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This is kind of a sequel to Let’s Save Some Lives , published here on June 6, when I said “All we can do is hope our immune systems are strong enough to fight off the vaccines.” and quoted Michael Yeadon, former Chief Scientific Officer of Pfizer, as saying: “Ivermectin is an off-patent drug that is one of the most widely used drugs in the world, and we know it is able to reduce Covid-19 symptoms at any stage of the disease by about 90%, so there is no need for vaccines.”. We’ll just keep on going.

 

 

It’s mighty cute that Matt Taibbi gets some coverage after writing Why Has “Ivermectin” Become a Dirty Word? , just like it was cute that Michael Capuzzo got some when he wrote The Drug that Cracked Covid a few weeks ago. Question is, where have all these people, the writers and their readers, been in the past year? As I wrote two days ago:

Taibbi should ask not only “WHY Has “Ivermectin” Become a Dirty Word?” but also “WHEN Has “Ivermectin” Become a Dirty Word?”. And then apologize to his readers for completely missing the story for a year, or at least the half year it’s been since Kory’s Senate testimony -which he talks about- was deleted by YouTube.

It’s also cute that the American Journal of Therapeutics recently published:

Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection

Therapeutic Advances: Meta-analysis of 15 trials found that ivermectin reduced risk of death compared with no ivermectin (average risk ratio 0.38, 95% confidence interval 0.19–0.73; n = 2438; I2 = 49%; moderate-certainty evidence). This result was confirmed in a trial sequential analysis using the same DerSimonian–Laird method that underpinned the unadjusted analysis. This was also robust against a trial sequential analysis using the Biggerstaff–Tweedie method. Low-certainty evidence found that ivermectin prophylaxis reduced COVID-19 infection by an average 86% (95% confidence interval 79%–91%).


[..] Conclusions: Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

And The Journal of Antibiotics did the same with:

The Mechanisms Of Action Of Ivermectin Against SARS-CoV-2

Although several drugs received Emergency Use Authorization for COVID-19 treatment with unsatisfactory supportive data, Ivermectin, on the other hand, has been sidelined irrespective of sufficient convincing data supporting its use. [..]

Real-time data is also available with a meta-analysis of 55 studies to date. As per data available on 16 May 2021, 100% of 36 early treatment and prophylaxis studies report positive effects (96% of all 55 studies). Of these, 26 studies show statistically significant improvements in isolation. Random effects meta-analysis with pooled effects using the most serious outcome reported 79% and 85% improvement for early treatment and prophylaxis respectively (RR 0.21 [0.11–0.37] and 0.15 [0.09–0.25]).

The results were similar after exclusion based sensitivity analysis: 81% and 87% (RR 0.19 [0.14–0.26] and 0.13 [0.07–0.25]), and after restriction to 29 peer-reviewed studies: 82% and 88% (RR 0.18 [0.11–0.31] and 0.12 [0.05–0.30]). Statistically significant improvements were seen for mortality, ventilation, hospitalization, cases, and viral clearance. 100% of the 17 Randomized Controlled Trials (RCTs) for early treatment and prophylaxis report positive effects, with an estimated improvement of 73% and 83% respectively (RR 0.27 [0.18–0.41] and 0.17 [0.05–0.61]), and 93% of all 28 RCTs.

Those numbers are clear enough, I bet you if you get an honest report on the vaccines none can compete, but for these science journals the same question must be asked: where were you over the past year? You really had no idea? We did at the Automatic Earth, but our reach is limited; we’re lucky if we convinced a few thousand people to obtain ivermectin, if they could get it in the first place. Which is great, don’t get me wrong.

There are a number of parties to this: there’s the vaccine manufacturers, aka Big Pharma, there’s politicians including governments, there’s the experts the latter derive their knowledge from, and there’s the media. And they’re all a year late when it comes to ivermectin and HCQ and other repurposed drugs. And at some point it will become clear that there was no need to be late, and it cost an enormous amount of misery and deaths and overwhelmed health care systems and lockdowns and facemasks.

They will do what they can to keep it from becoming clear, but it’s too obvious by now. Big Pharma simply says its products are superior, and suppresses research into ivermectin etc. Politicians hide behind their experts, who claim they go with what science journals publish. And the press hides behind the experts: “See, there’s no research”, without asking why there isn’t. There is, by the way, there is a lot of research:

 

 

It’s a closed club that all say the same thing. And put the onus on the -prospective- patients. Whereas if common sense had prevailed, and we had all given everybody enough vitamin D to bring those levels to an acceptable height, and we had given them ivermectin either as a prophylactic or an early cure, this pandemic would likely never have happened.

But if we had done that, the mRNA vaccines would never have gotten Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) , we couldn’t have locked everyone down, and there wouldn’t have been any reason for the huge-scale bailout programs. Sure, a few really old and/or really obese people, both with comorbidities, might have died, even with vitamin D and ivermectin, but they might have anyway. And we don’t know, because they never got that support.

That is the story that needs to be told today. Not why ivermectin today has a bad name, but why it got one a year and change ago. Why Capuzzo and Taibbi are so late to this game, and why politicians today are pushing vaccine passports while if they had acted a year ago, there would not have been a pandemic of anything the present size. Who are these people listening to, who controls the narratives?

Meanwhile the stories about the vaccines keep on piling up. Along the lines of: why is myocarditis among young men such a problem, if they mostly recover from it? Or: why are 10s of 1000s of spontaneous abortions among young America women a issue, when they can simply have another child? The benefits outweigh the problems, we hear it every single day.

It’s sort of funny, if the effects weren’t so ghastly, that both ivermectin and the vaccines were never tested, even though the WHO says: “Vaccines are safe and effective and have been tested extensively”. The first because that would have made the second ineligible for EUA, the second because some parties really wanted to push our bodies into becoming spike protein factories, to see how these gather in our brains and ovaries and testes, and watch what happens.

So who’s going to pay the price for the full year delay, which is ongoing -there’s still no ivermectin distribution campaign other than in parts of India and a few South American and African nations-, who’s going to take the blame for all the deaths and misery? Or will the system remain closed to the public’s eyes?

 

 

 

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    Giorgio de Chirico The Archaeologists 1927     This is kind of a sequel to Let’s Save Some Lives , published here on June 6, when I said “Al
    [See the full post at: Let’s Save Some More Lives]

    #77981
    Germ
    Participant

    Below is an exact copy/paste from an email that I received today from a close relative who is the Home Editor at the Times of London.

    I wonder if they’ll do to IVM what they did to Hydroxychloroquine in their Recovery trial; namely, to overdose their late-stage Covid subjects with 2400mg HCQ over a 24 hr dosing period, kill a bunch of them and then declare HCQ not to be effective.

    As you can see, the Media Release won’t be released until tomorrow.
    You heard about it here on TAE first !!

    _____________________________________________________________________________________

    University of Oxford Media Release | EMBARGOED: Wednesday 23 June 2021 00.01 BST

    Ivermectin to be investigated as a possible treatment for COVID-19 in Oxford’s PRINCIPLE trial

    PRINCIPLE is one of UK Government’s national priority platform trials of COVID-19 treatments, and the world’s largest currently taking place in community settings looking for treatments at home.
    Ivermectin, a widely used antiparasitic drug, has been added to the trial and is being evaluated in participants from today.
    For COVID-19, ivermectin has shown promising results as a potential treatment in small studies in humans.
    Anyone eligible and with COVID-19 symptoms can join the trial from anywhere in the UK, either online, over the phone or via their health care professional.
    From today, ivermectin is being investigated in the UK as part of the Platform Randomised Trial of Treatments in the Community for Epidemic and Pandemic Illnesses (PRINCIPLE), the world’s largest clinical trial of possible COVID-19 treatments for recovery at home and in other non-hospital settings.

    Led by the University of Oxford, PRINCIPLE is investigating treatments for people at more risk of serious illness from COVID-19 which can speed up recovery, reduce the severity of symptoms and prevent the need for hospital admission. The study has so far recruited more than 5,000 volunteers from across the UK.

    Ivermectin is a safe, broad spectrum antiparasitic drug which is in wide use globally to treat parasitic infections.

    With known antiviral properties, ivermectin has been shown to reduce SARS-CoV-2 replication in laboratory studies. Small pilot studies show that early administration with ivermectin can reduce viral load and the duration of symptoms in some patients with mild COVID-19. Even though ivermectin is used routinely in some countries to treat COVID-19, there is little evidence from large-scale randomised controlled trials to demonstrate that it can speed up recovery from the illness or reduce hospital admission.

    Professor Chris Butler, from the University Oxford’s Nuffield Department of Primary Care Health Sciences, Joint Chief Investigator of the PRINCIPLE trial, said, ‘Ivermectin is readily available globally, has been in wide use for many other infectious conditions so it’s a well-known medicine with a good safety profile, and because of the early promising results in some studies it is already being widely used to treat COVID-19 in several countries. By including ivermectin in a large-scale trial like PRINCIPLE, we hope to generate robust evidence to determine how effective the treatment is against COVID-19, and whether there are benefits or harms associated with its use.’

    Following a screening questionnaire to confirm eligibility, participants enrolled in the study will be randomly assigned to receive a three-day course of ivermectin treatment. They will be followed-up for 28 days and will be compared with participants who have been assigned to receive the usual standard of NHS care only. People aged 18 to 64 with certain underlying health conditions or shortness of breath from COVID-19, or aged over 65, are eligible to join the trial within the first 14 days of experiencing COVID-19 symptoms or receiving a positive test.

    People with severe liver disease, who are on the blood-thinning medication warfarin, or taking other treatments known to interact with ivermectin, will be excluded.

    The trial can be joined easily from anywhere in the UK either online, over the telephone or via a GP practice, and without the need for face-to-face visits with the trial team in Oxford.

    Ivermectin is the seventh treatment to be investigated in the PRINCIPLE trial, and is currently being evaluated alongside the influenza antiviral favipiravir.

    In April 2021, PRINCIPLE reported interim evidence of the UK’s first effective drug to treat COVID-19 in patients at home, inhaled budesonide, showing the treatment can reduce recovery time by a median of three days. The treatment has since been included in clinical guidelines for treating early-stage COVID-19 across the UK, Canada and India.

    PRINCIPLE is funded by a grant to the University of Oxford from UK Research and Innovation and the Department of Health and Social Care through the National Institute for Health Research as part of the UK Government’s rapid research response fund.

    The trial is supported by a vast network of health and care professionals in care homes, pharmacies, NHS 111 Hubs, hospitals and more than 1400 GP practices across England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

    To find out more about how to join the study, visit http://www.principletrial.org

    ENDS

    Notes for Editors:

    To speak to a researcher, contact: Dan Richards-Doran, Nuffield Department of Primary Care Health Sciences, University of Oxford dan.richards-doran@phc.ox.ac.uk

    #77982
    Huskynut
    Participant

    This is difficult to phrase without sounding disrespectful for all the value you provide at TAE, but I’m not convinced that you – of all people – get to question why Taibbi et al were slow to the party.

    A year ago, TAE was focussed pretty much exclusively on Worldometer stats, Taleb’s “maximum cautionary principle”, the necessity of lockdowns, and the value of vaccines.

    A few of the crankiest contrarians amongst the commentariat were adamant that on first principles every MSM screed we were being saturated with was pure idiocy, or at the very least questionable but we were very much in the minority.

    Credit to you – with the accumulation of evidence over time, you changed your mind.. and sooner than the Taibbi’s of the world have done. But it seems to me the TAE commentariat changed your thinking rather than vv, which is presumably the same process that has happened with Taibbi. In which case labelling his slow uptake as “cute” feels a bit off to me.

    #77983
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Reading some of my comments to the period huskynut alludes to, it just occurred to me we still don’t know who killed Seth Rich. On his topic, its hard to swim against the nature of humanity, unless that is your nature. A small percentage of us got it, a larger percentage think they got it but crumble at the first sign of it actually costing them something, and most of us just go with the flow. Like the person who stops somewhere like they are waiting in line and then a line actually begins to form behind them.

    #77986
    Germ
    Participant

    From June 28, all Moscow cafes and restaurants will only serve customers who have been vaccinated; who have had Covid-19 in the past six months or who present a negative Covid-19 test taken within the past 78 hours

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/06/22/coronavirus-in-russia-the-latest-news-june-22-a69117

    #77987
    Germ
    Participant

    “Nail salon in Dubai installs microchips on customers’ nails”

    “We install the information that you want, like your name, your mobile number, your social media accounts and website as well,” salon founder Nour Makarem told CNN.

    Nail salon in Dubai installs microchips on customers’ nails

    #77990
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    You forgot to add “And Team Blue hides behind its self-inflicted mental retardation.”

    I think it took a while for so many of us to “get there” because the psychological campaign waged by the powers that be was very astutely executed and pervasive. It certainly helped the whole thing along that it became swept up into the never-ending partisan culture-war. But what made me first start scratching my head and making me wonder if the mainstream narrative had the straight dope, was when so many poor and working people had their lives upended if not destroyed by the economic effects of the lockdowns but the billionaires made out like bandits (as they seem to in every conceivable mass-crisis).

    That said, I wish the early lockdown protesters would have recalled that line from the old Beatles song “Revolution”: When you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow. The same principle rather applies to waving Confederate flags on the steps of the state capitol!

    #77993
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @ Roboto: It took a while for me to “get there” and I’ll raise my hand and admit that initially I fell for the pandemic narrative. Maybe that’s because of what was streaming out of Italy, coupled with living in NY where we appeared to be ground zero for what would spread throughout the entire US (spoiler alert: it didn’t). I even recall pushing back on Dr D, early on, when he bashed the pandemic and flatten the curve narrative. (Dr D: you were right, I was wrong. Time to admit that.)

    Quite a while ago Dr D posted a comment here that I saved because it was a kind and, I felt, humane acknowledgment of the fact we all do the best we can at the time, and we’re all at our best when we adjust what we think and do based on new information. Hat tip to Dr D., whose comment follows:

    “For Raul, he was on about this, but I gave him an awful hard time for most of a year without any pressure to backlash. That’s free speech, so we can have free ideas. Some others did too. So it’s not about being wrong: in a world of universal lies it was hard to tell what was going on, and we each pinned our estimations above or below the actual.

    I’m not sure what more a person can do. Not be wrong? Not speak? What?”

    Dr D

    #77994

    Huskynut- yes, we have evolved here in how we see this whole affair. Most of that came from looking around and not seeing what was being reported- in fact, seeing the opposite. “A friend of a neighbor’s daughter’s stepfather…” does not equal a pandemic. A PCR test doesn’t not equal an illness.
    John Day provided our front line reporting. I award him a halo.
    There are many sites that have gone through this- people seeing through the propaganda so much earlier than the sub-mainstream (it hasn’t gotten to the real mainstream yet.) It is fascinating to surf across these sites and realize it takes time for information to travel- even without censorship.
    “I said that two months ago!” doesn’t help- say it again, and again and again. Be glad someone else has now said it and this time it got picked up. The truth doesn’t have an author.

    On a side note- corticosteroids such as budesonide cause cataracts- more than the experts [ahem] previously thought.

    #78003
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Huskynut – yes you are good to pull our heads in but some of us remained quite open to being bullshitted and it was Dr D’s early rants about numbers not adding up that kept a lot of minds open. I do think though that when so many thousands of people have died through lack of Ivermectin it is frustrating to find the wider published authors getting on board later in the game when every second counts.
    I think fear got the better of me because there are still small pockets of trust left in my heart when it comes to authorities. There is no trust now.

    #78005
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Back to the fear thing – at the end of the day ALL fear is related to bodies and bodily attacks which is why our saints preserve us – they see through that. I have found this rolling totalitarian thunder frightening at times, as it threatens my optimism for humanity. We need to find comfort in the now. The peace of being still and the considering the phrase “forgiveness is kind and does nothing – it merely looks, waits, and judges not”. There are some among us who are vaccinated and this should breed sensitivity in us when we want to freak out and proclaim ideas like mass genocide is coming etc. Right now we know (as far as I can tell) that the safety profile is no where evn close to what it should be regarding COV 2 vaccines. What we don’t know is how dangerous, how long the danger etc. I think we all keep asking questions and looking but also be cautiously optimistic that the world will continue (albeit in a more shitty form).
    Love you guys.
    You little internet connected, knowledge-hungry avatars.

    #78007

    “There is no trust now.”
    I suspect that was one point of the exercise.
    “Helping.” That’s what Dr. D wrote that adjusted my beams.
    The ivermectin study can’t work, can it? (Thanks, Germ!) Wouldn’t it still pull the emergency use authorization?
    (I can’t understand why remdesivir didn’t do it- they claimed it was effective….)

    #78008
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @ Oxy: you are on fire this “evening” (my time zone). Wonderful comments, especially the note about our saints. Thank you.

    #78009
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @ oxy: I second it: John Day should be awarded a halo.

    As far as Dr D … he can ruffle feathers at times, but he’s our stand up comic, in a sense. He uses hyperbole to poke at accepted narratives in the attempt to penetrate the swirling fog. I’ve liked his comments from the first time I visited TAE and he remains one of my favorites. Plus he’s freaking intelligent.

    And finally, Raul does a yeoman’s job of sifting through headlines and sharing with us what is going on in the world – the stuff we won’t see mentioned in mainstream. What he shares shifts as the tides shift and he stays up with it as best he can. Not an easy undertaking and how he does it, day in and day out, is beyond my comprehension. I’ll award Raul the gold star. Or two. Or maybe three. Or …

    #78010
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Whoops! Sorry, “my parents said” … I second (your comment) … John Day should be awarded a halo. A bit of a bumble there attributing to the wrong person. Time to shut down and go have dinner …

    #78015
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Re: Moscow eateries requiring vaccines or proof of natural immunity (at least they are acknowledging this) or negative test to be admitted. I kind of thought Russia was not on the official script, but I guess I was wrong. Putin doesn’t seem like the type to go along with a big pharma charade. I figured they would be all over Ivermectin, too. Just strikes me as a odd and not what I would expect.

    #78017
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    I would certainly be interested in hearing whatever information anybody might have on the apparent safety of the Russian “Sputnik V” vaccine.

    #78019
    oxymoron
    Participant

    It’s hard not to speculate about what appears to be a hidden hand

    Dr Robert Malone – inventor of mRNA vaccine technology

    #78020
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @ absolute: maybe Putin is playing 14 dimensional chess. 😉

    #78021
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @ mister: I’ll never let any person from any country inject any vaccine into me ever again in my life. That’s my level of trust in the apparent safety of anything any public entity is proposing at this point.

    As oxy said, “I think fear got the better of me because there are still small pockets of trust left in my heart when it comes to authorities. There is no trust now.”

    Yup. No trust left. Take that needle and stick it. I’ll die from something different, thank you.

    #78022
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    I recommend watching this one soon if you’re at all inclined to watch it. I suspect it may not be up on YouTube for very long.

    #78023
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    No weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the Benghazi rat line of weapons to the Islamic State, billion dollar cookies handed out to neo-Nazis in the Euromaidan Coup, the Great Recession, unproven gene therapy injected into half of all Americans, known COVID unpatenable treatments ignored, and 617,864 Americans dead.

    F. Scott Fitzgerald explains it. “I couldn’t forgive [Tom] or like him, but I saw that what he had done was, to him, entirely justified. It was all very careless and confused. They were careless people, Tom and Daisy—they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.”

    There is an alternative. Nations with functional governments and Public Health Systems; China, South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand can pull through. Unless the Constitution and government by and for the people is restored, billionaire profiteers jailed; the USA’s fate is to become a northern Brazil; mercenary guarded gated communities surrounded by poor sick favelas. That is, if mankind survives the coming possible extinction events, nuclear war and climate change.

    #78024
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @ oxy, I have a question: I keep seeing interviews, essays and comments about how it’s not just greed but evil that is behind what is going on with the vaccines. If “evil” does exist then “good” must also exist because the natural world always maintains balance over the long haul. So … if evil is an entity, of sorts, that exists in this world, what is the entity of “good” that balances it?

    #78025
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Mister Roboto
    I recommend watching this one soon if you’re at all inclined to watch it.

    Thanks, very informative…

    #78027
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    From oxymoron: “It’s hard not to speculate about what appears to be a hidden hand.”
    – Dr Robert Malone

    Curiouser and Curiouser!”, cried Alice.

    I remember getting thoroughly spooked with the stories coming out of China a 1 ½ years ago. Especially, the plumes of gas coming from the crematoria that showed up on air quality satellite images. Then I looked at all the international air travel and told the morning coffee group that a pandemic was just a matter of time. They thought I was nuts, though, because the media were burying the story so as not to spook the markets.

    I was following Chris Martenson at the time, getting all wrapped up in his wave theory and case counts. A couple local ladies were making cotton masks, and I would buy up whole bunches and hand them out at the local grocery store before people even started wearing them. Then after a couple of months something shifted. I started noticing glitches in the Matrix that didn’t add up. What started out as a health issue slowly morphed into a political issue with authoritarian overtones. I stopped giving out masks, backed away from my initial assessment, and began to “wait and see.”

    Dr. D’s rants about the lack excess deaths during flu season took a while to sink in. I was willing to keep an open mind, mostly because I respect his take on things. Also, I didn’t want to believe that he has lost the scent and was barking up the wrong tree. That would’ve been hard to stomach.

    So, circling back to the “hidden hand”, I jettisoned my Big Pharma “greed” theory a while ago and really believe that something more sinister is at work. Too many nations following the same script. Too much coercion and hard-selling. Too much censorship. So many lies. The destruction of small business. The misery of lockdowns. The suppression of effective therapies. Repeated attempts to introduce vaccine passport tech.

    Yes, this ceased being a health issue in early 2020, and became something else.

    My thanks to all here who were on the right trail from the get-go.

    #78028
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Both Sino-pharm and Sino-vac vaccines are derived from whole virus’s…the old fashioned way of making vaccines…that worked…
    So far, nothing noteworthy, as far as adverse side effects AFAIK…interesting…& hopeful…
    At day’s end, Ivermectin still seems the best course of action…

    #78029
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    I flipped from “it’s a nothing burger” to “it’s something almost as scary as the vaccine”. I was one who harassed Ilargi mercilessly in the early days. (Sorry for that Ilargi.)

    Given the massive coordination around the world, again, I can’t buy that this situation is clear-cut. Many experts with seemingly good intentions disagree on various aspects of the issue. Vested interests is the simplest explanation to the delay in using ivermectin – no need to assume some grand scheme of depopulation – just ordinary greed will do the job like it does to cause wars over resources. As for many of the other aspects of covid, it seems that great minds differ. My two favourite alt health gurus parted company on the issue of vaccines: Jon Barron said get vaccinated while Mercola said “no” to vaccines.

    I don’t really like the term “evil” — too much religious overtone and doesn’t really provide as much explanatory power as more concrete descriptions – greedy, uncaring, power-hungry, selfish.

    #78030
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    sumac.carol
    I don’t really like the term “evil” — too much religious overtone and doesn’t really provide as much explanatory power as more concrete descriptions – greedy, uncaring, power-hungry, selfish.

    Yes, articulate what is meant; not use buzz words/phrases…

    upstateNYer

    So … if evil is an entity, of sorts, that exists in this world, what is the entity of “good” that balances it?

    Excellent question…

    #78032
    Huskynut
    Participant

    Thanks for the comments and responses today.
    I was unnaturally cranky this morning when I wrote, so I was worried I’d taking the proverbial shit in the communal living room that I’d live to regret..
    I don’t know if it was related (because standard temporal physics would be undermined), but this afternoon Wellington NZ went into “Level 2” because an Australian travelled through the city, then tested positive once they returned home.. Jesus wept…
    Now they’re trying to trace contacts/locations.. my organisation are working from home till Monday.. and it’s my 8yo daughter’s birthday on Friday.. at this stage her birthday plans are still on track (ie less than 100 people gathering.. I assume they can stay 2m+ apart at laser strike..)
    It hurts. It’s deeply demotivating, and depressing. I had a rant this afternoon at a coworker who was deeply proud to have got some of the first vaccines in Auckland, together with his wife. Nothing too bad, but how do collegial relationships persevere when they say “I got one of the first vaccines” and I reply “I’m sorry to hear that”.
    And yes I can pull my head in and BS or say nothing, but that’s less and less tenable over time..
    The tension it’s a building, and something’s gonna happen even if we don;t know what.
    And if i can paraphrase my earlier comment today – I for one am glad that Taibbi has taken to the pen, regardless of how late it was. He’s built a platform for himself from first principles. He’s not protected by a corporate legal team with wodges of cash and inside connections. He’s not made Covid a theme of his columns. But when he brings he credibility to the contrary party.. I want to welcome it. Late, no problem.. hopefully he’s one of us now..

    #78033
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Evil… I must admit I take the bait – relentlessly and I rail and despair at the shit-fuckery but. It is a big but too. The way I see it is – I woke up this morning and looked into a mirror and a head was looking back at me. I am seeing this world through bodies eyes. This means I will often be defensive and see attack – from evil. But that has to be my ego otherwise all is lost. The ‘Good’ – I believe comes when people see themselves as bigger than just one body – to such an extent they will even care about other countries and whole of humanity (like Dr D, Madamski and Raul amongst all others on this forum). The ‘evil’ ones are thinking about what they can accumulate for their individual self.
    They need our compassion (and a kick in the arse) and we need our compassion too because we will experience the anger and it is not fun – I know.
    The ‘good’ are prepared for hard work, sharing, honesty etc, and hate lies because it’s selfish and want for others what they want for themselves – liberty and freedom at whatever level they will accept.

    There is another concept I want to lay out at some stage around hierarchy of illusions and why it fails and also it’s delicious allure. For now I’m stuck musing on good and evil – thanks for throwing out the thought ball upstateNYer

    #78034
    Boogaloo
    Participant

    A few days ago VietnamVet encouraged us all to listen to the three hour Dark Horse podcast. I had started it, but quit after 30 minutes because I was so annoyed by the entrepreneur who kept interrupting the other two. I went back and listened to the rest, even though the interruptions just got worse and worse, and that guy got more and more annoying. I agree it was worth it to listen to the end. But it was difficult.

    So yesterday I got vaccinated.

    No, not with any of the coronavirus vaccines. I restarted my Hepatitis B vaccine. I took the first two shots 20 years ago, but never finished with the third, so my antibodies never got as high as they were supposed to be. I dug out my WHO vaccine record book last night — that fold up yellow paper that fits into a clear plastic cover about the size of a passport. I actually shocked myself at the number of vaccines I received over the years. As an adult, I have been vaccinated for yellow fever, rabies, Japanese enchephalitis, typhoid, cholera, diptheria, whooping cough, Hepatitis A and Hepatitis B (though I didn’t finish that last one). Plus all the childhood vaccines. Plus the annual flu vaccines. I never hesitated to get any vaccine before now, and I never had any negative reaction of any kind, however mild. In my mind, these new vaccines are different.

    So yesterday I have gone around boasting to people that I got my vaccination, but then explaining that no, no, no, not one of those COVID vaccinations — I won’t get one of those until I am practically forced to.

    #78065
    Dimitri
    Participant

    @huskynet

    No need to apologize. You were right.

    @ dr d and dr John Day

    THANK YOU

    #78073
    zerosum
    Participant

    Let’s Save Some More Lives


    Let’s Save Some More Lives

    Yes! YES!
    You really had no idea? We did at the Automatic Earth,

    where have all these people, the writers and their readers, been in the past year?

    Michael Yeadon, former Chief Scientific Officer of Pfizer,

    Matt Taibbi, Michael Capuzzo

    the American Journal of Therapeutics recently published:

    The Journal of Antibiotics

    after restriction to 29 peer-reviewed studies: 82% and 88%

    100% of the 17 Randomized Controlled Trials (RCTs)

    Those numbers are clear enough, I bet you if you get an honest report on the vaccines none can compete, but for these science journals the same question must be asked: where were you over the past year? You really had no idea? We did at the Automatic Earth, but our reach is limited; we’re lucky if we convinced a few thousand people to obtain ivermectin, if they could get it in the first place. Which is great, don’t get me wrong.

    Who are these people listening to, who controls the narratives?

    Closing the barn door. Covering their ass.
    Ivermectin is the seventh treatment to be investigated in the PRINCIPLE trial, and is currently being evaluated alongside the influenza antiviral favipiravir.

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    Looking back
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    Debt Rattle January 24 2020


    The Coronavirus

    Didn’t you hear it?
    FLAP – FLAP -flap – flap
    Was it a butterfly or a black swan or a diversion or an excuse/exaggeration to do a drill/test of the response system
    Say bye-bye to Yesterday.
    Say hello to a different tomorrow.
    ——

    #78080
    Noirette
    Participant

    One thing that troubled me right from the start was who was dying of COV19. ??

    I couldn’t grasp it. Clearly, factors, number one tops: Age.

    Children weren’t dying but over 70’s were. Recall, there were all kinds of papers and analyses about who was most vulnerable, affected, in 2020.

    I read a lot of those and even made a chart. Men were more vulnerable than women – died more speedily, earlier. (I even posted about this several times iirc. Women are infected more often because smiley jobs.)

    Ppl with ‘compromised immune systems’ (vague, meaningless) were, are, ‘at risk’, as well as ppl with ‘co-morbitities’ like diabetes, a sort of catch-all for ppl who are more likely to be ‘impacted’ with anything at all and then die. Only one interesting ‘result’ (at the time) stood out – smokers were less affected; this was quickly denied, ppl were advised to stop smoking because! increased COV risks.

    Afaik no medical explanation for the ‘old ppl’ deaths vs. middle age / youth was ever put forward, except old, more vulnerable, ill, compromised, etc.

    I’m not suggesting the virus was engineered to impact old ppl (don’t think that is possible to do as of now), or to target ‘poorer’ ppl, e.g. in the US Blacks / Hispanics, with overall worse heath care, less good living / working conditions, etc. Nor that some ppl, say age 20 – 45 haven’t been hit very hard by COV19, with unexpected deaths, long covid and so on.

    No solid medical explanation (that I know of) exists as to why in the say 20 – 50 age group one person suffers v. little, another is sick but recovers quickly, and another dies. Wouldn’t that be the first thing to investigate? Even thru some data base trawling and correlations? Am I missing something? What?

    Basically what happened, imho *now*, is that statiscally expected, upcoming deaths were pushed forward by 2, 3, 4 months or a year or even more, and attributed to Covid.

    By various means. Leaving infection pools to fester, sending old ppl infected into old ppls homes, refusing to treat affected patients, sending them home (in France, hunker down and take Doliprane), forbidding regular treatment with standard meds, bascially stopping docs from treating their patients following their ‘decisions.’ Isolating patients and depriving them of care, in old ppls homes, and letting spread take place in other places, like prisons. In hospitals, putting ppl on vents (e.g. in the US raking in money for that.) Plus what nobody wants to talk about, the *do no ressucitate* orders that were implemented in various forms in various countries.

    #78087
    maryballon
    Participant

    I am not sure that I can express this clearly but here goes.. There is one aspect of the silence surrounding effective treatments that is not mentioned in these comments. What does “cancel culture” mean to you? What does “wokeness” mean? My thought is that the deeply felt, internalized, identity of most people working in bureaucracies world wide is that their purpose is to maintain a type of unity. It is a belief system! Along this line, Julius Ruechel wrote this in March “Over the past few decades a gradual philosophical shift replaced our value system built around inalienable individual rights with a value system focused on maximising the “greater good” for the majority, known as utilitarianism, which leaves the crowd uniquely vulnerable to falling prey to fear and false propaganda”.
    https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/03/preparing-ground-for-mass-hysteria-what.html

    #78093
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @maryballon, I think you stated that very well. Thank you.

    #78100
    Bill7
    Participant

    > @huskynet No need to apologize. You were right. <

    #78105
    Bill7
    Participant

    > It’s mighty cute that Matt Taibbi gets some coverage after writing Why Has “Ivermectin” Become a Dirty Word? , just like it was cute that Michael Capuzzo got some when he wrote The Drug that Cracked Covid a few weeks ago. Question is, where have all these people, the writers and their readers, been in the past year? <

    Interesting question, for those of us with clear memories of that period, and perhaps more.

    B7

    #78159
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Sorry to be so frightful and a brat back when this started, I even bowed out for some time not to be a pest. However, it was so important and so clear, and I couldn’t not keep plugging, so I appreciate the support. I can just do so little. The only little thing I can do is tell the truth to some friends, so I do that.

    This is just what I did back in ’01 and the Patriot Act. Screaming, SCREAMING that this exact thing would happen, that it was all fake, all profit, all a power grab to trample anyone.

    Here’s the thing though: Nobody listened then although it was way, way more obvious. It took years, ten years, not even now, really. So that the people can catch on in one year may be a hopeful sign even though I fear the risks are now wildly higher and may even be fatal.

    If they can be pried out from the trust they don’t deserve, it will be a fair loss in the service of a greater war. A war they started and forced down on us. And right now, again we don’t know.

    At the beginning, also remember I was warning that encouraging parades and NOT closing the borders was dangerous. And they fought that just as hard saying CV existed was racist, made-up DT fantasy. That was back when Covid didn’t exist to Team Blue, but only Team Red, before they traded realites. ….Aaaaand no one noticed. Aaaaand now that never happened, Red has always denied it, we were always at war with Estasia. Sigh. But I did that because the highly-controlled evidence from China was concerning, and we needed some time to know more. NOT because I thought we should lockdown or that lockdowns and cutting 25% of wages for the poor while stimulus $1T for the rich would work. It wouldn’t and didn’t. We needed the information and then we (Team Red, sort of) got it and moved on.

    We’re like that now. We don’t know. About mRNA, I fear, and results are bad, but I don’t know yet. Waiting is very hard, especially when their position on the field suggests it’s a setup for sterilization and random-culling. I hope not, but honestly it already has. They failed at the initial releast which wasn’t as deadly as when tested on run-down and vitamin D-deficient Uighurs, so I can only hope if what seems is true, the body is far more able to heal than most give credit and many could recover somewhat. Provided they get the truth and the treatments are advertised. Which are still being savaged by trolls on the field. They won’t even admit heart-damage in children, and heart-damage is not recoverable (in theory). Lifelong maiming of children, on purpose, for no statistical savings.

    Waiting, waiting. Frustrated and waiting. Forgive my bad language — I speak American, in a war — and I’m waiting. Copy this to the present comment, 6/24

    “War is months of endless boredom, punctuated by moments of complete terror.”

    #78203
    restless94111
    Participant

    I wish someone would tell me why in the past few weeks there have been a ton of articles and videos about ivermectn,but hydroxychloroquine is being studiously ignored,even thought both drugs are equally effective in stopping the virus.

    The fear level the cancel level must be high. Still I guess allowing one of the two to be talked about again is better than nothing. Still you would think that Automatic Earth and all the other outlets would use this wedge to add Hydroxychloroquine back into the spotlight..It feels kind of cowardly.

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