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Roy Lichtenstein Woman With Flowered Hat 1963

 

 

Well, Dr. D is back again. You might want to sit down for this one.

 

 

Dr. D: In my last article I wrote about cows and hay and unrealistic estimates of production of the land. But surely that is all academic. What could possibly force Americans to once again eat by the sweat of their brow?

Insider military think tank Deagel.com. The think tank that in 2015 estimated the death of 200M Americans by 2025.

Deagel – Forecast 2025

The Great Reset; like the climate change, extinction rebellion, planetary crisis, green revolution, shale oil (…) hoaxes promoted by the system; is another attempt to slow down dramatically the consumption of natural resources and therefore extend the lifetime of the current system. It can be effective for awhile but finally won’t address the bottom-line problem and will only delay the inevitable. The core ruling elites hope to stay in power which is in effect the only thing that really worries them.


The collapse of the Western financial system – and ultimately the Western civilization – has been the major driver in the forecast along with a confluence of crisis with a devastating outcome. As COVID has proven Western societies embracing multiculturalism and extreme liberalism are unable to deal with any real hardship. The Spanish flu one century ago represented the death of 40-50 million people.

Today the world’s population is four times greater with air travel in full swing which is by definition a super spreader. The death casualties in today’s World would represent 160 to 200 million in relative terms but more likely 300-400 million taking into consideration the air travel factor that did not exist one century ago. So far, COVID death toll is roughly 1 million people. It is quite likely that the economic crisis due to the lockdowns will cause more deaths than the virus worldwide.

The Soviet system was less able to deliver goodies to the people than the Western one. Nevertheless Soviet society was more compact and resilient under an authoritarian regime. That in mind, the collapse of the Soviet system wiped out 10 percent of the population. The stark reality of diverse and multicultural Western societies is that a collapse will have a toll of 50 to 80 percent depending on several factors but in general terms the most diverse, multicultural, indebted and wealthy (highest standard of living) will suffer the highest toll.

The only glue that keeps united such aberrant collage from falling apart is overconsumption with heavy doses of bottomless degeneracy disguised as virtue. Nevertheless the widespread censorship, hate laws and contradictory signals mean that even that glue is not working any more. Not everybody has to die migration can also play a positive role in this.


We expected this situation to unfold and actually is unfolding right now with the November election triggering a major bomb if Trump is re-elected. If Biden is elected there will very bad consequences as well. There is a lot of bad blood in the Western societies and the protests, demonstrations, rioting and looting are only the first symptoms of what is coming. However a new trend is taking place overshadowing this one…

Six years ago the likelihood of a major war was tiny. Since then it has grown steadily and dramatically and today is by far the most likely major event in the 2020s. The ultimate conflict can come from two ways. A conventional conflict involving at least two major powers that escalates into an open nuclear war. …

If there is not a dramatic change of course the world is going to witness the first nuclear war. The Western block collapse may come before, during or after the war. It does not matter. A nuclear war is a game with billions of casualties and the collapse plays in the hundreds of millions.” – Deagel, September 25, 2020

Now clearly this is ridiculous. Even these new, revised estimates have population drop in the U.S. to 99 Million in 4 years.

 

 

So what do we see here? A catastrophic event that hurts only very specific nations, leaving nearby neighbors untouched or even improved. That is, not a climate event or asteroid strike. It hurts a few nations most specifically, that is, Britain, U.S., Germany, Israel, France, Australia, Italy, S. Korea, Saudi Arabia.

What do these nations all have in common? They are the Western Allies, and under the Western fiat central banking system. While India and Asia prosper most, conspicuous in the list is China and Russia, presumably the Axis in any new war. China takes a massive numbers hit, but a unimportant percentage hit. Russia is unmoved. That would seem to rule out wars of food, wars of money, and wars with Russia or in Europe.

What type of singular event can kill several billion people in just 4 years, leaving some nations erased and some nations untouched? Not economic wars. Not conventional wars.

That leaves nuclear and biological war, almost certainly a first-strike surprise war. Clearly this will not be with Russia, which would take more injury in a counter attack, so a first strike surprise war from China, perhaps via close proxy North Korea, as they are the only two Axis countries that (presumably) take any damage. They are counter-attacked, but weakly. Their own allies, in SE Asia, are unharmed. Australia is depopulated and easy to conquer. As is the United States, but not Canada or Mexico. Note if they attacked India they would be nuked again and open second front in a land war in Asia against an equal power, and China leaves them alone for this round, the presumed Deagel scenario.

Now what did I just tell you a few weeks ago?

If China doesn’t conquer and colonize the United States, they die.

That seems true for Australia, or at least corollary. Here’s the same phrase: If China DOES conquer and colonize the United States, WE die.

Now why would they do that? Their people are rioting with dissent, of increased expectations that have been capped. There are more riots and protests in China than anywhere on earth, both in percentage, and sheer numbers, and riot of 250,000 is rightfully identified as a mortal threat. There are no longer any food exports worldwide. The U.S. and to some extent Australia are the only ones. China is the net food importer, having everything else. If they do not solve their food and space problem, they – or rather the CCP – are overthrown and die. If the CCP can solve the food and space problem, they are heroes, stay in power, and prosper for a generation.

Is there any reason to believe China would undertake such a unprecedented, violent act? Well, when we ask if they would murder 70% of all Americans, they are presently erasing 70% of all Uighers who are their own citizens, and in the most brutal, appalling, and mercantile ways. Taking their property. Selling their slave labor. Harvesting their live organs. Selling their women to a man-heavy population thanks to an earlier wave of murder and genocide. So if they are happy to kill 70% of their own people – who they consider inferior, not being Han, and are proud to the world about the fact – how much easier is it to kill 70% of your major rival and solve all your problems for 100 years?

It’s your Lebensraum for a Socialist State-Corporate entity, totalitarian, race-based, using the fascio of combining government, industrial, and corporate power into one. There could hardly be any difference, and are along the same timeline as 1938. They are imprisoning their own people by ethnic origin and social-credit cooperation scores, then killing them for efficiency, while the West denies this is happening and refuses to prepare or respond, or in fact gleefully cooperates with open concentration camps, buying and selling cheap misery.

Surely this is slander, from a military-complex site selling military hardware and predictions. There is nothing from the Chinese to substantiate such an attack.

“A senior Chinese general has warned that his country could destroy hundreds of American cities if the two nations clash over Taiwan.” –The Guardian This week clashing over Taiwan as China has escalated buzzing Taiwanese and American ships and airspace.

In 2005 “Major General Zhu Shin Hu, Dean of the National Defense University, Speaking at a lecture, he said “War logic dictates that a weaker power needs to use maximum effort to defeat a stronger rival. If the Americans draw their missiles and position guided ammunition on to the target zone on Chinese territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons.” And goes on to describe destroying hundreds of American cities in a nuclear war over Taiwan. 15 years ago.

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Deputy Chief PLA Juang Won Kai, “ Americans should worry more about Los Angeles than Taipei. They will be using nuclear weapons in the Taiwan conflict.” Kai later was diplomat to the United States.

“20 years of the idyllic theme of ‘peace and development’ have come to an end, and concluded that modernization under the saber is the only option for China’s next phase. I also mention we have a vital stake overseas.”

More alarmingly, General Chi Houtian in a speech to the CCP before 2003, said, “in an online survey asking if Chinese would shoot at women, children, and prisoners of war, more than 80% answered in the affirmative. …The purpose of the survey is to…If China’s development will necessitate massive deaths in enemy countries, will our people endorse that scenario [and] be for…it?”

After highlighting the similar youth propaganda departments he says,

China is alarmingly similar to Germany back then. Both of them regard themselves as the most superior races; both of them have a history of being exploited by foreign powers and are therefore vindictive; both of them have the tradition of worshiping their own authorities; both of them feel they have seriously insufficient living space; both of them raise high the two banners of nationalism and socialism and label themselves as ‘national socialists’; both of them worship ‘one party, one state, one leader, one doctrine.’”


“We don’t have to worry about the labels of ‘totalitarianism’ or ‘dictatorship’. Whether we [the CCP] can forever represent the Chinese people depends on whether we can succeed in leading the Chinese people out of China. …Whether we can lead the Chinese people out of China is the most important determinant of the CCP”.

Lebensraum. Living space. Down the Silk Road. Expansion, conquest that – according to their own party and generals – is the only way the CCP leadership survives. Nationalist, hypermilitary expansion is the last hallmark of fascist regimes, a most grave one, as other nations therefore cannot entirely respect national boundaries and sovereignty.

How will they lead the Chinese out and conquer new lands?

“Once we open our doors, the profit-seeking western capitalists will invest capital and technology in China to assist our development so they can occupy the largest market in the world. …the most favorable environment for foreign capital, foreign technology, and advanced experience in China. …China’s economic expansion will inevitably come with significant development in our military forces, creating conditions for our expansion overseas. …China…is advancing into the world and has become unstoppable.”

“Solving the issue of America is key to solving all other issues. This makes it possible for us to have many people migrate there and establish another China under the CCP. …America was discovered by the yellow race [and] we are entitled to the possession of the land.

…The residents of the yellow race have a very low social status in the United States. We need to liberate them. After solving the ‘issue of America’, the western countries of Europe will bow to us , not to mention Japan, Taiwan…” – General Chi Haotain

Lebensraum. The master race. Liberating nations as a duty to their racial brothers. At the expense of inferior races.

“We must transcend conventions and restrictions. In history, [one] could not kill all the people in the conquered land because you could not kill people effectively [enough]. …Only by using special means to ‘clean up’ America will we be able to lead people there. This is the only choice left to us. It is not a matter of whether we are willing.


…What kind of special methods do we have to ‘clean up’ America? …We are not as foolish as to want to perish together with America by using nuclear weapons… There has been a rapid development in modern biological technology, and new bio-weapons have been developed one after the other. …We are capable of ‘cleaning up’ America all of a sudden. Lethal weapons that can eliminate mass populations of the enemy country.”

But it’s not all bad:

“From a humanitarian perspective, we should issue a warning to the American people and persuade them to leave America and leave the land to the Chinese people. Or they should at least leave half of America to be China’s colony…but if this strategy does not work, there is only one choice left…”

“That is, use decisive means to ‘clean up’ America in a moment. …Historical experience has been that as long as we make it happen, nobody in the world can do anything about us. Furthermore, if the United States as leader is gone, then our other enemies have to surrender to us.”

If the Americans do not die, then the Chinese have to die. If the Chinese are strapped to the land, a total societal collapse is bound to take place. …[Then] more than half the Chinese people will die, and that figure will be 800 million. …The Great Collapse will occur at any time and more than half the population will have to go. …The population can be reproduced. But if the Party falls, everything is gone, and forever gone.”

How very like our own Western leaders.

Cool story bro. I feel for your position. Now let me ask you a question: If you knew you were running out of food and space, why did you pave every rice paddy and poison every river? Wouldn’t you rather take 6 time zones of Russian lands which are lush, actually empty, and on your own border? And how ARE you out of space when the entire Gobi desert, or indeed much of north and western China, are as empty as the United States?

You might not have heard, but most of the United States was also considered a desert, a wasteland from Iowa to San Diego that would never be occupied by humankind, yet through hard work and imagination we created the innovation that has made our prosperity and our population possible. It only seems easy now, in hindsight, like some automatic miracle we didn’t deserve. Yet, in the most high-tech era ever recorded, I think no less of the power of men on the Silk Road or Mongolia.

So perhaps I’m asking: are you really sure you NEED to do this? Or is it just that America is big, rich, and shiny and you WANT to do this? You WANT to do to Americans what you do to the Uighurs. Because I strongly suspect the latter.

The specifics of their plan was revealed elsewhere, the “1, 3, 5, 7, 9 Plan”
1 Create a bioweapon
3 Make it available in three years (from 2017)
5 Insure effectiveness for 5 years.
7 Paralyze the 7 Western countries including Japan and India.
9 Release vaccines 9 months later to blackmail the world.

Now, is that the plan that was just attempted in 2019? Or was that a beta test for a real, upcoming attack? Was this genocide deflected, the payload of the “China Virus”, hollowed out, only narrowly missed? Or is that mere slander? Do we know? Can we tell?

The West of course would fight such an attack. In 1994, in a world conference in San Francisco’s Fairmont Hotel including H. Bush and M. Thatcher, Xin He reported, “The outstanding people of the world attendance thought that in the 21st century a mere 20% of the world’s population would be adequate to maintain the world’s economy and prosperity. The other 80% will be human garbage, unable to produce…high-tech means should be used to eliminate them gradually .”

That also sounds like our Western leaders.

Remember “Event 201”, promoted by these very same ‘outstanding people’? “ In the simulation, the virus infected the globe within six months, and killed 65 million people, triggering a global financial crisis. All of this took place just months before COVID-19 emerged.” Gee that sounds familiar. Good timing too. So good it almost defies credulity.

This goes along with the long-held rumor that the U.S. was planned and positioned to be in a war and to lose it. Many aspects, from causing unnecessary and unusual internal strife, to the complete erasure of our manufacturing and production – except for food – as well as our sale or loss of most military secrets to China, support such a hypothesis. Then there is the open exposure of Chinese agents with Feinstein for 20 years, and Swalwell, both of whom were on high-level committees.

Worse, when this was exposed, nothing was done, hinting at a much deeper level of capture, where some agents and proxies appear to be clearly covering and supporting other Chinese proxies against the interests of the people of the United States. They do not explain how they thought it remotely possible that with 20% of the population they could defend a rich, empty, unproductive West from complete, inevitable Chinese conquest. Perhaps China did not remind them.

The problem could be, it probably is, far deeper, harder, graver, and wider than we on the outside can contemplate. While I disagree – for in a democracy the people must be informed to make hard, informed decisions – we can see that many times the attempt has been made to inform people, and the facts are widely and regularly rebuffed and rejected. If you started here, where I have, the general population would say you were simply being political, ginning up for more war profits, or are simply lying and making it up simply because they haven’t heard it before. The truth has been intentionally withheld in favor of colored trinkets for 40 years. All attempts to prevent it have been shot down. That isn’t reversed in a day.

Now I’m not saying Deagel is right. Already they’ve had to update their 2015 prediction. However, we can infer from this that the present situation is far more complicated than cartoon. Far deeper and more grave than Twitter. It transcends one man, one party, or even one generation. And can help illuminate why certain positions, certain actions, certain reactions, and certain IN-actions, may have happened right now.

While I don’t personally feel this is our future, I do believe the situation as described is entirely true. There are such opinions and such plans and such weapons. Therefore it should be dealt with in our own lives, and in the actions of our country, in the firm, defensive preparations that Americans are known for. Regardless of such a war, which should naturally be avoided, a number of other responses are indicated:

1) Remove as much reliance on China as possible without crippling them either. We already learned we do not have medicines, masks, rare earths, or semiconductors here, as well as learning their steel and raw materials may be intentionally substandard and undermining. This especially includes communications infrastructure.

2) Our own nation needs much attention and support with the re-opening of our own parallel manufacturing that must also be dispersed so as not to be a single target for destruction or capture.

3) The U.S. Dollar and financial system is wholly established on financeering and imports. This comes from the too-high dollar and world reserve currency that necessitates the destruction of internal production and complete hollowing of business, culture, politics, psychology, society, and morality. Yet its reversal and replacement will be extremely disruptive, and the loss of the reserve currency will quite suddenly drop us from emperor to peer. Nevertheless, this can not be delayed or avoided.

4) The U.S. Military, with the loss of the reserve currency, must retreat home, and therefore needs to re-tool and re-position rapidly to a defensive role, while still maintaining the overwhelming deterrent effect on China, and helping allies – thus preventing China from taking over the world nation-by-nation. Defense is enormously cheaper and easier, and as an ally, not an empire, our position would be far easier and more supported. This published reality may cause other nations to take more action than we could alone. While at home we may follow the Swiss model of having every man capable of arms and the materials secretly cached and available in each town.

5) While we may not have to come back to God to have the internal sense of equality, justice, morality, and enthusiasm for self-denial and hardship this will require, historically nothing else has sufficed for the righting of the ship and return to a forgiving, cohesive unity, and not weakening, atomized discord.

6) Along with our own ports, canals, rivers, grids, and mines, we need to maintain our own food production and distribution, and counter-intuitively sell it to our own rival or enemy. First, cutting off food must cause a certain war just as the embargo of Japanese oil did in 1940. Second, and not innocently, food is a major export we already have when we are no longer an importer of exorbitant privilege. Not less, as equals, we can always promote ourselves as being a friend and thereby encourage our rivals to pass through where they are or what plans they may have in favor of a stable peace that advantages all. Or else, like Switzerland, we must be certain to communicate we will most assuredly make them wish they had for their plans will not succeed.

7) We must recognize that such weapons are a reality now that cannot be reversed but must be accounted for and avoided with new strategies and new consciousness that does not require gain at the expense of others. The experience of the U.S. in making deserts bloom with the simplest tools is a good example.

Now these are easily supported by all Americans, all except the very few who are profiting by the existing system. So should there be a war or no war, with China or no China, all these responses are good for the country, the individual, and the world.

They are also workable in our own lives. As we’ve seen recently with massive, unpredictable, and longstanding supply disruptions that are only cured with more local production, smaller businesses, and local food. We see how having far more preparation, far more resiliency, far more local support, are important, both in hardship, but in our daily lives as well. Producing more, with more meaning, and consuming less, but better, are the only ways we can exit both this peril, and our own national failings at home.

 

 

 

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  • #69196

    Roy Lichtenstein Woman With Flowered Hat 1963     Well, Dr. D is back again. You might want to sit down for this one.     Dr. D: I
    [See the full post at: Forecast What?]

    #69198
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    War via Asian Massage Parlors and white sugar daddies. Give me death, murder and mayhem like that any day over over the obliterating effects of thermonuclear war, carpet bombing, predator drone assassination, and the torture/murder of children by my country’s elite leaders.

    #69201
    zerosum
    Participant

    This is not a dream. Its a nightmare
    Even the 1% and the enablers will become garbage

    The West of course would fight such an attack. In 1994, in a world conference in San Francisco’s Fairmont Hotel including H. Bush and M. Thatcher, Xin He reported, “The outstanding people of the world attendance thought that in the 21st century a mere 20% of the world’s population would be adequate to maintain the world’s economy and prosperity. The other 80% will be human garbage, unable to produce…high-tech means should be used to eliminate them gradually .”

    #69204
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Doomer porn, like all porn, sells best to audiences with no personal experience of the real thing. And I think I can safely deduce that no one in today’s audience has experienced the end of the world.

    There are commercial advantages to this form of publication and idea propagation, the first of which is that no one in the audience can prove the authors wrong in any of the alleged details. The second big advantage is that in the unlikely event of TEOTWAWKI actually happening there won’t be many disappointed customers to drag ya into court for misrepresentation.

    I look at it this way. Contemplation of Doomsday is fun, entertaining, and constructive. Done properly it gets ya thinking about changing your low-down-ways so as to assure the survival of ones self and loved ones . Wanna be the ” Last Persons Standing” ? Then clean up your act. The sort of compelling motivation to self improvement that we could all use more of. Helps sell a lot of survival goods and hardware too, so there’s that.

    My only problem with the genre is that I have yet to see even one example of it in which the victims behave like actual living breathing functioning human beings, for whom the instinct and impulse to survive surpasses all other instinctual drives.

    This oft overlooked characteristic of life explains the miracle of Fukushima. A 20 foot high wall of water unexpectedly swept over a densely built up coastline housing millions of people, destroying half a million structures in minutes and yet killed less than 20,000 people and negatively impacted GDP by less than half of a percentage point. How is that even possible ?

    When confronted by reality, people get real. . . . real fast.

    #69205
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Yes.

    And let’s manufacture in a big way again with workers cooperatives so that economic power is distributed throughout our economy, rather than closely held by a relatively small number of players at the top of business and government.

    #69206
    christianarchist
    Participant

    Greetings,
    I have been listening to, learning from, and enjoying the conversations at TAE for well over a year, but have until now discerned no point of entry for myself. I have a memory that pertains to this post, however, and some questions I’ve been waiting to pose to this small community, so here we go.

    First the memory:
    Some 15 +\- 2 years ago I was a grad student at the University of Washington, attempting to straddle the divide between “earth and space sciences” and urban planning. There were regular guest seminars, and one of them I attended was a presentation by a NASA scientist on a study that used land-cover classifications derived from satellite data to estimate the impact of urbanization on agricultural productivity. The talk was technical and uncontroversial, but during the Q&A session afterward the presenter said something that stuck with me, though no one else seemed to think much of it. He said that at a remote sensing conference in China he attended a few months earlier he had pointed out to a Chinese colleague that the NASA analysis showed that the agricultural productivity of the United States had hardly been affected by urbanization, but the story was quite the opposite in China and the trend was not good. The NASA fellow asked if that was a concern, at which the Chinese colleague said something along the lines of “no, we will just eat from the American land.”

    And now, after a bit of context, I have some questions for y’all:
    The good doctor’s prescriptions seem well-advised, if one is in a position to influence what the greater “we” does. I am not in that position. I have 3 young (<5 years old) children, a teenager, and a full time job that is needed to pay for land rent, food, and modest entertainments, and to service debt inherited from a previous bad marriage. It can sometimes take the better part of a day for my wife and me to finish a short conversation. I live and work among comfortable, professional-class urbanites. I can talk to almost no-one about the sort of things that are discussed at TAE; apart from my wife there is only one other person in my circle of acquaintances who is not deeply propagandized by MSM. Questions arise:
    1. If some great struggle against fascism (Great Reset, CCP take-over, or whatever) is in the offing, what are isolated dissidents to do? Is there some place where those inclined to resistance and liberty are sufficiently dense on the ground to have some hope of mounting resistance, but not so dense as to be easily massacred?
    2. Is there anywhere that the authorities are not hopelessly compromised?
    3. How can those of us disinclined to go along with “the elimination of all human rights forever” resist that, or effectively work toward “return to a forgiving, cohesive unity”, when we are just isolated dissidents communicating over monitored channels, with all the vulnerability that entails?

    All the best,
    CA

    #69208
    dermotmoconnor
    Participant

    Raul I really wish you’d stop giving a soapbox to a deluded man who gets his worldview from the Book of Revelations (and that’s probably the least sinister of his epistemological wells). Doomer porn is right, a signal is in there with the Noise, but man is there a LOT of noise.

    I’ve read more than my fair share of this stripe of reactionary-right doomer machismo over the years, it’s the sort of muck that required shoveling on the old LATOC boards. It reeks – a perfect mirror of Nicole Foss’s Trump Derangement Syndrome, which is equally nauseating and sad. Can’t listen to her any more either.

    J.M. Greer has his faults, but dear Christ, a few drops of Archdruidry would go a long way for Dr. D and his ilk. Here, have some R.A. Wilson he’ll do just as well.

    QUOTE: “All conspiracy buffs are persecuted eventually. This is a sociological law on which I would stake my life, because I have seen it confirmed in every conspiracy-seeking group I’ve ever known. Perhaps the persecution is created by the conspiracy-seekers themselves (in the sense that every neurotic creates his own problems), or perhaps the mad satire in Illuminatus is true after all and every conspiracy ever imagined actually exists. The fact remains that those who believe the world is run by the Jesuits get persecuted as much as those who believe it is run by the Elders of Zion; and those who believe it is run by the Rockefellers get persecuted in exactly equal measure. People who believe the Air Force is deliberately hiding the facts about the UFOs get persecuted by a special group of sinister beings known as the Men in Black, who claim to be Air Force officers—but who are (naturally) denied by the Air Force. There almost seems to be a neurotic-psionic law: whatever you fear most will eventually come after you.

    The shaman, of course, lives through this process on more levels than the ordinary paranoid, because the shaman is determined to confront every terror and conquer it. Many, however, are shamans without knowing it, and invoke their private demons in total ignorance, thinking it is all coming from outside themselves…

    In researching occult conspiracies, one eventually faces a crossroad of mythic proportions (called Chapel Perilous in the trade). You come out the other side either stone paranoid or an agnostic; there is no third way. I came out agnostic.

    Chapel Perilous, like the mysterious entity called “I,” cannot be located in the space-time continuum; it is weightless, odorless, tastless and undetectable by ordinary instruments. Indeed, like the Ego, it is even possible to deny that it is there. And yet, even more like the Ego, once you are inside it, there doesn’t seem to be any way to ever get out again, until you suddenly discover that it has been brought into existence by thought and does not exist outside thought. Everything you fear is waiting with slavering jaws in Chapel Perilous, but if you are armed with the wand of intuition, the cup of sympathy, the sword of reason, and the pentacle of valor, you will find there (the legends say) the Medicine of Metals, the Elixir of Life, the Philosopher’s Stone, True Wisdom and Perfect Happiness.

    That’s what the legends always say, and the language of myth is poetically precise. For instance, if you go into that realm without the sword of reason, you will lose your mind, but at the same time, if you take only the sword of reason without the cup of sympathy, you will lose your heart. Even more remarkably, if you approach without the wand of intuition, you can stand at the door for decades never realizing you have arrived. You might think you are just waiting for a bus, or wandering from room to room looking for your cigarettes, watching a TV show, or reading a cryptic and ambiguous book. Chapel Perilous is tricky that way.”

    – Robert Anton Wilson (“Cosmic Trigger V1” page 152)

    #69209
    kultsommer
    Participant

    While the US politicians were selling the country and making China strong having them sell us cheep plastic trinkets, life for the most in the country was, still, way too good to notice or bother. Atop of that if good number in citizenry finds particular enjoyment in “interest” of how people in “other system” live, or at best, imagining how “that system” is creeping it’s way into the country, there you have it.

    Raw immediacy of early sixties pop art, still fresh as six decades ago. USA has quite a few high points in art, in general, to be proud of.

    #69214
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    4 Rules For Happy Living

    1. The world (Reality , Truth, the Universe, whatever ya wanna call it) is what it is and does what it does. You are in that world, right now, whether you like it or not., and there is no quarter asked or given.

    2. To last for very long, you better figure out what the fuck Rule #1 is all about. . . and pronto.

    3. Based on how things go with Rule #2 , you also better act upon what you now believe or strongly suspect to be real (or True, etc.). You have absolutely no choice. You SHALL act, and you always will.

    4. To evaluate how these rules are working out for ya, see Rule #1, and adjust your knowledge, actions, results and consequences accordingly.

    #69215
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @dermotmoconnor

    ref : ” a crossroad of mythic proportions (called Chapel Perilous in the trade). You come out the other side either stone paranoid or an agnostic; there is no third way. ”

    I’ve never taken much notice or given a hoot about the occult because, hey, if something is “covered up” then it is COVERED UP , right ? Nothing to see here until it get’s uncovered . . . at which point it ain’t occult any more, right?

    Nevertheless, and occultist nonsense aside, there is, of course, a third way , and therefore there are outcomes other than paranoia &/or unrequited agnosticism. The third way is to answer this question :

    “What , in my most intelligently and enlightened BEST interests , shall I do now ?

    #69217
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Berlin cca 1937. Hubby to his wife: “Listen honey, I got this great piece of land where we can move away from everything.” Or WWI trenches that we see in scratchy reels and wonder, since we were so detached from such a existence, how “poor souls” can possibly be in such a mess. Life, dreams and talent destroyed on mass scale.
    If one can answer why he/she thinks that “this time is different”, as not to find oneself in similar position (for further generations to marvel about), that pretty much is the key for surfacing at the other end alive and, as some are also expecting, well.

    #69220
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Good grief! Bad enough to find out the Salmon aren’t getting enough Vitamin B. Now the Chinese have let slip that they are coming over to America to enslave us and eat all our wheat and corn! It’s been a gloomy week.

    #69221
    analoguy
    Participant

    Before we go all nuclear why not nationalize Smithfield Foods?
    Keep the pork at home and see what the actual fallout is?

    #69222
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    I like to think about the unthinkable. Sooner or later, those nukes will be used. Humanity! While supplies last! Internal extinction event included!

    Nukes

    #69223
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Dear me; I must say that I find myself underwhelmed…

    #69225
    slatzman
    Participant

    sorry Raul, this one was mostly garbage. I find myself completely skipping over Dr. D’s lunacy in every thread

    #69234
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    Dr. D is right; “the times they are a changing”.

    It one is alive it is simply impossible not to believe in conspiracy theories. Take Bill Gates. He is buying up farmland in the USA. In a renter economy with 0% interest rate, land is about the only way to make more money if one has created a monopoly like Microsoft. Or is it to produce corn and soybeans to sell to Asia to feed the workers where all the Windows computer hardware is manufactured.

    I have the last episode of “The Looming Tower” on Hulu yet to watch. I already know what is going to happen next. The end result, 9/11, was blamed on hubris, keeping the House of Saud on the throne to support the petrodollar, and wasting trillions of dollars on purpose in the Global War on Terror (GWOT) to line the pockets of war profiteers. If you are peeling onions what is further underneath?

    In disaster B-movies, TV reporters set the stage for the action to follow. What is weird about reality is that corporate media cuts out anything that adversely effects their owner’s profits, so the truth isn’t the truth. There is no prelude. The US Postal System stops working and nobody reports it. What else isn’t working? There are hints that global manufacturing is shutting down due to failure of just-in-time logistics i.e. Toyota shut a US auto assembly line due to lack of computer chips.

    Today’s post below links to the dire resurgence of COVID-19 in Manaus Brazil that has prostrated the city. It is right on the Amazon River just around 300 miles just south of the equator with tropical humidity, lack of a breeze, interior location and cloudy most of time that cuts down on vitamin D made by the skin.

    The United States has the highest number of deaths in the world followed by Brazil and then Mexico. What is it with the Americas?

    The US federal government has once again failed spectacularly to protect its citizens. I agree with Chris Hedges. My take is that the great reset is unintentional, but inevitable, in a society governed solely to enrich the wealthy at the expense of everyone else.

    #69246
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Writer: Worst. Disaster. Porn. Ever.

    “I don’t personally feel this is our future.”

    Deagel is wrong and already has had to change forecast.

    What would address this problem is exactly the actions that would fix everything else.

    The reactions are peculiar though. So your thesis is that Generals and Defense ministers of major nuclear powers do NOT have plans to kill people? Wouldn’t that make them really bad at their job if they didn’t have the plans and materials to fight wars and save their populations? Wouldn’t you fire any general or Defense Minister who didn’t?

    What about the U.S. Generals, perhaps posted at Ft. Deitrick? Do they have materials to kill people and the written plans to use them? We don’t have any Pacific Trident submarines swimming around? Have we already attacked Asia, killing 500,000 North Koreans? Is there a very famous American general who planned and even attempted to invade and conquer China and was only narrowly restrained? Was there already a disease that appeared that seemed to primarily attack Asians, and did China identify and believe this was directed at them? Has there already been financial war against Asia, the Tigers of Thailand, which has already killed many million people, but economically?

    You have a chessboard, and sitting as a pawn on C2, and across the board, there’s an army! There are at least 3 pieces that can drop out of air and kill you from across the board! It can happen any minute!

    Yes, they have an army. And WE have an army. And Europe has an army. And Russia has an army. And we all have intel services. And any time any piece moves, ALL the pieces move in reaction. So what you have since Ogg hit Gog is a Balance of Power. If any of these people were all-powerful, why are we still here? If there are no good guys, what’s restraining them? Should I have to tell you this? We’ve been over-focusing on the U.S. — goodness how we’ve been over-focusing — and Europe, but that’s our lineage and our family, while ignoring this enormous force in Asia, indeed all of Asia. Which is their way, fighting quiet, not letting outsiders into their private matters.

    What I’m trying to do is point out how the chessboard is or was positioned. Right now there are reformers in the U.S., attempting to prevent perpetual wars to take over the world: the Nationalists. Right now the people are against the CCP and are attempting to reform the CCP and China’s very severe, mortal problems, perhaps even Xi himself. I can’t tell because everything’s hidden, and if true here, ten-fold more there.

    So IF this is true — which despite the response, I didn’t make up these speeches, and they’re pretty similar to the “We’ll coup who we want” talk and “we came, we saw, tehehehehe”,” “Son of a B-, we toppled Ukraine” speeches — IF this is true, or has been a large, long-standing positioning for China to solve their upcoming problems, what does the chessboard look like? Are Pompeo and Military Intel full of crap, or is Biden’s approach preferable?

    Even IF this tells you China needs food, they know they need all of it, and it’s life-and-death, what does that tell you here in Minnesota or Arizona? Or Southend-on-sea? Maybe….food prices go up? Maybe…financial systems go down? Maybe…we can’t import goods for ourselves when 2/3rds of them are made in China? Maybe…we unify with China, get on the same page of cooperation, or we both die?

    It’s all up to you. The knowledge will inform the choices you make. Since your situation is especially unique, I can’t tell you the response. But I can tell you the information.

    #69247

    My fear, it doth envelop me
    Til what I fear is all I see.

    “…for whom the instinct and impulse to survive surpasses all other instinctual drives.”
    Is that why millions are lining up to participate in a vaccine trial of a vaccine that has been shown in the past to kill its recipients; a vaccine that makes them so sick they are in bed for two days- to protect them from a disease that has a minuscule chance of killing them, let alone making them sick? A disease that has treatments that make the chance of death even more minuscule?

    Every communications revolution has changed civilization on a massive scale. The smart phone/internet communications revolution has made us feel each other’s presence so that the world seems tiny and crowded and dangerous.
    It’s odd that there have been no major “viruses” or interruptions that take out phones.

    Thanks, Ilargi. Thanks, Dr. D.

    #69248

    I should have written “test animal recipients”.

    #69250
    absolute galore
    Participant

    You can take these facts you have and fabricate any number of possible scenarios. What is the point though? Should we write letters to our congress members alerting them to this possibility? Isn’t there enough doom actually going on right now, today;’s reality, to discuss, or try to plan for, or look for solutions for (hah!)? There is nothing to do with conjecture of this magnitude other than try to dispel it for something more constructive. (I know, very simple, but very difficult.)

    #69261
    Noirette
    Participant

    No way that China will engage in Nuke-war-blasts unless forced as last-ditch, and even then, maybe not. China’s aim is to expand commercially, control ressources outside of China more firmly, augment exchanges and supervise it all.

    E.g. Agri-land + its workers in Africa which can be exploited. .. *First thing to watch*

    Essential is: Transport => stakes in ports, ship companies, rail, etc., as specialisation and using cheap labor for profit rests on shunting goods, the essential, needed kind, minerals for ex., over long distances.

    OBOR – one belt, one road – is built on the premise of ‘free trade.’ Which can funtion and move forward as long as ‘wars’ are minimalised and not disruptive, only erupting sometimes in very local skirmishes, folklore even.

    #69268
    a kullervo
    Participant

    Greetings,

    Humans come with a built-in safety device: death.

    The only thing that matters is to avoid prolonged pain before dying – it will be wise to be around someone who can kill you fast in such a case (it will also be advisable to man up yourself to the task if this happens to the one(s) you lay your trust with.)

    You can only see what you are able to see.

    Life’s just
    an educated guess,
    nothing more,
    nothing less.

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