Aug 122021
 


Julian #Assange attending today’s hearing by video-link from H.M.P. Belmarsh. It is astounding how much he seems to have aged in the space of six months. Puffed-up face and tired eyes. Hair and beard growing unruly. Very sad state of affairs. – Tareq Haddad

 

Microscopic Covid Vaccine-Induced Blood Clots (LSN)
Delta Variant Has Made Herd Immunity Impossible – AZ Developer (BI)
The Delta Variant Isn’t As Contagious As Chickenpox. But It’s Contagious (NPR)
La Pampa Ivermectin Monitored Intervention Program Results (IC)
India’s Ivermectin Blackout (Hope)
CDC Adjusts Florida Covid-19 Numbers After Health Department Call-Out (Fox)
SAGE Advisor Says Lockdowns Can No Longer Be Justified (SN)
Australia Can’t Escape Covid Lockdowns Even If 90% Is Vaccinated – Expert (DM)
Joe Biden Never Mentioned Covid ‘Quarantine Camps’… But The CDC Did (Bridge)
The Ultimate Power of The Word “NO” (Rossini)
Andrew Cuomo Is Resigning, But The Investigations Will Continue (USAT)
US Allowed To Challenge Key Psychiatric Evidence in Assange Case (RT)

 

 


 

 

Serious covid cases in Israel spike — 90% of serious cases are people over 50.

Fun fact: 95% of people over 50 are vaccinated

 

 

Oh, just great. And not even surprising anymore.

“And so, we understood in the end, the reason why the lungs fail is not because the virus is there. It is because micro blood clots are there..”

Microscopic Covid Vaccine-Induced Blood Clots (LSN)

Dr. Charles Hoffe has been practicing medicine for 28 years in a small, rural town in British Columbia, Canada, and recently gave a long interview. He has given about 900 doses of the Moderna experimental mRNA vaccine to his patients. So, contrary to some critics, he is no anti-vaccine doctor. The core problem he has seen are microscopic clots in his patients’ tiniest capillaries. He said, “Blood clots occurring at a capillary level. This has never before been seen. This is not a rare disease. This is an absolutely new phenomenon.” Most importantly, he has emphasized these micro-clots are too small to show up on CT scans, MRI, and other conventional tests, such as angiograms, and can only be detected using the D-dimer blood test, a standard test that indicates whether blood clots are being actively formed somewhere within a person’s vascular system.

Using the latter, he found that 62 percent of his patients injected with an mRNA shot were positive for clotting, not a small fraction that can be easily dismissed. He has explained that what is happening in bodies is that the spike proteins in the vaccine become “part of the cell wall of your vascular endothelium. This means that these cells which line your blood vessels, which are supposed to be smooth so that your blood flows smoothly, now have these little spikey bits sticking out. … when the platelet comes through the capillary, it suddenly hits all these COVID spikes, and it becomes absolutely inevitable that blood clots will form to block that vessel.” He made an important distinction: “The blood clots we hear about, which the media claim are very rare, are the big blood clots, which are the ones that cause strokes and show up on CT scans, MRI, etc.

“The clots I’m talking about are microscopic and too small to find on any scan. They can thus only be detected using the D-dimer test.” “The most alarming part of this is that there are some parts of the body like the brain, spinal cord, heart and lungs which cannot re-generate. When those tissues are damaged by blood clots, they are permanently damaged.” This is his pessimistic, scientific view: “blood vessels in their lungs are now blocked up. In turn, this causes the heart to need to work harder to try to keep up against a much greater resistance trying to get the blood through your lungs. This is called pulmonary artery hypertension – high blood pressure in the lungs because the blood simply cannot get through effectively. “People with this condition usually die of heart failure within a few short years.”

[..] The eminent Dr. Peter McCullough noted, “So, this is a very different type of blood clotting that we would see with major blood clots in the arteries and veins, for instance, blood clots involved in stroke and heart attack, blood clots involved in major blood vessels in the legs. This was a different type of clotting, and in fact, the Italians courageously did some autopsies and found micro blood clots in the lungs.” “And so, we understood in the end, the reason why the lungs fail is not because the virus is there. It is because micro blood clots are there. … When people can’t breathe, the problem is micro blood clotting in the lungs. … The spicule on the ball of the virus itself which damages blood vessels that causes blood clotting.”

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Some of this stuff is plain weird. This guy admits his vaccine fails to do what it promised, but says it’s only because there’s a new variant. And herd immunity can only be reached with vaccines. Which is contradicted even by the WHO’s new distorted definition that now says: “Herd immunity is a form of indirect protection from infectious disease that can occur with some diseases when a sufficient percentage of a population has become immune to an infection, whether through vaccination or previous infections..”

Delta Variant Has Made Herd Immunity Impossible – AZ Developer (BI)

The Delta variant has changed the equation for achieving herd immunity, the developer of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine has said. Speaking at a UK parliamentary meeting on Tuesday, Sir Andrew Pollard, a professor of pediatric infection and immunity at the University of Oxford, said that achieving herd immunity is “not a possibility” now that the Delta variant is circulating. “We know very clearly with coronavirus that this current variant, the Delta variant, will still infect people who have been vaccinated, and that does mean that anyone who’s still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus,” Pollard said. He said it was unlikely that herd immunity will ever be reached, saying the next variant of the novel coronavirus will be “perhaps even better at transmitting in vaccinated populations.”


Some experts had hoped that herd immunity could be reached with COVID-19, as was the case with measles, which is also highly infectious. Many countries have achieved herd immunity with measles by vaccinating 95% of the population against it, such as the US, where endemic transmission ended in 2000. That is because once a person is vaccinated against measles, they cannot transmit the virus. With COVID-19, vaccines still fulfill their primary role: protecting against severe disease. According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, vaccinated people who catch the Delta variant are 25 times less likely to have a severe case or die. The overwhelming majority who do catch it will have mild or no symptoms. But growing evidence suggests that, with the Delta variant, fully vaccinated people can still transmit the virus.

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The CDC lied again. Who notices anymore?

The Delta Variant Isn’t As Contagious As Chickenpox. But It’s Contagious (NPR)

In a leaked report, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention made a surprising claim about the delta variant of the coronavirus: It “is as transmissible as: – Chicken Pox,” the agency wrote in a slideshow presentation leaked to The Washington Post on July 26. Chickenpox is one of the most contagious viruses known. Each individual can spread the virus to as many as “90% of the people close to that person,” the CDC reports. Is the delta variant that contagious as well? The short answer is no, says evolutionary biologist and biostatistician Tom Wenseleers at the University of Leuven in Belgium. “Yeah, I didn’t find the CDC’s statement entirely accurate,” says Wenseleers, who was one of the first scientists to formally calculate the transmission advantage of the alpha and delta variants over the original versions of SARS-CoV-2.

Nonetheless, delta is still highly transmissible, he adds. It’s one of the most contagious respiratory viruses that we know of, he says. Here’s why. When scientists measure a virus’s transmissibility, they often use what’s known as R0, or “R nought. ” It’s the number of people a sick person will infect when the entire population is vulnerable to the virus. “So it’s the virus’s potential of spreading, given ideal conditions for the virus, when no one has any immunity,” says computational biologist Karthik Gangavarapu at the Scripps Research Institute. For example, the flu has an R0 of about two. Each person infected with flu passes the virus on to two people on average. Some people will infect more than two people, and some will infect fewer. But over time, the average will be about two.

Chickenpox, on the other hand, is way more contagious, Gangavarapu says. Chickenpox has an R0 of about nine or 10. So each person with chickenpox infects about 10 other people on average. Outbreaks are explosive. For SARS-CoV-2, the R0 has actually risen over the course of the pandemic as the virus evolved. When the coronavirus first emerged in 2019, SARS-CoV-2 was slightly more contagious than flu, Gangavarapu says. “The initial COVID-19 strain had an R0 between two and three.” Then about a year later, the virus began to mutate quickly. The alpha variant emerged, likely in the U.K., and was more transmissible than the original strain. A few months later, the delta variant emerged, most likely in India. It was even more transmissible than alpha.

“For the delta variant, the R0 is now calculated at between six and seven,” Wenseleers says. So it’s two- to three-times as contagious as the original version of SARS-CoV-2 (R0 = 2 to 3) but less contagious than the chickenpox (R0 = 9 to 10).

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Google translate from Argentina. Bit confusing, 4 different percentages in a few paragraphs. And I don’t get why they specifically focus on mortality (or even how), given that 99.9% of people survive.

La Pampa Ivermectin Monitored Intervention Program Results (IC)

“The primary objective in the community of the two populations was to evaluate mortality related to COVID-19. In this context, we studied 3,269 patients older than 18 years of the Ivermectin Group, and in the same period we compared it with a group of 18,149 patients who did not participate in the program. In the results of the mortality analysis in the Ivermectin Group, we found that it was 27.4% lower compared to the group of patients who did not use the drug. And when we evaluate the population over 40 years of age, the cut-off point that we established, the decrease was 33.4%. It means that, if confirmed with a randomized clinical study, 1 out of every 3 deaths would be avoided, it is a very strong figure, ”said Kohan.

The minister added that, in the Program, a dose of 0.6 milligrams per kilo of weight was used, in a period of 5 days. “The previous work carried out gave the clue that this was the correct dose in the first 5 days of transit of the disease with mild symptoms,” he added. Kohan. With the statistical data in hand, he considered it valuable that the study carried out in La Pampa was made known to the scientific community through the fastest possible channels. “We are going to publish it, we have discussed it with the working group, and we believe it is important that it be made available. And we are going to try to pave the way for rapid dissemination, so we first thought of making a preprint (in academic publication it is an original manuscript of an author before peer review) in a specialized journal.

We want others to discuss this issue and, as I said in June, we are not fans of Ivermectin but we found valuable elements in favor of the population. The statistics are there, and we also find more favorable statistics even in patients with comorbidities ”he added. Even under the encouragement of positive statistics, Kohan considered it important to be cautious with the dissemination of them. “Those who intervened and signed the consent are specifically detailed in specific files, those of the Control Group are not. For this reason, when you add the risk factors in people over 40 years of age, the mortality reduction is 44%, it is amazing, but you have to take it with great caution, “he said. Finally, he gave an account of the evaluations of intensive care hospitalizations and/or deaths “where we verified a 38% reduction in the patients of the Ivermectin Group” he concluded.

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Obesity may play a major role here. US is 15 times worse than even Tamil Nadu.

India’s Ivermectin Blackout (Hope)

The graphs and data from the Johns Hopkins University CSSE database do not lie. On the contrary, they provide a compelling trail of truth that no one can dispute, not even the NIH, CDC, FDA, and WHO. Just as Galileo proved with his telescope that the earth was NOT the center of the Universe in 1616; today, the data from India shows that Ivermectin is effective, much more so than the vaccines. It not only prevents death, but it also prevents COVID infections, and it also is effective against the Delta Variant. In 1616, you could not make up the telescopic images of Jupiter and its orbiting moons, nor could you falsify the crescent-shaped images of Venus and Mercury. These proved that the earth was NOT the center of the Universe – a truth the Catholic Church could not allow.

Likewise, the massive drop in cases and deaths in India to almost nothing after the addition of Ivermectin proved the drug’s effectiveness. This is a truth that the NIH, CDC, and FDA cannot allow because it would endanger the vaccine policy. Never mind that Ivermectin would save more lives with much less risk, much less cost, and it would end the pandemic quickly. Let us look at the burgundy-colored graph of Uttar Pradesh. First, allow me to thank Juan Chamie, a highly-respected Cambridge-based data analyst, who created this graph from the JHU CSSE data. Uttar Pradesh is a state in India that contains 241 million people. The United States’ population is 331 million people. Therefore, Uttar Pradesh can be compared to the United States, with 2/3 of our population size.

This data shows how Ivermectin knocked their COVID-19 cases and deaths – which we know were Delta Variant – down to almost zero within weeks. A population comparable to the US went from about 35,000 cases and 350 deaths per day to nearly ZERO within weeks of adding Ivermectin to their protocol. By comparison, the United States is the lower graph. On August 5, here in the good ol’ USA, blessed with the glorious vaccines, we have 127,108 new cases per day and 574 new deaths. Let us look at the August 5 numbers from Uttar Pradesh with 2/3 of our population. Uttar Pradesh, using Ivermectin, had a total of 26 new cases and exactly THREE deaths. The US without Ivermectin has precisely 4889 times as many daily cases and 191 times as many deaths as Uttar Pradesh with Ivermectin.

Uttar Pradesh on Ivermectin: Population 240 Million [4.9% fully vaccinated]
COVID Daily Cases: 26
COVID Daily Deaths: 3

The United States off Ivermectin: Population 331 Million [50.5% fully vaccinated]
COVID Daily Cases: 127,108
COVID Daily Deaths: 574

Let us look at other Ivermectin using areas of India with numbers from August 5, 2021, compiled by the JHU CSSE:
Delhi on Ivermectin: Population 31 Million [15% fully vaccinated]
COVID Daily Cases: 61
COVID Daily Deaths: 2

Uttarakhand on Ivermectin: Population 11.4 Million [15% fully vaccinated]
COVID Daily Cases: 24
COVID Daily Deaths: 0

Now let us look at an area of India that rejected Ivermectin. Tamil Nadu announced they would reject Ivermectin and instead follow the dubious USA-style guidance of using Remdesivir. Knowing this, you might expect their numbers to be closer to the US, with more cases and more deaths. You would be correct. Tamil Nadu went on to lead India in COVID-19 cases.
Tamil Nadu off Ivermectin: Population 78.8 Million [6.9% fully vaccinated]
COVID Daily Cases: 1,997
COVID Daily Deaths: 33

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By close to 50%. How often does the CDC make such “mistakes”?

CDC Adjusts Florida Covid-19 Numbers After Health Department Call-Out (Fox)

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Tuesday updated its COVID-19 tracker for Florida over the past few days after the state’s department of health appealed publically for an update. The CDC told Fox News in an email on Tuesday that it was working with the state’s health department to correct the information. The state took to Twitter on Monday to ask the CDC to update its COVID-19 case tracker because it incorrectly combined “MULTIPLE days into one.” The Sunday total was the state’s worst ever, according to the CDC data. Multiple media organizations picked up on the number and the department corrected the stories online with some bite.


“Wrong again. The number of cases @CDCgov released for Florida today is incorrect,” it responded to a report in the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. “They combined MULTIPLE days into one. We anticipate CDC will correct the record.” The CDC initially reported 28,317 new cases on Sunday but adjusted that number to 19,584 by Tuesday. The health department said there were 15,319 cases on Sunday.

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They’re going to do them anyway.

SAGE Advisor Says Lockdowns Can No Longer Be Justified (SN)

A top SAGE adviser to the UK government says that COVID lockdowns can no longer be justified and that measures to control the virus should instead be aimed at protecting the most vulnerable. Professor Andrew Hayward, a University College London epidemiologist, said that the days of disruptive restrictions imposed on everyone should end in favor of a more targeted approach. “I think as we generally move into an endemic rather than pandemic situation the potential harm that a virus can cause at a population level is much less,” Hayward told BBC Radio 4. “So you can’t really justify such broad population-wide control measures and we tend to target the control measures more to those who are most vulnerable,” he added.

“And so I think, not only in testing but in all sorts of forms of control, as we move into a situation where we’re coming to live with this virus forever, then we target the measures to the most vulnerable rather than having the more disruptive measures,” said the professor. Hayward’s view that we need to learn to live with the virus was echoed by signatories to the Great Barrington Declaration, in which 12,000 scientists asserted that the strategy should be centered on “focused protection,” not endless lockdowns. However, the UK government is still pursuing the idea of vaccine passports for some venues from September onwards while eliminating the option of negative COVID tests, despite the fact that fully vaccinated people can still catch and spread the virus.

The domestic passports have proven highly controversial in France, where police were seen earlier this week checking the medical papers of people sitting outside at cafes. As we previously highlighted, some lockdown advocates appear to be upset that the restrictions might not make a return, with a Guardian journalist writing about how he is “going to miss being locked down.”

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Build a wall around it. Shut down the airlines and the ports. Don’t let anyone leave ever again.

Australia Can’t Escape Covid Lockdowns Even If 90% Is Vaccinated – Expert (DM)

A top US disease expert who was among the first to sound the alarm when the Covid pandemic first appeared in Wuhan has painted a bleak picture for millions of Australians hoping to be released from stay-at-home orders. Harvard-trained epidemiologist Dr Eric Feigl-Ding warned that even with 90 per cent of Australia’s population vaccinated – 10 per cent higher than the federal government’s reopening target of 80 per cent – it still won’t be enough to fend off the relentless cycles of lockdowns. Dr Feigl-Ding said in order to live with the highly infectious Indian Delta variant, life will need to remain in a perpetual state of restrictions including a ban on indoor dining and a move to premium face masks.

But despite the grim outlook, he’s still urging everyone to get the potentially life-saving jab as its proven to reduce hospitalisation rates by about 90 per cent. ‘Even for highly vaccinated countries, relying on vaccines alone is not a panacea to stop Delta,’ he told A Current Affair. ‘What that means is just relying on that single vaccine approach is very, very narrow minded. ‘We must do other layers in addition to waiting around for vaccines.’ He says life returning to normal is still a long way off and suggests a public health strategy ‘in between’ being locked down or fully opened is needed. This would include bans on indoor dining and cloth-made masks, improved ventilation standards and a nationwide vaccine passport system.

‘No one wants lockdowns… but if you don’t have these in place I guarantee you, you will be headed towards a lockdown because the cases will be surging so quickly and the hospital beds will be filling up,’ Dr Feigl-Ding said. ‘Without these measures you’re headed for disaster.’

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The CDC is just one long horror story. Bunch of career bureaucrats in no way up to an actual challenge.

Just like Fauci, who spent 40 years in his job in silence, building ties with Big Pharma. Of course he’s going to screw up after all that.

Joe Biden Never Mentioned Covid ‘Quarantine Camps’… But The CDC Did (Bridge)

As a number of politicians push for ‘vaccine passports’ amid fears that a new brand of medical apartheid is coming, a re-surfaced CDC publication advocating internment camps for the ‘high-risk’ has some people fearing the worst. Last year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released a paper that floated the totally not suspicious idea of relocating “high-risk” individuals into green zone “camps.” While the proposal didn’t attract much attention at the time, as draconian anti-Covid measures are beginning to ramp up, and basic human rights and liberties are coming under attack, the document has attracted newfound attention. And not without reason, it seems.

The very first line of the document discusses the implementation of a “shielding approach in humanitarian settings… focused on camps, displaced populations and low-resource settings.” Essentially, and this will be important later on, ‘humanitarian settings’ is just another way of saying ‘camps’. Many people are quick to associate the idea of camps with the containment of refugees, for example, or illegal aliens who have breached the border. Yet the only time the word ‘refugee’ is mentioned in the paper is in reference to a camp in Kenya. At the same time, ‘camp’ and ‘camps’ are referred to about 20 times. There is another ambiguous thing about this document, and that involves its description of “high-risk” individuals and the “general population.”

The paper reads: “In most humanitarian settings [i.e. camps], older population groups make up a small percentage of the total population. For this reason, the shielding approach suggests physically separating high-risk individuals from the general population to prioritize the use of the limited available resources and avoid implementing long-term containment measures among the general population.” In other words, the CDC is saying that older people being held in camps (humanitarian settings), because they are in the ‘high-risk’ category, should be separated from the ‘general population’ in these facilities so as to reduce the ‘containment measures’. OK, fine. But the document never explains who makes up the general population inside the camps, and why these ‘low-risk’ individuals are being held in these humanitarian ‘green zones’ in the first place.

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Via Ron Paul.

The Ultimate Power of The Word “NO” (Rossini)

Fear is the primary tool of authoritarians. It mentally disarms the population. We know about the desire to physically disarm the population, by trying to take away guns. Well, fear is the tactic for mental disarmament. When one is afraid, one makes bad decisions. One doesn’t think things through. One tends to act impulsively in an attempt remove immediate dissatisfaction. One tends not to question, but blindly obey. In a state of fear, one may submit and agree that 2+2=5; only to afterwards be filled with regret at doing such a stupid thing. Fear is meant to break your individual will. Your will to say the word “NO” stands in the way of every authoritarian scheme. The authoritarian needs you to say “YES,” even if you don’t really believe it. The authoritarian will pull all the levers available, and move all the pieces on the board to corner you, all with the goal of getting you to say “YES.”

Mass propaganda is designed to get you to say “YES”. Everywhere you look, you see the same exact message. “Say YES”…”Say YES”…”Say YES”… Slapping the mask on your face provided two wins for authoritarians: First, you said “YES” to allowing authoritarians to dress you when you left your house. Second, it conditioned you to realize that all others had their wills broken too. Everyone’s face was now dressed up, and hidden from view. What a powerful visual to break down your will. Saying “YES” to unprecedented “Lockdowns” and isolation has led to massive mental and physical illnesses that will reverberate through the ages, and will be talked about for the rest of our lives, much in the same way that the World Wars and Great Depression are talked about.

Now, the levers are being pulled, and pieces are being maneuvered for the grand slam: Saying “YES” to having foreign chemicals injected into your body, even if you don’t want them and don’t need them. Medical treatments, especially those that will be with you and inside of your body for the rest of your life, should never (EVER) be mandatory. Most people would agree with this in a heartbeat. Yet, with a constant diet of fear, the goal is to get you to say “YES.” Saying “YES” to this not only breaks your will, but surrenders your sovereignty over the one (and only) body that you will ever have. Allow this, even a single time, and saying “NO” to future mandated injections will be neutralized. It’s too late. Whatever injections are decreed, your body will always be at the mercy of other human beings.

One word from you puts an end to this: “NO.” One word keeps your sacred will intact: “NO.” One word can possibly and literally save your life: “NO!”

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They won’t go after him for killing old people. Too many other Democrats did the same.

Andrew Cuomo Is Resigning, But The Investigations Will Continue (USAT)

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo is giving up the powerful job he’s dedicated most of his life to keeping within his family, but his resignation won’t end a bevy of pending investigations into him and his administration. No fewer than five district attorneys have made preliminary inquiries into Cuomo’s alleged sexual harassment detailed in the scathing, 165-page report last week from Attorney General Letitia James’ office that ultimately led to the governor’s announcement Tuesday that he will resign in two weeks. That includes Albany County District Attorney David Soares, who is in the midst of a criminal investigation into claims by a Cuomo executive assistant who says the governor groped her breast at the Executive Mansion last year.

There’s also a pending investigation by federal prosecutors in Brooklyn who are looking into the Cuomo administration’s handling of COVID-19 in nursing homes and its withholding of certain death data at the height of the pandemic last year. And that’s not all. James is still looking into whether Cuomo illegally used state resources to pen his book on the COVID-19 crisis, for which he is due to be paid $5.1 million. And the Assembly’s impeachment inquiry continues on, though its immediate future is no longer clear. The investigations and litigation could enmesh Cuomo for months or years after his scheduled departure from public office in two weeks. “The inquiry into criminal conduct in our jurisdiction remains open and pending,” Soares spokesperson Cecilia Walsh said Tuesday, just after Cuomo announced his pending resignation.

[..] Separately, federal prosecutors in the Eastern District of New York have subpoenaed material related to Cuomo’s recent memoir as part of an investigation of the state’s handling of COVID-19 deaths in nursing homes on Cuomo’s watch, The Wall Street Journal reported in June. [..] James, meanwhile, told reporters last week that her investigation into Cuomo’s book deal remains underway. “The investigation with respect to the book and whether or not public resources were utilized is ongoing and it’s separate and apart from this investigation,” she said Aug. 3. The Assembly Judiciary Committee, which has been investigating various Cuomo-related issues to determine whether to impeach the governor, is scheduled to meet Monday.

Lawmakers had been moving toward impeaching the governor, but Cuomo’s resignation could change their plans. The Assembly could still pursue an impeachment that could prevent Cuomo from running for state office again. Such an endeavor, however, would cost millions of dollars in taxpayer money, which Cuomo himself highlighted during his resignation speech. “It will consume government,” Cuomo said of his potential impeachment. “It will cost taxpayers millions of dollars. It will brutalize people.”

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The presence of judges makes you think this is about law. It is about politics. No matter that the key witness, without whom there would be no case, says he made it all up. No matter that Julian helping Manning crack something was a blatant lie. Those things have become part of the case, accepted as facts.

Yesterday was only about whether his two kids will prevent him from suiciding. As if this should ever have been allowed to become about that.

There have been people walking around with signs for a decade, and writing righteous texts on social media. When will they realize this is no use? As a society, we will never process the death through torture of our bravest and smartest. And we don’t deserve to. We deserve to be forced to explain this to our grandchildren.

US Allowed To Challenge Key Psychiatric Evidence in Assange Case (RT)

The High Court in London has allowed the US to challenge a psychiatric evaluation of Julian Assange, which was key in an earlier court ruling refusing Washington’s request to extradite him for trial. Wednesday’s appeal proceeding is the latest development in the continuing effort by the US to extradite Assange to stand trial on American soil for alleged computer-related crimes. A British judge refused the request in January on humanitarian grounds, ruling that there was a high risk of Assange taking his own life if she agreed to his extradition. Testimonies by psychiatrist Michael Kopelman about the poor state of the Australian’s mental health were crucial in the case. The US was allowed to challenge the ruling of the District Court on three points and wanted to pursue two further arguments.

One of their extra lines of attack, which was granted by Lord Justice Tim Holroyde, was to seek the dismissal of Kopelman’s testimonies, due to the fact that he initially concealed Assange’s relationship with Stella Moris and the fact that they had two children together. Clair Dobbin, who represents the US side, argued that the professor had misled the court and that his opinion about Assange’s state of mind should have been dismissed by Judge Vanessa Baraitser. The name of Assange’s partner was not public at the time of Kopelman’s initial testimony, but it became known before the ruling was passed. The expert witness for the defense did report Assange’s fatherhood, and said when pressured by the US side during the extradition hearings that he didn’t disclose Moris’ identity out of respect for her privacy.

Judge Baraitser decided when rejecting the extradition request that although Kopelman did mislead the court, he didn’t fail in his role as an impartial witness. Edward Fitzgerald, who represents Assange, argued against the challenge, saying concern for family safety was natural in his situation. He recalled that a Spanish private security firm hired to spy on Assange allegedly snatched a diaper from his baby son to test his DNA and identify the child’s parents. The baby boy was regularly brought by an associate of Assange to visit him at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, where he was staying for seven years to avoid extradition proceedings. The firm is suspected to have worked on behalf of the US government, and its alleged activities were cited extensively before Judge Baraitser.

Matt Kennard

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    Julian #Assange attending today’s hearing by video-link from H.M.P. Belmarsh. It is astounding how much he seems to have aged in the space of six mont
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 12 2021]

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    Veracious Poet
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    The CDC lied again. Who notices anymore?

    By close to 50%. How often does the CDC make such “mistakes”?

    The CDC is just one long horror story. Bunch of career bureaucrats in no way up to an actual challenge.

    They won’t go after him them for killing old people. Too many other Democrats psychopaths did the same.

    Once your reputation is gone, you can boldly carry on…

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    a kullervo
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    The saddest side effect of growing up is to lose the sense of awe.
    (Pity the child who was born without it and the one who lost it prematurely.)

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    Mister Roboto
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    With regard to 2,000 nurses quitting in Mississippi over the past eight months: Not wanting to get the serum forced upon them may have played role. But when you see something this dramatic happen, especially in the middle of a healthcare crisis and when a relatively well-paying job such as nursing (nurses almost certainly are not paid what they’re worth, but the job is well-paid compared to standard working-class jobs) should be a good thing to have, the causes are likely to be a complex matter.

    Ayn Rand once called the USSR the most incompetent country in the world, but ever since Soviet communism went bye-bye, the USA has been bound and determined to snag that particular honor for itself. And based on what I’ve heard about how healthcare in this country is actually done, in few other places would you see this institutional incompetence more than in the area of healthcare. Having to deal with the dog’s breakfast that is the healthcare system while personally witnessing and dealing all the death and suffering that severe Covid illness causes really has to nothing short of heartbreaking for the front-line personnel who are our nurses. I think that this would be especially true for those nurses who went into the profession out of a genuine desire to help people and contribute something worthwhile to society.

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    Mister Roboto
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    Sorry, “dealing with all the death and suffering”

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    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    @deflationista: When 75% of what you bring to the discussion is, “Wow, you guys are really crazy”, it should be apparent to you that your issue is your own insecurity over the apparent fact that 40-45% of the population doesn’t want to be coerced into receiving an experimental serum whose affects cannot be undone. When your plan isn’t going to work, making a spectacle of yourself on the Internet isn’t going to suddenly make it work. HTH

    #83422
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    The weird weather patterns that have been asserting themselves lately have been one of the few things we talk about around here that aren’t about the coronavirus. Over the past six days, Wisconsin has been drenched by a six-day stretch of severe thunderstorms accompanied by pronounced heat and humidity (though still temperate compared to what other locales have experienced this summer). All the rain will probably contribute quite a bit towards compensating for the relatively dry conditions this year (but once again not as bad as other locales have been experiencing), but this spate of rainstorms has brought problems of its own that we’re having to deal with.

    #83423
    Dr. D
    Participant

    IVM should work on ADE, although you would have less time, and therefore be more prophylactically-focused. Again, because of the mechanism, neither CV nor the variants can dodge it. How can we suppose this? It’s been out for many decades and none of the former tropical viruses have avoided it. But that’s just concluded/hypothecated on the known moving parts of the machine.

    Deflationista’s argument against Lindell is that he’s a poopy-pants who CNN doesn’t like. Very convincing. You wanted us to give you space to present and argue evidence. Ok, where is it? What’s are his claims and what is specifically wrong with them?

    My non-evidence evidence is: Do government employees usually risk prison to refuse to answer subpoenas, claim they don’t know how elections are run, they say, as the head of the matter, claim to have no passwords, when they believe Joe was clearly the most popular President in world history in the cleanest election ever run? I don’t need to drill down in the details when that’s been popping up nationwide.

    Or would they say, “Sure, idiots and sore losers, we won fair and square so here’s everything you want, I’ll meet you in any room with any evidence you like, and show you just how wrong you are. Read it and weep, suckers”?

    Not needing any evidence, at all, ever, I can easily distinguish between the two groups. One wants procedure, double-checking, and transparency. One wants a lock-up, do/believe what you’re told, anybody who dissents is attacked personally, legally, monetarily, and sometimes physically. So which side is the good side, looking for truth?

    If I/We are wrong, is even the slightest harm done? No. If I/We are right, is good promoted and not bad? Yes. So why would there be the slightest resistance to a legal, State-authorized audit?

    Easy-peasy. So easy a Caveman can do it. So easy Joe NASCAR can understand. So easy to shut up all the confirmation bias cult, so easy to bring America together, and yet they will go to jail rather than 1) follow any law whatsoever and 2) do it.

    Doesn’t that seem weird?

    So you’re on the side that refuses all law, all subpoenas, all normal process, and shuts down all debate, inquiry, information, and free speech of your fellow men. …The Good side, ‘natch. Are you really sure, ‘cause those don’t read like “good side” characteristics to me.

    Give all the docs, count the audit, let Lindell make a fool of himself, who cares? That it’s the #Opposite tells me you don’t believe it either.

    Why do 2,000 nurse quit? Conditions, period. Health Care workers are regularly assaulted, often daily. And not by the patients but by the visiting FAMILY. Hospital Administrators, safe at home, useless as rocks, making as much money, defend the FAMILY assaults against the Nurses and staff. You cannot call security on the family. It’s bad for your Yelp reviews. For decades, but as the general population gets worse and loses their minds, the issue gets larger. They then cut staff, take bonuses in the most expensive, least-provided health care in the solar system.

    So not only can I go into a hospital as the only place I can REFUSE vaccines and all care, I can (sexually) assault every nurse and tech, all day long, for months, while doing it.

    It’s so bad, some states have proposed a law making it legal for nurses to prosecute for assault. …Er, hey, wait: isn’t ASSAULT by definition a crime, an essential Human Right unable to be suspended anytime, ever? “SHUT UP AND DO AS YOU’RE TOLD. If we say you have to be assaulted daily, then by God lie down and think if England, but don’t whine to me about it.”

    Yes, they suspended basic human rights for nurses and health workers years ago, and they are still pretending that they are legally suspended now. Although nurses are well-paid, they are also completely, unavoidably responsible for every screw up by doctors, techs, or anyone else, and will be hung out to dry in an instant. Okay, fine, but what happens when Admin sets down a staffing shortage with instead of 3 pt/nurse, 10 patients/nurse? Ooops, sorry: MY STAFFING IS STILL YOUR FAULT. I got a Maserati to wax during work-at-home, peasants, and the money from chronically short-staffing isn’t going to spend itself.

    So…let me review: attacked every week if not every day. Check. For no reason, as it’s the family not the patient with dementia or Narcan. Check. Totally, easily avoidable. Check. It’s actually breaking all human rights, since ever. Check. Plenty, gobs, buckets, waterfalls of money available to fix it. Check. No warning of any kind, no matter how long or well-documented changes anything. Check. Everything will be blamed on you if anything goes wrong, even if superhuman effort is made daily, ruining the physical and mental health of the nurse. Check. You can go to jail for doing your job. Check.

    What’s not to like??? Sign me up today! …So this is why Missouri has $28,000 SIGNING BONUSES, and no nurse will show up. Because they never fixed the problem: THEM. The administrators and legal review can’t solve it, because it’s THEM who create it and would have to arrest and fire THEMSELVES. For U.N. Human Rights violations. And worse, give up their and Insurance Company paychecks. Never happen. The sun will burn out of the sky, the moon will fall, they entire system will burn down and fall over, leaving a tea towel and oregano from your lawn first. I mean, clearly. It’s been 30 years. Everybody’s dying, and long before Covid. If anything could turn it by now, it would have. It’s just monopolies at work, doing what they do. Monopolies that can ONLY exist and be defended by force of government. Congress wants it, so: no more nurses. You die. The End. Highly trained, caring people, still young enough are at Taco Bell instead. …I mean, you COULD reinstall basic human rights and basic, common-sense legal fault and solve this in 6 months, but suit yourself. Blame Covid for there being no beds that YOU closed, on purpose, for DECADES, and drove out every nurse or worker you could find.

    So…we arrest the greatest Mass Murderer in the history of New York yet? Surpassing General Howe? They guy who closed all hospital beds and Psych facilities in the decades leading up to now? No? Wake me when there’s rule of law. Rule of law anywhere in medicine.

    #83424
    Germ
    Participant

    Vitamin D levels in children with COVID-19: a report from Turkey

    “…this is one of the primary studies that analysed the relationship between vitamin D level and COVID-19 infection in a paediatric age group; however, our study had a larger sample size. Our study revealed that vitamin D deficiency is correlated to COVID-19 severity.”

    https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/vitamin-d-levels-in-children-with-covid19-a-report-from-turkey/627E5F7B744279CDBF0BD0CC12938C2C

    #83425
    Germ
    Participant

    Association of Myocarditis With BNT162b2 Messenger RNA COVID-19 Vaccine in a Case Series of Children

    “COVID-19 vaccine-associated myocarditis may have a benign short-term course in children; however, the long-term risks remain unknown.”

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2783052

    #83427

    For tomorrow’s Debt Rattle:

    Young Adult Mortality In Israel During The Covid-19 Crisis

    ..the surge in mortality coincided with the rollout of the Israeli vaccination campaign for the 20 sto 49-year-olds, which reached more than 75% of individuals in this age group. This unexpected rise in excess mortality among young adults was also found in two other countries, the United Kingdom and Hungary, which have in common with Israel a massive vaccination of their populations. Thus, our observations should prompt to pause the campaign..

    vv

    #83428
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Dr. D: Well, WRT the assault issue, that one probably varies from state to state. Here in Wisconsin, there is a sign posted in Aurora Healthcare facilities that any physical assaults on any staff will not be tolerated, and I hope to Spirit that they mean it and enforce it! Wisconsin has a way of being an island of semi-sanity in a sea of madness, which is one of the reasons I remain here. Well, except for legalizing medicinal cannabis, that is. :-/

    #83429
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    In addition to refusing the experimental vaccines because there have been no mid- to long-term studies of side effects, there is probably a percentage of the population refusing vaccination because:

    1) Forcing a medical procedures on people so they can earn money and participate in society is unconstitutional (setting aside the ethical considerations of this particularly authoritarian policy)

    2) Growing evidence the intent is to segregate the population based on medical status

    3) Even greater loss of privacy as personal health status must now be provided to the *door monitor* at public venues

    4) Blatant disregard by the CDC, et al, for the health of our children and young people by forcing an experimental procedure on them so they can participate in life

    5) Manipulative propaganda being used to instill fear and guilt to make the population give up their rights

    6) Increasing evidence the safe and effective vaccines carried a great deal of risk and haven’t contributed to the control of viral spread

    7) Massive distrust of pharma, with plenty of historical evidence as to why that is

    I could go on, of course, but even if I had been vaccinated, I would be one of the people burning my vaccine card in solidarity with the unvaccinated. What is going on now is dangerous. Period. It needs to stop. It’s our children’s and grandchildren’s future and if we don’t care about that, just what is it we DO care about?

    #83430
    jo6pac
    Participant

    Thanks for the 2 studies on the virus info.

    #83431
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Although, considering the pillage of the entire planet in our wanton lust for even more useless stuff … I’ve already answered my last question in my previous post. 🙁

    #83432
    deflationista
    Participant

    A thread that some of you might appreciate. Probably not.

    “What the crank is giving people is the *illusion* of not trusting an authority—unlike all those sheep who trust the *mainstream* authorities. A bit like the media elites who win large followings by telling you not to trust media elites.”

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1424946657242796034.html

    #83433
    Germ
    Participant

    Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 Delta Variant Among Vaccinated Healthcare Workers, Vietnam

    “Delta variant infections are associated with ….. low levels of vaccine-induced neutralizing antibodies…”

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733

    This shit shot don’t work!

    #83434
    Germ
    Participant

    Durability of SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell responses at 12-months post-infection

    “Conclusions. Our data show that SARS-CoV-2 infection induces polyfunctional memory T cells detectable at 12-months post-infection, with higher frequency noted in those who originally experienced severe disease.”

    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.11.455984v1

    Go, Go, Go T-cells !!!

    #83435
    chooch
    Participant

    The corona has been circulating for quite some time and millions upon millions of people have been injected. I am sure by now that a PCR test (Ct=45) would come back positive for almost anybody independent of injection status.

    Let’s say you are a middle aged. You can either be NOT mRNA injected, healthy and asymptomatic or mRNA injected (six months ago) and asymptomatic.

    Which would you choose to enter (without a mask). The meeting will be and hour long and the air conditioning is not working.

    A) Small conference room with 10 recently mRNA injected and masked coworkers seated six feet apart.

    B) Small conference room with 10 NON mRNA injected (not sick) coworkers.

    I read somewhere that the spikes have an affinity for salic acid and plasma salic acid increases with age. Just thinking out load but it seems to be a little guano crazy to overwhelm your immune system with this mRNA technology. Probably won’t go down as one human kind’s greatest achievements.

    I think it is really a tool for tyranny. No, that’s just stupid talk.

    Thumbs up
    Elbows back
    Feet apart
    Knees together
    Bottoms up
    Tongue out

    A tooty ta, a tooty ta, a tooty ta, ta

    They want us to be like the girl on the left with her hands covering her face. Choose freedom, not the kind Macron peddling in France.

    https://fb.watch/7jBdLOnEK1/

    #83438

    Don’t laugh!

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    #83439
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    Am starting to think a new vocabulary is needed to reduce the fogs generated when greater educated meet the warm moist emotions of the lesser educated, like a cold air mass meeting tropical air. First on the agenda is the problem of distinguishing between accredited medical doctors (Dr.s) some of whom actually practice the arts of ethical medicine. They should be acknowledged as accredited medical practitioners (AMP-Dr.) while those prescribing covid-19 jabs be known henceforth as just Dr.
    The trouble is all too many medically incompetents are dispensing medical advise and should be held liable for all damages caused (assuming a viable legal /judicial system is in place). None without proper accreditation should ever be allowed to prescribe medical treatment; no judge; no priest; no politician; no administrator; no governor; not even a dog catcher. Any doing so should feel the heat of forceful revolution that clears the decks of such dregs. The streets of Wuhan were NOT filled with bodies. Achieving a virtual population reduction IS a method to reduce viral spread without actually reducing population. Unknowns will eventually become knowns and change the operational environment of contending with a pandemic and must be altered when a pandemic becomes an endemic at the time this factor changes (covid-19 pandemic was over summer 2020 and became endemic from autumn 2020). Authority must be held to account for their actions. Viral particles easily passing through a mask are effected by Brownian motion more than anything, the mask do filter droplets which may carry significant viral particle loads capable of infection.

    From this point, the verbal miasma of the covid-19 swamp muck might be cleared.
    >Some meat for TAE Summary<

    #83441
    zerosum
    Participant

    Selective reading/hearing – a compelling trail of truth

    the data from India shows that Ivermectin is effective, much more so than the vaccines.

    https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout/article_e3db8f46-f942-11eb-9eea-77d5e2519364.html
    ” the massive drop in cases and deaths in India to almost nothing after the addition of Ivermectin proved the drug’s effectiveness. This is a truth that the NIH, CDC, and FDA cannot allow because it would endanger the vaccine policy.”
    ———-

    Different Tales of Sex – Andrew Cuomo, Hunter Biden, Julian Assange

    The inevitable intrusion of reality will be vicious.

    #83442
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @deflationista

    Clinical trials require a control group of participants as a benchmark against which to measure whether the experiment reveals change in comparison to doing nothing at all.

    Thank you for your service.

    #83443
    kolya
    Participant

    Here’s a much more interesting interview with professor sarah gilbert who runs the AZ lab.

    https://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2021/07/17/news/interview_prof_sarah_gilbert_astrazeneca_oxford_uk_vaccines_covid_coronavirus_pfizer_jenner_institute-310621042/

    I’ve read the book, but don’t have the Barbie doll. There was a line in the book that jumped out and said something like “if our vaccine is a bit dangerous it’s most likely because of the spike protein and if that’s the case then every other vaccine has the same problem”.

    #83444
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Obviously Assange won’t get justice. He will probably be exonerated after his death, and become a neutered symbol for something-something-liberty-courage. Maybe they stuff his corpse like they did Hachi:

    Hachiko the Loyal Dog

    %^&

    deflationista sucks at changing TAE minds and, increasingly, at holding their attention.

    #83445
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    madam: “deflationista sucks at changing TAE minds and, increasingly, at holding their attention.

    I’ve tried, I truly have, because of, ya know, confirmation bias and all. But when I follow a link and people doubting the accepted narrative are called “cranks” right up front, it’s impossible to keep reading. I wonder how deflationista would feel if everyone here responded to her comments with, “well, crank, my thoughts are …”

    I’ll take the conference room full of unvaccinated people with no masks on for $1000, Alex … 😉 I’ve already been around the recently vaccinated. Have no interest in repeating that fiasco.

    #83446
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    I know of two people who work deep in the belly of two beasts: Boeing and the CDC.

    The Boeing person was part of the committee that safety-reviewed Boing’s disastrous 7-something-7. Said that the data given to the committee proved to be incomplete, and the problem is therefore not that person’s fault… which is technically true. This person still works for Boeing but has been seeking work elsewhere… an outfit in Hood River making “killer robots”, and something with Microsoft. Ah, choices.

    The other person works for CDC and adamantly defends its covid policies despite ample access to discrediting information.

    People’s IDENTITIES are often indistinguishable from their career. After all, they spent 15-19 years earning the education credentials to become a certified ‘important person’, maybe even an Important Person. Then they crawl up the corporate ladder. They’re deeply invested in their perch.

    Most people confuse themselves with their identitiy. Losing their identity would feel like death: they have little if any oidea of who/what they are, and their job is everything to their identity.

    One can brew a lot of industrial-strength denial from that dynamic.

    #83447
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Raul, thanks for the laugh. 🙂 That truly reflects just how idiotic this has gotten.

    #83448
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Raul – I tried not to laugh but the highlighted script made me chuckle – I have to wonder what the condition would be that the doctors considered worse than death.

    I have a feeling it may be the sensation of being wrong and not owning it.

    #83449
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Also this one is for Oroboros and others – I had to fact check myself regarding the ultimate viability of GMO seed and it appears I was wrong (never pleasant) – they will produce true to type (although some modern corn has pig genes which makes vegetarianism more limiting than before).
    Check this out though – https://doowans.com/the-silent-gmo-sterilization-of-the-human-race/
    Who needs vaccines for pop control – it’s been in the corn for 20 years.

    the epicyte gene is crazy

    Why Do Some GM Crops Contain the Epicyte Gene?

    #83450
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @madamski

    ref : ” Most people confuse themselves with their identitiy. ”

    Hold it right there, Buster. Freeze !! Take one more step you and you run the almost certain risk of becoming enlightened.

    #83451
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    A bit of history:

    Past vaccine disasters show why rushing a coronavirus vaccine now would be ‘colossally stupid’
    Sept 1 2020

    Quite the time capsule. A lot has happened in the past two years.

    P.S. I found the above googling kolya’s paraphrase quote: “if our vaccine is a bit dangerous it’s most likely because of the spike protein and if that’s the case then every other vaccine has the same problem”.

    #83452
    madamski cafone
    Participant
    #83453
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “Hold it right there, Buster. Freeze !! Take one more step you and you run the almost certain risk of becoming enlightened.”

    You again. How many times I gotta tell you to get your damn lawn offa my kids!?

    #83454
    Dr. D
    Participant

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1424946657242796034.html

    Synopsis: You’re an idiot. Trust the experts. All your evidence means nothing. Do what you’re told.

    Okaaaaayyy. Um, again, WHAT facts do we have and WHAT do we specifically think is wrong? Not given. The experts disagree widely, if we “Trust experts” which ones? Not given. Are the “experts” taking a deep breath and a heavy sigh and reading the supposed data and then discussing/educating the ignorant masses? Definitely not. Not given.

    And this would be considered acceptable for medicine? In medicine if you ask you 900 times and they don’t get it and ask again, you are required to explain again. That’s it. Sorry, thanks for playing.

    They refuse to read the data, address the data, and explain the data. That to me says you’re not an expert. In my field I can explain things from the simpest level or not at all, up to my own level if they can grasp it. One thing I don’t do is say “Shut up and eat it or you’ll get nothing, you stupid idiot-face.” …Even when we want to.

    So again, day three. WHAT facts? WHAT info? WHAT is wrong with the facts given by the VP of Pfizer and the duly hired auditors of the State of Arizona? ‘Cause, buddy: they’re the experts. You’re supposed to blindly believe THEM, just as you argue in your own article. Why don’t you believe the hired, licensed doctors and the hired, licensed auditors? Seems strange.

    #83455
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    A personal emotional dynamic: I find it increasingly easy to not care about folks who insist that a lying gov/corp complex, well known at be a lying gov/corp complex, is more honest than me.

    “What do you know?’

    ‘I know you’re quoting a brain dead idiot (Biden).’

    Not that this conversation happened. But it sums up the beginning of personal social anomie in my soul.

    I don’t even have a lifeboat yet, and maybe never will. We don’t have money to spare around here. Nonetheless, I’m developing a stern, even cruel attitude: Why the fuck should I let you in my lifewboat? Get your hands off that gunwale or I’ll break it.

    I see this dynamic becoming a crucial aspect of all this. Families broken apart. BUsiness partnerships shattered. The Parable of the Grasshopper and the Ants writ large.

    #83456

    The mask conveniently hides the visible symptoms of illness- the mouth-breathing, the runny nose.

    From personal experience: when I heard that glyphosate was used to “crisp” wheat and oats (and, boy, is it ever noticeable in the fields), I restricted my intake of baked goods and lost 20 pounds. Bread is now a treat (if I can find “organic”). Glyphosate interferes with gut bacteria (the shikimate pathway). Glyphosate is a poison and produces worse-than-useless “food”. It also contributes to sterilization of the soil. It began its life as an antibiotic, btw.

    They haven’t squeezed the oldsters out of their tiny fortunes yet- so of course they have to institutionalize them and make it easier to kill them en masse. Those fully-owned houses won’t end up in a rental portfolio, otherwise.

    One sure way to tell the good guys from the bad guys is that the bad guys use torture.

    #83457
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    God ( Prime Cause, Yahwew, Allah, Awareness, the Great Spirit . . . the name of your choice) got bored and yearned for companionship. It must be lonely at the top, ya know ?

    It started off simply enough. A push here, a pull there, something to look at, and then before you know it particles, atoms, spacetime and eventually life and intelligence. These things (and us) are all God’s sock puppets , with which he talks to himself, and the patterns they make produce a myriad of unpredicted consequence that not even omniscience could have imagined in advance. Very entertaining. And unlikely to stop any time soon, regardless of current events.

    So is the above “phylosophic” rambling off topic ?

    Not really.

    Nevertheless, I apologize, and will refrain as hard as I can in future posts. It was Madamski’s post that set me off, so it’s his fault anyway.

    #83458
    zerosum
    Participant

    Truth
    Look ….
    NO MONEY ….. NO VACCINE …. THE ELITIST WILL GET THE LAST TEST AND THE LAST VACCINE

    #83459
    Noirette
    Participant

    Herd immunity is not an appropriate and/or useful concept. Sars-Cov-2 is a corona virus, respiratory virus in humans (as far as we know..), and it won’t be stamped out by ‘vaxs.’ They don’t work at all, are a mega-scale commercial scam. Imho, whether ADE is having an effect, can’t be decided for now following the numbers, all of which are very dodgy, imho. It appears that now the MSM is touting that herd immunity can’t be attained because! ‘Variants’, not vaxs, anyway, and so it goes.

    Waves is ridiculous as well (concept borrowed from the ‘Spanish’ flu), the virus circulates and is affected by multiple conditions that aren’t understood or properly analysed, documented: temperature, sunlight on people, pollution, movement of ppl, personal characteristics, public health measures, treatment of patients, which either kills, is of no use, or helps.. (not to mention the peculiar – manipulated – fudged statistics that impede serious analysis at every turn!) The Swiss MSM yesterday was touting fear of a 4th wave, while CH has only had 2, the journos can’t even count to 5… 😉

    Risk-benefit analysis is a version of cost-benefit analysis, from the quasi-religious doctrinaire and prescriptive field of Economics. It shouldn’t be applied to health, doctoring, medecines, prophylaxis, which at their base are, or rest on, the personal integrity of those doing doctoring, via traditional obligations such as the Hippocratic oath, long-held principles, conventions, and for vaxs, the Nuremberg Code. All that has been pretty much swept away, bowing down to Mammon, or overlords who command.

    Flattening the Curve is also a spurious concept. The idea was to delay ppl getting ill so that the hospitals would not be submerged by a huge input of patients. So just as many ppl become ill, have severe consequences, and die, but WE prefer to spread that out, forward, on the time sheet? Taylorism and the factory line meets health care! (In fact was on its face proved to be a lie in many places as hospitals had plenty of open beds, even in critical care, see for ex. the UK.) The mandate of health-carers, the State, and the Army (where I live, to set up field hospitals in 2-3 days) is to care for the sick, no matter how, how many, etc. and do so as best as can be done.

    Immunityon its own is now a weird buzzword similar to “regeneration” in the Cosmetics Industry. Say.

    Kicking in open doors here I know, but the overall picture speaks to present Gvmts (OECD..) having been infiltrated and partly taken over by turbo-charged profit-making (some call it liberalism), via corruption, creating jockeying at the top Mafia-style, and putting out there via the MSM maid-servants whatever BS concepts sound vaguely scientific and professional to keep the public quiet, they believe. Not new of course, but more noticeable now.

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