Jul 032021
 


Julian Assange turns 50 today, in isolation

 

Polymerase-specific T Cells Expand In Seronegative SARS-CoV-2 Infection (Mxiv)
Clot Death Risk To 18-39s From AZ Vaccine Is 2x Covid Death Risk (IE)
French Senate Considers Mandatory Covid Vaccines For Adults Aged 24-59 (RT)
Bali Swept Up In Indonesia’s Harsh Lockdown Despite 71% Vaccination Rate (RT)
Tech Giants Still Not Coming Clean About Covid-19 Disinformation, Says EU (TC)
Vatican In Push Against Vaccine Scepticism (RT)
“Intellectual Capture?” On YouTube’s Demonetization of Bret Weinstein (Taibbi)
Stumbling Toward Reality (Kunstler)
Natural Resource Drain Created By “Net Zero Emission” Targets (ZH)
Biden Aide Charges “Sabotage” Of Harris (Axios)
New Emails Raise New Allegations of Influence Peddling By Hunter Biden (Turley)
Key Assange Witness Recants – With Zero Corporate Media Coverage (Fair)

 

 

Delta Case Fatality Rate in UK appears 8 times higher among the fully vaccinated than the unvaccinated

 

 

Early intervention

 

 

In the strongest immune systems, T cells kill the virus so fast the body has no time (or reason) to create antibodies. So an antibody test will raise an alarm: there are none! A PCR test will likely show the virus though, even though it’s dead. You can’t win. Both test results will lead to a call for a vaccine.

Polymerase-specific T Cells Expand In Seronegative SARS-CoV-2 Infection (Mxiv)

Individuals with likely exposure to the highly infectious SARS-CoV-2 do not necessarily develop PCR or antibody positivity, suggesting some may clear sub-clinical infection before seroconversion. T cells can contribute to the rapid clearance of SARS-CoV-2 and other coronavirus infections1–5 . We hypothesised that pre-existing memory T cell responses, with cross-protective potential against SARS-CoV-26–12, would expand in vivo to mediate rapid viral control, potentially aborting infection. We studied T cells against the replication transcription complex (RTC) of SARS-CoV-2 since this is transcribed first in the viral life cycle13–15 and should be highly conserved. We measured SARS-CoV-2-reactive T cells in a cohort of intensively

monitored healthcare workers (HCW) who remained repeatedly negative by PCR, antibody binding, and neutralisation for SARS-CoV-2 (exposed seronegative, ES). 16-weeks postrecruitment, ES had memory T cells that were stronger and more multispecific than an unexposed pre-pandemic cohort, and more frequently directed against the RTC than the structural protein-dominated responses seen post-detectable infection (matched concurrent cohort). The postulate that HCW with the strongest RTC-specific T cells had an abortive infection was supported by a low-level increase in IFI27 transcript, a robust early innate signature of SARS-CoV-2 infection16.

We showed that the RNA-polymerase within RTC was the largest region of high sequence conservation across human seasonal coronaviruses (HCoV) and was preferentially targeted by T cells from UK and Singapore pre-pandemic cohorts and from ES. RTC epitope-specific T cells capable of cross-recognising HCoV variants were identified in ES. Longitudinal samples from ES and an additional validation cohort, showed pre-existing RNA-polymerase-specific T cells expanded in vivo following SARS-CoV-2 exposure, becoming enriched in the memory response of those with abortive compared to overt infection. In summary, we provide evidence of abortive seronegative SARS-CoV-2 infection with expansion of cross-reactive RTC-specific T cells, highlighting these highly conserved proteins as targets for future vaccines against endemic and emerging Coronaviridae.

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But the benefits still outweigh the risks, says the Irish health body. Who are these people?

Clot Death Risk To 18-39s From AZ Vaccine Is 2x Covid Death Risk (IE)

The HSE has admitted a greater risk of blood clotting in younger people still exists for the AstraZeneca vaccine, but that risk is now outweighed by a need to speed up public vaccination. A new modelling study published in the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control’s (ECDC) medical journal has concluded that the dangers presented to younger people by the AstraZeneca vaccine are greater than the benefits. The study, published in the weekly edition of the Eurosurveillance journal, models four months of a vaccine distribution strategy in France involving Vaxzevria (commonly called AstraZeneca) from May 2021, and concludes that using the vaccine on the entire adult population there would avert 10 deaths from Covid among 18-39-year-olds, but would be associated with 21 deaths from blood clotting in the same age grouping over the same time period.


“Our results highlight the clear benefit of the distribution of Vaxzevria towards the population aged 55 years and older and provide valuable insight for public health decision making,” the study concludes. Last April, the National Immunisation Advisory Committee’s (Niac) recommended that AstraZeneca should only be given to people over the age of 60 in Ireland due to the risk of very rare blood clots and the fact older people are more susceptible to severe Covid infection than their younger counterparts. The move followed a wave of similar decisions across other European health bodies as details of the clotting risk solidified. However, in light of dire projections earlier in the week from Nphet concerning the potential spread of the Delta variant of Covid-19, the HSE announced that from Monday, July 5, all 18-34-year-olds will be able to avail of Janssen vaccines, administered by 750 pharmacies.

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Illegal. Simple.

French Senate Considers Mandatory Covid Vaccines For Adults Aged 24-59 (RT)

The French Senate is considering implementing obligatory vaccinations for those aged 24-59 to help the country weather the anticipated next spike of coronavirus infections in what would be a fourth wave of cases. The body published a report from its Common Mission of Information on Thursday, advocating for mandatory vaccinations of young to middle-aged adults on the grounds it could significantly lower hospitalization rates and deaths. The report issued a stern warning: “act now to limit impact”. The report follows Prime Minister Jean Castex’s announcement on Wednesday that he will consult elected officials and chairmen of parliament on the compulsory vaccination of caregivers, with senators pushing for this to also include 24-59 year olds.


The age group was chosen as over 90% of people infected with Covid are under 60 in France, the Pasteur Institute said. To prevent hospitalization rates rising like last year, the Institute found that among 12-17 year-olds, a 30% vaccination rate was needed, and 70% among 18-59s. A vaccine uptake of 90% for those over 60 was deemed necessary. However, France’s vaccination campaign – which has prioritized those most susceptible to catching Covid, such as healthcare workers and people over 65 – is lagging behind these targets. Among 18-29 year-olds, 15.36% are fully vaccinated. Just under a quarter of those aged 30-49 have been inoculated, while the figure rises to half among 50-64 year olds.

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260 million people stretched out over countless islands. Give them IVM.

Bali Swept Up In Indonesia’s Harsh Lockdown Despite 71% Vaccination Rate (RT)

Hundreds of roadblocks and checkpoints have been erected across Indonesia as authorities attempt to enforce a harsh lockdown aimed at curbing the spread of Covid-19, which has surged in the country in recent weeks. “We are setting up [patrols] in 21 locations where typically there are crowds,” Istiono, the head of Indonesia’s national traffic police, who goes by only one name, told reporters on Friday night. “Where there are street stalls and cafes, we will close those streets, maybe from around 6pm until 4am.” The beefed-up patrols and roadblocks will focus on the islands of Java – the country’s most populous, where the national capital of Jakarta is located – as well as Bali, a common tourist destination.

Some 21,000 police officers and soldiers will enforce the new restrictions, according to a police spokesman cited by Reuters. They will also administer random coronavirus tests at checkpoints. The move comes soon after President Joko Widodo declared a new lockdown earlier on Friday, set to last into late July, though it could be extended. The order requires all “non-essential” businesses to shut their doors, while Java- and Bali-based students will have to learn from home if possible. Parks, malls, indoor restaurants and places of worship, among other public spaces, have also been closed.= Some exceptions were made for those who are both vaccinated and test negative for the virus, as they were permitted to travel long-distance in the affected areas.

Indonesia is currently facing one of Asia’s worst coronavirus outbreaks, tallying more than 20,000 cases each day in recent weeks – many believed linked to the Delta variant first observed in India – and that only accounts for those verified by testing. The country has smashed its own daily infection record for the last 12 days, according to Reuters, reporting 25,830 cases on Friday, as well as a high of 539 fatalities. While a national vaccination drive is underway, largely relying on a shot developed by China’s SinoVac, only about 5% of Indonesia’s 260 million-strong population has been fully immunized against the virus, according to figures compiled by Our World in Data. That amounts to about 13.7 million people.

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“They simply cannot police themselves alone.” Orwell.

Tech Giants Still Not Coming Clean About Covid-19 Disinformation, Says EU (TC)

European Union lawmakers have asked tech giants to continue reporting on efforts to combat the spread of vaccine disinformation on their platforms for a further six months. “The continuation of the monitoring programme is necessary as the vaccination campaigns throughout the EU is proceeding with a steady and increasing pace, and the upcoming months will be decisive to reach a high level of vaccination in Member States. It is key that in this important period vaccine hesitancy is not fuelled by harmful disinformation,” the Commission writes today. Facebook, Google, Microsoft, TikTok and Twitter are signed up to make monthly reports as a result of being participants in the bloc’s (non-legally binding) Code of Practice on Disinformation — although, going forward, they’ll be switching to bi-monthly reporting.


Publishing the latest batch of platform reports for April, the Commission said the tech giants have shown they’re unable to police “dangerous lies” by themselves — while continuing to express dissatisfaction at the quality and granularity of the data that is being (voluntarily) provided by platforms vis-à-via how they’re combating online disinformation generally. “These reports show how important it is to be able to effectively monitor the measures put in place by the platforms to reduce disinformation,” said Vera Jourova, the EU’s VP for values and transparency, in a statement. “We decided to extend this programme, because the amount of dangerous lies continues to flood our information space and because it will inform the creation of the new generation Code against disinformation. We need a robust monitoring programme, and clearer indicators to measure impact of actions taken by platforms. They simply cannot police themselves alone.”

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You would think the pope has better thinngs to do?!

Vatican In Push Against Vaccine Scepticism (RT)

The official bioethics academy of the Catholic Church has come forward alongside a host of global medical associations to demand an end to the “myths and disinformation” interfering with the fight against Covid-19. The Pontifical Council of Life (VPCL) and several international physicians’ groups spoke with reporters on Friday in what was described as an “all-out effort” to set straight the disinformation surrounding the vaccine’s place in religious doctrine, insisting the pharmaceutical mixture was not only safe and effective but also ethical under the Catholic faith. While acknowledging that some reluctance to take the jab in “disadvantaged communities” was linked to previous “breaches of trust in medical research” and overall “suspicion” of pharma firms, Friday’s joint statement said a “more pernicious form” of vaccine hesitancy was fueled by “unfounded and misleading claims and myths” and amplified on social media.


“Considered one of the greatest achievements of modern medicine, vaccines play a vital role in the prevention of infectious diseases,” they said. The groups noted the problem becomes even more complex given the vaccine skepticism within many religious groups, and even the medical community, calling for a united front against disinformation among spiritual leaders and healthcare professionals. All relevant stakeholders must exhaust all efforts to confront vaccine hesitancy by sending a clear message about the safety and necessity of vaccines and counteracting vaccine myths and disinformation The statement followed a day-long online seminar sponsored by the VPCL, along with the World Medical Association of France and the German Medical Association.

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Fitting on Assange’s Bday.

“Intellectual Capture?” On YouTube’s Demonetization of Bret Weinstein (Taibbi)

YouTube’s decision with regard to Weinstein and Heying seems part of an overall butterfly effect, as numerous other figures either connected to the topic or to DarkHorse have been censured by various platforms. Weinstein guest Dr. Robert Malone, a former Salk Institute researcher often credited with helping develop mRNA vaccine technology, has been suspended from LinkedIn, and Weinstein guest Dr. Pierre Kory of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) has had his appearances removed by YouTube. Even Satoshi Omura, who won the Nobel Prize in 2015 for his work on ivermectin, reportedly had a video removed by YouTube this week. There are several factors that make the DarkHorse incident different from other major Silicon Valley moderation decisions, including the fact that the content in question doesn’t involve electoral politics, foreign intervention, or incitement.

The main issue is the possible blurring of lines between public and private censorship. When I contacted YouTube about Weinstein two weeks ago, I was told, “In general, we rely on guidance from local and global health authorities (FDA, CDC, WHO, NHS, etc) in developing our COVID-19 misinformation policies.” The question is, how active is that “guidance”? Is YouTube acting in consultation with those bodies in developing those moderation policies? As Weinstein notes, an answer in the affirmative would likely make theirs a true First Amendment problem, with an agency like the CDC not only setting public health policy but also effectively setting guidelines for private discussion about those policies. “If it is in consultation with the government,” he says, “it’s an entirely different issue.”

Asked specifically after Weinstein’s demonetization if the “guidance” included consultation with authorities, YouTube essentially said yes, pointing to previous announcements that they consult other authorities, and adding, “When we develop our policies we consult outside experts and YouTube creators. In the case of our COVID-19 misinformation policies, it would be guidance from local and global health authorities.”

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“Dr. Fauci’s role looks like a species of generic egomania with a top hat of greed (considering his financial interests in vaccines).”

Stumbling Toward Reality (Kunstler)

Dr. Anthony Fauci, who answers to the title “The Science” in certain circles, said this week that there are going to be two Americas, the vaxed and the unvaxed. Earth to Dr. Fauci: we are already two Americas: the reality-onboard and the reality-optional. One reality is that vaccines developed at “warp speed” appear to have gnarly side-effects that can outweigh the risk of the disease they’re engineered to protect against. Another reality is that the Delta variant of SARS-Covid-19 is more contagious, but also weaker, less likely to result in hospitalization among the unvaxed. Yet another reality is that the Delta variant also infects the fully-vaccinated. Oh, what to do?

Consider not allowing yourself to be jerked around by US health officials who have trouble keeping their story straight, for instance, Dr. Anthony Fauci (a.k.a. The Science) who, records show, apparently assisted the bio-warfare division of China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) at the Wuhan lab in the development of a world-beating, gain-of-function bat virus — which, halfway through year-two of its run, seems to be following the usual trajectory of viral epidemics by growing weaker before it disappears altogether. And then we’ll see what happens longer-term among the vaxed, who were subjected to flurries of toxic spike proteins.

It’s the opinion of some — though not myself — that the Covid-19 episode was unleashed upon the world to allow “the elite” to execute a “controlled demolition of the global economy” so as to quash climate change (by reducing carbon emissions), and therefore ensure a brighter future for said elite, while cruelly throwing the rest of the world’s population overboard. Oh, I dunno…. Klaus Schwab and his minions of The Great Reset seem more like hapless control freaks than persons actually able to control anything, least of all the whole world. Dr. Fauci’s role looks like a species of generic egomania with a top hat of greed (considering his financial interests in vaccines). The reality is that the global economy, such as it’s a high-tech industrial economy, is shooting its own wad very nicely without a whole lot of assistance from alleged nefarious parties.

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Green turns sour.

Natural Resource Drain Created By “Net Zero Emission” Targets (ZH)

While the idea of implementing net zero emissions by certain deadlines has sounded great for the companies, countries and states that have set targets, the reality of making it happen is slightly more difficult. That’s what the U.K. is finding out after Natural History Museum Head of Earth Sciences Prof Richard Herrington penned a letter to the Committee on Climate Change on the vast amount of natural resources that will be necessary to make the conversion. The letter was delivered to Baroness Brown, who chairs the Adaption Sub-Committee of the Committee on Climate Change. In addition to noting that the U.K. would need a 20% increase in UK-generated electricity, the release also notes that “to meet UK electric car targets for 2050 we would need to produce just under two times the current total annual world cobalt production, nearly the entire world production of neodymium, three quarters the world’s lithium production and at least half of the world’s copper production.”

The letter reads: “The urgent need to cut CO2 emissions to secure the future of our planet is clear, but there are huge implications for our natural resources not only to produce green technologies like electric cars but keep them charged. “Over the next few decades, global supply of raw materials must drastically change to accommodate not just the UK’s transformation to a low carbon economy, but the whole world’s. Our role as scientists is to provide the evidence for how best to move towards a zero-carbon economy – society needs to understand that there is a raw material cost of going green and that both new research and investment is urgently needed for us to evaluate new ways to source these. This may include potentially considering sources much closer to where the metals are to be used.”

It then points out obvious challenges in meeting the needs of converting all cars and vans to electric vehicles, especially as it relates to cobalt: To replace all UK-based vehicles today with electric vehicles (not including the LGV and HGV fleets), assuming they use the most resource-frugal next-generation NMC 811 batteries, would take 207,900 tonnes cobalt, 264,600 tonnes of lithium carbonate (LCE), at least 7,200 tonnes of neodymium and dysprosium, in addition to 2,362,500 tonnes copper. This represents, just under two times the total annual world cobalt production, nearly the entire world production of neodymium, three quarters the world’s lithium production and at least half of the world’s copper production during 2018. Even ensuring the annual supply of electric vehicles only, from 2035 as pledged, will require the UK to annually import the equivalent of the entire annual cobalt needs of European industry.

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Strange battle going on.

Biden Aide Charges “Sabotage” Of Harris (Axios)

Top White House officials are mobilizing to defend Vice President Kamala Harris amid a gusher of leaks about dysfunction and infighting in her office. Driving the news: White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain told Axios in a statement: “The President’s trust and confidence in her is obvious when you see them in the Oval Office together.” Biden senior adviser Cedric Richmond said in an interview late Thursday night: “It’s a whisper campaign designed to sabotage her.” Their responses came after Axios approached the White House with new reporting about growing tensions between West Wing officials and the Harris team, including chief of staff Tina Flournoy.

Some White House officials have been frustrated by a series of missteps from Harris and increasingly public bickering in her orbit, which spilled out in a Politico story on Wednesday. Flournoy’s old boss, former President Bill Clinton, came to her defense with a statement calling her “an extraordinary person. 2024 is the elephant in the room. While Biden aides overwhelmingly believe he’ll be the Democratic nominee, they also know he’d be 81 when seeking re-election. An operation sometimes visibly out of sync with Biden’s — and missteps during a recent trip to the U.S.-Mexico border, following a scrutinized interview with NBC’s Lester Holt — have reignited questions from Harris’ 2020 primary bid.

Harris would be the presumptive nominee if Biden didn’t run. Administration sources believe it would be nearly impossible to unseat the first Black woman vice president. Yet many Democrats, including some current senior administration officials, are concerned she could not defeat whomever the Republican Party puts up — even if it were Donald Trump. One Democratic operative tells Axios’ Alayna Treene that most Democrats aren’t saying, “‘Oh, no, our heir apparent is f***ing up, what are we gonna do?’ It’s more that people think, ‘Oh, she’s f***ing up, maybe she shouldn’t be the heir apparent.'” Some Democrats close to the White House are increasingly concerned about Harris’s handling of high-profile issues and political tone deafness, and question her ability to maintain the coalition that Biden rode to the White House, sources tell Axios’ Hans Nichols.

Relations between the West Wing and the Vice President’s office are tense. Several administration officials used “shitshow” when describing Harris’ office, and contrast her operation with disciplined, virtually leakproof Biden aides. Some Biden officials view the Harris operation as poorly-managed and staffed with people who don’t have long-term relationships with her. They feel she’s gotten bad advice from her press and communications shop and think it’s telling that she’s already lost two advance aides and a digital director.

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“It is clear that Hunter Biden was selling access and influence. It appears that Joe Biden was aware of that effort. That is very serious.”

New Emails Raise New Allegations of Influence Peddling By Hunter Biden (Turley)

The new emails include references to the use of Air Force II by Hunter Biden to pursue the deals — a similar pattern revealed with regard to the China dealings. The emails detail a number of visits to Mexico, including a February 2016 flight on Air Force II with his father. On the plane was his business partner Jeff Cooper, who ran Illinois-based SimmonsCooper. That is one of the largest asbestos litigation firms in the country and Hunter was given 3 percent of Cooper’s venture capital firm Eudora Global, according to emails. President Biden’s brother (who featured in past controversial deals) was also reportedly involved in some of these efforts. These dealings continued into 2018 as Hunter pushed for deals with Slim. One text message from July 24, 2018 reads “Spoke to my dad about ‘Slim ask” and Cooper responds “Oh that sounds SO F’ING GOOD.”

It obviously does not sound quite so good if you are a reporter who has been repeatedly assured by President Biden that he had no knowledge or involvement in any dealings with Hunter. That was previously refuted by various sources. Hunter himself contradicted his father’s repeated denial. Then there are the emails referring to the “Big Guy”, which witnesses say was Joe Biden. Then there is Tony Bobulinski who stated that he personally met with Joe Biden to discuss Hunter’s business dealings. Bobulinski is repeatedly praised by Hunter Biden in the emails and identified as the person in control of transactions for “the family.” He has directly contradicted Joe Biden’s denial of any knowledge or involvement in his son’s dubious dealings.

The new emails contain additional information directly contradicting President Biden. In addition to earlier pictures from golf trips and references to his involvement or knowledge, new material refers to a notable dinner arranged in Washington, D.C. Hunter arranged for then Vice President Biden to have dinner on April 16, 2015 with his Ukrainian, Russian and Kazakhstani business associates. They appropriately chose a private room at Café Milano, a Georgetown restaurant that brags that it is “Where the world’s most powerful people go.” After the dinner, Hunter received an email from Vadym Pozharskyi, an executive with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma, to thank him for introducing him to his father: “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure.”

It is clear that Hunter Biden was selling access and influence. It appears that Joe Biden was aware of that effort. That is very serious. If these emails are false, this is a major story. If they are true, this is a major scandal. Presumably, however, this story will result in another run to the nearest ice cream shop for breathless coverage on the current frozen delights of the President.

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Lots of similarities between Assange coverage and that of vaccines.

Key Assange Witness Recants – With Zero Corporate Media Coverage (Fair)

A key witness in the Department of Justice’s case against Julian Assange has admitted that his entire testimony is false, a revelation that could be the death knell for US attempts to prosecute the Wikileaks founder. Sigurdur Ingi Thordarson, often known as “Siggi the Hacker,” made the confession to Icelandic outlet Stundin (6/26/21) last weekend. The article details how Thordarson, a convicted felon, pedophile and diagnosed sociopath, used his position to steal money from Wikileaks, and received immunity from prosecution from the FBI in a quid pro quo. Such a blatant and juicy piece of important news should have made worldwide headlines. But, instead, as of Friday, July 2, there has been literally zero coverage of it in corporate media; not one word in the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, NBC News, Fox News or NPR.

A search online for either “Assange” or “Thordarson” will elicit zero relevant articles from establishment sources, either US or elsewhere in the Anglosphere, even in tech-focused platforms like the Verge, Wired or Gizmodo. The other major development in the case, according to the Canary (6/30/21), is Jeremy Corbyn delivering a letter from 20 MPs to the prison where Assange is held, demanding the right to visit him and treating him as a political prisoner. The news is not some sort of esoteric knowledge known only to those carefully watching Icelandic affairs. The story trended worldwide on Twitter on the weekend, with a number of prominent accounts or figures like Wikileaks itself, Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald tweeting about it.

Not only that, Thordarson’s confession was well covered by alternative news sites with a tiny fraction of the resources establishment media have (e.g., Consortium News, 6/27/21; World Socialist Web Site, 6/27/21; Canary, 6/30/21). The story led Democracy Now!’s Monday show (6/28/21), which featured an in-depth interview with Assange’s legal advisor, Jennifer Robinson. This distinction once again highlights the gaping chasm between corporate and alternative media, suggesting that certain subjects are simply no-go zones for the former. It is not that the corporate press are completely uninterested in Assange. A number of outlets have covered the news this week that he and his partner Stella Morris are planning to get married (e.g., SBS, 6/27/21; Daily Mail, 6/28/21; Evening Standard, 6/28/21; London Times, 6/29/21). Yet none of these articles mentioned the far more consequential news about Thordarson and how it undermines the entire prosecution of Assange.

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    Julian Assange turns 50 today, in isolation   • Polymerase-specific T Cells Expand In Seronegative SARS-CoV-2 Infection (Mxiv) • Clot Death Risk
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle July 3 2021]

    #78808
    Germ
    Participant

    Must listen:

    “mRNA TECH INVENTOR ROBERT MALONE BACKS UP PROF. BYRAM BRIDLE

    https://pca.st/p8d3xu1v

    #78809
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Germ

    Must listen:

    “mRNA TECH INVENTOR ROBERT MALONE BACKS UP PROF. BYRAM BRIDLE”

    A “must listen”……..sorry man, but…
    I’m sure it is but, after 30 minutes the host had barely begun the interview……….
    …besides, I’ve been diligent in self informing about the whole mRNA gambit…and it is a gambit…

    Thanks Germ, good to see you back…

    #78812
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “But the benefits still outweigh the risks, says the Irish health body. Who are these people?”

    Where do you think we’ll be when doctors are discredited and nobody does what they say anymore? Won’t take drugs, won’t finish the round, won’t go in to get checked. …A lot more deaths than Covid. It’s a win-win. Believe us and die; discredit us and die.

    Goes to show it’s a lot easier to break things than to build them. When your plans depend only on lies, chaos and destruction, it’s certainly easy to march forward. The alternative is a culture that believes in truth, work, and the sanctity of keeping your word. And with an “or else” With shame and hardship if you don’t. Nobody wants that. They wouldn’t be able to shave a dollar off their brother…while the top shaves 10,000 dollars off of them.

    Indonesia smashed records with “high of 539 fatalities”? AYFKM? They “smashed” it alright, as it’s so close to zero in a nation of 260 million that choking on shrimp is higher. Idiocracy. Some numbers or something. You said “math” and I passed out.

    Tracking, Censoring ““dangerous lies” Like the Wuhan lab leak, or don’t go to Chinese New Year’s Parades? Those kind of “disinformation”? I swear to God every human on earth will be dead before they discredit the one running around stabbing them with scissors.

    “Vatican In Push Against Vaccine Scepticism (RT)”

    Well Christians like it now, so vaccines must be BAD then, right CNN? I mean the Pope is hateful and discredited, right, so surrely whatever he says is wrong. So why is it again that no matter who contradicts whom, all narratives are always in the same direction? Coz this?

    “Sudden Shift In COVID-19 Lab Leak Narrative ‘Mysterious’: Bret Weinstein”

    Change is not the important part. The interesting part is, how did everyone know one Tuesday in June, that “We were never at war with Estasia. We were always at war with Eurasia.” One minute everyone was banned, AMA license removed, for stating the obvious. Next minute, everyone always knew and we had always discussed it. Okay, great: who’s giving the orders? How did every CNN, NYT, BBC reporter know within 6 hours to report the opposite of yesterday?

    “former Salk Institute researcher often credited with helping develop mRNA vaccine technology, has been suspended from LinkedIn,

    Trust the doctors. Whatever doctors Chad from YouTube, an Philippine intern with no medical experience tells you to. Chad is your doctor now. He says Dr. Lexus is da bomb, not epidemiologists from Duke and Cornell, or Dr. Malone the Salk Institute. CERTAINLY not Nobel Prize winners for Iv and PCR. Only Chad, who quotes Dr. Gates and Dorsey.

    “My first wife was ‘tarded, bro. She’s a pilot now.” For British Airways.

    To reach goals “the U.K. would need a 20% increase in UK-generated electricity,”

    Not if 20% of the people die from Delta vaccines, amirite? No grid, no resources, no food, no problem! Dr. Fauci fixed everything. He’s your Daddy, and daddy always loves you.

    “Biden Aide Charges “Sabotage” Of Harris (Axios)”

    I’m not surprised since she’s a maniac and a psychopath, but the news is that the news reported it. Blackout on 100% of everything. WWIII in the black sea, Hunter’s laptop, meetings of Biden with Hunter’s setups, China saying they’re taking Taiwan and building 100 ICBMs to do it, Joe being laughed and exposed worldwide at the meeting. Nope. But Harris was mean? That’s reported. Like Cuomo’s bad pickup lines vs 20,000 murdered with the rousing support of the AMA.

    The answer of course, is to make Pelosi President. Easy-peasy. Don’t say she didn’t tell you! Just a minute ago. Did you think she was kidding? Why would she be kidding?

    Assange: The rest of us turn 50 in isolation too. In worldwide martial law and the breaking of families over politics. You’re not next: you’re already in the soup. Stop lying and admit it.

    Now let’s go do something useful. Problem is, if I make anything useful, Idiocracy will steal it.

    #78813
    zerosum
    Participant

    The WEB has Lots of Choices

    1. disinformation, dangerous lies, fiction, falsehood, deception, evasion, myth, forgery, slander, distortion, tale, inaccuracy, perjury, deceit, misrepresentation, dishonesty, fabrication, hype, indoctrination, publicity, fraud, trickery.

    2. truth · credibility, · honesty, · trustability,

    3. censorship, suppression, licensing, deletion, thought control, controlling the press, restriction, news blackout, bowdlerization, encouragement, recommendation and approval.

    4. ignore · avoid · discount · fail · forget · neglect · overlook · reject · scorn

    5. Mass-media

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    Julian Assange
    • Key Assange Witness Recants – With Zero Corporate Media Coverage (Fair)

    Hunter
    • New Emails Raise New Allegations of Influence Peddling By Hunter Biden (Turley)

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    Pass the Salt
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_dome
    A salt dome is a type of structural dome formed when a thick bed of evaporite minerals (mainly salt, or halite) found at depth intrudes vertically into surrounding rock strata, forming a diapir. It is important in petroleum geology because salt structures are impermeable and can lead to the formation of a stratigraphic trap.

    pass the salt meaning
    Forget about it, get over it and move on; stop; cease

    #78814
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Re: Delta Case Fatality Rate in UK appears 8 times higher among the fully vaccinated than the unvaccinated

    I must be getting dumber as I get older, but I can’t really make sense of this graph. In any case, I doubt it matters, since it does not include important variables such as age of cases/deaths, percentage of that cohort vaccinated/unvaccinated, how “cases” are being determined, etc etc.

    First, despite initial reports that Delta OMG!! was MORE contagious!! and MORE DEADLY and DANGEROUS! it now appears that while easier to catch, it is a milder form and less likely to kill you.

    Second, IIRC, it has been reported that the older you are, not only is the disease more dangerous, but, unfortunately, your body does not respond to the vaccine as robustly. This makes sense, right? As we get older, systems wear down and get tired, including the immune system. When prompted by a vaccine, the response in creating antibodies will be different in a 30-year-old than in someone who is 78.

    I would not be surprised if those vaccinated dying of Delta were mostly in their 70s and 80s, likely by that age with at least one comorbidity. The older you get, the more likely it is you are going to die of a disease or some failure of your body. This Is What Is Supposed To Happen. We are supposed to die of something when we get older. Yet even in this high risk group, most people, vaccinated or not, Do Not Die From Covid.

    Also, the overall numbers of deaths look pretty low to me, but again I don’t understand that graph.

    This is not some evil, high level, powers-that=be mastermind to reduce the population. It is stupidity, greed, incompetence performed at a high level of expertise. To suggest otherwise is to give these reigning idiots waaay too much credit. All you need to do is look at the actions and statements from people like Fauci, the Bidens, Pelosi, the cast of characters in all the “intelligence” agencies, the talking heads in the msm, etc.to see that clear as day.

    Combine that with the cowardice of most who have something to lose by pointing out the fact that we are being run into the ground by an idiocracy–doctors who won’t doctor, or speak out, reporters who don’t report, etc., and, while it may smell like a conspiracy, nope, just plain old insanity.

    Sure, there are plenty of coverups, that goes with the territory of greed, incompetency, stupidity–there is at least some need to cover your tracks. Although as we all get stupider, that gets easier and easier, to the point that simply ignoring the herd of elephants stomping through the room, or flipping the narrative with no further explanation, will suffice these days.

    I think one reason the vaccine effort was initially so successful is our faith in the myth of progress. It’s taken a beating, but we are still hanging on. Most people still think we have the technology to “solve” the “climate crisis” if we could only get the deplorables to understand. The deplorables believe that oil is a renewable resource. And how else explain the fawning over billionaire charlatans and their space programs and Club for the Future and living on Mars by 2030.

    Still, there are enough people growing skceptical that when along came the miracle cure from “science”–all the better never done before!–they hopped right on board. Yay! Humans are so smart! We will not lose to some nasty, evil virus! We can manipulate the building blocks of life! And if it does go a little sideways, Michael Moore can do a documentary and Hulu will make a miniseries, no problem!

    #78815
    zerosum
    Participant

    How dangerous is Delta variant?
    “The Delta variant is currently the greatest threat in the U.S. to our attempt to eliminate COVID-19,” Fauci said. The variant, first identified in India, is the most contagious yet and, among those not yet vaccinated, may trigger serious illness in more people than other variants do, he said.

    #78816
    zerosum
    Participant

    ^^^^^
    Fauci said.

    #78817
    Dave Note
    Participant

    New Emails Raise New Allegations of Influence Peddling By Hunter Biden (Turley)

    Well Turley is a smart guy and brings up many pertinent issue but the legal system is so CAPTURED top to bottom with crooked, cowardly, supine judges and ‘legalize sleaze’ lawyers that NONE of the issues Turley brings up will EVER be adjudicated in anyone’s lifetime who is reading this blog.

    Seriously, the so called ‘legal system’ is so corrupt, look at Assange’s treatment, you really think Hunter Coke-head Biden’s criminal atrocities will EVER see the light of day?

    Turley is a guy who actually still thinks he belongs to an ultimately ‘honorable profession”.

    Sophomoric naivete at best.

    “Let’s kill all the lawyers”
    William Shakespeare’s Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV, Scene 2.

    He think the ‘precision of the Law’ is like boxing under the Marquess of Queensberry Rules.

    hahahahha!

    Turley brings a gentleman’s pen knife to a frontline firefight packed with automatic weapons and RGPs.

    He should lower his pinky finger and put down his cucumber sandwich and smell the Java.

    #78818
    zerosum
    Participant

    ^^^^^^
    in India
    Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin

    #78819
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    • Bali Swept Up In Indonesia’s Harsh Lockdown Despite 71% Vaccination Rate (RT)
    “…police officers and soldiers… will also administer random coronavirus tests at checkpoints.”

    Indonesia is ahead of the totalitarian curve.
    Covid vaccinations are already mandatory, in a population almost as large as the US.

    From February:

    Indonesia to Punish Those Who Refuse to Take Covid-19 Vaccine
    Government can impose fines, stop services to those who refuse

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-18/indonesia-to-punish-those-who-refuse-to-take-covid-19-vaccine

    #78820
    zerosum
    Participant

    An influencer is someone who has:
    the power to affect the decisions of others because of his or her authority, knowledge, position, or relationship with his or her audience.
    a following in a distinct niche,
    with whom he or she actively engages.

    There is an army of paid influencers in the news media
    …. for vaccines,
    …. against Trump,
    ….. against Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin,
    …… against peace,
    ….. for war
    ….. for your income

    #78821
    Germ
    Participant

    @ VArnold

    You can go straight to the start at 14 min.

    https://pca.st/p8d3xu1v

    #78822
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    “A Case of “Intellectual Capture?” On YouTube’s Demonetization of Bret Weinstein (Taibbi)”

    In a stroke of genius, Taibbi references a scene from the original Star Trek series as a metaphor for Bret Weinstein’s attempts to interact with YouTube on the censorship of his DarkHorse channel. The scene is from “The Changeling” episode, in which the crew encounters an errant space probe of enormous power whose sole mission is the destruction of any species afflicted with imperfection. The probe wanders through the galaxy “sterilizing that which is imperfect”. In what Spock would later call “A dazzling display of logic”, Captain Kirk points out the probe’s own errors, thereby initiating the process in which it destroys itself in order to fulfill its mission.

    Sadly, since YouTube is impervious to logic, truth, or ethics, its destruction will not be so easy. Using its monopoly power, it suppresses all that it labels as “imperfect”, yet suffers no consequences for its own mistakes and errors. The problem of censorship may live on, but the destruction of Google’s monopoly power would send a chilling message to other tech giants. How can this be done? Like Brett Weinstein eventually determined: use another platform that doesn’t censor. Starve the beast. Make it so that people spit on the ground when the name YouTube or Google is mentioned.

    #78823
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    I realize that the problem of censorship is just one aspect of the global push toward a one-world authoritarian system of control, and that this whole process may need to be defeated before any progress can be made on the censorship front. My gut tells me not to expect a period of Glasnost before its eventual fall. More likely a fight to the death, à la Nazism.

    #78824
    absolute galore
    Participant

    The 3 Simple Rules That Underscore the Danger of Delta2.The variants are pummeling unvaccinated people.

    Vaccinated people are safer than ever despite the variants. But unvaccinated people are in more danger than ever because of the variants. Even though they’ll gain some protection from the immunity of others, they also tend to cluster socially and geographically, seeding outbreaks even within highly vaccinated communities.

    The U.K., where half the population is fully vaccinated, “can be a cautionary tale,” Hanage told me. Since Delta’s ascendancy, the country’s cases have increased sixfold. Long-COVID cases will likely follow. Hospitalizations have almost doubled. That’s not a sign that the vaccines are failing. It is a sign that even highly vaccinated countries host plenty of vulnerable people….

    So I’m reading this article, noting the many inconsistencies and the nothingburger aspect to the whole thing, when I make it to the very end and I see this (spoiler alert):
    The Atlantic’s COVID-19 coverage is supported by grants from the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.
    Ed Yong is a staff writer at The Atlantic, where he covers science.

    Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?
    They could at least put it at the top. That way I would not waste my time reading the damn thing looking for a smidgen of truth that might have gotten through. Crazy.

    #78825
    absolute galore
    Participant

    “Even though they’ll gain some protection from the immunit

    y of others,”

    Right. So not only are the unvaxxed responsible for the potential variants that will break through the vaccines, forcing boosters (later in the piece) but we should be thankful for the protection that we are getting from the heroes/good citizens/comrades who were vaccinated.

    Thank you, comrades! I humbly apologize for my weakness and cowardice in not submitting to the holy jab, the consecrated mRNA vaxx, gift of the mighty priesthood of Big Ph hero scientists.

    #78826
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @ absolute galore
    << Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?
    They could at least put it at the top. That way I would not waste my time reading the damn thing looking for a smidgen of truth that might have gotten through. Crazy.>>

    LMAO
    Thanks for my first good laugh of the day. 😉

    #78827
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “It’s the opinion of some — though not myself — that the Covid-19 episode was unleashed upon the world to allow “the elite” to execute a “controlled demolition of the global economy” so as to quash climate change (by reducing carbon emissions), and therefore ensure a brighter future for said elite, while cruelly throwing the rest of the world’s population overboard. Oh, I dunno…. Klaus Schwab and his minions of The Great Reset seem more like hapless control freaks than persons actually able to control anything, least of all the whole world. Dr. Fauci’s role looks like a species of generic egomania with a top hat of greed (considering his financial interests in vaccines). The reality is that the global economy, such as it’s a high-tech industrial economy, is shooting its own wad very nicely without a whole lot of assistance from alleged nefarious parties.”

    Anyone familiar with madamski’s opinions know I fully concur with the above. I am not “invested” in that opinion, btw, it’s just the sharpest cut I can get from Occam’s Razor on the matter.

    I will point out that my objection to absolute claims that TPTB are in charge of things is not based just on the idea that they prove incapable of taking charge when things are really happening. That, too, is conjectural opinion, and one set of stats will support me while another refutes me.

    My other reason for objecting to such approaches is that they form limiting bias structures within us, mini-matrices of ideation that dull Occam’s Razor. It tends to result in petty arguments:

    a) says: I don’t believe TPTB are THAT powerful
    b) replies: Well, you’re naive and ignorant.

    I see that structure repeat over and over. TPTB surely love it because it naturally divides us for them to conquer… in their dreams, anyway.

    I think it’s safe to say that just because certain wealthy rimjobs think they should and can rule the world doesn’t mean the deranged dearies can even get the thing out of park or drive in a straight line. But as we all know and agree, they’re great at making wrecks in the process of trying to win the Gran Prix in their imaginations

    #78828
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Elsewhere: the masks are coming off. No one has asked me if I’ve been vaxxed. I just walk in, breathe deep, and say, ‘Ah! Freshy unfiltered air!’

    America, remember, is much less a nation of citizens than customers. Even our leaders have to advertize to be bought by the highest bidder be it plebiscite or lobbyist.

    So when people get tired of wearing masks, shopkeepers become very wary of enforcing mask mandates.

    Anyway, I’m pretty sure such dynamics are why Oregon has rescinded all mask and social distancing mandates. Their trial run with no mask if you’re vaxxed became an instand absurdity/ambniguity festival, and died fast.

    Meanwhile, a buncha megabillionaires are soon to find their estates reduced to pennies on the dollar, and Russia maybe even preferring, even demanding, payment in rubles. Welcome to the petroruble.

    #78829
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “So an antibody test will raise an alarm: there are none! A PCR test will likely show the virus though, even though it’s dead. You can’t win. Both test results will lead to a call for a vaccine.”

    There’s another test, for the T-cells, which would indicate an immune response to earlier Covid infection.

    In the US, there’s a company that got an EUA for their T-cell test, and they currently charge $159 (not covered by insurance) for the test, plus the cost of a blood draw ($60 at one of the local labs they work with, or $140 for an in-home blood draw).

    https://www.t-detect.com/covid-19/for-patients/

    #78830
    island raider
    Participant

    Case Fatality Rates for the UK data at the top of today’s Debt Rattle:
    Unvaxed: 0.00082 or 0.082% or about 1 death per 1,200 cases
    Vaxed: 0.00247 or 0.247% or about 1 death per 450 cases
    Stay strong in your decisions. Nobody knows how this plays out, but this fall and winter are going to be very interesting. I live a US county with 70% of residents fully vaccinated. There have been less than 200 cases and zero deaths over the 18 month scare-fest.

    #78831
    absolute galore
    Participant

    How dangerous is The Fauci variant?
    “The Fauci variant is currently the greatest threat in the U.S. to our attempt to eliminate COVID-19,” Fauci said. The Fauci variant, first identified by Fauci, is the most contagious yet and, among those not yet vaccinated, may trigger serious illness in more people than other variants do, he said.

    #78832
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    “How many deaths will it take ’til he knows/that too many people have died?”

    Will be singing Blowin’ in the Wind later this afternoon at the local retirement community. Was reviewing the lyrics, making sure that they are solid. My emotions caught me a bit on that line. How many indeed?

    My friend from there asked me this last night after we had reviewed our plan for today’s performance, “Now that you see that there are practically zero problems from these vaccines will you change your position on getting the [covid] vaccine?”

    So I briefly educated him — nearly 6,000 dead according to VAERS.

    “But that is not very many when compared to all of the vaccinations?”

    I countered with: “The covid vaccines have been given out to roughly as many people as usually take the annual flu vaccine. Usually, about 40 people die each year from the flu vaccine. 40 versus 6,000 — that seems like a lot.”

    He replied: “I haven’t seen that data.”

    “No,” I said, “But I’ve seen the data. There is a lot of censorship going on.”

    #78833
    island raider
    Participant

    Math mistakes above (imprecise). Corrections below:

    Case Fatality Rates for the UK data at the top of today’s Debt Rattle:

    Unvaxed: 0.00082 or 0.082% or about 1 death per 1,219 cases
    Vaxed: 0.00247 or 0.247% or about 1 death per 400 cases

    #78834
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    Interesting read on one quite popular “Russofile” website, … commentariat part, that is. The host posed a question to his readers after a short introductory harangue. The question:

    So here is my question. There are four logical explanations of this for COVID-dissidents/anti-vaxxers:

    1. Putin, Xi, Khamenei, Maduro, Arce (and Morales!) and Diaz-Canel are all less well informed that we (COVID-dissidents/anti-vaxxers) are.
    2. Putin, Xi, Khamenei, Maduro, Arce (and Morales!) and Diaz-Canel all know the truth, but they are all lying.
    3. Putin, Xi, Khamenei, Maduro, Arce (and Morales!) and Diaz-Canel all working with the Great-Replacers and “chippers” from Davos, with the Bohemian grovers, with Bill Gates and CFR, etc. etc. etc. They all want to create a single world government, kill a few billion people and usher in the Times of the Antichrist.
    4. Don’t confuse me with facts, I got my opinion and, dammit, I am right!!!

    Question for COVID-dissidents and anti-vaxxers

    Question for COVID-dissidents and anti-vaxxers

    … and the response was/is overwhelming. Revealing. Surprising, …

    F.S .

    #78835
    a kullervo
    Participant

    But the benefits still outweigh the risks, says the Irish health body. Who are these people?

    The sentence may still be correct, though.
    The question then would be: the benefits to whom?

    #78836

    Unvaxed: 0.00082 or 0.082% or about 1 death per 1,219 cases
    Vaxed: 0.00247 or 0.247% or about 1 death per 400 cases

    Looks complicated. I see: Unvaccinated 0.08%. Fully Vaccinated 0.69%.

    #78837
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    from the glittering certitude article:

    “So before you post some absolute nonsense such as “Putin and Biden are in cahoots”

    Well, something had to fill the void left by the exit of Trump Derangement Syndrome. One day Ms. Maddow will say that Trump manipulated Putin into swindling Biden into messing up the covid response, and God will, in Hir infinite mercy, suspend all media flow except reruns of Charlie Chaplin, Harold Lloyd, and Buster Keaton. One can violate causality, even if only in languagre, so much without getting the negative attentions of the absolute powers.

    The Railrodder

    People in Portland are great enjoying being mask-free. There are maybe 2-3% still wearing them. You can see the anger in their eyes as well as the self-doubt. Major cognitive dissonance. TPTB spend an enormous amount of credibility and public goodwill to pretend they know what they’re doing and care about us more than their personal fortunes. I suspect they’ll soon wish they hadn’t spent our trust in them, little as it was, so freely.

    #78838
    Bill7
    Participant

    “..a concise comment from a fellow reader that’s a good observation regarding control of the narrative….. “Google owns YouTube. Three of Google’s five significant shareholders are BlackRock, The Vanguard Group and T. Rowe Price. The Vanguard Group is Pfizer’s highest shareholder. BlackRock is a major shareholder as well. T. Rowe Price and BlackRock are top shareholders of BioNTECH. BlackRock and Vanguard are top shareholders of Moderna. The largest shareholders of the MSM are BlackRock and Vanguard. I believe they own four of the six corporations that own the media. Big Pharma is a huge contributor of the CDC and the WHO. And let’s not get into how entwined these banks/corporations are with our “public servants” in DC.”.”

    It’s not seeming like “incompetence” to me; not when the “oopsies” inevitably benefit the same, tiny Class.

    #78839
    slimyalligator
    Participant

    Off topic please. Are Cochrane Public Health reviews legitimate? I was researching supplements to slow down cognitive impairment at the NIH’s National Center for Complementary and Integrative Medicine. Don’t ask the brain washed why. Anyhowse. Cochrane reviews pretty much systematically stated they found no convincing evidence to a variety of supplements being used for cognitive decline including fish oil which has a small positive effect on almost every physiological process I can think of. The NIH can’t do their own reviews?

    #78840
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    The problem in authoritarian regimes is that underlings have to believe the propaganda to survive. The problem with censorship is that the rulers don’t know the truth. Being detached from reality, the overlords start going off surveilling, silencing, imprisoning and then eliminating others. This never ends well.

    The Western Empire isn’t what it says it is. It isn’t democratic. It isn’t even an Empire anymore. It is corporate criminal mob looting resources, wealth and labor while it can.

    There is transmission of coronavirus from the vaccinated to the unvaccinated. A higher percentage of vaccinated die from the Delta variant than the unvaccinated. CDC ended social distancing and masking in the USA. Clearly the sole goal of the public/private partnership is to inject as many as possible, forever, with profit making mRNA jabs. Future consequences are simply unknown due to the lack of data but the side effects from the mRNA jabs are known knowns.

    Next winter will likely be crucial. The first unknown is will the new variant kill so few that a new lockdown is not needed. A second unknown is will the CIA and Washington Post trigger Watergate II to remove Joe Biden for daring to withdraw from Afghanistan throwing the USA into a Constitutional crisis. Finally will unvaccinated Deplorables are blamed for the chaos? Or will luck and money win out? Then the coronavirus pandemic will turn out to be into just another profit-making Opioid Crisis that happened to kill 15 times more Americans. Perhaps a few lawyers will be richer years from now after all the lawsuits are settled.

    All the nations of the Americas eventually will become Brazil clones; mostly poor and ill in shanty towns, the overseers in gated communities, and a few very rich living in guarded island/mountain, silo attached, mansions. Restoration of the rule of law, democracy, fraternity and equality would avoid this. China will be the main world power with Europe second if they can keep the peace and the earth doesn’t overheat.

    #78841
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Bill7 wrote: It’s not seeming like “incompetence” to me; not when the “oopsies” inevitably benefit the same, tiny Class.

    “Incompetence, greed, stupidity.” That would be the greed part, undeniably a big part. And often run by people way less stupid than, say, your average politician. But ultimately, considering where all this is going, quite incompetent. Think of it as them being too smart for their own good–and, unfortunately, almost everybody elses. We will all be the beneficiaries of the mess as this house of joker cards continues to come apart.

    #78842
    Bill7
    Participant

    absolute galore said: “..This is not some evil, high level, powers-that=be mastermind to reduce the population. It is stupidity, greed, incompetence performed at a high level of expertise. To suggest otherwise is to give these reigning idiots waaay too much credit..”

    “reigning idiots”, eh. Who’s winning?

    Mmm / pass, big-time.

    B7

    #78843
    Bill7
    Participant

    “Oopsie, oopsie, oopsie!”: the “reigning idiots” somehow got around a third of the US citizenry to be injected
    with an experimental substance, the long-term effects of which are unknown; mostly shut down the world’s economy, immiserating primarily the working Class (“oopsie”!); enforced the wearing of useless-minus masks;
    shut down churches and other solidarity-based community orgs, but allowed liquour stores and casinos to remain open (“oopsie”!).. ratcheted-up idPol, “wokeness”, and claims of whiteness-based “domestic terrorism”
    (i.e., anyone who doesn’t go along with the neofascist program is scheduled for elimination, by various means..) “oopsie!”..

    Yes, clear evidence of “incompetence” and “stupidity”, right?

    /s

    #78844
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Gee, now that you put it like that, I guess it was all planned out.

    Just kidding!

    I’m sticking with my position in this here thread.

    The vaccines are not an evil conspiracy, They represent the hubris found throughout the United States’ professional classes. They would have been 2nd or 3rd rate at some point, but they’ve hoisted themselves up on their mediocrity and lack of morals and are now “in charge.” Hang on while these clowns take us down another few steps on the stairway of decline. The less stupid ones have getaways in New Zealand or wherever, but quite a few of them will probably feel the heat at some point.

    #78845
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Yes, they got a buncha people vaxxed via scammery. Made a bvuncha quick money, opened new patent avenues for further get rich scammery, took social monitoring/indoctrination to whole new levels. So did the Nazis. They reveled for awhile in their power but soon met mounting despair. A few lucky stiffs made it to Argentina and a very secluded life shrouded in contant fear of discovery.

    TPTB have won a few major battles. So did the Nazis. So did Japan. We have yet to see how our modern medical neo-nazis will get out of this venture. Poorly, I suspect, and with a much shorter run than the Nazis or the Nipponese.

    If what the powers that be are doing passes as long-term strategic winning, the standards of success have dropped below those for failure. If one believes that a temporary experience of wealth and power and glory and lust fulfillment via sadism and deceit are winning, I’d like to introduce you to a much simpler, easier, safer and less expensive mode of feeling godlike bliss: heroin. Works like a charm. JUst ask my favorite fictional junkie, Fontaine (altho iirc, Whoopi was a genuine junkie before cleaning up and becoming a star)

    Fontaine Sings the National Anthem

    The view from 30k’ altitude looks great until you run out of fuel.

    But, see, we as a culture worship evil as the greater power in reality rather than merely exercise our own power. We waste our energy screaming about TPTB, knowing it will do no fundamental good (well, has it? gimme some proof), rather than make or find some goodness and point everyone we meet in that direction.

    The fools we let lead us can’t build only destroy. With them as our models, we naturally believe that we must first destroy evil before we can build and grow good. So we commit evil against evil, or at least talk smack against it, rather than get on with just doing the good.

    Robespierre and his pals felt they were doing the right thing too. They thought they were revolutionaries when they were merely reactionaries, reacting against the king rather than for themselves. Result: maniacally murderous selfishness. One becomes what one fights against just as one becomes what one fights for.

    Can’t serve two masters… but then, the ego of certitude serves only itself. Certitude… didn’t I read that today?

    ick

    WHile megabillionaires and major nations are powerful fucking titans, alright, there is a vast difference between the Clash of the Titans and the CRash of the Titanic.

    #78846
    island raider
    Participant

    Very glad to have you here again, madamski!

    #78847
    Archie
    Participant

    @Bill7 and Mr House

    Thank you both for your inputs and observations. I tend to agree with most of them and the links you both provide at times may be provocative, but they seem well reasoned to me. And that makes them very meaningful to me because they inform my inner wisdom. And that reinforces the principles that I embrace internally and that makes me feel at peace. Knowledge is power, the movement comes after.

    ps: I also appreciate the non-proselytizing nature of your posts. I prefer being pursuaded, rather than talked down to.

    #78848
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    Very serious black fungal disease occurring in recovering COVID patients thought to be related to steroids used in COVID treatment.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57217246
    Fungal diseases are very difficult to treat. Antifungal resistance is a huge issue. As is the case with antibiotics, excessive use of antifungals in agriculture is a primary driver of this resistance.

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