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Salvador Dali Elephants 1948

 

Dr Reveals Stunning Truth About Covid Vaccine (RAV)
Simply Put: **** YOU (Denninger)
Moderna Knows Their Vaccine Has Caused Over 300,000 Injuries, Hides Info (DE)
No Test, Just Get Vax Card (RAV)
We Have ‘Leaky Vaccines’ (RAV)
Why Are Regulatory Agencies Hiding COVID Vaccine Safety Signals? (CHD)
There’s An Alternative And Ethical Strategy To The Jab (RAV)
What’s The Best Way To Top Up Our Immunity? (BBC)
Why Testing COVID Immunity is as Important as Vaccination (WA)
Bill Gates Has Major Shares In Pfizer, BioNTech, Is Primary Funder Of MHRA (DE)
Police Say Melbourne Anti-lockdown Protest ‘Most Violent In Nearly 20 Years’ (G.)

 

 

 

 

Karl Denninger, from his comments section:

There are two mechanisms for ADE, both related but distinct. The first is where the antibodies simply are all binding either due to mutational mismatch or simply the nature of the virus in question. This was what derailed attempts to produce both RSV and coronavirus vaccines in the past, and has bedeviled attempts at Dengue as well. The reason the vax makers used only the “S” protein was their BELIEF that this would evade the problem. They had no proof of that and in fact scant animal and in-vitro evidence, but that’s what they went with and then looked for signals in the (short) trials. That part looked good at the time.

But there’s a second, nasty way that ADE happens. As antibody titers wane they may not do so evenly. Mutational mismatch makes this dangerous because the neutralizing portion may wane faster than the binding portion. At some point there’s enough binding antibody remaining that you get ****ed because the neutralizing titer is too low to help, but the binding enhances the infection. This is almost as bad as the first form but it’s very hard to detect without extensive trials over time against the wild virus, and challenge trials in humans are never approved because if you do them and get hit with this you will kill a huge percentage of the subjects, thus you’ll never get ethical approval to do them.

There is ANECDOTAL evidence that this is showing up RIGHT NOW in a small percentage of people who got jabbed. It’s not conclusive but the signal is there, and it’s alarming as Hell. Figuring out WHO is in that bucket and potentially at risk, and whether there is stratification we can predictively use, had better be done — FAST — because there are over 150 million Americans who are potentially at risk of this happening to them.

 

 

Yes, good question:

What happens when the FDA approves Pfizer on Monday? Is that the end for all the other vaccines?

A series of short clips of Robert Malone on Bannon’s show.

Dr Reveals Stunning Truth About Covid Vaccine (RAV)

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“If it turns out that said person did in fact build a proper immune response then these cases are either OAS or ADE-enhanced disease..”

Simply Put: **** YOU (Denninger)

I believed I might have had Covid-19 in January of 2020, even though I tested negative for antibodies several months later. As it turns out my later antibody testing (negative) was correct and not a defective test; whatever I had in January of 2020 it was not Covid-19. But now having had Covid-19 (almost-certainly Delta too) and knowing damn well it was Covid-19, and surviving it, it is a clearly-distinct infection that I could not possibly mistake for anything else. Having had the infection and now having found IgG antibodies by test I am now known robustly immune to any and all variants; the immunity built from natural infection is conserved across the various epitopes of the virus in all cases because the “N” portion of the virus, which has to remain more-or-less intact for it to be able to be a virus, forms the backbone and bulk of the immune response built following natural infection.

This is not true for any of the vaccines, it was a critical error in what we did and it is why we are now seeing escape. It is not breakthrough folks, it is escape due to mismatch between the coded antibodies and circulating virus and it will both continue and accelerate as the match inexorably continues to degrade between what circulates and the original “wild type” out of Wuhan, which is what’s coded in ALL the jabs and which is long extinct. What’s worse is that if OAS or ADE really come out to play on top of it then if you have not been naturally infected and have been jabbed you are in for a world of **** if you get challenged by the virus in the wild. Even very, very small enhancement percentages from ADE-style reactions can completely overwhelm any sort of treatment possibility at all.

We do not yet know if this is happening as we are deliberately not autopsying and investigating cases where someone was vaccinated, got infected anyway and then rapidly crashed going from being moderately ill to in an ICU or dead within 72 hours. There are multiple reports of this happening already. If this was someone who had a defective immune response then that’s very unfortunate but it does happen. We had damned well better prove that, however, and we’re not going the pathology work to do so. If it turns out that said person did in fact build a proper immune response then these cases are either OAS or ADE-enhanced disease and while this outcome is clearly not universal in those who got jabbed if it is happening even once in a while we had better figure it out right ****ing now or there is going to be a pile of dead bodies this fall and winter and it will be the direct responsibility of those who advocated for and in fact are trying to, in many cases, FORCE mass-jabbing of the population that caused it.

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They have a special service to do it for them.

Moderna Knows Their Vaccine Has Caused Over 300,000 Injuries, Hides Info (DE)

A leaked report from Moderna’s data collection company reveals that the Moderna Covid-19 vaccines have caused upwards of 300,000 vaccine injuries in a three-month time span – dwarfing the number of vaccine injuries Moderna actually reported to VAERS in that time frame. Moderna is new to the vaccine industry, and they are part of a global effort to introduce new mRNA spike protein replication technology to the field of vaccination. The company is also new to the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS), a government reporting database that collects incidences of vaccine injury and death. The CDC and the FDA manage VAERS and are well aware of the widespread injuries and deaths caused by these vaccines.


VAERS is required to make these injuries public each and every week, even as the medical establishment continues to yawn and turn the other way. The VAERS database has published hundreds of thousands of vaccine injury reports in 2021, but the CDC and the FDA haven’t done anything significant to address the wide-scale medical malpractice and wrongful death perpetuated by this experimental gene gtherapy. The CDC and the FDA refuse to take the vaccines off the market, and only warn young adults that the vaccines “rarely” cause heart problems, anaphylactic shock, and blood clots. Moderna is legally required to forward all vaccine injury reports directly to VAERS, but they apparently aren’t doing their part and are concealing massive amounts of vaccine injury data.

If this data was shared in a timely and transparent manner, it would further corroborate the numerous, wide-scale injuries already being reported to VAERS. According to the most recent data from VAERS, Moderna has only reported 110,500 adverse events reports from January through March for their SpikeVax COVID-19 vaccine. Most of these injuries occurred in the United States. VAERS also reports another 78,000 reports of vaccine injury from SpikeVax from April through June, with 71,400 of those injuries coming from the United States. Of these 188,500 vaccine injuries reported to VAERS, Moderna themselves only reported a fraction of them. Most of the reports came from patients, physicians, and other health care providers, who documented the adverse events in a medical report filed with VAERS.


Most shocking yet, a data collection service that works for Moderna sent out an internal memo highlighting up to 300,000 adverse events that occurred in a three-month span in 2021. Moderna’s data collection company is called IQVIA. This company helps drug-makers manage clinical trials. IQVIA employs 74,000 people and grossed $ 11 billion in sales last year. The company’s President for Research and Development Solutions sent out a Quarter Two update that was labeled “Confidential – for internal distribution only.” The report includes upwards of 300,000 incidences of vaccine injury reported directly from injured consumers. The memo states that IQVIA applied more than 12 automation’s to drive greater efficiencies and quality “to ensure regulatory compliance for the Moderna pharmacovigilance program.”

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Homer the pathologist.

No Test, Just Get Vax Card (RAV)

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And leaky vessels.

We Have ‘Leaky Vaccines’ (RAV)

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“..more and more people recognize that the premise that vaccine adverse events are “one in a million” is an utter fiction.”

Why Are Regulatory Agencies Hiding COVID Vaccine Safety Signals? (CHD)

A few months before the first COVID-19 vaccines received Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) in late 2020, a global vaccine safety expert cautioned the rushed circumstances made it essential to “get [safety monitoring] right” by “intensively” and “robustly” scrutinizing adverse events following the experimental rollout. As this expert stated, “Deploying any new vaccine based on data from expedited clinical trials into a population without a functioning safety monitoring system in place is reckless and irresponsible given the tools that are available.” Moreover, she added, any investments needed to beef up safety monitoring would be “inexpensive in comparison” to the massive funding allocated to COVID-19 vaccine development and scale-up.

In theory, the U.S. has had a national vaccine safety monitoring system in place since 1990 — the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) — intended to function as an “early warning system.” VAERS and its U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) counterpart FAERS (FDA Adverse Event Reporting System) constitute the principal data sources that regulators rely on when pulling drugs or vaccines from the market for safety reasons. Not only has VAERS never lived up to its promise, but there can be little doubt its glaring failures are largely, and malignantly, by design.

For example, when a government-commissioned study highlighted VAERS inadequacies in 2010 — estimating more than 99% of vaccine adverse reactions were going unreported and that one of every 39 doses of vaccine administered was linked to adverse events corroborated in vaccine package inserts — the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) simply shut the project down. Now, in less than a year, more than half a million reports of injuries have flooded into VAERS following experimental COVID jabs, including thousands of deaths. Yet a deafening regulatory silence has greeted this record-setting volume of adverse reactions, which accounts for nearly a third of all reports accumulated by VAERS over its entire three-decade lifespan.

Statistical tricks (and conflicts of interest) are not new to the vaccine or pharmaceutical industries, which have used them for decades to successfully mask the “chasm between vaccine rhetoric and reality.” Even when drug warning systems seem to “work,” the lag time between reports of harm and regulatory action is, on average, 20 years. In that light — with FDA speeding toward full approval of the Pfizer injection, Moderna gaining fast-track designation to test other experimental mRNA vaccines in children and adults and CDC benignly maintaining that the results of COVID vaccine safety monitoring are “reassuring” — it is not hard to be discouraged about the agencies’ continued ability to get away with misusing and abusing safety data from VAERS and other sources.

However, the safety narrative started imploding in a big way in late 2019, when the world’s top vaccine experts gathered at the World Health Organization and admitted, almost to a person, that vaccines are sometimes fatal and that safety monitoring is failing to capture the dangers. COVID may have provided these worried experts with a temporary and convenient reprieve, but more and more people recognize that the premise that vaccine adverse events are “one in a million” is an utter fiction. With injuries from COVID vaccines occurring on an unprecedented scale — and credible doctors and scientists issuing urgent warnings about short-term and longer-term damage — it may become increasingly difficult for the vaccine establishment to shove its problems under the statistical carpet.

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IVM.

There’s An Alternative And Ethical Strategy To The Jab (RAV)

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The BBC can’t say “Stop Mass Vaccination”. So they try a way around it. And get lost.

What’s The Best Way To Top Up Our Immunity? (BBC)

There are marked differences in your immune system after a natural infection with coronavirus and after vaccination. Which is better? Even asking the question bordered on heresy a year ago, when catching Covid for the first time could be deadly, especially for the elderly or people already in poor health. Now, we’re no longer starting with zero immunity as the overwhelming majority of people have either been vaccinated or have already caught the virus. It is now a serious question that has implications for whether children should ever be vaccinated. And whether we use the virus or booster shots to top up immunity in adults. Both have become contentious issues. “We could be digging ourselves into a hole, for a very long time, where we think we can only keep Covid away by boosting every year,” Prof Eleanor Riley, an immunologist from the University of Edinburgh, told me.

Prof Adam Finn, a government vaccine adviser, said over-vaccinating people, when other parts of the world had none, was “a bit insane, it’s not just inequitable, it’s stupid”. We need to understand a little bit about the key building blocks of both our immune system and the virus it is attacking. The power-couple of the immune system that clears the body of infection are antibodies and T-cells. Antibodies stick to the surface of the virus and mark it for destruction. T-cells can spot which of our own cells have been hijacked by the virus and destroy them. For all the trouble the virus has caused, it is spectacularly simple. It has the famous spike protein, which is the key it uses to unlock the doorway into our body’s cells. And 28 other proteins that it needs to hijack our cells and make thousands of copies of itself. (For comparison it takes about 20,000 proteins to run the human body).

[..] There is clear evidence that adults who have not had any vaccine dose will have stronger immune defences if they do get vaccinated, even if they have caught Covid before. But there are two big questions: 1/ do vaccinated adults need to be boosted, or is exposure to the virus enough? 2/ do children need vaccinating at all, or does a lifetime of encountering build a good immune defence? The idea of regularly topping up immunity throughout life is not radical in other infections, such as RSV (respiratory syncytial virus) or the four other coronaviruses that infect people and cause common cold symptoms. Each time you’re exposed, the immune system gets a little bit stronger, and this continues until old age, when the immune system starts to fail and the infections become a problem again.

“This isn’t proven, but it could be a lot cheaper and simpler to let that happen than spend the whole time immunising people,” said Prof Finn, who warns we could end up “locked into a cycle of boosting” without seeing if it was necessary. However, he said the argument in children had “already been won” as “40-50% have already been infected and most weren’t ill or particularly ill”. There are counter-arguments. Prof Riley points to long-Covid in children, and Prof Openshaw to nervousness around the long-term effects of a virus that can affect many of the body’s organs. But Prof Riley said there was potential in using vaccines to “take the edge off” Covid, followed by infection, to broaden the immune response.

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“..we’re not testing antibodies, because they’re worried that a substantial number of people are going to find out that the vaccine didn’t work for them.” – Dr. Holman Noorchashm”

Why Testing COVID Immunity is as Important as Vaccination (WA)

Antibody testing is the gold standard for determining immunity, says immunologist and physician, Dr. Hooman Norchashm. Yet, the CDC and FDA are actively deterring people from testing their immunity. Why? Dr. Noorchashm suggests that the answer to this could lie partly in the phenomena of vaccine spoilage. “It’s a medicine, just like any other medicine. It’s got a failure rate…, and we should accept that.” “They’re worried that a substantial number of people are not going to find out that the vaccine didn’t work for them.” Currently, the delta variant of COVID-19 is being used by the Government to explain the high occurrence of breakthrough infections. However, Dr. Noorchashm suggests, vaccine spoilage is a more likely explanation. While a strong believer in vaccination, Dr. Noorchashm argues that determining individual immunity rather than blanket vaccination is the ‘Achilles heel’ to overcoming COVID-19.

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Owning shares is one thing, but funding the goverment?!

Bill Gates Has Major Shares In Pfizer, BioNTech, Is Primary Funder Of MHRA (DE)

An investigation has revealed that the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation are the primary funders of the UK’s Medicine & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency, and that the Foundation also owns major shares in both Pfizer and BioNTech. The Medicine & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) extended the emergency authorisation of the Pfizer / BioNTech mRNA jab in the UK to allow it to be given to children between the ages of 12 – 15 on the 4th June 2021. At the time, the Chief Executive of the MHRA, Dr June Raine said the MHRA had “carefully reviewed clinical trial data in children aged 12 to 15 years and have concluded that the Pfizer vaccine is safe and effective in this age group and that the benefits outweigh any risk”.

We are left wondering if Dr June Raine and the MHRA have even read the results of the extremely short and small study. If they have then they would have seen that 86% of children in the study suffered an adverse reaction ranging from mild to extremely serious. Just 1,127 children took part of the trial, however only 1,097 children completed the trial, with 30 of them not participating after being given the first dose of the Pfizer jab. The results do not state why the 30 children did not go on to complete the trial. The information is publicly available and contained within an FDA fact sheet which can be viewed here (see page 25, table 5 on-wards).

There was never any doubt that the MHRA would give emergency authorisation for the Pfizer / BioNTech vaccine to be used in children when you consider that a certain Mr Bill Gates owns shares in both Pfizer and BioNTech and is the primary funder of the MHRA. The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation bought shares in Pfizer back in 2002, and back in September 2020 Bill Gates ensured the value of his shares went up by announcing to the mainstream media in a CNBC interview that he viewed the Pfizer jab as the leader in the Covid-19 vaccine race.

“The only vaccine that, if everything went perfectly, might seek the emergency use license by the end of October, would be Pfizer.” The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation also “coincidentally” bought $55 million worth of shares in BioNTech in September 2019, just before the alleged Covid-19 pandemic struck. The MHRA received a grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation in 2017 to the tune of £980,000 for a “collaboration” with the foundation. However, a Freedom of Information request which the MHRA responded to in May 2021 revealed that the current level of grant funding received from the Gates Foundation amounts to $3 million and covers “a number of projects”.

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“They don’t care about their freedom, they’re just looking for trouble…”

Police Say Melbourne Anti-lockdown Protest ‘Most Violent In Nearly 20 Years’ (G.)

An anti-lockdown protest held in Melbourne on Saturday was one of the most violent the city has seen in 20 years, Victoria’s top police officer says. Chief commissioner Shane Patton said his officers had no choice but to use non-lethal weapons to defend themselves from an angry mob that came armed and appeared intent on attacking them. It is the first time during a lockdown protest, police have used such tactics that included rounds of pepper spray projectiles and canisters. At least nine officers ended up in hospital after being pelted with projectiles, punched and kicked by some members of a 4,000 strong crowd who turned out to protest the city’s Covid-19 lockdown. The mostly unmasked protesters let off flares, yelled slogans and blasted music as they moved through the CBD.

More than 700 extra Victorian police officers were deployed to contain the lockdown protest. Patton said he was nothing short of disgusted with the conduct of some in the crowd. “What we saw yesterday … was probably one of the most violent protests we’ve seen in nearly 20 years,” he told reporters on Sunday. More than 200 people were arrested including some on remand for previous crimes. At least 19 will be taken to court rather than issued with fines in excess of $5,000. Two people will face assault charges. He said many in the crowd came armed with projectiles that were hurled at police and it was clear they were there not to protest for personal freedom but to “confront and attack”.

[..] “I just hope it doesn’t result in the mass spread of Covid-19. The risk that those people have now posed to the rest of the community, by their conduct yesterday, was disgraceful and selfish.” Patton also revealed 48 people have been fined almost $5,500 each over an illegal engagement party in Caulfield North, including the future bride and groom. That number is expected to rise with eight other attendees yet to be interviewed. The rest of the people at that party were children. They’ve been warned and won’t receive fines..

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    Salvador Dali Elephants 1948   • Dr Reveals Stunning Truth About Covid Vaccine (RAV) • Simply Put: **** YOU (Denninger) • Moderna Knows Their Vac
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 22 2021]

    #84912
    V. Arnold
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    LOL Calvin got it exactly correct…

    #84914
    Django
    Participant

    The Ministry of Health (MiniHealth in Newspeak) which made the citizens sick. Winston Smith had it easy.

    #84915
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Ah Afghanistan…another rounding error:

    “BofA strategist Michael Hartnett wrote that in the past 18 months “the Fed has bought $4 trillion bonds, twice the amount the US spent on War in Afghanistan past 20 years as it, and other global central banks, have spent $834 million every hour buying bonds since COVID.”

    Even the cost of war is nothing compared to bank bailouts and rocketing that income disparity FROM the working TO the unworking paper-owners.

    So we’re at what, $5 Trillion in budgets? Who can keep up? The Fed system can solve any problem except those caused by too much money. When that breaks is anybody’s guess, but we’re going to get another chance to measure the psychology of it. Since they know, the only logical thing to do is to at least take out the inevitable in your own time. Smith says distribution of stocks has largely occurred from the insiders to the muppets. Corrupt regulator and now insider Gary Gensler, who insured at the very least enforcing the LAW would never be an obstacle to insider-trading pyramid schemes, was just on the trading hour pointing out his red socks. Red socks? Red BEAR socks. So when they take it down, he/they can say “Don’t sue us, we gave you every possible warning, even on national TV. Not our fault.

    He should fashion-coordinate with that other sock puppet, Justin. Remember Biden’s socks? Not making this up.

    Like the terrible timing of Biden speeches, the Wikileaks drop is all coordinated. With the audit, and elsewhere. Has to be. Can’t have 12 parts all moving in unison, first delayed, then released in harmony, all on accident. And the visible purpose is all the same as well: discredit the Federal level, crash the currency.

    Moderna: Well the NTSB allows Tesla to go out there and kill new innocent people every day, generally by driving around until they can find a police or fire truck to slam into, and that’s unbelievably obvious, so why would we expect a hazy, unclear data from VAERS and FDA to do anything? Talk about Reagan “deregulation”? Nothing’s been regulated almost in my whole lifetime, and not because they’re canceled or repealed. I’m still paying BUCKETS for them, with more laws than ever. Instead, the regulators, SEC, FBI, FDA has been right there the whole time, but PROTECTING the fraud and death. 100,000 felonies in MERS? Banks all embezzled, regulated, then shotgun-merged instead? Worse, then the muppets trade, buy, etc BELIEVING they are safe, protected and regulated and don’t need to look out for themselves. It’s glorious, could not be a system more conducive to death, fraud, and theft, and the ensuing destructing of the culture. Even if you just say “This ain’t regulated: you’re on your own” like in Crypto or health supplements, would be a step up from here.

    So to me it’s a given that if Moderna and the FDA — or indeed anybody else – are in the room, then whatever they decide or release has nothing to do with safety but with profits and agendas. Apparently nothing can cure this belief in people, not billions in fines, losing their pensions, their kids disappearing, not thousands of drug deaths a year, not their own maiming: NOTHING. No wonder they don’t respect us; why should they?

    “vaccinating people, when other parts of the world had none,”

    This is popping up all over, and is a new seeded narrative. Maybe they realize if all N.A. and E.U. are dead, that makes all non-Western places dangerously stronger. So they need to take out Africa, S. America, Asia, etc. Not sure. They never cared about anybody else before, so what’s the rush?

    Also Joe has “500 million doses”. Really that bad at math? There are 330M Americans. Half took it, that’s 160M. So 400M doses are suddenly desperately important, 4x the population? Two things: one, they’re going to force them on Africa, which is safer than NY, NJ, and Delaware, and has been all along. I’m safer in the gutters of Calcutta. Two, they put 10 extra lines on your vaccine passport (weren’t those a conspiracy?) for a reason.

    I don’t know what it takes for you to believe the chicken crossed the road.

    Also in “The Narrative”, why suddenly Pfizer? Astra not deadly enough?

    Police Say Melbourne Anti-lockdown Protest ‘Most Violent In Nearly 20 Years’” police said between beating unarmed citizens. “Say whut! Where’d all this violence come from? A Bobby said while clubbing a Shelia and trampling children with horses, “This violence must stop!”

    Well, seems like it’ll be over soon, with “soon” in quotes: months yet. Seems pretty likely the White Hats have an all-forces attack going on now, starting with F-Stan of course, but from every side, too many to defend, almost too many to name: Ghislane, Wikileaks, McAfee, vaccines, Crypto, Wall St, bond market, China, hostages, sinking ships, censures from Parliament, disappearing VPs, rising prices, universal shortages, new email leaks, everywhere. But that’s what happens at the end battles.

    Again, problem here is the world is going to change radically and not predictably. If “the center does not hold” WGAF? The center never did anything except screw me anyway. But re-localizing, erasing the currency not of one nation, but the whole world, has never been tried before and nobody really knows what will happen. Certainly all supplies will be cut off and disrupted for many months, although perhaps not as bad as a blink-collapse in ’01 or ’08.

    #84916
    those darned kids
    Participant

    “hateful to me as the gates of hades is that man who hides one thing in his heart and speaks another.” ~ homer, the iliad

    “i’m normally not a praying man, but if you’re up there, please save me, superman.” ― homer simpson

    #84918

    southoz

    #84920
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    It’s all going smoothly and according to plan, I’m sure.

    Zylon-V has an efficacy of 39% which is better than 50% and so gets EUA and on Monday, full approval, because otherwise Bill might lose some money.

    Face masks don’t stop people from getting infected according to the Daily Mail.

    Now it seems that lockdowns aren’t good for your health because they could lead to you getting a rubber bullet in the eye.

    #84921
    those darned kids
    Participant

    raúl: the above “south australia” info startled me so, so i looked for it. it is from last year, not that i imagine anything has changed.

    Tue 25 Aug 2020

    from the same article:

    What about the Northern Territory?

    The NT’s emergency declaration ends on September 24 but it can be repeatedly extended for 90-day periods.

    The Health Minister, Natasha Fyles, recently warned the strict border restrictions could be in place for years.

    Authorised officers can use whatever force is necessary to:

    Remove someone from somewhere
    Prevent someone from entering a place
    Search for and seize anything related to public health
    Examine and remove documents relating to the health emergency
    What’s more, they can do it at any time of day and without notice or a warrant.

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    are these really freedoms worth being hated for?

    #84922
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Looks as if we were set up as a penal colony to allow the extraction of resource wealth for the aristocrats until no longer necessary. It really sucks to be Australian.

    #84923
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Of the 2.2 trillion dollars wasted on the Afghanistan clusterfuck, approx 500 billion was spent on interest servicing the debt to merely finance the operation.

    So about 1/4 of the total expenditure went to bankers.

    So they spread the love around.

    The parasitic weasels of the MIC used Afghanistan for a live fire training exercise for 20 years. They ‘sharpened the sword’ of U.S. imperialism on it and gave the CIA full control of the opium racket.

    Someone speculated that the CIA no longer needs the heroin trade now that Fentanyl and other synthetic opioids can kill the US poor and working class so much more effectively.

    Poppies are so 20th century.

    An Afghanistan is so 12th century.

    Next stop?

    Buy a clue from Australia and impose a military occupation and dictatorship on your own country, it saves on travel time.

    .

    https://blog.tempemail.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/How-Victoria%E2%80%99s-Covid-lockdown-protests-are-galvanising-Australias-right.jpg

    #84925
    Germ
    Participant

    Earlier today, I bumped into a GP (UK General Prectitionar, doctor) friend in a local store. “Are you still taking IVM?” he asked. When I said Yes, he just laughed and said “Why? It doesn’t do anything.” Now, he’s actually a very smart guy who happens to be a GP trainer, who works with new students just out of medical school.

    Rather than get into a conversation with him I sent him this when I got home:

    “Prof. Santin, one of the pioneers in the use of hyperimmune plasma for Covid 19 patients, Director of the Yale University Research Center in the USA – is promoting the use of ivermectin -” I am convinced that ivermectin can really be a game changer in the fight against Covid19. The world literature is demonstrating the efficacy and safety of this drug at all stages of infection – I have witnessed first-hand very rapid responses after ivermectin administration both in Long Covid patients who have not been breathing well for months, and in extremely severe patients during the acute phase who were on oxygen and close to intubation. This evidence convinced me to quickly change my mind.
    https://www.costadelsolfm.org/2021/07/14/alessandro-santin-director-del-centro-de-investigacion-de-la-universidad-de-yale-en-eeuu-habla-sobre-la-ivermectina/

    Here was his immediate reply:

    “I really don’t want a back and forth with this. I liked our non-COVID interactions more. I’ll delete anything you send that has to do with this if you can’t respect this request.”

    Where’s the intellectual curiosity? Why wouldn’t he email Prof. Santin directly himself and ask him what is the “world literature is demonstrating the efficacy and safety of this drug at all stages of infection”?

    And this is when we have a mutual friend who’s been double jabbed, and is currently sick at home with Covid, and who has received zero medical advice from his own GP. UK advice is to stay home ’till you get so sick that if your lips turn bluethen call an ambulance

    It’s all just beyond comprehension.

    #84926
    Germ
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    Germ
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    #84928
    Germ
    Participant

    Oops!

    #84929
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    It’s all just beyond comprehension.

    And yet anybody who doesn’t support it is “wow, so crazy”. (And it was the doctor who initiated that entire exchange, I would hasten to point out.) We are truly in the Twilight Zone, and I’m at a loss to comprehend if there will be any exit from it.

    #84930
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    My ad hoc solution is to have as little interaction as possible with coronapansies.

    #84931
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @Germ

    The Covid Fairytale is a perfect match for the Salem Witch Hysteria.

    Same psychotic underpinning, same societal trance.

    Your GP doctor friend should have his license yanked for intentional malicious willful ignorance.

    He is guilty of crimes against humanity, he has no business ‘practicing medicine’.

    And I mean that literally, he is merely practicing medicine, like a child practices piano lessons.

    #84933
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    There may or may not be organized control structures above the World Economic Forum, directing and coordinating its activities for purposes that are not fully expressed in the published goals and purposes of that august owners club that is explicitly owned and operated by the 1000 richest entities in the world. It would be highly irrational not to at least observe and consider the possibility. Like the old saying goes, everybody has got a boss.

    In the final analysis, though, that probability does not really matter, because the most serious ( fatal, actually) flaw is built right into the organization as it presents itself. It’s not a secret. It’s published and common knowledge, right there in the open for all to see . . . or NOT to see, as the case may be. Because the flaw isn’t based on something or anything that the WEF has. It’s what the WEF does not have.

    It does not have checks and balances. It’s a monopoly, so to speak, which has no competitor of roughly equal power to prevent it from simply doing whatever it wants . . . with no way to reign it in if it decides that it wants everything.

    That management part of the World Economic Forum, that part which gives orders to its subordinate parts, consists solely and only of its owners . . . the aforementioned 1000 richest entities in the world. Nothing wrong with that, right ?

    Well, yes, actually. There is something wrong with that. It’s called detente, balance of power, “checks and balances”, fairness, equality and a host of other more or less inadequate attempts to label a concept that is fundamental to existance. For every force there is an equal and opposite force.

    In other words, if the forces which control the actions of the WEF consist only of those who represent financial power , then that power is unchecked by the other forces which are necessary to survival.

    These other forces have no authoritative role in the WEF’s executive management, and even the toothless “advisory” roles parcelled out to a chosen few are limited to those who are “invited” to it by the financial powers who select them.

    I should not have to point out the liklihood of anyone being selected who wants to say something that the WEF ownership sincerely and earnestly doesn’t like.

    Also, that there are types of power other than financial which are harder to see or measure but are every bit as vitally necessary to life as money. Perhaps more. Money may make the world go around, but it most definitely does NOT make the world.

    Not only can money not buy you love, it can’t even rent the truth, justice , freedom and life that make life worth loving.

    Is there, then, a way for the forces of love and truth and justice to get a seat on the board ? Nope. The WEF Board decides who gets to sit on the board, and they are financial power.

    It’s a conundrum, isn’t it? A dilemma. Catch 22.

    In which case there is one and only one way to fix it.

    You have to start telling the truth.

    Not all at once, mind you. That might be impossible, and way too dangerous in any case. No, all I’m saying is that you have to start telling the truth. Tell some, and then tell a bit more, and then even more. No need to shoot anybody (I hope) , just keep looking and telling.

    You will know when you have told ENOUGH truth when the combined force of that truth, love, justice and freedom matches the money force of the World Economic Forum. You’ll know it’s enough when the WEF and friends are reigned in from their reckless quest for suicidal power.

    At which point you can ease off. Please don’t overdo it. Checks and balances , remember?

    #84934
    zerosum
    Participant

    D Benton Smith
    ” For every force there is an equal and opposite force.”

    I come back to
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religions_and_spiritual_traditions

    as an example of where to look to find the movers, shakers, and the influencers that are molding your thinking and your actions.
    They are hiding in plain sight.
    They are ruling without you being aware that you are being ruled.
    At present, two groups are in open conflict. (hint: Taliban)
    (there are roughly 4,200 religions, churches, denominations, religious bodies, faith groups, tribes, cultures, movements,)

    #84935
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Is this what’s really going on? I’ve no idea, but it’s a very interesting interview with a lot to think about.

    #84936
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    @Germ, that sounds very similar to how my UK GP (now ex-) friend reacted, he really flipped his lid about ivermectin. I can’t help thinking that these doctors are being threatened with being struck off if they so much as engage in a discussion about IVM.

    The video I just posted offers a possible explanation.

    #84937
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @Roboto

    The flu i had in Feb of 2020 was worse honestly. I took the bus into work Tuesday morning, my throat hurt and something didn’t feel right overall. Around noon i told my boss i didn’t feel good and went home. That started about three days where i had a fever, chills, and laid in bed until Friday. But later Friday night i suddenly felt as though i had come back from the dead. Like a 180 i felt “good”. What i had at the beginning of august was very different. Sunday i started to feel strange, fever started on Monday but i still worked. Tuesday i decided to use PTO. Lost taste and smell Friday of that week. The fever lasted about two weeks, brain fog (you feel unbalanced standing up, almost like your brain isn’t getting enough oxygen). Cough that i still have but is getting weaker. Major fatigue as in walking around the block would cause you to sweat like you just ran a 5k. Sitting upright at a desk would could you to sweat heavily. Heart rate was very fast just laying in bed. Wasn’t nearly as painful as the flu in Feb of 2020 but very long lasting. Basically if you listen to Karls Coof podcast, the second most recent where he describes what he had this August, its exactly the same as what i had.

    #84938
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @zerosum

    One of my earliest formal investigations was of comparative religion. The conclusion was that they were all predicated on pretty much the same basic concepts (which I more or less agreed with) but were operated day-to-day as power structures ( which I disagreed with, for the most part.) Then at age 12 came the first big moment of decision, putting my actions where my thoughts were. I made an appointment to meet with my Catholic parish priest, who I respected. In the meeting I told him that I could no longer honestly be a Catholic because I simply did not and could not believe in several of the it’s core dogma. He accepted my resignation without argument, whereupon I went my way with renewed respect for him AND his chosen religion.

    The quest continues. Going better than expected so far, so few complaints.

    #84939
    userzeroid
    Participant

    @ Germ. I have similar stories regarding the intolerance, insanity, mania/hysteria of those I know. I have lost respect for so many since this madness began. In fact, I started losing friends during Brexit and into Trump Derangment Syndrome. People I had good relationships with and had respected suddenly turned into unhinged madmen, incapable of seeing nuance. Black-and-white thinking dominated their worldview. “If only we got rid of this vile man and reversed the will of the people, things will improve”. It saddens me that so many I love are incapable of coming to their senses.

    The irony that we offer the freedom to choose while they enforce their “correct” viewpoints on others (as we are all just uninformed) is huge. At this late stage in this tragedy, we have to sit and wait for the truth to reveal itself. It seems we cannot even attempt to warn others.  In the end, nobody will escape this unharmed in some way. Everybody has somebody that they love who has bought into the narrative.

    I can imagine them pointing their fingers at the unvaxed in early 2022 “this is all YOUR fault!” Just as easily as turning on the very authorities that poisoned their immune systems with this crap.

    Of course, like so many who resist this violation of the nuremberg code, I will accept if I am wrong and will willingly succumb to a coronavirus that targets unvaccinated humans with healthy natural immunity. I don’t suspect so though. It is seeming more likely that I will be burned alive by an angry raving mob of lunatics for being a carrier of disease. Nobody in their right mind would have guessed that 2021 would have passed for the medieval age. With this in mind, the next medical innovation on the cards is probably bloodletting people to death (in order to save them from the dreaded covid)

    #84940
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Still don’t have taste or smell. Its strange when you eat a jalapeno and pepperoni pizza and can’t taste a thing. You can feel the heat from the peppers, but this is all.

    #84941
    absolute galore
    Participant

    germ quotes prof. Santin:The world literature is demonstrating the efficacy and safety of this drug at all stages of infection – I have witnessed first-hand very rapid responses after ivermectin administration both in Long Covid patients who have not been breathing well for months, and in extremely severe patients during the acute phase who were on oxygen and close to intubation. This evidence convinced me to quickly change my mind. ”

    Remember, this reportage is from early spring, before the Delta variant. According to FLCC and Dr. Kory, Delta needs to be treated much earlier, and they were apparently seeing less efficacy with Ivermectin in more advanced cases. Whether this was just an initial observation and things are more nuanced, I don’t know, have not seen much from them.

    There is still very little info on whether Delta is more or less virulent, though everyone is in agreement that it is more easily transmitted.

    Wonder what happened to the trope that only 20% of people even come down with covid when exposed, based on the percentage infected on the Princess Diana (?) that was on lockdown.

    #84942
    Mr. House
    Participant

    ‘Tainted’ Blood: Covid Skeptics Request Blood Transfusions From Unvaccinated Donors

    When you lose the drudge report, you’re losing the narrative 😉

    #84943
    democritus
    Participant

    Anecdotal evidence? Wow, that’s setting the bar pretty high. But sarcasm aside, why is Mr Denninger the goto for vaccine or immunity expertise?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Denninger

    #84944
    Mr. House
    Participant
    #84945
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Because we’ve been reading him since march of 2020 and he makes more sense then what the TV tells me. Just like the automatic earth and others made more sense in 2008 then what the economist and the wall street journal were telling me. Next question?

    #84946
    Noirette
    Participant

    DW documentary, eng., The history of Afghanistan (> 50 years) is interesting as it airs a lot of old vid. footage. Re-traces the rough lines of the history. Reminded me, for ex. that Afghan women got the vote before the Swiss ones (1964 vs. 1971.)

    It brings home that in Afgh (imho) there have been two main ‘from the ppl, or popular’ impulses or forces at work: rural, local, poor, religious, socially conservative, “tribal”, working in primary production; those willing to fight we know about, the Mujahideen, the Taliban. Manipulated by foreign funding, arms, co-opted, instrumentalised…And SPLIT, as the Northern Alliance (Shah Massoud’s son, seems weak? – link 2) was, and is, determined to fight the Taliban, yet another complicated story.

    VS.. ‘progressive’, urban, more secular (mixed..), richer, more ‘top social’ classes, which were, and are, in thrall to foreign powers and subservient to them in many ways, be they turn-by-turn the Brits, the Soviets, USuk, with EU support, etc.

    Today it is China and Russia who will negotiate what will happen.

    DW television: 1H 22mins. https://tinyurl.com/c2848wjk

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/ahmad-massoud-son-of-assassinated-anti-taliban-fighter-calls-for-support-101629618970044.html

    In the Afgh. debacle, few ppl have COV-19, are v. sick, or dying, no hospitals are swamped. Nobody wears masks (a few exceptions, and see burkas…), basically nobody is vaxxed :), heh, it appears that in Afgh. COV-19 is not a consideration, maybe there is a lesson there.

    #84947
    democritus
    Participant

    Because we’ve been reading him since march of 2020 and he makes more sense then what the TV tells me. Just like the automatic earth and others made more sense in 2008 then what the economist and the wall street journal were telling me. Next question?

    So, confirmation bias then. Why do you think you are a good judge of what makes sense in virology and immunology? And if you are, why do you need to read anything?

    #84948
    Germ
    Participant

    @ Oroboros & Polder

    Thank you for those comments – they reassure me that it is, in fact, not I who is going mad!

    #84949
    Germ
    Participant

    #84950
    Django
    Participant

    I like Denninger because he swears a lot at people I disapprove of.

    #84951
    those darned kids
    Participant

    i like karl denninger because he knows a lot about a lot and can articulate it clearly without having to resort to boastfulness like some others may do. to wit:

    As for Facebook, don’t worry, I am not on there either. I think it is a good place for the masses to congregate and leave the rest of the internet smart people like me.

    Debt Rattle May 3 2019

    #84952
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @democritus

    ref : ” So, confirmation bias then. Why do you think you are a good judge of what makes sense in virology and immunology? And if you are, why do you need to read anything? ”

    The same judgement that empowers me to judge from whom to expect information more likely to be be true rather than false. No guarantees, of course, but ya gotta start somewhere in the search for good data . . . and it’s inadvisable to turn to sources thrice proven to be pathological liars, fools, crooks and bullshit artsists.

    Of what use is an expert to ANYONE if those “anyones” don’t have some capacity to judge who is a reliable expert. Are you volunteering for the job ? Will YOU recommend where I should turn for verity? If, so then convince me why I should take your advices.

    #84953
    zerosum
    Participant

    democritus
    You should go make comment at “The Market Ticker”

    #84954
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Hey everybody! It turns out we all really DO want the vaccine, but we’ve become too emotionally invested in our anti-vaxx stance to be able to listen to the little voice telling us we are wrong wrong wrong. I know this because I just read it in Salon! What a relief!

    Given the ease with which people can find misinformation and faulty pseudoscientific “evidence” that supports their initial bias against the COVID-19 vaccine, it’s not surprising that a burgeoning community exists to elevate and adulate those who have championed not getting vaccinated as an expression of their “protected freedom.” Every time a person is reinforced with strong (not positive, but, intense) feedback for such a stance, their confirmation bias deepens. Every conflict that they invest in defending their position strengthens their commitment to a sunk cost fallacy way of living in the world. To be open to changing their minds and/or behavior would be akin to being open to losing all esteem and connection in a world that trades on social capital.

    Sadly, the writer has not yet received the memo from SCIENCE that herd immunity is not possible, and likely never was (especially after employing leaky vaccines):

    If we hope to reach the vaccination levels that will prevent COVID-19 from permanently affecting our way of communal life, we must reimagine the way in which we interact with those whose confirmation bias leads them to reject the science and humanitarian evidence that supports vaccination as the only way to achieve herd immunity. We must stop shaming them and, instead, invite them into spaces where they are safe to step back from the investments they’ve made in their public positions so they can consider new information without it challenging their sense of self or belonging.

    But unlike many, the author is COMPASSIONATE! She advocates creating a safe space to try to brainwash us:

    Leading these conversations by finding something that you can agree on is a good start. (For instance: “I know we’ve both invested a lot of time in informing and expressing our viewpoints. I know that this subject matters a lot to both of us which is why I’d really like to have a heartfelt conversation rather than a public shamefest.”) It means embracing the motto of “doing no harm,” as well as “taking no shit” as we work toward the freedom for all to live in a world where the openness to change one’s mind is as valued as stirring the social media pot.

    It’s funny how these approaches always start with the assumption that one side is correct and the other side is loony tunes. The writer is a psychologist, so she is obviously getting all her info from the non-censored SCIENCE. No chance that some parts of each narrative might be true, and that extremes on either end are often false (and corrupt the entire position, since nuance is extinct in the 21st Century).

    We need more “How to Talk Safely to Friends and Relatives Brainwashed Into Mass Psychosis By The Main Stream Media” articles.
    There’s a psychological reason anti-vaccine misinformation is so hard to fight

    #84955
    HerrWerner
    Participant

    @Mr-House yesterday – I had the antibody test (38 bucks out-of-pocket.) I wanted to find out if I had antibodies from a covid exposure (and the “bad cold???” I had) over a year ago. Looking back I probably would have saved my cash but it was a learning experience. It didn’t shed much light, food for thought –

    A good friend got tested at the same place. Nurse was surprised his test came back negative, since he’s had the jab. He’s kind of pissed, after all the fanfare and risk of side-effects he doesn’t show antibodies, what the actual WTF? His regular doctor is hemming and hawing about how welllll it doesn’t mean you’re not immune but tests and specificity and antigens and hand-waving stuff.

    Mine came back negative. Now I don’t even know if it means anything TBTH. Maybe it’s just a cheapshit medical test that’s unreliable. The only thing I know for sure is that it emptied 38 bucks from my wallet.

    Afterward I looked up the test I took – a smaller biotech company, they just import the test in sealed foil packets from China. The tests are not approved, but authorized under an EUA, like the jabs (curious that antibody tests are not reimbursed by health insurance, but the EUA covid-jab is?) Some cursory efficacy testing is performed here. I count 86 other, nearly identical test kits. Lots of caveats in the test report. With all them ifs and buts, seems like the real motive of these tests is an income stream.

    FDA posts test data for them here you can look them up by brand name.

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