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Paul Gauguin Harbour scene, Dieppe 1883

 

Borrell: The EU Is A Garden, The Rest Of The World Is A Jungle (RT)
Borrell: West Will ‘Annihilate’ Russian Army If Moscow Uses Nukes (Antiwar)
Borrell: ‘Propaganda Is Our Battlefield’ (ZH)
EU Opens Probe Into Vaccine Deals (RT)
Putin Explains Why There Are No Peace Talks With Ukraine (RT)
Russia Courts Muslim Countries As Strategic Eurasian Partners (Escobar)
The EU Courageously Denounces Terrorism (Saker)
Merkel Defends ‘Very Rational’ Russian Gas Deals (RT)
German Leaders Care More About NATO Than Their Own People – Putin (RT)
Russia ‘To Repair Crimea Bridge Damage By July 2023’ (RT)
Putin Reveals Threat To Istanbul Grain Deal (RT)
The Western Empire Attacks Russia: The World Strikes Back (Red)
The Supremes Get It Right – Again (Denninger)
We’re Coming For You (Jim Kunstler)
Trump ‘Loves The Idea Of Testifying’ Before Jan. 6 Committee (Fox)

 

 

 

That got Elon on the list:

 

 

Kuleba

 

 

 

 

George Webb Black Sea

 

 

This got the cartoonist banned.

 

 

Dec 2016. Got everything right, except one detail.

 

 

 

 

Borrell must go. I can repeat that every day. He’s the EU equivalent of Lavrov, but can’t stand in his shadow . Embarrassing.

Borrell: The EU Is A Garden, The Rest Of The World Is A Jungle (RT)

The European Union is a “garden” that has the best combination of “political freedom, economic prosperity and social cohesion” ever known to humankind – and must be protected from the outside “jungle.” That’s according to EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell, who made the comparison while delivering a speech at the inauguration of a pilot university program designed to cultivate the next generation of European diplomats. Addressing a group of students at the College of Europe in Bruges on Thursday, Borrell said “The rest of the world… is not exactly a garden. Most of the rest of the world is a jungle, and the jungle could invade the garden. The gardeners should take care of it, but they will not protect the garden by building walls.”

He insisted that Europeans have to be “much more engaged” with the rest of the world and put their “privilege” to good use. The gardeners have to go to the jungle… Otherwise, the rest of the world will invade us, by different ways and means. Led by Borrell’s predecessor, Federica Mogherini, the European Diplomatic Academy is a brainchild of the European External Action Service (EEAS) launched this year with the stated goal of cultivating a “truly European diplomatic corps.” Some 42 students are taking part in the first year pilot, mostly candidates from various EU institutions, but also diplomats from the Western Balkans countries, Georgia, Moldova and Türkiye – as well as two candidates from Ukraine.

“You are the first generation. You are the trailblazers of a process, and I hope that many others will come,” Borrel told the group of future diplomats. “Keep the garden, be good gardeners. But your duty will not be to take care of the garden itself but [of] the jungle outside.” It’s not the first time Borrell has compared the EU to a beautiful and tidy garden surrounded by a chaotic, lawless jungle. Back in March he told El Mundo that “if we don’t want the jungle to eat our garden, we have to wake up.”

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Not a day goes by without some westerner telling us Russia wants to use nukes. Problem is, they’ve made very clear that they don’t.

Borrell: West Will ‘Annihilate’ Russian Army If Moscow Uses Nukes (Antiwar)

EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell issued a threat against Russia on Thursday, warning that Western powers would “annihilate” the Russian army if Moscow uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine. “Putin is saying he is not bluffing. Well, he cannot afford bluffing, and it has to be clear that the people supporting Ukraine and the European Union and the Member States, and the United States and NATO are not bluffing neither,” Borrel said at a European Diplomatic Academy event in Bruges, Belgium. “Any nuclear attack against Ukraine will create an answer, not a nuclear answer but such a powerful answer from the military side that the Russian Army will be annihilated,” he added. The warning from Borrel came as NATO defense ministers held the second day of talks in Brussels, which included a closed-door meeting of the alliance’s nuclear planning group, the body that sets and reviews NATO’s nuclear policies.


NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg also warned Russia against using nuclear weapons, saying it would have “severe consequences.” But he said the chances of NATO using a nuclear weapon are “extremely remote.” When announcing a partial mobilization last month, Russian President Vladimir Putin warned that Russia could use all of the weapons at its disposal to defend its “territorial integrity.” Russian officials insist Putin’s comments were nothing new and fell within Russia’s long-established military doctrine, which says nuclear weapons could be used if the country faces an “existential threat.” But the warning was significant since Russia has extended its territory by annexing areas in Ukraine under its control, and other Russian officials have explicitly said they could defend the new territories with nuclear weapons.

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“What would have happened if, instead of [Joe] Biden, it would have been [Donald] Trump or someone like him in the White House? What would have been the answer of the United States to the war in Ukraine?”

Borrell: ‘Propaganda Is Our Battlefield’ (ZH)

“This is a perfect storm,” exclaims European Commission Vice President Josep Borrell in his opening speech to EU Ambassadors this week. Having noted previously his warnings to The Fed that it is “bringing us to a world recession,” Borrell went considerably further in a surprisingly frank and plain-speaking address. He began by warning that “the world we are facing is a world of radical uncertainty.” The speed and scope of change is exceptional. We should not try to deny it. We should not try to resist it. It would be a futile effort. We have to accept it and to adapt [to] it, prioritising flexibility and resilience. But uncertainty is the rule. Events that one could imagine that they will never happen, they are happening one after the other. At this pace, the black swan will be the majority. It will not be white swans – all of them will be black – because one after the other, things have happened that had a very low probability of happening, nevertheless they happened, and they had a strong impact and certainly they happened.”

The EC VP then goes on to try and summarize the extent of the European crisis and how they got there, admitting that they were entirely dependent on China (trade), Russia (energy), and US (security)… “I think that we Europeans are facing a situation in which we suffer the consequences of a process that has been lasting for years in which we have decoupled the sources of our prosperity from the sources of our security. This is a sentence to provide the headline, and I am taking that from Olivier Schmitt, who has been developing this thesis – I think – quite well. Our prosperity has been based on cheap energy coming from Russia. Russian gas – cheap and supposedly affordable, secure, and stable. It has been proved not [to be] the case. And the access to the big China market, for exports and imports, for technological transfers, for investments, for having cheap goods.

I think that the Chinese workers with their low salaries have done much better and much more to contain inflation than all the Central Banks together. So, our prosperity was based on China and Russia – energy and market. Clearly, today, we have to find new ways for energy from inside the European Union, as much as we can, because we should not change one dependency for another. The best energy is the one that you produce at home. That will produce a strong restructuring of our economy – that is for sure. People are not aware of that but the fact that Russia and China are no longer the ones that [they] were for our economic development will require a strong restructuring of our economy.

The access to China is becoming more and more difficult. The adjustment will be tough, and this will create political problems. On the other hand, we delegated our security to the United States. While the cooperation with the Biden Administration is excellent, and the transatlantic relationship has never been as good as it is today – [including] our cooperation with the United States and my friend Tony [Anthony] Blinken [US Secretary of State]: we are in a fantastic relationship and cooperating a lot; who knows what will happen two years from now, or even in November? What would have happened if, instead of [Joe] Biden, it would have been [Donald] Trump or someone like him in the White House? What would have been the answer of the United States to the war in Ukraine? What would have been our answer in a different situation?

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And Von der Leyen should go too, of course. In a normal setting, her position would long have been untenable.

EU Opens Probe Into Vaccine Deals (RT)

The European Union prosecutor’s office has launched an investigation into the bloc’s procurement of billions of Covid-19 vaccine doses, amid allegations of corruption and secret backroom dealings from several members of parliament. EU officials announced the probe in a brief statement on Friday, confirming an “ongoing investigation into the acquisition of Covid-19 vaccines in the European Union.” They added that the case follows “extremely high public interest” around the issue, though declined to share any other details. While prosecutors were tight-lipped about the exact nature of the probe, the announcement follows allegations from MEPs that European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen conducted vaccine negotiations with Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla in secret.

Despite requests from journalists, lawmakers and an EU watchdog, von der Leyen’s office has failed to produce personal text messages sent to Bourla during talks for nearly 2 billion vaccine doses, prompting accusations of corruption. Croatian MEP Mislav Kolakusic noted the new investigation later on Friday, saying the decision was made thanks to pressure from lawmakers. Though he was unable to shed additional light on the probe, Kolakusic has been highly critical of the EU’s vaccine procurement process, claiming deals for billions of doses were marred by “corruption” and secrecy.

“Today, 10 of us MEPs asked [von der Leyen] the following question: when will she present to us… the communication she had with Pfizer during the procurement of 4.5 billion doses of vaccines at a time when there was absolutely no proof of the effectiveness, and especially not of the harmfulness, of that product?” he said in a tweet earlier this week, calling the issue the “biggest corruption scandal in the history of mankind.” Last month, the European Court of Auditors said that it has asked the commission to provide information on “preliminary negotiations” for the EU’s largest Pfizer purchase – including “scientific experts consulted and advice received, timing of the talks, records of the discussions, and details of the agreed terms and conditions” – but added that “none was forthcoming.” The European Commission still has yet to make the information public, fueling corruption allegations from MEPs.

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“Those agreements were almost initialled. But as soon as the troops were pulled back from Kiev, the leadership in Kiev lost all desire to have talks..”

“[Boris] Johnson arrived in Kiev, “almost without warning” on April 9. He allegedly told the Ukrainian leader that Western nations would refuse to sign up to the security guarantees that Kiev wanted to receive under the proposed peace treaty.”

Putin Explains Why There Are No Peace Talks With Ukraine (RT)

Ukraine is refusing to engage in peace talks, Russian President Vladimir Putin told journalists on Friday, when asked about possible negotiations to end the conflict between the two countries. The Kiev government “had been saying that they wanted talks and ostensibly asked for them, but now they issued a formal decision that prohibits them,” he said during a press conference in Astana, Kazakhstan. Earlier this month, Zelensky signed a decree forbidding any negotiations with Putin, saying Ukraine will only talk to Russia when it has a different president. Speaking to journalists on Friday, Putin remarked that mediation by nations including Türkey between Moscow and Kiev may be required, if Ukraine’s position changes. Putin recalled that Russia and Ukraine reached a preliminary agreement which could have the halted hostilities, during Turkey-mediated talks in late March.

“Those agreements were almost initialled. But as soon as the troops were pulled back from Kiev, the leadership in Kiev lost all desire to have talks,” he remarked. The Russian Defense Ministry announced a withdrawal of troops from the Ukrainian capital after news broke that the negotiators in Istanbul had agreed on a draft treaty. Under its terms, Ukraine would have pledged to maintain a neutral status and not allow foreign troops and military installations on its soil, in exchange for security guarantees from foreign nations, including Russia. Days later, President Vladimir Zelensky accused Russian troops of committing war crimes, claiming that evidence was discovered in Bucha, one of the towns near Kiev that the Russian army had left. He declared that the Ukrainian people would not allow him to negotiate with Russia after the discovery.

Moscow claimed that the evidence was fabricated to justify breaking off the talks. According to Russian diplomats, Moscow wrote up a formal peace agreement based on Ukrainian proposals and sent it to Kiev, but never heard anything back. According to Ukrainian media reports in May, Zelensky was pressured into breaking off negotiations with Russia by Boris Johnson, then-prime minister of Britain. Johnson arrived in Kiev, “almost without warning” on April 9. He allegedly told the Ukrainian leader that Western nations would refuse to sign up to the security guarantees that Kiev wanted to receive under the proposed peace treaty. President Zelensky has repeatedly stated that his only goal in the conflict is to defeat Russia on the battlefield and retake control of all territories that Kiev claims to be under its sovereignty.

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Go east, young man.

Russia Courts Muslim Countries As Strategic Eurasian Partners (Escobar)

Everything that matters in the complex process of Eurasia integration was once again at play in Astana, as the – renamed – Kazakh capital hosted the 6th Conference on Interaction and Confidence-Building Measures in Asia (CICA). The roll call was a Eurasian thing of beauty – featuring the leaders of Russia and Belarus (EAEU), West Asia (Azerbaijan, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Qatar, Palestine) and Central Asia (Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan). China and Vietnam (East and Southeast Asia) attended at the level of vice presidents. CICA is a multinational forum focused on cooperation toward peace, security, and stability across Asia.,Kazakh President Tokayev revealed that CICA has just adopted a declaration to turn the forum into an international organization.

CICA has already established a partnership with the Eurasia Economic Union (EAEU). So in practice, it will soon be working together side-by-side with the SCO, the EAEU and certainly BRICS+. The Russia-Iran strategic partnership was prominently featured at CICA, especially after Iran being welcomed to the SCO as a full member. President Raeisi, addressing the forum, stressed the crucial notion of an emerging “new Asia”, where “convergence and security” are “not compatible with the interests of hegemonic countries and any attempt to destabilize independent nations has goals and consequences beyond national geographies, and in fact, aims to target the stability and prosperity of regional countries.”

For Tehran, being a partner in the integration of CICA, within a maze of pan-Asia institutions, is essential after all these decades of”maximum pressure” unleashed by the Hegemon. Moreover, it opens an opportunity, as Raeisi noted, for Iran to profit from “Asia’s economic infrastructure.” Russian President Vladimir Putin, predictably, was the star of the show in Astana. It’s essential to note that Putin is supported by “all”nations represented at CICA. High-level bilaterals with Putin included the Emir of Qatar: everyone that matters in West Asia wants to talk to “isolated” Russia. Putin called for “compensation for the damage caused to the Afghans during the years of occupation” (we all know the Empire of Chaos, Lies and Plunder will refuse it), and emphasized the key role of the SCO to develop Afghanistan.

He stated that Asia, “where new centers of power are growing stronger, plays a big role in the transition to a multipolar world order”. sHe warned, “there is a real threat of famine and large-scale shocks against the backdrop of volatility in energy and food prices in the world.” He further called for the end of a financial system that benefits the “Golden billion” – who “live at the expense of others” (there’s nothing “golden” about this “billion”: at best such definition of wealth applies to 10 million.) And he stressed that Russia is doing everything to “form a system of equal and indivisible security”. Exactly what drives the hegemonic imperial elites completely berserk.

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“..Russia should simply forget about the West (at least for a decade or so)..”

The EU Courageously Denounces Terrorism (Saker)

In the meantime, the FSB has pretty much figured out how the explosives which were used by the Ukrainian GUR were brought into Russia: by using the Istanbul grain deal of course! [..] This would all be truly hilarious if it was not so evil, hypocritical and dishonorable. This is also very dangerous as the countries which participate in this farce are all showing either 1) their true allegiance to the AngloZionist Empire or 2) their total lack of courage. Which means that they are not only removing themselves from any real negotiations, they are also painting themselves into a political corner from which they won’t be able to get out again. To put it differently, the EU nations want to regime change Russia, which means that Russia will have to regime change them.

That is also what “denazification” and “demilitarization” means! Of course, the example of Serbia, which voted against Russia, shows that a comprador regime never represents the interests of the people it rules over. Besides, votes and declarations by non-sovereign states mean absolutely nothing. The only vote which counts is the vote of countries with actual agency and sovereignty. In conclusion, I will just repeat here what I have been writing for years and which I still believe to be true: Russia should simply forget about the West (at least for a decade or so). I mean, of course, Russia needs to be fully cognisant that the West will continue its total war against Russia in every conceivable manner short of a direct and overt military attack (and some hyenas and former empires are even capable of that!).

And if the West wants to buy something from Russia – by all means! Russia did not create these idiotic sanctions and she sure has no obligation or reason to enforce them against herself. But the future of Russia is in the South (Mediterranean, Middle-East, Africa, Latin America, Central Asia, the Indian subcontinent, etc.) the East (China) and the North (the Arctic, the Northern Route, the Russian Northeast). Russia is also making major inroads with various Muslim countries who, each for their own reasons, are really getting fed up with the infinite arrogance and incompetence of Uncle Shmuel and seek to collaborate with Russia. As for the West, it is turning itself into a pile of compost without any need for Russian assistance. Why interrupt it?

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“This is a turning point, and of course the new government has to deal with it. And that is what it is doing,” she said of the Scholz leadership.”

It is? You sure? Do we think NS2 would ever have been shut under Merkel, who initialled it?

Merkel Defends ‘Very Rational’ Russian Gas Deals (RT)

Germany’s former chancellor, Angela Merkel, has said she does not regret her decision to sign natural gas deals with Russia during her 16 years in power, arguing that Moscow has long been a “reliable energy supplier” and offers lower prices than its competitors. Speaking to reporters at an event in Lisbon, Merkel explained that Germany has long sought to move away from coal as an energy source, and that Russian natural gas was the best available option as Berlin aimed to eventually “arrive at CO2-free forms of energy.” “From the perspective of that time, it was very rational and understandable to obtain pipeline-bound gas from Russia, which was cheaper than LNG [liquefied natural gas] from other parts of the world,” she said on Thursday, adding that “Even during the Cold War, Russia was a reliable energy supplier.”

After taking office in 2005, Merkel presided over two major gas deals with Moscow, both intended to funnel energy directly into Germany from Russia through the Nord Stream 1 and later Nord Stream 2 pipelines, which bypassed transit states such as Ukraine and Poland.[..] After taking office in 2005, Merkel presided over two major gas deals with Moscow, both intended to funnel energy directly into Germany from Russia through the Nord Stream 1 and later Nord Stream 2 pipelines, which bypassed transit states such as Ukraine and Poland. However, Nord Stream 2 never became operational, as Merkel’s successor, Chancellor Olaf Scholz, paused the project’s certification just days before Russia sent troops into Ukraine in late February.

American LNG exports to Europe have ramped up significantly in recent months as much of the continent seeks to distance itself from Russian energy supplies, nearly doubling sales recorded in 2021. Given that Russia previously covered about 40% of the EU’s gas imports, however, prices have seen a sharp rise, stoking fears that some Europeans will be unable to heat their homes come winter. Merkel, who has faced criticism for maintaining Germany’s dependence on Russia, went on to say that it was “right to accelerate the fight against climate change at the end of my term,” referring to the Russian gas purchases and efforts to end the use of coal, but added that Moscow’s “brutal invasion” of Ukraine had changed Germany’s calculus. “This is a turning point, and of course the new government has to deal with it. And that is what it is doing,” she said of the Scholz leadership.

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“I believe that it’s a mistake, and business, the economy, and the citizens of the Federal Republic [of Germany] are paying for this mistake..”

German Leaders Care More About NATO Than Their Own People – Putin (RT)

Berlin made a mistake by placing its obligations to NATO above the interests of the German people, Russian President Vladimir Putin has said. Now business, the country’s economy and its citizens are paying for this mistake, he told journalists on Friday. “Apparently, some kind of allied obligations have been placed to the forefront” by Germany “within the framework of the North Atlantic Treaty Alliance,” Putin said at a press conference after the Central Asia-Russia summit in Astana, Kazakhstan. “Is it right or wrong? I believe that it’s a mistake, and business, the economy, and the citizens of the Federal Republic [of Germany] are paying for this mistake, because it has negative economic consequences for the eurozone in general and for the Federal Republic in particular,” Putin pointed out.

He was answering a question about Berlin’s role in the Ukraine conflict, where it has been among key backers of Kiev. According to the Russian leader, German authorities “should decide for themselves what is more important: the fulfilment of some allied obligations as they see them, or ensuring the interests of their own people, their national interests.” Earlier this week, Ukraine’s Defense Minister Alexey Reznikov announced that Kiev received the first unit of the German cutting-edge IRIS-T air defense system. His German counterpart Christine Lambrecht called the shipment an important contribution to the Eastern European nation’s ability to defend itself from “missile shelling.” That’s while the German military has so far not received a single unit of the ground-based IRIS-T system variant, which led to concerns being voiced by some politicians and media outlets, who believe that the country is depleting its own weapons stockpile by sending the arms to Kiev.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said earlier that Berlin will keep up its support for Ukraine “for as long as it takes.” After Russia launched its military operation in Ukraine in late February, many Western states imposed unprecedented sanctions against the country. This has led to a significant drop in Russian natural gas shipments to Western Europe, including Germany, and resulted in soaring energy prices and accelerating inflation. Berlin has introduced a series of measures meant to reduce winter energy consumption. Meanwhile, prices for firewood and wood pellets rose by over 85% in August compared to the same month last year, according to a recent report by Destatis, the Federal Statistics Office.

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No hurry, security first.

Russia ‘To Repair Crimea Bridge Damage By July 2023’ (RT)

: Russia’s government has ordered contractors to finish repairs to a key bridge linking annexed Crimea to Russia by July 2023. The bridge was damaged by a blast last Saturday which officials say left at least three people dead. Russia blamed Ukraine for the attack but Kyiv has not said it was behind it. The 19km (12-mile) bridge, Europe’s longest, is a key supply route for Russian forces in Ukraine, but heavy goods vehicles are unable to use it. The explosion caused midway sections of two of the four carriageways of the bridge to collapse into the sea and also damaged the railway line. Currently, lorries are forced to queue for a ferry, in a process which is thought to take several days.


A document on the Russian government’s website said it had appointed the company Nizhneangarsktransstroy to be the sole contractor, tasked with the “design and restoration of destroyed elements of the transport and engineering infrastructure of the Crimean Bridge”. It sets “a deadline by which state contracts for the work are to be completed… of 1 July 2023”. The bridge was opened by Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2018, four years after Russia’s annexation of Crimea.

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“..if it turns out that humanitarian corridors [used] for grain shipments to the poorest nations… are used for terrorist attacks, it would put the very existence of these corridors in question.”

Putin Reveals Threat To Istanbul Grain Deal (RT)

Ukraine apparently transported the explosives used in last week’s attack on the Crimean Bridge by sea, Russian President Vladimir Putin told journalists on Friday, citing a report by the Federal Security Service (FSB). If it is proven that grain carriers operating in the Black Sea under the Istanbul grain deal were involved, it would have dire consequences for the agreement, he warned. Earlier this week, the FSB revealed that explosives disguised as a 22-ton shipment of plastic construction sheeting arrived at the Bulgarian Danube port of Ruse from Ukraine’s port of Odessa by sea. “It is not yet clear if grain carriers were involved,” Putin said at a press conference in the Kazakh capital of Astana. If it turns out that humanitarian corridors [used] for grain shipments to the poorest nations… are used for terrorist attacks, it would put the very existence of these corridors in question.

The president admitted that Russia still does not have any solid evidence confirming that Ukraine may be using grain exports for such activities. However, he warned that the response would be swift and tough if this is the case. “There will be a simple answer: We will shut down [the grain export corridors] and there is an end to it,”Putin warned, adding that Moscow would look for rock-solid proof first. The breakthrough grain deal between Moscow and Kiev was reached in Istanbul in July with mediation by the UN and Türkiye. It aimed to unlock exports of Ukrainian and Russian grain. The two countries are among the world’s leading grain exporters, but trade had come to a halt due to the protracted conflict between the two neighbors.

On Friday, Russia also warned that it may still quit the deal if obstacles to its own food and fertilizer exports are not removed. Moscow has been complaining for months that restrictions on its food and fertilizer exports linked to international sanctions have not been lifted, months after it provided conditions for the Ukrainian grain exports through the Black Sea. The developments also come in the wake of an attack on the Crimean Bridge linking the peninsula to mainland Russia. A truck explosion on the bridge killed at least four people and led to a partial collapse of the highway bridge section. Russia then declared the attack a terrorist act and blamed the Ukrainian security services. The Russian security services also detained a total of eight suspects, including Russians, Armenians and Ukrainians, in connection with the attack.

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“Jo Red is “lucky enough to be born in Italy: studied a lot, knows nothing”

The Western Empire Attacks Russia: The World Strikes Back (Red)

At this point, even Biden must be realizing that there were deeper reasons behind the Saudi prince’s decline of his phone call already in March, besides inflicting him and the American government the umpteenth humiliation on the world stage. Not only the US are finally given the brush-off in one of the most important regions of the world: the latter is actively being reshaped by the hatred of them. The Middle East connects three continents, including the two largest, not to mention oceans and seas, and by controlling its straits the Anglo-American have been able to choke the world economy for well over a century. Add the infamously rich resources of the region.

It is no coincidence that the same Raymond Geuss considers the British loss of control of the Suez strait in 1956 as the end of their empire, more than the independence of India. Let’s not forget this was “facilitated” by Khrushchev’s threat at the UN to resort to missiles in case the colonial powers did not withdraw from Egypt. The region continued to be torn apart by the West’s skillful exploitation of its ideological, social, national, and especially religious diversity: first of all, the conflict between Shia and Sunni Muslims. These are behind the most dramatic – and almost completely ignored – humanitarian crisis of our time: the devastation of Yemen.

It won’t be easy, but if the interests of such opposite countries as Saudi Arabia and Iran were to align, with a little help by American hostile resentment against the independence of both, and perhaps a friendly nudge by Russia (and China), this would be a massive blow to Western hegemony. Much more than the temporary occupation of I don’t know how many soccer fields in rural Ukraine.

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“..Constitutional Rights, such as they are, attach at birth as being born is the delineating point for the purpose of the Constitution at a federal level.”

The Supremes Get It Right – Again (Denninger)

Oct 11 (Reuters) – “The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday declined to decide whether fetuses are entitled to constitutional rights in light of its June ruling overturning the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that had legalized abortion nationwide, steering clear for now of another front in America’s culture wars. The justices turned away an appeal by a Catholic group and two women of a lower court’s ruling holding that fetuses lacked the proper legal standing to challenge a 2019 state law codifying the right to abortion in line with the Roe precedent. The two women, pregnant at the time when the case was first filed, sued on behalf of their fetuses and later gave birth.”

This is a correct decision; the Constitution is clear. This doesn’t mean a state cannot go further. It can; that which is not under the view of the Federal Constitution can still be addressed under a State Constitution. It cannot be argued that at the time of the drafting of the Constitution or that of the 14th Amendment there was any question as to the significance of gamete fusion and creation of a zygote. That event was known to the drafters of both along with its significance; there is no reasonable argument possible otherwise. Therefore there is no “controversy” nor anything to be “clarified” as to the meaning of the words in the Constitution: The words are clear on their face; Constitutional Rights, such as they are, attach at birth as being born is the delineating point for the purpose of the Constitution at a federal level.

If someone wants to change this (and clearly plenty of people do) the proper way to do it is through a Constitutional Amendment, not running to a court and demanding that the court rewrite that which is there, or simply ignore what’s written and make something up. Going through that process is difficult, it requires large super-majorities and thus it requires overwhelming consensus and careful consideration by everyone involved including input from the citizens in each of the respective 50 States and their Legislatures. It should require exactly that and people on both sides who are trying to short-cut that process are wrong and should be slapped down because the only reason to short-cut the process is that you do not believe you can carry the debate when it is held in full.

In other words you insist on short-cutting the process because it is your expressed intent to cheat! I don’t care which side of a given argument one may be on for a given issue; either the Constitution is contained within the four corners of the page and the words are as-written or it is toilet paper and of no force and effect whatsoever. In the latter case all law flowing from same is of no force and effect and nobody has an obligation to adhere to any of it, whether at a state, local or individual level. Think long and hard about the implication of that before you advocate for what these jackasses tried to do — and which was properly rebuffed by the Justices.

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“The lamp-posts in the WalMart parking lots could be decorated with dangling local election officials..”

We’re Coming For You (Jim Kunstler)

Have you noticed, as the election looms, the Party of Chaos trips deeper into its own self-created chaos? Turns out that the effort to make Ukraine the fifty-first state is not going over so well with the voters. Nor is the campaign to convince children to switch sexes. Or the crusade to sell ever more mRNA “vaccines” that the CDC knows good-and-goshdarn-well is killing and maiming credulous citizens by the millions. Or the program for importing limitless alien “vibrance” across the open border with Mexico…. As the venerable Rolling Stones sang more than a half century ago: “Rape… murder… it’s just a shot away!” This is the kind of country that the Party of Chaos has been grooming you up for.

It’s not working. We are coming for you: leaders, mesmerized minions, and obliging tools of this Satanic faction that seized the levers of power in America and turned them into wrecking bars. After the nervous hiatus from November to January, we’re coming for you in 2023. You are going to answer for the decisions you took and the rules you made that drove our country to its knees and half out of it’s mind. We are storming you in your Kafka’s Castle of lies and malice, and we are going to drag you out of there kicking and screaming. Preserving your decorum will not be our first consideration, Rochelle Walensky, Tony Fauci, Alejandro Mayorkas, Merrick Garland, Christopher Wray, and the people who work for you.

There’s a lot of loose talk about some as-yet-unknown Party of Chaos’s ploy to stave off the November 8th reckoning — say, drag out the vote count for weeks and confabulate the results… declare some emergency to shut down in-person voting… or somehow postpone the vote altogether. Nothing like that will go over successfully this time around. The lamp-posts in the WalMart parking lots could be decorated with dangling local election officials who get caught churning phony ballots, tweaking Dominion machines, and taping-up the polling places’ windows with cardboard. You’re getting no help, meantime, from the folks who run the maundering flunkey you installed as president. They just flipped-off Sergey Lavrov’s invitation to negotiate some reasonable end to your $60-plus billion orchestrated fiasco in Ukraine. These are the people that party apostate Tulsi Gabbard identified lately as “an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness.” She got that exactly right, and at exactly the right moment in history, too.

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Nancy Pelosi had her daughter lead an entire film crew on Jan 6. Who happened to catch it “all”. Doesn’t smell right.

Trump ‘Loves The Idea Of Testifying’ Before Jan. 6 Committee (Fox)

Former President Donald Trump “loves the idea of testifying” before the House select committee investigating January 6th, a source close to Trump told Fox News Digital just after the panel unanimously voted to subpoena him. The source said that if Trump complied with the subpoena and testified, he would “talk about how corrupt the election was, how corrupt the committee was, and how Nancy Pelosi did not call up the National Guard that Trump strongly recommended for her to do three days earlier on January 3, 2021.” The source told Fox News Digital that it is unclear at this point if Trump actually will testify before the committee, but stressed that Trump “loves the idea.” The committee — which consists of seven Democrats and two anti-Trump Republicans — voted Thursday to compel Trump to testify about his conduct leading up to and during the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021.

In an exclusive interview with Fox News Digital on Thursday, Trump slammed the committee and its investigation as a “witch hunt.” “The committee is a hoax, a sham, a partisan witch hunt which is a continuation of the witch hunt that has gone on since the great day for our country that I came down the golden escalator with our future first lady,” Trump said. “They have no case, they have no ratings, so they have to try to do this to get publicity.” Trump told Fox News Digital that the investigation has been “a partisan witch hunt, together with two Republicans that have been thrown out of the party — one not wanting to run because he couldn’t win; and another losing by a record number of more than 40 points.” sTrump was referring to Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., who lost her primary earlier this year, and Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., who decided not to run for re-election.

Trump told Fox News Digital that the committee “never covered the important subject of election fraud, or why Pelosi and the mayor of D.C. did not call up the National Guard — which I strongly recommended.” “They didn’t cover the reason for January 6 — the largest crowd — it wasn’t set up by me,” Trump said. “The committee didn’t cover election fraud, which was massive, and they didn’t cover why Pelosi didn’t call the National Guard.” Trump said that he had recommended that Pelosi and the mayor of Washington call up the National Guard on Jan. 6 because he “felt the crowd was going to be far bigger than anyone understood.” “They didn’t do their job. I believed the crowd was going to be bigger — just my instinct — and they had the chance to call up the National Guard three days before Jan. 6, and if they did, Jan. 6 would have been a very different day,” Trump said. “But they didn’t do it.”

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    Paul Gauguin Harbour scene, Dieppe 1883   • Borrell: The EU Is A Garden, The Rest Of The World Is A Jungle (RT) • Borrell: West Will ‘Annihilate’
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle October 15 2022]

    #118477
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Kanye West de-personed, de-banked. I’ve never been happier. At least attacking him they reveal their essential racism, adherence to the glorious revolution, and will alert black and minority peoples to take cover and prepare. (for the attack by Communists and “garden people”) Leaving Chase to have an open field on shooting White Karens, I guess. I mean, not like they didn’t know too, but they were in FAVOR of harassing and erasing prominent black men.

    “Epstein was permitted to hold funds at JPMorgan Chase despite an ongoing pedophile ring trial. Bernie Madoff banked with JPMorgan Chase. The same bank took direct action in World War II to aid the Nazis. Chase bank issued Rückwanderer marks so that American Nazi sympathizers could buy German marks for a discount. Those funds were mainly stolen from Jews who fled Germany as antisemitism was on the rise. Let’s not forget former President Franklin D. Roosevelt placed a freeze on German assets in the US at that time, which is another topic. Chase bank funneled Third Reich assets through South America to avoid FDR’s ruling.

    PayPal released an internal memo earlier in the week stating that they were considering fining users $2,500 for “misinformation””

    “The same banks that fund pedophiles and actual Nazis can discard your funds if they personally disagree with you.” –Armstrong

    Conclusion: Nazi = Good. Free speech = Bad.

    “China Conducting ‘Race-Baiting’ Social Media Campaigns To Polarize Americans: Former CIA Officer”

    No—what??? So. Surprised. Is that like their mass importing of Fentanyl in the new Opium Wars?

    Well, yesterday’s skinny was Nancy Pelosi wrapping up the Jan 6 hearings with a smile and a bow. Gifting the election, after holding citizens in cages without charges for 2 years. What’s up, pussycat? Well, a home video, by her daughter, where Jan 6 is rollin’ and she says “Trespassing is just what I’ve been waiting for.”

    Huh. Interesting reaction. Not “I Drank Wut?” Not “Where’s my security detail?” Not “Gosh what a coincidence I demanded my daughter be filming all day today.” Nope. Just, “Finally!!!” Finally what? Not protesting, not stabbing, not shooting, not rioting, not invading, not coup-ing. Doesn’t “Trespassing” seem awfully specific? So she specifically expected trespassing and specifically had a camera crew and specifically NOT her security detail?

    …And then didn’t leave? Wait, wait: Pelosi as Speaker is EXPRESSLY IN CHARGE OF ALL D.C. AND CAPITAL SECURITY. So…she expected trespassers and did…nothing? Against the specific written advice of the President?

    Meanwhile, back in the AOC Batcave… A man storms in, breathless. AOC hiding feverishly under her desk. “Where is She??? Where is that Congresswoman?!?!?!” Oh wait: it was only the Capitol Police. “…And she DID die” as Shel Silverstein would say. But no, she was evacuated although the Jan 6 rioters killed her.

    One thing: She cowered in fear of her life HOURS before there was any riot…anywhere. Almost before Trump started speaking, miles away. Funny she seems to have had the same amazing prescience and premonition as Mrs. Pelosi: that there would be a Capital trespass, a riot even, at this exact time and location. According to her. Huh.

    But I am a coincidence theorist and neither times nor facts nor statements whether spoken or written can convince me anything is wrong.

    Another amazing misunderstanding. I’m sure if there were anything to it, NPR and HuffPo would report.

    Nancy Pelosi. “I’ve been waiting for this.”

    Yes, we bet you have. And next sentence is you were going to use it to attack a sitting president. …Go on. Don’t let me stop you.

    “US-Saudi Relationship ‘Likely Unrecoverable’: Expert”

    An “Expert” who is a year behind the times. Saudi signed with Russia and the SCO when? And the U.S. has killed how many Yemeni civilians for them since then? Hey, what’s the battle cry of the Saudi Military? “Onward Christian Soldier.”

    “Anti-Oil Environmentalists Deface $85 Million Van Gogh Painting”

    Two little girls have more balls than the men. At least they’re doing something.

    “Federal Government Extends COVID-19 Public Health Emergency”

    Joe says “Covid is over”. Which is why the emergency powers never will be.

    Elon on the list: Wow, as I said, there is no end to zealots and ideological purity. Win the war for them, don’t care! You used a wrong pronoun and are on the kill list now. Leftist with duct tape will be arriving at the Supreme Court Justice’s house shortly.

    “Borrell: The EU Is a Garden, The Rest of the World Is a Jungle (RT) “

    Wow, I haven’t heard “White Man’s Burden” to bring civilization to child-like jungle bunnies put so eloquently for a long time. Hey, Mr. Borrell: challenge you to a list of wars and numbers killed, garden vs jungle. Whaddya say? And I’ll even ignore India!

    “Borrell: West Will ‘Annihilate’ Russian Army If Moscow Uses Nukes (Antiwar)”

    Proving he’s both dumb AND racist (but I repeat myself), and Borrell thinks Russia will just sit around and say “Thank you sir” if the EU (actually their paid bully, the U.S. –they don’t have an army) nuke the entire Russian army. They’ll just sit around, borders open? I’d say these guys are dangerous, but the broadest mass of people follow along, nod their heads, and believe it to. Push that button! Light ‘em up!

    I exaggerate?

    “we delegated our security to the United States. While the cooperation with the Biden Administration is excellent, and the transatlantic relationship has never been as good as it is today”

    That is, Europe will fight anyone, everyone, down to the last West Virginian, and Biden takes orders directly from Davos – I mean Europe. Borrell never crosses his mind anything about America’s people or benefit here, any costs we incur or bear, any people or opportunities we sacrifice. Why should they? America has all these jungle darkies amirite? They expressly said they can’t foregive student loans or the cannon fodder won’t flow out of the Philly ghettos. Oh yes, he makes me dizzy with hostility. How can people not see this widely? There’s barely two men shouting at AOC in Brooklyn for voting for full nuclear war.

    What would have happened with Orange Man? We were withdrawing our worldwide colonial army and making Europe fight their own stupid wars for once. So the war would have never happened because NATO wouldn’t be cocky, and wouldn’t be expanding. Or did his – what? – 5 peace deals not teach you that? Nope! Never happened. OMB.

    “EU Opens Probe into Vaccine Deals (RT) “

    Oh! A Probe! Into whether it was illegal to purchase 1B doses for a mere 300M customers. 3 per person when we already know they will and must be perfectly useless, as the substrain would absolutely change by then. So: Corporation says “Sack the people! Drain the Treasury! We’ve never put out a functional drug yet and are going under!” (Moderna). The government then says “Yes sir! How many, sir?” How did you do the sale? I just said so. No paperwork, no discussion, no records, no contracts.

    How can people not see this widely? …But this is not a jungle. This is the finest, cleanest, most orderly garden. Van der Lyden is but a delicate little flower.

    “Moscow claimed that [Bucha] was fabricated to justify breaking off the talks.”

    No wonder. It was the dumbest fabrication ever, but there was that Bellingcat, OPCW, sniff-the-backpack, garden hose incident in Syria. That one is hard to beat.

    “the end of a financial system that benefits the “Golden billion” – who “live at the expense of others”

    But these are the wee little hothouse flowers. The Garden. …And he’s quite right, MOST of Europe, like MOST of the U.S. are savaged in hardship and despair. It’s only just the 1% of the 1% of “The Garden” that are golden. Or are the Polish, the Basque, the rural Yellow Vests living it up in towns without hospitals? How’s Blackpool going? Still “white with hunger?”

    Merkel signing Russian pipelines is interesting. Who was she working for? But you have to understand of course they NEED the pipelines. That was never the point, they were always and only going to burn Russian gas. The point was that GERMANY — that is Davos — would have regime-changed and controlled Russia by then. With Navalny. Wow, does that say how low the bar for Random Guidos is now, and how retarded hothouse flowers get when never exposed to the weather?

    Even right now, they demand regime change. And if they got in, with no pipeline, how would they consume all Russia’s wealth like locusts? By having pre-built the pipeline to (Western) Europe. F’ the Eastern States.

    So careful what chess pieces we think were lined up under Merkel. They were planning the war then, with attempts to get off (Russian) carbon for a bit, then kill all their useless carbon-users the day before.

    “German Leaders Care More about NATO Than Their Own People – Putin (RT)”

    Not exactly. The German leaders – like all leaders, including Biden and Blinken – work for Davos. That means they don’t care about any of the people at all. They would like to kill them, and actively do so by the thousands each day. NATO is the standing army of Davos. But most of that is the United States, since Europe is broke and incompetent, and a U.S.-only army is a problem. The Pentagon won’t sign up and has left them twisting in the wind, without nukes and incapable of starting WWIII. The war therefore runs through the Congress/Private/CIA side, which also lacks a proper army. The provocations are a dumb attempt to draw the American PEOPLE into the war. …The war we die of on behalf of Europe, or more specifically, Davos, getting less than nothing for our pain.

    “Russia ‘To Repair Crimea Bridge Damage by July 2023’ (RT)”

    Did find out a fact about the Crimea Bridge. It is strategic, because Russia moves the military “exclusively” by rail. …Russian gauge rail. Meaning it’s nearly impossible to move beyond the Ukie border. But that rail means supporting Crimea via the bridge rail too, as rail lines are few and unable to hide.

    “Putin Reveals Threat to Istanbul Grain Deal (RT)”

    Meh. The bigger threat was, none of the grain went to poor countries or allies. It was all stolen by white Europe. Biggest set of racists on the planet.

    “In other words you insist on short-cutting the process because it is your expressed intent to cheat!”

    As with pretty much everything, these days. And who’s the cheater? The one who just lets them?

    “Grandma Survived the Depression” …because she didn’t spend “money”. On Netflix and iPhones.

    #118478
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Borrell is a clown.

    So are the rest of the Eurotardistan ‘leadership’.

    Their destiny awaits them.

    His garden analogy for Eurotardistan being a garden was perfection.

    The only thing missing was saying that the ‘Jungle Bunnies” were going to eat the ‘Garden’ to the ground.

    Sweet.

    .

    YES, IT”S MADE FROM ACTUAL CLOWNS!

    #118479
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Borrell: ‘Propaganda Is Our Battlefield’ (ZH)

    Yes

    Because on an actual battlefield you will be ground into luncheon meat.

    .

    #118480
    zerosum
    Participant

    Where did it go?

    A gov of the people, by the people, for the people

    The enemy of the people are the leaders –

    We’re Coming For You


    We’re Coming For You

    Tulsi Gabbard identified lately as “an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness.” She got that exactly right, and at exactly the right moment in history, too.

    the simple fact that a sinking middle-class, whose destruction you engineered, can’t afford to buy any kind of car anymore, whatever way it’s powered.
    ————
    The term “quiet quitting” refers to employees who put no more effort into their jobs than absolutely necessary.
    A 2022 Gallup survey suggested that at least half of the U.S. workforce consists of quiet quitters.

    However, skeptics question those numbers and whether quiet quitting is a new trend or simply a trendy new name for worker dissatisfaction.
    Work to rule

    Lost “work ethics”
    the principle that hard work is intrinsically virtuous or worthy of reward
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    “White Man’s Burden”
    “White Man’s Burden” (1899) proposes that the white race is morally obliged to civilise the non-white peoples

    noblesse oblige
    in English the meaning that nobility extends beyond mere entitlement, requiring people who hold such status to fulfill social responsibilities.

    white supremacy
    the belief that white people constitute a superior race and should therefore dominate society, typically to the exclusion or detriment of other racial and ethnic groups, in particular black or Jewish people.

    Nazism
    – a form of socialism featuring racism and expansionism and obedience to a strong leader

    Racista person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized:

    synonyms:
    bigot · racialist · xenophobe · chauvinist · fascist · Nazi · anti-Semite · discriminatory · prejudiced · bigoted · intolerant · anti-black · anti-Semitic
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    Stop crying in your milk.
    “Grandma Survived the Depression”

    When she was young and raising a clutch of kids.

    While raising a family, I survived the 70′, and 80′ which was worse than today’s problems,
    I’m prepared for tomorrow.
    ———–

    #118481

    the Calvin comic reminds me of lieutenant Dan in Forrest Gump.

    #118482
    Armenio Pereira
    Participant

    “Borrell: The EU Is A Garden, The Rest Of The World Is A Jungle (RT)”

    So, should the migrants heading towards the EU be treated as an invasive species?

    #118483
    Noirette
    Participant

    Borrel is a complete idiot. He hasn’t a clue about what is going on, or even what he is talking about. He merely spouts slogans and supposed conclusions of ‘analysis’ and none of them make any sense.

    One snip from links at top post,

    Clearly, today, we have to find new ways for energy from inside the European Union, as much as we can, because we should not change one dependency for another. The best energy is the one that you produce at home. That will produce a strong restructuring of our economy – that is for sure. People are not aware of that but the fact that Russia and China are no longer the ones that [they] were for our economic development will require a strong restructuring of our economy.
     
    Garbled idiocies. He is cognitively challenged, seriously. I’m not cherry-picking some ‘glitch’ … He falls into the ‘useful idiots’ category or the ‘end times’ figures…

    What is disquieting, or, correction, highly alarming, is that stupidos like this occupy front stage, how did that happen? There is really very little push-back, for now.

    #118484
    zerosum
    Participant

    Germany´s failing ´stored´ nat-gas & LNG experiment


    Germany´s failing ´stored´ nat-gas & LNG experiment

    Q: What will/can Russia do with all the nat gas that it cannot ship to EU

    #118485
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Zero sum:
    Nazism
    – a form of socialism featuring racism and expansionism and obedience to a strong leader

    I don’t find that definition to be accurate.

    (1) other than utilizing the word “socialism” in the name of the Nazi Party, it didn’t adhere to *any* of the then-current or historical trends and philosophies of socialism. (At the time, socialism had split into 2 camps, the socialists and communists. Socialists wanted to reach socialism’s traditional goals through normal governmental processes, while communists favored taking over the government via revolution to achieve traditional goals of socialism — there was a lot of awareness that the French Revolution was seen as the turning point of capitalism in continental Europe, and many thus believed that a major economic restructuring could therefore only be achieved through bloody revolution.) The Nazi Party was not interested in traditional goals of socialism and, in fact, hunted down actual socialists and actual communists (i.e. members of those political parties and movements,) imprisoning and/or executing them.

    (2) “Racism,” “expansionism,” and “obedience to a strong leader,” were all symptoms of the new method of government that burst onto the scene in the early decades of the 20th century, namely, totalitarianism. They were all components of Stalin’s USSR as well (although, the USSR’s expansionism was toned down by comparison — it held a vast region already, was invaded multiple times early on in its existence, but, oh, did it ever hold onto those “Eastern Bloc” countries after WWII.)

    I suggest that it is important to name a spade a spade: calling Nazism “socialism” muddies the waters with the multiplicity of definitions and ideas that have existed about socialism in the past couple hundred years, and causes people to not clearly comprehend exactly what Nazism *is*. And it is my belief that a wide, general understanding of totalitarianism is very important going forward, as the 21st century is flirting audaciously with variants of 20th century totalitarianism.

    #118486
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Grandma Survived The Great Depression. Posted on Wallsteetsilver.
    Oh the irony!

    #118487
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Nazi Party was not interested in traditional goals of socialism and, in fact, hunted down actual socialists and actual communists

    sigh. sure, sure. And if you were an Arian sect member in late antiquity, you would use language such as “The Catholics were not interested in traditional goals of Christianity and, in fact, hunted down actual Christians”

    And you’d say that if you were an Arian, a Paulician, a Nestorian, an Eastern Orthodox believer, etc.

    There’ are some great educational videos by youtuber TIK explaining this, for example:

    —-Hitler’s Socialism | Destroying the Denialist Counter Arguments
    —-National Socialism WAS Socialism | Rethinking WW2 History

    Consider, if you will, The Crusades. The Crusaders viewed Saladin as an incredibly formidable foe, both as a leader and a fighter They also saw him as a great cultured, honorable, chivalrous gentleman. Somehow, the supposedly full-on evil Europeans of the time held up Saladin throughout the European continent as a paragon of virtue.

    Or consider that the Crusaders and the Saracens managed to ally against the Mongols.

    Consider instead the religious wars in Europe between Catholics and Protestants. Look up something called “Swedish Drink,” for instance. One of countless savageries. You don’t see that type of deliberate repeated over the top awfulness in the Crusades. Surely the looting, pillaging etc you see in every medieval war, but not THAT.

    Why were Christians more savage to each other than to the Saracens of a different religion altogether?

    Because nothing inspires revulsion and rage so much as blasphemy FROM WITHIN your belief.

    So you told us “They couldn’t be socialists, because NAZIs hunted down “The” Socialists”

    Translation “They couldn’t be socialists, because the socialists hunted down the socialists”

    Were the Communists in charge of the USSR not Communists? Did they not hunt down every Trostkyist Communist they could find even in other countries?

    Nothing fills the faithful with more rage than blasphemy and heresy

    The predominant Socialist movement to this day is INTERNATIONALIST Socialism. They have become so dominant and strident now that if someone thinks there should be ANY limit to crossing borders, if someone suggests ANY concern to protect working class American jobs or bring some jobs back for working class Americans, the cries of outraged accusation that, in code, or outright, mean “NAZI!!!” are immediate and deafening?

    But wasn’t the working class supposed to be central to the socialist position? You see the hierarchy of values revealed. INTERNATIONALISM is the holier value.

    So different sects broke off. Like the Catholic Church, one became a big winner. Now, having won, ANYTHING smacking of nationalism deserves unreasoning rage. And of course, a continual distancing from that other sect of the same religion is essential.

    And of course it is important to make distinctions between the two meanings of “socialist.”

    As an adjective, meaning “socialistic” I suppose, there are quite a few left-leaning people who would say that programs to humanize society can be helpful and are desirable. But these are not socialists and are not in favor of Socialist policy. They just think yes, it is reasonable to have some socialistic measures. Surely. SOME educational measures, help for out of work workers, etc, CAN be a net value add for society and we can therefore afford it where it is EFFECTIVE.

    Ask a SOCIALIST

    “at what point do you have the right amount of Socialism?”

    “What do you mean?”

    “Well, you know, like, at what point will the mix of private/capitalist and socialist/government stuff reach its perfect balance?”

    “I’d like to say something evasive right now and pretend to not understand your question”

    “Well ok, let me put it like this. At what point would you draw a line in the sand and fight to stop FURTHER adoption of socialist methods?”

    “Is that the Space Shuttle over there?”

    Open Borders is INTERNATIONALISM. Try having THIS conversation.

    “What would you say is the optimal maximum population for the US and what would be the optimal influx of new people per year”

    “I’d really like to be evasive right now”

    “well, ok. Let me make it simpler. Is 3 million per year a good number? What about 1 million? What are the advantages to that?”

    “I’d really like to be evasive right now”

    “Well, ok, what if we cut to the chase here and move all 8 billion people within the borders of the US. Would you be happy then? Everyone here and no one not here finally?”

    “pshaw pshaw that’s silly”

    “but IF YOU COULD, would you be satisfied at that point vis a vis open borders?”

    “oh but I only want people who DESIRE to come to the US to have free ACCCCEEESSSSS”

    “OH. Well there are 4 billion super poor people who definitely want to come. What if we increase the population of the US by 4 billion, would that suit you? 3 billion? 2 billion? Why not? So it’s only because of physical limits to logistics, but otherwise you would? No? Why not?”

    Any explanation given on why that amount is NOT what they want (and ask for it if they don’t give it) can just lead to a lower absurd figure. I guarantee the conversation will NEVER drop to a non-absurd number. (“…so you concede there are limits for specific rational reasons?”) It will always be stopped before that point.

    How much socialism is too much socialism? How much internationalism is too much internationalism?

    The main thing isn’t to solve problems for poor and working class people pragmatically

    It is to hopefully, finally, perfectly make everyone adhere to certain holy truths. They are NOT to be understood as real people in real places doing real things.

    And the end result is always the working class being made miserable and terrified while a few people ride around in limos eating caviar occasionally purging and murdering each other out of paranoia and ambition.

    The King of Persia in 500 BC would recognize the old, OLD primitive system they adopt. And when a socialist would unleash a deluge of cutting edge word salad theory on him, he would wait until they were spent, and then, with a twinkle in his eye, respond, “Ah yes. I use religion to legitimize my reign as well.”

    #118488
    zerosum
    Participant

    “White Man’s Burden”, noblesse oblige, white supremacy, Nazism, Racist, etc

    Its all about how our rulers are using expressions to justify their ” right to rule” our social/economic systems, (the sheep).
    The discussion got diverted by jb-hb and phoenixvoice.

    #118489
    willem
    Participant

    Lots of chatter these days about immigration all over the Western world. TPTB seem intent on facilitating it to the maximum, pressing on despite significant opposition to the policy from the general public in most countries. They keep shoving in more and more of the world’s destitute. Here in the US we are certainly doing our share since “Biden” took over.

    One has to ask–why? The usual explanations are either 1) cheap labor or 2) creating voters for the party that believes it can gain from such a strategy. But after due consideration, I believe that the real reason is the simple strategy of filling up Western society with people who have relatively low expectations.

    TPTB are planning to take away the last few remaining punch bowls from the general population (in the name of their own greed, saving the planet, as necessitated by planetary resource exhaustion, or some combination thereof, or whatever). When we start moving into this phase (I believe quite soon now), those who are coming from wretchedness will still consider themselves much better off, and will be the natural allies of TPTB.

    #118490
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Its all about how our rulers are using expressions to justify their ” right to rule” our social/economic systems, (the sheep).
    The discussion got diverted by jb-hb and phoenixvoice.

    And the end result is always the working class being made miserable and terrified while a few people ride around in limos eating caviar occasionally purging and murdering each other out of paranoia and ambition.

    The King of Persia in 500 BC would recognize the old, OLD primitive system they adopt. And when a socialist would unleash a deluge of cutting edge word salad theory on him, he would wait until they were spent, and then, with a twinkle in his eye, respond, “Ah yes. I use religion to legitimize my reign as well.”

    you thought I further DIVERTED the discussion? Really?

    #118491
    zerosum
    Participant

    jb-hb

    No I finaly got it.

    “Ah yes. I use religion to legitimize my reign as well.”

    #118492
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Thank you most kindly indeed 🙂

    #118493
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    In politics does ‘left’ and ‘right’ mean anything?

    in the US :

    The left are pro police state, with censorship and personal surveillance.
    The left are against free speech.
    The left are pro-war.
    The left do not object to the accumulation of wealth by the 0.1%.
    The left are keen to do the bidding of oligarchs like Gates and Soros.
    The left are keen to promote COVID vaccines to fill the coffers of Big Pharma, even though they cause death and injury to [mostly] Democrats.

    Are they DINOs?

    I think the confusion is that politics is a wheel, so the extreme left are adjacent to the extreme right politically, with similar aims and objectives.

    According to the Collins Dictionary, fascism “is a set of right-wing political beliefs that includes strong controls of society and the economy by the state”, but communism is a set of left-wing political beliefs that includes strong controls of society and the economy by the state.

    I like the quote attributed to JK Galbraith : “Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it’s just the opposite.”

    #118494
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Watching videos of ‘world leaders’ or reading texts of the inane ranting of ‘world leaders’ reinforces how utterly corrupt and disconnected from reality, and utterly destructive so-called ‘leaders’ in ‘the West’ are.

    Here in NZ, everything the Adern government says and does is deceitful, disconnected from reality, and highly destructive: that combination of deceit, disconnection from reality, and highly level of destruction extends from central government through regional government right down to district government (governance). I have previously noted that everything the local and regional council generates as a so-called planning is utter nonsense, completely disconnected from reality, and full of neuro-linguistic programming geared to manufacturing consent for looting and polluting.

    I fully understand why this is the case. No NATOstan government is ‘of the people and for the people’: all of them are agents of international bankers and corporations; they all promote and promulgate short-term policies that benefit banks and corporations via top-down deceit and ruthlessness.

    The big question at this point of time is this: will ‘limited nuclear war’ provide the short-term benefits that the international bankers and corporations seek?

    We do know that their global Ponzi scheme has ‘run out of mathematics’, and their fake GDP scams are unravelling fast. We also know that the energy required for the NATOstan bankers and corporations to keep their various scams operational does not exist in the ‘western world’.

    The fact that ‘preparations for nuclear war’ articles are popping up all over suggests someone has a plan to do something diabolical.

    It wouldn’t be the first time, Japan 1945 and all that: a nation that was starting to starve to death and which could not get fighter planes into the sky to reduce near-constant aerial fire-bombing was selected as the target to see exactly what would happen when an atomic bomb was exploded over a city. Twice, there being two kinds of bomb to test.

    Of course, there was a degree of panic in August 1945, not because Japan was a still threat, but because the Soviet Union had defeated Nazi Germany and was about to commence an attack on the Japanese and take territory.

    So the pre-NATOstan nations had to demonstrate to the USSR what would happen to Soviet cities if the USSR didn’t play ball the right way.

    It was a bit like the bombing of Dresden in January 1945,, in which an unknown number of civilians (arguably 300,000 to 500,000) were roasted and a magnificent cultural centre smashed to smithereens, to demonstrate to the Soviets what the RAF was capable of.

    Of course, it didn’t stop there. After the initial war crime had been committed, the RAF went back with ground-attack planes and strafed anyone attempting to leave the city. And attacked the fire-fighters and rescue workers who were attempting to salvage life and property from the carnage. It took about 3 days to kill 300,000 to 500,000 civilians. Ditto Hamburg, Berlin etc.

    It all makes what has been happening in Ukraine so far look rather tame and very half-hearted.

    Of course, both Britian and America were industrial nations of considerable standing when they committed the war crimes of the Second World War.

    Not so much now. Indeed, both nations have been morphed into nations of overfed, and therefore overweigh, clowns and thieves, with imbeciles as ‘leaders’.

    On the other hand, the most advanced technological nation on the Earth has a culture of quiet determination not to be annihilated by clowns and thieves. And, as Andrei Martyanov relentlessly points out, Russia has highly trained and highly skilled technicians who have at their disposal the best weapons in the world.

    Russia’s biggest problem seems to be that there are only about 135 million Russians to defend the largest country on the planet from constant attack by agents of the money-lenders.

    On the other hand, they do have the best aeronautics and space capabilities.

    I was going to post a reminder but:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcurMl02lI8

    #118495
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    anticlimatic

    ‘In politics does ‘left’ and ‘right’ mean anything?’

    No.

    Maybe a hundred years ago there was a difference. But in recent decades (certainly since the 1980s) left and right are the same thing. Indeed, all the mainstream political parties in NATOstan nations are owned by the moneylenders, and all promote the unsustainable, counterproductive, and destructive policies of the money-lenders.

    #118496
    willem
    Participant

    AFKTT: “The fact that ‘preparations for nuclear war’ articles are popping up all over suggests someone has a plan to do something diabolical.”

    I tend to believe that if actual nuclear war was (intentionally) in the cards, the ground would probably not be laid with advance advertising–it would just get dropped on our heads unannounced. More likely this is some kind of scare campaign, similar to the “mass die-offs” we were promised in the wake of Covid’s march across the planet. Both intended to get the public to do something or accept something, but in themselves not a reflection of actual happening.

    #118497
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    “Lots of chatter these days about immigration all over the Western world. TPTB seem intent on facilitating it to the maximum, pressing on despite significant opposition to the policy from the general public in most countries. … One has to ask–why?”

    I remember writing about this years ago, and nothing that has happened since then has changed my answer: I believe that the cheap labor provided by western immigration policies is an obvious, but secondary motive that is only enjoyed by certain business interests. It may even be a tertiary motive, as the third-world hordes added to western voting rolls may allow globalists to better control election outcomes, and further their goals for a CBDC UBI surveillance and control strategy.

    I still think the primary goal is to weaken nationalism in preparation for their one-world global government. Uncontrolled immigration induces chaos and stress, dilutes the root culture, and creates division. Unity among the ruled masses is the thing that the elites fear the most.

    #118498
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Sorry, Europeans cannot ‘go out into the jungle’ again. They did it between 1492 and 1992. And they cut down most of the jungle to make pianos, bookcases, piles for piers, ships, warehouses, crates for tea etc. and to make way for monoculture plantations. They also stole a large portion of the gold, silver, diamonds, oil etc. that lay beneath the jungle to build their places and manicured gardens.

    Many things can only be done once. Emptying the oil and gas reserves that were under the North Sea to fuel an orgy of overconsumption in the 1980s to early 2000s is a good example.

    Emptying the Ogalala Aquifer to grow crops in semi-deserts is another.

    #118499
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    The environmental and energetic catastrophe of Industrial Agriculture and overpopulation and fiat currencies is coming to its natural crisis point in the Netherlands (and elsewhere).

    It’s a no-win predicament. And the unelected bureaucrats will grind on with their agenda.

    Poor people and [politically] powerless people are to be driven off the cliff first.

    #118500
    willem
    Participant

    @MaxwellQuest: I agree, and had forgotten all about that particular motive, which I think is perhaps even better than the one I wrote about earlier.

    #118501
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    willem

    ‘I tend to believe that if actual nuclear war was (intentionally) in the cards, the ground would probably not be laid with advance advertising–it would just get dropped on our heads unannounced. More likely this is some kind of scare campaign, similar to the “mass die-offs” we were promised in the wake of Covid’s march across the planet. Both intended to get the public to do something or accept something, but in themselves not a reflection of actual happening.’

    It is said that TTATT always flag their intentions.

    Thus, the fake covid emergency and fake covid jabs were flagged by telling people there would be massive die-off due to covid, whereas the actual massive die-off is due to the jabs.

    Who can say? We are not privy to the machinations and secret deals of the maniacs who pretend to be in change.

    There is the phenomenon of hyper-normalisation, whereby that which is diabolical becomes made ‘normal’ by constant repetition of propaganda, designed to make the absurd become normal in the eyes of the masses. That is one of the main reasons we are in this monstrous collective predicament. The masses believe the lies.

    I recall how immediately after 9/11 the mainstream media played shots of buildings collapsing almost every hour, on the hour for a week, and shortly after the demolition job was completed, the shots were accompanied by George Bush spouting nonsense about a “War on Terror”, the US being the biggest terrorist nation on the planet. 🙁

    All I know for sure is that when the system is fundamentally mathematically flawed (as it most certainly is) and is totally dependent on constant promotion of utterly absurd propaganda to maintain itself, the system has a very short life expectancy.

    #118502
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    The true nature of Ukraine and the lies surrounding it are exposed yet again:

    #118503
    Bishko
    Participant

    As scary it is beginning to look out there, and I have been preparing for years, I have some doubts as to the likelihood of a full blown nuclear war.

    The people behind the scenes who are really in control of everything don’t want their world to be radioactive. They are all people of leisure and comfort and I guarantee that they think of this world as “theirs”. I’m sure they all have their own high tech bunkers but I doubt that they want to spend months or years underground just for the sake of a great reset. They still want some kind of economy around for someone to raise their hanger steaks and collect their caviar. If the world is destroyed their money would be worthless and their future would be more uncomfortable than they would tolerate, so I can imagine that they will pull all the levers and press all the buttons to keep it from going full on nuclear.

    I can, however, see how this could easily be used as a new hobgoblin to get the masses to demand safety regardless of their lost liberties. It has already been used to funnel hundreds of billions into unknown hands.

    #118504
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Reading Josep Borrell’s words reminds me of Kamala Harris, maybe they are related.

    #118505
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Reading Josep Borrell’s words reminds me of Kamala Harris, maybe they are related.

    #118506
    slimyalligator
    Participant

    Bishko at #118503.

    I can, however, see how this could easily be used as a new hobgoblin to get the masses to demand safety regardless of their lost liberties. It has already been used to funnel hundreds of billions into unknown hands.

    Good comment, thank you

    #118507
    aspnaz
    Participant

    phoenixvoice said

    other than utilizing the word “socialism” in the name of the Nazi Party, it didn’t adhere to *any* of the then-current or historical trends and philosophies of socialism.

    Really, so they called themselves socialists just to throw us off the scent? Their big/huge government, inherent in all socialist ambitions, did not adhere to *any* of the … trends and philosophies of socialism? Their micro-management of people, such as the Jews, was not big government, was not where historically all socialist governments, whether communist or fascist, end up? In addition, they killed millions of Jews – if you believe that story – which is in keeping with all communist governments who love to kill their bad people in huge numbers, whether they be intellectuals or political rivals. Seems to me they had more in common with socialism than with any other political bent, their name was accurate.

    #118508
    aspnaz
    Participant

    The EU Is A Garden, The Rest Of The World Is A Jungle

    Very interesting statement as it accurately states that, where possible, nature has been cleared away in Europe and replaced with man-managed nature where plants are granted good or bad status depending on … not sure how gardeners decide what is an evil weed and what is a garden plant. Maybe this is what Borrell is trying to get at, that places like New Zealand – south island is much more beautiful than all but very few locations in Europe – is not a garden because it has not all been cleared (yes, they cleared lots of it) and is not under his control: Borrell the gardener. He cannot be talking about natural beauty because Europe does not have a lot of natural beauty: the green fields of England or Germany look nice (in a monoculture sort of way) and are all garden, managed nature, not wild, real nature where plants compete for space etc. Reading his words I realised that he is partially right, Europe is a garden. Where he is wrong is in describing the rest of the world – where the beautiful parts of the world still exist – as a jungle: a lot of the world is not jungle, it too has been cleared and is managed by its own Borrells. What I take away from this is that we should stop gardening Europe and let nature take it over again. Maybe the energy crisis will achieve that.

    #118509
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    The EU IS a garden and most of the people are regarded as weeds. Only the favoured are nurtured and the rest are only fit for compost or burning.

    #118510
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.esmmagazine.com/supply-chain/ukraine-completes-2022-wheat-barley-harvest-ministry-222881
    Ukraine Completes 2022 Wheat, Barley Harvest: Ministry
    October 10, 2022 6:58 AM
    The world is heading toward the tightest grain inventories in years despite the resumption of exports from Ukraine, as the shipments are too few and harvests from other major crop producers are smaller than initially expected, according to grain supply and crop forecast data from September.

    Ukraine 2023 Early Grain Harvest Could Drop By At Least 50%

    Droughts, Ukraine War Push Global Grain Stocks Toward Decade Low

    #118511
    Polemos
    Participant

    If you read Hannah Arendt’s analysis in The Human Condition, one of the points she makes concerns the suppression of the political realm via the social realm: the advent of mass communication and an industrial technology to support very large numbers of humans —hundreds of millions in a compressed region— changes individual agency into absolute numerical supremacy. The collective social organism wrests culture and focus away from individual, self-driven agency, and what was once a clear and valuable distinction between the public role and the private life blurs into what we now know as total, pervasive surveillance. In this sense, “socialism” is not so much a specific set of dogmas related to the control and ownership of communal properties or economic capital, but a recognition of the supremacy of the social realm over the political life.

    There is no politician today in any “elected” office who does not refer to their mandate on behalf of the people. This is her point. “The people” have one. The deme acts as the smallest unit of political life, and thus the social realm dominates over the possibilities one person’s political act might have been. All the totalitarians today talk about “democracy” not because they are being deceptive or mendacious with their language. They are expressing the contemporary version of the Hobbesian point: the totalitarian political machine is driven by the collective consciousness of the people, with the “face” or the “personation” of the King spread among the bureaucrats who instantiate the reality of that machine in action. Corporations, being a collective activity orchestrating its smaller fractal units through social functions and mechanisms, are the smallest unit of contemporary political activity.

    At one point, I was an unstructor (a handy typo, I’ll run with it) teaching introduction to philosophy classes. The classes were unlike other classes around, because I’m not a conventional sort of person and philosophy is just not a conventional sort of thing. What I showed for my students was something I do not often see shown in Orwell’s 1984, but it is something that is plainly there. There is no such thing as a singular Totalitarian mindset. By that, I mean, there is nobody “at the top.” The pyramid is intentionally left unfinished because there is no such thing as Big Brother. If you’re unfamiliar with the book —and especially the book-within-the-book, that is the book (or, if you will, say it in Greek)— you might at least remember the slogans War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength. If you are a neurotypical person, you’re supposed to laugh at the contradictions and think it’s ludicrous for anyone not to notice the paradoxes. The Party, on the other hand, structures its own society —three tiers, remember: proles, Outer and Inner— with each “layer” of this pyramidal structure being itself the living embodiment of one of these slogans. The proles are ignorant; that ignorance is what gives them the strength to endure the depravity, the bombings, the filth, the exploitation, the meaninglessness of their lives. The Outer Party wrestles in its daily life with their freedom; advancing inward one must do away with any genuine freedom, because the appearance of freedom by following one’s desire is an enslavement to the satisfaction of that desire and not to the boundless freedom inherent to being the Party’s precious Slave. (Go all the way back to Augustine, to Marcus Aurelius, to Buddha, to Arjuna, to the Heart of what it means to do away with desire and find the hidden secret beyond love and hate, and you will see). The Inner Party, wreckless psychopaths fully in control and fully in obedience, are completely at peace with one another because they are perpetually locked in an endless war with one another, because each of them understands the larger scope of the greater war of their multipolar world requires each of them to perfect their warring against the other members of the Inner Party so that the ultimate peace —the chaotic dance of stillness in a placid pond, the Brownian motion of endless movement and the flatness of its solitude— obtains. But what most people forget, and forget that they forget if they actually bother to read it, is how Winston, led by O’Brien (the Son of the Lord, etymologically), comes to the Fourth Slogan all on his own, to the slogan that obtains at the highest level where Big Brother resides —the open top of the pyramid of social structure:God is Power.

    The thing is, most people forget this part of the narrative, if they read it, because for such people, this is not a paradox. It’s not a thing they have learned to deny. It is an implicit dream still resonating in all that they do. It is there, in Winston, and it is why, despite all that he thinks he is doing to resist the process of falling in love with GodBig Brother, it is inevitable that every Winston will. People want to hold onto the belief that enough power, whether it is the power to vote, the power to change things, the power to force others, the power to make the world great again, the power to do anything, is enough to accomplish what needs accomplishing. It is the root for all of the totalitarians. It is the root for all the fascisms. It is the root for all the collectives. It is the root for all of the religions. It is the root for all the magical spells people invoke thinking they are going to alter the course and flow of karma, just enough, for once enough, O please!, just this once, mygodohgodplease, in this life do not let me die. It is the root for the people who want the jabs to stop. It is the root for the people who want the jabs to continue. It is the root for the people who want the land to grow good food. It is the root for the people who want to steal the good food off the shelf. It is the root for the father holding his dying little girl in his arms. It is the root for the doctor who wanted to help her live. It is the root for the oil tycoon amassing his fortune. It is the root for the guy gassing up his truck to head into work. All of the root for the fruits of the tree that grows wide and branches off into the limitless unending sky, this paradox: —God is Power.

    Wipe it away, what you read. Unlearn what you have seen. It’s unimportant. Don’t think about it. I’m a crank, an imbecile, a monkey with a thousand keyboards and a computer for a brain. What do I know?

    All I did was observe a thing, and had a clue, that Orwell knew more about what’s going on in the Book, about how it changes the way people think about what’s important about their lives, because it encourages them to believe there is more to life than death, and more to death than life, but it never actually teaches anyone to understand how to unwork the conviction of the paradox and helps them stop seeing God as all-powerful or seeing power as making one godlike. Arendt, in her own way, makes this case: Sputnik and metal computational machines that patted people on the head (and now thumbs up with likes their dopaminergic pathways) made people think they had become as god, able to place their own Walkers in the Sky. And now you have a whole night full of them, Links to the Stars, casting down bolts upon dolts and leaving holes where people once stood,

    The one who would have you holds out a hand with all the power in the world he has to offer you, and you will take it if you think it can give you just a moment to live on, forever. But if you are wise, you know these are lies, because we all signed up to die. If you have no fear, the rats can eat you, and you’ll know it was all worth it. Love is worth it. She is worth it. Anyone else, is worth it. Pay your own price. Don’t accept any other stand in. Nail yourself on your own cross, build it if you have to. The test is clear. Don’t take any power. Don’t take any other path. Have no other gods, no powers. Let yourself go like water down the hill, like leaves in the wind, like clouds irradiated by dead stars at night, but be wise.

    I don’t know what I’m saying, but I’ll leave it at that. I have a lot to learn.

    #118512
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Nuclear weapons with much lower TNT equivalence than the Hiroshima bomb and with a very much higher TNT equivalence are available.

    The bombs dropped over Hiroshima and Nagasaki were very ‘dirty’ for their size. Despite the local carnage, Japan remained habitable.

    One needs to understand the difference between fission and fusion.

    The biggest bomb ever detonated did not bring life-as-we-know-it to a standstill. Indeed, few people even noticed it had been detonated because [as far as I know] it was detonated off the coast of northern Russia.

    Atomic bombs compared to Hydrogen bombs (thermonuclear weapons)

    Uses for lithium other than in batteries:

    ‘Li-6 is a source of tritium for nuclear fusion, through low-energy nuclear fission’

    https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/current-and-future-generation/lithium.aspx

    #118513
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    polemos

    Thank you. Very interesting.

    ‘Nail yourself on your own cross, build it if you have to.’

    Been there. Done that. Much was revealed.

    #118514
    aspnaz
    Participant

    willem said

    One has to ask–why? The usual explanations are either 1) cheap labor or 2) creating voters for the party that believes it can gain from such a strategy. But after due consideration, I believe that the real reason is the simple strategy of filling up Western society with people who have relatively low expectations.

    The aim is to eradicate or dilute your identity. In the past, being British mean’t you were a white guy with generations of white ancestors. You were raised in the white environment with a mono culture to inform your behaviour. Such nurturing breeds people closely bonded together and united in common beliefs, practices, morals etc. Destroying that mono-culture by introducing foreign cultures destroys the common culture of being British, now you would have to ask “A British Christian, Muslim, Hindu?” etc. By destroying the common culture you destroy the country from within, the one common factor for all the citizens being the government. Now the government is number one, not the church, not mosques, not football, not cricket, now the government and its multi-cultural makeup is the British government, socialist heaven.

    The word British now means nothing, you cannot predict what the “English man” will look like, he could be any colour, have any religion, with ancestors from anywhere on the globe, your culture of “English” is destroyed. That was the aim and it was successful, another victory to the socialists who want everybody to be equal yet diverse and in the process simply destroy everything in their path. Socialism has already gone down in history as the most destructive force of human kind, responsible for more deaths, more misery, more poverty than anything else humans have managed to invent, including the gun. Yet here we are with socialists still trying to destroy more of our world, in order to achieve their goal which seems to be the assassination of all other egos apart from their own.

    You may think I am esconced in this movement, living in China with a Chinese wife. China does not readily accept non Chinese residents and it is not possible to become a citizen in either mainland China or Taiwan for non-Chinese. Of course, a lot of China was occupied by the British, Germans, Dutch etc. so there are remnants of foreign influence. But foreigners are allowed into China in relatively small numbers, nowhere near enough to impact the core culture of China and certainly not enough for anybody to not know what a China man looks like. In Asia, you will always be an outsider, you will never be considered one of them, they defend their culture: some here have lived in Japan and they will confirm that there is no way you can become one of them and this actually has considerable advantages. For example, they don’t care what you think about them or their politics, you are an outsider, even the government does not care what you think as long as you don’t cause trouble: compare this to the UK where immigrants run the government.

    #118515
    willem
    Participant

    @Polemos; Long and thoughtful post, thank you.


    @aspnaz
    : I agree, esp. about China and Taiwan. I have been married to a Taiwanese woman for over 40 years now, and we have spent months at a time in Taiwan off and on over the years. I am always treated quite well and have no difficulty getting around and doing things. But despite seeing the occasional Westerner, there is always a feeling of being an outsider.

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