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Claude Monet Water lillies 1914 – 1917

 

A Panicked Empire Tries To Make Russia An ‘Offer It Can’t Refuse’ (Escobar)
Desperate Actions (Dionísio)
The War and the Future (Batiushka)
France ‘Open’ To Sending Fighter Jets To Ukraine. UK Says “Not Practical” (ZH)
House GOP Kicks Off Biden Corruption Investigations (ZH)
Gold And The Shrinking Trust Horizon (John Rubino)
Norway’s Wealth Fund Posts Heavy Losses (RT)
Buzzfeed Sacks 180 Journalists, Replaces Them With AI (RT)
The Press Versus The President, Part Two (CJR)
Twitter Makes Move That Could Take Out ‘Woke’ PayPal (TPN)
Who Will be Spared from COVID-19 Vaccine Injury? (McCullough)
Did 7.5 Million People Die From Covid Shots? (Horowitz)
Massive Mask Meta-study Undermines Remaining Covid Mandates (JTN)
How Ivermectin Kills Prostate Cancer Cells (PR)
Quantum Entanglement Just Got A Whole Lot Weirder (Siegel)

 

 

 

 

U.S. Not Prepared to take on Russia / Macgregor

 

 

 

 

Tucker Dore

 

 

Winning

 

 

Gonzalo primer

 

 

 

 

Involves the John Helmer piece we mentioned recently.

A Panicked Empire Tries To Make Russia An ‘Offer It Can’t Refuse’ (Escobar)

Realizing NATO’s war with Russia will likely end unfavorably, the US is test-driving an exit offer. But why should Moscow take indirect proposals seriously, especially on the eve of its new military advance and while it is in the winning seat? Those behind the Throne are never more dangerous than when they have their backs against the wall. Their power is slipping away, fast: Militarily, via NATO’s progressive humiliation in Ukraine; Financially, sooner rather than later, most of the Global South will want nothing to do with the currency of a bankrupt rogue giant; Politically, the global majority is taking decisive steps to stop obeying a rapacious, discredited, de facto minority. So now those behind the Throne are plotting to at least try to stall the incoming disaster on the military front.

As confirmed by a high-level US establishment source, a new directive on NATO vs. Russia in Ukraine was relayed to US Secretary of State Antony Blinken. Blinken, in terms of actual power, is nothing but a messenger boy for the Straussian neocons and neoliberals who actually run US foreign policy. The secretary of state was instructed to relay the new directive – a sort of message to the Kremlin – via mainstream print media, which was promptly published by the Washington Post. In the elite US mainstream media division of labor, the New York Times is very close to the State Department. and the Washington Post to the CIA. In this case though the directive was too important, and needed to be relayed by the paper of record in the imperial capital. It was published as an Op-Ed.

The novelty here is that for the first time since the start of Russia’s February 2022 Special Military Operation (SMO) in Ukraine, the Americans are actually proposing a variation of the “offer you can’t refuse” classic, including some concessions which may satisfy Russia’s security imperatives. Crucially, the US offer totally bypasses Kiev, once again certifying that this is a war against Russia conducted by Empire and its NATO minions – with the Ukrainians as mere expandable proxies. The Washington Post’s old school Moscow-based correspondent John Helmer has provided an important service, offering the full text of Blinken’s offer, of course extensively edited to include fantasist notions such as “US weapons help pulverize Putin’s invasion force” and a cringe-worthy explanation: “In other words, Russia should not be ready to rest, regroup and attack.”

The message from Washington may, at first glance, give the impression that the US would admit Russian control over Crimea, Donbass, Zaporozhye, and Kherson – “the land bridge that connects Crimea and Russia” – as a fait accompli. Ukraine would have a demilitarized status, and the deployment of HIMARS missiles and Leopard and Abrams tanks would be confined to western Ukraine, kept as a “deterrent against further Russian attacks.” What may have been offered, in quite hazy terms, is in fact a partition of Ukraine, demilitarized zone included, in exchange for the Russian General Staff cancelling its yet-unknown 2023 offensive, which may be as devastating as cutting off Kiev’s access to the Black Sea and/or cutting off the supply of NATO weapons across the Polish border.

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RAND Corp.

Desperate Actions (Dionísio)

Something is changing on Mount Olympus and it is leaving in tatters the union of tendencies connected to the U.S.-state falconry. To understand and predict the actions of the political elite that commands, through their transnational mandataries, our destinies, implies knowing what one of the most important US defense think tanks reflects and publishes. This research leads us to an entity that rarely appears in the “informative” moments of the North Atlantic press: the RAND Corporation. RAND’s best-known moment with regard to the conflict in Eastern Europe is signaled by the publication of the report “Extending Russia – Competing from Advantageous Ground”. This report contains the entire menu of malfeasance that, in the claims made public and repeated by the US power summit, would lead to a fulminating defeat of the political, economic, and military power of the Russian Federation.

The analysis expressed publicly, by the various political actors, was that the Russian Federation was nothing more than “a gasoline bomb with nuclear weapons,” a “paper tiger” with a GDP equal to that of Holland, and a people gagged by a “mad dictator” who remained in power only through “authoritarianism” and “repression”. Based on an analysis whose information seemed to substantiate such political positions, the RAND report advocated a type of intervention, some of which were well reported – others not so well reported – in the official press. This was the case with the attempted “colored” revolutions made in CIA in Belarus, Kazakhstan, and the Central Asian countries, which, together with Georgia and Moldova, would probably be “promoted” and “supported” to the condition of an actual Ukraine.

The Russian Federation, having to meet all the fires, some because they would become proxy armies (like Ukraine), others turned into bases of destabilizing operations launched by the CIA, would eventually “extend” itself until it broke into pieces and collapsed, putting an end to the current threat. Even without this partition, a point could always be reached where, after the destruction of the incumbent political power, a more docile “regime” would be installed, pointing to a more “advantageous position on the ground.” Given to be known only in 2019, we are forced to note that this strategy had long been in preparation, especially since the Russian president lost hope that he could count on a Western “partnership” and announce the end of the unipolar world. Fact is, the report has a logical connection with the 2018 National Defense Strategy (US national defense strategy).

At any rate, this strategy points to the “Yugoslavization” of the Russian Federation. The truth is that the constant itinerary of this work has been followed almost scrupulously by the U.S. security and defense establishment: “colored” revolutions; states transformed into proxy armies; communication and disinformation campaigns; destabilization and sabotage operations; economic sanctions and embargoes. A menu of fulminating “democratic” activities on the rise! And why is it important to talk about this today? It is important because in the last few days a new paper from the RAND corporation was published, but this time in reverse, a study entitled “Avoiding a Long War U.S. Policy and the Trajectory of the Russia-Ukraine Conflict.”

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“First of all, probably within the next fifteen months, we shall see the full liberation of the Ukraine..”

The War and the Future (Batiushka)

Since the historic Special Military Operation to liberate the peoples of the Ukraine from their US puppet tyrants in Kiev began on 24 February 2022, the post-1945 settlement has been over. In fact, it should have been over with the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 or, at latest, at the dissolution of the USSR in 1991. However, the USA was blinded by its exceptionalist hubris as ‘the only Superpower’ and engaged in its latest fantasy of destroying Islam, which it mistakenly saw as a serious rival, arrogantly dismissing Russia, China and India as minor players. So, as a sectarian rogue-state, the USA began its war of terror on all who thought differently, which it so humiliatingly lost. This can be seen in the dramatic pictures of the last flights out of Kabul in 2021.

In other words, after the end of the Soviet Union, which had been born directly out of World War One and formally founded in 1922, the end of the American Union (= NATO) should have followed, and with it the end of the worldwide American Empire. Thus, today NATO is an anachronism, well past its best before date, which is why has begun meddling all over the world, from the foothills of the Himalaya to the Pacific Ocean. NATO is just like the alphabet soup of other US organisations and fronts, IMF, EU, WTO, OECD, G7, G20 and UN, with its mere five Security Council members, including minor Great Britain and France. What might await us as a result of the liberation of the Ukraine on the centenary of the 1945 settlement, in 2045?

1. After the Ukraine. First of all, probably within the next fifteen months, we shall see the full liberation of the Ukraine. With the eastern Novorossija half of the Ukraine returning to Russia, the remaining half, Central and Western Ukraine, perhaps minus Zakarpattia (returning to Hungary as an autonomous region under the Balogh brothers) and Chernivtsy (returning to Romania), will return to being Malorossija, its capital in Kiev. Thus, the way will at last be open to form the Confederation of Rus’. The at last freed East Slav lands and peoples, Eurasian Russia and the Eastern European Belarus and Malorossija, could together form such a Confederation of Rus’, with a total population of just under 200 million.

2. The Reconfiguration of Eurasia . After the Ukrainian question has been solved and the USA has lost its political, military and, above all, economic power to bully the rest of the world, all of us in Eurasia will be able to start living in our new-found Freedom and building Justice and Prosperity for all. We foresee first of all the expansion of the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU).

Wagner

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“..given training on the Abrams M1 tank could take at minimum six months, something as sophisticated as Western-made fighter jets could take years for pilots unfamiliar with their systems to get combat ready on..”

France ‘Open’ To Sending Fighter Jets To Ukraine. UK Says “Not Practical” (ZH)

Here we go again… French President Emmanuel Macron in Monday comments signaled openness to sending Ukraine advanced fighter jets, something which Kiev has broadly asked its allies for since nearly the start of the Russian invasion. “Nothing is excluded in principle,” Macron said immediately following talks with Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte when pressed by reporters about the question of fighter jets for Ukraine. The Dutch premier himself had weighed in too saying, “There is no taboo but it would be a big step.” But he noted, “It is not at all a question of F-16s, there has been no demand (from Ukraine).” Macron added that the French “are not making this request at the moment for fighter jets” – in what appears a first confirmation that the Ukrainian government has not yet gone through with a formal ask.

Macron’s fresh remarks, however, are likely to be seen from Kiev as an invitation to proceed with a formal request, while will putting more pressure on Paris and the Western alliance. Ukrainian officials have long been going through Poland, it seems, to press the jet issue with NATO command in Brussels. Macron stipulated that jets for Ukraine must “not be escalatory” – meaning that they would “not be likely to hit Russian soil but purely to aid the resistance effort.” But obviously advanced fighters would be escalatory by the very nature of sending them after Moscow has reiterated its “red lines”. As for the rest of Europe, on the same day that the White House said that it would not be sending jets, Britain’s Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said it would not be practical.

“The UK’s … fighter jets are extremely sophisticated and take months to learn how to fly. Given that, we believe it is not practical to send those jets into Ukraine,” a spokesperson for the British prime minister told reporters. “We will continue to discuss with our allies about what we think what is the right approach.” Indeed given training on the Abrams M1 tank could take at minimum six months, something as sophisticated as Western-made fighter jets could take years for pilots unfamiliar with their systems to get combat ready on. Germany too has issued a firm “no” amid mounting pressure from Ukraine for jets. Meanwhile it’s no surprise that the European country pressing the hardest to send jets continues to be Poland. Warsaw has been pressing the rest of NATO to transfer jets since the opening months of the war. On Monday Polish officials expressed readiness to send US-made F-16s to Ukraine, but emphasized it would only do so in coordination with NATO. “We will act in full coordination here,” Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said.

Boris

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“..organized GOP members into “task forces” to come up with oversight and legislative priorities..”

House GOP Kicks Off Biden Corruption Investigations (ZH)

Newly empowered House Republicans are kicking off their long-planned investigations into a wide variety of issues, beginning with hearings on the US-Mexico border crisis, the origins of Covid-19, and pandemic relief programs. The House Judiciary Committee’s first meeting of the new Congress, led by Chairman Jim Jordan (R-OH), will be “The Biden Border Crisis: Part I.” Then, the House Energy and Commerce investigations subcommittee will hold a hearing titled: “Challenges and Opportunities to Investigating the Origins of Pandemics and Other Biological Events,” as part of its probe into the origins of Covid-19. Meanwhile, the House Oversight and Accountability Committee, led by James Comer (R-KY) will kick off a hearing on waste, fraud and abuse related to federal pandemic spending, The Hill reports.

“I don’t think history will be kind to the PPP loan program,” said Comer during a Monday appearance at a National Press Club event, referring to the program that provided businesses with forgivable loans. “I think it’ll be eventually viewed in the same manner that the big bank bailouts were when people find out where a lot of that money was going.” Republicans had been plotting extensive investigations into the Biden administration for more than a year before the midterm elections. Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), in preparation for taking the House majority, organized GOP members into “task forces” to come up with oversight and legislative priorities. Republican members of committees started investigations last year when they were in the minority.

Republicans now have control over committee hearing topics, a better chance of getting answers from administration officials, and are armed with subpoena power to compel testimony and documents — though no committee has used it yet. Next week, the Oversight panel is set to hold a hearing on the U.S.-Mexico border and a hearing with former Twitter employees about the platform’s suppression of the New York Post’s story on the Hunter Biden hard drive in 2020. -The Hill Speaking of the Bidens, the Oversight panel is also conducting an ‘extensive probe’ into the business dealings of President Biden’s family which will focus on Hunter Biden. Republicans on the House Oversight, Judiciary and Intelligence committees have also sought information related to President Biden’s mishandling of classified information, while the House Foreign Affairs and Armed Services committees are going to be investigating the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan.

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“..the military industrial complex is starting (potentially nuclear) wars all over the place. Government debt is growing exponentially. Wall Street has turned the markets into one big casino. Universities have become (very expensive) insane asylums. Congress is full of insider traders who amass fortunes while “serving the public.”

Gold And The Shrinking Trust Horizon (John Rubino)

[..] believe it or not, the public health establishment losing its credibility is related to precious metals, via something called the trust horizon. It works like this: When things are good and the people in charge of big systems seem to be running them well, we’re content to trust the experts. We keep most of our money in banks, brokerage houses, and crypto wallets that exist for us only as websites. We buy produce that’s grown in a different hemisphere and shipped via boats, trains, and trucks to corporate chain grocery stores. We vaccinate ourselves and our kids according to the schedules set by the NIH or the CDC. We pop pills on our doctor’s orders without doing any research. We eat processed foods on the assumption that the FDA keeps them free of dangerous additives. And we believe what we see on cable news.

In other words, our trust horizon, defined as the distance from ourselves at which we’ll believe what we’re told, is global. We assume everything everywhere is working for our benefit and we’re thus willing to put our welfare in those distant hands. But let some big systems fail to take proper care of us and we pull back, finding people and institutions closer to home that we can see and judge first-hand. We move our money out of distant banks and brokers and into local credit unions whose managers live down the street. We start buying groceries from farmers markets or directly from local farmers. Instead of popping whatever pill is standard for our ailments we look into “food as medicine” and other lifestyle remedies like exercise, supplements, and meditation. We homeschool our kids and join gun clubs. We buy homesteads and start raising chickens.

So where are today’s Americans on the trust horizon spectrum? Well, the military industrial complex is starting (potentially nuclear) wars all over the place. Government debt is growing exponentially. Wall Street has turned the markets into one big casino. Universities have become (very expensive) insane asylums. Congress is full of insider traders who amass fortunes while “serving the public.” And our presidents, well, insert your sarcastic phrase here. It’s safe to say that for a growing number of disillusioned people, trust now extends to – maybe — the governor’s mansion, city hall, local farmers, their church and one or two community banks. And that’s about it.

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“The market was impacted by war in Europe, high inflation, and rising interest rates. This negatively impacted both the equity market and bond market at the same time, which is very unusual. All the sectors in the equity market had negative returns, with the exception of energy.”

Norway’s Wealth Fund Posts Heavy Losses (RT)

Norway’s sovereign wealth fund, Government Pension Fund Global, posted a record loss of 1.64 trillion kroner ($164.4 billion) in 2022, according to data published on the fund’s website on Tuesday. The return on investment last year was negative 14.1%, according to the released figures. The fund’s equities holdings posted a 15.3% loss, while its fixed-income portfolio was down 12.1%. Nicolai Tangen, CEO of Norges Bank Investment Management, the entity that manages the fund, commented: “The market was impacted by war in Europe, high inflation, and rising interest rates. This negatively impacted both the equity market and bond market at the same time, which is very unusual. All the sectors in the equity market had negative returns, with the exception of energy.”


Despite the record loss, the overall value of the fund increased by 89 billion kroner ($8.9 billion) year-on-year. This was largely due to a record 1.1 trillion kroner ($109 billion) inflow, a figure roughly three times larger than the previous high from 2008. Currency fluctuations also helped, adding some 642 billion kroner ($64 billion) to the fund’s value. The fund, which reportedly lost the status of the world’s largest sovereign wealth fund to China Investment Corporation, had a value of 12.4 trillion kroner ($1.2 trillion) as of December 31, 2022. The fund invests the revenue from Norway’s oil and gas sales, which grew substantially last year after the country became Europe’s largest gas supplier due to the drop in Russian flows. The fund holds stakes in some 9,300 companies globally and owns the equivalent of 1.3% of all listed stocks.

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“..the use of the technology could be extended further to help “create, personalize, and animate the content itself..”

Buzzfeed Sacks 180 Journalists, Replaces Them With AI (RT)

Struggling online publisher BuzzFeed will start using artificial intelligence (AI) to help write its quizzes after laying off dozens of employees, Report informs referring to The Telegraph. The media company, known for its light-hearted articles and “listicles”, will work with OpenAI, the creator of ChatGPT, on the initiative. The chatbot, which provides human-like written responses to prompts, has attracted praise from tech executives, academics and politicians amid hopes it could simplify and transform tasks across a range of industries. The technology will be used to create quizzes on the website that are tailored to an individual, with, for example, a pitch for a personalized rom com.


The quiz would ask prompt questions such as “Pick a trope for your rom com” and “Tell us an endearing flaw you have” before using AI to generate a write-up based on the responses, according to a memo to staff from chief executive Jonah Peretti. Peretti said he planned to increase the use of AI across BuzzFeed’s editorial output and business operations this year, according to the memo seen by the Wall Street Journal. Peretti said he expected AI to assist the creative process and enhance the content, while humans would provide “cultural currency” and “inspired prompts”. But he suggested the use of the technology could be extended further to help “create, personalize, and animate the content itself” over the next 15 years. sThe company’s push into AI comes just over a month after it sacked 12pc of its workforce – around 180 employees.

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4-part series.

The Press Versus The President, Part Two (CJR)

In a windowless conference room at Trump Tower, on January 6, 2017, Comey briefed the president-elect about the dossier about him and Russia. Trump had heard, from aides, media “rumblings” about Russia, but, in an interview, he said he was unaware of the dossier until he met with Comey. Comey’s one-on-one with Trump came after the intelligence community briefed him on a new “Intelligence Community Assessment” (ICA) on Russian activities in 2016. The ICA claimed that Russia had mounted an “influence campaign” aimed at the election but had not targeted or compromised vote-tallying systems. Its most important, and controversial, finding was that “Putin and the Russian government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump,” as opposed to Russia’s usual goal, which was generally sowing chaos in the United States.

An unclassified version of the ICA was released the same day in Washington. The dossier, actually a series of reports in 2016, was included in the assessment, but it remained secret, temporarily, because a summary of it was attached as a classified appendix. “The only thing that really resonated,” Trump said about the briefing, “was when he said four hookers,” a reference to the unsubstantiated claim of a salacious encounter in Moscow. Trump’s immediate reaction was that “this is not going to be good for the family,” he recalled. But his wife, Melania, “did not believe it at all,” telling him, “That’s not your deal with the golden shower,” Trump recalled. Trump’s marriage might have survived but his hoped for honeymoon with the press was about to end. The dossier, largely suppressed by the media in 2016, was about to surface.

But first came the ICA. It received massive, and largely uncritical coverage. Some other reporters weren’t convinced. Gessen called the ICA “flawed” because it was based on “conjecture” and incorporated “misreported or mistranslated” and “false” public statements. They criticized the major media, including the New York Times, for describing the ICA as a “strong statement.” In an interview, Gessen said that their skepticism left them isolated and they began to “lose confidence.” The dossier wound up in the ICA because the FBI pushed it, despite reservations at the CIA. Agency analysts saw it as an “internet rumor,” according to Justice Department documents. Two “senior managers in the CIA mission center responsible for Russia” also had reservations, according to a memoir by Brennan, the head of the agency at the time.

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A lot of people will like an alternative to Paypal.

Twitter Makes Move That Could Take Out ‘Woke’ PayPal (TPN)

Twitter CEO Elon Musk is not messing around. The billionaire truly does want to take over the world. Back in October, Musk purchased Twitter for $44 billion and made it clear from day one that he had high ambitions. As Elon Musk strives to revive Twitter, the company has taken action by submitting applications for regulatory licenses in various parts of the US and developing the necessary software to incorporate payments within the social media platform. This would directly compete with PayPal who has been slammed by Conservatives for their ‘woke’ practices including banning and suspending payments from people who they don’t agree with. Check out what the Financial Times reported:

“Esther Crawford, a fast-rising lieutenant to Musk inside Twitter, has started to map out the architecture needed to facilitate payments on the platform with a small team, according to two people familiar with the company’s plans. The nascent moves to allow payments through the site are a critical part of Musk’s plan to open up fresh revenue streams. Twitter’s $5bn-a-year advertising business has cratered since he bought the platform for $44bn in October, with marketers citing concerns over its management and moderation. Musk has previously said he wants Twitter to offer fintech services such as peer-to-peer transactions, savings accounts and debit cards, as part of a masterplan to launch an “everything app” that incorporates messaging, payments and commerce. In 1999, Musk co-founded X.com, one of the first online banks, which later became part of payments giant PayPal. [..] Twitter is also pushing forward with the regulatory checks needed before launching a payment service. In November, Twitter registered with the US Treasury as a payments processor, according to a regulatory filing. It had now also begun to apply for some of the state licences it would need in order to launch, these people said.

Shortly after he acquired the tech company, Musk hinted that a payment processor would be coming soon. “The man who reinvented the payment system back in 1999 is all set to do it again,” tweeted ‘DogeDesigner’ on Twitter. Musk responded to the tweet, agreeing that he would be reinventing the payment system again. “It’s gonna be great,” Musk said.

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“..80% of the Pfizer deaths have come from ~30% of lots, whereas 80% of the Moderna deaths have come from 20% of lots…”

Who Will be Spared from COVID-19 Vaccine Injury? (McCullough)

Americans have become numb with newsreels of sudden cardiac death, blood clots, stroke, seizures, hospitalization, and death after COVID-19 vaccination. Many have vowed to decline future boosters and get off the vaccination train. However, a common question is: will I be spared? A Zobgy survey in 2022 found that 15% of individuals who took a COVID-19 vaccine had some new medical problem for which they were seeking care.1 A concordant survey done by Dr. Mark Skidmore at Michigan State University found that 22% of Americans knew someone who was seriously damaged by the vaccines.2 The CDC V-Safe data showed that 7-8% of those who took received a COVID-19 vaccine had to seek urgent care from an emergency department or similar facility.

These data suggest that ~85% of those who have received COVID-19 vaccines have no significant problems, and ~15% have been damaged. While this number is unacceptably high, and the vaccine campaign should be stopped, many are wondering now: “why me?” There are almost certainly factors related to the vaccine product that plays a role. In general, Moderna with 100 mcg of mRNA appears to be more toxic than Pfizer with 30 mcg of mRNA.Janssen seems to be similar acutely to Pfizer, but with a better longer-term safety profile. Novavax, with 5 mcg of purified Spike protein, appears to have the most favorable safety profile with no genetic material being injected into the body.

It has been reported that 80% of the Pfizer deaths have come from ~30% of lots, whereas 80% of the Moderna deaths have come from 20% of lots. Thus, the lot number must be a proxy for mRNA content, contaminants, or some other factor related to the product. Patient susceptibility factors make a syndrome more likely to be expressed if it is going to occur. For example, a family or personal history of a genetic blood clotting disorder, use of estrogens, obesity, and immobility make a person more likely to develop severe thromboembolic syndromes after vaccination. Atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease makes it more likely for the vaccines to cause a heart attack or stroke. Baseline cardiomyopathy, mutations in various ion channels, and possibly internal adrenalin during sleep or sports may trigger vaccine-induced myocarditis and sudden death.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1620546600799195136

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Starting to look that way.

Did 7.5 Million People Die From Covid Shots? (Horowitz)

There is simply no macro epidemiological evidence that the COVID jabs saved any lives from the virus. To the contrary, there are numerous data points showing negative efficacy. Moreover, over 70% of the 6.75 million recorded COVID deaths occurred precisely after the shots were unleashed. In fact, many parts of the world that barely experienced COVID deaths during the first year, such as Scandinavia, Australia, and far East Asia, incurred almost all of their deaths after the shots were in the arms of every senior. So now that we established there was no mortality benefit, what was the cost? What if I told you it was 7.5 million – even more than the recorded number of COVID deaths? A new peer-reviewed study from Michigan State University estimated that as of Dec. 18, 2021, the time of the survey, 278,000 Americans died of reactions to the jabs.

The study, published last week in BMC Infectious Diseases, used Dynata, the world’s largest first-party data platform, to create a random sample of 2,840 Americans to report their experience with the shots: 15% of those surveyed indicated they had experienced a health issue after vaccination, and 13% of those indicated that a severe adverse event had occurred, in line with many other surveys. Using extrapolations from the survey juxtaposed to state-by-state VAERS deaths, the researcher estimates that, as of Dec. 18, 2021, there were a total of 278,000 vaccine fatalities in the U.S. Further, “severe” adverse events are estimated to be about one million nationwide, and “less severe” adverse events are about 2.1 million. Estimated nationwide fatalities, “severe” injuries, and “less severe” injuries tally to 3.4 million.

This is just after the first year of the vaccine. The results should shock the conscience of the public. So how many died in the world over two years of vaccination? Using the numbers from Our World in Data, 493 million doses of the vaccine were administered in the U.S. at the time of the Michigan State survey. So, if 493 million doses were enough to kill 278 thousand Americans, how many would have died at the same rate globally from the beginning until today? At 13.24 billion doses administered globally, that would result in 7.47 million vaccine fatalities, more than the Holocaust! That would be in addition to 27 million severe injuries globally!

What is shockingly eerie about this projection is that it’s almost identical to what I estimated in terms of the global death toll two months ago based on the CDC’s V-SAFE data demonstrating an underreporting factor in VAERS of 26. Using the URF of 26, and multiplying for the global doses administered, I estimated a back-of-the-envelope total of 7.855 million COVID shot deaths globally. Using this extrapolation just for the U.S. based on the total current number of doses, it would work out to about 372,000 deaths in the U.S. Some estimate as many as 550,000 non-COVID excess deaths, which could demonstrate potentially an even higher death toll.

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“..failed to find even a modest effect on infection or illness rates from masks of all qualities..”

Massive Mask Meta-study Undermines Remaining Covid Mandates (JTN)

An international research collaboration that reviewed several dozen rigorous studies of “physical interventions” against influenza and COVID-19 through last year failed to find even a modest effect on infection or illness rates from masks of all qualities. Published in the peer-reviewed Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews, run by the British evidence-based medicine charity Cochrane, the study raises new doubts about ongoing mask mandates and public health recommendations worldwide. The CDC is still recommending masking in areas with “high” transmission levels — fewer than 4% of U.S. counties — as well as indoor masking to protect high-risk contacts in “medium” counties (27%).

Masks are still required in educational institutions in Democratic strongholds such as New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Washington and California, according to the Daily Mail. Boston Public Schools denied its “temporary masking protocol” in early January was a “mandate,” following a public letter against the policy by student Enrique Abud Evereteze. South Korea is still requiring masks on public transport and in medical facilities after dropping COVID mandates in most indoor settings, including gyms, Monday, Reuters reported. The researchers for the Cochrane study are affiliated with a geographically disparate range of institutions in the U.K., Canada, Australia, Italy and Saudi Arabia. Half are affiliated with the Institute for Evidence-Based Healthcare at Australia’s Bond University. The corresponding author is the University of Calgary’s John Conly.

The team added 11 new randomized controlled trials and “cluster-RCTs,” which randomize groups of subjects rather than individuals, to its prior review from November 2020, for a total of 78 studies. The additions included COVID pandemic trials: two from Mexico and one each from England, Norway, Denmark and Bangladesh, the latter two well known internationally. The Danish study had trouble finding a major journal willing to publish its controversial findings that wearing surgical masks had no statistically significant effect on infection rates, even among those who claimed to wear them “exactly as instructed.” Mainstream media overlooked red flags in the Bangladeshi mask study, which found no effect for surgical masks under age 50 and a difference of only 20 infections between control and treatment groups among 342,000 adults.

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Very interesting. But there’s still no profit in IVM.

How Ivermectin Kills Prostate Cancer Cells (PR)

I spent the first semester of my course, The Biology of Cancer, reviewing all of the aspects of The Hallmarks of Cancer. This morning, firing up Pubmed to continue preparing my lecture prostate cancer, I found this gem of a study, which happens to be a collaboration between my former employer, The University of Pittsburgh, and Southern Medical University-Guangzhou. I don’t know the authors:


Title: “Integrated analysis reveals FOXA1 and Ku70/Ku80 as targets of ivermectin in prostate cancer” The authors exposed various prostate cancer cells lines to Ivermectin and found that ivermectin binds to two proteins: FOXA1 and Ku70/Ku80. This leads to the inhibition of androgen receptor (AR), E2F1 expression, and DNA damage repair activity. The cells stopped dividing (G0/G1 cell cycle arrest), experience extensive DNA damage, and die. A retrospective study of the rates of cancer and rates of death from cancer among unvaccinated people who prophylactically used Ivermectin over a long period of time vs those who did not is in order.

Study Abstract:


Ivermectin is a widely used antiparasitic drug and shows promising anticancer activity in various cancer types. Although multiple signaling pathways modulated by ivermectin have been identified in tumor cells, few studies have focused on the exact target of ivermectin. Herein, we report the pharmacological effects and targets of ivermectin in prostate cancer. Ivermectin caused G0/G1 cell cycle arrest, induced cell apoptosis and DNA damage, and decreased androgen receptor (AR) signaling in prostate cancer cells. Further in vivo analysis showed ivermectin could suppress 22RV1 xenograft progression. Using integrated omics profiling, including RNA-seq and thermal proteome profiling, the forkhead box protein A1 (FOXA1) and non-homologous end joining (NHEJ) repair executer Ku70/Ku80 were strongly suggested as direct targets of ivermectin in prostate cancer. The interaction of ivermectin and FOXA1 reduced the chromatin accessibility of AR signaling and the G0/G1 cell cycle regulator E2F1, leading to cell proliferation inhibition. The interaction of ivermectin and Ku70/Ku80 impaired the NHEJ repair ability. Cooperating with the downregulation of homologous recombination repair ability after AR signaling inhibition, ivermectin increased intracellular DNA double-strand breaks and finally triggered cell death. Our findings demonstrate the anticancer effect of ivermectin in prostate cancer, indicating that its use may be a new therapeutic approach for prostate cancer.

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“..multiple quanta have inherent properties that are both indeterminate, but the properties of each one aren’t independent of the other..”

Quantum Entanglement Just Got A Whole Lot Weirder (Siegel)

In the quantum Universe, things behave very differently than our common experience would suggest. In the macroscopic world we’re familiar with, any object we can measure appears to have intrinsic properties that are independent of whether we observe it or not. We can measure things like mass, position, motion, duration, etc., without worrying about whether that object is affected by our measurements; reality exists completely independently of the observer. But in the quantum world, that’s demonstrably not true. The act of measuring a system fundamentally changes its properties in an irrevocable way. One of the weirdest quantum properties of all is entanglement: where multiple quanta have inherent properties that are both indeterminate, but the properties of each one aren’t independent of the other.

We’ve seen this demonstrated for photons, electrons, and all sorts of identical particles before, enabling us to test and probe the fundamental and surprising nature of reality. In fact, the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded precisely for investigations into this phenomenon. But in a novel experiment, quantum entanglement has just been demonstrated between different particles for the first time, and already the technique has been used to see an atom’s nucleus like never before. In principle, quantum entanglement is a simple idea to understand, and it’s built on the idea of quantum indeterminism. Imagine you pull a ball out of a hat, and there’s a 50/50 chance that the ball has one of two properties.

• Perhaps it’s color: the ball could be black or white. • Perhaps it’s mass: either you pulled out a light ball or a heavy ball. • Perhaps it’s which direction it’s spinning: the ball could be “spin up” or “spin down.” If you only had one ball, you might wonder: upon pulling it out and examining the ball, did it always have those properties, even before you looked at it? Or did the ball have a set of indeterminate parameters, where it was a mix of: • black-and-white • light-and-heavy, • and spinning as a mix of both up-and-down, that was only determined at the instant you took the critical measurement?

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    Claude Monet Water lillies 1914 – 1917   • A Panicked Empire Tries To Make Russia An ‘Offer It Can’t Refuse’ (Escobar) • Desperate Actions (Dioní
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle February 1 2023]

    #127879
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Yet to be confirmed; I was told earlier this evening that the neighbour who viciously attacked me for telling the truth about The Scorpion and the fake vaccines, the very same neighbour who refused to become informed and got proudly jabbed and whose friends threatened me with physical violence, was taken away by ambulance, suffering from a heart condition.

    Note to those who viciously attack me for telling the truth about CO2-induced planetary overheating. There is such a thig as karmic justice.

    On the matter of flags, kindly note that the US flag has exactly the same 13 red-and-white stripes as the flag of the [British] East India Company, and that the thirteen stars that filled the top left corner of the original flag of the US were the thirteen states owned and operated by the East India Company.

    The battle was not between the colonies and the Crown but between the East India Company and the Crown.

    The East India Company won.

    #127880
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Worth thinking about: the wars to protect the hegemony of the US dollar, and their imminent escalation and failure.

    #127881
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Well, we’re on it today. We had a pleasant and mild winter (which means Global Warming!) and are now going to have a cold snap. (That means Global Warming!) See why I can’t take their anti-Scientific nonsense seriously? Mild, warm = Global Warming (kill all humans) But Cold, sharp ALSO = Global Warming (kill all humans).

    Is there any POSSIBLE weather that doesn’t indicate to you we should kill all humans? Asking for a friend.

    I don’t know how to rephrase “A thing and its opposite are not the same”. Its so fundamental to logic and reality if you’ve lost that tether I don’t know how to re-attach it for you. But I’m trying. Every day I look for a way.

    The way we should do that of course is to put up windmills (that didn’t work in the cold). Lord help us all.

    “Pfizer has agreed to pay $2.3 billion, which is the largest healthcare fraud settlement in the history of the Department of Justice.” – Armstrong

    What are you talking about? Pfizer is a billionaire corporation of complete saints.

    Head of Central Bank Digital Currency HM Treasury Apply before 11:55 pm on Tuesday 7th February”

    Don’t they know central bank digital currencies are a conspiracy theory?

    “Prestigious Liberal Watchdog Condemns New York Times’ Russiagate Coverage: “[A]bsolutely devastating how casually, frequently, recklessly and eagerly the press lied on Russiagate…”

    Yes but see how useful having no shame is? No shame = no embarrassment, no feelings, no need to change. “I’m practically perfect in every way.” The end justifies the means, so what do I care what the means are? We simply MUST remove the first U.S. President openly in favor of gay marriage who confirms a new peace in the Middle East. There is no alternative.

    “’We Found No Misuse Of US Funds In Ukraine’, US Treasury Says

    See what I mean? Couldn’t be easier.

    “Iran and Russia integrate banking systems. Really. Done.”

    Same day Israel bombs them. Died of coincidence.

    New $7 Trillion in debt.

    Turns out that’s the other problem people can’t visualize in the compound function: any straight-up line can easily get higher and faster. Trees don’t grow to the sky but they don’t give any clues to when they stop either.

    “why should Moscow take indirect proposals seriously[?] they have their backs against the wall. Their power is slipping away, fast”

    I mean, complete props to the West, WEF, and NATO. I had no idea they could forestall a financial collapse this long. Especially in the face of an open manufacturing, retail, and military collapse. Totally, I see the problem: they remain far, far more powerful than they appear.

    Lira: I don’t remember if this was the video with the “What were they thinking?” What were they thinking? They were thinking Belarus would be CIA flipped. They were thinking Kazakhstan would be held in CIA hands, constantly making trouble. They thought they had Armenia. They were thinking they had a deal with Iran and also Saudi Arabia. They thought India wouldn’t dare. They were thinking the sanctions would work, but 4 additional years of them under Trump had caused Russia to develop complete independence. They were thinking they had China divided with the Umbrella Revolution in Hong Kong and support to the Uighers, especially with a whole U.S. retail collapse.

    They were thinking Europe would have 1/3 less people needing oil. They were thinking they’d have Turkey and get into the Black Sea. They thought they could amass an army of 120,000 and genocide Donbass first with Russia only responding too late. 80% of GDP. They thought Russia didn’t have electronic jammers or full hypersonics yet. And they ESPECIALLY thought and were assured the U.S. Army would happily escalate to full heavy arms support along with Germany and Poland.

    None of those were true. All were parried. But you can easily see their plan which they ‘thought’ they had going. It was a great plan. However, plans don’t work very well if you lie to yourself and suppress unhappy information.

    Lira, LordBebo, As Lira says, it is impossible that Russia is using any human wave tactics, because their casualties are far too low. Official, and very clever Left-Western-Offical sources like MSNBC – never pro-Russia – say they are just over 20k. To the +100k de Lyin’ said. 5:1 according to the extremely bent, very pro-west sources. That just says it’s impossible any human waves were used. In fact, it says the #Opposite (of course). It would be extremely hard for the Defender to get to 5 or 10 to 1 losses unless they WERE using human wave tactics.

    “Western-made fighter jets could take years for pilots unfamiliar with their systems to get combat ready on..”

    Forgetting that they are 45 year old jets, and Russian have not only air defense superiority, but electronic jamming superiority. Say, what’s the price of an F-16 vs a tank anyway? And Tanks? The Lira video says that the age of tanks may be over. In an age of drones, they can spot a tank and digitally-target them in real time, dropping a building-sized round right on its head. No tank could possibly survive that. Now this is new – until recently tanks were moving in the conventional way – but as it appears to be stable and working, the age of tanks may have ended 100 years after it began.

    Boris? “Such statements lead to further escalation?” Yes, we know. That’s the whole point. He serves his masters well. The ruling class of Ukraine are ahead of every man, woman, and child in all of Britain.

    “Are armed with subpoena power to compel testimony and documents — though no committee has used it yet.”

    Nor ever has for more than 50 years. Wake me when they do something. Congress isn’t in charge. But wait: we know for sure the President isn’t in charge either. So who’s in charge? Where are the policy orders coming from?

    Rubino: “Trust horizon” = Centralization.

    However, there is no remaining local structure to provide reliable food, water, and heat.

    Norway: I was about to say if they lost $160B, they should have invested in commodities. Duh, they don’t have to because they ARE the commodities. And their fund increased, not decreased, probably as planned. (Offset liabilities)

    Buzzfeed Sacks 180 Journalists, Replaces Them With AI (RT) “

    Moving from NPCs to AIs. Not much difference. Article the other day on Hollywood made a better point. There’s still no replacement for talent.

    “The ICA claimed that Russia had mounted an “influence campaign” aimed at the election but had not targeted or compromised vote-tallying systems.”

    So…no votes were changed, as Obama said. Yet they threw the election. Huh. Was Hillary’s $1B not working that week or something? The $32k “Russia” spent (citizens, not their government) was much greener money?

    See Columbia Journalism Wow, so tough! Such very! Except they knew for 6 years now and shut their mouths the whole time? And the journalists were all in good faith, just like “WMDs and ties to Al Qaeda” and “Yellowcake”? “1M Iraqi children were worth it”? STFU. You’re fired.

    • Twitter Makes Move That Could Take Out ‘Woke’ PayPal (TPN) “

    Remember who Twitter and PayPal are. Elon Musk and Jack Dorsey, on both sides. After a few years in exile, they are tag-teaming to regain control of their companies from those who stole it from them. It’s not like “Elon Musk takes over Sony TV” It’s HIS company. That’s where all his money came from, not Tesla and sure not SpaceX.

    Anyway, back to financial collapse, suppose they have DogeCoin back-end financial transfers when the banks collapse. PayPal quite obviously is Bank-based but there will be no banks since the Fed bails them out of collapse by the hundred-billion every night and is using $4 Quadrillion in derivatives to cover it up. But a loaf of bread might have 500 different bank-lending levels inside, from the farmer, trucker, baker, bag-maker, everyone. So “getting the corruption out of the system” is an awful lot harder than it seems when the world’s been completely wired for financial terrorism.

    Use a completely different platform and medium of exchange, and you have a large safety valve. Build 10-20 of them, including pocket change, and you’re getting to a survivable transition.

    “..80% of the Pfizer deaths have come from ~30% of lots, whereas 80% of the Moderna deaths have come from 20% of lots…”

    I’d say this is pleasantly random, like Thanos, but which states were these batches sent to? Red states, I wager.

    • Did 7.5 Million People Die From Covid Shots? (Horowitz) “

    Missing that the unnecessary, unmedical, and failed lockdowns killed just as many. And they knew it. It was against every published rule in every medical rulebook. They did it anyway.

    “‘Oh the East India Company genocided more than 100 million in North America alone”

    What the actual??? The British East India company wasn’t IN North America. They ruled the EAST Indies, not the West. Besides which, there probably weren’t 100M people North of Mexico city at any time they were in existence. YOU look it up, here’s a start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company
    Have I gone crazy here? And yes, the Colonists had deep state backers, but they double-crossed them at that time. Would you prefer no revolution at all, or just to have a pure and failed one with no support from anywhere?

    C’mon VP, you don’t want to stay for when we rotate out of this, or for more Warped History?

    #127882
    Germ
    Participant

    @ afewknowthetruth

    Germ smiles 😃!

    Bring it!

    #127883
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.americaoutloud.com/who-will-be-spared-from-covid-19-vaccine-injury/

    Who Will be Spared from COVID-19 Vaccine Injury?
    by Dr. Peter McCullough

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/359380328_The_role_of_social_circle_COVID-19_illness_and_vaccination_experiences_in_COVID-19_vaccination_decisions_a_representative_online_survey_of_the_United_States_population

    The role of social circle COVID-19 illness and vaccination experiences in COVID-19 vaccination decisions: a representative online survey of the United States population
    results: A total of 2,840 participants completed the survey between December 18 and 23, 2021
    (Covid-19 got changed to Omicron and variations which were less deadly)
    ———–
    Thus, the lot number must be a proxy for mRNA content, contaminants, or some other factor related to the product.
    https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/hot-lots-of-covid-19-vaccines-evidence-of-different-formulations-5bcedabb
    (I could not get the report)
    Investigation of Adverse Event Reports per Manufacturing Lot Number for Covid-19 Vaccines from VAERS Database in Comparison with Seasonal Flu Vaccines
    ————-

    Giaradot says each injection is like playing Russian Roulette.
    (I could not get a report)
    ———-
    • Did 7.5 Million People Die From Covid Shots? (Horowitz)

    https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-023-07998-3
    The role of social circle COVID-19 illness and vaccination experiences in COVID-19 vaccination decisions: an online survey of the United States population
    Mark Skidmore
    A total of 2840 participants completed the survey between December 18 and 23, 2021.

    (Covid-19 got changed to Omicron and variations which were less deadly)

    #127885
    jb-hb
    Participant

    about the Injection Which Does Not Vaccinate (TIWDNV)

    Bad Lots? – 30%? 20% That seems comforting. People may say maybe I have a chance, maybe my friend, brother, mother, wife, etc have a chance of dodging a bullet — but weren’t 100% of those tested found to have had their circulatory system damaged? 100%?

    7% increased danger per shot – errr, pretty sure I saw data showing each booster DOUBLED the risk. What’s this 7%? Again, comforting for sure to think only 7%. Dodged the bullet maybe.

    #127886
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Dig deeper Dr D. What’s on the surface usually isn’t it.

    #127887
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Yet to be confirmed; I was told earlier this evening that the neighbour who viciously attacked me for telling the truth about The Scorpion and the fake vaccines, the very same neighbour who refused to become informed and got proudly jabbed and whose friends threatened me with physical violence, was taken away by ambulance, suffering from a heart condition.

    Note to those who viciously attack me for telling the truth about CO2-induced planetary overheating. There is such a thig as karmic justice.

    Thank you, man. THANK you. This was the next planned stop on the journey, and you did it for me again.

    First, I will remind you, you were viciously asked in earnest good faith (and what could be more vicious than that?):
    –Explain why CO2 trails temperature if it is the CO2
    –Explain how the temperature you predict that will be, nevertheless, somehowcaused by CO2 will “melt down” the planet, despite repeated higher temperatures resulting in glaciation?
    –Explain how you decide what, if anything, would be to immoral to do to people when Planetary Meltdown is at stake and you presume the people that don’t believe in it are stupid, evil, and deserve whatever they get

    Now, you’ve already come out with what really matters, which is not CO2, it is:
    1. Humans are nothing but animals and should be nothing but animals
    2. Agriculture and everything that came from it was BAD
    3. Civilization is inherently oppressive. Twisted, Evil. Causes everything to BE evil.
    4. All human advancement (within civilization) is simply the progress of humans getting more and more destructive of anything good.
    5. You’re all doomed. DOOMED. Everyone and everything you ever knew. DOOMED.

    So that’s where you’re ACTUALLY arguing from, we’ve established that. Stop pretending “It’s the CO2, it’s the CO2. CO2 isn’t what matters to you, except as it fulfills #5.”

    I think we can either add a point 6 – you SHOULD be doomed.

    Remember that flurry in the news awhile back, court cases surrounding women trying to get health insurance companies to pay for birth control?

    I got in a debate with a guy on Tickerforum about this stuff. It was a weird interaction because no matter what questions I asked, observations I made, there always seemed to be…. “something else” that was the real argument for this guy and he didn’t want to say it.

    Eventually we came around to me saying – look, you’ve established you’re a conservative Republican who is against the monolithic welfare state, right? We can agree on that? So somebody has a child they’re not ready for and you stand a good chance of that child being cradle-to-grave on the welfare dole. Cost you as a taxpayer, what, 1 million, 2 million in welfare all told over the course of their life? And a condom costs what?

    And think of the knock-on effects. That child the parent is not ready to care for not only is on the dole. They’re going to be more likely to commit crimes – think of just the costs to society in cleaning up graphitti and vandalism – Probably riot 2-3 times over the course of their life. More likely to drag down other students trying to do well in school, more likely to join a gang, more likely to create MORE offspring that in turn are cradle-to-grave welfare recipients – VERY likely to always vote against you, resent you as oppressive, not be grateful that you wanted them to exist.

    DEFINITELY not all of them, but a non-negligible number incurring non-negligible costs. So why on earth do you not want health insurance to pay for condoms?

    and finally the answer, popping out in frustration:

    “But how will they have their punishment??!??!?”

    ahhhh. The truth finally comes out. Pregnancy = punishment for morally loose behavior. THANK you sir for coming clean.

    Christians have beliefs. Christians believe there is punishment. But they don’t consider their own belief to BE the punishment!!!

    YOUR points 1-5 above (with either a modified 5 or additional 6 – you SHOULD be doomed…)

    They amount to – you shall have no family, no community, no nation, no culture, no civilization. You shall have no art, no history, no tools, no home, no clothing, no fun, no self-respect, no joy. You should have nothing. You should be nothing. Everything and everyone you ever knew or heard about should have never existed. You should have never existed.

    This is sort of the ultimate endpoint in devaluation, a typical tool of Nacissistic Personality Disorder and Cluster-B in general.

    This past weekend, when you were saying verbatim “the natural state of humans is naked in the jungle,” you got the most natural, common-sense reaction. Ok, do it.

    What was your response? People are being big meanies if they want to take away my living within civilization, using the things of civilization, benefitting from them. But that’s YOU, man. That’s not Big Meanies trying to take stuff away from you, that’s YOU saying it.

    Or Borsch took a shot at it, although his tack was more, “I tried and it was too hard.” but he had already said he subscribed to every Jensenite tenet EXCEPT “tear it all down” agreement EXCEPT don’t bother blowing up the hydroelectric dams. AGREEMENT that human’s most natural state is that of a Pleistocene animal. So apparently living in your most natural state is the most difficult thing while living totally at odds with what you are adapted to, meant for, natural to, is easiest. Hm.

    And of course that’s when the “it’s the systemic injustice/oppression” started popping up, which I think we will see more of later on in our journey.

    But it’s interesting to note that
    1. The belief system, all tenets of it that you are recommending to all of us are horribly corrosive and destructive to any human who adopts them
    2. That belief system isn’t for YOU, it’s for other people.

    And apparently that is because it is a punishment. And one reflects how strongly and importantly punishment figures into your values and what we are REALLY arguing about.

    #127888
    Noirette
    Participant

    re. prev. thread.

    jb-hb, heh, I take no offense, my post about the US was just about the US, what ppl / groups of ppl, or those instituted in power, get up to is horrific… Then forwards march to > humanity sucks…why not.

    It does, in the sense that our big brains have made us too successful, murderous, rapacious, at the expense of many animals, plants, Nature, in its sort of imagined pristine auto-regulated, state. Say.

    A Lion kills to eat but not more than to keep him and his (xx idk the word) living happily lazing along. Humans will try to kill entire populations to grab resources, etc. To point to another ex. of a murderous ‘country,’ France (in its various territorial shapes and names, I’m no historian..) has been incredibly belligerent and killed fantastic nos. of ppl over time.. Those days are over now. France is even withdrawing from Mali! (other story.)

    Dr. D, I learnt some about US history, merci. His post:

    Debt Rattle January 31 2023

    Where is history? Nowhere.

    A grand line worth adopting.

    #127889
    John Day
    Participant

    @AFKTT: I don’t think the flag represents reality.
    In reality, the British East India Company usurped much of the authority of the king/queen, especially extraterritorially, and the American Revolution was essentially against the East India Corporation, though the King’s forces supported the East India Company holdings and trade arrangements. IMHO.

    #127890
    John Day
    Participant

    Testing if Substack will upload today, “Targeted For Elimination:
    https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/targeted-for-elimination

    #127891
    John Day
    Participant

    Good, Substack links are loading for now.

    ​ ​Jim Kunstler: The War Against Us​ [It looks global, coordinated, and it keeps going, even when it is doing the opposite of what it is supposed to​ do​.]
    ​ ​“We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals, and our banks destroy our economy ” – Chris Hedges
    ​ ​The question you might ask these days: how did we weaponize everything in American life against ourselves? Can you name an institution that is not at war with the people of this land? The exact mechanisms for all that bad faith stand in plain sight these days, and persons responsible can be easily identified. What’s missing are discernible motives.

    The War Against Us

    Hey, look at the last time real-disposable-income in the US dropped this hard in one year. It has been a long time, 90 years. 1932. Prob’ly nothing…

    https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/we-just-witnessed-economic-sign-hasnt-happened-peak-great-depression-1932

    “Supporting Ukraine”
    Moscow provides more evidence of US biolabs in Ukraine
    Kiev’s troops were among the test subjects for Pentagon-funded research, the Russian MOD says
    https://www.rt.com/russia/570714-russia-ukraine-pentagon-biolabs/

    ​Alastaiir Crooke , At War with Russia, Europe Peers Down the Abyss
    ​ ​The real enemy is humanity itself – whose behaviour was to be changed. President Clinton’s delegate to Rio, Tim Wirth, admitted the same, stating, “We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the ‘right thing’ in terms of economic policy”.
    ​ ​The point here is that the Rockefeller-Davos prescription was always a scam for blowing a new financial bubble to keep the dollar hegemony project afloat. The world however, is moving on from the Davos unitary world governance prescription, to de-centralisation and multi polarity – in pursuit of the renaissance of autonomy, historic values and sovereignty. At the WEF this year, it was obvious: Davos is passé​..​.
    ​..Colonel Douglas Macgregor, a former adviser to a U.S. Defence Secretary, says that the mood in Washington has notably changed: DC gets it – the U.S. is losing the proxy war. This fact however, Macgregor says, still remains ‘under the radar’ in respect to the main-stream media. The more important point Macgregor makes is that this late ‘awakening’ to reality is not shifting the stance of the neocons hawks, one jot. They want escalation…
    ​..​The ‘uniformed’ militaries of Europe also ‘get it’: that Ukraine is losing, and now are very worried by the prospect of escalation – and of war engulfing eastern Europe. The tanks have nothing to do with their calculus about the war outcome.​..
    ​..Popular opinion, and key strands of élite opinion in Germany (and elsewhere in Europe), are becoming hardened in opposition to the war. The concern is that the emphasis on sending exactly German tanks, with their dark symbolism of past bloody battles, is intended to bury any prospect of any future German relationship with Russia – for good.​..
    ..Poland, already mobilising a 200,000 man military force, would become the new proxy (and the largest army in Europe) in a wider European war against Russia…
    ​..Polish Foreign Ministry official – reported that “every day, Polish politicians say what the representatives of Germany or France usually do not dare to say, and thus formulate one of the goals of the war, that Russia must be unconditionally weakened as far as possible. Our goal is to stop Russia forever. A rotten compromise must not be allowed”.
    ..The axis of states “at war with Russia” stand at the edge of an economic precipice. Living standards are collapsing at the fastest rate since WW2. Anger, slow to ignite, is now burgeoning. The British and EU political classes have no answers to this crisis. The Ruling Class try to sit tight, and trust that the people will accept all ‘things’…
    ..Colonel Macgregor suggests that the supply of ‘tanks’ were intended to “prolong the suffering” – i.e., more ‘optics’ until (presumably) a scapegoat can be identified that can carry the can for an eventual Ukraine débacle. Who might that be? Well, the rumour mill hints that the Biden Classified Documents saga is a ruse intended to lead to Joe Biden’s departure ahead of the Democratic primaries…
    ..The Europeans fear kinetic war in Europe, whereas the American faction more fears the prospect of financial melt-down, should the war widen.
    Of course, Moscow too, does not want a wider war – although it must prepare against just such a contingency.​..
    ​..Russia however, is unlikely to take the bait: It has the real strategic advantage in all areas of engagement with the Ukrainian forces. Whereas, the West has only the ephemeral optical escalatory advantage.
    ​ ​Team Putin has the latitude to manage any escalatory steps (by way of retaliation) in mini, scattergun fashion, so to avoid giving the Washington warriors their hoped for ‘Pearl Harbour’ peg (as when the U.S. fleet was left tethered and at anchor, as a target intended to entice a Japanese attack).

    ‘At War with Russia’, Europe Peers Down the Abyss

    #127892
    John Day
    Participant

    #127893
    John Day
    Participant

    Iran, Russia Integrate Banking Systems
    ​ ​A top Iranian official announced on 30 January that Iran and Russia had integrated their interbank communication and transfer systems to help enhance trade and financial operations in an effort to bypass strict economic sanctions on their financial infrastructure.
    ​ ​With the signing of the agreement, 52 Iranian and 106 Russian banks are connected through the Russian Financial Message Transfer System.
    https://thecradle.co/article-view/20904/iran-russia-integrate-banking-systems​

    Elon Musk made his initial fortune in digital banking, which got rolled into PayPal. It was clear from the outset that directly transforming Twitter into a platform for wireless financial transactions would be the most profitable thing he could do with it. It could work with any currency and should be able to convert currencies.
    ​ ​Musk has previously said he wants Twitter to offer fintech services such as peer-to-peer transactions, savings accounts and debit cards, as part of a masterplan to launch an “everything app” that incorporates messaging, payments and commerce. In 1999, Musk co-founded X.com, one of the first online banks, which later became part of payments giant PayPal.
    ​ ​​. In November, Twitter registered with the US Treasury as a payments processor, according to a regulatory filing. It had now also begun to apply for some of the state licences it would need in order to launch, these people said.​..
    ​..​“The man who reinvented the payment system back in 1999 is all set to do it again,” tweeted ‘DogeDesigner’ on Twitter. Musk responded to the tweet, agreeing that he would be reinventing the payment system again. “It’s gonna be great,” Musk said.

    BREAKING: Twitter Makes Move That Could Take Out ‘Woke’ PayPal

    Shadowy, Extensive British Military Spying Operation Targets COVID-19 Critics, Politicians, Journalists, Citizens
    ​ ​Soldiers from the Army’s 77th Brigade collated tweets from British citizens about Covid-19 at the start of the pandemic and passed them to the Cabinet Office. Troops also conducted “sentiment analysis” about the government’s Covid-19 response.
    ​ ​The Rapid Response Unit [Cabinet Office] pressured a Whitehall department to attack newspapers for publishing articles analyzing Covid-19 modeling that it feared would “affect compliance” with pandemic restrictions.
    ​ ​RRU staff featured Conservative MPs, activists, and journalists in “vaccine hesitancy reports” for opposing vaccine passports.
    https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/bombshell-revelations-as-shadowy-extensive-british-military-spying-operation-targets-covid-19-critics-politicians-journalists-citizens-ba7dc4c1

    #127894
    John Day
    Participant

    This is a good, informative article about how well mass use of Ivermectin in Peru and India dramatically decreased deaths and hospitalizations from COVID.
    Ivermectin: Could Population-Wide Distribution Have Prevented China’s Recent Mass COVID Outbreak?
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ivermectin-could-population-wide-distribution-have-prevented-chinas-recent-mass-covid

    ​ Meryl Nass MD explains how the “Emergency” will be cancelled, when all “stakeholders” can be assured profits and absolved of all legal liability without it.
    ​ White House says the “emergency” will end in May 2023.
    The “Emergency” designation gives the federal and state executive branches dictatorial powers. It is also absolutely necessary if EUAs are to be used. The day the Emergency ends, all EUAs end—they get revoked…
    ​..​What happens in May? Schizer and Murderna will be allowed to sell their fully licensed COVID vaccines for over $100 per dose, instead of selling them to the government for $20-$30/dose.
    ​ ​By then the full process for removing liability for these products will be complete: a Federal Register notice and an excise tax of 75 cents/dose will have been completed and because CDC put the vaccines on the childhood schedule, the COVID vaccines will fall under the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP). A pot of money will become available to pay out for a limited number of injuries, collected from the excise taxes paid for all vaccines in the program. The USG and the manufacturer will again dodge liability.
    https://merylnass.substack.com/p/white-house-says-the-emergency-will

    ​Daniel Horowitz, ​Did 7.5 million people die from COVID shots?
    ​ ​A new peer-reviewed study from Michigan State University estimated that as of Dec. 18, 2021, the time of the survey, 278,000 Americans died of reactions to the jabs.
    https://www.conservativereview.com/horowitz-did-7-5-million-people-die-from-covid-shots-2659328869.html

    ​ Peter McCullough MD: Who Will be Spared from COVID-19 Vaccine Injury?​
    ​ ​These data suggest that ~85% of those who have received COVID-19 vaccines have no significant problems, and ~15% have been damaged. While this number is unacceptably high, and the vaccine campaign should be stopped, many are wondering now: “why me?” There are almost certainly factors related to the vaccine product that plays a role. In general, Moderna with 100 mcg of mRNA appears to be more toxic than Pfizer with 30 mcg of mRNA.Janssen seems to be similar acutely to Pfizer, but with a better longer-term safety profile. Novavax, with 5 mcg of purified Spike protein, appears to have the most favorable safety profile with no genetic material being injected into the body.
    ​ ​It has been reported that 80% of the Pfizer deaths have come from ~30% of lots, whereas 80% of the Moderna deaths have come from 20% of lots. Thus, the lot number must be a proxy for mRNA content, contaminants, or some other factor related to the product.
    https://www.americaoutloud.com/who-will-be-spared-from-covid-19-vaccine-injury/

    #127895
    John Day
    Participant

    I fixed an inadvertent double-post by elimination up there…

    #127896
    John Day
    Participant

    Project Veritas rented a TV-screen van and parked it in front of Pfizer’s NYC HQ for a day.
    https://gab.com/ProjectVeritas/posts/109784587691577276

    #127897
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Several people here have said that they post here to maintain their sanity. They say this when I ask them why they’re quoting bogus data or making extreme unsubstantiated claims.

    There’s something poetically ironic in that.

    ***

    Re; Last week’s Green party screedfest and how it is the most murderous megalomaniacal war-mongering mumble-fucking thing evah. Here is the local (USA) Green party position on Ukraine:

    Green Link

    “Because the United States is fighting a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine, it is important that the Green Party of the United States have an official statement regarding its position on the war in Ukraine. It is also especially important because of the grave danger of nuclear war in which the government has placed our country and the rest of the world. Because one of the Green Party pillars is Peace, we should have a position that is likely to end the hostilities and resolve the differences between Russia and Ukraine in a peaceful manner.
    Proposal
    The Green Party of the United States (GPUS) endorse the following statement as the official position of GPUS regarding the war in Ukraine:

    GPAX/GPUS Statement On War In Ukraine

    The Green Party of the United States (GPUS) views the war in Ukraine with great concern. As the US party of peace, we emphatically oppose the recourse to war as a means of inter-state dispute resolution and, accordingly, condemn the present violence in Ukraine by all sides. With respect to the US and Western response, we express specific concerns regarding:

    1. The militaristic approach of indefinitely arming Ukraine. This strategy is demonstrably flawed. Ukraine is losing the war (despite heavy Western military assistance) and protracting the conflict through further armament will only lead to more death and destruction in Ukraine – not to a Ukrainian victory. This approach does not reflect a sincere interest in the well-being of the Ukrainian people, but rather the geopolitical and financial interests of Western elites.

    2. The misbegotten approach of imposing inefficacious and self-destructive sanctions on Russia. This strategy is empirically flawed. In keeping with the long track record of previous failures of punitive sanctions regimes, the current sanctions on Russia have not altered its behavior in Ukraine. Instead, they have increased its energy revenues and strengthened the Ruble, while damaging the Western European economy and undermining confidence in the US financial system. Aggravating international tensions through economic warfare will not bring peace to Ukraine.”

    ***

    Last year it was USNATO that was the most murderous megalomaniacal war-mongering mumble-fucking thing evah. Year before it was the WHO. Before that, it was the mere old USA milindustrial complex. Before that, the Fed. I guess they take turns.

    ****

    If ya’ll would stop blowing so much personal vindictive self-righteous and consistently inconsistent bullshit around here, some of us might actually retain some sanity. Here is some study material:

    Old and Wizened

    ***

    The vaxxed willfully fuck themselves. They don’t need our help to feel miserable, confused, defeated, lost, or just plain dead (oh! wadda feelin!) Now about the orphaned children of the deceased vaxxed:

    Oh! They are SO fucked!

    FUCK THE CHILDREN!!!!

    Oh well.

    ***

    “Christians have beliefs. Christians believe there is punishment. But they don’t consider their own belief to BE the punishment!!!”

    I’m-a tangent this to another aspect: If there is an afterlife and a judgment and life review and all that as described in many thousands of NDEs, If so, I firmly believe (and I am a certified Prophet of God, so believe me or be punished!;) ) that the judgment/punishment we fear is not God’s but our own, when we review our life in glorified deep detail, and realize how wretchedly we’ve behaved to others and ourselves.

    oxymoron counseled Germ on such things the other day. Obsessing on the misery of the dead and dying is not all that good for a person’s psyche, here or in possible afterlives.

    I think oxy is wise in this regard… so you should all dump all your oxy stock now, cuz if I endorse it, you know it’s bad. 😉

    ***

    Oh yea, that Jensen thing: the fact that some people think we would be wise to address our paleolithic genetic roots does not mean they wish for anyone to squat naked while eating mud. Only the vaxxed will be forced to do this once the Jensenites take over.

    ***

    We post here to maintain a sense of sanity, of understanding, of belonging… so why not post things that actually foster sanity, understanding, and sense of belonging? I know, I know: that’s crazy talk.

    ***

    As “my old man” says: “No, you can’t go getting mad at people because they’re shitty. Life will get mad at them, don’t worry..” Justin Halpern, Sh*t My Dad Says

    ***

    The goggles! they do nothing!

    ***

    Our musical mater:

    Cybernetic Soil

    ****

    Hey citizenx. I’m hungry for attention. Dig this!

    #127898
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Doc day: just cuz it’s none of your business doesn’t mean you’re exscluded. Here’s the deal DBS and I agreed on awhile back:

    me: Only way I’ll consider further relations with you is with a sincere apology from you. It will also have to be public at TAE as well. I’ll continue discussing any point you or anyone brings up an it please me, cuz it’s a public forum. But I won’t address my remarks to you, only the subject, to which I’ll show the usual respect. Otherwise, you can kiss my ass.

    DBS: Then that’s that. Agreed on how we should proceed on TAE, because I do enjoy going there and greatly value Raul’s giving us so much room on his pulpit.
    <end>

    It was a simple deal. Not complicated. It’s now a broken deal. Yadi ya.

    #127899
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    For the younger among us. Here is genuine boomer optimism and pride in its early rae embarrassing form.

    Electric Flag Monterey

    We were no worse than today’s pink-haired justice warrior or self-defined “patriot”:

    #127900
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    The wildman in my attic wonders if Elon Musk sees turning Twitter into Pay-Pal Plus as something to benefit from the decline of the petrodollar and the rise ofa plethora of new currencies.

    #127901
    boscohorowitz
    Participant
    #127902
    jb-hb
    Participant

    our big brains have made us too successful, murderous, rapacious

    and all the other times, for billions of years, in which no humans were present, and species out-competed other species and gagillions of species went extincted, they ALSO were “too successful”?

    Photosynthetic plants are way more successful than humans. Been around a LOT longer and will be here when we are gone. Poisoned the atmosphere with O2 (not CO2), causing a mega-dieoff the likes of which we have never and will never see.

    Too successful, then?

    Was EVERY instance of millions of too-successfulnesses wrong? Or just the most recent one?

    Is that because humans are just animals and also ought to be just animals and are guilty of not trying hard enough to be just animals?

    Should stasis have been achieved at some much earlier point, to avoid too much success? Eliminate the human one and you have 9,999,999,999,999 to go. Or is there a particular reason stasis should be achieved right now, these particular conditions?

    #127903
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Incidentally, the natural state of a human being is… unnatural. We really have no clue what to do with ourselves… except argue with each other over who is the most clueless.

    #127904
    John Day
    Participant

    Boscohorowitz quoted the USA Green-Party platform: “The misbegotten approach…”
    Heh, heh, heh, we know that THAT word means.
    🙂


    @boscohorowitz
    & DBS : “Show Me The Way”, Dudes!

    I saw Frampton and his also-diminutive girlfriend in the cafeteria line of the hospital where I worked washing pots during college. I didn’t know who they were, but they were little and looked like rock stars. I commented on it and somebody told me “that was Peter Frampton, hs manager got hurt in a boating accident at Aquafest”. I was working a 13 hr. shift. It was a weekend. I put in most of my hours on weekends.

    #127905
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “Photosynthetic plants are way more successful than humans. Been around a LOT longer and will be here when we are gone. Poisoned the atmosphere with O2 (not CO2), causing a mega-dieoff the likes of which we have never and will never see.”

    Let’s stick to animals for now, eh?

    Also, you’re doing the same thing that your “punishing Xtians” do: making a moral case of an amoral thing. It is not which species is the “worst” that is so important, it is what happening now to the most species. Just as we don’t want to experience another Oxygen Disaster now, today, we don’t want to experience (insert global dire consequences) now, either. DId the plants know they were creating an Oxy Disaster? Did they care? Do they have feelings or morals? Why are we comparing sessile beings to beings that regularly zip around at 60mph in weird wheeled boxes?

    While y’all study the long-term ramifications of conflicting natural histories and interpretations thereof, some of us just don’t want to experience — right now, today, or even next year — Terra’s most natural business paradigm shift: mass extinction/startover .

    That process is inarguably underway. How far it will go remains to be seen. I’m not happy about that, and have little time to quarrel with others over the specifics of why I should be unhappy. I just don’t like hard times, that’s all. Especially the kind that makes starving orphans. I really don’t enjoy those.

    When the sky is falling, one has little time or need to blame anyone. Now that I don’t enjoy yelling at the sky. God cusses like a sissy compared to me.

    ***

    Meanwhile, I have extra tickets to the Daily Hate.

    Today’s hatred: Very Bad!

    ***

    Fer Chrissake, none of us are “right”. Thinking that we can be right (by deeming things wrong) is one of those human traits that reliably flip us from the frying pan to the next fire. The concepts of right and wrong are examples of what is called a lie. Other than raw causality, there is nothing right or wrong in our lives, just things we like and don’t.

    I’m reminded of Tongan culture, which is very judgmental and strict, rather vengeful. (Great people, btw.) The Tongan telephone roboperator informs one of dialing a wrong number by saying, “You are bad for using that number.”

    Hmm… starving orphans. Guess I better budge my cheap ass to send Raul some money.

    #127906
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Doc Day: you would please me greatly if you’d stop being an overweening do-gooder and stop addressing me and DBS together. Srsly. What part of ‘Mind Own Business’ don’t you get?.

    #127907
    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    http://www.anandtech.com

    I suspect AnandTech is using AI for some of it’s ‘sponsored’ content. Articles pop up with a new product, or a sale item, and the text reads like a car salesperson who doesn’t quite understand the internal combustion engine. Some of the text is technically accurate and unquestionable, but sometimes it’s an obvious gaffe. I used to work with a salesperson in the computer biz 30+ years ago. She was the best! But she didn’t get the tech, and sometimes ate a shoe or two. “Yes, we can send you a BPI tape!” was stated many times, she being blissfully ignorant of the fact ‘BPI’ is ‘bits per inch’ – the rated density of the tape. It’s the conversational equivalent of the ‘uncanny valley.’

    I don’t think the machines will pass a Turing Test yet, but can they Kobayashi Maru such a test?

    #127908
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Let’s stick to animals for now, eh?

    Let’s just make up random rules

    Also, you’re doing the same thing that your “punishing Xtians” do: making a moral case of an amoral thing.

    A moral judgment was made on something – I responded with the plant analogy, which is amoral. …therefore I’m being a moralistic Christian. Gotcha

    mega-extinctions aren’t bad if plants do them, ARE bad if humans do them. Gotcha.

    So there’s nothing morally bad about extinctions at all, even planet-wide ones, the moral aspect to the question is…. “Something Else.”

    #127909
    John Day
    Participant

    @jb-hb: I AM DOOMED, but it’s ok, because my most natural state is dead, without a human-body, but I’m in the temporarily enhanced state right now, WITH a human body.
    I’ve had a good, full life, with some typical regrets from teenage years. I am currently writing stuff on the icing on the cake.
    🙂

    #127910
    John Day
    Participant

    @Boscohorowitz: I took this as an invitation:
    “Doc day: just cuz it’s none of your business doesn’t mean you’re exscluded.”

    Plus, Frampton story from college working-weekend.

    I like bof Yuz guyz.

    #127911
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Oh yea, that Jensen thing: the fact that some people think we would be wise to address our paleolithic genetic roots does not mean they wish for anyone to squat naked while eating mud.

    ah how the worm has turned

    Allow me to remind you that I listed off the tenets I see as being Jensenite and asked AFKTT what if anything he disagrees with. You jumped in – which you are welcome to do, I appreciate you – and stated you agreed with all of it EXCEPT we don’t need to Tear It All Down, blow up hydroelectic dams etc because it is too late.

    Now we’re just silly to not be sensitive of and be aware of our paleolthic roots?

    The things you jumped in to specifically say you agreed with (I didn’t lead you into it, put words in your mouth, etc – you responded to that specific post and said what the only thing was you disagreed with):

    1. Humans are nothing but animals and should be nothing but animals
    2. Agriculture and everything that came from it was BAD
    3. Civilization is inherently oppressive. Twisted, Evil. Causes everything to BE evil.

    8 billion people need to be gone asap and it would be a good thing if they did

    if we could use a time machine to retroactively get rid of everybody from the start of Agriculture/Civilization forward – such that they didn’t even get to have lives to begin with – that would be a good step too

    we need to tear it all down, starting asap, all the structures, all the infrastructure supporting civilization.

    Any OTHER specific tenets you would like to disavow at this time that you didn’t before?

    #127912
    John Day
    Participant

    One Eukaryotic-cellular organism to another:
    “Photosynthetic plants are way more successful than humans. Been around a LOT longer and will be here when we are gone. Poisoned the atmosphere with O2 (not CO2), causing a mega-dieoff the likes of which we have never and will never see.”

    One Eukaryotic Cell’s trash is another Eukaryotic Cell’s treasure.

    #127913
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    jb-hb: I was not speaking to you not your argument with afktt, which is as useless and pointless but addictive as most human arguments. So some extremists have hijacked a good portion of the “Green’ name. Whatever. It will be something new in a few years.

    I was responding to the general Green Equals EVIL theme, which is silly, and maybe why I even bothered responding. Silliness fascinates me.

    “The things you jumped in to specifically say you agreed with (I didn’t lead you into it, put words in your mouth, etc – you responded to that specific post and said what the only thing was you disagreed with):

    “1. Humans are nothing but animals and should be nothing but animals
    2. Agriculture and everything that came from it was BAD
    3. Civilization is inherently oppressive. Twisted, Evil. Causes everything to BE evil.”

    I never said nor agreed with

    1), which is moot at best.

    2) says ‘everything’ (a meaningless absolute) which disqualifies it at the gate for not really trying to do anything but help you pass stressful time

    3) civilization is inherently hierarchic. I don’t know what evil or good are; I only know what I like and dislike and think is wise or foolish. What happens from there happens.

    “Any OTHER specific tenets you would like to disavow at this time that you didn’t before”

    Yeah. Every.goddam.one. you.stick.in.my.mouth, in the process dislodging what I said.

    Get serious or leave me be, jb. I’m not interested in anyone’s debatory fetish.

    #127914
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    In fact, just leave me alone, period. I’ve extended too much patience, good will, and downright entertaining distraction to you to be treated like this.

    GO fuck your mother with your daddy’s dildo, awreddy… or learn to show decent respect. I know that’s hard to do around here considering the riffraff company we keep, but you can try.

    #127915
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Reading your plant response: yeah, leave me alone, jb. People who practice being deliberately obtuse are people I’m learning to avoid.

    #127916
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “I took this as an invitation:
    “Doc day: just cuz it’s none of your business doesn’t mean you’re exscluded.”

    TO the explanation you asked for, not to prolong the agony. I’m in a frank mood, John: stop trying to be the savior. It gets old. I like you too. And even look up to you. But stop playing Teacher, ok? DBS and I will fight it out on the playground if we choose to, and you can expect to get your nose punched if you dive in. Yeesh.

    #127917
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “mega-extinctions aren’t bad if plants do them, ARE bad if humans do them. Gotcha.”

    NO, you willfully ignorant mutant mongoose. I said I don’t like them when they happen to me or mine, here and now. Being willfully ignorant can be hard to distinguish from being just plain stupid.

    You’re so bored you’re picking fights just cuz.

    #127918
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Empire of Lies® is like Johnny Depp’s character in Dead Man

    It has a lead bullet lodged too close to it’s heart to remove.

    It’s been painted for death ironically with the Russian ‘Z’ on each cheek

    It’s going through the motion of being a ‘sovereign state’ but it’s not.

    It’s a Dead Man that just hasn’t hit the dirt quite yet.

    But it’s coming, wait for it.

    .

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