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Susceptibility measurements put us on the the door step of herd immunity.
Michael Levitt, Stanford Prof. of Biophysics, agrees, calls an end in 4 weeks.
@Arttua, thanks for the feedback. Perhaps carry some backpacker’s oxygen? 😉Sandmann justice, or, Turnabout is fair play. Very Cheeky.
“Are You Ready to Surrender?”
Hell, no, as long as the health care industry willingly drowns 75,000 to 100,000 of us in a sea of HCQ corruption, I see it an act of collusion to promote lock downs, just participate as needed. Lock downs designed by vaccine profit dreamers is a natural outcome of government regulated health care. Too much money attracts sociopaths that worm their way into decision making positions. Witness Fauci.
Have you ever walked into a public bathroom and been greeted by an offensive odor? If sourced by an infected person, I propose you have just been dosed. Good luck with any mask in slowing that down, meat processing plants might be place to shake down that thought. BTW, the lack of an offensive odor is not an “all clear”, given odor strength varies independently of airborne viruses density. Hat tip to our local McDonald’s, where the bathroom remains locked for 5 minutes between use. (Comment on this conjecture?)Based on HCQ and this study, please add this metric to the header of this blog:
Death by FDA: 479,862 [599,828 * 0.8]Decriminalization of specific offenses is a far better way to target police abuses than the broad brush of defunding. Try starting here:
Drugs
Asset Forfeiture
Suicide
(consult your resident libertarian for more)However, the Decriminalization has these problems:
Requires action on the part of legislatures
Excessive syllable count for Antifa culturalists
Difficult to paint & read with street sized lettersNo politician of any persuasion will discuss pulling these laws. Liberal or Conservative, if you are in power, you don’t want to lose control over your assets, er…, citizens.
Where is the wisdom of only offering the flights you can fill? Are we so anxious to burn fuel?
p.s. thanks for the reply, JD.Allied Pilots Association Introduces “SEATS” Concept: “Return of Air Travel a Major Catalyst for Economic Recovery”
FORT WORTH, Texas (June 24, 2020) – The Allied Pilots Association (APA), representing the 15,000 pilots of American Airlines, introduced a concept labeled “Safe Essential Air Transportation Seating (SEATS)” that is designed to enable a gradual return to pre-pandemic passenger travel while maintaining critical transportation infrastructure employment.
“Under SEATS, the government would purchase enough seats on each flight to eliminate the need for any passenger to sit next to a stranger,” said APA President Capt. Eric Ferguson. “Thanks to uniform social distancing, passengers would be encouraged to fly more, airlines would be encouraged to operate more flights, and the government would ensure the preservation of critical transportation infrastructure and associated jobs.”
……And now for something completely different!
Taipei Songshan airport offers fake travel experience
DREAMING OF TRAVEL: About 7,000 people applied for the experience, with about 60 chosen for the first flight yesterday, which includes boarding an airplane.
Starved of the travel experience during COVID-19? Taipei International Airport (Songshan airport) has the solution — a fake itinerary where you check in, go through passport control and security, and even board the aircraft. You just never leave.
The airport yesterday began offering travelers the chance to do just that, with about 60 people eager to get going, albeit to nowhere.
About 7,000 people applied to take part, with the winners chosen by random. More fake flight experiences are to take place in the coming weeks.
….Opinions requested, please.
If the 84% reduction in hospitalization passes scrutiny, what is the effect on R Value if the FDA blesses the following:
Five days of HCQ, Zinc, & Azithromycin at first symptom and contact
A half dose for those in the same household or confirmed contact.
I am thinking that community spreading will end in 40 days, as the R value falls to 0.5 or lower. Is this reasonable?
Mahalo,
KimoI transcribed some of this interview with the ICU nurse, who worked both Elmhurst Hospital in Brooklyn, and her home city hospital in Florida. It’s a long interview at 1 hour, 10 minutes, including undercover recordings, which I imagine leaves more room to validate authenticity. Viable treatment deflates most any other controversy.
Transcription starts here:
Q: In your home state[Florida], where you were treating people, what would the protocol be?
A: It varied upon each individual, you know, um, but we definitely would never go immediately to “you’re going to need a vent”.
Q: You didn’t feel pressure to diagnose people… there wasn’t pressure to diagnose people Covid?
A: Not at all. No. We’re not a public hospital. That make a huge difference. What I am seeing is, it’s like the public hospitals. And this is in, like, other states, too, like you look at all the hospitals most of them are public that are needing money, but our hospital would treat them as individuals, and they were using the Hydroxycloroquine and the zinc and that protocol, for sure.
Q: In your home state[Florida], where you were treating people, what would the protocol be?
A: It varied upon each individual, you know, um, but we definitely would never go immediately to “you’re going to need a vent”.
Q: You didn’t feel pressure to diagnose people… there wasn’t pressure to diagnose people covid?
A: Not at all. No. We’re not a public hospital. That make a huge difference. What I am seeing is, it’s like the public hospitals. And this is in, like, other states, too, like you look at all the hospitals most of them are public that are needing money, but our hospital would treat them as individuals, and they were using the Hydroxycloroquine and the zinc and that protocol, for sure.
Q: At your hospital?
A: Oh yeah.
Q: And that seemed to work?
A: Oh yeah, we didn’t have anybody that died. I think there was one admitted and went home and died a day later. And I’m in a pretty big city. [Florida]
Q: And were these people were elderly with comorbitities that were having good outcomes?
A: Um, yeah, actually the one guy that was admitted and he was obese, like, severely obese. And he’s fine.
Q: And he left after a day?
A: I think it was like after a night, maybe two nights, max.
Q: And you remember what he was treated with?
A: I didn’t have him on the floor, but I can’t imagine that he wasn’t treated with our protocol.
Q: Which was?
A: Hydroxycloroquine and zinc.
Q: Why do you think that was demonized so much?
A: Because it is working, and people wouldn’t need vents. (laughs) I don’t know.I’ve been watching The Ethical Skeptic on twitter, who seems to have a handle on case increases.
As we continue to delve into the 12 hot states, we increment to what is now a 143% increase in 12 days, with only an 8.9% hospitalization rise.
Fatalities for these states are falling after 11 days now. This is not what happened back in April.Raul, I have been absent as you generally observe, but noticed this morning that DeSantis has an explanation of the cases going up. If testing is going up, I’d watch hospitalizations as a more stable indicator.
As far as lives lost, I would peg it on suppression of HCQ cocktail at early onset, anti-inflammatory treatment at the hospital, with the possible addition of Ivermectin/Doxycycline.
In short, most deaths were either political, or with seriously overlying comorbidities. I apologize for not keeping up with discussions here promoting mask use, which I favor if voluntary.Raul, mahalo for your attention. I don’t discount that you (and others) may disagree with the sources, and those sources may be wrong. And yes, I am more than a messenger, but not by much.
Hat tip to Bill Still, this Swiss Policy Research seems to be the final word on CCP Virus over-hype, all quite well referenced abet you may need your google translate on some.
Fetzer list 30 points of contention, often debated here at TAE.
For example:“8. Up to 30% of all additional deaths may have been caused not by Covid19, but by the effects of the lockdown, panic and fear. For example, the treatment of heart attacks and strokes decreased by up to 60% because many patients no longer dared to go to hospital.
16. Contrary to original assumptions, various studies have shown that there is no evidence of the virus spreading through aerosols (i.e. tiny particles floating in the air) or through smear infections (e.g. on door handles or smartphones). The main modes of transmission are direct contact and droplets produced when coughing or sneezing.
17 There is also no scientific evidence for the effectiveness of face masks in healthy or asymptomatic individuals. On the contrary, experts warn that such masks interfere with normal breathing and may become “germ carriers”. Leading doctors called them a “media hype” and “ridiculous”.
“The (Undercover) Epicenter Nurse
My apologies if this has been shared already.
This ICU nurse has had experience during the CCP virus pandemic in both NY and FL.
NY is a case study in what to avoid:
1. Use the longer 5 day test while admitting to a ward with test positive patients
2. Ignore negative test results
3. Aggressively step to maximum ventilation therapy at any minor step down of blood oxygen levels.
Death was a guaranteed outcome.
FL was entirely different, but not covered in detail in this interview. Highlights:
1. Use HCQ + Zinc therapy early
2. Oxygen, but no ventilator
Death avoided.
It’s one brave nurse, and quite a good interview with undercover segments, a bit longer than needed at one hour ten minutes. If it gets popular, expect it to disappear.Plea Bargaining
At their core, is a statement by the defendant that they enter the plea “knowingly, voluntarily, and intelligently”, and it is not “forced threatened or coerced in any way”. The court admits coercion is possible by requiring an answer to a coercion question, but it defies reason that a coerced defendant ever admit coercion! That is the purpose of coercion. So it amounts to an institutionalized catch 22, that now threatens General Flynn.
I note that Judge Sullivan’s representative argues:“The Government has engaged in highly irregular conduct to benefit a political ally of the President.”
Irregular conduct, yes, but we know by recent evidentiary releases, that it was the former investigators and prosecutors who committed irregular conduct. And it did not benefit the President. Dropping charges is an act of correcting an injustice.
Instead, Judge Sullivan is maliciously exploits the fallacies of Plea Bargaining(pg 73) by barking up the wrong tree in an act of blatant partiality. One would hope that Sullivan dismisses the case, the misconduct of the former prosecutors is fully explored, and law enacting Plea Bargaining fully rescinded for being fundamentally flawed.“lockdowns”
Where authority discourages HCQ/zinc, I presume authority is compromised.
“India scares me, despite their HCQ campaign”
I have read somewhere that India distributes HCQ to all household members where a suspected case is found. If true, this would appear tremendously supportive of self reliance, verses hospitalization. Do they track overall deaths well? It might be all that one gets.
Senegal is still the minimalist country I watch. One dollar test kits, $60 ventilators under development a month ago.
They seem to be doing well lately.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24632823-700-cheap-and-easy-1-coronavirus-test-to-undergo-trials-in-senegal/
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/21/africa-coronavirus-successes-innovation-europe-us<p lang=”en” dir=”ltr”>My daughter just solved the COVID: “test everyone for Covid with a fake test and tell them they are all positive and they have to isolate for 2 weeks.” It is genius.</p>— Joshua Gans (@joshgans) May 17, 2020
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Busy weekend.
Study finds hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin plus zinc vs hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin alone improves outcomes in hospitalized COVID-19 patients
It’s worth noting that “Out of an audience of 65,000 chronic lupus and rheumatoid arthritis patients who systematically take hydroxychloroquine, only 20 patients tested positive for the virus.”
WHO indictment:This complicity of the WHO in the Chinese cover-up of the coronavirus pandemic is the tip of the iceberg concerning an increasing lack of oversight of China’s human rights practices at international organizations. Just last month, China was appointed to a seat on the Consultative Group of the United Nations Human Rights Council, tasked with appointing independent human rights experts. It is outrageous that a country inflicting a campaign of cultural genocide against its ethnic and religious minorities, such as the incarceration of over 1 million Uighur Muslims, should be given any responsibility to oversee human rights practices. It is an institutional oxymoron.
Bizarre: 2003 Dead Zone – Plague, amateur scientist saves town from Chinese virus with Chlorquin[sp]
Finally, Flynn ducks line up behind Obama:This stunning operation was not just a typical battle between political foes, nor merely an example of media bias against political enemies. Instead, this entire operation was a deliberate and direct attack on the foundation of American governance. In light of the newly declassified documents released in recent days, it is clear that understanding what happened in that January 5 Oval Office meeting is essential to understanding the full scope and breadth of the corrupt operation against the Trump administration.
Hold your breath for Remdesivir, you need to treat 28 patients before you can claim that you saved one life.
The WHO: Buyers of Death
The two nursing home stories highlights why the WHO seems on hard times. I understand that world politics must be interwoven in their efforts. Yet decisions appear to have compromised their efforts to attend to world health. It is painful to see them turn their back on Taiwan to appease the CCP. Regardless of the population discrepancies, at some point it is evident that the world at large would benefit health-wise by recognizing Taiwan as a political entity of it’s own, just to leverage what they are sharing with the world. There are very stark differences in outcomes between CCP controlled China and Taiwan, which I don’t plan to detail here. Suffice to say I conclude that the WHO by it’s actions, appear as co-opted by the CCP, perhaps by bribes or extortion ala Epstein, both of which are established tools of the CCP to against entities of leverage.
This week, while the world seems preoccupied by Remdesivir, another nail in the WHO coffin has come to my attention. Out of left field, the Eastern Virginia Medical School has issued a fine document, describing a CCP Virus treatment plan that “has achieved near uniform success” with drugs that are “safe, cheap and “readily” available”.
EVMS is not complimentary of the WHO [ bolding mine, credit Market Ticker].“Providing supportive care (with ventilators that themselves stoke the fire) and waiting for the cytokine fire to burn itself out simply does not work… this approach has FAILED and has led to the death of tens of thousands of patients. The systematic failure of critical care systems to adopt corticosteroid therapy resulted from the published recommendations against corticosteroids use by the World Health Organization (WHO), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the American Thoracic Society (ATS) amongst others. A very recent publication by the Society of Critical Care Medicine and authored one of the members of our group (UM), identified the errors made by these organizations in their analyses of corticosteroid studies based on the findings of the SARS and H1N1 pandemics. Their erroneous recommendation to avoid corticosteroids in the treatment of COVID-19 has led to the development of myriad organ failures which have overwhelmed critical care systems across the world.”
In light of the above, and the focus on Remdesivir, I can not help but wonder if the WHO is also being played by Big Pharma to detriment of world health. I don’t expect perfection, just a single minded focus on saving lives from disease. As a start of saving the noblest of organizations, I would expect:
Tedros steps aside as a demonstration of his personal priorities
very loud promotion of the EVMS therapy described above, assuming it has merit
bring Taiwan into the world health community as a full fledged memberThe WHO appears gravely ill. WHO, heal thyself!
Virus Free Protection Plan
Phase 1: The Land Where Time Stands Still
Grab a flight to Kauai, where for a number of days there has been only one case. You’ll spend the first two weeks in isolation, afterwards the run of the island of 167K residents living with no virus, and very appreciative of the rare tourist. Enjoy, but remember to bring your mask.Phase 2: Step into the Time Machine
As @Doc Robinson points out above, Sweden is far ahead of the herd immunity race. As they cross the finish line (no new cases), leave the Kauai island paradise to travel to Sweden to enjoy another virus free location and a more metro area with open shops. Don’t expect to return to Kauai any time soon, as they will be last in the race.Various stories about Sweden, who seem to be working this best:
Additional steps? Retirement communities and nursing homes could isolate their staff from their own families for awhile, by offering them food & lodging (imagine the parties!). I am so glad to see the photo, which depicts young, trim Swedes enjoying an outing together. It’s great for those at risk, herd immunity will be achieved all the faster, and life will then return to normal. It’s not too late for the US to shift gears.
https://www.thelocal.se/20200424/interview-isabella-lovin-coronavirus-the-biggest-myth-about-sweden-is-that-life-is-going-on-as-normal
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8252553/Swedish-expert-says-coronavirus-lockdown-not-saved-lives.html“The soldiers stayed in a hotel near the wet-market, and trained near Ft Detrick, Maryland.”
US to blame? What advantage does a military contingent offer in an intentional virus release, that an agent posing as obscure tourist can’t accomplish leaving little to trace/blame. And if carried there because of an accidental release by a US lab, I would have expected rest home wipe-out in the US far in advance of the January “discovery”.
Rather, the games offered a rather unique distribution opportunity to infect the military personnel of the world. Who had the most to gain? Should we expect a surprise military action in the next few weeks? They would be the guilty party.Death Demand
When car sales slump, producers drop prices. Those anticipating a car purchase, run down to the dealer to buy. A deeper slump follows, having sold cars to all those that had anticipated buying.
The CCP Virus hits, and those not far from end of life, are taken early. Yes there are others. It seems YOY starts to measure the effect, but it will take months after serious cases go to noise, before we know death demand by numbers. Ultimately, impact should be measured in life-years, rather than a simple death count. And we don’t need testing to find that number, just patience.
Oh, I understand the appeal of perfect testing. As if you could put on googles, and see this virus wafting around specific people on the street. But I fear we head towards citizen tracking. Where does it lead? Sorry, your social distancing credits are a bit low this month, maybe you witnessed your neighbor doing something suspicious?
Calculate your risk/reward, and act accordingly. For example, if you demand certainty, commit to total isolation. Testing is not needed for society as a whole, given hospital admissions is a reliable indicator of herd immunity.
Let’s take consequence like adults, please don’t demand that politicians “do something”.Thank you D Benton Smith & WEST on behalf of my father.
And thank you, Huskynut, for the NZ links, the latter is of great interest.
“If lock-downs (such as they were) had not been done, and the Wuhan virus ranged free”
Ok, I’m triggered, and would like to point out there is a light year between these two extremes, and most of the ground could be covered by practical suggestions to modestly enlightened citizens, case in point.Doc Robinson,
Thank you for the correction, I confused illness with infection, overlooking asymptomatic flu. I speculate, between Covid19 and the Flu infection fatality rates are still within an order of magnitude. Regardless, the policy adjustments I proposed are sound for responsible adults, IMHO. They are considerable less constrictive for those at low death risk, and no contact with those of high risk. My Dad turned 100 this month, and he is locked down tight. It is his choice, and mine, in spite of the unhappy consequence of no in-person celebration.The original research at Stanford concludes “a range between 48,000 and 81,000 people infected in Santa Clara County by early April”. “As of Friday, it officially had recorded 1,833 cases and 69 deaths related to coronavirus.”
I calculate an infection fatality rate of 0.14%, assuming 48K infections. The CDC Flu fatality rate is 0.14% (61K/45M).
Once infected, the fatality outcome is not different between this CCP virus and the flu. It’s just our infection opportunity with the CCP Virus is so much greater.
And yes, because it’s more infectious, the hospitals might overflow. And yes, the symptoms are different, and deaths are ghastly, I expect the flu is not pretty, either.
Individual freedom, personal responsibility.
I think the proper response would have been to cancel very large public events, and reserved those places for patient overflow. Our Military reservists might be well utilized to staff those places, along with volunteers from the industry or the public (if trained in advance like we do with CPR).
No lock down, just short term travel bans while infection disparities are more than two orders of magnitude, then traveling resumes within one order of magnitude.
We shot ourselves in the foot. It’s time to lift the lock down. Now, before more damage is done.
IMHO
p.s. Extinction Events. Collapse perhaps, but tough for quick acting diseases to get to place like Pitcairn.
