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Claude Monet O Rio (The River) 1881

 

Zelensky ‘Senses’ Weakening Western Support (RT)
Zelensky Threatens To Terrorize Europe (MoA)
Ukrainians Blame Zelensky For Corruption – Poll (RT)
EU Believes Ukraine Is ‘A Very Corrupt Country’ – Politico (RT)
Blinken Contradicts Ukraine On Peace Negotiations (RT)
Elon Musk Responds To Ukraine ‘Treason’ Claims (RT)
Medvedev Advocates Suspending Diplomatic Relations With EU (TASS)
Russian Customs Chief Accuses EU Of ‘Total Lawlessness’ (RT)
Brazilian Court To Decide About Putin If He Attends G20 Summit – Lula (TASS)
Lies And Pretence In New London Novichok Hearing (Helmer)
The Gun Charge Against Hunter Is the Way of Covering Up the Real Issues (PCR)
The “Why Not” Culture: The Georgia Final Report Should Worry Us All (Turley)
The Mills of the Gods (Jim Kunstler)
9/11 After 22 Years (Paul Craig Roberts)

 

 

 

 

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“A judge in Pennsylvania has ruled that former President Trump has ‘presidential immunity’ and cannot be sued over statements he made about 2020 election fraud.”

 

 

 

 

He’s directly threatening Europe now:

“..the millions of Ukrainian refugees now residing in foreign nations. They have generally “behaved well,” but if the hosts “drive these people into a corner,” the end result will not be “a good story” for Europe..”

Zelensky ‘Senses’ Weakening Western Support (RT)

If Western nations do not maintain their assistance to Kiev, they could face defeats at the ballot box and trouble from the millions of Ukrainian refugees they host, President Vladimir Zelensky has warned. In an interview with The Economist, Zelensky complained about weakening support from senior Western officials, which he claimed to have seen in their eyes during meetings. “I see that he or she is not here, not with us” contrary to spoken assurances, he said, according to the interview published on Sunday. According to Zelensky, failure to support Ukraine amounts to siding with Russia in the conflict, which escalated into open hostilities in February 2022. “If partners do not help us, it means they will help Russia to win,” he stated.

Zelensky believes that Western voters will not forgive their leaders if they “lose Ukraine.” Further trouble may also come from the millions of Ukrainian refugees now residing in foreign nations. They have generally “behaved well,” but if the hosts “drive these people into a corner,” the end result will not be “a good story” for Europe, the president added. The Ukrainian leader said he is “morally” ready for a long war with Russia, but this will require the country to switch to a “totally militarized economy.” He added that now is “a bad moment” for peace talks with Russia, due to the lackluster battlefield progress over the three months of Kiev’s summer ‘counteroffensive’. Moscow has estimated Ukrainian losses during the push at over 66,000 troops and 7,600 heavy weapons.

The Economist noted that the Zelensky government had built up expectations for the offensive, but now he is “carefully adjusting his message to reality.” The Ukrainian president also appeared to take credit for the drone attacks deep inside Russian territory, which Kiev formally refuses to claim as its own. Explaining his strategy, he said public support for the Russian government will fall “because our drones will land.”In a “long war,” Moscow will lose regardless of how the Russians feel because the Russian economy will fail, he added. The Russian government expects the economy to grow by 2.5% or more in 2023. Recent forecasts by the World Bank and the IMF have upgraded their predictions for Russia due to strong industrial production and higher-than-expected energy revenues.

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Moon of Alabama noticed it too.

“I have seen such threats from low ranking individuals of the fascist Bandera fringe. They spoke of terrorism they would unleash in the West should it end its support for Ukraine. That the Ukrainian president now reinforces such threats shows how deeply he immersed himself in that mindset..”

Zelensky Threatens To Terrorize Europe (MoA)

The Economist published another interview with the Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski. It includes his usual unrealistic platitudes about not ending the war until Russia has completely pulled back. Speaking with an English language media he didn’t miss to mention the ever misunderstood story about Chamberlain’s move in Munich: “Tapping loudly on the table, Mr Zelensky rejects outright the idea of compromise with Vladimir Putin. War will continue for “as long as Russia remains on Ukrainian territory”, he says. A negotiated deal would not be permanent. The Russian president has a habit of creating “frozen conflicts” on Russia’s borders (in Georgia, for example), not as ends in themselves but because his goal is to “restore the Soviet Union”. Those who choose to talk to the man in the Kremlin are “tricking themselves”, much like the Western leaders who signed an agreement with Adolf Hitler at Munich in 1938 only to watch him invade Czechoslovakia. “The mistake is not diplomacy. The mistake is diplomacy with Putin. He negotiates only with himself.”

In 1938 Chamberlain had no other choice but to give in on Czechoslovakia. Britain was not ready for war and the parts Hitler wanted to annex from Czechoslovakia had undeniably a largely German population: “He contended that Sudeten German grievances were justified and believed that Hitler’s intentions were limited”. Zelenski goes on to threaten, in rather unthankful fashion, those countries which have delivered aid to Ukraine but may want to cut their losses: “Curtailing aid to Ukraine will only prolong the war, Mr Zelensky argues. And it would create risks for the West in its own backyard. There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned. Ukrainians have generally “behaved well” and are “very grateful” to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity. But it would not be a “good story” for Europe if it were to “drive these people into a corner”.

I have seen such threats from low ranking individuals of the fascist Bandera fringe. They spoke of terrorism they would unleash in the West should it end its support for Ukraine. That the Ukrainian president now reinforces such threats shows how deeply he immersed himself in that mindset. A previous Economist story shows that Ukraine has already set up the necessary infrastructure to wage a terrorist campaign: “In modern Ukraine, assassinations date back to at least 2015, when its domestic security service (SBU) created a new body after Russia had seized Crimea and the eastern Donbas region. The elite fifth counter-intelligence directorate started life as a saboteur force in response to the invasion. It later came to focus on what is euphemistically called “wet work”.

“Valentin Nalivaychenko, who headed the SBU at the time, says the switch came about when Ukraine’s then leaders decided that a policy of imprisoning collaborators was not enough. Prisons were overflowing, but few were deterred. “We reluctantly came to the conclusion that we needed to eliminate terrorists,” he says. A former officer of the directorate describes it in similar terms. “We needed to bring war to them.” In 2015 and 2016 the directorate was linked to the assassinations of key Russian-backed commanders in the Donbas; Mikhail Tolstykh, aka “Givi”, killed in a rocket attack; Arsen Pavlov, aka “Motorola”, blown up in a lift; Alexander Zakharchenko, blown up in a restaurant.

Intelligence insiders say the SBU’s fifth directorate is playing a central role in counter-Russia operations. From there it is just a short step towards total war: “Meanwhile, a long war of attrition would mean a fork in the road for Ukraine. The country would lose even more people, both on the front lines and to emigration. It would require a “totally militarised economy”. The government would have to put that prospect to its citizens, Mr Zelensky says, without specifying how; a new social contract could not be the decision of one person. Almost 19 months into the war, the president says he is “morally” ready for the switch. But he will only broach the idea with his people if the weakness in the eyes of his Western backers becomes a “trend”. Has that moment come? No, not yet, he says. “Thank God.” Does Zelenski know of any country with a totally militarized economy that survived? I have yet to hear of one.

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“..78% of Ukrainian adults see Zelensky as “directly responsible” for Kiev’s corruption problem..”

“..only 18% of Ukrainian adults disagreed with the statement that Zelensky bears responsibility…”

And we hand him tens of billions.

Ukrainians Blame Zelensky For Corruption – Poll (RT)

The vast majority of Ukrainians believe that President Vladimir Zelensky is at fault for widespread corruption in the country’s government and military, a new study has revealed. The poll, released on Monday, found that 78% of Ukrainian adults see Zelensky as “directly responsible” for Kiev’s corruption problem. It was conducted by the Ilko Kucheriv Democratic Initiatives Charitable Foundation and the Kiev International Institute of Sociology. Prior to the launch of Russia’s military offensive in February 2022, Ukraine consistently ranked among the world’s most corrupt nations, but it was touted as a bastion of freedom and democracy as the US and its NATO allies rallied public support for massive aid to Kiev. However, Ukrainian corruption remains a concern and could hinder the country’s bid to join the European Union, an unidentified Western diplomat told Politico on Monday.

Ukraine is a “very corrupt country,” the diplomat said, adding that Zelensky’s plan to use the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) to prosecute graft cases could “send the wrong message.” Upon landing in Kiev for a surprise visit on Monday, German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock reportedly said Ukraine needed to step up its efforts to fight corruption. The Ukrainian poll was conducted from July 3 to July 17 in face-to-face interviews with thousands of citizens across the country. There were no major differences in findings based on region or socioeconomic factors. Respondents aged 60 and older took a harsher view, with 81% saying Zelensky was responsible for government corruption. The rate was 70% in the youngest segment, ages 17 to 29. Overall, only 18% of Ukrainian adults disagreed with the statement that Zelensky bears responsibility.

Documents obtained by the International Association of Investigative Journalists in 2021 showed that Zelensky and his business partners set up offshore companies to purchase lavish properties in central London. Zelensky transferred his stake in one of the companies to an aide just before he was elected president in 2019. Supporters of former Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko accused Zelensky and his associates of using their offshore accounts to evade taxes. Zelensky has purged officials in his government for alleged corruption, including an embezzlement scheme involving humanitarian aid. Just this month, he sacked Defense Minister Aleksey Reznikov, who came under fire earlier this year over purchases of military rations at inflated prices. However, the new defense chief, Rustem Umerov, is reportedly under investigation for alleged crimes in his previous job.

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If everyone’s corrupt, who investigates?

EU Believes Ukraine Is ‘A Very Corrupt Country’ – Politico (RT)

Widespread corruption in Ukraine could hamper Kiev’s bid for EU membership, a western European diplomat told Politico on Monday. He said Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky’s efforts to tackle the problem have also alarmed Brussels. Ukraine applied for membership in the European Union last February, and was formally granted candidate status four months later. Although European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen is expected to address the issue of enlargement during her state of the union speech on Wednesday, and EU Council President Charles Michel has vowed to admit all candidate nations by 2030, Ukraine’s bid could be hamstrung by rampant corruption. Ukraine is a “very corrupt country,”an anonymous western European diplomat told Politico.

“We want to give a positive signal to Ukraine but things such as this proposal to give more power to [Ukraine’s] intelligence [services] over corruption can send the wrong message.” The proposal in question was raised by Zelensky last month. Following a purge of allegedly corrupt officials at the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, Zelensky announced that he would task the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) with probing and prosecuting corruption cases, taking investigative power away from the country’s multiple anti-graft agencies. The SBU reports solely to Zelensky. Representatives of Ukraine’s existing anti-corruption agencies told Politico last month that by making the SBU the only body allowed to investigate these cases, Zelensky is essentially giving himself the power to decide which corrupt officials to prosecute and which ones to shield.

There is precedent for these fears, the head of the Anti-Corruption Action Center (ACAC), Vitaly Shabunin, said. Oleg Tatarov, the deputy head of Zelensky’s office, was under investigation by the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) last year, when the case was unexpectedly transferred to the SBU. “It was buried there,”Shabunin said. “Now [Zelensky’s] office wants to make that into practice.” Ukraine has for years been ranked as one of the most corrupt countries in the world. According to Transparency International’s Corruption Perception Index, as of 2022, the country ranked 116th out of 180. Aside from corruption concerns, disputes between Ukraine and European nations over agriculture could also hold up Kiev’s membership bid. Ukrainian farmers could undercut their European counterparts with cheap grain exports, meaning that the EU will likely have to reform its Common Agricultural Policy if Ukraine is to be admitted, Politico noted.

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“..Russia controlled more land last month than it did at the beginning of the counteroffensive..” But Blinken said Ukraine reclaimed 50%.

Blinken Contradicts Ukraine On Peace Negotiations (RT)

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has claimed that the Ukrainian government will agree to peace talks with Russia if Moscow offers to negotiate first. Ukrainian leaders have argued otherwise, however, and insist that peace “needs to be won on the battlefield.” “Thus far, we see no indication that [Russian President] Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy,” Blinken told ABC News on Sunday. “If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we’ll be right behind them,” he added. Blinken and other top American officials have long insisted that the Ukrainian government will decide when to seek peace with Russia, and that the US will continue to supply Kiev with weapons until that time comes.

Ukraine agreed in principle to a Turkish-mediated peace deal in April 2022, but walked away from the agreement after a visit to Kiev by then-British prime minister Boris Johnson. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has since issued a decree forbidding any negotiations with Putin’s government, as well as repeatedly vowing to take back the territories of Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Zaporozhye, and Crimea – the latter of which voted to join Russia in 2014 – by force. Retaking this land, however, has proven costly for Kiev. More than three months into its long-awaited summer counteroffensive, the Ukrainian military has lost more than 66,000 troops and 7,600 pieces of heavy weaponry, according to the latest figures from the Russian Defense Ministry.

In exchange, Kiev’s forces have only managed to reclaim a handful of villages near Zaporozhye, while Russia controlled more land last month than it did at the beginning of the counteroffensive, according to the Washington Post. Nevertheless, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba declared last week that the conflict “cannot be ended by simply bringing belligerent parties to the table for negotiations.” “It needs to be won on the battlefield for Russia to become serious about negotiating peace,”Kuleba added. Russia maintains that it is open to a diplomatic solution to the conflict, but that any peace deal would have to take into account the “new territorial reality” – that Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Zaporozhye, and Crimea will never be ceded back to Ukraine. Furthermore, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said negotiations would be held “not with Zelensky, who is a puppet in the hands of the West, but directly with his masters.”

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“..if anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such. Please tell them that very clearly.”

Elon Musk Responds To Ukraine ‘Treason’ Claims (RT)

American tech billionaire Elon Musk has responded to criticism over his refusal to help enable a Ukrainian drone attack on Russian naval forces in Crimea by pointing out that he’s a citizen of only the US and isn’t obliged to fight for Kiev. “I am a citizen of the United States and have only that passport,” Musk said on Monday in a post on his X (formerly Twitter) social media platform. “No matter what happens, I will fight for and die in America.” He added that in light of the fact that the US Congress hasn’t declared war on Russia, “if anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such. Please tell them that very clearly.”

At issue is Musk’s decision last year to prevent his Starlink satellite network from being used to guide Ukrainian naval drones for an attack against the Russian Black Sea Fleet on the Crimean coast. When news of Musk’s refusal came to light last week, US media outlets suggested that he had been traitorous, and Ukrainian presidential aide Mikhail Podoliak accused him of “committing evil and encouraging evil.” The Tesla CEO and SpaceX founder gave Ukraine free use of more than 20,000 Starlink terminals after Russia launched its military offensive against Kiev in February 2022. His aim was to keep Ukrainians from losing internet access and communications capabilities amid the conflict.

However, Musk expressed concern about his network being used for offensive purposes and potentially playing part in triggering a wider conflict. He therefore refused Kiev’s pleas to extend the country’s Starlink coverage all the way to Sevastopol. “If I had agreed to their request, then SpaceX would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation.” CNN host Jake Tapper argued on Sunday that Musk had “effectively sabotaged” an American ally, and he asked US Secretary of State Antony Blinken whether the “capricious billionaire” should therefore face “repercussions.” Blinken declined to condemn Musk and pointed out that Starlink had been a vital tool for Ukraine’s defense.

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..”straightforward and honest Brussels bosses” who “told all Russians directly and without beating around the bush: you are second-class people for us.”

Medvedev Advocates Suspending Diplomatic Relations With EU (TASS)

Russian Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev has called for suspending diplomatic relations with the EU in response to the EU decision to bar Russian citizens from entering the EU with everyday personal items, calling it a spit in the face of every Russian. “What should we do about it? Certainly not impose tit-for-tat retaliatory restrictions on EU citizens. We are not racists, in contrast to many leaders of those countries whose relatives served in the SS (Schutzstaffel, the notorious paramilitary organization under Germany’s Nazi regime – TASS). Moreover, those [Europeans] who travel here usually have a love and appreciation for Russia. It would be better just to suspend diplomatic relations with the EU for a while.

And to call our diplomatic personnel home,” Medvedev suggested, commenting on the European Commission’s clarification on the EU’s ban on importing automobiles, smartphones, suitcases and shampoo, among an entire range of items, into the EU from Russia, even for strictly personal use. Medvedev mockingly “praised” the EU leaders, calling them “straightforward and honest Brussels bosses” who “told all Russians directly and without beating around the bush: you are second-class people for us.” And the EU’s decision is clearly not meant as just punishment for what Brussels sees as the “criminal and aggressive regime in the Kremlin.” Rather, “this is a spit in the face of every citizen of Russia,” Medvedev emphasized. In suggesting measures to suspend Moscow’s diplomatic relations with the EU, Medvedev noted that only such a move could make Brussels officials truly afraid, “because embassies are [traditionally] evacuated before certain very specific events.”

“Who knows what else these ‘orcs’ from that immense ‘Mordor’ are capable of?” Medvedev asked sarcastically, using a common derogatory slur used in the West to refer to Russia and Russians, equating them to the goblin-like humanoid creatures in J.R.R. Tolkien’s fantasy novel “The Lord of the Rings.” The European Commission’s clarification dated September 8 bans the import from Russia to the EU of goods listed in Annex 21 to EU Regulation No. 833/2014, regardless of the purpose of their use and the duration of stay in the EU, including cars with less than 10 seats. The EC emphasized that it does not matter whether the vehicles are being used for private or commercial purposes. The list contains a wide range of all sorts of items from cellular telephones and audio and video recording devices, to suitcases, hold-alls, articles of clothing, toothpaste, shampoo and other hygiene products.

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“Goods that are classified as prohibited – even shampoo and toilet paper – should be confiscated..”

“..at least “they have not banned [Russian nationals] from wearing pants when crossing the border.”

Russian Customs Chief Accuses EU Of ‘Total Lawlessness’ (RT)

Russia’s interim customs chief has blasted the European Commission’s instruction to EU member states to confiscate personal possessions of arriving Russian tourists. “How do we take the European Commission’s ban on traveling by personal car or with smart phones? Well, it’s utter nonsense,”Ruslan Davydov told journalists on Monday on the sidelines of an economic forum in the city of Vladivostok. The EU slapped wide-ranging sanctions on trade with Russia over the Ukraine conflict. Last Friday, however, Brussels explained that the restrictions should also apply to items for personal use brought by tourists crossing the bloc’s border. Goods that are classified as prohibited – even shampoo and toilet paper – should be confiscated, according to the clarification. The European Commission urged “EU operators [to] identify, assess, and understand the possible risks of sanctions circumvention” when conducting customs checks.

Davydov branded the decision as “total lawlessness” that defies the normal logic of customs controls. Moscow has little influence on the policies, since the EU broke all cooperation with Russia, he noted. “The way they regulate customs procedures on their soil can only invoke regret and incomprehension,” he added. But at least “they have not banned [Russian nationals] from wearing pants when crossing the border.”=The official assured that the Federal Customs Service, which he heads, shall not adopt a similar policy regarding tourists arriving from the EU. The Russian embassy in Helsinki urged citizens on Sunday not to travel to Finland in cars with Russian license plates, citing the risk of seizure stemming from the new guidelines.

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Lula opens the door and closes it at the same time. Putin as Schrödinger’s president: “..the decision [on a possible arrest] is within the power of the judiciary, not my government..”

Brazilian Court To Decide About Putin If He Attends G20 Summit – Lula (TASS)

The issue of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s arrest during his visit to the G20 summit in Brazil in 2024 will be considered by the country’s court taking into account the arrest warrant issued for the Russian leader by the International Criminal Court (ICC), the country’s president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva said. “If Putin decides to attend [next year’s summit], the decision [on a possible arrest] is within the power of the judiciary, not my government,” Reuters quoted the politician as saying. On September 9, in an interview with the Indian TV channel Firstpost, Lula da Silva said that as long as he was president of Brazil, “he [Putin] will not be arrested without the authorization of the authorities.” At the same time, Reuters pointed out the president questioned Brazil’s membership in the ICC. He recalled that neither Russia, China nor the US are members of the organization.

According to the leader, such agreements harm developing countries. On March 17, the ICC issued arrest warrants for Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russian Presidential Commissioner for Children’s Rights Maria Lvova-Belova, alleging that they were responsible for the unlawful deportation of Ukrainian children. It could theoretically be executed if the Russian leader arrives in one of the countries that recognize the ICC’s jurisdiction. Moscow has rejected such accusations, calling “the very phrasing of the question” outrageous and pointing out that Russia does not recognize the jurisdiction of the ICC, so its decisions are null and void for Russia.

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“Sergei Skripal, the original target and survivor of the Novichok attack allegations in the official narrative, must never be allowed to testify publicly..”

Lies And Pretence In New London Novichok Hearing (Helmer)

In a London courtroom last week, lawyers for the British government and the presiding judge, Lord Anthony Hughes (lead image, centre), revealed they will resist the efforts of the Dawn Sturgess family to obtain a multi-million pound settlement in compensation for what they claim, and the government says, was her death five years ago from Novichok poisoning by Russian state agents. Secrecy is the key, not only to the big money claim, but to the government’s aim to defeat it and at the same time preserve the official story that the Kremlin ordered and carried out the chemical warfare attack in England in 2018.

Lord Hughes is defending the government’s effort to keep secret enough of the evidence in the case to block Adam Straw KC and Michael Mansfield KC, the Sturgess family lawyers, from demonstrating that the British security services should have known in advance – and did know enough — to have protected Sturgess from the Russian cause of her death. Their argument has been that for this negligence a very large sum of money should be paid to Sturgess’s heirs, to Rowley, and to the lawyers. The judge, the government, and the lawyers have agreed, however, there is one secret they must all keep. Sergei Skripal, the original target and survivor of the Novichok attack allegations in the official narrative, must never be allowed to testify publicly to what he knows.

To cover this up, Straw, Mansfield, and a lawyer representing the British press lied in court last week, claiming they want “open justice” from the secret services and the police. According to Jude Bunting KC representing the media, “open justice is about avoiding ill-informed speculation about proceedings and, insofar as material is in the public domain because of assertion, or even because of state-sponsored [Russian] misinformation, that is all the more reason for disclosing that material in open rather than in closed.” Hughes claimed to be seeking the same openness. “One of the difficulties of this inquiry and this case…is that everybody popularly supposes that they know the answer. They may or may not be right, but the purpose of the inquiry is to find out.” Hughes was pretending.

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Paul Craig Roberts. “The gun charge is just a way of getting rid of the real charges..”

The Gun Charge Against Hunter Is the Way of Covering Up the Real Issues (PCR)

Conservatives and Republicans are gleeful that the DOJ has been forced off its sweetheart gun charge deal for Hunter and might now have to bring a felony gun charge. The conservatives and Republicans do not realize that the gun charge is the least serious or important of the charges and that by making the gun charge the issue the real issues, which are threats to Joe Biden, don’t get a day in court. The gun charge is just a way of getting rid of the real charges. Moreover, if Hunter is convicted, something a Democrat jury is unlikely to do, and doesn’t get a suspended sentence, Joe will pardon him.

The conservatives and Republicans don’t understand that they and President Trump, not the Bidens, are the prosecutors’ target. We now have a black quota-hire Fulton County prosecutor adding US Senators and Trump lawyers to her racketeering indictment. The ridiculous indictment is so broadly framed that anyone who expressed doubt about the election is covered by the indictment. When you give power over law to people who see law only as a weapon with which to get enemies, you destroy the rule of law. That’s what the dumbshit white liberals have done.

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“..But the question is whether such requests are evidence of a crime…”

The “Why Not” Culture: The Georgia Final Report Should Worry Us All (Turley)

With the release of the special grand jury final report in Georgia, the nation finally was able to see what foreperson Emily Kohrs last February was giggling about in interviews. Call it the “Why not?” report. Back then, when Kohrs was asked if there were recommended charges, she chuckled and said, “Can you imagine doing this for eight months and not coming out with a whole list of recommended indictments? It’s not a short list. It’s not.’” In addition to nodding at an expected Trump indictment, she added, “There may be some names on that list that you wouldn’t expect.” After all, why not? The final product did not disappoint. The members recommended 39 people for prosecution, including Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and former Sens. Kelly Loeffler (R-Ga.) and David Perdue (R-Ga.).

They also included lawyers who argued for recounts or investigations into alleged election fraud. While the report expressly claims that the Fulton County District Attorney’s office did not create the list, it was the office of Fani Willis that presented the law, the evidence and potential targets to the special grand jury. During that process, these members concluded that politicians voicing support for the former president and his allegations could be criminally charged for doing so. The news that Willis did not indict Graham and others infuriated many on the left. Liberal websites were inundated with comments like “I want all the enablers charged, tried, and given long sentences as traitors to our country” and asking why the list did not include Senators Grassley, Cruz, Lee and “147 current and former members of the House, just to name a few.”

[..] The question is when advocacy or inquiries or negotiations become criminal acts. Willis’s first grand jury clearly believed that senators who called for recounts or Raffensperger’s resignation should go to prison. The comparison between their recommendations and the eventual indictment does not clearly answer how such acts are distinguishable as crimes. The same lack of limiting principle is evident in the new theory being pushed by various experts under the 14th Amendment to bar Trump from ballots on the grounds that he “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” or gave “aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.” Beyond the tendentious claim that the Jan. 6 riot was an actual insurrection, they also maintain that the provision is self-executing, requiring no vote of Congress for secretaries of state to bar Trump from next year’s ballots.

Even though Trump has not been charged, let alone convicted, of insurrection (or even incitement), these advocates believe that he can be removed from the ballot because of his election claims, his inflammatory rhetoric and his delay in calling for supporters to leave the Capitol. This is one of the most dangerous legal theories to arise in decades. This week, Democratic Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes aptly described the claimed right to disqualify as a “radical” measure that would “encompass every elected office in our government — state, local, federal, and so forth.” Indeed, Democrats have called for barring not just Trump but 120 Republicans in Congress from running for office.

As with the Georgia special grand jury, the question is “Why not?” If the standard is “giving aid or comfort” to insurrectionists, then why not throw hundreds of other Republicans who supported the challenge to certification on Jan. 6 off the ballot? And while we’re at it, why not bar every lawyer who helped file claims of voting fraud from ever running for office? They all gave aid or comfort with their actions. By this reasoning, Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) and other Democrats could have been barred from ballots for opposing Trump’s certification in 2016 without any basis, along with leaders such as Hillary Clinton, who continued to call the election “stolen” for years. In 2016, there were also violent riots in Washington opposing Trump’s inauguration, thanks in no small part to such rhetoric. We can then have different candidates of both parties removed from ballots in every state.

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“Mr. Gaetz pushed through an agreement that the process to remove and replace the Speaker of the House could be activated by one vote. Mr. Gaetz reiterated last week that he means business. He’s the one vote.”

The Mills of the Gods (Jim Kunstler)

Do you think that more than half of the US public may be getting a little irked with “Joe Biden’s” lawfare elf, AG Merrick Garland, as he rolls one innocent J-6 protester after another into decades of hard-time for strolling through the US Capitol building — while the special counsels assigned to only a few of the Biden family crimes play hide-the-salami with due process? For all their cheap talk about “our democracy,” it’s a little scary to see what Democratic Party lawyers actually think of the legal system that is supposed to allow a society based on liberty to function fairly. Court filings last week indicate that Special Counsel David Weiss is about to indict Hunter Biden on that gun charge they have used as the joker in a three-card Monte game for going on five years.

Last time, they ran the game before Delaware federal judge Maryellen Noreika, she detected a teeny-weeny, sneaky clause in the plea agreement to a watered-down gun charge that would have granted immunity to Hunter B from any other past wrongdoing, including, of course, the entire alleged Biden family racketeering operation that had the First Son acting as prime broker and bag-man for tens of millions of dollars in bribes from foreign actors in countries less than friendly to US interests, funneled into any number of Biden family shell corporations. Judge Noreika nixed the plea agreement. Now, Mr. Weiss’s crew seems to be saying that the immunity clause is still tied to any plea deal answering a forthcoming September 29 indictment.

The move would appear to be timed to exactly the moment that a House impeachment committee would begin its inquiry into the Biden family’s moneygrubbing activities. In ordinary House committee hearings, DOJ officials like to use the excuse of “an ongoing investigation” to demur from answering questions. Merrick Garland has done this dozens of times. Will they now try to upgrade that to “an ongoing prosecution?” Could that move lead to a constitutional impasse, requiring the Supreme Court to rule? Or does a House impeachment panel enjoy special privileges of inquiry? It also appears that Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FLA) intends to force the issue of opening an impeachment ASAP against “Joe Biden.” In last January’s maneuvering to seat a new Republican House majority, Mr. Gaetz pushed through an agreement that the process to remove and replace the Speaker of the House could be activated by one vote. Mr. Gaetz reiterated last week that he means business. He’s the one vote.

The argument that Republicans should leave hands-off “Joe Biden” so they can run against the feeble old grifter in 2024 is preposterous because there is no way that the “JB” can possibly run for reelection under any circumstances. It’s just another trip being laid on the American public — and one that illustrates how tragic and dangerous is the absence of an honest news media for challenging such insolent gambits. The President can barely totter into a room now without making some embarrassing pratfall or gaffe. He couldn’t possibly survive a debate, especially with all the new records of his crimes unearthed since the last time around in 2020 when he pretended to know nothing about his son’s business dealings.

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“..it is pretty clear who is responsible for 9/11 and why. Many Americans today understand what really happened..”

“It is paradoxical that President Trump is in the dock for questioning an election, while Dick Cheney and the neoconservatives, and the whore media that covered up for them, never faced a single charge.”

9/11 After 22 Years (Paul Craig Roberts)

Today is the 22nd Anniversary of the attack on the World Trade Center and Pentagon known as 9/11. A generation of 22-year olds has grown up after 9/11, and the event probably means nothing to them. They learn that it was an attack on America like the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, and 9/11 disappears into history. It is unlikely that anyone under 40 is much concerned with 9/11. A 40-year old today would have been 18 in 2001 and would likely dismiss 9/11 concerns as conspiracy theory. Today’s youth are more likely to be marching in support of sexual perversion than wondering about the source and purpose of the 9/11 attack.

Over the years I have reported the mounting evidence provided by scientists and by architect Richard Gage’s Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth until the organization he created removed him at the request of the government, effectively destroying the organization. But for me the proof that 9/11 was an inside job has always been that no one in government and security agencies was ever held accountable for the worst humiliation ever inflicted on an alleged “superpower.” Instead, it took a year before the White House even agreed to an official coverup with the 9/11 Commission, another in the long line of commissions like the Warren Commission that validates the official story. If a few young Saudi Arabians had actually defeated the entire national security apparatus of the United States, the White House would have been screaming, and heads would have rolled.

The neoconservatives had just called for a “new Pearl Harbor” so they could launch their wars of destruction of Israel’s enemies in the Middle East. They immediately blamed 9/11 on “Muslim terrorists” and began their invasions that halted only when Russia blocked the neoconservatives’ overthrow of Syria. So it is pretty clear who is responsible for 9/11 and why. Many Americans today understand what really happened, but the government will never admit it. It takes decades for the truth to come out, and by then everyone affected by the event is dead, and the event becomes ancient history. It is paradoxical that President Trump is in the dock for questioning an election, while Dick Cheney and the neoconservatives, and the whore media that covered up for them, never faced a single charge.

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    Claude Monet O Rio (The River) 1881   • Zelensky ‘Senses’ Weakening Western Support (RT) • Zelensky Threatens To Terrorize Europe (MoA) • Ukraini
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle September 12 2023]

    #142892
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Claude Monet O Rio (The River) 1881

    What a mess…
    I find nothing to admire re-Claude Monet O Rio (The River) 1881
    …and so it goes……….

    #142893
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    9/11 – my take

    In 1996 there was a movie called ‘The Long Kiss Goodnight’. The film revolves around a CIA plot to create a ‘terrorist’ incident killing thousands which would then be blamed on Islamic terrorists. They referred to it as a ‘fundraiser’, a way to generate increased funding for the CIA.

    9/11 seems like the same idea but was contracted out.

    What makes me suspicious is that when four aircraft were hijacked at the same time there was so little reaction. No fighters were scrambled to shadow the aircraft.

    When a hijacked aircraft hits a high profile target like the twin towers then it is obviously deliberate. The authorities had an hour to intercept the second aircraft using fighters, but they didn’t bother. The pentagon aircraft was even later but still was not intercepted. The fourth failed to reach its target [Whitehouse?] probably due to action by the passengers, not by interception.

    It is this inaction which makes me suspicious. Certainly it provided an excuse for punitive wars in the middle east and the setting up of a police state in the US. Very convenient.

    [New York is full of helicopters, including Chinooks. I do not know why they were not used to ferry people off the roof in a kind of Dunkirk action]

    #142895
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Taibbi: A Day That Never Ended: America thought it left the War on Terror behind, but the emergency never stopped expanding…”

    We all said that at the time. And just like Tech, Interest Rates, Housing, Covid, and Ukraine, we were all shouted down as f-ing idiots who should be rounded up and put in camps as un-American. It’s beyond me how something so obvious just goes on and on. I mean, it was GEORGE BUSH for God’s sake. Clue #1??? and although the Left was on it then, where were the Anti-war marches etc? Listless, dwindled, co-opted, and now zero. Full enthusiastic support. PRO-war marches, while the Right, who doesn’t march, has instead boycotted their lifelong career choices of signing up for service, a far larger, more serious blow than “signaling”.

    “[Americans] Frustrated to Discover Virtue Way Harder than Virtue Signaling” –BBee

    Germany’s Baerbock Humiliated In Dressing Down By Ukraine Foreign Minister
    So here we have a US protectorate (Germany) being publicly mocked by a US proxy (Ukraine)…

    While the U.S. is itself a Proxy of Davos and the WEF…

    “the Founders did not envision impeaching a first-term president the moment he lost his House majority. Nor did they imagine impeaching a president twice. And they certainly did not anticipate trying an ex-president in the Senate as a private citizen.

    I’ll betcha they DID think of it. A lot. Totally, totally expected it immediately. Except for that third part, you can’t think of everything and leave it to others to figure out. They knew so well that it was the Founders THEMSELVES, Adams and Jefferson who did more than think this, they DID this. Calling Adams a Hermaphrodite, and Jefferson a traitor-puppet of the French. Adams then arrested anyone who disagreed with him. That’s just public. Legally and politically the acts were equally bizarre, partisan, and generally illegal.

    Demonstrating sides, NM now had PRO-gun rallies in defiance of the Governor’s patently illegal – and illogical – order. “”One apparent anti-gun protester was yelled at, but then invited by the speaker to say his piece on the stage,” he continued. “The crowd yelled at him for wearing a mask and applauded him when he took it off,” he noted.”

    So the Right identified the hecklers and harassers. Then asked them to speak freely and make their case. Huh. Yup, sounds evil and violent to me! Lock ’em up!

    Governor’s statement that Rights exists except “Any time I feel like it.”
    “Watch the most evil & tyrannical 60 seconds you’ve ever heard from a politician:”

    Hahahaaha! Not hardly. We hear things like this every day and have for decades. IF ONLY this were slightly unexpected or new.

    “Dems Accidentally Reveal Their Plan to Destroy the Constitution Ahead of Schedule” –BBee

    “Are Emergency Powers A Test To See What Americans Will Put Up With?

    Sort of, but the people doing it actually believe it. It’s their handlers who are running the experiments most politicos are unaware they’re the rats in the Alien Overlords Ant Farm Experiment. Huxley style. Mostly because they’re too stupid to use a spoon.

    “US Confirms It Seized Nearly 1 Million Barrels of Iranian Oil Allegedly En Route to China

    We are the core pirates on the high seas. Again. So our sovereignty extends planetwide? Throughout all international waters, and enforceable on all 200 nations? Probably INSIDE their borders! If they refuse to fly the rainbow flag, we’ll send FBI SWAT teams in to shoot them. In North Korea n’ stuff. Yup!

    Actually, does this mean they’re running out of money again and needed a quick influx of $100M to fund some CIA/MI6 op somewhere.

    “Passport Bros: Feminists Are Outraged At Men Going Overseas To Find Traditional Wives
    The core question is – Why do they care?

    This was interesting, and that’s the exact question.

    Why do they care? BECAUSE YOU’RE REQUIRED TO LOVE ME. By law. I will MAKE you love me, BY FORCE, or else. That’s what love is! This is a left position on gay matters, but also any other behavior the genpop are reluctant to accept. In this case, it’s reached over as far as hetero men and women, and into genpop of “feminists” who are centrists and not fringe. They feel rejected in general, and that someone is challenging their values on hating men, hating children, providing nothing, and having no loyalty at all. It creates self-examination that those values are “less”, they don’t work, and therefore the MESSENGERS must be attacked – I mean in addition to the general attacks on all men daily – and not have an open discussion about the merits of each argument. Why do I say that?

    Its the same as the Rowling non-stop slander-bombs for YEARS now, as the actual, literal, logical positions of trans and feminists are completely incompatible, which is named as “Terf”. EVEN AS girls are raped in school bathrooms for not being protected and women’s sports collapse.

    So clearly they’re lesser people than NRA gun extremists, because those guys WILL allow open discussion with tolerance and respect.

    Anyway, the key is, no matter what happens, we must never look at it. We must never discuss it. My ego is very, very fragile as it’s made up ENTIRELY of incompatible beliefs, and any time somebody points that out, they conflict and it’s scary, uncomfortable, embarrassing, grating, or even painful for me. THE WORLD MUST REVOLVE AROUND ME. And MY self-created injuries. OR ELSE, mister. We’ll have you arrested, de-banked, unemployed, banned. Now DO WHAT YOU’RE TOLD. And make me a sammich, your organ-pendulant neanderthal.

    It’s quite interesting. At this point my only question is how far they can take it. Because, knowing what’s going on, it doesn’t bother me at all. Keep going. I’ve got popcorn.

    “Ukraine’s counteroffensive is stalling. The West must prepare for ..

    That’s the UK Telegraph. As unattributed, to find it I found this:

    “Putin is terrified of Ukraine’s counteroffensive – The Telegraph –28 May 2023

    Shakin’ in his boots, I’m sure. You know – when you’re standing behind thousands of hypersonic missiles and thousands of nukes that can win the war in 10 minutes. W. T. F. Is anybody talking about? Have they lost all leave of the senses, like Every Day? How DO these guys get their pants on in the morning?

    WTC Structure.

    Yes, carefully hidden is THE MOST OBVIOUS. That is thousands and thousands of highly-public pics of it being built. Here’s one:
    frame
    https://media.nj.com/ledgerupdates_impact/photo/2011/09/sept-11-twin-towers-construction-top-floorjpg-7e223b17d0be7487.jpg

    That’s the steel, 360’ around. BUT THAT’S NOT THE STRONG PART. That’s just to keep 747s off – an ACTUAL design parameter from day one. The CORE is also made of nothing but concrete pillars, ground to roof:
    CoreUnderstanding
    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9uoAAOSw3GVbT8FZ/s-l400.jpg

    So it’s a ring-within-a-ring construction. If anything, only the outer shell could slide off into the street in big chunks, leaving most of the building intact. But I don’t like to mention it, because in all my years no American has ever responded to logic except ACTUAL engineers, who are very few. So what’s the point?

    It’s all lies and jest. A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

    ““A judge in Pennsylvania has ruled that former President Trump has ‘presidential immunity’ and cannot be sued over statements he made about 2020 election fraud.”

    That’s a dangerous argument. I guess they’ll have to hash it out in court.

    And we have the weird situation where the “statements” made WERE while he was President. That means impeachment. But he’s not President now, which means no impeachment. So we just stack up a fat file to throw at him the minute he retires? Or is everything ever done now only impeachable and he’s never a private citizen subject to ordinary process again? Pick one? Hahahahaaha! Both! Neither! Whatever I choose!!!!

    “Zelensky ‘Senses’ Weakening Western Support (RT)

    He’s psychic now too! Quick, call Delphi!

    No, Blinken spent 2 days with him and came home and said, “The negotiations must reflect the Ukrainian Position”. That is, the ACTUAL position, NOW. Where Ukraine lost half their GDP and all Donbass. Very clever statement on ABC there, very natural, as no doubt like 100% of all media, they agreed on the questions to be practiced beforehand, as ABC, NBC, BBC, are the governments’ paid press department. As Reuters and WaPo demonstrated.

    “Zelensky Threatens To Terrorize Europe (MoA)

    Yes, but it’s not Ze. He’s a puppet. Nor is it Kolomoisky, he’s part of a Mafia collective. The Mafia Kolomoisky is part of is the one who ordered Europe to shoot themselves in the head at their command ‘cause they felt like having a gay Slavic Disneyland on coke in the old country. …They said so themselves, and I think there was a new quote on it yesterday. So if they, all Europe, DON’T shoot ALL of themselves in the head for el Capo, then they will, of course, and as a matter of respect, HAVE to run non-stop organized crime and terrorism on all Europe. But FROM who, TO who? The Ukrainian People, as soldiers of the Ukrainian Mafia, who are the action arm of the already-existing mafia, just as the IRA was the action arm of the existing Sinn Fein.

    And yes they will. But so what? GFY. You’re weak and broke. What am I supposed to do, give in to every two-bit thug who tries to shake me down? That’s how we get mafias in the first place. Anyway, Ze is delivering the message of “leverage’ to all Europe on this. “Nice continent you got here…”

    “• EU Believes Ukraine Is ‘A Very Corrupt Country’ – Politico (RT)

    That’s why we give them ‘infinity’ money, with ‘zero’ oversight. That’s just common sense! …Or demonstration that no reasonable person would ever do that if it weren’t a mafia shakedown? Where people get shot or have accidents like Strauss-Kahn?

    (pics again)

    #142896
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “CNN host Jake Tapper argued on Sunday that Musk had “effectively sabotaged” an American ally, and he asked US Secretary of State Antony Blinken whether the “capricious billionaire” should therefore face “repercussions.” Blinken declined”

    What the what. Was Musk ORDERED by Congress and the State Dept to do this? Uhhh, nope, I don’t think so! So he’s supposed to VOLUNTARILY get involved in military conflicts and cause nuclear wars as a private citizen, without any cooperation or oversight, just ‘cause?? Yup. Isn’t that everything the “Logan Act” x 1,000 was about, as probably illegal as it is? Wouldn’t MUSK be the sole man, declaring open war on a foreign nation on behalf of the United States, all its people, and all its official government? Yup. Doesn’t bother them a bit. Not a glimmer of principle or hypocrisy goes off, no logical dissonance at all. “But I WANT an oompa-loompa!!!” Tapper WANTS it, you see. That’s all you need to know.

    Rocket Racoon: Question. What if I see something that I want to take, and it belongs to someone else?
    Rhomann Dey: You will be arrested.
    Rocket: But what if I want it more than the person who has it?
    Rhomann Dey: It’s still illegal.
    Rocket: That doesn’t follow. No, I want it more, sir. Do you understand? What are you laughing at?

    This mafia WANTS a gay night club, coke-fueled, human trafficking Disneyland-with-nukes in Europe. They want it MORE, sir. That’s all you need to know. Now chop-chop coolie.

    Me
    https://cdn.quotesgram.com/small/35/89/675556754-Rocket-Raccoon–121478.jpg

    ““How do we take the European Commission’s ban on traveling by personal car or with smart phones? … Goods that are classified as prohibited – even shampoo and toilet paper – should be confiscated,”

    Like drone attacks, this does nothing except increase Russia’s resolve and solidarity. …Exactly what we need here, so I can only pray they do it to us next. Please PLEASE sanction us, so our GDP can double. PLEASE.

    “• Lies And Pretence In New London Novichok Hearing (Helmer)

    That’s great. They want to keep the secrecy of the world’s dumbest story? Make them pay. Because that person actually DID die (as far as I know) and that’s bulls–t. I can’t bring down the government which would be my first choice, but I can draw attention and make it too expensive to continue.

    “The Gun Charge Against Hunter Is the Way of Covering Up the Real Issues (PCR)

    Do they not notice that a Federal gun charge is NOT the way to make all your previous crimes go away for the rest of us? That may look clever where you are, but overall, it’s the world’s fastest way to demonstrate a nation of total lawlessness to the rest of us. As “Gun Charge”, even to the other 100 million in Blue.

    “• The “Why Not” Culture: The Georgia Final Report Should Worry Us All (Turley)

    This demonstrates so much. First, a Grand Jury has no rules whatsoever and can indict a ham sandwich. This demonstrates it. Maybe that should be fixed. Apparently a Grand Jury can indict all 300 million Americans in one go if it wants to, there’s no limit on numbers. Then it’s the DA – as there are no rules – who runs it all, showing evidence that doesn’t have to be real, and withholding evidence that is. So it’s a DA puppet theatre.

    Then the DA apparently can get indictments for all 300 million Americans, then sort through and discard all the people she likes? Who committed the same crimes according to her? If they’re “on my team” like Graham is.

    BRINGING the case is itself a punishment – I don’t think anyone’s found a solution to that – for so many reasons, but the TOTAL lack of a speedy trial and the TOTAL lack of good faith from the DAs, Judges, State, Police, CSI, and evidence is only compounded by the TOTAL abdication of giving a s—t by all juries. So it’s not like you can walk in innocent and have a pretty strong sense innocent will help you in the slightest.

    That means only the RICH go free. Rich AND connected, as Trump is very rich. And the poor – or any black man under Biden, like the “Blacks for Trump” foreman – gets jailed. Or Torrio, WORKING FOR THE FBI and still jailed.

    So a presume EVERY Grand Jury from now on will indict EVERY member of the opposing party, EVERY time, in Carolina, Mississippi, Missouri…why not? That’s what we do now, right? It’s all tippy-toppy legal. You haul me in to indict Cleetus for shoplifting (an impossibility, I know) and I’ll ALSO indict Newsome, McConnell, Milley, Putin, Bongo, heck, we’ll indict Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Hoffa, and Jimmy-da-Greek. Let’s work our way down the phone book. Let’s pre-indict the DA and the Judge!

    Imagination run wild!

    “Do you think that more than half of the US public may be getting a little irked with “Joe Biden’s” lawfare elf, AG Merrick Garland,”

    Nope. No one cares at all. Even if it happened to their spouse or children, they’re beyond caring. It could happen to THEM and they wouldn’t care, just go through the motions, because it has, and they did. Heck, most of the time it’s the spouse or children who DID it to them, look at Covid, or any divorce case.

    #142897
    Dr. D
    Participant

    So P.S. why are all immigrants kicking your -ss right now? Because this. You have no love, no honor, no family, and they do.

    You notice the Amish are richer than ever and have 50 disadvantages to overcome, but they are merely somewhat cohesive and don’t backstab each other. That’s it. Wow, magic! But that’s too much for Americans to handle. They see it decade after decade and STILL refuse to stop attacking and back stabbing each other. Not that “other” guy down the street, a different ethnicity like the media claims, no. YOUR OWN FAMILY. Your own town. Your own coworkers. Your own team, as in a charity, church, or organization.

    Your own children. To have ANY love and honor of a normal human being, is just too far, too much, too extreme for them. They prefer to be unhappy and poor, fight it to the DEATH!

    “I want my poverty of body and mind, and I want it now!”

    WentWorth
    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2-DxuZjqqp0/maxresdefault.jpg

    So who’s stupid, who’s at fault, and what do you want me to do about it? I guess you deserve to lose, fail, and be overrun. If not, wouldn’t you behave, even slightly normally? A tiny amount like the human beings you are? Nope. Any Cambodian or Jamaican immigrant can overrun you in a few short years while you sit on the couch and whine. White and Black trash alike. Here’s a thought: HELP each other. Then you’re helping yourself.

    I. Would Rather. Die.

    #142898
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Nazilensky: He’s directly threatening Europe now

    There are plenty of Darya Dugina like targets in Euroturdistan to assassinate.

    With miles of piles of spineless girlie-men and girlie-women filling the ‘leadership positions’ of the Rump Butthurt Subcontinent©, Ukronaziland can terrorize the whole joint untouched because the Empire of Lies Gangster Nation has got Nazilensky back.

    Euroturdistan can be extorted ad infinitum by Ukronazis thugs for decades and the Sheeple there will just bend over and ask for more Daddy, more.

    Eurotards are so completely brainwashed that when Ukronazis blowup let’s say a daycare center, the Euroturd Media Whores will tell the Euro-Sheeple it was the Russians fault and they will heartily believe them.


    Winter is Coming

    It’s going to wipe that Shit-eating Grin (SEG) off a lot of Eurotard faces.

    .

    #142899
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    “..78% of Ukrainian adults see Zelensky as “directly responsible” for Kiev’s corruption problem..”

    This does not make sense!

    He has only been around for a few years and the corruption has been around for a LOT longer. Corruption seems to be a way of life in Ukraine. If they can get away with it then they do it. The influx from the West has certainly supercharged it. Wherever corruption is possible then it will happen.

    What is sad is that with Ukraine’s resources the population should be relatively well off, but any wealth has been sucked up.

    Ukrainians who end in Russian territory may be lucky enough to escape this culture of plunder.

    #142900
    Oroboros
    Participant

    EU Believes Ukraine Is ‘A Very Corrupt Country’

    I thought this was a Babylon Bee headline

    Hahahahahaha

    No, it’s from ‘real’ journalists!

    #142901
    WES
    Participant

    Ukraine Laundromat: Follow the money!

    So Mr. Z and his gang of Nazis are threatening the hand that keeps them in the style they have become accustomed to!

    Why?

    The flow of money into their Laundromat is going to be reduced!

    Didn’t we just witness Russia’s Wagoner’s CEO go through a money withdrawal episode recently? It didn’t end well.

    #142902
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Hey, 9/11 (or 11/9 in most of the rest of the world) just came and went and I never noticed. Neither did the media in Oz. None that I saw, at least.

    It really has become modern history, the world lurches on, and the processes launched on that day continue to work themselves through.

    #142903
    Dora
    Participant

    Kim Iverson. 9-11.

    #142904
    AsIfTruth
    Participant

    @Dr. John Day,

    Yesterday you mentioned the art exhibits in the twin towers being brazenly demonic or some such in retrospect. I wonder if you could link me to photos of this “art?” In my experience, this is how the Enemy generally operates, brazenly in your face…tickled a nerve when I read that and sparked my curiosity.

    @everyone,

    Another thing on my mind for sometime…for those living in the empire, how do you rectify your beliefs about the empire and simultaneously pay them tribute with your tax dollars? Seems hypocritical…

    #142905
    zerosum
    Participant

    I am happy because I don’t believe everything that I read.

    #142906
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The Five Stages of Collapse, which was observed discerned and written by Dmitry Orlov in 2008 is more presciently relevant than ever. I bet that your take on it has matured and modified over the past 15 years.

    Good time for a re-read, so here’s a shorthand version (well under 10 minute read) also by Orlov): https://www.resilience.org/stories/2008-02-26/five-stages-collapse/

    #142907
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I remember pulling up a news reel of one of the tower impacts out of curiosity. Advancing frame by frame as well as at various speeds.

    The hollow aluminum plane was shown passing through the fully boxed close-set pillars made of inches thick tank armor with zero crumpling, zero SLOWING. A fully intact plane-shape passing steadily through the wall of the building as if it was a ghost or the building was made of fog.

    Made me nostalgic for Nintendo Star Fox.

    #142908
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Another thing on my mind for sometime…for those living in the empire, how do you rectify your beliefs about the empire and simultaneously pay them tribute with your tax dollars? Seems hypocritical…

    By realizing on the one hand that they actually run on printed money and drug/human trafficking not your dollar, and on the other what they will do if you do not jump through the hoops.

    As clearly evidenced by all the cities that have completely destroyed their own commerce – no tax revenue. This apparently does not matter.

    As clearly evidenced by the corporations destroying their own brands, driving away their customers. No revenue, no problem.

    Lol the latest leak from CBS – tied in with flops such as Star Trek STD- their board is split in half and in bitter arguments over their business plan. Half want to kick out awful incompetent woke writers and directors to fix their product, so they can sell it. The other half wants to function on ESG loans. Like that’s how they want to run the business.

    Your dollars are no longer needed nor even particularly important one way or the other

    #142909
    Red
    Participant

    TOXIC BY DESIGN CV-19 injections aka mRNA Nanoparticle Bioweapons are working exactly as intended.

    https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/all-by-design-covid-mrna-shots-have

    #142910
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Updated COVID vaccines: FDA announces emergency approval and authorization
    FDA recommends the new shot for anyone 6 months and older, depending on previous vaccines

    https://www.foxnews.com/health/updated-covid-vaccines-fda-announces-emergency-approval-authorization

    wtf. An NEW emergency authorization?!!?

    Isn’t emergency authorization only possible when there are no alternatives? The very reason FOR authorization – it is an emergency and we don’t have anything viable and APPROVED we could try?

    Didn’t the authorities JUST admit that ivermectin is ACTUALLY effective?

    Aren’t more and more studies being released showing the injection which does not vaccinate made people catch and spread Covid19 MORE?

    What’s the emergency and how is this NEW unapproved drug the only available thing we can try at this point? When trying NOTHING leaves you less likely to catch and spread?

    …when actually catching the disease has less % likelihood of adverse effects than the injection? Less % likelihood of adverse effects than many historically used vaccines? Thus, with the current covid being as safe as many previously approved vaccines and verified as super-effective, it ought to be the #1 vaccination method?

    wtf

    #142911
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    “During the Great Depression…” the unemployment was extreme — I wonder how average salary was computed?
    I think it would be really interesting to get the figures on Sep 1, 1929, right before the stock market crash.

    #142912
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    People tend to have a hard time imagining (mentally modelling for the purpose of then using the model in making predictions about future actions and consequences) other people and things that are more evil and stupid than the evil stupidity that they have experienced or suspected in themselves.

    Since the average person is only averagely dumb and mean that’s about as bad as they can imagine anyone else to be. For this reason they are sitting ducks for professionals who make a living from the practice of buying and selling evil and insanity.

    Since the world is a marketplace of good and evil in which everything is exchangeable (buy, sell or swap) with any and every other thing when the price is right, these professionals seldom lack for customers and their line of trade is fabulously lucrative. Example: I will be an ally for you in business if you tell a lie for me in court. This will enable me to continue betraying the trust placed in me by my wife and secure loyalty from my girl friend, who I am lying to about leaving my wife to marry her.

    There simply are no upper limits to honor nor lower limits to perfidy. It is ALL for sale, so check price tags carefully before purchase or sale, and if you can’t actually imagine that a human would sell the lives of all humanity then you’re simply not that evil or adept at abstract reasoning. All you need to know at this point is that there ARE such people, they are running the world at the moment, and one can only imagine what they’re being offered for the deal.

    Well, you’re not really limited to ONLY your imagination. You could also read a little history to help fill in the gaps ……. but you won’t find it very encouraging. In fact, the more one studies and cross checks the record the more plausible the wildest of imaginings become. Well, imagine that!

    #142913
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    All of the comments here regarding 9/11 remind me of why I peruse this site daily. It is refreshing to see all of the questions and problems regarding 9/11 brought up. There are some that I hadn’t before considered. Back in 2001 I saw the TV footage of the buildings falling, and even without specialized knowledge of how such towers are created,
    I thought it was fishy that they had fallen in just the same manner as I had seen in old reels of buildings being formally demolished. I thought to myself: okay, I’m not an expert, I’ll see what comes of this. So I read an article months later in Time or Newsweek (don’t recall which) that spoke of how the fire caused the buildings to collapse, and I thought: that doesn’t really sound right, it doesn’t explain what I *saw*. I read stuff on the internet, naysayers who poked holes in the official narrative, talking about thermite residue, the temperature at which jet fuel burns and the temperature required to melt steel. I read about shady things — stuff going on in places destroyed on 9/11 that very important people may have wanted to halt, people who presciently decided to go to work late that day. I saw how 9/11 was used as pretext for war and the Patriot Act. Nothing clear coalesced — I still don’t know exactly who was responsible for 9/11. But I *know* that the 9/11 “official narrative” is more rotten than a 8-week old, never-been-refrigerated egg with a crack in the shell. (And if you are curious just how rotten that is…try it deliberately some time.)

    #142914
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @ AsIfTruth
    how do you rectify your beliefs about the empire and simultaneously pay them tribute with your tax dollars
    I have paid nothing in federal income tax for years because I have kids to support and my income is well below the federal poverty limit. Of course, I pay into social security and Medicare. It isn’t like I have much choice. I understand the arguments against the federal individual income tax. I believe that they have merit. The question begins to be: am I willing to risk problems with the IRS by not paying the federal income tax that is due? That is an uncomfortable question — and one that I have not had to face for many years. (When I was last an employee, I didn’t understand the issues the way that I do now.). I wish that there were a way to assign taxes to what I want them to cover — things like roads, the borders, programs to help all sorts of regular people, veterans benefits, etc. And I think that one way to improve the situation would be for the federal government to get out of the business of programs to help people out, and for those programs to be the domain of states, counties, and cities — with the local governments collecting the taxes required for such programs, not the feds. (Yes, there will still be corruption with local programs, but at least the corruption will be closer to home, and it is easier to connect the dots to uncover the corruption.)

    I think that the easy answer to the question is inherent in the question itself — calling “taxes” “tribute.” Historically, folks were not thrilled to be paying tribute, but did so anyhow because they didn’t want to face the adverse consequences of not paying it.

    #142915
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @phoenixvoice

    I know exactly how rotten that is. It happened when a sailor dropped such an egg onto the grill in a crowded galley at breakfast time. So bad we almost abandoned ship (and we abandoned the galley instantly, en masse).

    Additionally, and not just ONE “against-all-odds” collapse into it’s own footprint, but THREE such miracles in a row within minutes of each other and all at just the right political moment to pass the Homeland Security Act (cancelling the US Constitution, and facing certain rejection by the citizenry) that had just been presciently completed in written form mere weeks before.

    #142916
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Phoenix: strangely unemployment in the Depression was less than now and has been for years, even during the recovery. It peaked at 21% if I remember. Our “Working age” population stats show us far beyond that, and Shadow Stats can show active unemployment at least that high. Since ‘08, and close to that many times since ‘01.

    That’s what printing money and handing out Sec 8 with no oversight gets you. All the population isn’t working. No one can even tell.

    To me, those numbers are a bit misplaced. To me it’s only “how many are rowing?” and doing work vs “how many are riding?” and how much work needs to be done. How much? Well the entire country is collapsing from coast to coast. All the Mississippi bridges, even on major highways, all the dams, all the railroads, all the ports, all the grids, all the buildings, but even in what should be the protected areas: for instance, all of NY City and their arterial Transit system. All the airports in signature places, even tourist. All the water systems. All the barns, all the elevators, all the factories. Most houses outside of 12 cities.

    No one’s working, so nothing is fixed. QED. That’s obvious. Your money means nothing to me. Just like with shells.

    I grew up talking to nobody but Depression people. Sounded pretty good to me. I could only DREAM of things being as good as then.

    Because the Docktor is of very mediocre intelligence I saw nothing wrong with 911, I just didn’t care because more people die every day of…everything. But highways is an example. So my reaction was “So? Do you not know how BIG this country is? 2,000 isn’t a pinprick, a rounding error. Oooooh, they knocked down ONE BUILDING! Wot a joke! Ain’t nobody gonna care about that”

    It didn’t come to my attention until grumpy, irritating jerkwads wouldn’t shut up about it, so I was like, “FINE. I will go LOOK and PROVE it to you. With data and attribution.” Idiots. Same thing that saved me in Covid. …And ran into the famous “PentaLawn”, the lawn that is immune to plane crashes. Rinses off like the Nanotex for lawns. A hole the size of a trash can that a 747 ran into. Huh.

    You can just say “I don’t know what happened here, but the official story is officially bulls—t.” That’s ALL I need to know when Dick Cheney and the Republicans are in charge. Can we start with that and no go down any rabbit holes? Like 50 totally unprecedented, impossible things happened in only 3 hours of one day. Did you think America is “Edge of Tomorrow” or something? Cause this is “Twilight Zone.” No one noticed. Point it out to them and they’ll run a plane into YOU. Or that Thanksgiving serving spoon, whatever is handy.

    Must. Defend. Cheney. — Must. Protect. Billionaires. With. Fist of Death.

    #142917
    Red
    Participant

    Ahh the IMF at work:

    Since Sri Lanka defaulted on its debt we have been colonized again. This time by the IMF, with policy run out of the American Embassy with Indians as enforcers. Same colonial shit, different capitalist day. This is marketed as ‘stabilization’ but it’s really just the rich standing on the backs of the poor and calling it a table. All that is happening is what happens to any poor family when the loan sharks bite. Productive assets are being sold off and the children are going hungry. They say this is for our future but what is a future without children? We are sacrificing a generation for the greed of few. What an abomination.

    Thieves And Robbers
    What we have in Sri Lanka is the people responsible for crashing the economy — indeed, those who profited from it — deciding how to ‘fix’ it. And they use inscrutable economic language to explain why policies the people hate must be imposed. As Leo Tolstoy said over a century ago:

    https://indi.ca/the-debt-slavery-of-a-nation/

    #142918
    Red
    Participant

    Looking at the markets today I see Brent crude at 92USD a barrel and the markets are steady. Really? I’d say that the separation of the financial world from the real world has been completed. There is no sign of the reality on the ground to what happens on Wall Street or London or anywhere else. The separation is complete and now; fire the boosters to infinity and beyond. No need to worry about those left behind they were always just dead weight anyway, now soon to be just dead.

    #142919
    Red
    Participant

    Lasers? Check out the first six minutes of this:

    Kids these days!

    #142920
    Red
    Participant
    #142921
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Harvested 11 point moose on Sep 11
    Busy butchering

    #142922
    jb-hb
    Participant

    The laser stuff is interesting – btw tazers that pass an electric current down a laser have been around for awhile.

    My thought is that wouldn’t a laser require quite a LOT of power to do the stuff mentioned? The tales of the trees with the most water in them catching fire in the trunk but not in the branches is weird.

    My scifi geek brain thinks disruptors. Instead of having to pump out a ton of power commensurate to the damage inflicted, a disruptor would be applying just enough power to affect the targeted matter in such a way that IT provides the energy through some sort of induced reaction.

    #142923
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Harvested 11 point moose on Sep 11

    Where’s our cut?

    .

    #142924
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The only place in the world I get to see NeoConJobs (even if it’s just their proxy on the world stage) having their ever loving phucking teeth kicked in on a regular basis.

    Russian Marines Destroy Packed Clown Car Full of Ukronazis

    #142925
    Oroboros
    Participant

    This Pentagon 9/11 Report Only Aired Once Then Was Memory-holed Forever For Obvious Reasons

    But DUH’merica bought it. No plane wreckage anywhere

    I’ve personally been on the site of large plane crashes. There is recognizable plane debris EVERYWHERE you look. And body parts. It’s a spectacular mess but you know it was a plane crash.

    The Pentagon 9/11 site had none but the Sheeple swallowed the Bullshite.

    #142926
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Autonomous Cabs In San Franshithole Are Given Welcome Greeting

    San Franshithole is an interesting choice to test self driving vehicles.

    I guess the San Franshithole Sheeple their have proven themselves to be utterly incapable of any type of critical thought processes so let her rip,

    From the Californicate classic album

    Bombs Away Dream Babies!

    #142927
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    re. Red’s comment

    DEW (directed energy weapons) happening around the world

    fires/floods/…

    Got to go back to work

    go to
    https://odysee.com/

    search for
    Things Are

    Select video
    Things Are About To Go To The Next Level

    It gets more interesting after the kid

    #142928
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Another thing on my mind for sometime…for those living in the empire, how do you rectify your beliefs about the empire and simultaneously pay them tribute with your tax dollars? Seems hypocritical…

    My wife & I ran a business for 19 years that generated 300-400k yearly for us, which if we had been so inclined could have grown it 5-10x, but we didn’t want to get into hiring “employees” & deal with the .GOV inserted into our daily life…

    In 2015 our business changed, with many options for us to continue/expand operations, but we were nauseated by the level of taxation without representation that we had been “forced” to pay tribute into.

    Specifically, as a Son of Liberty decedent, if the The People hadn’t abandoned The American Experiment, I (we) no doubt would have endeavored to continue & grow our business to “build” & “contribute” to our community, state & country…

    But instead, as we became people without a “country”, once we achieved enough squirreled away for posterity, we decided to Opt Out, nka Quiet Quitting ~ I guess we were ahead of the curve 😐

    What has unfolded within Western Civ power structures over the last 100+ years is only possible with a compliant gen pop, who are more concerned with & committed to Transactional Relationships than Spiritual Sanity

    You ain’t seen nuthin’ yet!, as the carrot/stick, dog & pony, bread & circuses “illusions” are being withdrawn & a new & improved final solution is being deployed.

    The People had a chance to self-correct (elections have consequences), but all The Truth was discarded for a chicken-in-every-pot, no child left behind, The Great Society et al. that *never* was in the interest of “humanity” ~ In truth, all of these schemes were created by elite “think tanks” (or worse) to stave off paranoia of a Future Shock(s), that in the end “they” made worse with existential implications, not only for the useless eating deplorables, but for The Elite themselves…

    Taibbi: A Day That Never Ended: America thought it left the War on Terror behind, but the emergency never stopped expanding…

    Oh Matt, did everything I told you about FDR et al. & “permanent” emergency powers 10+ years ago go right over your head?

    #142929
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Rabotino Disaster Continues – Huge Destruction of Ukronazi Equipment

    The Empire of Lies Gangster NAtionand their Buttboy Media Whores failed to mention that the Ukronazi ‘offensive’ has a 90% causality rate for Nazilensky’s storm troopers.

    90% destroyed, soldiers and equipment.

    Some call Rabotino a ‘meatgrinder’

    It’s actually a Garbage Disposal

    Every single vehicle in this offensive column is burning, every single one.

    None survived

    #142930
    zerosum
    Participant

    Deepfake – life is not easy
    My grandson, on his “youth hunt”, 01 Sept.23 got a 2 pointer and began his journey of facing the reality/truth of what it takes to put a steak on his plate.
    (He already on his journey, by gardening, the steps required to put potatoes on his plate.)
    ———

    #142931
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    @Red

    Lovely, self-glorifying video that thecrowhouse fellow superciliously created, although the contradictions in meaning & conclusions made his + others efforts to find The Truth fatuously unintelligible 🙄

    First he labels “The One Power” as using country labels like America, EU, China et al. as pawns to pu$h The Agenda/Narrative forward, then he blames 9-11 on “Da Joos” 🙄 🙄

    I suppose his protracted gabfest might titillate those seeking distraction/diversion from The Harsh Truths roiling across the landscape, but I’ve been subjected to this type of pretentious dribble for 25+ years, noticing that less than 1% of The Truthers able/willing to address the underlying, empowerment mechanisms that were *once* well within The People’s grasp to withdraw/curtail (elections have consequences)…

    I. Am. Not. Entertained.

    Got Solutions?

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