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Jasper Johns Three flags 1958

 

 

Since the US has no official institution to call an election soon after the polls have closed, and people want a result fast, it has befallen on the media to make the announcement. And by and large, this hasn’t been that big a deal. But when those same media have for 4 years relentlessly hounded one of the two candidates, it should be obvious that this “system” should not be applied. If only because it has no legal status whatsoever.

However, people both in the US and abroad don’t appear to be aware of this. So when the New York Times et al declare a winner, this is seen as an “official” announcement. It is not. That won’t come until the Electoral College gathers in December (8-14th?!). And at least until then, Trump will have every right to contest the election in court. Still, “world leaders” are congratulating the “next president”. Do they really not know how this works?

The idea behind it all is obvious, of course: to make Trump look like a sore loser, and Biden the president-elect, a title the media claim they can bestow upon him. Do remember that both Biden’s and Kamala’s campaign were considered dead in the water at one point, before they were magically resurrected by the party machine, which ensured that =two people very unpopular in their own party now lead the ticket. Be careful what you wish for.

In that light. I found this intriguing. Twitter adds a warning to this Trump tweet: “Official sources may not have called the race when this was Tweeted”. I haven’t seen one instance where they attached the same warning to tweets about Biden winning and being President Elect. But wouldn’t that be the same thing?

 

 

No, I don’t particularly mind Biden winning, Washington is a shit hole whoever occupies the White House and other posts, but this is not about Biden. It’s about the people behind him. About the people who elected him to be a candidate, and that’s not his voters; it’s the DNC, the FBI and media that made him possible.

Everyone in the MSM is talking about Trump’s alleged lies, as they have for 5 screeching years, main news networks on Thursday even cut off/short a speech by the President of the United States -that must be a first-, but nobody reflects on the 5-year neverending constant lies they have all told ABOUT Trump, on the entire Russiagate episode, the Mueller report based on only lies, the whole shebang.

The DNC that paid for the Steele dossier without which there would never have been a Mueller special counsel, commissioned by Rod Rosenstein when he was Deputy Attorney General, which was based on lies, exclusively, the FBI that used the Dossier to falsify FISA applications, people like Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler and Nancy Pelosi who kept on lying about having evidence of Russian collusion.

And still these are the people accusing Trump of lying. And they feel they can get away with it, because their media also incessantly repeated their lies, and is still doing that. Forget for a moment about what you think about Donald Trump, and tell me how you feel about an attempt to unseat an elected American president with nothing but lies.

Do you think that will be a one-off? If so, you’re blind. If Joe Biden and his handlers ever get into the White House, respect for the Office of the Presidency will still be gone, and it will be for a long time, decades. That’s the price the American people pay for the attempt to unseat Trump based on lies only. Do you really feel that’s a price worth paying? I suggest you give that some serious thought.

 

 

With Biden you don’t get Biden, you get the entire cabal that went after Trump, the Democratic Party, the media, the intelligence agencies. And yes, Biden was and is very much part of that cabal. How people do not find that a whole lot scarier than Donald Trump is beyond me.

If -and no that is not when- Joe Biden is inaugurated on January 20 2021, that cabal will take over the country. And we’ve seen plenty indications that they intend to make it impossible for the Republicans to ever get one of their own elected as president again. Moreover they will not be investigated for what they concocted over the past 4-5 years.

How the Hillary campaign and the DNC leaked things to the FBI, and the FBI to the MSM, how they lied in courtrooms to get FISA applications on Trump campaign people like Carter Page and George Papadopoulos. How they set up Lt.-Gen. Michael Flynn so he wouldn’t be Trump’s National Security Adviser, because Flynn knew too much.

It’s a scheme so full of illegal actions that it will be devastating for the entire American political system if it is never investigated, or even if it isn’t investigated very very thoroughly, by an impartial party. And it won’t be if Biden becomes president.

The cabal wants you to think this is about Trump, and any given way to get rid of him is justifiable no matter what, but that is a very dangerous way of thinking. If crimes have been committed, they must be brought into daylight and before a court.

Problem is, of course, that at least half the nation has no idea of what’s been going on. Because they get their news and information from those media that are in on the whole deal. They won’t know that the DNC paid for the Steele Dossier, or that is was just a bunch of lies, or that the FBI knew this even before Rosenstein appointed Mueller as Special Counsel. All that has been kept away from them.

 

 

And yes, 4 years ago Trump said he would fight the swamp, but landed right in the middle of it. Early in his presidency he found himself surrounded by the likes of McMaster, John Kelly, Tillerson, and many other swamp creatures, and today he still has people like Mike Pompeo. But at least Trump is an outsider, and if anything can ever be done to drain the swamp, it will have to come from an outsider. That it may take more than 4 years is something we have to take for granted.

The swamp has fought back, and they may yet win. Joe Biden is the face of that. But people who celebrate that victory should think again, whether they like Trump or not. The swamp is not good for you, and it’s not good for your country, your rights, your freedoms. Its entire MO is to take all these away from you. This is not a partisan thing; the fat ass of the swamp easily fits and sits across the divide.

Joe Biden is not Joe Biden, the man doesn’t stand for anything other than holding on to power while getting richer off that power. He’s done it for 47 years. Term limits are desperately needed in Washington, but the only people who can make that decision are those who profit most from not having term limits. If there’s one area where McConnell and Schumer and Pelosi and Lindsey Graham agree, it’s that.

And meanwhile, Trump, unlike Joe Biden, is just Trump. He doesn’t represent a cabal, or a swamp. Even if he’s surrounded by them. Trump is not the biggest threat to America, that’s just something they’ve been wanting you to think for the past 4 years. Successfully, too, for millions of Americans.

The swamp is the biggest threat, whether their handpuppets come in a Democratic or Republican disguise. But to recognize that, you would have to be able to think for yourself, and if you read or watch the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, you simply can’t do that. You just think you can.

 

 

 

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  • #65293

    Jasper Johns Three flags 1958     Since the US has no official institution to call an election soon after the polls have closed, and people
    [See the full post at: Biden IS the Swamp]

    #65297

    Geppetto
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    BOOM! Thanks you Raul. Could not agree more.

    Caitlin had a two good ones in a row as well.

    Keep the faith bro. We’ll be fine. Like Dr. D says, ” the people…perennial as grass..” sumthin like that. 🙂

    #65298

    Polder Dweller
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    Here I am in far away Holland with the media and everyone around me whooping for joy over prospective president elect Joke Biden. It’s so bad that I have to feign happiness. I agree with every word you wrote and take solace in that, that I’m not crazy, that at least there are a few of us who think that, despite his many shortcomings, the Trumpster was a far better choice for president.

    #65300

    a kullervo
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    Human “truths” should be more aptly designated by the word “agreements”, because a human “truth” is nothing more than one interpretation of a subset of reality (a fact) upon which two or more consenting parties are able to establish a mutual temporary understanding, hence an agreement. Furthermore, as soon as a former agreement turns into a disagreement, a “truth” swiftly becomes a lie.

    Americans used to be good at making agreements, and subsequently holding those as “truths” they could sell to/foist upon a naïve world – not anymore: the world remains naïve as always, but all America can now do is to sell lies. Unsurprisingly, the demand remains unabated.

    #65301

    riesterm
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    Ilargi: What you have said so eloquently are the very ideas and thoughts that have been swirling around in my head the past few days. I only wish what you wrote will be shared with the entire nation. Thank you.

    #65302

    Maxwell Quest
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    #65303

    a kullervo
    Participant

    Greetings,

    As a non-American (no skin in the game), I’m rooting for Mr. Trump, out of sympathy for the underdog and disgust at snowflakism, but now I’m starting to wish that the folks pulling the strings stay in course and don’t just suddenly decide to reverse the results in favor of the incumbent (via courts or what have you). With the media all over the world putting its weight behind this “president Sleepy Joe” puppet show, if the puppet masters backpedal I cannot see how a civil war can be averted.

    Unless that was the plan all along.

    #65304

    VietnamVet
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    How true.

    Steve Bannon talked about a horseshoe joining the Left and Right. But he is under indictment and his lawyer quit. The Squad has to suffer Nancy Pelosi for two more years with no recourse. Four soldiers were killed in a roadside explosion occupying Syria’s oil field hundreds of miles from any coast on the other side of the world that is quarantined off because of the out of control Coronavirus Pandemic in the USA. A thousand Americans died this week of the virus and death toll is beginning to rise: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-deaths-united-states-each-day-2020-n1177936
    Joe Biden will keep troops over there because of Russia.

    Nobody talks about the oligarchy, the exploitation, the incompetency, and the media are already hyping the Biden Transition. The Swamp Blob is back. Yet, I have the feeling that this is a Brad Pitt Hollywood Movie:
    “The first rule about fight club is you don’t talk about fight club.
    The second rule about fight club is you don’t talk about fight club.
    But the most important rule of fight club is: Fuck the rules.”

    The future is simple. Restore government by and for the people and the rule of law or chaos will explode. The free world is collapsing.

    #65305

    regionswork
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    Opinion is not news.

    #65306

    zerosum
    Participant

    “With Biden you don’t get Biden, you get the entire cabal that went after Trump, the Democratic Party, the media, the intelligence agencies. “

    I’m waiting to hear what position will be given to Hillary.

    #65307

    palloy
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    Republican Party = Democratic Party = Economic Growth
    Biden = Swamp Creature
    Trump “found himself surrounded by the likes of McMaster, John Kelly, Tillerson, and many other swamp creatures, and today he still has people like Mike Pompeo”, therefore = Swamp Creature

    Are you surprised ?

    World Peak Oil was in 2018, so Economic Growth is in permanent decline now. It won’t be pretty, in fact it will be horrible. No one has developed a plan for how to manage it with the least pain. And the Swamp Creatures have known about Peak Oil for 63 years and not done anything about it.

    The people deserve everything they get.

    #65308

    “Unless that was the plan all along.”
    Indeed.
    With as fast as the plan is going, I think they need to build up a Biden win until it is a given, then “let” Trump claim victory after all.
    It won’t be pretty.
    Of course, that’s the movie ending. In general, an American election goes to the ones who cheated best.

    #65318

    Dr. D
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    It is most true that Americans don’t have or are unaware of the legal process for elections. In some blinding ways as just seen. So the media calls them, much to their embarrassment.
    Dewey
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/Deweytruman12.jpg

    AMadam

    I don’t expect them to know, as it’s archaic and little-used but how quickly we forget. Was it only Bush v Gore that kicked off this new age? And what happened then? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore

    And when some ELSE paid to have the votes counted ’cause Al got bored, who actually won? That’s right.

    So the media does this, which Podesta said they would months back, and present it in this way, as arranged months back. Trump accepts this particular approach, this improv line, rather than opposing or diverting it months back. And therefore has something planned. Oh heavens what? Like the 200 court cases and several recounts already filed? I mean really, people. That doesn’t mean they have merit or he’ll win, but there is no winner. Buzzfeed is not the legal source for election results. They, AP, and NYT generally print the opposite of truth, so stand ready.

    Media COULD, if they felt like it, take the opposite view just as readily, saying “it’s not over yet, there are many options, recounts, etc”, just as a few did back with Gore. It’s equally true and equally viable. They just don’t feel like it. Is that for civil war? Yeah, sort of. Podesta promised secession and civil war in the next few months as planned steps further up. It’s a pleasant synergy to get the long-planned civil war going, but like their race war, it’s not really getting off the ground much, and they have the immediate concern right now.

    The GOP won everything. State houses, House races, held the Senate, which was pretty strongly in DNC favor with which races were up and the pressure on them. The DNC was crying on the phone and want to depose Pelosi over it. Even so, we’re now in a position where enough states are all 3-branches GOP that the STATES are the counterweight to Federal as it should be. So I’m tempted not to call this election and let Cheeto lose here as a better option for the country. But I can’t: one because that’s not legal process, but second President Harris would start another 5 wars and open another few slave markets. That would almost certainly be a hypersonic nuclear one and we need to buy time. So the dumb, obvious route it is.

    Aside from that national tidal shift away from total crazy and back to anything sane, does anyone find it a wee odd that all races nationwide went firmly Republican EXCEPT one and only one man? In the swing states and ONLY the swing states?

    Okay, why? If you’re forging ballots, why not swing for your whole DNC ticket, it makes no sense. Well if anyone bothered to look at the thousands of on camera improprieties, you’d know. Look at it this way: Trump, by doubling black and latino vote, has added 8 MILLION people over his 2016 tally. That’s unheard of. But let’s assume for a moment that we’re all not morons and can watch film of the Presidential rallies, the lack of enthusiasm for Joe. Let’s assume for fun that because OMB, he still got the vote HRC got. Sure, why not? But in this plausible scenario THEY STILL NEED TO FORGE 8 MILLION VOTES.

    This is why the swing states and only swing states refused to start counting mail-ins until the day of. Because they needed to know how many to shred and how many to fabricate. And in some districts 100% of voters voted — impossible — and in others 150% of registered voters voted — um, impossible? Yet they report no fraud, so thank God we don’t report fraud to oligarch corporations like Facebook and Buzzfeed, but to the U.S. Court System, officially, with evidence. Now you see why they needed a blowout election even to win over the levels of voter fraud. What are the tally machines right now? 6,000 per district x 47 districts in one state MI, = 282,000 votes? Just one STYLE of fraud, on top of the others? You can’t hide that. You can’t even keep up. As we’ll find out shortly, in court. And thus the reporting that Joe was up 20 points, because that’s the level of stuffing they had planned. Don’t think that wasn’t a message to Cheeto’s planning team, either. Unlike CNN, they can read.

    Anyway, the point is, as from Camera 7, a ballot worker feverishly trying to fill the needed 500,000 (!!!) fake ballots — in my scenario — in just 12 hours, with coolers, trucks, forklifts, ambulances running in and out because that’s like a box-truck of paper. They didn’t have TIME to squiggle, with a pen, all names down the page even if they wanted. Only time for one circle only, then scan.

    But seriously? We have hundreds of these examples, publicly, on camera. Counting boarded up, inaccessible. Large containers rushing in and out. More people voting than exist, like Jill Stein’s Detroit count in 2016. All the usual, boring things. And you think given the DNI on “Russian interference” 2 years ago — apparently no Russians this time? Only when crappy DNC candidates who refuse health care and a minimum wage lose are there Russians interfering? — that the executive branch wouldn’t have agents placed in the voting stream, reporting to the Federal Police and election boards? It’s 2021. No cameras like Vertias seems to have? They tried nothing? Collected no evidence whatsoever for the courts?

    If so, I guess they deserve to lose. But I’m guessing they did. Feds cannot act until 10 days = 11/13, and the media won’t report it. Just as Podesta promised. And they will lose several levels, just as Podesta promised. And in his scenario, the only thing they had left was succession of CA, WA, and OR, which I’m certain they will do.

    But that’s still not a civil war as they don’t have the people of those states, only their government heads and a small disliked fringe. You can’t have Robin Hood without the active support of the people. You can’t have Manassas without people happily conscripted into the trenches. I don’t see that, so it will be a short stand off indeed.

    So yes, let them do this, get those ballots in boxes and sealed. Have the media report idiotically wrong headlines — again, forever, since people will trust them with their dead, clenched fingers wrapped, feverishly still trusting RussiaRussia, then discredited again, the ten-hundred-thousandth time, maybe it will sink in. Then take it to the courts as is what legal, official, government people must legally do.

    #65325

    HerrWerner
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    Huge change in the media here in flyover country
    Calm voices, soothing colors, innocuous stories. Even Chuck Todd, insufferable hyperbolic twit that he is, looks refreshed and unconstipated for the first time in five years. The election was clean and clear, a Mandate from the people with positively no foreign interference this time.
    They truly believe it’s all over. They have buried Trump and Trumpism. And anyone who supported him for any reason is an outcast, banished into the wilderness, humiliated and chastened.
    I’m realizing maybe for the first time just how closed-minded and ingenuous leftists/liberals can be. Having spent most of my years being one and living among them, this is a rude shock. The narrative they tell themselves (about themsleves) is of open-mindedness and compassion. I’ve been cast into the wilderness by three of them so far, ones I care about – a close friend and two family members. FOr expressing doubts about their constellation of beliefs – doubts about a vaccine, the harm of extended lockdowns, that the “SCIENCE!!!” they believe in is compromised, that this election is far from clean – I’ve spent many an hour trying to patch things up so we can talk about puppies and rainbows and innocuous things.

    #65337

    Maxwell Quest
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    @herrwerner

    Didn’t want this thread to end without saying how much I enjoyed your post. Keep writing. You have the gift.

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