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You didn’t answer my question. Can the WHY be extracted from the billion coefficients in an LLM or is there something going on beyond coefficients and matrix multiplication. This is a simple question and doesn’t require an exposition of life, the universe and everything. You claimed that LLMs compute a WHY in some secret way and I’m asking you to explain how that works.DarkMatter
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“The LLM, that is to say the “model”, and complex software which interfaces with the model doesn’t just pick the best next word. It has computed WHY that word is the best next word.”Neural nets do a bunch of matrix multiplications. At the beginning they map language to vectors and at the end they map vectors to language. As far as I know that’s all they do. The WHY is embedded in the weights or coefficients of the matrices involved. In a large model there are billions of those coefficients. The fact that intelligible results come out is amazing. So what is your WHY claim based on? Are you saying someone understands all those coefficients in some meaningful way or is there some other neural net technology that does something besides matrix multiplications that they aren’t telling us about? I am most interested in your answer.
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ParticipantHe also promised that “help is on its way,” and deployed a “beautiful armada” to the region…
Yes, he’s calling it an armada. But then history never was Trump’s strong suit.
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ParticipantIsaac Asimov wrote The Feeling of Power in 1958. In that future humans forget how to do arithmetic and when a guy discovers it no one believes him but eventually they see its military potential.
https://ia800806.us.archive.org/20/items/TheFeelingOfPower/The%20Feeling%20of%20Power.pdf
Here’s an excerpt:
“Computing without a computer,” said the President impatiently, “is a contradiction in
terms.”
“Computing,” said the Congressman, “is only a system for handling data. A machine
might do it, or a human brain might. Let me give you an example.” And using the new
skills he had learned, he worked out sums and products until the president, despite
himself, grew interested.
“Does this always work?”
“Every time, Mr. President. It is foolproof.”
“Is it hard to learn?”
“It took me a week to get the real hang of it. I think you would do better.
“Well,” said the President, considering, “it’s an interesting parlor game, but what is the
use of it?”
“What is the use of a newborn baby, Mr. President? At the moment there is no use, but
don’t you see that this points the way toward liberation from the machine? Consider, Mr.
President,” the congressman rose and his deep voice automatically took on some of the
cadences he used in public debate, “that the Denebian war is a war of computer against
computer. Their computers forge an impenetrable shield of counter-missiles against our
missiles, and ours forge one against theirs. If we advance the efficiency of our computers,
so do they theirs, and for five years a precarious balance has existed.
“Now, we have in our hands a method of going beyond the computer, leapfrogging it,
passing through it. We will combine the mechanics of computation with human thought;
we will have the equivalent of intelligent computer, billions of them. I can’t predict what
the consequences will be in detail, but they will be incalculable. And if Deneb beats us to
the punch, they may be unimaginably catastrophic.”
The President said, troubled, “What would you have me do?”
“Put the power of the administration behind the establishment of a secret project on
human computation. Call it Project Number, if you like. I can vouch for my committee,
but I will need the administration behind me.”
“But how far can human computation go?”
“There is no limit. According to Programmer Shuman, who first introduce me to his
discovery-”
“I’ve heard of Shuman, of course.”
“Yes. Well, Dr. Shuman tells me that in theory there is nothing the computer can do that
the human mind cannot do. The computer merely takes a finite amount of data and
performs a finite number of operations upon them. Then human mind can duplicate the
process.”
The President considered that. He said, “If Shuman says this, I am inclined to believe in –
in theory. But in practice, how can anyone know how a computer works?”
Brant laughed genially. “Well, Mr. President, I asked the same question. It seems that at
one time computers were designed directly by human beings. Those were simple
computers, of course, this being before the time of the rational use of computers to design
more advanced computers had been established.
“Yes, yes. Go on.”
“Technician Aub apparently had, as his hobby, the reconstruction of some of these
ancient devices, and in so doing, he studied the details of their workings and found he
could imitate them. The multiplication I just performed for you is an imitation of the
workings of a computer.”
“Amazing!”
The congressman coughed gently. “If I may make another point, Mr. President – the
further we can develop this thing, the more we can divert our federal effort from
computer production and computer maintenance. As the human brain takes over, more of
our energy can be directed into peacetime pursuits and the impingement of war on the
ordinary man will be less. This will be most advantageous for the party in power, of
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ParticipantTulsi Gabbard could have been our next president. All she had to do was quit.
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ParticipantHere is the article called Sadly, Trump is Right on Ukraine referenced in the video
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If every possible numeric sequence is found in π you could digitize the entire universe in 3D down to the Planck length over its 14 billion year history in femtoseconds and that digitization would be found somewhere in π. Actually it would be found an infinite number of times in π. Humans can’t comprehend what infinite really means.DarkMatter
ParticipantThe multiplication trick only works if the first two digits sum to 10 and the last two digits are the same:
(10a+c)(10b+c) = 100ab + 10ac + 10bc + cc
= 100ab + 10(a+b)c + cc
= 100ab + 100c + cc
= 100(ab+c) + ccA trick of limited use
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ParticipantIn my zip code there were 1047 loans totaling $75M of which $42M were forgiven. A lot of the loans were to private individuals who were self employed and all kinds of businesses from restaurants to dog groomers also got money. The bigger the business the more you could get. Some got hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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ParticipantHere’s a link to where the Covid Payroll Protection Plan (PPP) money went.
I found that my neighbor got $20K for his renovation business and that a local collection agency got over $100K. The number of loans in my suburban zipcode was astounding.
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ParticipantI’m all for free speech but only if it’s human speech. Any comments that are AI generated should be deleted. I don’t want to read your interaction with AI. I prefer trolls to ChatGPT. AI posts are the margarine of online content.
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Participant“Explain to me again why student loan debt shouldn’t be cancelled.”
We don’t know the terms of the loan but using a mortgage calculator to find a similar situation if a 50 year $70,000 loan has an interest rate of 8% the payment would be $475 per month and the principal will still be $60,000 after 25 years. But if you pay an extra $100 a month you’ll pay of the entire loan in 21 years. I am guessing their degrees didn’t involve much math.
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ParticipantI was a math nerd who liked sports but wasn’t that good at them. Playing sports back then it was beaten into you that you had to play fair and follow the rules. Having worked in high tech for a long time with people from a lot of other countries they often don’t have that same ethic and take advantage where they can. I knew an immigrant (Celticbiker’s guess of her ethnicity would be correct) who said “You Americans are so stupid. You follow these stupid rules and get taken advantage of over and over.” Of course Americans following stupid rules is what made the working country she got to come to and take advantage of and her attitude will turn America into the hell hole she came from.
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ParticipantRKF Jr. has set up a website where you can suggest people to be part of the Trump administration. You can also vote on other people’s suggestion. Suggestions now include Peter McCullough (Health), Catherine Austin Fitts (Economy ) and Douglas McGregor (State).
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ParticipantHow about Venmo?
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Participant“If you can remotely detonate a pager then you can remotely detonate a cell phone.”
And an electric car. Anything with a Lithium Ion battery and a remote connection.
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ParticipantThe left can’t meme
The right can only memeDarkMatter
ParticipantWhen I saw the pictures of the opening ceremony I didn’t think of the last supper, I thought of Bacchus

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ParticipantIf Josh Shapiro really is the Democrat VP nominee and Harris/Shapiro are elected they can quickly dispose of Harris and Israel will finally have the US president they really want.
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ParticipantBack in the day a WW2 vet I knew as a kid said that in the pacific theater if you left camp and tried to return there was a daily password to get back in. One day the password was “What is the third verse of the Star Spangled Banner.” Anyone who could answer was shot. That’s a good Turing test too. Anyone who knows that is not human.
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Participant64 = 8*8, 8*5 = 40
81 = 9*9, 9*7 = 63
16 = 4*4, 4*4 = 16DarkMatter
ParticipantOf course if the order is not A – B – C – D -E you just reorder to columns and the same logic holds.
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ParticipantImpressed by apsnaz’s analysis I drew this to illustrate why his 7 horse solution is correct:
After the first 5 races and the race of the top in each group only the horses above the double line can possibly be one of the three fastest. A1 is already proven the fastest and there are only 5 other horses that need to be in the 7th race to determine 2nd and 3rd.
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ParticipantRick did it. There’s snow under his car so he’s been out.
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ParticipantThis just might be the most American thing I have ever heard of.
The “most American thing” was not the self-immolation itself but the peace officers responding by drawing their weapons. Reminds me of Fouad Kaady who was found naked and bloody in the road with his car on fire and who was then tazed and shot by peace officers within a minute of their arriving on the scene.
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Participant? = 17
9+6 = 15
2+4+7 = 13
1+3+5+2 = 11DarkMatter
ParticipantSaw a Reddit post about where to get the most recent booster in my city this was in the comments:
Just coming out of my second COVID infection (last one was a year ago). This kicked my ass almost as bad, and I’ve had four shots already. Whatever the current variant is, is really nasty. Though I know others who had much milder symptoms.
How long do you have to wait for a booster, after an infection?As Einstein said insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results.
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ParticipantThey have to keep Joe Biden as a candidate for president in 2024 until they can force RFK Jr. to go third party. If Joe folds before that, RFK Jr. will be in the debates and cause all kinds of problems. Once he has gone third party they can make Newsom the Democrat candidate knowing that RFK Jr. will get more Republican votes than Democrat votes and Newsom will be elected. To further hedge their bets they can take Joe out in 2024, make Newsom the VP and then have Harris resign. Then Newsom can run as the incumbent, war President. But they have to prop Joe up until RFK Jr. makes his move.
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Participant… democrat callers would have none of it. Republican callers were delighted …
If 20204 is Trump vs Biden and RFK Jr goes third party he will take more votes from Trump than Biden. The Democrats must love this.
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Participant… democrat callers would have none of it. Republican callers were delighted …
If 20204 is Trump vs Biden and RFK Jr goes third party he will take more votes from Trump than Biden. Same with Desantis vs Newsom. The Democrats must love this.
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ParticipantHere is the answer to the puzzle according to WhatsApp
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Participant(5+5+10+4) x 2= 48
But order of operations evaluates multiplication before addition so
5+((5+10+4) x 2)= 43
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ParticipantMichael Angelo also sculpted the Madonna and Child, now in Bruges, Belgium. The same woman, only younger. Also not possible.

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