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Herbert James Draper A Deep Sea Idyll 1902(?!)

 

 

You’re not going to hear it from the western media or politicians, let alone NATO, but overnight the Ukraine war, or special operation, ended. And Russia won, on all fronts and on their own terms. Thre’ll be some more skirmishes, and a few more body bags, but not because the outcome of the war could still be changed. It’s done.

It’s funny to see how the nazi Azov “soldiers” that surrendered are now portrayed as heroic defenders of Ukraine, after hiding in a steel plant for 80 days, but they still lost. There are probably a few hundred left there, the ones who have most to fear from being captured, and all Russia has to do is to wait for them to come out. Or not.

The reason they went from nazis to heroes in no time at all in the western and Ukrainian press was that they were counted on to be the “real fighters” their country needed. Now that they’ve surrendered, without “fighting to the end”, the country, army and civilians alike, will see its morale plummet. Ukraine lost, Zelensky lost, and NATO lost. While at the same time, “our” press keeps on coming up with stories of Russian losses and weakness etc. And war crimes.

The only sensible thing left to do is to negotiate a peace in the conflict, in which Russia will see -most of- its demands (no nukes, no nazis, no NATO) granted. It’s either that or Zelensky will become guilty of the death and long drawn-out misery of many of his compatriots, without gaining an inch, and it’s hard to see him desiring that. Don’t be surprised if Zelensky surrenders soon as well, or leaves the country, claiming that Russia wants him dead and his escape was “heroic”.

 

There is one alternative: a full scale NATO attack on Russia, but that would seem far-fetched. Behind the western rhetoric there are too many minds who have read about the defeats of Napoleon and Hitler when they tried that, and who also don’t like the risk of one of Russia’s 6,000 nuclear warheads landing on their territory.

The saddest thing is that there was never any reason for this. You can paint off Putin as a crazy monster a million times, and the special action as completely unprovoked, but you would have to ignore all of Russia’s warnings over decades that this is an “existential” issue for their country. Which means they won’t back down. And everybody knew.

And besides, a lot of NATO countries’ governments have an idea what would become of them without Russian resources, fertilizer, crops, oil, gas etc. They’re willing to support NATO only up to a point, including sanctions. They don’t want to be responsible for cold and hunger for their people. If only because that would end the careers of many a politician.

It’ll take some time to fabricate the language that allows for such a defeat to be presented as a victory, but Spin Doctors “R” Us. And all of the people who’ve displayed Ukrainian flags wherever they could will need to find a narrative to defend that as well, but time heals many wounds, also the imaginary ones.

 

And yes, all this changes the face of the world enormously. The US, and through it NATO, is officially no longer the unipolar ruler of the world. They will have to share that limelight with Russia, China, India and others (Brussels has sidelined itself). That may be bad news for whoever is in power in US/NATO, but for citizens it’s a different story. They have nothing to fear from Russia’s military, but a lot from missing out on Russian resources.

In short: the war is over. The US will try to send over another $40 billion in “aid” -at least half of it weapons-, but there’ll be nobody left to handle the small fraction that is not destroyed by Russia. And just like the Russians can simply wait for the last Azov troops to leave the steel compound, they can also sit back and track any NATO weapons deliveries, and then take them out. It is really over. Unless we go all out Napoleon. I don’t think we will.

Meanwhile, we should all be happy that the war is over. Well, are we?

 

 

 

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    Herbert James Draper A Deep Sea Idyll 1902(?!)     You’re not going to hear it from the western media or politicians, let alone NATO, but ov
    [See the full post at: War Is Over But They Won’t Tell You]

    #108086
    willem
    Participant

    We’re about to witness something unique in journalism. Baghdad Bob writing for the New York Times.

    #108087
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Agreed, but was this post approved for release by Scott Ritter?

    😎

    #108090
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    fwiw, best thing you’ve written in awhile. But you’re still a pissant.

    #108091
    boilingfrog
    Participant

    Yes, very happy the non-stop missile and artillery barrages will (hopefully) be starting to wind down. It seems a fate worse than death.

    The natural transition of the US “off” center stage, will certainly continue, just down different avenues.

    #108094
    zerosum
    Participant

    Spin Doctors “R” Us
    There are may way to tell lies.
    The scams will continue.

    #108095
    zerosum
    Participant

    ^^^
    may = many

    #108096
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Gonzalo Lira really hit the nail on the head when he compared the US press to the late Brezhnev-era Pravda in the USSR. I can’t even stand to look at the headlines to which I get subjected on my Bing homepage anymore!

    #108097
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Herbert James Draper A Deep Sea Idyll 1902(?!)

    Indescribable beauty…words fail…

    The bully got smacked hard by the bullied…

    #108098
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Best summation

    from Reminiscence of the Future by Andrei Martyanov

    “…The only way they fight is by means of hiding inside civilian infrastructure and using civilians as a human shield, period.

    That’s US and UK command of VSU, my friends.

    This is all PR on their side because, as I am on record, they DO NOT understand what modern warfare against peer is (as the US condescendingly uses this term, I omit this pip-squeak UK) and don’t know how to fight it.

    As I already stated–they are achieving their main goal of “erasing” Afghanistan debacle from public memory, because the ongoing annihilation of the US best ever proxy under the Pentagon’s direct command will surely (already, actually) eclipse the shame of Afghanistan.

    In this respect, the US and its military “experts” really enjoyed an outstanding “success”.

    This is what happens when one claims to be “the finest fighting force in history” without facing a real war against the opponent who has big guns.”

    #108101
    Oroboros
    Participant

    In the 1988 movie the The Great Outdoors there was the scene of the raccons going through the trash looking for goodies.

    One found some hotdogs and started eating them, another racoon said,” You know what hotdogs are made of don’t you, lips and assholes.”

    Now we know that’s what the US and UK military “experts” are made of in Ukraine, nothing but lips and assholes.

    .

    #108106
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    If this were only so.

    This is time for negotiation to build a new Iron Curtain across the Balkans to separate Ukrainians, Poles, Romanians, Hungarians, Slovaks from the Russians (Swedes and Finns too). Ukraine’s only chance of survival is keeping Odessa and access to the Black Sea. Russia has to accept that it made a huge mistake by invading even if they think they had no other alternative. Western Corporate Oligarchs have to give up their attempt to destabilize the Kremlin, splinter the Russia Federation, and gain control over Russia’s energy, food, and mineral resources. Unfettered profiteering always results in corruption, destruction, collapse, then death.

    North Americans and Europeans have to accept and plan ahead to live in the future within the resources boundaries of each nation and continent, learn to share, and restore governments by and for the people. All of this is needed if western civilization is to survive.

    Good luck doing it!

    #108107
    citizenx
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    @boscohorowitz

    But you’re still a pissant.

    You can change your meds, you can change your dress, but you can’t change yourself

    but, but what happened madamski?

    You said you were “done here” and yet you still lurk like the butt hurt jerk

    hahahaha- I told you you’d be back. Psychos like you just/can’t/stop

    Now Fuck Off you sniveling little coward

    Well Look Who It Is-

    Look who it is
    Look who it is

    Well, look who it is that’s been meeting you suddenly.
    Well, look who it is, I can see you remember me.

    Yes, I’m the one who believed I just didn’t need you,
    Then started feeling blue. Look who it is

    Well, look who it is, Did you think I’ve forgotten you?
    I realized that you may have found someone new.

    Baby, now I realize I have made a big mistake.
    There are teardrops in my eyes and my heart is about to break.

    Well, look who it is with his hand reaching out for mine.
    Well, look who it is, everything’s gonna turn out fine.

    Oh, I have waited so long and prayed that I meet you.
    You with all your charms. Look who it is it’s you and you’re in my arms.

    Woe, look who it is.

    #108113
    SeaBirds
    Participant

    Yes, we are happy that the people in the former Russian areas will be liberated from the oppression of the corrupt Nazi/Nato regime in Kiev. Happy that the tide has turned against the Empire of Lies with its endless wars, it’s exorbitant privilege, it’s predatory corporatist brutality. Not so happy with the next levels of oppression lined up for us by the dark puppet masters lurking in the shadows (CBDCs, further pandemics, vax mandates, vax passports, climate change lockdowns, social credit systems etc). But your brilliant article brightened our day immensely, Raul. Thank you, we much appreciate your daily efforts.

    #108115
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    This video from Gonzalo Lira sheds some light on why Russia will likely need to annex he eastern half of Ukraine’s ethnic Russian oblasts (Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson).

    #108119
    christine
    Participant

    This battle is over, but the war has just started. The New American Order of the Deep State and the Oligarchs using the Great Reset as part of the totalitarian takeover plan has just begun. These people, the CIA, Kissinger, recruited Schwab and have been working on this since the ’70s. As Arendt points out, totalitarians have to take everything. They know no boundaries. They are consolidating and hardening per Lavrov this week: “It is being insinuated that NATO as the vanguard of the community of democracies should replace the UN in matters of international politics, or at least bring global affairs under its sway. The G7 should step in to run the global economy and from time to time invite benevolently the extras the West needs at this or that moment.” Either Russia will destroy the “decision makers” of the West, along with the Nazis, or they will take it, and China, and a grim transhuman future awaits those left to slave.

    #108284
    TonyPrep
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    The saddest thing is that there was never any reason for this. You can paint off Putin as a crazy monster a million times, and the special action as completely unprovoked, but you would have to ignore all of Russia’s warnings over decades that this is an “existential” issue for their country.

    I hope you’re not suggesting that this is some kind of justification for Russia attacking another country. It doesn’t really matter if Russia (AKA Putin) has been saying this for years; any independent country has a right to pursue its own course, providing it doesn’t attack another country in so doing.

    Russia hasn’t yet won this war (which it claims is not a war) and it seems premature to claim it has, especially on its own terms.

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