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ParticipantPertinent question:
How is the only way to reach herd immunity through a vaccine that doesn't provide immunity?
Explain it to me like I'm two.
— Bethany Cherisse (@BethanyCherisse) September 17, 2021
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ParticipantWe don’t know what the white gunk in our poison is, but don’t worry, it’s “safe and effective.”
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ParticipantFDA doesn’t approve boosters for the general population (will probably change after the CDC meeting next week), but does approve for over 65s and immunocompromised. Sigh. This fall is going to be rough for the poked.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fda-advisors-meet-decide-booster-jabs-science-remains-uncertain
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Participant“This is a remarkable sign that the project of government-managed virus mitigation is in the final stages before falling apart.”
That’s my hope, but my hunch is (given the propensity of gov to “help” and not leave alone) that the FDA officials resigning will be heretofore called “disgruntled” and the beat will march on.
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ParticipantThis is where we’re headed… pic.twitter.com/Gxgx1bCtM9
— Joan Salas (@JoanSal48196677) September 9, 2021
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ParticipantKunstler:
“I surf through all the major cable news channels, of course, to detect the textures, flavors, and odors of the American zeitgeist — the spirit of the times. It’s a harsh, sour thing these days, with overtones of dead skunk wrapped in a used diaper and dipped in vinegar, almost impossible to choke down and process, like being trapped in a room where evil dwells in a bad dream. It’s gotten so that some of us are beginning to wonder about actually living in the presence of true evil. As embodied, say, by “Joe Biden,” the ghostly figure said to be chief executive of the US government — but apparently in the service of forces and entities outside these fifty states.”

I too expect them to go full-on Exorcist pretty soon.
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ParticipantThough I’m pretty hard on Doctors given my past treatment, I would like to commend Dr. Day as well. It’s really too bad you can’t come here, as the clinic I go to seems to have relaxed the vaccine pressure. Please keep fighting for your patients, even if it’s in an unorthodox fashion (such as private practice from your home). We need those like you who keep the Hippocratic Oath to do no harm. Those doctors are few and far between nowadays.
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Participant“Listen to the voices of unvaccinated Americans who are lying in hospital beds, taking their final breath,”
Question: WHAT unvaccinated Americans lying in hospital beds? Sure isn’t me, nor do I know any unvaccinated in hospital beds, nor have I seen them when I needed a service in a hospital (MRI)?. Maybe in rural areas with phantom gunshot victims? Or the ones with dancing nurses? Because I haven’t seen them.
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ParticipantHard to see how all this holds together when Xiden just declared war on 80 million Americans, many of them young, but we shall see.
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Participant“Someone will do something stupid, and when they do, things will turn nasty.”
This just happened and federal officers are already coming out against it.
Cause and effect. We may have seen reason for the effect today with Biden’s speech, but we shall see what the effect is going forward.
Joe Biden threatens to get elected state leaders "out of the way." pic.twitter.com/Q3WdtGlrYT
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) September 9, 2021
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ParticipantPsucki and “my body, my choice.” She’s circling back. To where I don’t know.
Psaki runs away like her disgrace of a boss when a reporter asks her "what happened to my 'body, my choice' when it comes to vaccinations?"
WATCH THIS. pic.twitter.com/vA043ziipw
— Benny (@bennyjohnson) September 9, 2021
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ParticipantFlips bird to Biden
BREAKING: President Biden says his 'patience is wearing thin' with unvaccinated Americans:
"What more is there to wait for? What more to do you need to see? We've been patient, but our patience is wearing thin and your refusal has cost all of us." pic.twitter.com/XcALP2MrQB
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) September 9, 2021
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ParticipantWell, given our betters are acting like the Golgafrincham PMC in Douglas Adams, “The End of the Universe” portion of the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, that guess is as good as any.
Under the heading “Too Dumb to Live”:
“The Golgafrinchams colonizers are all defined by having skills pointless to society and just being generally dumb and crazy. They were all easily tricked by the rest of their race into evacuating the planet where they crash-land on prehistoric Earth. From then on they prioritize holding meetings, filming documentaries and basic hammer-to-nail logic to get by; considering how one markets fire over actually building it, deciding what color the wheel should be before they actually invent it, declaring war on an uninhabited continent and making leaves into currency (and burning down the forests to stop inflation when changing the currency would be easier). Curiously, the fact that their descendants would become modern-day Humanity makes their idiocy seems less detrimental to their own survival as it is to everything else, the native neanderthals eventually going extinct.”
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ParticipantI do remember the credit downgrade, but even then they only spoke about the threat of default and not actually letting it default or “on track to default”.
Just have this feeling we’re onto the next stage of their attempt at the “Great Reset” since the repo market bazooka, along with the last crash in 2020 meant they were running out of schemes to kick the can down the road any farther. But if our overlords are anything they certainly are creative and lots of gullibles would still go along with the next leg down. That said, they really don’t have many tools left to avoid an outcome that isn’t worst case scenario.
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Participant“I think I can safely say that we have TEOTWAWKI.”
I’d actually feel fine if I could leave Florida and find a nice farm to work on where my paternal side lives.
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ParticipantDoes anyone else have the sense that given the “default” word has been introduced out in the open by TPTB the actual default isn’t far behind? One, from the events that Dr. D noted, and two, they unleashed north of $6 trillion in deficit spending for 2020 (though actual could be higher or lower), but need to wait for everyone to be jabbed and we critical thinkers are holding up the announcement? That would mean there’s a new “shutdown” coming to blame the financial crash on COVID.
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Participant“I don’t choose my science based on my political leanings.”
And yet, you took the Trump Warp Speed COVID death jab. Way to go.
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ParticipantMr. House:
Probably right you are. NSA does tap tap, then about face.
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ParticipantBut wait!!! There’s more!!! Further mishmash from the new-woke ACLU:
“[Many claim that] vaccines are a justifiable intrusion on autonomy and bodily integrity. That may sound ominous, because we all have the fundamental right to bodily integrity and to make our own health care decisions. But these rights are not absolute. They do not include the right to inflict harm on others. . . . While vaccine mandates are not always permissible, they rarely run afoul of civil liberties when they involve highly infectious and devastating diseases like Covid-19. . . .”
When the vaxeed harm themselves from forced mandates, and harm others because the vaccines fail to reduce spread, when did “harm” become one-sided?
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ParticipantACLU, 2008:
“Not all public health interventions have been benign or beneficial, however. Too often, fears aroused by disease and epidemics have encouraged abuses of state power. Atrocities, large and small, have been committed in the name of protecting the public’s health.”
ACLU, 2021:
Far from compromising them, vaccine mandates actually further civil liberties. They protect the most vulnerable, people with disabilities and fragile immune systems, children too young to be vaccinated, and communities of color hit hard by the disease. https://t.co/UYfQY2EEqj
— ACLU (@ACLU) September 2, 2021
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ParticipantMaybe reply to Mr. House’s question? And do tell what led to your epiphany where you automatically began trusting the establishment that lies constantly. You mean to say they stopped lying when the lying was going so well? Do inform us.
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ParticipantNEW – Across the US chants of "F*** Joe Biden" have erupted at numerous college football games and other venues over the weekend.pic.twitter.com/2UZGbuXgz7
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) September 7, 2021
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ParticipantWe are becoming Gattaca. pic.twitter.com/XauGzuX5bS
— Brett R. Smith (@BrettRSmith76) September 7, 2021
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Participant“The Hippocratic Oath is very science-based. I am following the science. I’m applying this to the benefit of the sick.”
Funny how they edited out the “Do No Harm” portion of the Hippocratic Oath. You know who else liked to edit the oath? Nazi Doctors and Nurses, the most loyal groups of all to the Nazi cause.
“Persecution of Jews and other groups was not solely the result of measures originating with Adolf Hitler and other Nazi zealots. Nazi leaders required the active help or cooperation of professionals working in diverse fields who in many instances were not convinced Nazis. The German medical profession played a central role in shaping and implementing many Nazi policies. A high number of doctors and nurses supported the regime, and many became complicit in Nazi crimes. “
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-role-of-doctors-and-nurses
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ParticipantForgot to add that the study only accounted for the period up to May, so those increases in caseloads could be higher. The link so everyone doesn’t have to fish it out from yesterday.
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ParticipantChecked my link and it works fine for me. The article itself is a classic case of institutional doublespeak ,”rare” in “our study” that acknowledges data wasn’t collected properly, but also noting a 60-65% increase in monthly cases that doesn’t separate the vaxxed from the unvaxxed. The rise in cases pre-vax to post-vax periods does suggest at least an association between the vaccine and increases in cases of myocarditis and perocardiditis (especially in the young) outside of possible confounding factors such as the effects of lockdowns, masks, etc.
I’ve been going with Raul and our good doctors in that a strong immune system really is the best bet, as it is with every other coronavirus (including the common cold) and I’ve yet to have a really bad outcome or even know I’ve had it.
Your mileage my vary.
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Participant“We will need all the friends we can get (or the courage to die alone.”
Hoping for the former, expecting the latter, at least before it’s all said and done.
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ParticipantFrom OffGuardian;

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ParticipantSo let me guess, you like wearing winter coats in 90+ degree weather?
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ParticipantTinfoil, from Denninger’s comment section:
“The mean monthly number of cases of myocarditis or myopericarditis during the prevaccine period was 16.9 (95% CI, 15.3-18.6) vs 27.3 (95% CI, 22.4-32.9) during the vaccine period (P <.001). The mean numbers of pericarditis cases during the same periods were 49.1 (95% CI, 46.4-51.9) and 78.8 (95% CI, 70.3-87.9), respectively (P <.001).”
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2782900
Just off the top of my head (though my math is likely wrong it still appears to be much greater risk), it appears that the vaccinated are approximately 1.3 to 1.7 times more likely to get either condition after being vaccinated.
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ParticipantOkay, that’s weird, I had the italics around Mr. Roboto’s quote, yet the reverse shows.
Maybe a browser issue?
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ParticipantMister Roboto:
“The CNN article simply has to be satire. If it isn’t, then our entire media-complex should be ushered into an assisted-living facility for severely mentally-retarded people.”
Even though it is satire, our media should still be ushered into an assisted-living facility for severely mentally-retarded people. Shame we didn’t take that action after media figures showing their tentacle porn habits and zoom masturbation to a wide audience.
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Participantmpsk:
I saw that as well. I have family that lives nearby (about 30 minutes away) and I have to admit it made me smile too, as I’ve always wanted to live in the area.
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Participant@Mister Roboto
There really is not much difference between the WBC wish for homosexuals and some internet commenters’ wish for the unvaccinated to die. It’s not an exact analogy (yet), but close enough.
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ParticipantYeah, I’m having trouble with images too.
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ParticipantI’ll take the endorsement of Mr. Ed over pundits. At least Mr. Ed can tell whether something is safe and effective.

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ParticipantNote the hypocrisy in the “liberal” push for mandates.
“If you support such mandates or act in any way to promote or enforce them then you are a member of the “God Hates Fags” group — you’re just picking on a different set of people. Your position is no more defensible than theirs; indeed it is less-so since their advocacy was limited to waving signs where you demand that others lose their civil rights and liberties, means of earning a living and access to everyday life.”
But they’ll never see it.
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ParticipantWe’ve all heard the saying, “The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent,” but another truism is “Society can stay insane longer than you can stay angry.”
I’ve yet to be wrong on this. No matter how insane or irrational things get, most are just ho-hum, another day. Of course they’ll push harder when that is the case.
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