Jul 052018
 


René Magritte The secret player 1927

 

There’s something wonderfully -though at the same time sadly- ironic in simultaneously contemplating America’s Independence Day and Greece’s NO! (OXI!) vote three years ago that was subsequently defeated by it own prime minister, Alexis Tsipras, at the behest of the European Union’s powers that be.

Where Americans managed to break free of their yoke in 1776, the Greeks did not. Indeed, they were betrayed by their own. There are certainly plenty of similarities with the Declaration of Independence to be made, plenty voices and forces that sought to defeat the Founding Fathers. In the end, the result is simple: the Americans succeeded in breaking free, the Greeks did not.

It’s just that this is not where the story halts; it’s not the whole story. You can say that the Greeks are not independent while the Americans are, but that is true in name only. What does that famous American independence consist of?

How free and independent are Americans really today? In 1956, Dwight Eisenhower famously talked about the military-industrial complex that the nation should beware of, but 62 years later is seems safe to say his warning was not heeded.

Donald Trump ran on a non-interventionist platform, but the military-industrial complex appears to have him gift-wrapped up and ready for delivery a year and a half into his presidency. Under Trump, the US have dropped more bombs than even under Obama, no small feat.

It is of course well understood that if you justify such action properly through the media, the people will buy about anything when it comes to waging war abroad, but it’s still not what people voted for. They are not independent of the war machine.

And you can take this one step further. You can ask how independent a nation can really be if its citizens never learn to have independent thought, if they are deliberately never taught how to think for themselves. How can you be independent if and when other people define your thought and views?

Every single American and European must recognize at least part of Caitlin Johnstone’s Babies. It may read as if it’s describing some Chinese or Soviet system, or even Huxley or Orwell, but there’s not really any plausible denial that at least some of what she says resonates with you:

 

Babies

When a baby is born, its parents teach it how to eat solid foods and walk and talk, which generally works out fine. Then they start teaching the baby all the lies their parents taught them, and things start to get messy. When the baby is old enough, they send it to school, where it spends twelve years being taught lies about how the world works so that one day it will be able to watch CNN and say “Yes, this makes perfect sense” instead of “This is ridiculous” or “Why does this whole entire thing seem completely fake?” or “I want to punch Chris Cuomo in the throat.”

The baby is taught history, which is the study of the ancient, leftover propaganda from whichever civilization happened to win the wars in a given place at a given time. The baby is taught geography, so that later on when its country begins bombing another country, the baby’s country won’t be embarrassed if its citizens cannot find that country on a globe. The baby is taught obedience, and the importance of performing meaningless tasks in a timely manner.

This prepares the baby for the half century of pointless gear-turning it will be expected to undertake after graduation. The baby is taught that it lives in a free country, with a legitimate electoral system which facilitates meaningful elections of actual representatives in a real government. It is never taught that those elections, representatives and government are all owned and operated by the very rich, who use them to ensure policies which make them even richer while keeping everyone else as poor as possible so that they won’t have to share political power.

And so you get to, have to, wonder if this is what the Founding Fathers would have wanted. Were they intending for America to be a nation filled with obedient sheeple? Since they themselves were revolting against a power that wanted for them to be just that, it doesn’t seem likely.

Beyond the issue of slavery, which would take another 90 years to come on the agenda, and another 90 after that to lead to the abolishment of racial separation (and likely another 90 for the next step), the Fathers appear to have sought actual independence. There are precious few signs that they would have looked kindly upon the military-industrial complex.

Or the existing political parties for that matter, replete with ‘life-long’ politicians who label themselves ‘public servants’ but whose careers depend entirely on lobbyists and the corporate powers they serve, which donate the campaign cash needed to get the ‘public servants’ elected and re-elected.

Power corrupts absolutely. And it crushes independence. Since all US politicians need corporate money to build and sustain their careers, isn’t it ironic that they, too, would celebrate Independence Day? Independent from what?

Sure, you can celebrate that you no longer depend on British rule, and their tea, but if and when you simply swap one dependency for another, what does the word independence even mean any more?

At least that’s something the Greeks have an answer to. They depend on Europe’s largest nations and their banks. They had a chance to break that dependency, and voted to do exactly that, only to see their Independence Day crushed by the first prime minister in decades who was not part of an age-old corrupt system.

Their quiet despair should be shared by Americans too, who are free and independent men and women in name only, and who depend on Washington and Wall Street’s deeply entrenched power brokers perhaps more then ever in their history.

The Greeks have no options left; they voted for the one independent party there was three years ago, and were betrayed with a kiss. America voted Trump into the White House and though he seemed independent, he also seems to have been eaten alive by the Deep State and the war machine.

Independence appears to mean, first of all, not relying on entrenched power blocks for your lives and livelihoods, the ability to make your own decisions, to reap the fruit of your own labor. Has America been further away from that at any time since 1776 than it is today?

 

 

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    René Magritte The secret player 1927   There’s something wonderfully -though at the same time sadly- ironic in simultaneously contemplating Ameri
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    V. Arnold
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    I, most assuredly, do not celebrate July 4th anything.
    CJ’s article is all about control. And that is achieved throught forced, public education/indoctrination.
    The whole system is based on the Hindu model, which teaches docility; how the hell does one think the cast system in India survived for, how long? 1,000, 2,000 or more years? Hell, it still exists today!
    I could rail on for pages; but it’s getting late, so I won’t.
    If one wants to know how we arrived here, look no further than the forced, public educational system; it is the root of our problems. Yes, it is…

    By the way, Magritte’s painting, The Secret Player, is very spooky for 1927. Surrealist at least…

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    V. Arnold
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    Where Americans managed to break free of their yoke in 1776, the Greeks did not.

    I’m not so sure that is true. I’m not even convinced we had a revolution.
    Maybe a coup.
    And if that’s true, then we’ve been living a myth for 242 years.
    A whole system built on a myth.
    Kinda asks, what’s real? Nothing?
    Everything is real except for your beliefs; dump them and discover the world…

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    earth999
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    V.Arnold says “The whole system is based on the Hindu model, which teaches docility”.

    Hello Mr. V.Arnold, I dont know your culture and country of origin. Without knowing fully about the “hindu Caste system” You have “NO BUSINESS” writing such comments. Hinduism is the “MOST NOBLEST” of all religions today.
    It believes in understanding oneself, living in harmony wth nature and respect of all individuals. The “caste system” of VEDAS is not set in stone. It says a “brahmin should have certain characteristics” to be called a brahmin and so on. Also the the caste system allows for conversion (voluntarily – NO forced conversion) if a person or their family so chooses to convert from one caste to another.

    YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE on HINDUISM and writing about the same is unfortunate. Please educate yourself about HINDUISM FULLY before casting aspersions.

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    Diogenes Shrugged
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    Independent from what? Independent from the truth. We’re FREE to adhere to the official misconceptions, though. The term for that is “patriotism.”

    Just look at who writes the history books, who teaches the official history, and whose power is preserved through a history of censorship and lies. A population that thinks itself free by definition is a population deceived.

    If you have the time, only the first 12 minutes:

    Again, if you have the time, just the first 17:

    “Power never leaves the posterity.”

    https://i0.wp.com/fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Left-Right-Wing.jpg

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    barnaby33
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    Ilargi, based on your definition, nobody is free. All societies have rules. Anarchy and complexity are each others enemies. Now it would be morally correct and quite observant were you to tie our obedience to the complexity and alternately our fear of simplifying that our societies desperately need, but you didn’t do that.

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    V. Arnold
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    Diogenes Shrugged
    Independent from what? Independent from the truth. We’re FREE to adhere to the official misconceptions, though. The term for that is “patriotism.”

    Indeed.
    Freedom is another concept little understood.

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    Hotrod
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    Who could have predicted Trump would turn out to be a carnival barker, surrounding himself with the “best and brightest” scumbags known to man (Bolton, Kudlow, et al). He is a charlatan, at best.

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    Dr. D
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    Interesting points. It’s all myth, or at least history is: you couldn’t fit what really happened, what every person really thought, believed, and tried into a book. But leaving it out in any coherent way is a lie by omission. It can’t be helped. What is the quote? “You can’t get wet from the word ‘water.'” – Alan Watts A book on history is not history. We can’t know that. If you follow “Hamilton” there are two significant sections where Miranda (Chernow) has to add ‘we don’t know. No one wrote it. They weren’t in “the Room Where It Happened.” Most of history is like that.

    Long way round as usual to say, all revolutions are ‘coups’. Or in our case, not exactly a coup because we had no interest in toppling the King or taking India and Gibraltar. Did forces such as France help us? Obviously. Did more hidden powers agitate and interefere? You can see some of them in the sympathies of Parlaiment. How about super-secret, unknown forces? Well all of D.C. was laid out on Masonic architectural references, no joke, so you be the judge if they had underlying debts to pay.

    But that would be the same as every other war or revolution ever. What we can’t know is what they INTENDED. Who intended? The Silversmith? The Tailor? The Brewer? What Jefferson intended or what Adams intended? Samuel or John? See the problem? Suppose Washington was a straight-up agent of the Masons or some secret, evil order we don’t know, AND he promised to deliver the whole Continent into the hands of Cthulhu. Could he do it? No. He could pull and influence it — which is significant — but he couldn’t do it alone. He needs some form of quorum, some majority of the power nexus points as the Deep State has today, and like today, even that is not enough.

    But it’s disingenuous to say the Revolution was a scam, or that we’re totally free or totally not free — it’s childish thinking. No one is free, whether under governments or under anarchy, because there are always limits and consequences, there are only levels. And because 40 years is not long enough even reading the Cliff Notes that are books, no one can communicate the “truth” of history, only some aspect of it that can’t be tested or proven, and those are the limits of knowledge. In that the map is not the territory, and we have no way to send surveyors into the past, doesn’t mean the map is useless or imaginary. It’s just less than perfect like every other map ever made.

    My unproven, unfounded feeling is that the Revolution was a set up from behind to overthrow Kings and set up an empire of man. However to get adequate buy-in they had to offer a great deal of good, and less bad than they would have liked. The Founders took them up on the offer, not in one smoky room, but over time, incompletely, each in their own struggle. Once liberated though, they generally rebelled against the intent of their backers and stopped them out of power, but not completely, just as today there is a 50-year hidden struggle of the Neocon police state and the American democratic state. Since then, at various times, one or another has managed to get their foot forward and take ground, (like Hamilton’s centralization and Quincy’s oligarch track) only to lose it again under a Jackson or a Teddy. Those have their own effect, like Lincoln preventing the recapture of America by breaking it into Euro-attackable pieces, yet Lincoln’s federal primacy itself got the whole ship captured later on. History is complex that way, no one’s on top. There is no pure good or bad, but only men, trying things.

    So are we free or not free? Yes. Same as 5,000 years. Is it a lie or not a lie? Yes. Same as 5,000 years. But the thing we did here was to try something, to aspire to have things be better, and as you see today, to keep fighting for it, fighting and fighting and fighting and not giving up on our values and our intent even when we are today captured, abused and vilified by all. A lot of nations give up. France in 1870 didn’t care anymore, Venezuela today. And Greece to some extent tolerates what Americans wouldn’t, and didn’t burn the place down when Varofakis’ plausible new ideas were booted out and German occupation began killing thousands. That’s up to them, I have no opinion with Turkey looming over them on the leash and the Serbian example showing what NATO can do, but we Americans TRIED, and we still try today. Try to see the good in man, or what the other guy is up against before you tell the bloodied boxer how he falls short.

    “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” –Theodore Roosevelt

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