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People With 2 COVID-19 Shots Fully Vaccinated Without Booster: Surgeon General (ET)
Top Doctor: Mass Vaccination Program One Of The Most Deadly Mistakes In History (LSN)
Now Is The Time To Use Ivermectin: Chairman Of Tokyo Met Medical Ass’n
Supreme Court Knocks Down ‘Covid Passport’ In Andalucia (EW)
Spain Court Orders End To Barcelona Virus Curfew (B’s)
Greek Gov’t Not Backing Down On Health Worker Vaccinations (K.)
US Promises Not To Charge Americans To Fly Out Of Afghanistan (RT)
Biden State Dept Halted A Trump-Era ‘Crisis Response’ Plan 2 Months Ago (NP)
Leaked State Department Memo Warned Of Afghanistan Collapse (ZH)
The Worst Presidential Dereliction in Memory (Noah Rothman)
The Ides of August (Sarah Chayes)
Assabiya Wins Every Time (Lee Smith)

 

 

 

 

In the EU, as of 14.8.21, 826,000 have had 2.07 million adverse reactions to the jab, of which 21,776 died.

 

 

It’s official: anything goes.

People With 2 COVID-19 Shots Fully Vaccinated Without Booster: Surgeon General (ET)

Americans who have received two COVID-19 vaccine doses are considered fully vaccinated, Surgeon General Vivek Murthy said Wednesday. “I think what’s very important for people to know is that if you’ve gotten both shots of your mRNA vaccine, you are fully vaccinated right now; you have full—you have a high degree of protection against the worst outcomes of COVID-19,” Murthy told reporters during a virtual briefing. The definition of fully vaccinated could prove key in the coming months. More and more jurisdictions are requiring proof of vaccination to enter businesses. At some point, people could be required to show proof of having received three doses, especially if health officials signaled their support.

Murthy suggested that could come later, pending authorization from the FDAvand a recommendation from the CDC’s vaccine advisory panel, known as ACIP. “Our recommendation down the line, pending the advice and the review of the FDA and ACIP … is that we believe that that third dose will ultimately be needed to provide the fullest and continual extent of protection that we think people need from the virus,” Murthy said. Experts are keeping a close watch on whether vaccine mandates will transition into requiring booster.

“Haven’t heard this debated yet… but in case the Covid events of the past month aren’t messy enough, wait for this one: When—and how—do vaccine mandates transition into booster mandates?” Bob Wachter, chair of the University of California San Francisco’s Department of Medicine, wrote on social media this week. Asked later on CNBC if CEOs should consider mandating boosters, Murthy said, “In my mind this doesn’t change what workplaces are doing.” “Right now, if you’re a business that’s thinking about putting in requirements for vaccines, if you’re a university that’s considering that, nothing in today’s announcement should change what you’re doing,” he added.

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“..about 88 percent of hospitalizations and deaths can be avoided with early treatment.”

But there still is no early treatment.

Mass Vaccination Program One Of The Most Deadly Mistakes In History (LSN)

The forced mass vaccination of Americans will be regarded as one of the most deadly and costly medical mistakes in history, renowned pioneer in the early treatment of COVID-19, Texas cardiologist and internist Dr. Peter McCullough, has said. Citing recent data from U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and from Israel and Britain, where COVID cases are multiplying among the vaccinated, McCullough, who is editor-in-chief of two medical journals and author of over 600 peer-reviewed studies, including 46 dedicated to COVID-19, said he is “deeply worried” about the future of America. “Americans are going to bear the brunt of what invariably is going to be a failed mass vaccination program that will go down as one of the most deadly, one of the most injurious and costly in human history,” McCullough said in a recent podcast.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced in April that it has stopped tracking COVID cases among the vaccinated that do not result in hospitalizations or deaths. The agency is now assuming that new cases are among the unvaccinated unless otherwise advised, which skews numbers to paint the unvaccinated as spreaders of disease. “This intentional misinformation and propaganda scheme has been used to drive an incredible fury of vaccine mandates” for government agencies, veterans administrations, and hundreds of schools and colleges, even though here have been no outbreaks in these places, McCullough said. Israel was the first country to mass vaccinate its population under an agreement with Pfizer to exchange vaccine supply for public health data in an experiment on the people “to evaluate whether herd immunity protection is observed during the Product vaccination program rollout.”

Eighty percent of adults are fully vaccinated there, yet COVID cases and serious hospitalizations have risen 20-fold since early July. The media has highlighted that most serious new cases have been among the unvaccinated, while neglecting to report that the majority (more than 80 percent) of new cases reported by the Israeli Health Ministry are among vaccinated individuals. In response, Israel introduced a third “booster shot” of Pfizer’s vaccine which has been administered to more than one million people as of August 16. In the United Kingdom, more than three-quarters of the adult population (76 percent) have received two doses of vaccine and almost 90 percent of adults have received at least one dose. Yet, the number of COVID patients hospitalized has soared sevenfold since early June this year.

The most recent U.K. report on “variants of concern” revealed that 54 percent of COVID deaths are among the fully vaccinated. A further 12 percent of deaths are among the partially vaccinated who have received one dose. That data, McCullough said, “is basically showing that the vaccines are failing.” Vaccinated individuals can acquire and transmit the pandemic coronavirus and become and die of COVID-19. “Completely vaccinated individuals are passing it to one another,” McCullough said. Nonetheless, citing the new, circulating Delta variant, the Biden administration is expected to follow Israel’s example and introduce a third booster shot for all nursing home residents and healthcare workers for September.

The vaccines were never tested for the Delta variant, and their protection has lasted only months. “It’s clear we can’t vaccinate our way out of this,” McCullough said. COVID-19, no matter what the variant, is easily treatable at home with simple, available drugs, according to McCullough, who has stated that “about 88 percent of hospitalizations and deaths can be avoided” with early treatment.

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Odd Google translate, but lots of info between the lines. IVM for Covid is legal, but not available.

Now Is The Time To Use Ivermectin: Chairman Of Tokyo Met Medical Ass’n

Why is Japan not trying to use ivermectin, which has few reports of side effects and has been reported to be effective in clinical trials in other countries? On August 5, we had an urgent interview with Mr. Ozaki, chairman of the Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association, who had been proposing effective uses of ivermectin from early on.

[..] Ivermectin generic drugs are also manufactured in large quantities in China and India. If Merck doesn’t come out, there should be a way to import and supply it.

“That’s right. If the” Special Measures Bill for Designation and Use of Specified Drugs for the Treatment of New Influenza, etc. “(Japanese EUA * Maintenance Bill), which was submitted to the House of Representatives by Representative Nakajima, who is also a doctor, is passed, generic products But I think the government isn’t working at all at this point. ”

“The other problem is that ivermectin has already been used in many countries around the world, and its dosage, dosage, safety and efficacy have been confirmed, but it has not yet been done in clinical trials in Japan. For this reason, ivermectin is not covered by the drug side effect relief system. This makes it difficult for doctors to use. However, even in such anxiety and disadvantageous situations, doctors who are convinced of the effects of ivermectin. Some of us are prescribing ivermectin at our own risk. I hope that the Japanese version of the EUA maintenance law will be enacted as soon as possible. ”

EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) A system of the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) that permits the use of unapproved drugs in an emergency and expands the indications for approved drugs. The FDA is <1> a life-threatening disease <2> a certain degree of effectiveness is recognized in the treatment of diseases, etc. <3> The benefits of using it outweigh the potential risks of the product <4> Other diseases It is approved for use if it is determined that there is no suitable alternative to diagnose, prevent, or treat.

Since you admitted that it is not applicable, Japan is classified as an “Ivermectin user country” in the world, but it is a system that can not be used in reality.

“That’s right. In short, the government has not built a system that can supply ivermectin, so it is not a promotion system. If the Japanese version of EUA is prepared quickly and it becomes a system that can be used by doctors in the field, As Minister of Health, Labor and Welfare Tamura replied in the Diet, it can actually be administered to patients who are waiting at home or undergoing medical treatment, but with the current system, virtually nothing can be done. However, if we remain cautious in the event of such an emergency, we can only understand that we are sacrificing the safety of the people. “

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Nice, but not on principal.

Supreme Court Knocks Down ‘Covid Passport’ In Andalucia (EW)

Supreme Court knocks down ‘covid passport’ to enter bars, restaurants and nightclubs in Andalucia The Supreme Court knocks down ‘covid passport’ to enter bars, restaurants and nightclubs in Andalucia. The Andalucian Government had hoped to use a COVID passport, but the Supreme Court has prevented this. The Andalucian Government had hoped to use a COVID passport control entry to hotels, nightlife venues and nightclubs across Andalucia. The Supreme Court has now rejected this request. The court believes that the proposed measure “does not pass the proportionality test” and that it shows a “justification deficit”. Therefore, it has decided to stand by the decision previously taken by the Superior Court of Justice of Andalucia.

This basically means that anyone in Andalucia will not have to show a vaccination certificate or a negative PCR test which was taken in the last 72 hours in order to enter nightclubs, restaurants and bars. The government of Moreno Bonilla had requested these measures, but Supreme Court have decided to overturn the request. The decision was made on two main arguments. The first is that the measure is not sufficiently justified. For the measure to be justified the government in Andalucia would need to prove “that the so-called fifth wave originates precisely in nightlife venues.” The second argument is one of being proportionate. The measure was intended to apply “over a large territory and in very different situations”.

This meant that the measure would be used across the whole of Andalucia, and the local coronavirus situation within each territory would not be considered. The measure failed the proportionality test. If applied the measure would have hit the hospitality sector without it ever having been proven that the main source of coronavirus infections came from this sector. As reported 20 minutes, “Finally, the court argues that it is not possible to restrict the fundamental rights of citizens with a preventive measure such as the ‘covid passport’: ‘It is not a measure that is punctually indispensable to safeguard public health (…), but rather a preventive measure when it happens that, for the restriction of fundamental rights, mere considerations of prudence or precaution are not sufficient’, the Supreme Court argues.”

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Same in Catalunya.

Spain Court Orders End To Barcelona Virus Curfew (B’s)

A Spanish court on Thursday lifted a coronavirus curfew imposed on most of Catalonia, including the capital Barcelona, leaving it in place in just a fraction of the northeastern region. Catalonia’s government in mid-July imposed a nightly curfew between 1:00 am and 6:00 am in most municipalities to fight a surge in virus cases, and the region’s top court then gave the green light to extend it three times. But on Friday, faced with a request by the regional government to keep the curfew in place in 148 municipalities, the High Court of Justice of Catalonia said the measure was “not justified” in 129 of them, because infection rates there had improved. “In these circumstances, the measures are not so much justified on health grounds, but for reasons of security or public order,” the court said in its ruling.

The Catalan government said in a statement it was “analysing” the court’s ruling, but added it “regrets that once again judges are acting as epidemiologists”. The curfew is intended to discourage social gatherings on beaches and in parks after nightclubs close at 12.30 am, which was suspected of fuelling a spike in cases of the highly-contagious Delta variant, especially among unvaccinated young people. Images of large groups of youths gathering on Barcelona’s beaches or in popular nightlife districts have become common since Spain lifted a nationwide night-time curfew in early May. The court did however keep in place for one more week a ban on public or private gatherings of more than 10 people throughout Catalonia.

Like the rest of Spain, the region which is popular with tourists has seen its number of infections drop in recent weeks. When Catalonia imposed the curfew in mid-July it had an infection rate double Spain’s national average, with more than 1,000 cases per 100,000 inhabitants over 14 days. But on Wednesday that figure had fallen to 328, lower than the national average of 378, according to the health ministry’s latest figures.

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Game of chicken alright. People keep telling me they think vacciation rate here is 10% or so, gov’t says over 60%.

So they threaten them with poverty and exclusion. And many Greeks say: Bring it! We’ve seen hard times before!

Greek Gov’t Not Backing Down On Health Worker Vaccinations (K.)

Deputy Health Minister Vassilis Kontozamanis insisted on Thursday there is no room for postponements, either official or informal, of the suspension of health workers who refuse to get vaccinated. “All of society is grateful and we appreciate the work of our health workers and the results so far in managing the pandemic. And we are optimistic that the small percentage of unvaccinated health workers will get their shots by the deadline,” said Kontazamanis. His announcement came 12 days before the expiration of the deadline given to hospital staff and workers at health facilities around the country to get inoculated with at least one dose of the vaccine. “For those who are not vaccinated, I want to be clear and unequivocal that the law will be implemented. The Greek Parliament has legislated… and the obligation of the state to implement the law is self-evident,” he said.

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ha ha ha

US Promises Not To Charge Americans To Fly Out Of Afghanistan (RT)

Americans looking to leave Afghanistan first have to promise to repay the government for the cost of their evacuations to the tune of “$2,000 or more per person,” but the State Department says it will waive the fee. It is estimated anywhere from 5,000 to 10,000 American citizens, permanent residents and their family members may still be in Afghanistan, and presumably hoping to leave the country – under Taliban control since Sunday – via Hamid Karzai International Airport (HKIA) in Kabul before the end of August. Before they brave Taliban checkpoints and hope to get a seat on a US troop transport or chartered civilian jet, however, they must promise to repay the US government for the privilege of their rescue.

One journalist did some digging and found the website of the Overseas Security Advisory Council (OSAC), a State Department partnership with the “corporate, non-profit, academic, and faith-based groups.” OSAC’s security alert for Afghanistan, posted on August 14 – the very day the Taliban took over Kabul from the disintegrating US-backed government – clearly states that “repatriation flights are not free.” Passengers “will be required to sign a promissory loan agreement & may not be eligible to renew their US passports til the loan is repaid,” the advisory says, adding that the cost “may be $2,000 or more per person.”


The promissory note is apparently demanded in the Repatriation Assistance Request form, which is required for every single person hoping to get onto an evacuation flight, according to instructions sent out by the US embassy in Kabul – now operating out of HKIA. Anyone hoping to leave will need to fill out the form and wait for the embassy email, before braving Taliban checkpoints to reach the airport, at which point they will have to hope a seat will be found for them on a departing plane on a first-come, first-served basis. Hand luggage only, no pets allowed.

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They left behind over 2,000 U.S.-made armored vehicles, between 30 and 40 aircraft, and enough weaponry to start an army from scratch.

France started preparing an evacuation in April, and executing it in June. Everybody knew.

But rumors have it that some 15,000 Americans are still there. Once they start dying or being taken hostage, Biden’s problems go up by an order of magnitude.

Biden State Dept Halted A Trump-Era ‘Crisis Response’ Plan 2 Months Ago (NP)

Joe Biden’s State Department moved to cancel a critical State Department program aimed at providing swift and safe evacuations of Americans out of crisis zones just months prior to the fall of Kabul, The National Pulse can exclusively reveal. The “Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau” – which was designed to handle medical, diplomatic, and logistical support concerning Americans overseas was paused by Antony Blinken’s State Department earlier this year. Notification was officially signed just months before the Taliban’s takeover of Afghanistan. “SENSITIVE BUT UNCLASSIFIED,” an official State Department document from the Biden State Department begins, before outlining the following move the quash the Trump-era funding for the new bureau.

The document is from the desk of Deputy Secretary of State Brian P. McKeon, confirmed in March by the United States Senate. The document is dated June 11, 2021, though The National Pulse understands the decision to pause the program may have come as early as February, both undermining the original Trump-era date for the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan, and certainly giving the Taliban time to threaten American assets and lives on the run up to Joe Biden’s September 11th date of withdrawal. The subject line reads: “(SBU) Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau,” and the body of the document recommends: “That you direct the discontinuation of the establishment, and termination of, the Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau (CCR), and direct a further review of certain associated Department requirements and capabilities.”

It goes on: “That you direct the discontinuation of the establishment, and termination of, CCR, consistent with the applicable legal requirements, necessary stakeholder engagement, and any applicable changes to the Foreign Affairs Manual and other requirements.” The document reveals the recommendations were approved on June 11th 2021. Speaking exclusively to The National Pulse, former President Donald J. Trump blasted Biden’s irresponsible move: “My Administration prioritized keeping Americans safe, Biden leaves them behind. Canceling this successful Trump Administration program before the withdrawal that would have helped tens of thousands Americans reach home is beyond disgraceful. Our withdrawal was conditions-based and perfect, it would have been flawlessly executed and nobody would have even known we left. The Biden execution and withdrawal is perhaps the greatest embarrassment to our Country in History, both as a military and humanitarian operation.”

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It’s not that they didn’t know.

Leaked State Department Memo Warned Of Afghanistan Collapse (ZH)

Around two dozen State Department officials at the US embassy in Kabul warned of a potential collapse following the Aug. 31 troop withdrawal deadline, according to the Wall Street Journal, citing a ‘person familiar with the cable.’ Using a special ‘dissent channel’ within the State Department, the cable – sent to Secretary of State Antony Blinken and another top State Department official – warned of ‘rapid territorial gains by the Taliban and the subsequent collapse of Afghan security forces,’ and offered suggestions on how to speed up evacuation and mitigate the obvious crisis slated to ensue, two people told the WSJ. In total, 23 US Embassy staffers – all Americans, signed the July 13 cable, which was given a rush status ‘given the circumstances on the ground in Kabul.’ In addition to Blinken, it was sent to the Director of Policy Planning, Salman Ahmad.

Blinken received the cable and reviewed it shortly afterwards according to the report. The cable, dated July 13, also called for the State Department to use tougher language in describing the atrocities being committed by the Taliban, one of the people said. The classified cable represents the clearest evidence yet that the administration had been warned by its own officials on the ground that the Taliban’s advance was imminent and Afghanistan’s military may be unable to stop it. -WSJ According to the report, some 18,000 Afghans and their families who had applied for special US Immigrant Visas remained in Kabul in areas under Taliban control, while efforts to reach the airport have become increasingly difficult.

US intelligence officials have sparred with the White House over who was warning of what, and when. And as the Journal notes, the existence of this confidential State Department memo warning of impending doom adds a crucial piece to our knowledge of how this all went down. Why Blinken and Biden didn’t take immediate action despite receiving a ‘dissent channel’ emergency communication from their staff on the ground in Kabul is unknown, however Blinken is apparently so bad that John McCain called him “dangerous to America” in a 2014 Senate speech, adding that he was “one of the worst selections of a very bad lot” as Obama’s nominee for Secretary of State.

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“We are dependent on the beneficence of a theocratic militia that has demonstrated no capacity for mercy. And the U.S. government has no intention of remedying this condition.”

The Worst Presidential Dereliction in Memory (Noah Rothman)

Gen. Mark Milley is right. “There’ll be plenty of time to do AARs,” or after-action reports, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a Wednesday press conference alongside Defense Sec. Lloyd Austin. There will be time to learn why neither he nor “anyone else” anticipated the collapse of the Afghan “army and this government in 11 days.” We will one day have the luxury of looking back on this crisis to determine what led to the evacuation of the military before civilians and the surrender of versatile Afghan-based control points. Right now, a crisis of almost unprecedented proportions is upon us. And to judge from what Austin and Milley are telling us, they have neither the means nor the will to resolve it.

As the Washington Post reported on Tuesday night, an estimated 10,000 to 15,000 U.S. citizens are still in Afghanistan, and there was “no plan to evacuate the Americans who are outside Kabul.” And there still isn’t. In a most dispiriting display of resignation, Austin and Milley explained that the hellish circumstances to which they’d consigned American citizens and their allies in Afghanistan were all but irresolvable. While thousands of Americans and allied Afghans have been evacuated since Tuesday, we are at the mercy of the Taliban who have surrounded Kabul’s single-runway airport—the only means by which allied nations can evacuate their people. But you have to make it to the airport on your own and by whatever means possible. If you are not presently in U.S. custody in the airport—even inside Kabul—there is little the American military can do for you.

“We don’t have the capability to go out and collect large numbers of people,” Sec. Austin confessed. Indeed, the U.S. military cannot even mount the kind of rescue operations in which British and French special forces are already engaged. “I don’t have the capability to go out and extend operations currently into Kabul,” Austin added. What’s more, there are no plans to address that deficiency. “We know that we got to have the right mix of capabilities on the ground,” Austin insisted. “We don’t want to put excessive materials on the ground that are not relevant to what we’re doing.” According to the Pentagon chief, our powerlessness in the face of a disorganized militia is by design.

We have placed the fate of untold thousands of Americans and our Afghan allies in the hands of the Taliban. They dictate the terms and tempo of our operations. We depend on the Taliban to allow foreign nationals and credentialed Afghans into Hamid Karzai International Airport. According to what remains of the American diplomatic presence in Kabul, “the United States government cannot ensure safe passage” into the airport. We are dependent on the beneficence of a theocratic militia that has demonstrated no capacity for mercy. And the U.S. government has no intention of remedying this condition.

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Some good background articles.

The Ides of August (Sarah Chayes)

I covered the fall of the Taliban for NPR, making my way into their former capital, Kandahar, in December 2001, a few days after the collapse of their regime. Descending the last great hill into the desert city, I saw a dusty ghost town. Pickup trucks with rocket-launchers strapped to the struts patrolled the streets. People pulled on my militia friends’ sleeves, telling them where to find a Taliban weapons cache, or a last hold-out. But most remained indoors. It was Ramadan. A few days later, at the holiday ending the month-long fast, the pent-up joy erupted. Kites took to the air. Horsemen on gorgeous, caparisoned chargers tore across a dusty common in sprint after sprint, with a festive audience cheering them on. This was Kandahar, the Taliban heartland. There was no panicked rush for the airport.

I reported for a month or so, then passed off to Steve Inskeep, now Morning Edition host. Within another couple of months, I was back, not as a reporter this time, but to try actually to do something. I stayed for a decade. I ran two non-profits in Kandahar, living in an ordinary house and speaking Pashtu, and eventually went to work for two commanders of the international troops, and then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. (You can read about that time, and its lessons, in my first two books, The Punishment of Virtue and Thieves of State.) From that standpoint — speaking as an American, as an adoptive Kandahari, and as a former senior U.S. government official — here are the key factors I see in today’s climax of a two-decade long fiasco:

Afghan government corruption, and the U.S. role enabling and reinforcing it. The last speaker of the Afghan parliament, Rahman Rahmani, I recently learned, is a multimillionaire, thanks to monopoly contracts to provide fuel and security to U.S. forces at their main base, Bagram. Is this the type of government people are likely to risk their lives to defend? Two decades ago, young people in Kandahar were telling me how the proxy militias American forces had armed and provided with U.S. fatigues were shaking them down at checkpoints. By 2007, delegations of elders would visit me — the only American whose door was open and who spoke Pashtu so there would be no intermediaries to distort or report their words.

Over candied almonds and glasses of green tea, they would get to some version of this: “The Taliban hit us on this cheek, and the government hits us on that cheek.” The old man serving as the group’s spokesman would physically smack himself in the face. I and too many other people to count spent years of our lives trying to convince U.S. decision-makers that Afghans could not be expected to take risks on behalf of a government that was as hostile to their interests as the Taliban were. Note: it took me a while, and plenty of my own mistakes, to come to that realization. But I did.

For two decades, American leadership on the ground and in Washington proved unable to take in this simple message. I finally stopped trying to get it across when, in 2011, an interagency process reached the decision that the U.S. would not address corruption in Afghanistan. It was now explicit policy to ignore one of the two factors that would determine the fate of all our efforts. That’s when I knew today was inevitable. Americans like to think of ourselves as having valiantly tried to bring democracy to Afghanistan. Afghans, so the narrative goes, just weren’t ready for it, or didn’t care enough about democracy to bother defending it. Or we’ll repeat the cliche that Afghans have always rejected foreign intervention; we’re just the latest in a long line. I was there. Afghans did not reject us. They looked to us as exemplars of democracy and the rule of law. They thought that’s what we stood for.

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‘Assabiya’ is the engine of history. With it, the most primitive tribe can overturn the mightiest of civilizations; without it, a people will wither in the desert.”

Assabiya Wins Every Time (Lee Smith)

[..] military strategists, political pundits, foreign correspondents, and even historians will spend the next several decades wondering how a gang of rough Pashtun tribesmen galvanized by a fundamentalist version of Islam managed to defeat the most advanced military in the world. And that’s precisely the point: The problem with the American establishment is not simply that after 20 years in Afghanistan it did not understand the country or foresee what its opponents were likely to do after withdrawing forces. More importantly, our ruling class is so alienated from its own roots that it no longer understands the character of the country it purports to lead, and what makes it different, even exceptional.

The evidence is that our elites sought to graft the effects of a civilization built by and for its own people—democracy, a military and police force, girls’ schools, etc.—onto a primitive society that had to be bribed to accept what we were offering. There is no mystery about why the U.S. experience in Afghanistan ended in failure, embarrassment, and scandal. Nor is it a mystery why the Taliban took over Kabul so quickly. They were fighting for primacy. Their victory was foreordained. The medieval Arab historian Ibn Khaldun explains the dynamic in his 14th-century masterwork, Al Muqaddima. History, he shows, is a repetition of the same pattern seen throughout the ages—a group of nomadic tribesmen overturn an existing sedentary culture, a civilization that has become weak and luxurious.

What drives the success of the rising tribe is its group solidarity, or assabiya. Its awareness of itself as a coherent people with a drive for primacy is frequently augmented by religious ideology. The stronger the tribe’s assabiya, the stronger the group. Assimilating the conquered by imposing its will and worldview on them, the victor lays the foundations of a new civilization. But since, as Ibn Khaldun writes, “the goal of civilization is sedentary culture and luxury,” all groups carry the seeds of their own demise. And so the struggle begins anew.

Ibn Khaldun’s most important contribution to political theory was to show that assabiya is the engine of history. With it, the most primitive tribe can overturn the mightiest of civilizations; without it, a people will wither in the desert. As an Arab, and one who claimed as an ancestor a companion of the prophet of Islam, it was natural that his main focus was the physical and spiritual environment of the Bedouin. It was the harsh desert conditions that bred the Bedouin tribes and the ideological conviction, Islam, that bound them together, and which gave rise to the Arab empire, at its height one of the largest in world history. “Since desert life no doubt is the source of bravery, savage groups are braver than others,” he wrote. “They are, therefore, better able to achieve superiority and to take away the things that are in the hands of other nations.”

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    Henri Matisse Music 1910   • People With 2 COVID-19 Shots Fully Vaccinated Without Booster: Surgeon General (ET) • Top Doctor: Mass Vaccination P
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 20 2021]

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    Listened to M. Atwood interview way back when she first released these tales. She had spent a fair amount of time researching CRISPER and then wrote these tales. If you haven’t read or heard of them they are great stories and the imagination of Margaret comes shining through. The comparisons to our present is a bit disturbing however. Just coincidence or clairvoyant?
    The MaddAddam Trilogy

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    Stop The Shot livestream from The Truth For Health Foundation
    https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=610abae84448902afdfc7e64

    Summary report and additional research by Maximilian Forte: “Stop the Shot”: Resistance through Science, Religion, and Law
    “Stop the Shot”: Resistance through Science, Religion, and Law

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    expatkiwi
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    What Does the Absurd Tell Us About the Pandemic? Part 1 & 2
    https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/what-does-the-absurd-tell-us-about

    Laugh or cry?

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    Germ
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    John Day
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    @CitizenX : Mylittle sister was born at Mercy Hospital in Queens January 1965, a few months before I turned 7, and about a month before I caught measles, the most sustained misery I have ever known.

    Hi-ho, hi-ho, it’s off to work I go, while I am still paid to take care of poor people, which will almost certainly be over well before Halloween, as I am a Vaccine Conscientious Objector in a Federally Qualified Health Center.

    Lovin’ it , while I can.
    Awaiting further marching-orders, God!

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    Prof. Santin, one of the pioneers in the use of hyperimmune plasma for Covid 19 patients, Director of the Yale University Research Center in the USA – is promoting the use of ivermectin –

    I am convinced that ivermectin can really be a game changer in the fight against Covid19. The world literature is demonstrating the efficacy and safety of this drug at all stages of infection – I have witnessed first-hand very rapid responses after ivermectin administration both in Long Covid patients who have not been breathing well for months, and in extremely severe patients during the acute phase who were on oxygen and close to intubation. This evidence convinced me to quickly change my mind. ”

    Alessandro Santin, director del Centro de Investigación de la Universidad de Yale en EEUU habla sobre la Ivermectina

    #84679

    Santin gives a good description of the dynamics of both the virus and IVM.

    #84682
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    If I were a global overlord looking to depop the planet per a plague, I would not pick one so easily fixed by something like Ivermection or (long list of useful preventative and therapies).

    I would use it, perhaps, to puncture the economic bubble in a semi-predictable manner.

    John Day: what legal leverage, if any, does a doctor have vis a vis the Hippocratic Oath/malpractice concepts?

    #84684
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    @madamski cafone: That particular conspiracy theory (which I have a hard time dismissing entirely despite the angels of my better intellect) holds that the “vaccines” will be the thing that brings about the population decline. Of course, the big hole in that plan is that if you can’t compel the entire population to take the vaccine, the parents of tomorrow will be assorted “deplorables” and non-conformist wierdos. And while you would have a less populous world that way, you would also have a society full evangelical fundy conservatives and various bohemians and free-thinkers. That would make for an interesting mix.

    #84685
    Germ
    Participant
    #84686
    Dr. D
    Participant

    So, Biden…mass shooter in chief…well it picked up again, diverting the news cycle, only bomb this time.

    Let me get this straight, since “Not to help terrorists” no one will report it: A North Carolina man needs health care, so he’s a Trump supporter who wants Medicare-for-all. He drives from NC to DC one Thursday afternoon and parks nowhere dangerous, the Library of Congress, waay out on the street. He claims he has a nitrate bomb in his tool box, which is barely enough to blow the truck, much less an empty street with distant buildings on receding sidewalks. He Facebooked his drive up on his own account…but that was all removed. He drove there, but also removed the license plates from his truck then talks to police for a few hours in his own name, while throwing dollar bills no one is going to approach a bomb to collect. He says there are five other people, a movement and revolution, which apparently there aren’t. His demand is, “Mr. Biden, you can save a life, I want to see my wife” ….who he just drove away from an hour ago, with a bomb, viva la revolution! to never see again. He then surrenders and no reports why. To get prison health care? Since in #Oppositeland, the outside is in Lockdown (a prison term) and inside has nationalized health care and UBI?

    And the other scare in Times Square was nothing at all, essentially a prank call put on national news, same time? Am I getting this right? Okey-dokey.

    Really, it’s the license plate thing that’s baffling.

    Right on cue, Lo! Realize Joe may be removed! What? You mean the media’s sudden drift into criticizing talking points is a setup leading somewhere? Hit me with a feather.

    Speaking of dumb talking points, Governor Abbot has the Covid! Ha ha! What a dumb-dumb anti-science denier! Oh wait, he HAD the vaccine? And got it anyway because the vaccine doesn’t work? Or the test doesn’t work? Or both? Nevermind, I already got my rocks off, next subject.

    “We are dependent on the beneficence of a theocratic militia that has demonstrated no capacity for mercy. And the U.S. government has no intention of remedying this condition.”
    I dunno, did anyone read their new rules? They seem pretty straightforward. Clearly they’re more intelligent and trustworthy than the Americans. Besides, isn’t Kabul freer than Paris right now? I won’t say: same people, same sharia rules just yet, but…

    “There will be time to learn why neither he nor “anyone else” anticipated the collapse of the Afghan “army”

    Except they did. And the WaPo’s “Fact Checker” (reported by Dore) was highlighting this unexpected “Intelligence failure”, except that WaPo did a month-long expose on the “Afghan Papers” highlighting all the fraud and endless deception that showed for 20 years they all knew it would fall in an hour and have been lying about it for cash and deaths. There was no “300,000 man army” it was probably 30,000, the other men were paid from sheer fraud and fabrication. There is no possible way they couldn’t know that, even in an air-tight iron vault. And! Inquiring minds say! Say…we know the Afghan army was SELLING everything we gave them back to their Taliban “Enemy” for pennies (really fellow Afghans all vs stupido Americanos), being the best-equipped army, probably better than the Poles, but still, where did the money come from for el Talibani to run a war for 20 years straight, even at a discount?

    Pakistan. That is, U.S. direct foreign aid. So…we paid for one army to pay to shoot up our other army. You know, like in Syria, and most every other place on earth we go? WaPo couldn’t figure that out, somehow a month after THEY reported it. …But that was when Trump was President. Now history happened all different and didn’t happen at all. That’s “Fact Checking” for you. Worse even lying, plagiarizing Snopes could not provide.


    “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.” –Orwell

    Oh and Milley and the other generals ran it all. They all came up through the universal graft and murder of American boys in F-Stan for 20 years. They knew every word, every death just like I know it. They just LIKED it. And just as Ron Paul and all of us said, from Day 1.

    And now? They had 2 year prep-plan to remove methodically, run by the State dept, and SUDDENLY! Whoops! No department all gone fall down go boom. No where I put dat withdrawal plan? Was that where we shut down all the airports BEFORE everyone leaves, or was it AFTER? Can’t figure it out. And that nation goes to CHINA, or as it RUSSIA, who are safe in their embassies, ready to receive the nation from us, complete with all the BlackHawk helicopter tech and another $2B in hardware and bases?

    So confused. I guess it was “close the airports FIRST, Then fly out. Not sure.”

    Well, we can ask the Taliban, since they’re on Twitter and YouTube and our Presidents and Congressmen aren’t.

    You knew all this too, or did you forget and are all surprised now?

    “historians will spend the next several decades wondering how a gang of rough Pashtun tribesmen galvanized by a fundamentalist version of Islam managed to defeat the most advanced military in the world.”

    Um, with $10B of U.S. money out of Pakistan? So mysterious. It take money to prosecute wars? Who can calculate the strange and mysterious ways of history?

    “Our elites sought to graft the effects of a civilization built by and for its own people—democracy, a military and police force, girls’ schools, etc.—onto a primitive society”

    Except theirs is more advanced, since it was successful and ours isn’t, AND our elites can’t see it, so they are dumber and more backward. Funny: so…”Advanced success” loses, and “primitive failure” wins. Strange definitions here. But it’s #OppositeLand, so the more you fail, the more you win! The more advanced you are, the more you lose! That’s how we know you’re moving forward! It’s when you fall backward! People eat it up! Logical to us! Cheers all ’round!

    #84687
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Global overlords, Elites, TPTB–these terms grate on me. What we have is a certain bunch of humans with family, school connections, or genes for megalomania, etc., combined with fate, that find themselves pulling the strings for what Dimitri Orlov calls the technosphere, a kind of sentient system with “a mind of its own.”

    Whether you want to view this as an actual artificial intelligence of some kind or just as a handy metaphor for emergent behavior predicted in systems theory doesn’t really matter much. The main point is, it takes out this Marvel Comics idea of all these folks gathering in the conference rooms of their yachts and rocket ships and celebrity mansions and planning worldwide takeovers, depopulation, whatever. Yes, things look to be headed in a bad direction, but it is not the work of a coordinated pack of evil genuises. It is a confluence of events creating a synergy orchestrated by a somewhat random collection of useful idiots.

    The creation of this system can be partly explained by, or seen through the lens of, Ivan Illich’s theory in Energy and Equity (available as a free pdf online) that the excess energy in our society has the effect both of funneling more and more power into fewer and fewer hands, and then requiring those hands to implement ever stricter social controls, exactly what we are seeing throughout the world today.

    Resistance is not futile. Especially if we are intent on preserving a degree of personal integrity.
    At this point there are two circumstances under which I would get the vaccine:

    If they sent a squad to physically restrain me and inject the vaccine.
    If they threatened to take away access to my son.

    What makes it especially difficult to refuse to submit is not necessarily the handful of useful idiots at the helm, but the mass psychosis phenomenon discussed in a post earlier this week that has made a majority of the population unable to see the sheer craziness of what’s happening and to go along with the anti-human agenda of the technosphere and its puppets. Smart phones and the Internet make that particular virus much more transmissible and virulent, but history shows this is not a unique plague, and fear, lack of true leadership, constantly shifting “information”, and continual propaganda make it a potent pox.

    #84688
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Freedom Train

    This song is a train song, it’s a song about a train
    Not the Atchison, Topeka, not the Chattanooga Choo-Choo
    Nor the one that leaves at midnight for the state of Alabam’
    This song is a train song where the engineer is Uncle Sam

    Here comes the Freedom Train
    You better hurry down
    Just like a Paul Revere
    It’s comin’ into your home town

    Inside the freedom train
    You’ll find a precious freight
    Those words of liberty
    The documents that made us great

    You can shout your anger from a steeple
    You can shoot the system full of holes
    You can always question
    “We the People”
    You can get your answer at the polls

    That’s how it’s always been
    And how it will remain
    So long as all of us
    Keep riding on the Freedom Train

    You can write the President a letter
    You can even tell him to his face
    If you think that you can do it better
    Get the votes and you can take his place

    You can hate the laws that you’re obeying
    You can shout your anger to the crowd
    We may disagree with what you’re saying
    But we’ll fight to let you say it loud
    ” –Irving Berlin
    Bing Crosby, Andrews Sisters.

    #84689
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Alessandro Santin support for Ivermectin goes back to at least March of 2021, kind of old news. Ttouted by FLCC at the time. Like every single other positive about Ivm, did not move the needle one iota.

    #84690
    Mr. House
    Participant

    ” if you can’t compel the entire population to take the vaccine”

    Well they’re certainly trying aren’t they? For something that leaves 99.8 % alive. Strange isn’t it.

    And if they’re were using it to pierce the bubble, they wouldn’t have CARES ACT. Ya know, saving all those zombie corps who’d been doing share buybacks for years. Borrowing at zero and buying back stocks for their rich buddies. Killing mom and pop street but bailing out the losers again. Letting people shop at mega corps, but not little shops cause ya know, the science. Nothing to see here folks.

    #84691
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Still printing 120 billion a month for over a year now, nobody talks about QE anymore though. And my savings account earns me a hot .005% for a decade now. Forcing people into stocks and now forcing people into jabs. GOD BLESS AMERICA, LAND THAT I LOVE, STAND BESIDE HER AND GUIDE HER THRU THE NIGHT WITH THE LIGHT FROM ABOVE. FROM THE MOUNTAINS TO THE PRAIRIES TO THE OCEANS WHITE WITH FOAM, GOD BLESS AMERICA, MY HOME SWEET HOME.

    #84692
    citizenx
    Participant

    Greetings All-
    Madam, thank you for the support and offerings- I’ll buy the coffee if I pass through P-town.

    V and J.Day- Queens birth, standing beneath the twin towers and looking up, the elevator to King Kongs Empire State- now just memories, vanished buildings, vanquished people and disgraceful policies- 9/11 to Afghan to show me your papers.

    Perhaps a time to pause and reflect…be truly present for a moment to savour what was, what is, and where we are…

    I am under no illusions that the US Govt has, and is historically, one of the most murderous disgusting Regimes to have taken power in the last two centuries. The highest body count on the planet post WW2- out murdering all the other Nations on the planet- MIC $$$ death destruction and carnage.

    A Regime Red or Blue- corrupt to the core of Human nature- that murders for pleasure and for profit.

    Bomb, sanction, invade, destroy, overthrow, lie, cheat, steal, rape, torture, propagandize, brainwash, experiment, imprison, drug dealers, surveillance, spy, drop nukes, use chemical weapons, use bio weapons, psychological ops, false flags, murder JFK/RFK, Smedley Butler truth teller…, Federal Reserve, corporate tyranny, censure, crimes against humanity, war crimes extensive…

    It is time to take full historical truthful inventory on the US Regime. What happened to the USSR post Afghanistan? One year?

    Take a stand and offer a bow for basic Human Decency- that which the US Regime does not.

    Evil corrupts and consumes itself…Goodness and positivity grows and flourishes…

    There is only one fight for me, only one choice- it is here and has been brewing for some time.

    Have courage, be strong. Truth is prevailing. Fight with Love, For Love.

    #84693
    Mr. House
    Participant

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/nyt-admits-plastic-covid-barriers-provide-false-sense-security-could-make-things-worse

    Thats what all of it was/is. False sense of security, just like printing money to keeps assets inflated. They’ll lie about wars, asset prices, and anything else for power. All false sense of security until one day the rug gets pulled. And the people will scream to the heavens, who coulda knowed!?!?!?!?!

    #84694
    those darned kids
    Participant

    gnu world order watch: 24% of the world’s humans have received two doses. most countries, the ones those in high vaccine countries could never find on a map, have numbers well below 5%.

    Niger 0.35%
    Oman 16%

    Togo 1.9%
    Honduras 9.8%
    Angola 2.2%
    Nicaragua 2.0%
    Kenya 1.4%
    Syria 0.05%

    i guess the meek shall truly inherit the earth..

    #84695
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    @ John Day:

    Lovin’ it , while I can.
    Awaiting further marching-orders, God!

    You are an inspiration! YOU are a man of integrity. Thank you for showing us the Way forward.

    #84696
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    “ Your choice is to get vaxxed or be treated like a leper.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/tyranny

    #84698
    zerosum
    Participant

    Look at the positive side of what is happening. Those with money, influence, power and security are going to celebrate at the successful execution of their plans.
    By the way, do you believe that there are any survivors decendents elites from past civilizations?

    Hummmm.
    Maybe, in the churches, mosque shrine · synagogue, etc
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religions_and_spiritual_traditions

    #84699
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “Madam, thank you for the support and offerings- I’ll buy the coffee if I pass through P-town.”

    What? No breakfast? Cheapskate.;)

    #84700
    Noirette
    Participant

    I went to a large shopping mall yesterday which has been entirely re-vamped. The renovation is splendid “lux”-urious, even the people strolling around manage to look more glamorous. Bathed in light, floors marble like, intricate dee-sign, the greenery all fresh, etc.

    In the middle of the Central Hall, a makeshift sign: VAX 2ND DOSE, with a line of ppl corraled by those posts with extensible bands that create queuing corridors, like the ones in airports. Completely spoiling the look and super glitzty vibe of the place! 🙂 (Switz.)

    Big Pharma’s aims, to make ppl eager to be vaxxed in shopping centers the way they would queue up to get free lottery tickets for mega-prizes, or to meet a celebrity like Ronaldo and get an autograph + an ice cream, has been accomplished. Madness.

    Anyways…: Germ put up a vid. of Prof. Perrone, France (link, in sep. post)

    Perrone was fired from all of his hospital, University, etc. positions and the Order of Med. Doctors lodged a complaint against him, though afaik his medical licence has not been withdrawn. Interview of him in F, Dec. 2020. (link.) I don’t know exactly what he is experiencing now, no news, which is bizarre, btw. (I will try to find out.)

    Dr. Thomas Binder (Swiss) is another ex. Here he is interviewed by the Richie Allen show (eng.), 45 mins, worth a listen. (link below, also in the sep. post) He details that he was ‘arrested’ and put into a psych. hospital for 6 days, for ‘observation’ and then let go. True story, he is not making it up.

    https://www.thomasbinder.ch/post/corona-crime-explained-in-50-minutes

    There are a few others who have been dragged off to psych wards.

    #84701
    Noirette
    Participant
    #84702
    Susmarie108
    Participant

    The “Ides of August” piece is beautifully written. It reveals what we are coming to understand across every front – that failure is immanent everywhere. The disconnect between the ones “calling the shots” and everyone else is so extreme. The result of their inability/failure to listen, to ask, to understand – provides the ultimate insulation from the truth. No efforts “on the ground” can ever get through to them. Their system is built to disregard and disrespect what they do not want to know.

    Real people, who who work in the real world with great care and LOVE KNOW better.

    “I and too many other people to count spent years of our lives trying to convince U.S. decision-makers that Afghans could not be expected to take risks on behalf of a government that was as hostile to their interests as the Taliban were. Note: it took me a while, and plenty of my own mistakes, to come to that realization. But I did.

    For two decades, American leadership on the ground and in Washington proved unable to take in this simple message. I finally stopped trying to get it across when, in 2011, an inter-agency process reached the decision that the U.S. would not address corruption in Afghanistan.”

    #84703
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “despite the angels of my better intellect”

    The writer in me snorted that phrase like it was crystal joy. You have “angels” (spiritual) opposite “intellect” (uh, intellectual?;) ) bound by “my” (personal ownership/responsibility) and “better” contrasting with “despite”. I’m giddy when I read such immaculately poetic yet logical prose.

    “Of course, the big hole in that plan is that if you can’t compel the entire population to take the vaccine, the parents of tomorrow will be assorted “deplorables” and non-conformist wierdos.”

    The hole in the above’s logic is “Ivermection or (long list of useful preventative and therapies).”

    “…this Marvel Comics idea…”

    Watch out, ag. Some people get belligerent if you mock their religion, be it the Marvel/DC/Star-Wars/Trek cosmic wonder mythology or the fervent faith some have that TPTB will reliably and predictably fulfill their evil plans to subjugate us all.

    maps

    #84704
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Incidentally, this

    loon

    is the lunatic who posts as madamski. His legal name is Robert “Robin” Morrison but was born Robert West. He has an active account on FB as Robert West where he avoids politics like, uh, the plague. He has an inactive FB account under Robin Morrison where he was like a plague of political discussion.

    He lives at 8585 SW Canyon Lane #71, Portland, OR 97225. When the internet goes wonky (I feel it’s pointless to add ‘if or’ to that), he may still be there. He lives without a phone. And, one last time, his email is [email protected]

    Y’all be excellent to one another, pls?

    He has a theme song: Kiss my Ass Goodbye

    #84705
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @ m. Cafone
    “ If I were a global overlord looking to depop the planet per a plague, I would not pick one so easily fixed by something like Ivermection or (long list of useful preventative and therapies).”

    That is the same reason why I don’t think the originators of this pandemic themselves fully understood the physical effects of the vaccine either. They depended instead on their well-placed pawns and lackeys, not on a full knowledge of the virus nor the vaccines.

    The pawns and lackeys will end up being fall guys, while the true originators will continue to be lauded for their philanthropy.

    #84706
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @ mr roboto
    “ Of course, the big hole in that plan is that if you can’t compel the entire population to take the vaccine, the parents of tomorrow will be assorted “deplorables” and non-conformist wierdos. And while you would have a less populous world that way, you would also have a society full evangelical fundy conservatives and various bohemians and free-thinkers. That would make for an interesting mix.”

    Bingo! My thoughts exactly. If the vaccine turns truly nasty I will lose many friends and family members. Not only will it be an interesting mix, but a livid mix.

    #84707
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Ah, now I’ve done it.
    I received an email from my church’s music director to the choir list. Subject: “ [Choir] in person singing? I don’t know yet”
    And…for not the first time in my life, just by being myself I ended up shoving myself into the limelight. I will likely feel very nervous about it over the next day or so, but what is done is done. My thoughts roll around in my mind and at some point the break out and I write or speak…publicly.

    I share the text of my email back to the choir group with you here. (Hat tip to Dr D for the song reference. Phew…I’m already beginning to feel the beginning of “senders regret.” It is HARD to face the possibility of ostracization from a group with whom in the past I shared close community.). Here goes:

    A few questions….

    Why is only staff weighing in on the decision?
    Why is this not a democratic decision?
    Why doesn’t the choir weigh in?
    Are not we not all capable of making these decisions for ourselves?

    I am so sick and tired of receiving communication from the few/one to the many.

    The covid vaccines do not prevent infection nor transmission of the virus, therefore whether or not one participates in group singing is a risk that is up to the individual, not the group To limit something to “the vaccinated” would be significant publicly only if any of the Covid vaccines were “sterilizing” vaccines — but they are not. (A “sterilizing” vaccine is one that creates immunity in the recipient that quickly blocks infection and prevents the pathogen from multiplying in the body — keeping the vaccine recipient safe from getting sick and preventing the vaccine recipient from passing the sickness onto others.) The covid vaccines were never advertised to be sterilizing vaccines and they have proved themselves to be “non-sterilizing” and “leaky” vaccines. (The smallpox vaccine is a sterilizing vaccine. The shingles vaccine is non-sterilizing. The inactivated polio virus vaccine is non-sterilizing; the oral polio vaccine is sterilizing.)

    Back in March 2020 we didn’t know the case fatality for covid. We didn’t know who was more susceptible to the virus and who was less susceptible. But this is August 2021. The case fatality rate for covid is not any more than 0.5%. (By comparison, smallpox case fatality is about 30%.). We know that people with “comorbidities” are more likely to have a bad outcome with covid. For everyone else including those in their 70s, there is a greater than 99% chance of survival of Covid. This comports with my own life experience. I know one person who died of covid. I know of countless others who have survived covid. I know no one with “long covid.”

    It would be very nice to act in a way to “keep everyone safe” but the only way to do that is to keep our distance…indefinitely. Keeping our distance denies our humanity and denies why we met one another in the first place. Those who want to take their chances meeting together should meet.

    I, for one, have no fear of covid and no fear of meeting together.

    We can discuss these things as a group or break into smaller groups to do this. Or we can stay mute. We don’t need moderation. We all have wonderful minds that are capable of rational thought and capable of understanding complex information.

    From: Freedom Train
    You can hate the laws that you’re obeying
    You can shout your anger to the crowd
    We may disagree with what you’re saying
    But we’ll fight to let you say it loud

    #84708
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    “ the work of a coordinated pack of evil genuises”

    Coordinated or not, or evil or dumb or genius it doesn’t matter. What matters is where this takes us in our future. And it does not look good. It looks like a nasty sci-fi movie.

    And no one is stopping it

    #84710

    Biden’s about to dig a deeper hole any moment now. LIVE no less:

    ‘Laser-Focused’ Biden Delivers Speech On Afghanistan Evacuation

    Love the pic:

    bh

    UPDATE: Jalalabad Joe may have fallen asleep. Let’s see if we can locate him.

    #84711
    Germ
    Participant

    Truth for Health Foundation – Stop the Shot Continuation – Press Conference outlining Fertility Problems resulting from the COVID-19 Vaccines.

    https://rumble.com/vldbwt-truth-for-health-foundation-press-conference-august-192021.html

    #84712
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Un-covaxxed Americans are asking, why do they hate us? They hate our freedoms — our freedom of speech, our freedom to assemble and disagree with each other.

    Americans are asking, why do they hate us? …They hate our freedoms — our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other.
    (President George W. Bush, 9/20/2001)

    https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010920-8.html

    #84713
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    From the same speech by GW Bush:

    Freedom and fear are at war. The advance of human freedom — the great achievement of our time, and the great hope of every time — now depends on us.”

    #84714
    Germ
    Participant

    Another must watch:

    Mark Crispin Miller interviewed:

    https://odysee.com/@JamesDelingpoleChannel:0/cmiller:8

    #84715
    Germ
    Participant

    #84716
    Germ
    Participant

    “In Los Angeles, Breakthrough Infections Are Now 30% Of All New Covid Cases Amid Delta Surge”

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/los-angeles-breakthrough-infections-now-011457677.html

    Breakthrough = Failure

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