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Willem de Kooning Door to the River 1960

 

 

It’s an honest question. I’ve been looking at it for a while now, and I can’t find an honest answer. Maybe someone out there can help me with that. There are a number of issues: we know that for two years, deaths have been labeled as “Covid” when they were not, or at least that was doubtful. Car crashes may have been the worst of it, and an extreme example, but we might as well have been in a pandemic of the comorbidities.

If and when you qualify an 85-year old, God bless them, with 5 comorbidities as having died from Covid, that’s not science, it’s propaganda. And now that Omicron is here, with a fatality rate reportedly 95% or so lower than Delta, we get the same thing: the news simply says “Covid deaths”. But what does that mean if one variant is 10-20-90x more lethal than the other? It means nothing.

And I’m still looking to find the first person who died from Omicron. I expect to find one at some point, mind you. But that it’s so hard is strange given that this particular variant is said to spread so much faster than all previous ones. Something that leads governments and their “experts” to claim that even if it less severe, the sheer number game makes it very dangerous anyway.

But 100x zero is still zero. Hence my question. If Omicron spreads as fast as it appears to do, why can’t I find any deaths from it? And if I can’t find them, then why all the mandates and closures and measures in places where it has taken over some 90%+ of all new positive tests?

The other day I wrote in a Debt Rattle:

First time (?!) I see a science report claim deaths from Omicron. Well, sort of:

Clinical Outcomes Among Patients Infected With Omicron

“Rates of ICU admission and mortality after an outpatient positive test were 0.26 (0.10-0.73) and 0.09 (0.01-0.75) fold as high among cases with Omicron variant infection ..”

We now have 1 case reported in UK, 1 case US (debunked), 1 case Israel (no evidence), and yesterday 1 case in Greece, “with” Omicron. (Google translate)

The First Death From Omicron Mutation In Greece: 77-Year-old Unvaccinated With Underlying Diseases

A 77-year-old unvaccinated with underlying diseases is the first victim of the Omicron mutation in Greece. According to Mega, a 77-year-old woman, unvaccinated, with serious underlying diseases, who was treated in the ICU of “Sotiria” hospital, is the first patient with the Omicron mutation that ended. Also, according to Mega, the only hospitals that have been genetically tested for those who have or do not carry the Omicron mutation are “Evangelismos” and “Sotiria”.

As case numbers have gone up 5 fold everywhere. If Omicron is at all capable of killing people, we should have seen a lot more reports like these. We do not.

I was “hopeful” that with that first report on medRxiv, we had our first Omicron death. But if and when you define a mortality rate as “0.09 (0.01-0.75)”, what do I really know? At that same time, I wrote:

There we go again: “..just one of the 52,297 people infected with Omicron died..”.

Omicron 91% Less Likely To Be Fatal Compared To Delta: CDC Study

Really? Where is the case description? Where are the details? It would be so unique that surely it would make headlines.

Walensky gives it away:

“We MAY see deaths from Omicron but I suspect that the deaths that we’re seeing now are still from Delta. “

If one person infected with Omicron died, that doesn’t mean they died FROM Omicron. And CDC director Rochelle Walensky herself appears to indicate zero deaths from Omicron.

I looked a bit further, and granted, there are more reports than just 1 in UK, 1 US, 1 Israel, and 1 Greece. But!

On Dec 24/Jan 7, an outlet named Pharmaceutical Technologys reports:

Germany Confirms First Death Attributed To Covid Omicron Variant

Germany: Germany’s health minister said he expects a surge in coronavirus cases around new year and people will probably need a fourth vaccine shot. Germany also confirmed the country’s first death due to the Omicron variant.

But provides no proof or details.

Dec 27, Reuters:

Australia Records First Omicron Death

Australia reported its first confirmed death from the new Omicron variant of COVID-19 on Monday amid its biggest daily surge in infections, but the authorities refrained from imposing new restrictions saying hospitalisation rates remained low. The death, a man in his 80s with underlying health conditions, marked a grim milestone for the country which has had to reverse some parts of a staged reopening after nearly two years of stop-start lockdowns, due to the fresh outbreak.

Again, no proof, just a statement. How do I know it’s not Alpha or Delta, or obesity, or something else? I don’t.

Also Dec 27, BBC. “India’s first death WITH the Omicron variant..” No, “WITH” is not what I’m looking for. I want FROM, and with evidence.

India Records First Death Linked To Omicron Variant

A 74-year-old man who died in the western state of Rajasthan was India’s first death with the Omicron variant, the health ministry said on Wednesday. Officials said the man had been suffering from diabetes and other comorbid conditions. India has reported 2,630 Omicron cases so far. It reported more than 90,000 cases on Thursday – a nearly six-fold rise over the past week that experts say is fuelled by the Omicron variant. India recorded 325 deaths in the 24 hours but only one has been linked to Omicron, officials said.

This is interesting, from Jan 14:

How Deadly Is The Omicron Variant? WHO Releases Death Report

In a report released last month, the [WHO] said that of the 38 countries touched by the variant, none have reported Omicron-specific deaths. Since then, it has spread rapidly, and one person in the UK has died with the new variant.

Interesting because that WHO report is from December, the same time period where we see this:

What Are The Symptoms Of Omicron And Has Anyone Died From It?

The UK Health Security Agency have reported a total of 75 Omicron related deaths in the United Kingdom. These fatalities were recorded in the latest government agency’s Omicron daily overview report on 30 December 2021. Elsewhere in the world, there has been a Omicron-related death in Germany. And America reported their first Omicron death in late December – an unvaccinated man in the state of Texas. The first UK recorded Omicron related death was reported by the Prime Minister on 13 December. During a visit to a vaccination clinic in West London, Boris Johnson said: “Sadly yes Omicron is producing hospitalisations and sadly at least one patient has been confirmed to have died with Omicron.”

This was based on data from the UK Health Security Agency. Who said the individual who died from Omicron was diagnosed in hospital. Sounds reliable. But the report said 54 deaths, not 75, and it provides no details at all. Just numbers.

Omicron daily overview: 30 December 2021

 

 

Either way would be big news, whether it’s no deaths at all, or the first death has been confirmed. But we end up with something in between. And that’s not satisfactory.

We have a first positive test in the UK, followed up for a whole month by no positive test at all. While the variant spreads like wildfire. We have a report of either 72 or 54 positive tests in Germany, while no other country reports more than one. We have the US CDC director saying just days ago that they haven’t seen any Omicron deaths so far, only Delta. We have the WHO saying in December, their latest report, that not one of 38 countries reported even one positive test.

So yeah, help me out here, what am I missing? I’m looking for reports of deaths FROM, not WITH, Omicron, and with reliable proof. How hard could it be?

 

 

 

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    Willem de Kooning Door to the River 1960     It’s an honest question. I’ve been looking at it for a while now, and I can’t find an honest an
    [See the full post at: Has Even One Person Died From Omicron?]

    #98106
    Valley Don
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    I gave up two years of social-distancing to get some sunshine down in Tucson, where I instantly got omicron. Light fever, chills, scratchy throat. I took some aspirin and in a day and a half it was gone.

    I’m 67. I don’t see how this mutation could kill anyone.

    #98108
    Doc Robinson
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    Today, Japan reported the country’s first two deaths “with the omicron variant.”

    Japan confirmed its first deaths among people infected with the omicron coronavirus variant Saturday.

    The Shizuoka Municipal Government said that a man who died on Tuesday at a medical institution was confirmed to have been infected with the omicron variant based on genomic testing. He was elderly and had severe pre-existing conditions.

    The Chiba Prefectural Government said that an elderly woman who also died Tuesday had been infected with the highly contagious variant as well. She had a pre-existing disease that affected her circulatory system.

    The woman was a close contact with a family member infected with the coronavirus and she was hospitalized from early January after displaying COVID-19 symptoms, including a fever. She had received two shots of a COVID-19 vaccine

    In Okinawa Prefecture, where the variant is raging, over 90% of omicron carriers have been found to be asymptomatic or have only mild symptoms.

    Japan confirms first deaths among COVID-19 patients with the omicron variant
    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/01/15/national/first-omicron-deaths-japan/

    #98109
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    From today’s Debt Rattle:

    Tim Spector, professor of genetic epidemiology at King’s College London… said COVID-19 symptoms are now “for the first time this winter more common than colds and flu and are indistinguishable.

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/omicron-wave-of-covid-19-has-peaked-in-uk-study_4210788.html

    #98110
    those darned kids
    Participant

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-reports-its-first-three-deaths-omicron-coronavirus-variant-2022-01-15/

    few details, though.. and it’s reuters (safe and effective!)

    it seems like many people have died from the overreaction to omnicon, though, often because of ambulance wait times.

    #98111
    Dan Truax
    Participant

    It’s simple look at total yearly or monthly deaths compared to average yearly or monthly total deaths. Subtract, math, no politics included.

    #98112
    zerosum
    Participant

    Let our snob leaders continue to lie. Soon …. everyone will see the truth.
    I’m going to keep wearing my homemade face mask. It looks great. It hides my laughter.
    I’m also going to keep taking my vitamins.

    #98113
    those darned kids
    Participant

    nice, zero.

    #98117
    zerosum
    Participant

    Lot’s of room for a lawyer to make money.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a240_d18e.pdf

    ” …. employees be vaccinated against COVID–19…..
    it cannot be maintained that the Secretary failed to “examine the relevant data and articulate a satisfactory explanation for” his decisions to (1) impose the vaccine mandate instead of a testing mandate; (2) require vaccination of employees with “natural immunity” from prior COVID–19 illness; and (3) depart from the agency’s prior approach of merely encouraging vaccination.”

    (Not one word about Omicron protection. Vaccines do not protect against getting and transmitting Omicron.)

    #98119
    shnorb
    Participant

    It’s hard to find an honest answer if you think every news source is dishonest if it reports covid deaths. 10-20 deaths a day in Victoria every time I bother looking at a newspaper. When I went to hospital with omicron, there were so many people in there that police and ubers were substituting ambulances, not hard to believe some, the elderly, etc, are dying.

    #98120
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Also, I think it’s useful to keep in mind that Delta is still going around. A lot of people including me really underestimated that one.

    #98123
    graffiti
    Participant

    I sense a very slight pivoting in the narrative. CDC director Rochelle Walensky, Australian PM Scott Morrison, and even Fauci have said things recently that defy the Trusted News Initiative narrative. Hopefully they are like rats on a ship scurrying to the right side of history before their ship sinks.

    #98127
    Oroboros
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    Where’s Waldo?

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    #98128
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Truth is hard to find sometimes.

    #98131
    Henry
    Participant

    Very cool painting. My first impression was the Tomb of Christ with the stone rolled aside when I saw it. I guess I conditioned with the beautiful birth of Christ paintings from the previous days.

    #98132
    Henry
    Participant

    We have seen pro-vax family members struggling with the mental disconnect. They are having a hard time waking from the “Mass Hypnosis.”

    They tend to confuse Delta with Omnicron. If one tries to point out that the “Pandemic is over” or “You don’t need to get ‘boosted’ or vaccinated now.” they respond with angry weird statics.

    The pandemic of the mind memes is far from over.

    #98136
    V. Arnold
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    Henry
    Participant
    The pandemic of the mind memes is far from over.

    Joseph Goebbels would be so proud of the mind control results of the U.S. government’s campaign of fear regarding the Covid virus.
    USA, USA, USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #98139
    John Day
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    I like the picture of the dog smiling up from between the sheep’s butts.
    🙂

    #98140
    zerosum
    Participant

    Its hard to find info from China. My computer acts up.
    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2022/01/15/beijing-reports-first-omicron-variant-case-winter-olympics/5851642279457/
    Jan. 15 (UPI) — Officials in Beijing said Saturday that the Chinese capital has recorded its first case of the Omicron variant of COVID-19 ahead of the Lunar New Year and the opening of the Winter Olympics.
    Officials said the infected man first presented with a sore throat Thursday before experiencing fatigue Friday. He tested positive for COVID-19 twice and has since been transferred to a hospital for isolation and treatment, according to China News Service, a state-run news agency.

    #98145
    John Day
    Participant

    Summary: UKHSA appear to have inadvertently released data that appear to show that the vaccines have now substantially increased the risk of covid infection, offer little protection against hospitalisation at the 9 month point and might even increase the risks of death from covid for those aged over 70.

    https://bartram.substack.com/p/have-the-ukhsa-accidentally-released

    #98147
    ₿oogaloo
    Participant

    The sheep dog picture is the art of the day for me.

    As far as today’s essay, I will repeat what I have already said several times. The “from/with Covid” distinction is a false dichotomy. We would like a world where there is a singular cause for all bad things that happen, but that is not how life works. Several days ago Ilargi asked for evidence of single Omicron death. I pointed out that one of the articles in the debt rattle for that same day referred to an Omicron death in Israel. I linked to an article noting two Omicron deaths in Korea on the same day. But now these do not count because the articles did not rule out any other contributing causes??? Does that make any sense? That’s not how we keep data. It never has been. Doctors have a choice for what to write on the death certificate. When there are multiple contributing causes, they often pick one. They do not list them all. They will often select the “last straw” that pushes the patient over the edge. We are moving the goalposts if we insists on making a from/with distinction at this stage.

    Likewise, it may be a mistake to focus solely on death and ignore chronic disease. Omicron might not trigger a cytokine storm like the original strain and delta, but we can expect that it is binding to ACE2 receptors everywhere, and that cannot be a good thing. I have refused the gene transfer vaccines because of my concern about repeated exposure to the spike protein and its interactions with ACE2 receptors. For that reason, I am as wary of Omicron as I am of the vaccines, especially because we lack the long term data of immune protection. We do not have the data to dismiss Omicron as “one and done.” This is not a natural virus. It is a bioweapon. Omicron is not a naturally evolved strain, but appears to have been engineered with carefully selected mutations to enhance infectiousness. Maybe it was done with good intentions, but I see it as yet another grand mass scale experiment, just like the first round of vaccines.

    Those who are responsible need to be held accountable.

    #98148
    VietnamVet
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    History is cyclic. There is truth and reality but human beings are in one of those cycles when the upper-class dare not acknowledge the truth that they are addicted to greed and their psychopathy is forcing the masses to drink “Kool-Aid”. But there were survivors at Jonestown. The trick is to hide in the bush until this madness is over.

    If there are no direct deaths from omicron, the coronavirus pandemic is over until the next mutation. Last year, there was a increase in the death rate of middle-aged American workers beyond what was caused by COVID but it is only reported in the fringe news. But the results can be seen in back stories. For example, for the first time in 40 years, Maine potatoes are being shipped to market by railroad due to the lack of truckers.

    Today’s corporate directed for-profit science is just as divorced from reality as the Third Reich’s Eugenics Movement or the Soviet Union’s embrace of Lamarckism.

    But there is the hope. If prepared, reality’s bite back won’t be a shock.

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