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TPTB coincidence-conspire camp vs TPTB coincidence/corrupt camp are both misnamed. I, for example, believe that powerful persons conspire. It’s what they do. The history is plainly available.
I think that the main difference between the two polar opinions is that one camp places great faith in TPTB’s ability to conspire successfully, and the other sees the conspiring as being as much reactionary WTF-do-we-do-now? desperation as much as My/our brilliant plan is working as planned.
fwiw, the only global conspiracy camp that puts the puzzle pieces together for me in a way that holds form is the more-Xtian-than-not camp that sees some Evil One, el Diablo, working deeply behind the scenes (some even believe under the skin, be it lizard suits or fatuus innoculii) to prevent humanity from realizing its benevolent potential by tricking it into eating — and shitting — its nest into uninhabitable devastation.
Restatement for clarity: I think that TPTB are plenty “evil” enough to do much conspiratorial evil. Kind of a heavy-breathing Big Boy Club circle jerk with or without actual infant/child/virgin sacrifice. (Incidentally, when folks like the ancient Semites offered live infants to Moloch’s red-hot hooved hands
it probably at least interfaced with another phenomenon of the time: when famine occurred, more physically frail little ones died than the rest of the populace except old and frail. They tended to be eaten. A form of sacrifice that sustained the family for awhile. In hard times, infants are dead weight.
Incidentally, my no longer existent 1947 Encyclopaedia Britannica told me that “tophet and hinnom” referred to blowing loud trumpets and baning drums to obscure the screaming of the infant. (Probably didn’t scream long at all: air that hot will knock a person out faster than a Cosby pickup line, snortable or not.)
Infant sacrifice was still practiced in England not too many centuries ago, btw.
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“233 New COVID cases apparently… IN” ad infinitum:
Ask yourself, with coordinated nonsense that obvious and meaningless, who needs devious bullshit specifically suited for the situation? It’s been known online for about a decade — that I know of — that the local news affiliates are useless except for weather and emergency alerts, and share the same stupid stories in one vast dumbed-down global TV village. I see it serving one purpose at this point: as a media ‘stimulus trigger’ to inspire internet etc. traffic that Al Goreithm and friends can study to see who’s catching on to the fact that a media owned by a few wealthy competing allies can’t be trusted etc.
btw, the 233 doesn’t show on the danish guy’s twitter feed, although the story is all over the net.
Me, I think some flunky fucked up. I only see deficits not advantages for TPTB from such a global whie-washing. People will notice.
I still say that between extreme heat/cold, and plague after plague (there will be real plagues, of course, and soon), burkhas are still a smart dress style investment. All the cool kids will be wearting Nike Burkhas.
“Employees risk death and unpayable hospital bills getting the mandated jabs and showing up for work.”
Right thar’s a major “money quote”.
“Sorry, folks. I’m a bit sour this week. My mother, of all people, offered to bribe me to take the shot. All I can do is counter with a firm “No.” Any further discussion or explanation leads to utter heartbreak, either through severing the ties, or revealing to her what has actually happened. She’s a school psychologist, teacher, administrator, software engineer, airplane pilot, security guard, mother of 2 semi-failed sons. She and my father are the most healthy example of a life-long married couple I could imagine, and the reason I still have a marriage.
“All this, and she is now enthralled to the Idiot Box and scared it’s the germ-pocalypse. We’ve tried over the past 2 years to break the spell, no avail. Shut off the TV, folks. The Alpha Wave Beam is lethal.
“It was my own mother who taught me about Bernays, Milgram, Stanford, and a host of other non-physical atrocities perpetrated against innocents. She instructed my brother and I, while watching Wonder Woman (Linda Carter will always be WW! fight me), that even though the bad guys were obviously Nazis, it was wrong to make assumptions about people despite their ‘uniform’. She had a long foray as a near-libertarian (“Governments are only good for fire departments!”). The submission to authoritarian rule was never on the radar.”
I felt similarly when I learned that Nicole Foss suffered TrumpDerangementSyndrome. In a way, it reminds of some famous writer’s remarks on advice: “Whan a reader tells you there’s something wrong with a book, they’re almost always right. WHen they tell you how to fix it, they’re almost always wrong.”
Readers read; writers write. Successful persons in our culture almost always submit to authority at some level. The higher up the ladder they climb, the higher the authority they submit to. Climb high enough, and they can directly kiss the boss’s ass with their own two lips.
As they age successfully, they seem to grow a sense of downright ignorant complacency from all this career climbing just as, ironically, they’ve become fully financially independent and able to tell any boss to kiss their ass. Apparently, they believe in bosses, except one who so brazenly presents himself as a Big Bad BOSS that they feel justified in blaming him for the problems so many bosses, whom they served, created.
Spend a lifetime serving the system, and it has its effect on one.
300 years ago few people traveled further than 30 miles except for maybe a once in a lifetime religious pilgrimage. People from a town 60 miles away were treated both as visiting wonders and yet almost like apartheid subjects.
300 years ago, international travel was dangerous, slow, and rare even with the New World slave/gold/silver trade running high.
Now we think it unnatural, even wrong, that national borders not be porous, almost sieve-like, with international access happening within 24 hours from decision to arrival. We think that being denied access to international flight is somehow wrong because flight is our right. To be denied public access to any private institution is a cardinal sin because openness is good… except when it can’t keep out a certain fey strand of DNA called covid-19.
How long before our kids think 30 miles’ travel is an adventure not a tiny lark to some touristicated place?
Did anyone here think we couod continue as we have? Did they think that liberties would prevail even as life’s necessities unavail?
Covid: this, too, shall pass.
P.S. I understand the will to survive and all, but does anyone here really believe we have a right to burden the planet with 8 billion homo saps burning the power equivalent of a former duke’s spring planting in a day or a week? What is this “right to life” our species claims to have?
I ask these questions not to parse moral issues but to examine the weird foundations on which our thoughts are mostly based per cultural conditioning. We try so hard to be a successful social species but find again and again that our complexity as individuals relative to, say, an ant, make it impossible for us to form sustainable, much less peaceful, large-population societies.
We are based on reproduction: fucking We expand our population via a thing we called progress:moving up.
Our culture is literally based on fucking up.
“Me thinks you project to much”
In grammar schopol, this went in the form of “I know you are but what am I?”
It’s a form of projection, btw. Throwing yourself at the other to see what sticks.
“germ buddy, slow down.”
Wasn’t aware that you were Germ’s boss. Maybe try asking nicely instead of with a condescending “buddy” followed by a blunt imperative? And you present yourself as someone we should listen to when you warn me about creeping censorship? A person who themselves chronically censors and, imo, in a creepy (I despise passive-aggressive nice-nice) way?
This isn’t a college course. There’s no test. You didn’t pay for the data and concepts shared here. It’s a communal ‘autodidactery’.
This isn’t a clique, despite numerous attempts to turn it into one: there are no membership requirements, no hazing ritual, no nothing but people gathering to share info around a few themes.
It certainly ain’t no army, or church, or cult. It’s a place where people express themselves freely. Don’t like their expressions, critique their content. Feel they post more than you can read? Get over it: they post for their reasons not yours.
Feel disrespected by me? Show more respect. Precisely because this is a functioning commune run by a benevolent dictator, there is a high correletion between what you contribute and what you get back. You get what you pay for.
Not to mention that when you’re busy grading others’ papers (despite it not being a class or a test), it helps if you’ll at least identify which paper you’re garding, rather than just walking into the room and unloading a shotgun like some kind on a shooting spree:
“No you’re incorrect.”
Forecast scenario:
When the Ivermectin black market becomes the primary survival-go-to, USA will be where Russia was in the late 1980s. It will collapse. China will pick over the pieces as it can but will be too crippled to do much.
The Oaficial Narrative will fail for the same reason that USSR communism failed: both large-state communism, and the oaficial narrative with its anointed vaccines, don’t work.
I can never find it online, but I recall learning 20 years ago that Hitler allegedly said that if he and his creeps had been stopped in the streets, they’d never have come to power. This is in response to a comment on the TikTok vakz vid:
“As @ThomasSowell eloquently puts it: “It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance” ”
Which is why a short sweet “FU and the vakzination you rode in on” with a menacing undertone works better. “It’s MY body: wanna piece of it? Want me to force you to receive a dangerous untested medication becaiuse I think you’ll make me sick if you don’t let me ram this lozenge up your cloaca? No? Me neither. Besides, it doesn’t work: you.make.me.sick, period, and I have to rely on my own five-knuckle anti-bodies to make you sick enough to make me feel better. This is NOT a rational conversation because you are so obviously non compos mentis. Lookitup, shitkick.”
The broken windows will not happen in neat orderly rwos this time, not like the BLM orchestration. They will happen wherever people decide a business owner willing to destroy hir business via insane and deadly covid/vakzine/mazk protocols deserves a little help on their way to bankruptcy.
It takes a sick mind to leave the TV on for a dog or cat for 8 hours.
One reason I don’t believe in a totalitarian takeover is because we’ve already lived in one since TV hit critical mass around late 50s/early 60s. We are not, imo, witnessing a totalitarian lockdown or crackdown; we are witnessing a totalitarian breakdown. Huxley ruled on the way up the 20th century Hypnotic Control Contest, but Orwell plans to get his kiicks in on the way down. One thing that angry younguns agree on from neo-nazi to vegan tree-huggers is that Doc Martens are forever cool.
“It’s very difficult for me to trust Reality after all of the awful things it’s done to me.”
Get back to me when gravity fails and you fly off into space. Until then, if you can’t trust reality, trust me. I’m real. I have several clogged-toilet episodes to historically support this assertion.
oroborus: well, to be fair to the unknown and my contrarian nature: some of it IS just coincidence. Reality itself is as much a conspiracy as any boardroom/Pentagon dream scheme.
“A crack in the edifice of tyrannical coercion materialized a few days ago when SecDef Lloyd Austin declared his intention to vax-up the whole military. General David Berger, Commandant of the US Marine Corps, briskly told the SecDef, in effect, to take a flying fuck at a rolling donut. What do you make of that?” (today’s Clusterfuck Nation/Kunstler
Trouble with success is that one becomes a little too fond of one’s own Kool-Aid. If K had replaced “briskly” with “apparently”, he’d at least have weasel room.
Here’s one of the difficult things about democracy and reality in general (which is democratic in a highly Darwinian way): you’re a potential meal on everyone’s radar, including your spouse if you’re not careful. One needs to trust onesel;f first time, every time, and trust others only as a subset of that trust.
But we’re trained to trust authority and doubt ourselves.
“General David Berger, Commandant of the US Marine Corps, briskly told the SecDef, in effect, to take a flying fuck at a rolling donut. What do you make of that? I looked this up on Google and saw it was fact checked false. Does this mean it is true? I’m confused”
I doubt this is deep-faked:
Not that I give a shit:
Fuck the Marines, fuck the Armed Forces. Large institutions are inherently evil by virtue of having gross abstract power, something human beings always use to destroy… especially to destroy that which they previously built. FUCK the AMA, CDC, WHO… hell, fuck TAE. It’s become such an echo chamber that it has attracted de facto trolls and tries to form censorship committees over what are really the silliest trivial issues.
There. I feel better now. A vexing quote:
10-15 years ago, I was researching for a piece of fiction. It fits our current socioeconomic political focus:
“In her research, she’d learned more about man’s inhumanity to man than anyone would want to know, but had also learned much about humanity’s tender humanity to man, and individual courage and determination in the face of agonizing pain and soul-sucking despair.
“The euthanasia fetish began with her discovery of an old Third Reich propaganda film, Ich klage an (1941) by Wolfgang Liebeneiner. Actually an exceptional piece of cinematic art for the time,
it described a woman suffering from MS who decides her life is beyond worth living and begs her husband doctor to euthanize her. Her MS had become so bad she was physically unable to kill herself. It was as complete a depiction of helplessness imaginable. I have no mouth and I must scream; I have no bowels and I must shit. My life has become so useless I ca’t even kill myself.“Ths perfectly, immaculately helpless, the tragic heroine provided the ideal pivot for a movie dialectic purporting to be a balanced debate of the ethics, pro and con, of euthanasia, but only provided a eerily convincing, tear-jerking promotion for killing off genetic undesirables. It was intended to promote the Third Reich’s Action T-4 program, Hitler’s precursor project to the Final Solution. T-4 killed between 75,000 to 250,000 people who allegedly had intellectual or physical disabilities. At first it only removed those with genuinely life-negating disabilities but soon progressed, secretly, of course, to those deemed geneticopolitically undesirable.
“It started with grotesquely and excruciatingly deformed children, many of whose parents agreed with the euthanasia, but rapidly regressed, via Hitler’s 1939 Reich Committee for the Scientific Registering of Serious Hereditary and Congenital Illnesses, to children with only moderate impairments, who would be sent off to “Special Sections” for children where they supposedly would receive improved care. Parents would subsequently receive letters regretfully informing them their child had died of complications, typically pneumonia.
“The program spread to adults and eventually became an open secret. Especially telling was when someone’s uncle or gramps was reported dead of “acute appendicitis” even though his appendix had been removed years before.
“Like all roads leading to hell, it was paved with ironically good intentions. If one wikied the subject, one could read:
“In early October (1939) all hospitals, nursing homes, old-age homes, sanatoria were required to report all patients who had been institutionalized for five years or more, who had been committed as “criminally insane”, who were of “non-Aryan race”, or who had been diagnosed with any of a list of specified conditions. These included schizophrenia, epilepsy, Huntington’s chorea, advanced syphilis, senile dementia, paralysis, encephalitis and “terminal neurological conditions generally”. Many doctors and administrators assumed that the purpose of the reports was to identify inmates who were capable of being drafted for “labour service”. They therefore tended to overstate the degree of incapacity of their patients, to protect them from labour conscription – with fatal consequences.[36] When some institutions, mainly in Catholic areas[citation needed], refused to co-operate, teams of T4 doctors (or in some cases Nazi medical students) visited them and compiled their own lists, sometimes in a very haphazard and ideologically motived way.[37] At the same time, all Jewish patients were removed from institutions and were killed during 1940.[38]”
“What hooked her was learning that the Nazi doctors called the euthanasia of unwanted children “making angels”. It gelled in her mind with her favorite Nathaniel Englander passage, from her favorite story of his, The Tumblers”, about the Nazi death camps: “But there were no snipers, as there are for hands that reach out of the ghettos; no dogs, as for hands that reach out from the cracks in boxcar floors; no angels waiting, as they always do, for hands that reach out from chimneys into ash-clouded skies.”
“Her little angel, half-elf, half-monster, combined fetal alcohol syndrome and William’s syndrome with deformities delivered by Jiminy’s father when he was still in her womb. He’d have been kind of cute if his face hadn’t been pounded as a fetus. The one eye, Jiminy’s right, stared off to the upper right about 20 degrees from forward. It didn’t stay all that still, either; it wandered in its own small private orbit. The other worked hard, to say the least. It expressed intensity, period.”
<end>The gradient is somewhat reversed, however. Covis began with a fanfare but will end, predict moi, with cattle-cars with rusted wheels and Hoovervilles not concentration camps.
USA is a collapsing empire not a growing empire like NAZI Germany was, and Germany took on half the world at once while we can’t even run an opium satrapy in Afghanistan.
On the other hand:
““Getting vaccinated isn’t just a personal decision,” Bettigole told KYW. “It’s a decision that affects all of us.””
Same is true of voting, another virulent copntagion.
On Friday the 13th, this headline is comforting:
“Elites Defect on Vaccine: The Most Educated Americans Are Least Likely to Get Jabbed – Survey”
“Arrest Bill Gates, Klaus schwab, anyone who attends the WEF. See if that has an effect, if not dig deeper.”
We already arrested their pimp. I’d like to see that grave exhumed for DNA analysis.
“His hypothesis (used to try to explain the 62% of his patients that showed signs of clotting (using the D-dymer test) that did not show up on x-rays or other scans) is that the spike proteins are attaching to the ACE2 receptors in very small vessel walls. His theory is that the spikes would disrupt smooth flow of blood and attract platelets, which would cause clots. In the case of very small blood vessels in the lungs, microclots. His theory goes on to suggest this could lead to heart failure from the heart being forced to pump against the resistance caused by these blockages. Another theory has antibodies attacking the spikes on the interior of blood vessel walls & killing the cells that make up your blood vessels, leading to other internal problems.”
If it gets into my lungs, I’m prolly a goner. It’s those “small blood vessels” — like capillaries — that my HHT already compromises and gives me bad nosebleeds.
Only thing to do is live well. Maybe even long and prosperously.
“A Fox News poll contends that a majority of Americans are in SUPPORT of vaccine mandates and the introduction of COVID passports that tie freedoms to vaccination status. The survey found that 50 percent of respondents are in favour of requiring proof of a coronavirus vaccine for “indoor activities such as restaurants, gyms and performances,” while 46% oppose the idea. “
I’m reminded of 911, the war on terror, civil liberties, the Patriot Act, authorizing torture, etc. But back then, almost all of the problems created were overseas. After awhile, they started coming here, beginning with men and women broken in the wars. But it gave us a nice array of enemies out there to focus on rather than deal with ourselves and our commonwealth.
With the war on covid, the problems begin here, immediately, and like the war on terror, only grow worse. But it gives us a nice array of enemies out there to focus on rather than deal with ourselves and our commonwealth.
We can hate Saddam Hussein or the mediaplex telling us to hate him. We can hate molecular nanobots called viruses or the mediaplex telling us to hate them.
Covid is rapidly running out of steam as an Oaficial Narrative. Whom shall we hate next?
Because we’ve got to hate some-one/thing Out There: it’s the only thing we can fully agree on.
“These antibodies then do what they are supposed to do and kill the Covid virus – because, per #1 above – it’s fairly harmless.”
Virulence is often a function of where a bug likes to grow and what it eats/makes in the process. ‘Harmful bug’ does not necessarily mean ‘tough on antibodies’.
Putting aside things like honesty and motive, the logic of trusting a Reliable Source assumes that said source is right all or almost all of the time… which is absurd as absurd can be. At its peak, Scientific American wasn’t this reliable.
No one on this forum is even 90% reliable except in narrow zones, and that is probably pushing it.
But we like central beacons.
Illustrative example: Mormons are taught to follow the path created by Joseph Smith. Joe became a prophet by asking which church he should follow.
“None,” said God.
So Mormons proceed to all follow one faith, that of Joe Smith, rather than find their own. Follow the leader, not the path the leader pointed out.
Eyes looking at the finger not the moon at which it is pointing.
“Are we unwashed masses a viral pathogen infecting the body poltic of the elite, or are they a fatally dangerous experimental vaccine in ours?”
Who came first, the chicken or the egg?
Homer SImpson: Heh. You said who came first. Heh.
Clenis: Heh. You said who came first. Heh.
In a de facto meaningless global culture, any lens large enough will dominate the view. Covid is such a lens, and it has dominated world affairs like nothing since WWII. China shuts down “a container terminal in China’s busiest marine transportation hub which was forced to close after a coronavirus case emerged, as the pandemic strains global supply amid rising retail orders.”
It was “forced” to. The virus has special powers.
“More children are falling ill because more are being infected.”
Well, now we know it’s a contagious disease. Hail The Atlantic! 😉
“Also, I don’t believe that We at TAE, do not have the influence that is needed to effect the path of the med establishment. Why would anyone bother to try to change what we think?”
Some kind of desperation?
A personal emotional dynamic: I find it increasingly easy to not care about folks who insist that a lying gov/corp complex, well known at be a lying gov/corp complex, is more honest than me.
“What do you know?’
‘I know you’re quoting a brain dead idiot (Biden).’
Not that this conversation happened. But it sums up the beginning of personal social anomie in my soul.
I don’t even have a lifeboat yet, and maybe never will. We don’t have money to spare around here. Nonetheless, I’m developing a stern, even cruel attitude: Why the fuck should I let you in my lifewboat? Get your hands off that gunwale or I’ll break it.
I see this dynamic becoming a crucial aspect of all this. Families broken apart. BUsiness partnerships shattered. The Parable of the Grasshopper and the Ants writ large.
“Hold it right there, Buster. Freeze !! Take one more step you and you run the almost certain risk of becoming enlightened.”
You again. How many times I gotta tell you to get your damn lawn offa my kids!?
Posting these links not for their ‘startling revelations’ that are mostly old news to us, but for a sense of history:
A bit of history:
Past vaccine disasters show why rushing a coronavirus vaccine now would be ‘colossally stupid’
Sept 1 2020Quite the time capsule. A lot has happened in the past two years.
P.S. I found the above googling kolya’s paraphrase quote: “if our vaccine is a bit dangerous it’s most likely because of the spike protein and if that’s the case then every other vaccine has the same problem”.
I know of two people who work deep in the belly of two beasts: Boeing and the CDC.
The Boeing person was part of the committee that safety-reviewed Boing’s disastrous 7-something-7. Said that the data given to the committee proved to be incomplete, and the problem is therefore not that person’s fault… which is technically true. This person still works for Boeing but has been seeking work elsewhere… an outfit in Hood River making “killer robots”, and something with Microsoft. Ah, choices.
The other person works for CDC and adamantly defends its covid policies despite ample access to discrediting information.
People’s IDENTITIES are often indistinguishable from their career. After all, they spent 15-19 years earning the education credentials to become a certified ‘important person’, maybe even an Important Person. Then they crawl up the corporate ladder. They’re deeply invested in their perch.
Most people confuse themselves with their identitiy. Losing their identity would feel like death: they have little if any oidea of who/what they are, and their job is everything to their identity.
One can brew a lot of industrial-strength denial from that dynamic.
Obviously Assange won’t get justice. He will probably be exonerated after his death, and become a neutered symbol for something-something-liberty-courage. Maybe they stuff his corpse like they did Hachi:
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deflationista sucks at changing TAE minds and, increasingly, at holding their attention.
“Just keep telling yourselves: You have the truth. Everyone else is being deceived. Trust no one who doesn’t agree with you. Never, ever change your perspective. And always, always go down with the ship. Aye, aye captain.”
That sounds like terrible advice. I hope you don’t follow it?
Moloch: first of the new technogenic viruses
“Together, the biological virus and memetic virus comprise the first species in a new class of technogenic, or “cyborg”, viruses. The memetic vector causes infected minds to avoid the vaccine and group together, enabling the biological vector to spread through unprotected hosts, and the gathering concentrates memetic signals for propagation through social media coverage. The tight coupling between molecular and memetic propagation conveys evolutionary advantages to both viruses. Defeating one requires defeating both.”
Or watch the virus defeat the meme.
Yes, Desdemona Despair carries leftist water overall. Everyone has a bias. Her perspective here is enlightening, for me at least.
