Oct 102023
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Hamas’ Attack on Israel Is Puzzling (Paul Craig Roberts)
Will The Battle Of Gaza Strip Be Israel’s Iwo Jima? (Larry Johnson)
Race War Against The Palestinians Turns Into War Of The Worlds (Helmer)
Now We Have Your Attention (Craig Murray)
White House Hopes To Include Ukraine In Israel Aid (RT)
Military Operation ‘Will Take A Long Time’ – Israel (RT)
Moscow Blasts US Approach To Israel-Palestine Violence (RT)
US Has Enough Weapons For Israel, Ukraine And More – Pentagon (RT)
Hamas Using Weapons Given To Ukraine – Medvedev (RT)
Russia Throws Down the Nuclear Gauntlet (Scott Ritter)
RFK Jr Announces Independent Run for President (Sp.)
BIden Questioned In Classified Documents Probe (RT)
Investigations are Exposing the Bidens’ Influence-Peddling Dynasty (Turley)
Here We Go Loop-de-Loop (Jim Kunstler)



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“In the US no one was held accountable for the security failures on September 11, which should have told us a lot. Not knowing, we can but speculate. We have a motive. Israel can now steal the rest of Palestine.”

Hamas’ Attack on Israel Is Puzzling (Paul Craig Roberts)

I am being asked about the Israeli-Palestine conflict, which seems to be taking attention away from the Ukraine-Russia conflict. People, by which I mean people who pay attention, are wondering why the Palestinians would attack Israel like this as it provides Netanyahu with an excuse to grab the remaining bits of Palestine and destroy the Gaza strip, thus disposing of the two-state solution by conquest. Who can blame Israel after Palestinians killed Israelis and took hostages? I have heard the official explanation of Palestinian perfidy, but I don’t have an explanation for the attack. It seems it would have to be more than perfidy. I do agree with readers that it seems a curious thing for Hamas to do as it plays into Israel’s hands. I also agree that there is something else strange about the attack. How did drones and so many rockets, allegedly from Iran, and some say Ukraine, get into the Gaza strip, and how did the Hamas attackers get into Israel?

The Hamas attack has something of 9/11’s flavor. Just as every aspect of the US National Security State failed simultaneously on September 11, 2001, Israel’s security system, including the Iron Dome the US constructed for Israel, simultaneously failed. Mysteriously, the Hamas fighters entered Israel on the ground and through the air and on the sea without being detected. Mysteriously, large quantities of weapons entered Palestine through Israel without being detected. This is too much convenient failure to be believable. It will be interesting to see if anyone in Israel is held accountable for the total security failure. In the US no one was held accountable for the security failures on September 11, which should have told us a lot. Not knowing, we can but speculate. We have a motive. Israel can now steal the rest of Palestine.

Another motive might be that Israel can expand the conflict into a wider war and succeed this time in grabbing the water resources of southern Lebanon. It could even get nastier with Israeli moves against Syria and Iran. Oil prices could go sky high causing world disruption. A victorious war and the end of the Palestinian problem would free Netanyahu from his legal and political problems. There is a lot to think about. But let’s move on to the security failure that made the attack possible. Why would Netanyahu enable Hamas to attack Israel by standing down Israel security? It seems a nonsensical suggestion, but isn’t as it creates the conditions in which Israel can absorb all that remains of Palestine, just as 9/11 created the conditions for the neoconservatives to launch the wars they had planned in the Middle East.

The difficult question is why would the Palestinians bring on their own destruction by attacking Israel when Hamas has no prospect of defeating Israel? Again, we can only speculate. It could be an Israeli operation from start to finish. Israel infiltrates Hamas, just as the FBI infiltrates Trump supporters and patriotic groups now called domestic terrorists. The Israeli agents play up Israel’s abuse of the Palestinians. Netanyahu helps them along by blowing up the sacred Mosque. The agents come up with an attack plan made possible with weapons from Iran and devices from Iran to jam Israeli security. They go about this carefully, relying on the decades of anger and hurt and the prospect of release from impotence to crowd out Hamas’ reason. I don’t say these speculations suffice as the explanation. But I would not be surprised if these speculations, if investigated, would prove to be closer to the truth than whatever official narrative emerges.

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“..this battle would likely endure for at least four months — perhaps longer. And Israel will suffer massive casualties..”

Will The Battle Of Gaza Strip Be Israel’s Iwo Jima? (Larry Johnson)

The Gaza Strip is the home base of Hamas, but there is not a single specific location in Gaza that can be targeted and destroyed in order to bring an end to Hamas. I believe that Israel is dangerously over confident in its bellicose declarations that it will wipe Hamas off the face of the earth. Short of using nukes, Israel will have to send its ground forces into the strip and fight house to house battles. I think many of Israel’s supporters labor under the delusions that Gaza is a small area that can be easily dealt with. It is not. Let me put this into perspective. The Gaza Strip is 141 square miles in size. Let’s compare it to Iwo Jima — that tiny island is almost 9 square miles. Unlike Iwo Jima — a small island — the Gaza Strip borders Egypt, which means it has a supply route that Israel cannot close unless Israel decides to go to war with Egypt as well.

Why do I bring up Iwo Jima? Because the Gaza Strip is ripe with tunnels and bunkers designed to protect Hamas fighters from aerial bombardment. Just as the United States Navy decimated the surface of Iwo Jima, Israel can flatten the dwellings and office buildings crowded into Gaza. But the U.S. Navy failed to destroy the Japanese force hiding below the surface with the naval fusillade. The U.S. Marine Corps had to land on the beaches and fight a bloody month long battle to clear the island. I think Israel is looking at the equivalent of fighting the Battle of Iwo Jima in the Gaza Strip. Only instead of a month long effort, this battle would likely endure for at least four months — perhaps longer. And Israel will suffer massive casualties. I believe the length of the battle hinges on two critical factors: 1) The ability of Hamas to get resupplied from Egypt with food, weapons and ammunition and 2) The skill and tenacity of Hamas in using anti-tank guided missiles and light artillery effective at short range.

If Hamas replicates the tactics Hezbollah employed against Israel in its 2006 incursion into Southern Lebanon then Israel’s chances of prevailing quickly are slim. Israel’s strategic position will be further complicated if Hezbollah decides to enter the fray in a significant way. Fighting a two front war over an extended period of time will sap Israeli resources. The problem this presents is that Israel’s traditional supplier of weapons and ammunition — the United States — is running on fumes having depleted its stores in order to support Ukraine. Let me give you some other urban combat battles that might provide some historical lessons for the campaign Israel is about to undertake — the Battle of Fallujah, the Battle of Hue City, the Nazi attack on the Jewish uprising in Warsaw. That should get the discussion going.

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“..the final Jewish solution to remove the Arabs from the territory according to the Basic Law, ratified by the Israeli Supreme Court in 2021, which legalizes the takeover of Palestinian territory as a “natural” Jewish right.”

Race War Against The Palestinians Turns Into War Of The Worlds (Helmer)

Between August 18 and September 1, the Soviet aircraft carrier Moskva passed through the Turkish Straits and into the Mediterranean, accompanied by two guided-missile destroyers. Over the next seven days the Soviet Navy gathered almost seventy surface ships – with uncounted submarines – and deployed between the Greek island of Crete and the point on the Libyan coastline where the Libyan and Egyptian border ran into the sea. That was fifty-four years ago in 1969. Ostensibly, the Soviet operation was to screen an amphibious troop landing exercise of Soviet, Egyptian and Syrian troops. In fact, the naval screen protected Libyan Army Captain Muammar Qaddafi and a dozen junior officer associates when, on September 1, 1969, they successfully toppled the regime of Libyan King Idris and ended US occupation and control of Libya through the Wheelus Air Force Base.

Can the Palestinian operation, Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, which Hamas forces commenced on Saturday morning, continue for long enough to engage the Arab state militaries, the Iranian, US and Russian forces, to turn into a new war of the worlds, as the US and NATO war against Russia is on the Ukrainian battlefield? Will the US force, including the aircraft carrier USS Gerald Ford and its five cruiser and destroyer escorts, screen Israel as it orders emergency resupply of US arms and ammunition? Will it attempt to blockade the Arab coast – Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Egypt – to prevent resupply convoys from Turkey or Iran aiding the Palestinians? “This is the day of the greatest battle to end the last occupation and the last apartheid regime of earth,” the Hamas military commander, Mohammed Deif, has declared.

Is this the final Israeli war of “mighty vengeance”, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has declared, forcing all Palestinians in Gaza “to leave now”, and in the phrase of the spokesman of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), “end the Gaza enclave”? Is this the final Jewish solution to remove the Arabs from the territory according to the Basic Law, ratified by the Israeli Supreme Court in 2021, which legalizes the takeover of Palestinian territory as a “natural” Jewish right. “The State of Israel is the nation state of the Jewish People,” the constitution enacted in 2018 by the Knesset declares, “in which it realizes its natural, cultural, religious and historical right to self-determination. The exercise of the right to national self-determination in the State of Israel is unique to the Jewish People”; and “the State views the development of Jewish settlement as a national value, and shall act to encourage and promote its establishment and strengthening.” Is this race war — is it now the war of the worlds?

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“I am sorry even for the deaths of individual Israeli soldiers, and more so for all the innocents who died and are now dying. But I will not condemn Hamas.”

Now We Have Your Attention (Craig Murray)

There have been decades of photos of dead Palestinian women and children, and kids being beaten, humilated and imprisoned by Israeli soldiers. The historic killing rate in this “conflict” has been fairly consistent at about 40:1. None of this ever caused more than a raised eyebrow and a mild tut-tut from the western “liberal” Establishment. I can’t recall camera crews ever pursuing any zionist politicians down the street demanding that they use the word “condemn” of the latest Israeli atrocity. The paroxysm of hatred in the political and media class, unleashed by a single day of the boot being on the other foot is instructive. It is particularly instructive in their near complete unanimity – what percentage of the discussion on broadcast TV or radio have you heard this last 48 hours given over to Palestinian or pro-Palestinian voices?

Yet it is very plain from social media that the public is by no means as unanimous in their support of Israel as are the political and media class. But then the public are not bought and paid for. Asymmetric warfare tends to be vile. Oppressed and colonised peoples don’t have the luxury of lining up soldiers in neatly pressed uniforms and polished boots, to face off against the opposing army in an equality of arms. A colonised and oppressed people tends, given the chance, to mirror the atrocities perpetrated on them by their oppressor. This of course feeds in, always, to the propaganda of the Imperialist. A paroxysm of resistance by the oppressed always ends up portrayed by the Imperialist as evidence of the bestiality of the colonised people and in itself justifying the “civilising mission” of the coloniser.

Thus the “Indian Mutiny” became a Victorian tale of rape and murder of British women and of the Black Hole of Calcutta. Thus the Mau Mau were evil butchers, and the IRA were terrorists, which is the modern term of art for those resisting evil and foreign rule. The Israeli Ambassador to the UN yesterday described the Hamas fighters as “animal like”. This of course is not true. They are people, but people who have been crazed by unbearable levels of injustice and oppression. I am extremely sorry for all those who die, as in all wars. I am sorry even for the deaths of individual Israeli soldiers, and more so for all the innocents who died and are now dying. But I will not condemn Hamas.

For this I do not even need to delve into the backstory of Hamas’ initial sponsoring by Israel to split Fatah. They have grown well past that. I do not condemn Hamas because the resistance of the Palestinian people is a reflex response to their slow genocide. Yes it is an inchoate and violent response. Of course I wish it did not have innocent victims. The people I do condemn are the political class internationally who, with one voice, put out statements supporting “Israel’s right to self-defence”. A right they grant to the oppressor but deny to the oppressed. Those are the people who need to be condemned.

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“..one anonymous official told the Post that the move would be wise because it “jams the far right”..

White House Hopes To Include Ukraine In Israel Aid (RT)

Top White House officials are considering whether to include more Ukraine funding in an emergency aid package for Israel, multiple news outlets reported. One staffer suggested the move would force “far right” lawmakers to authorize additional aid for Kiev. Though President Joe Biden already announced that military assistance was “on its way” to Israel following a surprise attack by Palestinian militants over the weekend, the White House has signaled that it would soon ask Congress to approve additional aid for the Jewish state. Lawmakers in both parties and senior administration officials have hinted that the aid package could also include provisions for Ukraine, unnamed sources told the Washington Post, NBC News and other outlets on Monday.

Though no final decision has been made, one anonymous official told the Post that the move would be wise because it “jams the far right”– referring to Republicans who vocally support Israel but are skeptical of continued aid to Ukraine. White House spokesman John Kirby, meanwhile, declined to say whether the two aid packages would be linked, only stating “We believe both are important.” While debate over the aid is likely to be contentious, the Pentagon has assured that it has plenty of weapons for all US partners. During a background briefing on Monday, a senior defense official told reporters that Washington could “continue our support both to Ukraine, Israel, and maintain our own global readiness,” noting that the US has been able to meet “every request that our Israeli counterparts have made.”

Israel is among the largest recipients of US foreign aid, taking in some $3.3 billion in American tax dollars in 2022 alone – a comparable amount to previous years – according to US government statistics. Since the conflict with Russia escalated in February 2022, Ukraine has also become a major beneficiary, with the White House approving at least $45 billion in direct military aid through 47 separate transfers. Both Republicans and Democrats have largely voiced support for Israel after the deadly Hamas attack early on Saturday morning, which has prompted harsh retaliation by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and an intense bombing campaign on the Gaza Strip. More than 1,500 people have been killed on both sides of the conflict so far, while Palestinian fighters claim to have captured over 100 Israeli and foreign hostages during their raids.

Thousands of Israelis and Palestinians have evacuated their homes due to the violent flare-up, while the IDF has called on 300,000 reservists as it mobilizes for a larger conflict. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared that his country was in a state of “war” as the attack unfolded, and said on Monday that the military response was “just getting started.”

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“What was in the past will not be in the future.”

Military Operation ‘Will Take A Long Time’ – Israel (RT)

Israel will “never forgive” this weekend’s attack by Hamas and will take “a long time” to deal with the terrorist threat, Foreign Minister Eli Cohen said on Monday. “It will take time. It will not take a few days. It will take a long time,” Cohen said during a video-link press conference from his office in Jerusalem, adding that such “inhuman terrorists” and “monsters” cannot be allowed to threaten Israel, the region and the world. Cohen called Hamas “the proxy of Iran” and accused the militant Palestinian group of carrying out “a historical massacre that the world will not forget.” According to Israeli authorities, more than 700 of their citizens have been killed since Saturday, when Hamas launched a rocket barrage against Israel and its militants crossed from Gaza into the surrounding Jewish settlements. “Israel will never forgive,” Cohen insisted. “What was in the past will not be in the future.”

Cohen also echoed the words of PM Benjamin Netanyahu that “Israel is at war” against Hamas, which he called a “vicious terror organization,” and vowed that Israel will “regain control, and win back security and stability.” The foreign minister claimed that Hamas only wants to “murder as much as they can” and that there was no land dispute between Israel and Gaza, because “we gave the Palestinians Gaza to the last millimeter.” As part of the 2005 “disengagement,” Israel paid some 8,000 Jewish settlers to dismantle 21 of their settlements in the Gaza Strip, which was then handed over to the Palestinian Authority. Israel remained in control of the sea, airspace, and all the utilities. In 2007, Hamas ousted the Fatah faction of the Palestinian Authority in Gaza and became the de facto government in the territory. The UN still considers Gaza to be under Israeli military occupation.

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“Russia considers a two-state solution, as outlined in resolutions by the UN Security Council, to be the only viable way towards stability, but neither Israel nor Washington appear committed to it, Lavrov noted.”

Moscow Blasts US Approach To Israel-Palestine Violence (RT)

Moscow is deeply concerned at last weekend’s surge in violence between Israel and the Palestinian militant movement Hamas, but finds the US approach to the crisis problematic, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said. Washington’s position is questionable “because they say: stop it all immediately, Israel must win, destroy the terrorists, and that’s it,” the top diplomat said on Monday. There were many escalations in this long-running conflict, “and never after the situation calmed down were the necessary efforts to remove the main cause undermining stability in the Middle East undertaken,” he added, referring to the fact that Palestinians don’t have a nation state. Russia considers a two-state solution, as outlined in resolutions by the UN Security Council, to be the only viable way towards stability, but neither Israel nor Washington appear committed to it, Lavrov noted.

Quashing extremism without creating a viable Palestinian state cannot bring peace, he said. Instead “the Americans are trying to monopolize mediation efforts” and focus attention on security problems, which are genuine, and discussions of how daily conditions may be improved for Palestinians, according to the Russian minister. Lavrov reiterated that Russia considered violence directed at civilians unacceptable, regardless of which side perpetrated it. He condemned the practice of taking hostages, as Hamas fighters had during their incursion from Gaza into southern Israel on Saturday. Of particular concern for Moscow is the threat that Russian citizens living in Israel face amid the escalation, the diplomat added, offering assistance to those who may seek evacuation from the country.

The minister made the remarks during a joint press conference in Moscow with Secretary-General of the Arab League Ahmed Aboul Gheit. He said the organization has recently achieved progress in reducing tensions between various players in the Middle East and was in a position to play a “definitive role in the complex improvement of the regional situation,” including in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Moscow will back the League’s effort, Lavrov pledged. Washington has declared its full support for Israel in the hostilities with Hamas and sought to make members of the UN Security Council condemn the group during an emergency session on Sunday. Many Arab nations stated that Israel was at least partially responsible for the violence, due to its treatment of Palestinians. Consecutive Israeli governments have been expanding Israeli settlements in occupied Palestinian territories in the West Bank, which are considered illegal under international law. The Gaza enclave, the domain of Hamas, has been under an Israeli blockade since 2007.

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Yeah yeah.

US Has Enough Weapons For Israel, Ukraine And More – Pentagon (RT)

Washington can meet all of West Jerusalem’s requests for weapons, equipment and ammunition while continuing to support Kiev, a Pentagon spokeswoman told reporters on Monday. “We are able to continue our support both to Ukraine, Israel, and maintain our own global readiness,” a senior Defense Department official said in a background briefing. “While we are providing and will continue to provide a significant amount of support to Ukraine, we are careful about ensuring we can also respond to other crises and contingencies, support other partners and maintain our own military readiness and our ability to support others,” the official later added.

The US has been able to meet “every every request that our Israeli counterparts have made” and anticipate to see “continual delivery” on some of those requests, the official also said. While declining into specifics, the spokesperson said this does apply to ‘Iron Dome’ systems and other air defenses. The Pentagon is “working as fast as possible” to expedite the delivery of “critically needed” ammunition and equipment, as well as contacting military contractors to expedite pending Israeli orders. When reporters voiced concerns about how the US weapons might be used, the Pentagon official said there were “robust end-use monitoring practices and procedures” in place, and that the US was “in constant dialogue with the Israelis about their operational plans.”

US cargo planes have already begun landing in Israel, even as the government in West Jerusalem announced a “total siege” of Gaza in reprisal for Hamas incursions that began on Saturday. The conflict, which began on Saturday, is the bloodiest that Israel has seen since 1973. The Pentagon has described the deployment of the USS Gerald R. Ford carrier strike group to the eastern Mediterranean as “an unequivocal demonstration in deed and not only in words of US support for Israel’s defense.” The carrier is supposed to “serve as a deterrent signal to Iran, Lebanese Hezbollah, and any other proxy across the region who might be considering exploiting the current situation to escalate conflict,” the official said.

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Too late to start tracking them now. That was the plan?!

Hamas Using Weapons Given To Ukraine – Medvedev (RT)

The weapons Kiev’s Western backers have actively supplied to Ukraine have found their way to Hamas militants and are now “being actively used in Israel,”former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev said in a Telegram post on Monday, adding that any future military hardware supplied to Kiev could end up on the black market as well. “It will only get worse from here,”Medvedev warned, predicting that the world should “expect missiles, tanks, and even planes from Kiev on the black market soon.” His words came amid rumors that Hamas militants that control the Gaza Strip had gotten their hands on some US-made weaponry before their attack on Israel over the weekend. No solid evidence confirming these claims has emerged so far.

However, an unverified video circulating online showed a Palestinian militant displaying assorted US-made pieces, including a standard-issue M136 anti-tank grenade launcher, while thanking Ukrainians for the weapons. According to Medvedev, “corrupt authorities” in Ukraine would not hesitate to trade everything they had received from their backers. “They would steal everything in sight,” the former president claimed, adding that the Western weapons sent to Ukraine would soon fuel conflicts in other parts of the world, just like the trove of weapons the Americans left in Afghanistan during their hasty withdrawal from the country in 2021. The aforementioned video has already sparked concerns in the US, with Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene saying on Sunday that its origins must be investigated.

The congresswoman also claimed on X, formerly known as Twitter, that some of the arms used by the militants might have come from Ukraine or Afghanistan. Washington has been Kiev’s biggest supplier of military aid since the onset of its conflict with Moscow. The US has poured a total of $46.6 billion into military assistance to Ukraine, including direct weapons and ammunition shipments, as well as grants and loans for weapons and equipment. Kiev has repeatedly faced accusations of misusing or selling off the weaponry, which it has vehemently denied. On Monday, the Ukrainian military intelligence (GUR) blamed the rumors about weapons supposedly coming from Ukraine to Hamas on Russia.

Moscow was allegedly waging a “discreditation” campaign against Ukraine in the Middle East, GUR claimed in a Facebook post, adding that the weapons that ended up in the hands of Hamas were “trophy weapons” captured by Russian forces from Ukrainian troops. Russia has not commented on these claims so far. The news came amid the latest escalation between Hamas and Israel, which began last Saturday when the Palestinian militant group launched a surprise attack on multiple locations along the Gaza border. Israeli officials have estimated that more than 700 people have been killed in the Hamas assault and over 2,200 have been injured.

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“..no matter where it comes from—from any point of the world ocean or from any territory—such a number, so many hundreds of our missiles appear in the air in a retaliatory strike that there is no chance of survival..”

“Russia won’t be the first to resume testing of nuclear weapons. But if the United States were to go down that path, then Russia would respond immediately..”

“If the United States were to resume a nuclear arms race by returning to nuclear testing, Russia would begin such a race with an insurmountable lead in nuclear delivery systems. Game, set, match—Russia.”

Russia Throws Down the Nuclear Gauntlet (Scott Ritter)

In the audience at the Valdai Discussion Club was Sergei Karaganov, a well-known Russian political scientist who, in an article titled “A Difficult but Necessary Decision,” published on June 13, 2023, in the journal Russia in Global Affairs, articulated in favor of Russia moving away from a nuclear posture based upon assured nuclear retaliation to one that favored pre-emption. “We will have to make nuclear deterrence a convincing argument again,” Karaganov wrote, “by lowering the threshold for the use of nuclear weapons set unacceptably high, and by rapidly but prudently moving up the deterrence-escalation ladder.” According to Karaganov, “If we correctly build a strategy of intimidation and deterrence and even use of nuclear weapons, the risk of a ‘retaliatory’ nuclear or any other strike on our territory can be reduced to an absolute minimum.

Only a madman,” Karaganov argued, “who, above all, hates America, will have the guts to strike back in ‘defense’ of Europeans, thus putting his own country at risk and sacrificing conditional Boston for conditional Poznan.” If such a madman did, in fact exist, then, Karaganov noted, “we will have to hit a bunch of targets in a number of countries in order to bring those who have lost their mind to reason. Morally, this is a terrible choice as we will use God’s weapon, thus dooming ourselves to grave spiritual losses. But if we do not do this, not only Russia can die, but most likely the entire human civilization will cease to exist.” President Putin, using the prerogative that is accrued through his position, called on Karaganov to ask a question. This was no accident, given the outcry that had followed the publication of Karaganov’s article, which led to much speculation that Putin was considering adopting a nuclear posture along the lines proposed by Karaganov.

The Russan academic did not disappoint, asking the Russian President whether it was not time for Russia to change its approach to nuclear arms and restore its deterrent strength in the eyes of Western elites who repeat endlessly that Russia is weak. It was a trap. “I have read your article,” Putin responded, before laying out a detailed answer that made it clear to all who listened that the Russian president did not agree with Karaganov’s thesis. “From the moment the launch of missiles is detected,” Putin said, “no matter where it comes from—from any point of the world ocean or from any territory—such a number, so many hundreds of our missiles appear in the air in a retaliatory strike that there is no chance of survival there will be no single enemy left, and in several directions at once.” Putin urged America to understand that any threats against Russia are “absolutely unacceptable for any potential aggressor.”In short, President Putin was reinvigorating the Cold War-era nuclear posture of mutually assured destruction as Russia’s go-to nuclear doctrine.

Moreover, Putin noted, Russia would launch a nuclear attack against any country or countries that threaten its continued existence as a sovereign state, regardless of whether the threat posed is by nuclear arms or conventional arms. Since there is no such existential threat to Russia today, the Russian President concluded, there is no reason to threaten the use of nuclear arms. However, Putin said, there was one aspect of Russian nuclear policy that could, and indeed should, be changed—Russia’s ratification of the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. The United States, Putin noted, had signed the treaty, but had never ratified it. Given Russia’s modernization of its nuclear arsenal, which included, in addition to the Burevestnik cruise missile, the Sarmat heavy intercontinental ballistic missile, the Poseidon nuclear torpedo, and hypersonic delivery vehicles, many in the Russian military were demanding that Russia resume nuclear testing to be sure that the new cutting-edge strategic weapons systems that constitute the heart of Russia’s strategic nuclear forces perform as intended.

Putin observed that this very same question had been discussed in the United States by its military officials, who were, de jure, unrestrained by a treaty that had not been ratified, and as such never entered into force. Thus, the big news out of the Valdai Discussion Club isn’t a new Russian missile or nuclear posture. The big news is that the Russian president will be sending a bill to the Russian Duma that would revoke Russia’s ratification of the test ban treaty. Russia won’t be the first to resume testing of nuclear weapons. But if the United States were to go down that path, then Russia would respond immediately. The important point here is that any US testing would be done in support of either legacy nuclear weapons that are in dire need of being replaced, or future nuclear weapons which have yet to be developed and fielded.

Russia, as Putin underscored, has already modernized its nuclear force. If the United States were to resume a nuclear arms race by returning to nuclear testing, Russia would begin such a race with an insurmountable lead in nuclear delivery systems. Game, set, match—Russia.

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“..in an era where figures on all sides of the ideological spectrum have found success running against establishment politics..”

RFK Jr Announces Independent Run for President (Sp.)

The unorthodox political figure declared he is running as an independent candidate Monday morning in a speech that called for national renewal via a rejection of America’s political order. “We declare independence from the two political parties and the corrupt interests that dominate them and the entire rigged system… that have turned government officials into indentured servants for their corporate bosses.” It’s a statement that could have come from Bernie Sanders or, if not for the vaguely anti-capitalist rhetoric, perhaps Donald Trump. But in an era where figures on all sides of the ideological spectrum have found success running against establishment politics, it instead came from activist and environmental lawyer Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Kennedy has made his name in public life as a highly idiosyncratic figure. After a brief stint as an assistant district attorney in New York City, he drifted towards environmental activism. Followers of online anti-vaccine discourse may know him for his prominent activism around that issue, which critics say trends towards conspiracy theory. On Monday, the heir to the influential Kennedy political brand cast himself as a champion of those estranged from US politics over a wide array of issues. “Most of us agree that we should take care of our veterans,” said Kennedy. “Most of us agree that we should seek peace abroad instead of war. We all agree that teachers should receive decent salaries and respect. We all agree that housing should be affordable and corporations should pay their fair share.”

“And yet these universal yearnings stand alongside a broad agreement that our country has lost its way.” Kennedy seems to believe the political party of his father and uncle has lost its way as well. Since first announcing his presidential bid under the Democratic banner half a year ago, Kennedy registered as high as 20% in voter intention surveys for the party’s primary. But party figures, fearing his candidacy would weaken presumptive nominee President Joe Biden, strongly rejected him. Spurned by liberal media, Kennedy instead turned to independent online outlets, as well as Fox News. In the process Kennedy gained a following among political conservatives, to the extent that Republicans now seem most fearful of the candidate’s spoiler potential.

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That concludes the investigation?!

Unlike in Trump’s case, there are zero legal reasons why Biden would have classified docs at home. Pretty simple.

It takes impressive legal gymnastics to accuse a president and leave a vice-president alone for the same thing.

Biden Questioned In Classified Documents Probe (RT)

sUS President Joe Biden met with federal investigators multiple times in recent days, as the Justice Department seeks to determine how classified documents wound up in Biden’s home and personal office without proper approval. The president sat down with special counsel Robert Hur to discuss the documents case on Sunday and Monday, the White House confirmed, noting that the interviews had “concluded” and were strictly “voluntary.” “As we have said from the beginning, the president and the White House are cooperating with this investigation, and as it has been appropriate, we have provided relevant updates publicly,” White House spokesman Ian Sams said in a statement, vowing to be “as transparent as we can” while preserving “the integrity of the investigation.”

The Justice Department launched the documents probe last November, after the president’s lawyers reported that a trove of secret files had been found in one of Biden’s private offices. Additional material was later turned up at Biden’s Delaware home, and in January Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed Hur to lead an investigation into “the possible unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents.” Hur has reportedly questioned Biden’s “closest aides and advisers” as part of a “quiet inquiry” over the last nine months, including top officials such as Secretary of State Antony Blinken and National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, according to the New York Times.

Investigators have worked to determine the chain of custody for the sensitive documents, and whether Biden’s team “adhered to security protocols in handling and packing up official documents and private notes from his vice presidency,” the outlet added. Until Monday, it was unclear whether the president would submit for an in-person interview, with the White House declining to comment on the matter previously. Hur’s team has similarly offered few details about the investigation to the public. The Biden probe coincided with another major classified documents case involving former President Donald Trump, who was indicted on 37 felony counts linked to the alleged mishandling of secret files in June. Federal agents previously raided the ex-president’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida and turned up a large number of classified papers, though Trump maintains he was authorized to possess the documents and denies any wrongdoing.

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“The Bidens had only one family business. They did not make furniture or sell groceries. They sold influence and, as Biden associate Devon Archer explained, Joe was their “brand.”

Investigations are Exposing the Bidens’ Influence-Peddling Dynasty (Turley)

There is a sharp disconnect between the public persona long maintained by the press and what is becoming more apparent to the public now. Although the image of a “unifier-in-chief” quickly collapsed, the most lasting portrayal is that Joe Biden cares. Unlike Trump, he is portrayed as acting not out of greed, but an overwhelming desire to do good. In a typical article, a contributor to Forbes gushed about “How Empathy Defines Joe Biden.” The article explained that “Biden feels empathetic because that is who he is.” That is not the image that emerges from the growing evidence about Biden and his family. The Bidens are suffering from legal exposure in actions concerning everything from withholding child support to peddling influence to federal felonies.

The investigations and inquiries often turn on questions of intent for actions taken by Biden family members, including the president himself. The motive is often all too apparent. Hunter Biden left a long trail of emails and texts seeking millions in exchange for access to his father. He is shown in messages invoking his father’s power, threatening foreign figures to send him money. In one message, he allegedly makes a demand for an immediate transfer of cash from a Chinese businessman by saying that his father is sitting next to him to make sure the payment comes through. Hunter Biden was burning through a fortune on drugs, prostitutes and high living. There were many eager to have the son of the vice president dependent on their largesse. While Hunter is often portrayed as a human wreck, salvaged by influence-seekers, his uncles generated their own controversies.

James has been a well-known figure among alleged influence peddlers for years in cashing in on access to his brother, Joe. Joe’s younger brother, Frank, has also been long identified as involved in the family influence peddling. Like Hunter, Frank appears to have been in dire financial straits due to his careening lifestyle and lack of any appreciable skills. Frank’s need for money was not only great but known to his brother. In 1999, at age 43, Frank was involved in a car crash in Cardiff-by-the-Sea near Encinitas, California. He was accused of responsibility for the death of single father Michael Albano and then of evading service and responsibility in lawsuits by Albano’s surviving children. He only recently began paying what he owes. [..] The Bidens had only one family business. They did not make furniture or sell groceries. They sold influence and, as Biden associate Devon Archer explained, Joe was their “brand.” As these investigations and prosecutions continue, the public may conclude that it is not empathy but avarice that defines the Bidens.

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“Reality is finally asserting its rugged old self to say that our country is as broke as broke can be..”

Here We Go Loop-de-Loop (Jim Kunstler)

I’m confident that Congress will sort out this new Speaker business in short order, now that the world appears to light up. But what of its current projects? For instance, the inquiry into the darkish business ventures of the Biden Family, Inc., and what to do about it? That look-see is tending toward a picture that shows an appalling connection between the Bidens’ lustful chasing of global main chances and the horrifying demolition of Ukraine currently ongoing. If it’s not already obvious to a majority of USA adults that “Joe Biden,” the cats-paw in the White House, must go, it will be in a matter of weeks as the bank records step into the spotlight and speak for themselves.

Are you ready for President Kamala and government-by-word-salad? E.g.: “It’s very important, as you’ve heard from so many incredible leaders, for us at every moment in time, and certainly this one, to seize the moment of time in which we exist, in our present, and be able to contextualize it, understand where we exist in history and in the moment as it relates not only to the past but the future,” she said. Doctoral dissertations will be penned explicating that mouthful for years to come (where and whenever those years might be located on time’s mystifying spectrum).

As for Congress and its grim duties, there is also the matter of the current laughable budget resolution running out again just before Thanksgiving. Work to do! The USA is in such a desperate debt and bond issuance dilemma that it’s like a trapped wild animal faced with having to chew off its own leg to escape death. And the cause of that dilemma is our legislature’s failure to control the nation’s spending. As America’s Venerable Bede, Sen. Everett Dirksen (d. 1969) used to say: “A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you’re talking about real money.” Well, that game is drawing to a close. Reality is finally asserting its rugged old self to say that our country is as broke as broke can be and there has to be a painful adjustment. It will be presented as a Hobson’s choice: you can have no money… or you can have plenty of money that’s worthless. What’s it gonna be?

I’d guess that the new Speaker will have to be Mr. Jordan of Ohio, because at this time Congress badly needs to be led by someone who at least appears to be muscular and confident. One has to wonder, though, that even muscles and confidence might not be enough in the current situation — that moment of time in which we exist, as the Veep put it so well. And yet, so many things are happening at once that it feels like someone up there is monkeying with time itself. Or perhaps a giant blob has gummed up its wheels. But, really, I must ask: are you not a little tired of being a country that doesn’t know what it’s doing?

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    Pablo Picasso Self portrait 1896   • Hamas’ Attack on Israel Is Puzzling (Paul Craig Roberts) • Will The Battle Of Gaza Strip Be Israel’s Iwo Jim
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle October 10 2023]

    V. Arnold

    Dragon fly’s, flitting about in the evening’s coolness and high humidity…….


    Tricky event for the NYT and Haaretz. We have the NYT supporting all things Biden – Israel fight to the end and all that pro Israel stuff – then we have Haaretz, the last left wing newspaper published in the western world, fierce opponents of Netanyahu, they hate the man.

    How can Haaretz and NYT reconcile their views? Listen to the voters, they voted for supporters of Netanyahu, so the NYT wins because democracy.

    Then we have CNN pretending that Palestinians are humans? CNN, bullshitters extraordinaire!!

    Something weird is happening, this is not what we think it is, there is a lot more to this “war” and it seems as though all the media parties have already been briefed, which means they were briefed by Israel.


    Something weird is happening, this is not what we think it is

    Agreed. It feels like a banker-backed inside job using CIA management to play a big move on a chess board. It looks a lot like an attempt to get the US dollar to rise but I am so confused.
    I am sure we will get to the bottom of it in due time while we still have an internet that is not quite criminalised. Just like we did with #Plasmidgate (which took a few years and a bunch of heads in the game).

    I’m going bush…

    Dr. D

    Israel: When seconds count, ain’t nobody coming. Not for your car on fire, not for you.

    From Tucker, Nikki Haley says “Finish them! Attack Iran who should have hell to pay [for attacking Israel]”

    1) That settles any doubt Haley is a core NeoCon more reckless and bloodthirsty than Dick Cheney.
    2) Where do they find women like this? Do they give them brain surgery?
    3) Iran did not, ostensibly, attack anyone.
    4) Do you know where Iran is and how big it is?
    5) Has it come to your attention that we’re out of both weapons and oil thanks to Biden?

    6) My real point. As a Presidential candidate, WTF is she talking to? Because it isn’t us, anywhere across the U.S. There are NO groups whose vote will be won by attacking Iran, and barely any groups to gather from attacking Hamas (Jewish lobby and subset of Jewish vote)

    Doesn’t that suggest to me that we don’t actually have elections anymore, at all? That she is talking to the donor class, who then pays to rig the voting machines? How else could such a thing be said?

    “Hamas’ Attack on Israel Is Puzzling (Paul Craig Roberts)

    The Markets ALSO knew that the war would happen, but I wanted to voice that there are very high-level people who claim it’s true that Mossad really, honestly was taken by surprise. You know my opinion, just wanted to say THEY say it’s true.

    Let me add Mannarino here, for a truly epic meltdown rant, as despite being a ruthless former Bear Sterns trader, does actually care non-stop about these pointless deaths and hardships. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oze0NkeS1Bo

    He’s not blowing smoke, he has actually said this for +10 years. That is, that they will do ANYTHING to keep the system going, to expand money supply infinitely at an infinite rate. That is, things that YOU CAN’T EVEN BELIEVE, being a normal human and not a weasel-squeezing psychopath.

    AND in this, it’s only “For Now”. A whole regional war may only save us for a month. We are running $1B an HOUR now, and HAVE TO, or it all ends. The good guys know it, the bad guys know it. The minute they cut off the Ukraine printing in Congress (suddenly), they HAD TO does something, anything, RIGHT NOW. That’s how fast it’s compounding. The only thing large enough to print enough compounding money, to hide the collapse, is a WAR. And yes, a WORLD war, because “Which war do you mean?” The one in Ukraine? Or Syria? Or Libya? Or Africa? Or Israel? Or Taiwan?

    Just like Sept 2019, “And then a miracle happened” and the bond/debt collapse was all averted for four more years.

    Back at home, we have a three-part system. A World War we will lose plus the Left (Red Bolsheviks) and the Right (White Bolsheviks), and the Federal Government (Ineffectual Tsar Nicolas). Again, the setup is: We “lose” the war as our own hardship and non-support mean we withdraw at a critical point. Then we – both sides – take out the legitimate government, THEN have a civil war among ourselves. …And all hopefully to set up a Socialist totalitarianism for 70 years. Still on plan. Everyone knows everything about Russia, have Putin-Telepathy, but they don’t know this. Okay then.

    Anyway, WHY have a war in Israel? Really? TO STOP THE DEBT COLLAPSE. That’s it. That’s so large that’s what runs the world. https://youtu.be/35DSdw7dHjs?t=97

    “There are no nations, there are no peoples, there are no Russians, there are no Arabs, there are no 3rd worlds, there is no West, THERE IS ONLY ONE Holistic System of Systems, One vast interwoven, interacting, multivaried, multinational dominion of DOLLARS.

    Petrodollars, Electrodollars, Eurodollars, Rubles, Pounds, and Shekels.”

    That is, by the way, or best way to describe, the Beast, the Whore of Babylon that rules the earth.

    Anyway, as the White Hats try to cut it off – from its Afghan drug money, from the human trafficking revenue, from it’s Ukraine money laundering – this is the DEFINITE and necessary, required, PREDICTABLE response. White Hats KNOW whacking the hornet’s nest will do this, one reason they can’t admit they’re doing it (to you).

    Okay? Not that Israel doesn’t exist, Hamas doesn’t exist, their issues and misbehavior don’t exist, etc. But this is what is running it all. We’re in a runaway debt compounding vertical spike. $1 BILLION per HOUR, $1 TRILLION a Month.

    Pressures are building exponentially, and spreading through all the pipes in the system. They must have a WAR, a MASS DEATH to hide it, collapse it, and release the pressure to build the machine again. That is the ONLY relevant parameter anymore. That’s it. ALL actions must address this ONE action, be it Congress, or Duma, or Knesset, or the non-democratic dictats of the EU.

    And we’re only getting started.

    (Mega mass- death is the only Deflationary offset, but that was not successful)

    Note: prices, unchanged. No oil, no bonds, no gold, no Dow, nothing. In a world war and debt collapse. So it would seem that’s how it’s going to be, and when it stops, what we’re going to have isn’t HIGH prices for gold after a market halt (as in, one gold coin buys a block in Berlin) but NO prices. No one will KNOW the prices at all. Of anything. Because they will have broken the system that completely, trying to save their skins.

    Got it? Now back to our program:


    “• Hamas’ Attack on Israel Is Puzzling (Paul Craig Roberts)

    He is being lucid and sharp here. Not only what, but when. Both are suspicious or indicative. When everybody is exhausted and busy. When Congress shut them off anyway. When the debt means we’re near the end. Oh and P.S. on the DAY of the 50th anniversary.

    “I believe that Israel is dangerously over confident in its bellicose declarations that it will wipe Hamas off the face of the earth.”

    It’s a big deal and you can see the “Millstone around the world’s neck” of a “Pariah state”. Israel has a tranny army where your Jewish Mom can call your C.O. on the phone and demand you be nicer to her little boy. (Literally: wish I were kidding, it’s embarrassing.) Hamas is in 21st c warfare with dropping a $500 mortar on a $10M tank, and drones don’t have big-scale artillery factories that can be hit. Yet after having been savaged like no army had ever been savaged before Bakhmut, Israel remained supremely overconfident after 2014 and doubled down. On both trannies AND tanks. Then they added AI, so they’re REALLY stupid and losing. On the flip side ENTIRELY THANKS TO ISRAEL, Hamas and all of Gaza has nothing to lose. Really. If I lived there I would jump in front of a bullet too and call it a mercy. That is a SAVAGE fighting force, 4:1, 10:1 vs normal men pride parade metrosexuals who can go home and shop online and play PS2 later.

    can’t recall camera crews ever pursuing any zionist politicians down the street demanding that they use the word “condemn” of the latest Israeli atrocity. The paroxysm of hatred in the political and media class, unleashed by a single day of the boot being on the other foot is instructive.”

    Indeed. Makes me sick. Even Israel just having a war, using law of war, stealing everything and killing them all is better. They not only do this in an even WORSE way, if that is possible, but also try to conscript me in their crimes. I’ll follow General Washington’s example and say no.

    “move would be wise because it “jams the far right”– referring to Republicans who vocally support Israel but are skeptical of continued aid to Ukraine.”

    Forget the nations, it’s a diversion. Like Covid, they need the MONEY to flow. They don’t care who. They don’t care where or why. Israel is as good as Ukraine, doesn’t matter. Anywhere will work. It’s that or Babylon falls in hours.

    “• US Has Enough Weapons For Israel, Ukraine And More – Pentagon (RT)

    I read a very strange prophesy (casual one) where Russia is involved in a sorrowful war that really harms their people. I constantly note how extremely careful Putin is as well, indicating the same caution. Now DO YOU REALLY THINK the U.S. has no weapons? No shells, no guns, no tanks? I don’t. But I think we have them socked away in Salt Mines, DUMBs, like we did in Ukraine. We, London, are trying to SUCKER RUSSIA IN.

    “Oh we’re totally helpless, look at us a helpless, wounded bird, flap flap flap. Not at all like last time, not at all like WWI and II. This time you’re totally winning.” Uh-huh. Sure pal. And what are those Energy Weapons you have tested and are on some ships that don’t NEED ammunition? What are the X-37s and Auroras circling the planet at night? Who’s flying the TicTac UFOs on the Navy official footage? Uh-huh. Suuuuuuuure the U.S. hasn’t invented anything in 50 years. Sure we haven’t. Not. A. Thing.

    So yes, we’re probably “Out” of 777s or whatever, because that’s so last century. “Out” being having enough for ourselves to get started with a factory. But “And then a miracle happened” and we “Just happened to invent” a secret James Bond toy that “Won the war” if WWIII with Russia really got going.

    …And Russia has them too. They’re not using their 6th gen jet, S-600, or their Scalar Tesla Death Ray that cooked the USS Cook.

    So when they say “We’re out of weapons” but “We have more than enough weapons”, you have to understand what they mean.

    What they, we, don’t have is support, intelligence, and will. They are morons, overconfident and hated by the people, who believe all their own bulls—t. Be careful because they WANT you to hate them, erase the government, and let them build the new one with no Bill of Rights. A Bill of Suggestions.

    “RFK Jr Announces Independent Run for President (Sp.)

    Speaking of all that, is RFK the only Peace candidate? Probably.

    “It takes impressive legal gymnastics to accuse a president and leave a vice-president alone for the same thing.”

    This does not bother the Left at all. They are incapable of understanding hypocrisy. The Right is so used to it and inured to lies that they barely notice either. You might have thought in 2000 that this sort of twist would be culture-breaking but turns out it’s a zero. A ripple. There are many lies but only one truth.

    ““The Bidens had only one family business. They did not make furniture or sell groceries. They sold influence”

    Same thing. No one cares, not even the Right, really.

    “our country is as broke as broke can be..”

    What does “Broke” mean? Your money means nothing to me. It’s only what we ACTUALLY are and own, the physical THINGS that create our wealth or poverty. (Including our skills and work ethic) We can default and re-start our currency in hours, having everything we built already. The only thing we would lack is to BORROW to make RUINOUS WARS. …And then owe all that money to a very small subset of people.

    Countries don’t go bankrupt if you can’t invade and occupy them.

    You thinking of invading? Thanks to Obama and Joe they sold another 100 million guns. WE are the country. WE are the government. (Please act like it)

    John Day

    @Curlene 48: I appreciated your description of RFK Jr’s speech, which you attended, your reflection upon how different it was from his militaristic support of Israel which “he” tweeted/”X”d, and your statement that you can’t support him on moral grounds, though his positions are 90% good, except for that.

    Depersonalization of abstracted groups of people is where genocide begins.
    None of us should do that, because it is giving ourselves over to evil.


    • Hamas Using Weapons Given To Ukraine – Medvedev

    Early on in Project Ukronaziland©, Russian agents bought an entire French Caesar self propelled howitzer for pennies on the dollar.


    It demonstrated not only the utter depraved corruption of Ukronaziland©, the most corrupt country in The Garden©, but also showed their was no accounting, no audit trail for the billions in aid flushed down the Ukronazi rat hole.

    So hey, does it come as a shock these weapons are leaking out?

    Wait until Hamas has hundreds of manpads, drones and ATGMs

    Israelis are not Ubermen.

    They can be blown up just like Ukronazis when their opponent has access to equal weapons.

    Gaza will be much, much, much harder to occupy than Bahkmut where the Ukronazis lost 70k+

    These same ‘lost’ weapons from Ukronaziland will also show up in spades in Eurotardistan, just in time for it’s Winter of Discontent.

    A group of Ukro soldiers tired of the utter corruption of their officer class and Nazilensky et al made a video to show their contempt.

    They’ve had it with Kiev.

    Their officer’s remains are being taken home in style


    Can the US Support Two Wars? w/Col Doug Macgregor


    Angelina Mason, representing the Bankers Association, testified during the hearing.

    Mason outlined that while the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) supplied a list of names, banks were also mandated by separate orders to exercise their judgment in identifying account holders for debanking.

    The narrative grew murkier when New Democrat MP Daniel Blaikie queried about the fate of individuals who were debanked but never featured on the list provided to the RCMP.

    Mason’s one-word response was a stark “Yes

    Canada Has ‘Debanked’ Hundreds of Citizens, Report Shows


    This is from “greenalba” over at Kunstler’s clusterfuck nation (comments).
    I don’t know the context of the picture- but I saw what she was hinting at pretty quickly.


    I had to view the photo in Brave, btw. Safari wouldn’t load it.


    Jewish history lessons from citizenx. reply #144488.
    Leadership are not trustworthy and are betraying the people/their followers.

    I must be an introvert.
    I have a low herd motivation to survive.
    I do not feel the need to belong to “clubs, political parties, religious group, or other groups, associations and to be a fanatic sport fan or demonstrator”.

    Hate/fear clubs outnumber peace clubs.
    Trudeau has lost control of the message and is pissed off.

    Trudeau condemns ‘glorification of violence’ in protests after Hamas attacked Israel
    Kyaw Soe Oo and Kanishka Singh
    Mon, October 9, 2023 at 5:44 p.m.

    “I strongly condemn the demonstrations that have taken place, and are taking place, across the country in support of Hamas’ attacks on Israel,” Trudeau said in a post on X, formerly called Twitter.

    “The glorification of violence is never acceptable in Canada,” he added.
    security failures
    • Hamas’ Attack on Israel Is Puzzling (Paul Craig Roberts)

    Hamas’ Attack on Israel Is Puzzling



    Macgregor said an interesting thing.

    He said Russia stopped Iran from sending any game changing weapons into Syria for Hezbollah.

    He said Russia told Iran and Hezbollah if they did they would not have Russia’s protection.

    So Russia is disappointed to say the least that Israeli intelligence is actively assisting the UkroNAZIS on their doorstep.

    (who said Jews don’t identify with Nazis)

    One good deed deserves another?

    Maybe Russia gives the nod to Hezbollah and Iran to start another northern front in Israel.

    Macgregor says Israel will be in dire straits fighting two fronts.

    Just sayin’

    The Markster

    Agreed with John Day on depersonalization and the pre-genocidal comic book binaries that our imperial media and politicians love so much. Bobby Jr. Lost my support yesterday, and the campaign t-shirts and hoodies will to a salvage shop on Saturday.

    The plan for a decade now was to leave the internet and car culture behind effective September 2024. Might need to up the timeline a bit, as engaging in the politics of the sad, dying death cult all around us is looking less and less like civic engagement, education or service and more and more like a wasteful, masturbatory indulgence.

    Mr. House

    “None of us should do that, because it is giving ourselves over to evil.”

    That and many of us have exp. it first hand the past six years or so.


    I had a terrible feeling when Hamas attacked Isr. What good would come of it, the only hope (as I posted before) would be to draw in others (Hezbollah, Iran, possibly Turkey..)

    Paul Craig Roberts (top post) *speculates* that Hamas was spurred – infiltrated – manipulated to attack viciously, thus providing an excuse for Isr. and Net-yahoo to finish off the Pal. problem via whatever means, taking territory, killing off the natives, etc.

    PCR makes an analogy with 9/11 (security services / intell / etc. ‘stood down’, in a typical false flag) but that is not a good comparison. 9/11 was a devastating attack (ppl died, yes, horrible) run by a small-ish Kabal who risked nothing. (Narrativ Kontrol.)

    Hamas fighters – thousands, all motivated, can’t be compared to 19 shadowy mythical figures with box-cutters on hand.

    Note, killing ppl via far-off (as seen on TV) explosion / demolition / air-plane downings, all of which can be ‘manipulated’ in the official accounts and news, is not comparable to going out on the street and murdering civilians, women and children, leaving their bodies on the ground, and taking hostages, threatening to cut their heads off.

    The former is movie-like, meme-prepared since a long time, it is distant, yet horrific it is felt, ppl’s hearts and minds are affected.

    The relatives of the dead… looked insincere to me at the time, but who knows…

    link no. 1 top of Goog ABC news, pay-offs to families of 9/11:

    9/11 Families, Except One, Receive Over $7 Billion

    Aug. 2011. https://tinyurl.com/2bvuxpce

    PCR (ok! a short post) doesn’t mention that the diversion of attention away from the investment, funding, commitment, etc. to Zelensky as the installed puppet in UKR, by an attack on the Most Holy Israel supported endlessly by the ‘Collective West’ – > is working fine with the MSM in concert…

    Peter 47

    I can not open the rest of the article by Craig Murray


    When I am playing a better chess player – which is not hard to find – rather than responding to threats by putting my pieces in safety, I create a new threat of my own, the object not even being to pursue that specific line of attack, but to build up so many interconnected threats that when the tension breaks and a bloodbath ensues, my opponent (hopefully) cannot think any more moves ahead than I can – too much going on, too many countermoves to make. Then my lesser intellect might catch an opportunity through momentary insight from a menu of 5 or so different options that appear. Maybe.

    Africa and now Israel – is someone widening the war with these? Or was French Africa a move by one side and Israel is the countermove? Was Israel a simultaneous move by BOTH sides, the way Icebreaker asserts that the USSR and Germany were almost simultaneously going to attack each other, their plans perhaps days apart?

    D Benton Smith

    The recently commenced war of attrition against Israel by it’s numerous friends and neighbors is going to play out like the one just field-tested in Ukraine, but maybe a little quicker this iteration because Israel has a much smaller population, far fewer brain-washed shock troops (trained from birth to be IDF in Zionist cult-camps such as Kibbutz Be’eri) . . . . and virtually no way to replace them as they and their formidable weaponry gets attritioned away by never-ending attacks that are too serious to ignore but too small to use nukes on.

    D Benton Smith

    I just hate it when wonderfully eloquent and concise figures of speech get overused so frequently that they’re all worn out by the time that the perfect occasion to use them finally rolls around.
    Example: With friends like the USA, who needs enemies? (or substitute Israel or England in place of the USA). If friends ever deserved each other it would have to be that bunch. Makes me want to take a hot scrubbing shower just to think of the vile things they have each done under the pretense of virtue.


    I can not open the rest of the article by Craig Murray

    There doesn’t appear to be a paywall on his site.

    D Benton Smith

    The best and most truthfully astute rant that I’ve heard so far. Take it away………..Scott Ritter : https://youtu.be/8Ti1dKRz53k?si=DeYH7CCJEGAfJUV7


    I’ll follow General Washington’s example and say no.
    Be careful because they WANT you to hate them, erase the government, and let them build the new one with no Bill of Rights. A Bill of Suggestions.

    Duly noted. General Washington also raised an army and fought back…along with a new Bill of Rights.
    Difficult to seperate War and Hate when it comes down to it.

    Depersonalization of abstracted groups of people is where genocide begins.
    None of us should do that, because it is giving ourselves over to evil.

    Also duly noted.
    ‘War is Hell’ yes? Essentially War is an act of hatred yes?
    Killing and murder are defined differently. Killing can also be an act of Love if you are ending misery and suffering that cannot be healed. As noted in the broken bone of a human being that was tended to centuries ago- the act of healing, which wounded animals are not privy to of their own devices.

    Israel just declared they are “fighting animals” and have chosen to genocide them. Openly stated.
    Some might say Palestinians are wounded humans (jews call them animals) that deserve humane care and healing.

    Killing as an act of evil, in a war that is hell.
    Does that make you evil at heart to commit an evil act of killing in war, or in self defense?

    Hopefully most of us will never have to kill in war or self defense. Does fighting against those who are committing genocide make you evil too? If you are ‘lucky’ in war or self defense where killing is involved- you can ponder that answer afterward.

    I do not like the idea of killing anything. I catch and release bugs and abhor torture.
    Hear this- I Hate the idea or reality of torturing. Our own Govt took on a torture program-

    So yes I will accept hatred (in myself) and committing evil acts against a group or groups who are responsible for murder, torture, organized crimes against humaity etc….

    If to end these things one must commit evil acts to end evil, then so be it. I don’t pick, start or continue fights of aggression. We all have the right to defend ourselves, and others who cannot defend themselves. The Spiritual Warrior may have to commit evil acts to defend Love.

    A few Waterloo quotes to ponder-

    Our army is composed of the scum of the earth – the mere scum of the earth.

    Duke of Wellington

    You can decide to invade Russia at dinner, pick Waterloo for battle on a whim. It’s the details, the small stuff. Its easy to gamble a million lives. Whats hard is to see how that can hurt one single person. And if you cant keep that straight, hell, you’ll lose your humanity.
    Dwight D. Eisenhower

    Duke of Wellington:

    Next to a battle lost, the saddest thing is a battle won.

    Napoleon Bonaparte:

    Never interrupt your enemy while he’s making a mistake. That’s bad manners.


    They lived their lives so vapidly- and borrowed so much to do it-
    Their debt compounded rapidly, ’til no one could eschew it.
    The only fix was endless war, and all the cash to fund it:
    “It’s all about morality!” said one more brainless pundit.
    So common sense and decency get scuttled by “the brave”
    And all the world gets shoved into a nameless, early grave.

    Michael Reid

    World in chaos w/ Jeffrey Sachs

    space between dot and com

    https://rumble. com/v3o8u41-world-in-chaos-w-jeffrey-sachs-live.html


    We all have an “IMPORTANT/PRIORITY SCALE”.

    1. Life with no pain. (Therefore, you body is working the way it was designed/intended.)
    2. Enough food/water on the table.
    3. Regular bowl movement and urinating.

    …… way down
    …. war of hate in Ukraine and Irael.


    Don’t need to work hard if you work smart.
    Same as in war.
    Get someone else to do it.
    A proxies wars – Mercenaries.
    USA/Iran’s strategy, to win without fighting.

    D Benton Smith


    When you’re not hitting the nail on the head you’re knocking the ball out of the park, and when you’re not doing one or the other you’re doing both at once. Like this time.


    You use a small incursion and kill a few thousand to create your reaction which kills millions. The jews taught us that 22 years ago. and are playin it again, same script. War by deception is their fucking motto. Tamudic satanism runs this world using their money and media. Any questtions about you politicians loyalty should be answered now, they all kiss isrealass. As this hollywood grade spectecle unravlled all i could think about was the USS Liberty, the dead sailors who no one gave a fuck about. We are all Palestinians in a worldwide prison camp.

    Figmund Sreud

    Israeli says to American stopped by Israeli police: “The Godly thing to do is to kill you.”


    John Day

    Broad Appeal Of War https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/broad-appeal-of-war

    Simplicius has this broad contextual overview, which is also detailed. I will say that this is looking more and more like Sarajevo 1914, when Archduke Ferdinand was assassinated, and all of the countries used interlocking alliance treaties to willingly enter into what became WW-1, something none of them (except perhaps international bankers) envisioned as being as long, destructive and counterproductive as it was to all of them (except international bankers, including the new Federal Reserve Bank).
    Israeli Flashpoint – Localized Skirmish? Or the Beginning of Major Global Black Swan?

    ​ All Palestinians are faced with Benjamin Netanyahu promoting his “final solution” of eliminating any Palestinian entity from “greater Israel”, including all lands taken by force in the 1967 war, including from Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine. They have daily suffered violence and eviction from their lands, torture and imprisonment without any hope of redress since 1967.
    The well planned and orchestrated attacks of Hamas were known by Egypt, which warned Mossad, and was ignored. Netanyahu would get his “final solution” of complete elimination of Palestine and genocide of Palestinains.
    European Israeli Jews with more liberal and secular politics could blame Netanyahu for things going bad. There are reports that Mossad filtered intelligence it gave to Netanyahu, overplaying advantage and underplaying risk. (Of course the regrettable deaths of some Israeli Jews, especialy those attending a peace-rally near Gaza, might become necessary sacrifices in this Pearl-Harbor-III scenario.)
    ​ Netanyahu’s “New Stage” of “The Long War” against Palestine
    ​ Netanyahu’s stated objective, which constitutes a new stage in the 75 year old war (since Nakba, 1948) against the people of Palestine is no longer predicated on “Apartheid” or “Separation”. This new stage –which is also to directed against Israelis who want peace– consists in “total appropriation” as well as the outright exclusion of the Palestinian people from their homeland:
    ​ “These are the basic lines of the national government headed by me [Netanyahu]: The Jewish people have an exclusive and unquestionable right to all areas of the Land of Israel. The government will promote and develop settlement in all parts of the Land of Israel — in the Galilee, the Negev, the Golan, Judea and Samaria.” (Netanyahu January 2023. emphasis added)
    ​ We bring to the attention of our readers the incisive analysis of Dr. Philip Giraldi pointing to the likelihood of a “False Flag’”.

    Is the Gaza-Israel Fighting “A False Flag”? They Let it Happen? Their Objective Is “to Wipe Gaza Off the Map”?

    Benjamin Netanyahu Blamed by Top Israel Newspaper in Scathing Attack​ (Haaretz blames Netanyahu generally, not specifically, but does not absolve him specifically.)

    There is another report that Mossad relied very heavily upon A.I. monitoring of communications signals and live camera footage of Gaza, and that this was known to Hamas, which was able to keep the camera and cellphone feeds stable, while carrying out actions in preparation for war, which were invisible to A.I. This is intriguing, and would be a part of modern insurgent warfare, a new iteration, but like “spoofing a drane” by altering its GPS communications, and making it land, as Iran did to a US drone over a decade ago.

    SCOTT RITTER: Israel’s Massive Intelligence Failure

    John Day

    Iranian Diplomat denies before-the-fact knowledge of Hamas attack, which is probably true for him. Others in Iran might not have known the specific date and time, but Iran has long supported the Palestinian cause in every way that it could, including military support, and military technical assistance, teaching them how to manufacture artillery rockets mounted on trucks, for instance. Iran does not want to invite American and Israeli joint attacks upon their country, but might see it as inevitable, and be prepared to prevail when the inevitable attacks come. Iran might reasonably presume that the Israeli/US hegemon will not capitulate without expending its arsenal upon Iran.

    Syria has launched missiles into the Golan Heights, occupied by Israel since 1967, but part of Syria, so this is taken as a message that Syria may choose to attack militarily, but it is not an attack upon Israel-proper. Hezbollah made a similar attack yesterday or the day before on Sheba Farms, which is in the Golan heights, and is technically Lebanese, but occupied by Israel since 1967.
    Syria Launches Missiles On Golan Heights As US To Begin ‘Surging’ Defense Aid To Israel

    Egypt has been paid to not attack Israel in various ways since the 1973 Yom Kippur War 50 years ago, and notified Israel that “something big was coming” a couple of weeks ago, which was reportedly ignored. Egypt is not declaring any intention to change that arrangement, but is bound to be considering it. Egypt can’t take 2 million refugees.
    ​ Outrage After Israel Told Gazans To Flee To Egypt, Then Bombed Lone Border Crossing
    ​ On Tuesday morning Israel bombed the Rafah crossing in the Gaza Strip, which is the only border crossing that Palestinians are able to use to flee to Egypt.
    Hamas has claimed that the crossing has now been rendered impassable. “The Israel Defense Forces said Tuesday afternoon that it hit an underground tunnel for smuggling weapons and equipment in the Rafah area, on the Egypt-Gaza border, but did not confirm or deny hitting the crossing itself,” the Times of Israel is reporting.

    ​ There is so much which is broken in government, and there are so many crimes and failures. The financial system is in an exponential phase of monetary expansion, and the end is in sight, which is systemic collapse/default. That has to be managed in a World War. There is not some other system to manage it. Meanwhile, political circus…
    ​ White House hopes to merge Ukraine and Israel aid ​ , The measure could push Republicans to support new assistance for Kiev

    ​Paul Craig Roberts, Can the World Afford the Insane Foreign Policy of America’s Satanic Neoconservatives?​
    We are on the verge of nuclear annihilation. Every agreement made during the 20th century to reduce the risk of nuclear war has been abandoned by Washington…
    ​..In the US the constant propaganda against Russia (and now China) has convinced many Americans that they face the danger of nuclear attack. This is not a situation in which a false alarm is likely to be recognized. The risk of not believing the alarm is much higher in the environment created by the American neoconservatives, who have controlled US foreign policy in the 21st century.
    ​ In US foreign policy and military ranks there are some, especially among the military/security-funded think tanks, who believe, automatically it seems with no evidence required, that the US, being the greatest and most powerful country ever, would win a nuclear war. This belief exists despite the total absence of any US preparation for surviving a nuclear war, assuming such a war is survivable. The most likely outcome would be nuclear winter, a situation in which dust from the massive explosions block the sunlight and the entire world starves to death.
    ​ Ask yourself, just how insane, how Satanic do neoconservatives have to be to think that their totally unrealistic pursuit of US global hegemony is worth such a risk?
    ​ The minute the Soviet Union collapsed politically when hardline communists arrested President Gorbachev, the neoconservatives penned the Wolfowitz Doctrine, which states that the principle goal of US foreign policy is to prevent the rise of any power that could constrain American hegemony. It is this absurdly unrealistic neoconservative doctrine, not Russian or Chinese behavior, that has resurrected the threat of nuclear Armageddon.
    ​ The threat is very real. Those who dismiss it are utter and total fools. They are psychopaths. They are insane. They risk the life of the planet. It is the neoconservatives who are the worst danger to life the world has ever faced. Why does Congress put up with them? Why does the Senate confirm them in office? Why is the American media their propagandist? Why do the UK, European, and Japanese governments tolerate such enormous risks imposed by a handful of insane psychopaths?

    Can the World Afford the Insane Foreign Policy of America’s Satanic Neoconservatives?

    John Day

    Will There Be a 2024 Presidential Election?​ (​I don’t think the current power structure can​ allow Americans to vote for Kennedy or Trump, even with vote-rigging.)

    Will There Be a 2024 Presidential Election?

    ​ Russia has good diplomatic relations with Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Israel. Russia does not want nuclear war to break out.
    The US practices brinkmanship and bombast. And does not want those parties cooperating with each other.
    Moscow blasts US approach to Israel-Palestine violence

    ​Military Summary for yesterday (Gaza): WW3 | Carpet Bombing Of Gaza. Escalation With Hezbollah. Military Summary And Analysis For 2023.10.9

    Military Summary today Gaza): Buildings In Gaza Are Folding Like Houses Of Cards Under Israeli Fire. Military Summary 2023.10.10

    Craig Murray, Now We Have Your Attention
    ​ There have been decades of photos of dead Palestinian women and children, and kids being beaten, humiliated and imprisoned by Israeli soldiers. The historic killing rate in this “conflict” has been fairly consistent at about 40:1.
    ​ None of this ever caused more than a raised eyebrow and a mild tut-tut from the western “liberal” Establishment. I can’t recall camera crews ever pursuing any zionist politicians down the street demanding that they use the word “condemn” of the latest Israeli atrocity.
    ​ The paroxysm of hatred in the political and media class, unleashed by a single day of the boot being on the other foot is instructive. It is particularly instructive in their near complete unanimity – what percentage of the discussion on broadcast TV or radio have you heard this last 48 hours given over to Palestinian or pro-Palestinian voices?

    Now We Have Your Attention

    John Day

    This Greek language military site explains how Iran helped Hamas develop a domestic artillery-rocket manufacturing industry, so that most of the rockets launched into Israeli cities recently have been locally produced.

    John Helmer has important historical context and brings it to bear. There is a precedent.


    Gilbert Doctorow, Russians pound Avdeevka with heavy bombs. Can the awaited Russian offensive be approaching?​ [“FAB” fuel-air bombs are “bigger” per pound.]
    The bombing of Avdeevka today, like the reported destruction of a major Ukrainian command post by 1.5 ton bombs a couple of days ago, would suggest the “softening up” phase before a major ground offensive.
    ​ In any case, with or without a ground offensive, the Russians’ move to aerial bombing with 1.5 ton and possibly soon with 5 ton guided bombs signifies a change which Kiev, London and Washington seem not to have anticipated. It is a campaign that can easily be continued during the rainy season and roadless conditions of late autumn in Ukraine which Western commentators had assumed would force the sides to slow the war effort, giving Washington the opportunity to restock Ukraine with weapons, advisers and so on in preparation of renewed military activity in the spring. The West can now put paid to that scenario, it would seem.

    Russians pound Avdeevka with heavy bombs. Can the awaited Russian offensive be approaching?

    ​Military Summary has details. Russia takes the initiative: The Russians Breakthrough North Of Avdiivka | Wagner Is Back. Military Summary 2023.10.10

    Finland says ‘outside activity’ likely damaged gas pipeline, telecoms cable
    ​ The Balticconnector gas pipeline was shut early on Sunday on concerns that gas was leaking from a hole in the 77-km (48-mile) pipeline. Finnish operator Gasgrid said it could take months or more to repair.
    ​ “It is likely that damage to both the gas pipeline and the communication cable is the result of outside activity. The cause of the damage is not yet clear, the investigation continues in cooperation between Finland and Estonia,” Finnish President Sauli Niinisto said in a statement on Tuesday…
    ​..Finland last year leased a floating storage and regasification unit (FSRU) to receive liquefied natural gas (LNG), replacing supplies from Russia which were cut in the wake of Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine.​..
    ​ Much of Finland’s LNG imports come from the United States, LSEG data shows.
    Situated at Inkoo, the Exemplar FSRU vessel has supplied gas to Estonia via the Balticconnector.
    ​ “(It’s) not a big deal for Estonia and Latvia because a lot of their gas is stored in Latvian storage, but Finns will not be able to get their gas from Latvian storage,” said a source with direct knowledge of Baltic gas supplies.
    ​ Finland has a second LNG import terminal in Hamina, and “the continuity of gas supply is secured in the coming winter season,” national operator Gasgrid said in a statement.


    According to USA.

    We do not have any info that Iran involved in this attack.
    Anyone else thinking to get involved with Amas. DON’T!
    Gaza/Amas did an unprovoked attack on Israel.
    Russia did an unprovoked attacked on Ukraine.

    According to Israel.
    The 2.5 million Citizen of Gaza should leave before the bombs destroy everything.


    There is an EXCELLENT interview with Professor Norman Finkelstein on last night’s Jimmy Dore show. The show of 10/9/23. Not sure how to post a link to the show, but do try to watch it, either on YouTube or Rumble. Finkelstein discusses the reality of the Gaza strip, an open-air prison in which at least half its residents were born. This guy is very knowledgeable about the history of Palestine and Israel. (Jimmy himself doesn’t host this show, guest host is Craig Pasta Jardula.)
    Others who persist in telling the truth about Palestine: Max Blumenthal and his crew at the Gray Zone, and Glenn Greenwald on his System Update show.



    Alarm as Israel again hits Rafah border crossing between Gaza and Egypt
    The third attack on the crossing’s Palestinian side in the last 24 hours consisted of ‘four missiles’, reports say.

    On Monday, Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant ordered a “total blockade” of Gaza, cutting access to water, food, fuel and electricity. Such a siege of Gaza by the Israeli army, with the intent to starve a population, is a war crime under United Nations statutes.

    Figmund Sreud

    Postcards from the End – Linh Dinh

    Still Serene on the Eastern Front

    … loooong snip:

    […]”Minus Israel, Lebanon and Syria can finally heal, and the entire Middle East will breathe easier. Some countries, though, may be beyond salvation. Killing for Jews all these decades, they’ve brought it upon themselves.

    Last month, I emailed Beth in Philly, “You should stop deferring to Jews and their outrageous crimes. By fearing them so much, you are complicit in what they’ve done to Palestinians, other Arabs, Ukrainians, Europeans and Americans. Stop siding with these genocidal criminals. By making excuses for them, if only in your mind, you become a criminal.”

    By Jews, I mean those who embrace and deploy Jewish thinking. It’s an insanely racist, deviously divisive and genocidal ideology. The last is its bedrock. If you’re born Jewish, who cares? If you’re a Jew in spirit or honorary Jew, may God help you.

    Syrian Girl has just posted a video of Jews urinating on Palestinian corpses, whom they had just murdered, then stripped naked. Favored by a most spiteful, genocidal god, they’re free to grab land, massacre, swindle, poison and orchestrate wars, so a bit of corpse abuse is hardly worth noticing. Only hateful anti-Semites niggle.




    Jewish Israeli Nation would not exist were it not for the British Empire and US Govt roles.

    The British Empire created the foundation for the Jewish state. A foundation based on treating Palestinians as human trash, and giving their Land directly to the Jews. The Jews used the protection of the British Empire to steal the land, murder and cruelly subjucate its inhabitants. The US Govt has supported the Jewish theft and genocide fully post WW2. Without the protection of the US Govt and British Empire, the Jew State of Israel would not and could not exist.

    The US Govt post WW2 is responsible for more death and destruction globally than any single genocide in the History of human(kind). The US Govt has killed more humans on the planet with it’s military adventurism than any other Govt or nation on the planet.

    Technically one may claim that the deaths from US wars were not genocidal. Does that matter?
    Those who claim that one cannot single out a particular group, or it’s just some bad apples, or targeting particular communities and speaking poorly of them are the roots of genocide-

    How do you not see that it is the US Govt, British Empire, and the Jewish nation State that are the primary actors of the Gaza genocide that has been going on for decades?

    How can you say with a straight face that the US Govt is not the root of evil that has killed more humans around the planet than any other Nation? That it is not the American people that are behind the US Govt blindly feigning ignorance?

    Are you simply ignorant of US History and its Global wars of aggression to steal and control resources while profiting from those Wars? Are you unwilling to look in the mirror and accept the truth that your own Govt are mass murderers and you are a part of that by ‘going quietly along’ while pointing your fingers at others ?

    D Benton Smith


    Are you unwilling to look in the mirror and accept the truth that your own Govt are mass murderers and you are a part of that by ‘going quietly along’ while pointing your fingers at others ?”

    Are you claiming that murder victims are as guilty as their killer because of their “going quietly along” with their crime by dying?

    By that logic then we are ALL guilty (and evil), equally, because none of us stopped the evil psychopaths from being evil psychopaths, and now here we all are . . . being governed by evil psychopaths. I dunno, maybe you’re right, but answer me this, how do you propose that we stop them from being evil psychopaths? I sure hope it’s not some kind of psychopathically evil method because that just leads back to the problem we started off with in the first place.

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