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ParticipantRaul Ilargi Meijer:
I look at the daily run on The Virus as installments in a comic book series. I’m frankly addicted to them. It’s something to do during the Great Shutdown.
I went for a long walk yesterday, and the number of people strolling about amazed me. Kids (school’s closed) were doing homework on park benches. Everybody was smiling and cheerful. So far, so good.Wasn’t Boeing “just” reflecting what Lagarde said: “Do you want jobs? Or do you want savings accounts?” Boeing didn’t want savings. I’m sure it had nothing to do with pumping up their share price. Jobs! /s
It was unclear as to why jobs or savings were exclusive of each other.So, not yet, RIM. But it’s early.
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ParticipantOh, nuts. My link didn’t work.
“people with blood type A most susceptible to corona virus infection…” from “medRxiv” via Tass.my parents said know
ParticipantSorry Raul- Oxy was quoting you. My apologies.
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ParticipantMy fear, it doth envelop me
‘Til what I fear is all I see.I keep swinging back and forth between “This thing is terrifying” and “We’re in a simulation”.
It could be both or neither, I suppose, but I know that when I think it is terrifying, I’m numb.Oxymoron: I am optimistic. I think people will find that a shared purpose and a sense of community are pretty good substitutions for materialism.
Forced- for a while- to communicate by screen, and prohibited from contact, we will long for the good old days of face to face interactions. They will return.my parents said know
ParticipantThe roller coaster’s headed down.
The world’s all tilt-a-whirl.
They didn’t want to panic you-
Now sit. Now stay!
A squirrel!The voices of the dem candidates last night changed when they talked about The Virus, and I thought: They’re programmed! Just like the people in the press conferences; just like the media folk; just like all the politicians, local to national.
I wondered: do the numbers match the reaction? Would I buy a lottery ticket whose odds were the same as me catching The Virus? Nope.
The Virus is the perfect terrorist (a nod to “Ellis Medavoy”). Anyone can become a victim. Anyone could be the ticking bomb. We are about to have a year with summer beckoning to us, and we are stuck indoors like it’s winter.
The above post at 3:47 is one of Dr. D’s best.
Would the bad guys of the world let loose a bunch of squirrels to distract the watchdogs while the global economy (cough) reconfigured?
Of course they would.
Something ominous is afoot, and it scares me more than SARS-CoV-2.my parents said know
ParticipantWhen I’m coming down with a cold I take a bath so hot as to raise my temperature to fever level.
This usually knocks the virus back so far I escape it, or cuts it back to a mere two to four days instead of ten. Fevers are good, unless they get too high.
Iceland. Hot springs. Does The Virus survive?
I wonder if the youngsters who are contracting it are asthmatics on corticosteroids? The only demographics on the stricken are age, gender, and nation. It’s pretty clear that Italy’s bug is not the same as Korea’s (or that Italians are not Koreans).
Raul Ilargi Meijer: You are a treasure. Thank-you. The check is in the mail.my parents said know
ParticipantBiolabs and Pharma
Sitting in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
First comes CoV
Then comes carnage.
Then come profits in the mega-tonnage.Sorry. It’s an assonance.
Man- I sure wish there was a sarcasm font.
Not that I’d know how to use it.Meanwhile, over at yesterday’s Kunstler, a poster named “Pucker” (March 13, 2020. 6:28pm; 8:41pm) has posted bits from John M. Barry’s
“The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History” (Too long to repost.)
Scary stuff, RNA viruses. No reliable vaccines. No immunity, either.my parents said know
Participant“Their research is based on one of the world’s first lab-grown copies of SARS-CoV-2.”
“one of”
Yup.my parents said know
ParticipantThought experiment:
Will business deals be more or less satisfactory when face-to-face contact is restricted?
I have known business people who insist on human contact when making deals, but these people are often charming bullshitters and not particularly trusted by those who know them personally. Their charm closes the deal, not the facts or data.
If people must make a deals based on the information before them, and not the personal sway of the handshaker, might more satisfactory deals be more likely?my parents said know
ParticipantLet’s pretend that you had “the flu” a couple weeks back (and you wisely steered clear of medical facilities). You test because you need to know if you can now visit Grampa. You test to see if you should not visit your friend undergoing chemo. You test to see if you can return to your job in the nursing home. You test because tests are cheap, and will soon be abundant, and even accurate.
Do we get immunity from exposure to this virus? Isn’t one of the horrors of this particular virus that your own immune response is the deadly part?I don’t know. My head spins with all the “information” I have read and heard about this thing. There are at least two strains (maybe five?) “L” is very bad; “S” not as bad. Which is it where you live? Does exposure to “S” give immunity to “L”?
You test because data are fun.
We hope the strain will eventually weaken. The instant cull with an intensive care overload is brutal.I’m listening to the President’s market-boosting chat: a long-wait test is probably worse than useless. It will have to be as instant as possible, with a self-quarantine until the results come in.
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ParticipantMy earlier post should have said “Moon of Alabama, Information Clearing House March 12” for the quote.
The same MoA who wrote for FireDogLake?
Also: Yea for Chelsea Manning!my parents said know
ParticipantI would have added “vanity wars” and “buy back their own stock” to the list of foolish reasons to go into debt, but I suspect those will continue.
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ParticipantTesting is not done to make sure people breath easier (sorry)- it is to assess the situation. Anyone who dies of a respiratory illness should be tested. (I’d even dig up a few of those vaping victims.) Anyone who comes in with severe respiratory illness should be tested. Anyone who goes to a clinic just to get tested because they feel a bit ill is crazy.
It’s the analysis of how many likely have it now that matters. Cluster. Cluster. Boom.
The markets are doing what so many knew was coming. Who couldn’t see that a world where someone went into debt to go on a cruise, or fly to a destination wedding, or buy the latest 600hp vehicle, or even purchase dubious IPOs was a world that was not going to continue?
There are two things going on here. SARS-CoV-2 is a mighty convenient excuse for the other one. They are both deadly serious.my parents said know
Participant“The message from the federal government was blunt. “What they said on that phone call very clearly was cease and desist to Helen Chu,” Dr. Lindquist [the state epidemiologist in Washington] remembered. “Stop testing.””
Moon of Alabama.
My understanding of dangerous people: Psychopaths do not seek approval, as narcissists do. They don’t feel rage or hatred as narcissists do (just try and stop a raging narcissist!), but if the deaths of others (including their own kids) empowers or enriches them, that’s not a problem. Sociopaths are created by circumstance- a kind of synthetic psychopath (think Calley at My Lai in Viet Nam). They tend towards vengeance and payback, and revel in personal triumph. They are extremely dangerous if they have power and situation in their favor. (A nod here to The Last Psychiatrist.)Testing would indicate a need to quarantine now, as Moon of Alabama wants. Demanding that tests not be done means the psychopaths behind this response haven’t got what they want yet. The deaths of pensioners and aged gov’t assistance recipients seems to be part of the goal.
While some fancy voices on the pages of Zerohedge proclaimed cash to be useless, others mentioned the fanciest folk to have been hoarding cash. Considering the graph of the DJIA in the 20s, there was a lot of “up” followed by “bigger down”. I’m pretty sure some came out of the 20s as the most powerful psychopaths in the nation. They didn’t crow, but proceeded to take over the US government.
I see the future of the US as neofeudal- a nation owned by the powerful, rented out to the power-hungry, and worked by the powerless, of which there are far too many in their dystopic dreams.
They will tax you off of that little hundred acre Eden in fly-over country. There will be no havens. Show yourself to be resistant to their hazing (kill someone you love or admire; preform repugnant acts with a private audience, etc.) and they will eliminate you.
Psychopaths collect narcissists and sociopaths, as they make useful knights in their kingdoms.
Psychopaths ARE superior, when material wealth is the marker. They ARE superior, when love doesn’t count.
Taking care of yourself for the sake of the community is an act of love. That’s why they will not test: you must not take care.
Love is the enemy of the psychopath.my parents said know
ParticipantI am overwhelmed with sadness for Chelsea Manning. Do her judges and jailers tell themselves they are the good guys? Or that they are just doing their jobs?
Coercive incarceration? Geez.my parents said know
ParticipantThanks, zerosum.
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ParticipantA website sells test kits- the fancy ones are $1500 for 150 tests. I didn’t go far enough to find out who can buy them, but 10 bucks a pop is a far cry from the 2000-3000 bucks some have been charged.
I don’t know how to do links. usbio should call it up.my parents said know
ParticipantCorona virus is now a pandemic, says WHO.
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ParticipantSo I asked him: isn’t there anywhere where you got something you loved and it was not a reward for something you had done?
He insisted there was not.
I looked at him and asked, “what about us?”
Do you recognize there are things that cascade over us that we had no hand in, and these are the things that shape our lives?my parents said know
ParticipantPet My Legs.
(Joe Biden his time in 2020)
I will now try to revert back to the sort of nice person I usually am.
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ParticipantSort of on topic:
There is a pretty little lake where I live. We have a slip on it, and the water is so clear you can see 15 ft down. It won’t stay that way. A beautifully built, very old 3000-5000 sf mansion on a densely wooded lot is a “tear-down”. The new ones (90% of which have a @&!%ing TURRET or two on them) are 15,000–30,000+ square feet of architectural goo. They are rarely occupied by anyone but the help, with the groundskeepers diligently poisoning and fertilizing the many acres of perfect grass, which covers the murdered roots of 200 year old oaks. The milfoil and algae are doing very, very well, except on their thousand foot shoreline boulder-scaped beaches, which they also poison.
I gotta think they (or rather the LLC “persons” that own them) are not happy right now.
Schadenfreude! It’s what’s for dinner!They will walk away from these monstrosities when things go south. They couldn’t possibly be attached to them. Or they could become sanatoriums…
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ParticipantGlenjeff: Heh. Chaos theory.
Sounds about right.my parents said know
ParticipantOh- and my kudos to Cathal were for his Feb 20th marker. I’d say things changed that day, because the 21st was a real surprise.
I just have a soft spot for the guy. You, too, Dr D. (smiley emoji face)my parents said know
ParticipantDr D: (From last night)
I have become somewhat familiar with Armstrong (not the other two) but Cathal was MY first intro to the concept of “The Reset”. He didn’t mean a cyclical reset, however. He meant the end of the world as we know it, kind of like Martenson’s viewpoint, but much, much worse unless the psychopaths can keep the plates spinning.
I don’t know much about The Market, but it looks to me like that’s where inflation is “hiding”. I expect the latest developments will bring it closer to home, but it won’t look like the 80s when interest rates were so high. I can’t wrap my head around negative interest rates, but I’m sure it doesn’t bode well for my digital “wealth”. History would suggest war will become much more personal, soon (if it hasn’t already done so with these viruses).my parents said know
ParticipantI would like to give a shout out to Cathal Haughian, who said on feb 15, 2020 that in five days the reset would begin. if you haven’t heard of him, check him out. He was the first guy I knew to use the term “reset” [as it is meant now], and I think I will bury my copies of his three books in a time capsule in my back yard.
Cheers, Putrid!my parents said know
ParticipantHey! My state has joined the eerily bluestatish map of cases of Sars-CoV-2 (US).
I hope she’s okay.
I have a picture of a cruise ship on my refrigerator (which still accepts magnets) that has my sharpie heading on it: THIS IS HELL.
You couldn’t PAY me enough to take a cruise ship voyage. i feel claustrophobic just thinking of it. And the tiny towns that are ruined with the tourism… Ah, yes , money, money, money… but at what cost?
What are the other benefits of this Covid nightmare? I wanted a market correction, for example, but i was hoping it would be a correction of value. I did not wish that value itself would evaporate.
Geez. I almost want to take out a loan- my parents did alright with their cheap mortgages- 4% when mine was 14%. A 2.5% loan… what could go wrong?my parents said know
Participant“Is the USA going to let the homeless die in the street because they cannot pay for a bed in a care home or a hospital?”
Hmmmmm.
Yup.my parents said know
ParticipantDr D: Jon Rappoport (Nomorefakenews) has been down on flu statistics for a long time. Ed Curtain has a post that points out that the CDC admits to 3,482 flu deaths [as of the post, which is March 2].
We get sick. Sometimes we get really, really sick. Most of the time we never know what hit us.
By the way, I have seen death by cancer much too often now to care about heart disease at my late stage of life. Give me a heart attack any day.my parents said know
ParticipantI just need to get this in and then I’ll go back up and read the bits:
Everclear comes in 75.5% and 95% grades of pure ethanol. I carry a tiny spray bottle of it with me in the wintertime- I just spritz the potentially offending surface or my hands (I hate the goo in the purell-type stuff). It takes a bit of time for to evaporate, and the spritzer I use produces an extremely fine mist.
When I get colds, I get ’em bad. They so often “go away” and then drop into my lungs a week later.
Do corticosteroids play any role in the treatment of these viruses?my parents said know
ParticipantWho gets it? There have to be similarities (oldsters, immunocompromised, infirm) that we think we know of, but the only one they seem to be sharing that merits extreme curiosity is that pre-adolescents seem to be immune[?].
So many people have taken genetic tests- don’t tell me the fancy-folk aren’t looking at the info.
I watched a hearing today on cspan- the only really pertinent question was “how are you going to ensure the uncompensated won’t work when they are ill?” Does any of the $8+ billion deal with that?
What are the commonalities of the victims? We can do this now. We can say “you are the ones who go to the store and drop it off at the house of the stricken”; “you should stay out of the public spaces.”
It’s the year of the knockout rat.
Dr D: do you scare yourself sometimes?my parents said know
ParticipantOn a totally different path, but pertinent, I think, to the virus: can anyone imagine a [mathematical] model without boundaries? I play “Bayesian” bridge, for example- much to the consternation of my fellows- but I think that modeling the virus needs to consider this sort of thing: par[a/i]meters expand; results may vary. Humans are sooooo boundary-obsessed. What does the math look like on the boundaries of a model?
By the way, I usually only get here after a bottle of wine. Villa Cafaggio Chianti Classico 2010, to be exact. Good-night, all.my parents said know
ParticipantOkay, I have to admit that I buy bottled water sometimes, too- in those really flimsy little bottles that crumple enough to fit in my back pocket. Hunting mushrooms is very thirsty business (I can hardly wait until May!) I reuse them until they leak.
Speaking of leaks, the market-balloon today kept getting pumped up but continued to leak until just before the close, whereupon someone figured out how to patch latex under pressure.
Costco is up 10%.
(For no reason other than that it just popped into my head: Depravity, depravity; reliable as gravity.)
Grammar correction from my post above: Aren’t people getting the virus confused with an EMP?my parents said know
ParticipantWill someone explain why people are stocking up on bottled water? I just heard it again on Bloomberg, and read about it yesterday happening in Hawaii and at Costco’s around the land. Do they think the water will be turned off for some reason? Isn’t this virus getting confused with an EMP?
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ParticipantWould they test a dead body?
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Participant“Two Japanese dogs tested positive…” ZH
“Pets belonging to Hongkongers with confirmed coronavirus to be quarantined, says paper” Tass
Awww, man!my parents said know
ParticipantCover your eyes, not just your nose and mouth. Wear gloves. Sell your facial recognition technology stock. Heh.
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ParticipantRIM, thanks. Are they all dying of a cytokine storm? Or are some “just” dying of pneumonia that gets out hand?
This new virus almost seems engineered (HIV? Ebola?!)- I would be as suspicious of a vaccine as I am of nCoV itself.
So is this an autoimmune disease? Are all those asymptomatic children (and adults) being set up for an iffy future?
“Let’s call it pure luck” seemed like an odd phrase for the researcher to use.my parents said know
ParticipantVia the Jerusalem Post (which freezes up my computer) and ZH: Israeli scientists say they will have a vaccine in three weeks, and may be able to roll it out in three months.
I was surprised that Bloomberg TV didn’t mention it- nor anyone on the Washington Journal (cspan) this morning.my parents said know
ParticipantPaper, journals, pencils, pens;
Puzzles, games and playing cards;
Real books and music stuff,
So roughing it won’t be so rough.my parents said know
ParticipantOn a lighter note (about the picture): Saddle shoes!
I AM MAKING THIS UP :
In what could be a brilliant move for oligarchic presidential candidate Bloomberg, he has decided to redirect some of his incalculable wealth to start manufacturing antibiotics and other medical necessities and paraphernalia here in the United States. Not to be outdone, oligarchic incumbent Trump says he will go forth and do likewise, and his stuff will be beautiful and PERFECT.
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