman talk about debt based money?”
She looked at me for a second and said, “No.”
I said, “Controlled.”
She looked at me for another second and then said, “You know what, I think you are right.”
That’s not to say that everyone is controlled equally – everyone has a role a play in this divide and conquer, scientific, psychological, sociological, pharmacological, Debt Dollar Tyranny, facsimile capitalist dictatorship that didn’t just happen – it was engineered.
Read Eisenhower’s fairwell address (note that the Debt Dollar Tyrants are majority owners in the Military Industrial complex and that they use their media and wealth to put their operatives into government – nobody can out bid them and nobody has the sway of their controlled media – UNTIL PEOPLE REALIZE THE CON GAME BEING PLAYED AGAINST THEM!)…
“In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.”
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“The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present – and is gravely to be regarded.Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”
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“Down the long lane of the history yet to be written America knows that this world of ours, ever growing smaller, must avoid becoming a community of dreadful fear and hate, and be, instead, a proud confederation of mutual trust and respect. [implied counter to the wishes of the scientific-technological elite]”Hi Ash,
You make excellent points about complexity and nuance and the dangers of oversimplification into boxes. Human minds seem to have a tendency to over simplify and the social engineers use this to their advantage.
My effort to deconstruct the system (and the key is to view it as a system, not individual components) in which I find myself, it appears to follow this pattern:
1. Construct Debt Dollar Tyranny and develop a plan to inflict it on the world. I use the term “The Architects” for the people who devised and created this tyrannical financial system. How many people are part of this “Architect” class? Not many. I’d be surprised if it was over 1,000. I could be less than 20 or 30 – and Debt Dollar Tyranny is impoverishing the entire world at this very moment – so that’s LOT of power wielded by very few people. The Debt Dollar Trojan Horse in America is the Federal Reserve System.
2. Create a facsimile “capitalist” society in which those with the most money (debt receipts) win control of the nation’s resources. Debt Dollar Tyranny ensures that the few insiders who created the financial fraud will always have the most money and will always come out on top in the chase for debt receipt money. As this group accumulates wealth, everyone else accumulates debt. So, whatever power this tiny group had back in 1913 when they set up Debt Dollar Tyranny on America is magnitudes greater after nearly 100 years of societal asset stripping.
3. While Debt Dollar Tyranny is probably the single most newsworthy item in the world over the last 100 years or so, nobody in the mainstream press covers it. If you think that is an accident and ignorance keeps Debt Dollar Tyranny off the main stream airways, please feel free to call up all the major news and educate them. I bet all that happens is you get on a “list.” Again, what entity can “compete” for major news media with a small cabal of people who gamed the nation’s monetary system and have siphoned off several percent of the nation’s economic activity every year for nearly 100 a hundred years?
4. This group’s “Wizard of Oz” curtain appears to be corporate fronts. That is where they hide – behind their corporate fronts. Anything big and powerful is almost assuredly controlled by the Debt Dollar Tyrants – either directly or through people who have aligned themselves with them. Again, who can stand against a cabal that literally asset strips major portions of the economy every year? If they want to put you out of business – who can resist? Especially when thy own or control the major news media.
5. The rest of society appears to be controlled through Debt Dollar Tyranny facsimile economic overlay – people want money (debt receipts) and they send their labor and physical resources to the people who have the most “money.” That group, of course, is the cabal of Debt Dollar Tyrants. But the average person or CEO doesn’t know this since the education system sells the idea of “capitalism” and how it is good without every telling anyone the deep, dark secret – it isn’t really capitalism, it is a facsimile capitalist over lay on top of Debt Dollar Tyranny that is engineered to bankrupt its host nation and EMPOWER those very few Debt Dollar Tyrants. After all, they didn’t criminally rig the monetary system in order to enrich someone else and impoverish themselves… that’s Econ 101.
Ii think the above very accurately describes the history and current reality in which we live.
People will reach different conclusions, but to me it is obvious that there is a conspiracy to create a fraudulent monetary system, over lay it with a capitalist facsimile to hide the criminality under the veneer of credibility and eventually bankrupt entire societies (that is the 100% certain outcome of Debt Dollar Tyranny – there is no other way out) for the benefit of those who set up this criminal operation – and their offspring.
Oh, and that makes Henry Ford right – and it sounds like he had insider knowledge as the world’s #1 industrialist who had to work with these international financiers.
Now this is where the social controllers want to trigger the “he must be anti-Semitic” trigger they’ve implanted into people. No, this is about good and evil and nothing else. It has NOTHING to do with race or religious background or skin color or anything else.
It has to do with people who do not care for their neighbor as they care for themselves – and that’s a content of character issue. Truth be told, it is almost a certainty that people of all colors and claimed religions are involved in this conspiracy at very high levels. Semitic peoples are being brutalized by Debt Dollar Tyranny on the whole, as is everyone else in common society.
They also hide in complexity – and most folks tune out when things get complex.
These graphics might clarify how Debt Dollar Tyranny was **engineered** to work.
Debt Dollar Tyranny
https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3325954/debt-dollar-tyranny-2-54kThe Grand Chessboard
https://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3229221/grand-chessboard-324kThe Debt Dollar Tyranny system’s mode of action was entirely known BEFORE it was even forced upon the American people and the Western world and (and the operation to enslave the Muslim world to Debt Dollar Tyranny is under way).
Africa is impoverished precisely because the Debt Dollar Tyrants put their operatives in power in Africa (skin color doesn’t matter – many of these evil operatives are dark skinned, people. Content of character matters… skin color is correlation, not causation – Debt Dollar Tyrants are causation, but they want people focused on correlation.) and inflict horrible crimes against the common person and they arm, divide and conquer as $25,000 in Debt Dollar Tyranny “loot” is stripped out of sub Saharan Africa per second (Speaking Freely, Vol 2 Susan George)…
Hi Ash, I think Christoulas made it clear why he killed himself… he wanted to die in a way that was more “dignified” than eating out of a garbage can and being a burden to his children – apparently because his pension was looted by banking oligarch operatives operating within the power structure of the Greece’s Central State apparatus.
I agree – this man speaks the truth and the bankster controlled “media” is just shilling for those that make their jobs possible – either through direct corporate ownership or by giving loans to people they know will “play ball.”
Remember, Hitler was “freeing Germans” from the bonds of “foreign powers” and that “NAZI” was short hand for “National Socialist German Workers’ Party.”
Yes, Hitler worked on behalf of the common worker. NOT! But this wolf carefully crafted his “sheep suit” and the people went along with it – not wanting to make waves.
Which is a good segue into the way the social engineers use language to manipulate people WRT to forms of government.
Again, we need to really follow Socrates example and *think* about the meaning of words.
Take “Communism” for example. There is an idealized version of the word, which I think is how you apply the term. However, there is a practical definition of the word that is essential “sheep’s clothing” for a wicked oligarchical dictatorship.
The latter is the reality. Idealized communism actually sounds like a decent program so long as everyone in the community agrees to go about it in a voluntary way. Once you bring in a government of force (gun and jail cell), the sophisticated criminals lust after gaming that system to their advantage and it then turns into an oligarchical dictatorship in short order. But they won’t call it that… they lie and call it “communism.”
The reason the American press lies about the true nature of oligarchical dictatorships hiding under the guise of “communism” is that America is also an oligarchical dictatorship, albeit, a much softer one that is currently “hardening” at an alarming rate.
You see, if Americans were told the truth – that all the nations outside America are ruled by oligarchical dictartoships… they’d then look at America and ask the correct question – “If all other nations are oligarchical dictatorships, what about America?”
Granted, it is a “scientific” oligarchical dictatorship that uses the sciences in order to enslave us (mathematics of Debt Dollar Tyranny, economics gamed by Debt Dollar Tyranny – they always win big b/c they have a license to steal from the nation, psychology, economics, sociology, pharmacology, etc…).
America is not a “capitalist” society. Russia, China, etc. are not “communist” societies.
The communist vs. capitalist narrative is an oligarch psy-op to keep people from realizing the truth – we are all under the thumb, albeit to varying degrees, of a very small group of very corrupt and criminal people.
George Carlin ~ The American Dream (some bad language, A+ content)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2QIRS Insider Joe Banister Exposes Federal Reserve Coup and IRS Fraud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEL2uOG9JrcThe narratives pushed by the mega bankster institutions are almost always completely false… I don’t think I’ve heard one that is true. Yes, they appear reasonable and believable at a surface level, but they aren’t true when you dig down deep.
“War is all about deception” – Sun Tzu
“The best warriors never have to fight.” Sun Tzu
What price the new democracy? Goldman Sachs conquers Europe
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/what-price-the-new-democracy-goldman-sachs-conquers-europe-6264091.htmlIf we don’t understand the game, there is no chance we can resist it or fight it off – and those who are dividing us / impoverishing us / enslaving us / asset stripping us / killing us off know this very, very well.
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debt.”
~Henry Ford (the world’s leading industrialist of his era)*Believe* your lying eyes – we can’t let the modern day Sophists trick us due to their misuse of language (h/t to Eric Blair – George Orwell – for the heads up)
Hi R.E., I understand your view and, given your definition of wealth, it makes sense.
Thanks for the “passed” vs “past” note – I subconsciously used “past” without a thought, but I’m not sure why. I’ll chalk it up to one of those things that felt so right right at the time, but is ultimately just plain wrong.
“Passed” is the winner, though, so hopefully my subconscious isn’t beyond an update. 😉
Reverse Engineer post=1829 wrote: [quote=MR166 post=1826]”People do not “create wealth”. People only do Work to reform the Wealth that is out there into different forms, at the expense of some energy transformation and entropy depletion.”
What a bunch of BS.
Are you trying to tell me that a farmer is not creating wealth by harvesting his crops or that someone who creates shelter from the forest is not creating wealth? Even mining a non renewable source of minerals is creating permanent wealth if they can be recycled.
Absolutely, that is exactly what I am telling you. When a farmer harvests crops out of the earth, he is depleting the soil to do it. You can recycle waste through the soil to maintain fertility, but over millenia as long as you run itnensive agriculture you eventualy deplete the soil and or water table. The Middle East is the result of that.
Taking Minerals and changing their form isn’t creating wealth. An Iphone is just a collection of rare earths and semiconductors which in the absence of electical energy is just a neatly constructed paperweight. without the energy, there is no Wealth in an Iphone.
All wealth stems from taking Energy stores and moving them downhill, in essence burning them up. When you run out of the store of potential energy to run the gradient, you run out of Wealth. POOF.
The amount of Wealth you can access without Machines which run on the thermodynamic energy of fossil fuels is exceedingly small by comparison, but in any event nobody ever “creates” wealth. They merely harvest it in some manner, or steal it from some other part of nature. Besides what the Sun rains down each day on the earth and some geophysical energy, all the “Wealth” that is here has always been here, it just gets redistributed. Take away from Biological diversity, expand the Human population, etc. Zero Sum Game baby.
RE
https://www.doomsteaddiner.org
Hi RE and MR166, you two are defining “wealth” in to different ways.IMHO, you are both right in your own way, but talking past each other because you haven’t “gone Socrates” and thought about the different way in which you use the term “wealth” and how that might change the dynamics of the discussion.
When a person is on an island and 3 minutes away from a dehydration death, you better believe that person would value the rain storage system set up he came across as “additional wealth” even though, in the way you define the term “wealth,” it is merely reordered “wealth.”
Which is true, in a way, but completely meaningless to the person who just died of dehydration.
The “wealth” added, from the perspective of the person who found the rain storage system is the fact she’s still alive instead of dead.
That, I guarantee you, will be considered “additional wealth” by the person who did not die of dehydration.
Both of you are correct, but you talk past each other not fully understanding how the other defines “wealth.”
Debt Dollar tyranny works similar to this simplified example…
Corporation A creates $20 and lends it to Society B at 5% interest, payable as a lump sum in 1 year’s time.
It works out like this…
Year | Debt Owed to A | B’s Debt Money | A’s Debt Paper Value | Total Money + Debt Paper Value in System.
0 | $20 | $20 | $0 | $20
1 | $21 | $20 | $1 | $21 (technically, the instant before debt is payable)Note that $21 is owed by B to A, but B only has $20 unless one of two things occurs.
1. B sells their labor to A and earns $1 in a timely manner to pay the debts.
2. B sells their assets to A and earns $1 in a timely manner to pay the debt in full.
Note that A controls the destiny of B… No matter what B does or how they do it, they are constrained by the mathemtics of the Debt Dollary Tyranny system and completely under the thumb of A. If A wants to bankrupt B and put them into receivership, that’s exactly what A can do any time they want – just hold back $0.01 from B’s possession and B is bankrupted.
The beneficiaries of this tyranny are the OWNERS AND CONTROLLERS of corporation A.
Pure Machiavellian. Sun Tzu Art of War Evil…
Your entire country is at the mercy of the OWNERS AND CONTROLLERS of the Federal Reserve System (Corporation A), and there is nothing you can do about it inside their Debt Dollar Tyranny model.
S&I are out trying to help the subjects (that’s us, we are subject to this Debt Dollar Tyranny) keep their wealth local because the system was ENGINEERED to asset strip the subjects.
If you have Netflix, watch “American Experience: The Crash of 1929” and note how John Kenneth Galbraith refers to the people wiped out in the Great Depression. I believe it was at about 44 minutes into the show when he referred to them with the highly technical term “suckers.”
Note that Japan and Germany weren’t under Debt Dollar Tyranny until after they were conquered.
Note that Muslims aren’t under Debt Dollar Tyranny until they are conquered. Yes, there are other tyrannical systems that jack those populations, but none that enrich the Debt Dollar Tyrants like good old fashioned Debt Dollar Tyranny.
And no – gold is not the solution. The Tyrants who currently covertly rule over us own and control most of the gold. Britain wasn’t stupid selling off its gold at the low, they did it on purpose to enrich the inner party class that controls government. The inner party who bought it low will probably sell it back high to the governments… and then buy it low again – fleecing the naive proles the while time.
The proletariat has to get more sophisticated.
MR166 post=1794 wrote: Forget any country trying to pay off it’s debts, it will never happen.
Society doesn’t have the money to pay back the debt due to the fraudulent Debt Dollar tyranny that has been used to financially chain us down.
Check out this graphic for the short version…
The point of Debt Dollar Tyranny was expressed concisely by the world’s biggest industrialist of his day, Henry Ford.
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debt.”
~Henry FordThe Debt Dollar Tyrants have always been the #1 risk to societies around the globe… and now they can smell the financial napalm as they attack all western nations – and the populace has NO IDEA that a concerted attack is under way.
As Sun Tzu said, and the Debt Dollar Tyrants have incorporated, “war is all about deception.”
Look who the banksters put on their $20 debt receipt, aka FRN…
“The bank, Mr. Van Buren, is trying to kill me, but I will kill it.”
~Andrew jacksonGentlemen! I too have been a close observer of the doings of the Bank of the United States. I have had men watching you for a long time, and am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out!
~Andrew JacksonLook who “the bank” put on their $5 debt receipt…
“I have the Confederacy before me, and the bankers behind me, and for my country I fear the bankers most.”
~Abraham LincolnBoth men were victims of assassination attempts, but only one succeeded. However, the failed attempt didn’t fail for lack of planning, the assassin brought two guns and BOTH misfired.
Three excellent resources that everyone should view at least once are:
The Secret of Oz…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swkq2E8mswIRenaissance 2.0
https://www.csper.org/renaissance-20.htmlDebunking Money Series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_yh4-Zi92QThe psychopathic financial oligarchs have moved into their next operational tactic – to take the Western nation’s into financial receiverships based on their fraudulent monetary system and their iron grip on all major western governments.
The people have to wake up and figure out where we are in short order or it look bleak. It looks bleak already, but it can get a lot worse.
MR166 post=1783 wrote: TheTrivium4TW, I liked your comments but have have a different opinion about the Left. The hard core Left know exactly what they are doing when they encourage an “Arab Spring”. World chaos is at the very heart of their game plan. Here in the US, they are hoping that the OWS movemnet will grow into riots. The Trayvon Martin shooting has been turned into a race issue in the hopes of starting a riot. For the president to fan the flames as he did is beyond excusable. At worst, this is a case of a person using poor judgement and killing someone. There are tens if not hundreds of black on white murders in the US each year that create little or no media outrage. Exactly why is that?
Hi MR166,
Re: OWS – I do believe that the fake left (controlled by Big Finance Capital. they also control the right – there really is no difference in that there is really no difference between police in the “good cop / bad cop” psychological operation) thought they could manage the OWS movement. When it became apparent they couldn’t, they started cracking heads and threatening slaves with felonies for exercising their long gone “rights” that the criminal duopoly has completely subverted.
Please don’t think “the right” is going to fix anything. They won’t – and every dollar spent by Obama in the past 18 months or so has been given the Republican stamp of approval as the House controls funding and the Republicans control the House.
Funny how this FACT is never reported in the media… they hope the citizenry is so inured to their fake two party psy op they simply can’t ever figure this FACT out and, if someone like me spoils their 5 minutes of “hate” on the “other team,” that they emotionally can’t accept the obvious ramifications.
As for the Martin case, I addressed that to a degree in my response to Ashvin.
The system promotes what benefits the Big Finance Capital’s current agenda. If something can be used to divide and conquer, it will be.
I think the fact that Obama is such an obvious duplicitous demon has the social engineers concerned (it is harder to rig an election that is a landslide).
Therefore, they need to give the naive left, as opposed to the naive right, some cannon fodder to get their minds off of the war mongering, societal asset stripping, nation impoverishing, black genocide creating, al Qaeda funding for nation state over throws, oligarch slobbering demon in the Presidency.
That’s opposed to the last demon that was in the Presidency – there is no real difference when it comes to the oligarch’s “continuity of agenda” program.
All the world’s a stage – and, just like in poker, if you don’t know who the stage chump is, that means it is you.
We have to anger the tyrants and “think!”
“How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don’t think.”
Adolf HitlerHi Ashvin,
Again, color isn’t an issue. There is no genetic trait that is tied to skin color that CAUSES the evil we see in the world.
The more people focus on NON ROOT CAUSES, the better for the ROOT CAUSE, no? What is the root cause? A very few criminal, thug, murderous, thieving, lying, genius level Machiavellian psychopaths that rigged the monetary system to covertly asset strip ALL PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF SKIN COLOR, and to transfer the wealth to themselves.
They then leveraged this “Alladin’s Lamp” of fraudulent wealth to seize control of society and impoverish it.
Race isn’t the root cause and it can’t be changed – so let’s focus on more productive areas. I’m white. You are my equal. You don’t have to fight for that position, you have it. It is your inaliencable place. Now, if I lacked the character to be confident among EQUALS, I might try and put you down or treat you bad for being different than myself.
That’s a content of character issue – and that needs to be addressed. There is nothing wrong with your skin color (or eye color or any other body feature), so there is nothing there to fix.
MLK understood this, even in the midst of a lock of character that probably seemed to be everywhere.
Now, if you want to discuss how a lack of character leads down the path to be manipulated by something as nonsensical as race, I’m all for it. But that’s a character discussion, not a race discussion.
The other problem is that the majority group feels a false sense of security. I have news for white folks out there who think they are better than other folks based on something as absurd as how the light reflects off their skin – YOU ARE BEING SYSTEMATICALLY IMPOVERISHED BY A CRIMINAL, MURDEROUS OLIGARCHY.
You aren’t safe. You are at great risk – and it isn’t “the dark skinned man”) that is the threat.
Do you think the oligarchs targeted MF Global segregated accounts because of their skin color?
Do you think the oligarchs don’t file false paperwork to steal homes from white folks?
Do you think that white soldiers aren’t exposed to aerosol depleted uranium when they fire it or they follow up after it has blown up some hut somewhere?
Do you think the white soldier’s risk of having a deformed child doesn’t explode, too?
Did Gary Webb avoid CIA assassination for exposing the CIA’s links to the crack epidemic in South Central Los Angeles and around the country (BTW, this was a duopoly operation – the same duopoly criminals that pose as the arbiter of racial issues they work over time to create!).
https://www.narconews.com/darkalliance/drugs/start.htm
Do you think white folks will get their $100s of billions in student loans cancelled when others won’t?
Do you think white folks don’t have their grandmothers strip searched at the airport?
While the justice system lacks character and, therefore, treats darker skinned people far worse, white folks are still busted by the millions for using the duopoly’s (Big Finance Capital and their captured government) drugs that they conspire to bring into the country and launder their profits through the mega-banks (reference your previous article)
Do you think white people got a memo not to drink the low dose toxic waste that the oligarchs filter through our children without ever completing a randomized, double blind placebo study to prove it was one iota effective to prevent tooth decay? No oligarch gave me this memo…
https://www.nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/NTEU280-Fluoride.htm
https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8903910725020792574
Do you think that debt based money hasn’t asset stripped white folks – that we get a rebate at the end of the year or something?
As I’ve stated before, the psychopathic, murdering, criminal oligarchs love to hide themselves within larger groups and they love to divide and conquer.
Both these tactics, and they are military grade tactics being executed with utmost precision (the Pentagon’s resources are easily accessible to the Big Finance Capital controlled military / industrial mega complex) are apparent in the “Jewish Conspiracy” meme.
“Jews” aren’t running the world, a bunch of neo-fuedal control freak, criminal oligarchs runt he world. Some (*some*, not all – EVIL comes in a variety of forms) might be able to reasonable associate themselves with a “Jewish ancestry,” but the idea that would impune any other person is absurd.
We are INDIVIDUALS. Respect a person as such. Race is a grouping… and over generalization BY DEFINITION.
Grouping people and demonizing groups is classic divide and conquer – and the more we are mad at each other, the less we understand the real historical risk facing humanity….
DEMOCIDE.
My goal is simple. The help people understand that Debt Dollar Tyranny is alive and well, that the social controllers who set this up are treasonous criminals and we all, regardless of “background” or “orientation” need to bad together and fight off these criminals before…
THEY DESTROY US ALL, REGARDLESS OF RACE, RELIGION, BACKGROUND, ABORTION STANCE, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, ETC…
I’ve blown a whole lot of time on nonsensical race (it really doesn’t matter unless we allow it to matter – I don’t consent to the con, I simply respect the dignity of all people until their actions prove their character is lacking), but hopefully I’ve been able to do so in a way that also highlights the real criminals who use these psychological warfare tactics against the populace as part of their oligarch / government duopoly war covert (but less and less so) mechanism.
Oh, and why do you think the fake “media” was silent when two CENTRAL STATE CRIMINAL THUGS (white men), face planted a wheel chair bound man (black man) and then lied about in on their official police report…
Why didn’t Big Finance Capital promoted African American crowd go berzerk over this ENTRENCHED Central State crime?
BTW, I bet these criminal, lying pieces of character content lacking trash (who happen to be white) are still getting a pay check – the entire system is a CESSPOOL of corruption.
This might shed some light on the Big Finance Capital tactic at play…
“We should hire three or four colored ministers (implicit in this is that they would use their media control to promote their “hired” help), preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.”
~Margaret Sanger (found Planned Parenthood)…but have stooped to lying about the Martin / Zimmerman incident?
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=204135
The answer is simple. One case makes the criminal duopoly look evil (which it is – research “democide”) and the other case pits the citizenry at each other’s throats – or at least those people that don’t see this divide and conquer military grade psy op for what it is.
I value people who value justice, goodness, kindness and who care about themselves, their family and their neighbors enough to resist the criminal tyranny that is controlling and accelerating within our society.
Skin color? Give me a break. It means nothing UNLESS you can be conned into believing that it does.
THEN, and only then, does it become Big Finance Capital’s divide and conquer psy op.
I agree that racism is a HUGE issue – even today. But the root cause isn’t the skin color itself, it is the fact people have fallen for the divide and conquer psy op designed to distract the population from the root cause of the problem – a few criminal psychopath murderers that control all the major institutions and corporations in the world.
MR166 post=1783 wrote: TheTrivium4TW, I liked your comments but have have a different opinion about the Left. The hard core Left know exactly what they are doing when they encourage an “Arab Spring”. World chaos is at the very heart of their game plan. Here in the US, they are hoping that the OWS movemnet will grow into riots. The Trayvon Martin shooting has been turned into a race issue in the hopes of starting a riot. For the president to fan the flames as he did is beyond excusable. At worst, this is a case of a person using poor judgement and killing someone. There are tens if not hundreds of black on white murders in the US each year that create little or no media outrage. Exactly why is that?
MR166, always keep in mind what Socrates and the socieal engineers know – that words have meaning and, if that meaning can be distorted, then confusion can easily transform into divide and conquer.
Of course the high level “establishment left” are completely evil and fronting for Big Finance Capital. We agree 100% there simply because it is so obviously true at this point.
Then again, why only point to the “establishment left” as being evil when the “establihsment right” works for the exact same power structure?
Neither establishment party works for the populace, though. They BOTH work for Big Finance Capital.
Vladimir Lenin said “the best way to control the opposition is to lead it.” The social engineers have learned well. The population has some catching up to do.
There is an establishment left and right that work for the criminal, murderous, thieving, lying psychopath oligarchs and then there is a society divided by these criminals who have been tricked into believing that the oligarch controlled parties either 1. represent them or 2. been trained to despise the other “team” so much they vote for the evil that think is “lesser,” never contemplating that a single evil controls both parties.
The social engineers use words in ways that allow them to hide.
The news media says, “Isreal is contemplating an attack on Iran” in order to deceive. The average Israeli CAN’T STAND THEIR CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT don’t support attacking Iran. But the criminal oligarchs that have hijacked Israel’s control structure want to hide their will, which is contrary to the will of most of Isreal, as being separate than the will of the nation.
“America” didn’t fund al Qaeda to create a civil war in Libya, kick the genocide of dark skinned Africans, grease the skids for the mega banks to steal Gaddafy’s billions of dollars at JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs, steal his tons of gold and roll up all that light sweet crude under their mega corporate oil company fronts… the criminals who have hijacked Aemrica did that.
But every single time they they say “America” did this or that and the population repeats when they heard without every applying Socrates’ level of discernment, the idea that “America” actually did something, as opposed a very few number of Big Finance Capital servants, is ingrained in the American psychy!
The Republicans have supported EVERYTHING Obama has done since they took control of the House… Why? Because they could defund any project that they determined was bad for the country.
But they don’t – because the “projects’ basically help out the criniminal financial oligarch interests.
The con is pretty simple. You know what the criminal oligarchs value based upon the “continuity of agenda” between administrations (regardless of party). I could make a laundery list here – but this shold be a puzzle activity for the reader to sharpen their perception.
Then there is the divide emotional issues that basically split the population in half – and those are used to keep the populace at their own throats so the financial oligarchs skate under the radar – even though they are, by far, the biggest threat to humanity, and have been so for centuries. Butt hat history isn’t taught by an oligarch controlled education system. At least not to the proles.
@Board:
I recommended my son do a book report on Socrates. I asked him what it was about and he said, “He thinks about things.” I asked about what. “He thinks about words.”
Eric Blair highlighted the control of language in his book 1984.
Language is important – it can actually act a weapon or as cover for those who would control society.
“The West” isn’t me. “America” isn’t me. I’m an individual in the West, I’m an individual in America, but people who use that term do not have the ability to include me, as an individual, when they use those terms.
When America supports al Qaeda to overthrow a sovereign, non threatening Libya (to other countries) and create a black African genocide and start a civil war… that isn’t me!
But the criminals that do this sort of thing want to HIDE under the banner of “America.” I don’t let them – and I hope more people take my position.
The “left,” duped by a focus on race, doesn’t seem to believe that a brown skinned man would do anything evil to other black skinned people.
That’s naive. When these criminals are white, they don’t give white people quarter. When these criminals are black, they don’t give black people quarter.
It isn’t black vs. white, it is good vs. evil (content of character).
The average racist white guy is a fool – the same psychopaths that seem to like to beta test their evil on darker skinned people (due to a lack of content of character, not b/c their skin color compels them!) are also waging war against white people all around the world.
The LAST thing these Big Finance Capital psychopaths want to see is humanity, and I mean ALL of it – OWS, Tea Party, dark brown, light brown, white, gay, straight, tall, short, skinny, fat, strong, etc…, standing TOGETHER and looking Big Finance Capital and their various mega corporate fronts and telling them “we see you for the criminals that you are.”
So they work overtime to ensure that all those groups are in fighting so they can’t get together and fight the real threat.
I know what these criminals don’t want to see and I work towards making it happen.
Oh, and when “America” hands out guns like candy to the Wachovia drug money laundering Sinaloa drug cartel, that IS NOT me doing it… and those criminals don’t do it in my name.
When “America” grows 7,700 tons of heroin in Afghanistan and CIA pilots fly it into Europe every year, that IS NOT me doing it.
Folks, don’t be so naive… 7.700 tons are not being taken from Afghanistan to Europe via donkeys under the U.S. military’s radar… this is another in a long line of CIA criminal operations that rely on a completely gullible public.
I’m repulsed by the evil these criminals wage all across the globe (including right here in America). They are following the highest of Sun Tzu’s Art of War principles against the American populace… and war is all about deception… rule #1.
Socrates was right – words matter and don’t let the criminals “disappear” by manipulating the definition of words.
ashvin post=1740 wrote: Well, as Bukko implied up thread, race does matter in this context. Historical developments have ensured that it does, including centuries of colonialism and this latest iteration of Western neo-colonial expansion. Cole’s title is not meant to impune the character of all white people in the West, but to identify the role white populations of N. America and Europe occupy in relation to non-white populations in much poorer parts of the world, such as North/West Africa and the ME.
The fact is that much of the world’s wealth is now concentrated in white populations, and many of these people have developed a mentality in which the extremely “poor” must be brought up to their level by re-creating the structures/institutions that surround them, ignoring the fact that these structures have helped contribute to the serious problems facing those populations in the first place, and they usually continue to enrich a very small minority of financial and industrial elites at the expense of everything else.
There are obviously some tangible benefits to specific forms of humanitarian aid and intervention, but they have no chance of producing sustainable progress in eradicating the poverty, famine, disease and violence that plagues these locations. Of course, there are blacks and other wealthy minorities in the West who feel the exact same way, but they have not primarily defined the “savior” culture over the course of decades.
Ashvin, I don’t think you made the case that color is important in this discussion. The problem is a lack of character in the West – especially in the Western controllers, but also in the apathy and lack of morality in the society at large.
If everyone’s skin color reversed overnight, nothing would change. Skin color truly doesn’t matter UNLESS you can be convinced it does.
Divide and conquer is probably the best social control mechanism out there and the Big Finance Capital social engineers know this very well. That’s why they make sure education and media divides people based on various lines, one of their favorites being race.
Big Finance Capital sold trash to everyone’s pension fund.
Big Finance Capital files false paperwork to steal everyone’s home – white people don’t get a pass.
Big Finance Capital robs segregated accounts regardless of skin color… nobody at MF Global got their money back based on them being white.
But Big Finance Capital and MLK knew one thing well – every minute focused on race is a minute NOT focused on the criminal tyrants and their Trojan Horse fraudulent monetary system and their criminal impoverishing of their host countries.
So they weaponize the media and the education system with the net effect of DIVIDING people. It doesn’t work with me. It is absurd for someone to judge me based on my skin color. Just as absurd as it is for me to judge others based on skin color.
Skin color is only an issue in as much as we allow it to be an issue.
The real root cause is a lack of moral compass… the leadership are Machiavellian murderous psychopathic thieves and the population cares so little about themselves and others that they don’t pay attention to what is going on and allow the evil people to have their way with others and even themselves.
If everyone’s color changed over night, nothing would change – because skin color is not the root cause of the problem.
It is a distraction that is only made real if the social engineers can get us to buy into it – kind of like the vampire needing the home owner to invite them in.
I criticize the average Western citizen to know end for not caring enough about anyone to engage what is becoming a pretty obviously evil system. And I mean EVIL.
As an example, I watched “A Film Unfinished” on Netflix – a documentary that reviewed some footage Hitler had taken at the Warsaw ghetto a couple weeks before he sent these people to the death camps.
As I was watching it, a question developed in my mind… “What is the difference between Hitler’s Warsaw ghetto and Big Finance Capital’s sub-Sahara African “ghetto” other than 1. location, 2. lack of walls and 3. size of land?”
Oh, and 4. marketing.
As of today – they are the same thing – and Big Finance Capital has engineered ~25 million deaths a year where Hitler could only dream of such “efficiency.”
Americans are told Africans are “backwards” and somehow deserve their condition.
Hello?!? Shut down the power in America and give it a month – we’d be backwards on a level that would stun the Average African.
Big Finance Capital uses debt to rob Africa blind. They prop up puppet governments and provide weapons to all sides in order to keep the murder machine going.
Another good documentary is “The Empire in Africa” – it gave me a visceral reaction… I’m still angry just thinking about it.
But I don’t despise Big Finance Capital based on their skin color – I despise them because they lack character.
When I interact with people, I envision their character (has real value), not their skin color (what does this have to do with the price of tea in China).
Big Finance Capital sure wants people angry over race, though – that means they aren’t angry at the social engineers who are manipulating them.
That message won’t come out of the media or the education system… everyone will have to consider what I’m saying and ask themselves… why does skin color matter?
Does skin color control the character?
Or does a low content of character allow one to grasp onto something irrelevant (like skin color) in order devalue another human being?
I think MLK was right – the root cause is content of character, not skin color.
BTW, I think MLK would DESPISE Obama… the man who would slap MLK with a felony for protesting inside a Secret Service zone.
You see, MLK looked BEYOND simple skin color… he looked for content of character. Something Obama lacks… and completely unrelated to his skin color and 100% related to his lack of character.
But Obama, believing the people are properly misguided, claims MLK support based on his having the same skin color…
We have to elevate the thought process, IMHO, if we are going to get out from under Big Finance Capital’s social control grid.
As for the topic, I think the bad reaction to it is because people took the title personal to themselves… Maybe using the term “white” in the title helped promote that idea.
Martin Luther King’s whole message was that color doesn’t matter, content of character matters.
MLK, would not have celebrated Obama’s election BASED ON SKIN COLOR. That’s 100% contrary to his outlook. Surely, MLK would DESPISE Obama’s content of character because he essentially works for the system that illegally invaded MLK’s privacy and more than likely murdered him.
Even if MLK was initially fooled for a time, Obama’s NDAA claim that the President can order anyone kidnapped, detained, tortured or murdered without any due process and that anyone who protests in a Secret Service area gets slapped with a felony would have woken him up from his slumber.
The idea that MLK would like Obama because of his skin color or that Obama has a close connection to MLK because of skin color is ABSURD.
Anyone who thinks the financial oligarch empire, which tricks nation state chumptocracies to do its dirty work, is out to help anyone other than themselves is waaaaay off base.
Let’s cut right through the false narrative:
The financial oligarchs who exert tremendous control over the Western nations and their military don’t do anything out of kindness for their subjects.
Of course, they have to spin it that way so the subjects don’t rebel, but that’s marketing and spin, not the end goal.
Egypt had NOTHING to do with freedom, hence the acceptance of a military dictatorship and the emergence of the Muslim Brotherhood running the country and no complaints from the oligarchs like we saw ahead of overthrowing that country.
Libya had NOTHING to do with helping or freedom, either. The oligarchs funded radical Muslims, including al Qaeda, to overthrow Gaddafi and start a civil war where the Western propped up al Qaeda summarily executed thousands upon thousands of dark skinned Africans.
Oh, BTW, Libya had one of the highest standards of living in Africa. Their social welfare program and education program was outstanding, relatively speaking. That’s not to say he wasn’t a tyrant, he was. But he was FAR from the worst one in Africa.
But he did have BILLIONS invested with the financial oligarch’s front corporations… I can’t recall if it was Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan or bother. He did have tons of gold and light, sweet crude for the thieving. He was showing that African could develop – and that’s against the policy of the financial oligarchs.
We Westerners have to stop supporting the chumptocracy. The psychopathic oligarchs play us like chumps and it is painful to watch people play right into it.
The oligarchs didn’t promote Kony 2012 because they want to help their average African subject (through financial tyranny and propping up dictators in various regions). Far from it.
They want an excuse to go into Africa and destabilize and asset strip it like they’ve done Libya. And they may well use their “all purpose tool” al Qaeda to do it, too. Just like they are using al Qaeda in Syria.
The financial oligarchs that have hijacked America and almost every Western nation love to wrap themselves in the flag. They associate their evil and wicked actions with the country as a whole – and that narrative right in. They have NO IDEA that these same oligarchs are waging economic warfare against its American subjects via their fraudulent debt based monetary con game and by systematically eliminating our freedoms.
And if you remember one thing from this post, make it this.
NOBODY hates your freedoms more than the tyrants that take them away.
Sure, they’ll lie to you and tell you they are “protecting you” (as they finance al Qaeda in Libya to create civil war) as they eliminate your freedoms, but that is a centuries old ruse of tyrants.
After all, Sun Tzu said “war is all about deception.” Only a chump thinks the bad guys would actually tell them the truth.
Benjamin Franklin was well aware of it when he said, “Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”
IOW, Franklin is calling you a chump if you fall for that centuries old con game. Probably millennia old.
If the chumptocracy wakes up to the con game, then there is a good chance it will end. Until then, well, we get what we get.
Hi Ilargi,
The con is pretty simple.
The Big Finance Capital “club” wants zero risk so they lobby the operatives their mega corporate fronts financed and promoted into office to guarantee the student loans their mega banking fronts made – zero risk for the banksters.
But that wasn’t enough.
They wanted more… They knew the debt would crush the economy and the students wouldn’t be able to pay off their debts, so they saw another profit making opportunity – on the default of those student loans.
So they got their Congressional financed and promoted operatives to make it so that student loans couldn’t be defaulted in bankruptcy.
Like any good “business person,” they then set up the corporate structure to profit billions more from the student loan collection process by controlling the biggest student loan collection companies and lobbying their Congressional operatives to give them the sweetheart government contracts.
Isn’t tyranny grand?
JP Morgan crimes:
1. Bribed Jefferson County officials who went to jail.
2. Bribed Goldman to stay away from Goldman.
3. Bernie Madoff’s “back end.”
4. Keeping stolen loot from MF Global American Subjects (we are no longer citizens by any reasonable definition)
5. All the student loan collection crimes.
6. All the MBS securities frauds.
7. All the perjury robo-signing crimes.All aided and abetted by BOTH establishment political parties (both controlled by Big Finance Capital).
Remember, the Republicans could shut down “Obama’s” spending and debt generation any time they wanted to (they control the House of Representatives – they control the *money*)… but they don’t want to.
ashvin post=1604 wrote:
OK, but are we drawing the line at BoD, CEOs, CFOs, the 23yr old quant trader, where?Therein lies the rub, nobody cares where we draw the line.
Heck, we can’t even keep our liberties safe from these rogue criminals, let alone punish them in any way whatsoever.
100 year on and Debt Dollar Tyranny is still asset stripping our society and pushing all the power into the hands of the criminal asset strippers.
Glennda post=1591 wrote: Perhaps the best we can hope for is – if people get too angry at the Banks, it might be expedient for a political figure like the president to throw a Bankster to the wolves as a sop to OWS and Tea Party.
Hi Glennda, I’m getting a vibe that they simply have no respect for their subjects any more so they will continue to commit crimes and won’t even bother to pretend any more.
They are out saying they are using electronics to spy on people, that they want to make infanticide “liberal” and demonize anyone who thinks that is outrageous… They bribe, they rob, they put derivatives ahead of FDIC depositors… BofA goes, they get all the money first now…
These people have “flown the coup,” as it were and the populace turned subjects are just emotionally incapable of admitting the obvious at this point…
We are entering a very dangerous time and our only hope is a hopelessly apathetic populace. In general, of course – lots of people are waking up every day… and that’s a good sign, but it is also why the criminals enact more criminal “law” and commit more crimes in an effort to deal with their true political opponents – those who see the entire system as a cesspool of Big Finance Capital corruption.
Excellent article Ashvin.
The crooks really are running the show… and it is even worse… Wachovia launders Sinaloa drug cartel money, The ATF funnels thousands of guns to Sinaloa and the government cuts deals with Sinaloa to bring in tons of cocaine free and clear (while traveling Grannies get stripped searched and a Miss USA contestant gets sexually assaulted).
And if all that weren’t enough, Big Finance Capital (Owners and controllers of the Federal Reserve the mega banks and the multi-nationals) also owns and controls the mega prisons and they lobby the people they financed into office for draconian drug laws to put their subjects into prison in order to maximize their prison investment. Oh, and they own the hotels right next to the prisons, too, so when you go to visit people busted for using their product, you pay them for the privilege, too.
And they own the media, so nobody will put this all together…
And no, I don’t expect anyone to just believe me (I’m not the “news!” -lol-), so here are the references…
Startpage.com the following titles (links “disappeared” post, my post felt like it had been NDAAed)
“How a big US bank laundered billions from Mexico’s murderous drug gangs”
“Documents: Feds allegedly allowed Sinaloa cartel to move cocaine into U.S. for information”
“Youtube We Tolerate The Cultivation of Opium Poppies”
“FACTBOX: Some facts about Afghanistan’s opium crop”
Folks, 90% of the world’s heroin is coming from Afghanistan and it isn’t being transported via mule. Try C-130s or similar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_C-130_Hercules
America isn’t running the drugs, the Big Finance Capital (BFC) interests that hijacked America are controlling the drug flow in the hopes of robbing their American subjects (America doesn’t have citizens any more – but I think most know that here), hooking them on drugs and then monetizing them as they enslave them in their prison work brigades.
Startpage.com the following headlines…
“Fast and Furious weapons were found in Mexico cartel enforcer’s home”
“Taxpayers Paid For “Fast And Furious” Plan To Arm The Sinaloa Drug Cartel”
And nobody gets in trouble EXCEPT…
The ATF whistle blowers…
The Wachovia whistle blower who just did his job.
Folks, we aren’t in Kansas any more. Perhaps we never were.
And the BFC controlled “media?” Nowhere to be found.
Corzine was just implicated in criminal theft and perjury, but I doubt there is even an investigation because he’s a BFC oligarch asset.
America has a classic case of Tyranny.
The scary part is that these criminals are so confident, they are demolishing the Bill of Rights and flaunting their illegal wars, hatred for democracy (Greece – unelected criminal bankster suspending elections) and their mountain of criminal acts including bribery (Jefferson County), drug money laundering, and Corzine robbing $1.6 billion and lying under oath to cover it up.
An O’Reilly and Obama both shilling for their masters and saying no crimes were committed…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wsxXYDcHiE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUBUw3e2Gk4&t=0m8s
Note that O’Reilly never invites Bill Black or Karl Denninger on his show… and Obama says “some” of the acts weren’t illegal, but fails to mention that the criminal acts he admits to (some is not all) won’t be prosecuted… nor does Obama mention that there is not a single “or else” penalty in FinReg (per Denninger’s reading – I haven’t read it) – so they could all break every “law” in FinReg 1,000,000 times each AND NOTHING HAPPENS.
Just like the Fed has broken Section 2A of the Federal Reserve Act for 25 years running and NOTHING HAPPENS (and not 1 in 100 even know what its TRUE mandate is since the Fed and the media lie about it).
Even though Alan Greenspan openly admits the criminal fraud and the it was admitted to under oath by Citibank’s chief underwriter…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM1wRcr7XeY
It’s a cesspool.
Hi All,
I don’t think I’m alone with an IRA at a Big Finance Capital mega front corporation and I’m rehypothecating bad dreams.
Anyway, I’m kind of disgusted with Big Finance Capital’s Wall Street front structure… and I’m worried about having my eyeballs ripped out and being called a Muppet as I’m looted by the crooks in charge.
I’m thinking about moving my IRA to a much smaller real estate specialized IRA operation. I’m thinking that the risk of being rehypothecated into poverty would be lower and I might be able to pick up some good real estate deals when the market finally bottoms for good.
I suppose a smaller IRA could be eaten alive at some point.
I’d appreciate anyone thoughtful input.
TIA…
jal post=1174 wrote: The bankers are afraid to cut up the credit cards and the greeks are taking advantage of it.
The bankers are going to have to print more funny money to prevent their own system from falling apart.
I disagree on two points.
1. The banksters are planning to cut off the credit cards after they’ve maximised their current looting operation. That is how they transfer their current paper wealth into actual real Earth wealth. It is all part of the plan they devised about 100 years ago.
2. The system will fall apart with 100% certainty. The system engineers know that the collapse is coming and there are only two outcomes… bust everyone and the banksters suck up all the real wealth protected by the police state they are engineering or hyperinflate (requires a change in the Debt Dollar Tyranny system) and bail out the debtors (fat chance when you understand WHO runs Debt Dollar Tyranny).
The average person has no ideas that bad guys even exist, they are prey for these predators and the predator methods used to hurt the prey.
steve from virginia post=915 wrote: Stockman is wrong: You can make a handful rich by having the banks print limited money and giving this handful access to it, giving the rest the obligation to repay.
It’s just *evil* isn’t it? Most don’t get that it is **impossible** to pay off thhis debt because the “have nots” can only use the money that the “haves” possess in order to pay these debts – and the “haves” aren’t gonna let the “have nots” have access to the bulk of the money.
Therefore, the debts are UNPAYABLE.
Forget creativity, work ethic, building a better mouse trap… the best one can do is to pile even more debt onto someon else… how is that for a immmoral national finance system?
The slave owner class never gave up slavery in America, the neo slave masters just created a system of depersonalized slavery that the average citizen would not figure out on their own and would not admit to once they had it explained to them (although the latter is getting better as the pain hits said average citizen a real way).
ben post=931 wrote: hey used (TheTriv), finally got around to listening to some Gnostic Media podcasts. great stuff. the gene odening and john taylor gatto interviews on the importance of classical education as opposed to the Hall Of Mirrors that is our education system were fascinating 🙂
Hi ben,
I’m glad you liked it. A system to critically think and to challenge TPTB is great stuff – which is those in power don’t want us to understand it.
Spread the word.
Reverse Engineer post=927 wrote:
The Central Banking Syndicate has been around a good deal longer than Da Federal Reserve, and just getting rid of Da Fed won’t kill the Beast. The problem of course is that the Cancer has so thoroughly metasticized here its tough to kill the cancer without killing the host also.
RE, agreed – it is a system that needs to be exercised out of society. It does go beyond the Federal Reserve System, but NOTHING of substance will happen until you get rid of the *system* (not the name of the system to be replaced by the same systems under a different name). The poison that needs to be removed include:
1. Private cartel control of money and credit within a nation.
2. Money defined as debt – Debt Dollar Tyranny and, if you think about it a bit, you will conclude this system is merely a de-personalized form of debt-slavery where the slaves don’t know their masters. Think about it.
3. Endless usury and ultimate national bankruptcy.
4. 25 years of criminal bubble blowing operations that go unpunished.
5. Endless looting by the those favored in the eyes of those who control the Federal Reserve System
6. Government control via the principle that the borrower (government) is SERVANT to the lender (the private Federal Reserve Cartel).It isn’t about ending an institution, it is about ending systems and processes that are methodically and systematically destroying our nation and putting it under the heel of the criminals running the Federal Reserve System (and ultimately the BIS).
Perhaps William Jennings Bryan said it most eloquently…
“We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty….
“Those who are opposed to this proposition tell us that the issue of paper money is a function of the bank and that the government ought to go out of the banking business. I stand with Jefferson rather than with them, and tell them, as he did, that the issue of money is a function of the government and that the banks should go out of the governing business.
“When we have restored the money of the Constitution, all other necessary reforms will be possible, and that until that is done there is no reform that can be accomplished.”
It does not logically follow that because the Federal Reserve System isn’t the only problem that it shouldn’t be the first item on the list to address.
We need to address the ice berg situation we just hit instead of worry about how the chairs on the look on the deck.
As for the history of the “Money Power” in the United States (and some previous history), Bill Still’s The Secret of Oz provides a pretty good introduction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swkq2E8mswI
If you are a glutton for punishment, The Money Masters is the 3.5 hour version that is free on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXt1cayx0hs
BTW, Bill Still is running for President…
He promotes debt free money with a logical cap system to keep inflation in check and ending the looting and starting the prosecuting.
There is no way out… this crisis has been criminally engineered by the interests that defined corporations as “profit making psychopaths” (in thier own image) and who created Debt Dollar Tyranny via their corrupt Federal Reserve system…
All one needs to really know that this is all a criminal confidence game designed to bankrupt us is in these two charts…
The number 1 problem society faces is that so few people understand the how the systems that exert ultimate control over their lives actually operate. For example, almost nobody understands that our monetary system is literally weaponized by the oligarchs in order to systematically and covertly asset strip the citizens of society.
NO.
IDEA.
Saying one wants change when one doesn’t know exactly what change is foundational to making society more fair for all people is rather pointless. It seems to me our number one goal out to be to identify the #1 issue that faces society today – the Debt Dollar Tyranny Federal Reserve Crime Syndicate.
Debt money has to go – it is a fraud.
The Fed has broken Section 2A of the Federal Reserve Act for 25 years running…
…and this is about when the eyes glaze over and nothing gets accomplished.
Debt Dollar Tyranny was **engineered** to bankrupt its host nation and hand its wealth over to the oligarchs who established Debt Dollar Tyranny.
The Fed’s criminal bubble / bust operation accelerated this national bankruptcy process.
Until we deal with the people who installed these criminal systems and run these criminal operations, change WILL NOT be forthcoming in any meaningful way.
I wish it was different, but I deal with reality.
1. Mega banks own the private prisons.
2. Mega banks work with CIA to put drugs in front of our children and addicts.
3. Mega banks launder the drug money.
4. ATF gives cotnainer loads of drugs to mega bank sponsored drug gangs.
5. DEA launders drug money.
6. Government cuts deal with drug cartels to bring in tons of cocaine into America to put in front of our children – free and clear. All the while they grope your children and spouses and parents at the airport.All of these items are in the bankster stream media… I’ll be happy to point any article out if anyone is interested.
Here’s a link to the article that led to item #6…
https://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_18608410
Look it up – Sinaloa also received guns from the ATF through the “Fast and Furious.”
These criminals use the drug war to…
1. Profit immensely from incarcerating Americans and using their prison labor as slave labor.
2. To wage wars against private property rights – they take your home, even if they plant the drugs.
3. They make $100s of billions of dollars to fund their illicit and covert activities.
4. They destabilize the nation – read up on their drug war 1.0 – The Opium Wars.the citizenry has to wisen up here or we are gonna get stomped on after the sheering has taken place.
NZ, the war on the citizenry is really heating up.
Launder $10-$375 billion drug money… no police show up…
https://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/03/us-bank-mexico-drug-gangs
Sell milk (the real stuff – raw) and get SWAT teamed…
https://www.naturalnews.com/033220_Rawesome_Foods_armed_raids.html
Bizzaro world, indeed. The problem is nobody cares about anyone else getting pounded into the ground by the system enough to do anything about it – and then they wail and gnash teeth when the system gets around to pummeling them.
Can you imagine what kind of wealth you could have amassed from 1980 if you knew, at that time, that the goal was to blow the world’s biggest credit bubbler in human history – such inside information is a “gold mine.”
Not only did the insiders know what they were going to do (insiders control the Fed), they rigged the tax system so their ill gotten gains would only be taxed at 15% while the working serfs would be taxed double or triple on the scraps from that credit bubble table.
It’s.
All.
Fraud.
“Gold and money are separate things, gold is the trick mechanism by which you can control money. That is the root of all evil” [Thomas Edison]. It’s not WHAT backs our money, it’s WHO controls its quantity.
https://s6.zetaboards.com/Bill_Still_Reforum/topic/1177306/1/
WHO are a bunch of criminal Ponzi operators that have no sense of compassion towards anyone outside their group.
While I was viewing “A Film Unfinished” (Netflix), a documentary about film footage Hitler commissioned of the ghettos weeks before he sent those in the ghetto off to the concentration camps, when I asked myself, “what is the difference between this ghetto and sub Saharan Africa other than 1. Location, lack of walls and numbers of people being oppressed?”
Are these same financial criminals running neo-ghettos of death at a much grander scale than Hitler could ever envision, only under a better craft0dr narrative and public relations veneer?
If so, does this give an indication as to WHO we are actually dealing with?
State Memorandum 200 [pdf]
nixon.archives.gov/virtuallibrary/documents/nssm/nssm_200.pdf
Some good topics of discussion are covered…
Unwelcome Guests:
https://www.unwelcomeguests.net/Editor%27s_ChoiceThe whole system is fraudulent. Remember, the mega banks control the Federal Reserve System via their mega bank representation on the Fed’s Board of directors (Jamie “Don’t hate me b/c I’m successful”Demon and Lloyd “God’s Work” Blankfein). The Bankster Stream Media will never “connect the dots” that the Fed’s Board of Directors knew about the quadrillion in derivatives the whole time – and so did the Fed. This crisis was engineered – on purpose – and the bankster stream media is running interference to protect the architects of this criminal activity.
Download these charts and let the sheer magnitude of the worldwide fraud sink in… and then consider the tight grip on the media’s throat to keep these truths “hidden in plain view.” No Pulitzer Prize will be awarded for exposing this… maybe a pink slip prize, though…
Weapons of Mass Debt
https://kvisit.com/SyPbKAQDebt Dollar Tyranny
https://kvisit.com/SgoDLAQIt’s *all* fraud and any good that came of it is by sheer accident.
The Traitor is the Plague
Hi VK, I think the trick is to make the forum intuitively accessible.
Do that and things should go much more smoothly. How about a top tab named “Forum”?
Hi All, I’ve made two posts and can’t find either of them. This may well be a better set up, but that doesn’t matter so long as people don’t know how it works – and it isn’t intuitive or else I’d be able to find my post in “Finance”, whatever that is since I can’t find that, either. Don’t have much time to dig around or I might find it.
How about a main article tutorial that explains how to use the forums?
TIA and keep up the good work.
