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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle March 19 2021 #71469
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    @ WES

    “I was working in a phosphate mine outside of Marrakesh.”

    It has a ring to it, doesn’t it? LIke the o0ening to a Hemmingway short.

    Marrakesh Express

    in reply to: Putin is 1000x Biden #71466
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    @ generic

    “Trump foolishly thought he was going to be in charge of something.”

    While I do not wish to downplay resistance by the Deep State to anyone who doesn’t go along with the plan, Trump had a great opportunity to get a headlock on the Deep State. The bully pulit is no small thing. However, Trump is a massive fuckup albeit a brilliant media manipulator. The bully pulpit bullied him as much as anyone because he is mentally and verbally incontinent. He leaks through himself like a sieve. It was just a matter of time. As an example, if Trump could have behaved sanely with the covid thing he would’ve won by a landslide. But Trump is a feather in the wind of his own ego.

    Carter went WAYYY against the Deep State and is still alive. History rhymes, yes, but that isn’t the same as repeat. If Trump weren’t such a colossal fuckup, we might well be seeing some major indictments of some big names.

    It’s funny: if Trump weren’t nuts the way he is, he wouldn’t have won the nomination much less presidency. But being nuts made him incapable of using the Oval Office for much except the usual pocket-stuffing.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 19 2021 #71465
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    As for Biden/Harris, one assumes the plan is to have Joe become seriously ill about the time we go to war with Kamala as our brave new war-time She-President. I say that but I can’t imagine anyone we can still invade and conquer. How about Britain?

    But seriously: it seems they’ve burnt that part of the playbook.

    Begin a storm trooper pogrom of ‘domestic terrorists’? Trouble with an internal American color revolution is that they’re Americans. It’s your own country that you couldn’t run before you turned it inside out with a color revolution.

    I wish I were young but know what I know now, as they say. I’d like to be able to help push some decent people through the bottleneck. Matter. Make a difference. It would be hell but hell could be fun?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 19 2021 #71463
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    Other than C,S,&N singing Marrakesh Express, this is my fave Woodstock moment:

    Love March

    in reply to: Putin is 1000x Biden #71462
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    @ kullervo

    “[The human condition (= crab-bucket effect): we must deceive each other continuously lest someone wake up and recognises Truth.]”

    I get what you mean, and appreciate the insight, but deceit seems the wrong word, as does the teleological cant of your statement, as if life wants to keep us from realizing and acknowledging accurate information, an idea that hardly fits in with life in terms of survival pressure. Also, the capitalization of Truth as if there were such a thing that could be monolithic is a semantic overload of an innocent word.

    People in general seek to reinforce each other’s agreements of what consensual reality is and what it means. From there, we get the usual mixed results of all group behavior. We reinforce accurate information as well as inaccurate information so long as it reinforces the programming we received becoming human beings, some of which is accurate, some not.

    But as a metaphor, I think it’s a good eye-opener. The effect of the reinforcement syndrome is as you describe.

    ^&*

    As for Gospodin Putin: I see him as someone who developed a logical psychopathic shell to preserve a decently beating feeling loving heart. One hates to break it to the hypnotized, but part of being a leader of a nation state is deciding who to kill. It’s their reasons for doing so and how they go about it that can wildly differ.

    I have a simple word for Putin: a man. A “real man” even. Cue barechest footage of horseback Putin accompanied by a Joe Biden voiceover lying about his brave exploits as a fearless hero.

    Look! He’s now a comic book hero!

    putin

    &*(

    I see we now hate Myanmar military for ruthlessly suppressing our color revolution. One has to go WAYYYYY dpwn google’s search list to find anything but the offical lines of official bullshit about how poor innocent protestors are being gunned down by ruthless freedom-hating baby-raping soldiers.

    They’re probably poor and as innocent as most of us but one needs to choose sides carefully when political revolution is the activity.

    in reply to: Putin is 1000x Biden #71459
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    Covidian comparison:

    “The great medical problem of this period was syphilis-likely recently imported from the West Indies, and running rampant as a pandemic completely untreated. Paracelsus vigorously attacked the treatment with guaiac wood as useless, a scam perpetrated by the Fugger of Augsburg as the main importers of the wood in two publications on the topic. When his further stay in Nuremberg had become impossible, he retired to Beratzhausen, hoping to return to Nuremberg and publish an extended treatise on the “French sickness”, but its publication was prohibited by a decree of the Leipzig faculty of medicine, represented by Heinrich Stromer, a close friend and associate of the Fugger family.[37]”

    Some things never change. That said:

    “As a physician of the early 16th century, Paracelsus held a natural affinity with the Hermetic, Neoplatonic, and Pythagorean philosophies central to the Renaissance, a world-view exemplified by Marsilio Ficino and Pico della Mirandola. Astrology was a very important part of Paracelsus’s medicine and he was a practicing astrologer – as were many of the university-trained physicians working at that time in Europe. Paracelsus devoted several sections in his writings to the construction of astrological talismans for curing disease. He also invented an alphabet called the Alphabet of the Magi, for engraving angelic names upon talismans.[dubious – discuss][41] Paracelsus largely rejected the philosophies of Aristotle and Galen, as well as the theory of humours. Although he did accept the concept of the four elements as water, air, fire, and earth, he saw them merely as a foundation for other properties on which to build.[42]”

    Whose science are you on, or something like that.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 19 2021 #71452
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    I saw Woodstock on album covers. Didn’t see the movie. I remember seeing Niagra Falls and Letchworth State Park as a child on a family trip b ut then we turned south for some small town in Pennsylvania coal country to visit old relatives. I mean: old. Almost as old as me, and I am so old people think I’m younger.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 19 2021 #71447
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    TV Sucks Dead Fish“>TV Sucks Dead Fish

    Poor Flipper.

    We’re not allowed to see the violence on which our lives rest. It’s illegal to film inside USA slaughterhouses and feedlots. etc. etc. etc….

    You can look away from reality and look at the screen. I spend my time looking at one. (And an old-school book is a kind of screen too, and books have done great damage as well, but not nearly as much as hypnotic electronic media.)

    But reality remains behind that screen.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 19 2021 #71446
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    phoenixvoice

    “Is it that my left leaning friends were always this credulous? Is it just because so many are stuck in these digital media bubble silos that surround our minds in cottony propaganda? Because we are not interacting face to face and it this is preventing many from obtaining accurate bearings on what is going on in the world?”

    I think it’s because they are products of public and advanced modern education. THey are trained to be professional pedants. They are like the scholars of Scholasticism.

    All of us are to some extent this way to the extent we went through the school system successfully. (I dropped out in my freshman year.) But liberals as a group are moreso, in my experience, perhaps because they lean toward the liberal arts degrees versus hard science or MBAs?

    One might say (throwing fish to the dolphins here, I am) that conservatives lean toward Law and Order and liberals lean toward Law and Orders? It’s their reactionary curse from too often being forced to deal with major social ills that conbservatives fail to address. They idealize their ideologiy, and once you idealize something, it has the right to rule and reign by whatever means deemed necessary.

    Currently, the conservative camp has become the new progressive camp insomuch as it is willing to address those social ills caused by their loyal opposition, the liberals. Either way, both sides are right, goddammit, what are you some kind of libtard/repugnican?, and that holds together about as well as two magnets of identical polarity.

    All that said, I’ve heard numerous conservatives say might dumb things about covid or you name it. Credulousness is hardly a monopoly of either side.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 19 2021 #71438
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    Today, the Edit function, clicked, closes the Edit function and makes the post permanent. Oh, the bare-bones internet, another failing infrastructure taxed to the max by corporate and government misuse.

    ^&*

    And now works again. THese platforms are running on fumes, I think.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 19 2021 #71437
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    @ Dr. D

    “Armageddon comes with the opening of the first seal: plague and disease. Check!”

    1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
    2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

    Bow and arrow seems a bit of a stretch as a metaphor for vaccination much less disease.

    I never could make sense of Revelations. I think it’s coded allegory for coded allegory. But I adore the more poetic passages:

    Revelation 6:12-17

    12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
    13 And the stars of the heavens fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
    14 And the heavens departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
    15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
    16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
    17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

    Most major Hollywood movies seem to be subconscious projections of something like this. Run from Galactacus! Hide!

    As a member fo the First Church of Silly Star Wars Shit, I hold to the orthodox view: the post-mortal Obi Wan is a Being of Pure Light a la original TV Star Trek episodes. There are heretics who claim that a being of pure light is merely a hologram but they are literlist fools with no soul or hope for their ultimate fate. Our Inquisition takes such heretics and p[laces them in a secure family entertainment room to binge-watch Battlestar Galactica until they confess their sins.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 19 2021 #71435
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    Here’s stupid calling stupid stupid:

    Stupid

    WP says: “Reply To: Debt Rattle March 19 2021Error: Slow down; you move too fast.”

    I get that a lot.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 19 2021 #71434
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    @ Raul

    “Make the right to housing a law.”

    Sure, but first we’ll need to build a lot more prisons-as-factories/day-labor-pools. And a lot more military barracks. Might as well make the right to legislate a house… of representatives. Oh. I see we already have.
    I have difficulty believing you seriously think such an action would improve the issue other than some immediate minimal short-term gains acheved at exorbitant cost and doomed to fail in a few years.

    ^&*

    @ a kullervo

    “One can regard the general response to the trendy virus as:
    a) A global conspiracy theory working its way through;
    b) global stupidity reaching a paroxysmic peak.

    “Is it only me who considers b) as far worse than anything else?”

    Oh no. You have me for company. Evil at least has enough sense to run from its own trouble. Stupid just doubles down on it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 18 2021 #71431
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    @ John Day

    Oh, I adore young nymphs but my place is with the ageing swans they turn into over time.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 18 2021 #71413
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    Ridiculing Fauci

    There’s so much of this stuff making the mainstream rounds. They’ll get some more vaccinations done, call it good, claim victory, and increasingly lose control of the people through a media even they can see is beyond hope.

    My fave:

    fauci

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 18 2021 #71416
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    more fauci

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 18 2021 #71415
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    fauci

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 18 2021 #71414
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    testing

    Ridiculing Fauci

    There’s so much of this stuff making the mainstream rounds. They’ll get some more vaccinations done, call it good, claim victory, and increasingly lose control of the people through a media even they can see is beyond hope.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 18 2021 #71410
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    HoReally Stupid Things Said About Russiaw can one not love this writer?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 18 2021 #71407
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    Not that I give a shit for Rand or this kind of political theater. The fact that Rand uses the word vaccine when he is (I presume) talking about this mRNA nonsense, makes him a clod at best and a sellout at worst.

    Rand’s a senator. His Dad was a Congressman. Senators are hopeless but some House Representatives are ok.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 18 2021 #71405
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    @ zerosum

    Fun watching Fauci’s face as Rand makes it clear he thinks he’s a complete shithead. You can see the pressure around Fauci’s eyes, the strain in his smile. Oh, he knows Rand won’t get anywhere in that confrontation, nor do I know if he’s smart enough to see his fall from grace on the horizon. But his massive ego is taking fire and it isn’t used to that. His smug condescension doesn’t even make Rand blink.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 18 2021 #71402
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    Bravo. I clicked the site and it showed me a Patron subscriber request. But it didn’t block me, just nudged me to subscribe (which I did). Nice gentle start. Well done.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 18 2021 #71393
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    @ John Day

    They’re too waif-like for me. And at my age, thinking of them erotically feels pedophilic. 😉

    ^&*

    @ Mr. House

    Lovely quotes and refernces today. The Spengler in particular perked my wrinkles.

    ^&*

    Regarding CHurchill and truth:

    “There are a lot of lies going around… and half of them are true.”

    “In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies.”

    “A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.”

    “Truth is incontrovertible, ignorance can deride it, panic may resent it, malice may destroy it, but there it is.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminological_inexactitude#:~:text=Terminological%20inexactitude%20is%20a%20phrase,phrase%20following%20the%201906%20election.

    I suspect old Stalin goty a kick watching Winnie and FDR scam each other.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 18 2021 #71375
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    Silver Lining

    Take this silver lining
    Keep it in your own
    Sweet head
    And shine it when the night is
    Burning red
    Shine it in the twilight
    Shine it on the cold, cold ground
    Shine it till these walls
    Come tumbling down
    We were born with our eyes wide open
    So alive with wild hope now
    Can you tell me why
    Time after time they drag you down
    Down in the darkest deep
    Fools and their madness all around
    Know that the light don’t sleep
    Step into the silence
    Take it in your own
    Two hands
    And scatter it like diamonds
    All across these lands
    Blaze it in the morning
    Got to wear it like an iron skin
    Only things worth living for
    Innocence and magic, amen
    We were born with our eyes wide open
    So alive with wild hope now
    Can you tell me why
    Time after time they drag you down
    Down in the darkest deep
    Fools and their madness all around
    Know that the light don’t sleep
    Know that the light don’t sleep

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 18 2021 #71374
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    @ Mr. House

    Does “FF” mean ‘false flag’? Or?

    $%^

    Violence against and by Asians is part of San Francisco’s founding DNA.

    ^&*

    As for the immunity remarks: what they’re calling vaccines, aren’t. Immunity isn’t part of the deal. LOrd knows what those imbeciles think they’re doing. Which reminds me: it occurred to me that being evil requires exertion while being stupid requires inertia.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 17 2021 #71317
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    @ zerosum

    “TAE community has identified the problems.
    Yet, the solutions evade us.
    Being an expat or a prepper is not sufficient
    All previous attempts to implement a sustainable social/economic system have dissipated in the morning haze.
    Check out your holy books, and your history books.
    Adam and Eve were not the first that left their social/economic system.
    The shit hit the fan even for the angels.
    They had to escape their social/economic system and set up a competing social/economic system.
    Its the untold truth.”

    While I personally have little if any idea of what the “untold truth” is, and suspect no one does, This text made my morning. As for solutions: there is no solution. One doesn’t solve a tidal wave or a massive volcanic eruption. It deals with you, not you with it. But there are courses of action with higher survival/lower suffering p[robabilities than others.

    Some art for Raul courtesy the San bushmen of the late Paleolithic:

    San Rock Art

    Like our fellow warm-blooded vertebrates, feathered or furred, success is not so much survival, which is really DNA’s hangup, not awareness’s, success is loving loyalty between two significant others:

    The Call of the Beloved

    ^&*

    @ Dr. D

    “LIE” x about 20 times.

    Did I touch a nerve? Let me touch another one: chronic motive inference is not only fatally flawed logic, it’s a runway to ballooning paranoia, another enemy of logic. Jeremiads provide some satisfaction but at the cost of a kind of tunnel-visionary paranoia. One ends up shooting the same dead ducks ion a barrel over and over and over and over…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 17 2021 #71354
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    Goodbye, Avalon

    A sense of home for a culture of people who live in tiny lifestyle bubbles void of any connection to nonhumanreality except what work demands and their money can buy, and a ridiculously distorted form of social reality increasingly conducted through electronic interfaces, social dildoes, relationship prostheses: what would that sense of home be like? Our descendants of the 22nd Century will have a sense of home. A powerful deep connection to their local plot of turf and the people who share the local watershed, etc.

    ^&*

    @ WES

    Wordpress, obviously being an old platform running on slim margins, probably can’t afford to kick people off. Besides, blogs are *so* last decade. Social networks rule. However, it might be cool for Raul to look into a private site hosted by a small outfit, and have someone design a platform for him. A little fund drive here would probably raise surprising capital to faciltate such a move.

    He has enough loyal admirers to promote his stuff on the larger platforms. He might enjoy a bit of a heyday windfall. Riding the back eddies of a major river like the internet can be surprisingly effective if one is genuinely moving against the current anyway.

    A model I see often is withholding comment privileges if one doesn’t pay. Giving people a 10-day free posting period will pull in the loudmouths like us who provide much of the content that lurkers read. Moderate uber hardcore obvious trolls but otherwise continue laissez-faire moderation. Let us handle the trolls. We all love kicking the creep around now and then. Give those lurkers a 30-day free period to read comments, period. Suck them in that way.

    Any online bizman will tell you that if you don’t control your platform you don’t own your business.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 17 2021 #71347
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    The popular vision of the 21st Century utopia built by averting disaster recruits a hypergenius AI to serve as all-wise benevolent dictator. I suspect the currently reigning cretins think they can pull off a version of, or an imitation of, this utopia with them as the Oz wizards behind the AI interface.

    Political platforms: if they were presented as fiction, it wouldn’t even suspend the imagination’s disbelief.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 17 2021 #71345
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    @ Mr. House

    Killing the Ghosts concurs with my views for the most part. We empower our leaders by making them figures of opposition to historical bogeymen. While more dire consequences of this can be numerously listed, a small but telling example is how the Dems played Anyone But Trump after making sure the press painted him as Hitler.

    Hitler is fucking dead. So is Alexander the Great, another crazed megalomaniacal butcher. Dubya, Obama, and the Clintons, similar monsters, are still alive.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 17 2021 #71344
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    @ Mr. House

    How much of a population crash occurs I couldn’t say, but the potential for Deagel’s forecast to prove true is substantial to say the least.

    @#$

    “Dr. Richard M. Fleming, MD, PhD, JD – is internationally recognized cardiologist, attorney, researcher, inventor, and author. He is currently the Director and Chair of the Camelot Foundation. His bibliography is as long as a book. I don’t know of anyone on this planet that has more knowledge about SARS-CoV-2 than Dr. Fleming. We are indeed fortunate to be able to have him present to us information on SARS-CoV-2 that you will never hear anywhere else. He will present his recent research uncovering evidence that SARS-CoV-2 was engineered with mRNA reverse transcription into cell DNA with prion-like structures presence in the virus spike protein in order to create an inflammatory response leading to thrombosis. Please investigate his astounding web site http://www.flemingmethod.com. ”

    Dr. Fleming has serious street cred.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 17 2021 #71338
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    Global Rule

    Winner take nothing.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 17 2021 #71337
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    @ Mr. House

    Aye, I didn’t think you had bets on that one yet.

    I personally have believed for some time that the vaccine rollout will go so far, and then putter out by fall or at most next spring. The powers that be seem to possess only two skills: profiting ruthlessly via governmental privilege while doing all they can to present that profiteering as necessary (war, for example) and as distraction from the fiasco caused by their last profiteering.

    No way on earth these clownzos could run an Orwellian state. Even China can hardly do that anymore. It increasingly bribes its citizen-slaves with promises of the Chinese Dream (America with epicanthic folds and a much longer history) and the gradual allowance of various religious ideals to resume some role in their society. Money and religion, just like the USA.

    So I think covid et al will fizzle out like a wet firecracker — probably about the time covid has responded to our attempts to eradicate it by mushrooming into countless variants worse than the original. A real genuine pandemic worthy of the name.

    I do not fear government manipulation/extortion via covid more than any other mode of guv manipulatory exploitation. I do, however, have a healthy respect for a significant p[pathogen run amok a la Frankenstein. Wishing to maintain that healthy respect, I take lots of D, get sunshine when I can, etc.

    Hell, I even rouse my lazy old bones to erotically please the ex-Mrs. Sherburn. Like so many things, it’s so easy to say I’m too tired, but life is like male erections as middle age turns geriatric: use ’em or lose ’em.

    Seeing as how participatory electoral politics is currently broken beyond repair across most of the international community, I monitor government like one monitors the weather at sea: to see a storm coming and see which way the wind is blowing, not to understand it: I doubt that weather understands itself, likewise googol-complex chaotic phenomena such as current human culture and its effects upon reality.

    What I fear most right now is Biden, period. Not the man but the hands up his cloaca. Particularly, them fiddle-fucking with Russian cybernets and power grids. One assumes the idea is to create Pearl Harbor 3 as excuse to get their wet-dream Orwell-with-a-Huxley-face on. I think this will prove almost ludicrously disastrous. (For all that 911 was obviously somewhat an inside job, I don’t think it happened as desired; not only do I agree with the idea that the original plan was to use it as an excuse to invade Saudi Arabia, but I don’t think it was supposed to happen when it did. Long-term espionage operations tend to get co-opted by the very entities the espionage is trying to work against.) Russia won’t take the blame; no one will believe us including most of us; and Russia herself wouldn’t retaliate until they had major superiority and knew they could win and do so at an acceptable cost.

    Biden is obviously an asset of the Chinese coalition within US government that has been building since Nixon but got its game seriously on with Clenis the Weeness, and there is powerful evidence and logic seeing him as primarily a Chinese asset in the end. Selling us out to China while he and AL Bore looted Russia until Putin stopped it, whence began the sanctions and Russia Bad narrative. (America is over. C’mon: love him or hate him, when a plebiscite elects a reality TV star of uncommonly crass mien, it’s as toasted as Ukraine electing its version of Jon Stewart to run their country.)

    But I don’t think it’s that simple. If Biden’s a de facto Chinese asset, then such provocation of Russia needs explanation, since Russia and China are currently best buddies. Internationally, their greatest concern is minimizing the blast of America’s inevitable economic implosion (like how fissile atomic bombs are used to implode into each other via a critical nuclear mass between them which then erupts in a thermonuclear bomb explosion). They’re trying to keep this process under critical mass, in other words.

    Only way I can see such hard-to-control picador-ing of the Russian bear making sense is if the end game is for Russia/China to more or less own USA’s internet/power grid. Hold us hostage by our electronic nads. Basically, colonize us for our own good for the sake of their own good.

    And that, alas, sounds like way too much for any modern government or alliance thereof to carry off. Putin’s brilliant, alright, and that brilliance very much includes understanding his and the current situation’s limitations.

    So I opt for the historically traditional explanation: those power-insatiable narcissistic sociopaths really think they can fuck with Russia and do anything but lose. Same story with China except we already lost by forfeit: we’ve already sold us to them.
    I see power outages and maybe even nuclear exchanges. To a population whose immune systems are shyte because modern life is unhealthy despite its comforts and medical technology. With new viruses mutating all over while microbial pathogens decide that antibiotics are good eating. And mostly wood power to rebuild and get by with afterward. Hygiene gone to shit, literally. Medical system a junk yard. Agriculture/livestock systems in a state of war with themselves and everyone else since food has suddenly become extremely interesting to just about everyone.

    Amid all the horror and soulless degeneration, I see love. Much much love. Hard times bring out the worst – and the best – in people.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 17 2021 #71332
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    On pair-bonding:

    Calls

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 17 2021 #71331
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    Ooger-booger!

    @ zerosum

    “TAE community has identified the problems.
    Yet, the solutions evade us.
    Being an expat or a prepper is not sufficient
    All previous attempts to implement a sustainable social/economic system have dissipated in the morning haze.
    Check out your holy books, and your history books.
    Adam and Eve were not the first that left their social/economic system.
    The shit hit the fan even for the angels.
    They had to escape their social/economic system and set up a competing social/economic system.
    Its the untold truth.”

    (mindless insert to remind the post-bots to do their job)

    While I personally have little if any idea of what the “untold truth” is, and suspect no one does, This text made my morning. As for solutions: there is no solution. One doesn’t solve a tidal wave or a massive volcanic eruption. It deals with you, not you with it. But there are courses of action with higher survival/lower suffering probabilities than others.

    Some art for Raul courtesy the San bushmen of the late Paleolithic:

    San Rock Art

    Like our fellow warm-blooded vertebrates, feathered or furred, success is not so much survival, which is really DNA’s hangup, not awareness’s, success is loving loyalty between two significant others.

    ^&*

    @ Dr. D

    “LIE” x about 20 times.

    Did I touch a nerve? Let me touch another one: chronic motive inference is not only fatally flawed logic, it’s a runway to ballooning paranoia, another enemy of logic. Jeremiads provide some satisfaction but at the cost of a kind of tunnel-visionary paranoia. One ends up shooting the same dead ducks ion a barrel over and over and over and over…

    (…and revo and revo and revo…) and a 1 and a 2 and a testing… testing…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle March 17 2021 #71329
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    @ Mr. House

    Regarding Bossche/astroturf: the artificial intentions for and placement of turf doesn’t mean that the astroturf itself is plastic. Grass makes better fake grass than astroturf if one wants to plant a bunch opf grass in a nuclear wasteland and call it a playground meadow. NYT and WaPo made a career of manipulating with facts. Before inferring motive, mayhaps we should look at porimary facts, which in this case are biological and medical.

    However, motive inference and reputation bias aren’t bad, just shouldn’t be used foundationally, in my opinion. For example: assuming it’s astroturf, one then assumes that anti-vax people would be debunking his claims, since he speaks in favor of vaccines and touts them as necessary for dealing with covid-plus variants. Googling ‘debunking Bossche’, I find the bulk of the first ten or so articles appear to be pro-vaccine as in the current rollout. If the vaccine industry is astroturfing for another vaccine rollout, a tactic denouncing the current mainstream Euromerican vaccine programs of mostly untested vaccines, seems a dicey tactic. Like removing your left ovary to strengthen your right ovary ort some crazy notion.

    Early on, the OffGuardian article says:

    “Clearly he’s got significant conflicts of interest. Therefore he has zero credibility when it comes to advising the public about how to avoid negative effects of mass vaccination.”

    That’s language straight out of the NYTimes/Rachel Maddow playbook.

    I still find Bossche very credible.

    Here’s an exemplary ‘debunking” of Dr. Bossche:

    More Covid Misinformation Debunked — Dr Musa Mohd Nordin

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    @ Raul

    I don’t think it’s WP per se. The entire web is being overworked for reasons both practical (huge surge in usage) and corrupt (NSA overhauls/upgrades to a massive degree, I suspect).

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    @ phoenixvoice

    I don’t think Dr. D was dismissing the problems of sexual oppression. I’m sure he knows that The Bee is comedy fiction not fact. I suspect Dr. D knows what it is like to be bullied. I would never doubt his bona fides regarding compassion for the common person although his (as I perceive it) tunnel-vision paranoia can be shrilly dismissive at times and too often for my tastes (I like a little of almost everything including deadly poison like caffeine).

    The fact that allegations of rape can be weaponized should be kepot distinct from the fact bthat rape happens… a lot… and it is well-=established that reporting this to the system typically punishes the accuser more than the accused… unless one goes around the so-called ‘criminal justice’ (well, it’s criminal, alright) and uses means like the media to create public ostracism.

    It has been mentioned that human beings lie. They do. They also tell the truth.

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    @ WES

    The strange and persistent right-wing myth that Thanksgiving celebrates the pilgrims’ triumph over socialism

    As for polar bears, it is their habitat that is disappearing, and thus will follow polar bears. The reason so many polar bears are bothering humans is because their habitat has been eviscerated by said monkey people.

    As for sensational announcements about extinction: sensationalism. Not to be confused with science.

    As for communism itself: it’s how humanity lived before the agricultural age. All forms of government since then have been some kind of -ism, and all of them are some kind of slavery. Communism works — on a small scale; human governance on a large scale never has except for brief periods that get written down as Golden Ages although they were merely more tolerable than usual.

    But people seem to confuse top-down mandates like Leninism with genuine neighborly cooperation, a form of communism.

    We toss these various -isms around like we even know what they are, when all we’ve really experienced is the local form of large-scale organized slavery via socioeconomic strata.

    America hasn’t experienced honest capitalism since the Whiskey Rebellion, and that capitalism was only for non-slaves, a valuable early American commodity. As for Russian communism: while as governance, it failed (like all governments do, some faster than others), as indoctrination it is the maoin reason Russia is still Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union (a slave state that bsold itself as “communism”). WHen the people had to govern themselves for awhile in the late 80s/early 90s, their communistic indoctrination kept them from totally abandoning duty. In America, as Orlov points out, our only ideal is $$$$. When the money fails, our society will fall hard, very hard, indeed.

    Democracy is a Greek legacy. Greece was a slave state. If only Jefferson had realized that… oh. He did.

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    I shall m uster majick and make this thing post this time:

    wango-tango alpha bravoe chaplin. Um…

    ahem

    Oogabooga!

    I have read numerous references here to Soviet workers and this expression: “We pretend to work; you pretend to pay us.”

    It has a predecessor in early Victorian capitalism:

    William Morris

    Summary quote: “To sum up, then, concerning the manner of work in civilized States, these States are composed of three classes – a class which does not even pretend to work, a class which pretends to works but which produces nothing, and a class which works, but is compelled by the other two classes to do work which is often unproductive.

    “Civilization therefore wastes its own resources, and will do so as long as the present system lasts. These are cold words with which to describe the tyranny under which we suffer; try then to consider what they mean.” WIlliam Morris, in the 1880s

    Marx mentioned this too, btw. There was much more to Marx’s wisdom (and folly) than the Communist thingie. He was one of modern capitalist industrialism’s most insightful critical analysts, but because his proposed answer has failed due to human nature, we have thrown out his wisdom concerning our own plight in our belief that We won, They lost, We’re right and That’s that.

    Morris served up a more fundamental and ultimately dire implications of capitalism-for-profit under petro-industrialism than Marx, however. I repeat Morris: “Civilization therefore wastes its own resources, and will do so as long as the present system lasts. These are cold words with which to describe the tyranny under which we suffer; try then to consider what they mean.”

    And here we are, cadets! We pretend to work, they pretend to pay us, and predominantly more-brown-than-not-skinned serfs do most of the heavy lifting for wages we’d deem unlivable. 120 years later.

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