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Gordon Parks A scene at the Fulton Fish Market, New York Jun 1943

 

Cancel Everything (Mounk)
An Italian Financial Crisis Is Certain – But How Contagious Will It Be? (G.)
Johns Hopkins Doctor: ‘What Happened In Wuhan Could Happen Here’ (CNBC)
Johns Hopkins Doctor: ‘What Happened In Wuhan Could Happen Here’ (CNBC)
Leaked: US Hospitals Prep For 96 Million Infections & 480k Deaths (SHTF)
Merkel Expects 60-70% Of Germans To Be Infected With Coronavirus (PJW)
China Eases Curbs As Infections Retreat, Imported Cases Tick Up (R.)
Pope Francis Tells Clergy To Go To Sick People, Defying Italy’s Lockdown (RT)
Air Freight Rates Skyrocket As Passenger Flights Cut, China Restarts (R.)
Pollution Cuts May Mean Coronavirus Saves More Lives Than It Costs (F.)
Customs and Border Protection Agents Quarantined At DC Airport (Attkisson)
Things Take a Turn (Kunstler)
Weinstein Sent Desperate Emails to Mike Bloomberg, Tim Cook, Jeff Bezos (V.)
All-Star Warmonger Lindsey Graham Urges NATO: Get More Involved In Idlib (RT)
Putin Backs Proposal Allowing Him To Remain In Power Beyond 2024 (G.)
The Waters Parted For Joe Biden (IC)
Twitter ‘Manipulated’ Tag For Trump’s Biden Video Manipulates US Electorate (RT)
Hunter Biden Aims to Skip Court Appearance, Cites Corona, Pregnant Wife (FB)

 

 

Cases 119,389 (+ 4,775 from yesterday’s 114,614)

Deaths 4,300 (+ 270 from yesterday’s 4,030)

 

It appears to be a day of minor milestones, as the US first goes over 1,000 cases (31 deaths), the death toll outside China passes 1,000, and Italy has over 10,000 infections, 2nd only to China

Someone made a graph that illustrates my point in The Virus is a Time Machine, that the virus’ progress moves in waves:

“France, Spain and Germany are about 9 to 10 days behind Italy in #COVID19 progression; the UK and the US follow at 13 to 16 days. In Italy we waited too long, these countries should really start implementing aggressive containment measures now.”

It may well be too late for those containment measures at this stage, even if New York creates a containment zone in New Rochelle. I’m not sure about the US in this graph anyway, I’m still tempted to log it in with France, Spain and Germany, rather than the UK. Let’s see in the rest of this week.

 

 

On the same topic::

 

As is obvious from last night’s Worldometer data, the rise in infections has definitely shifted to Europe for now, with France and Spain “leading the way”, and Scandinavia having lift-off, with Denmark cases more than doubled overnight. Denmark, Sweden and Norway now have over 1,100 cases and not one death.

From Worldometer yesterday evening (before their day’s close)

 

 

We have an idea by now how poorly the US is testing, but what are the Scandinavians doing?

 

 

From SCMP:

 

 

From Worldometer:

 

 

From COVID2019.app:

 

 

 

 

Same graph again. Waves. Good example from 1918 Philly vs St. Louis.

Cancel Everything (Mounk)

We don’t yet know the full ramifications of the novel coronavirus. But three crucial facts have become clear in the first months of this extraordinary global event. And what they add up to is not an invocation to stay calm, as so many politicians around the globe are incessantly suggesting; it is, on the contrary, the case for changing our behavior in radical ways—right now. The first fact is that, at least in the initial stages, documented cases of COVID-19 seem to increase in exponential fashion. On the 23rd of January, China’s Hubei province, which contains the city of Wuhan, had 444 confirmed COVID-19 cases. A week later, by the 30th of January, it had 4,903 cases. Another week later, by the 6th of February, it had 22,112. The same story is now playing out in other countries around the world.

Italy had 62 identified cases of COVID-19 on the 22nd of February. It had 888 cases by the 29th of February, and 4,636 by the 6th of March. Because the United States has been extremely sluggish in testing patients for the coronavirus, the official tally of 604 likely represents a fraction of the real caseload. But even if we take this number at face value, it suggests that we should prepare to have up to 10 times as many cases a week from today, and up to 100 times as many cases two weeks from today. The second fact is that this disease is deadlier than the flu, to which the honestly ill-informed and the wantonly irresponsible insist on comparing it. Early guesstimates, made before data were widely available, suggested that the fatality rate for the coronavirus might wind up being about 1 percent. If that guess proves true, the coronavirus is 10 times as deadly as the flu.

[..] so far only one measure has been effective against the coronavirus: extreme social distancing. Before China canceled all public gatherings, asked most citizens to self-quarantine, and sealed off the most heavily affected region, the virus was spreading in exponential fashion. Once the government imposed social distancing, the number of new cases leveled off; now, at least according to official statistics, every day brings more news of existing patients who are healed than of patients who are newly infected. A few other countries have taken energetic steps to increase social distancing before the epidemic reached devastating proportions. In Singapore, for example, the government quickly canceled public events and installed medical stations to measure the body temperature of passersby while private companies handed out free hand sanitizer. As a result, the number of cases has grown much more slowly than in nearby countries.

[..] hen the influenza epidemic of 1918 infected a quarter of the U.S. population, killing tens of millions of people, seemingly small choices made the difference between life and death. As the disease was spreading, Wilmer Krusen, Philadelphia’s health commissioner, allowed a huge parade to take place on September 28; some 200,000 people marched. In the following days and weeks, the bodies piled up in the city’s morgues. By the end of the season, 12,000 residents had died. In St. Louis, a public-health commissioner named Max Starkloff decided to shut the city down. Ignoring the objections of influential businessmen, he closed the city’s schools, bars, cinemas, and sporting events. Thanks to his bold and unpopular actions, the per capita fatality rate in St. Louis was half that of Philadelphia. (In total, roughly 1,700 people died from influenza in St Louis.)

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The finance guys want their “normal” back. But money won’t cure this. And certainly not after the fact. “Bank of England cuts rate from 0.75% to 0.25%, Europe sets up $25 billion fund”, no use.

An Italian Financial Crisis Is Certain – But How Contagious Will It Be? (G.)

The decision by the Italian government to suspend mortgage payments for its quarantined citizens is a drastic step in the battle to mitigate the impact of the coronavirus but is commensurate with the predicament the country finds itself in. Italy is the eurozone’s weak link. Even before the current lockdown it was facing a fourth recession in little more than a decade and there has been only minimal growth in living standards in two decades. Its manufacturing sector is dominated by low-cost producers vulnerable to disruption in the global supply chain. Government debt is high and its banking system is weak. And it is a strategically important economy: the eurozone’s third biggest . Put simply, if there was one EU country that the European commission and the ECB would have chosen to avoid a severe outbreak of the coronavirus it would have been Italy.


The issue is not whether Italy will have a recession. With schools, universities, theatres and cinemas shut and its hugely-important tourist industry facing a washout summer, the economy is going to shrink in both the first and second quarters of 2020. Nor is it really a question of how deep the downturn will be – although the early estimates are that it is going to be a bad one. Jack Allen-Reynolds, senior European economist at Capital Economics, thinks the economy will shrink by 1% in the first three months of the year and by a further 1.5% in the second quarter. But that assumes the quarantine lasts until the end of April and is then gradually lifted. Were the economy to remain effectively immobilised until the end of June, Allen-Reynolds says there could be a 4.5% drop in output in the second quarter.


Death rate in Lombardy: 8.1%. Rest of Italy: 3.7%

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US health care will be overrun. In for profit health care, contingency is anathema.

Johns Hopkins Doctor: ‘What Happened In Wuhan Could Happen Here’ (CNBC)

The coronavirus outbreak in the U.S. could grow to be as serious as it is in Wuhan, China, Johns Hopkins University Dr. Marty Makary told CNBC on Tuesday. “What happened in Wuhan could happen here. Why do we think otherwise?” Makary said on “Squawk Box,” referencing the Chinese city where the new virus originated in December. The city of 11 million people was locked down on an unprecedented scale as the outbreak intensified. It remains on lockdown even as new cases in the region decline. New cases in Wuhan and its surrounding Hubei province have dropped to below 50 a day, according to figures from the Chinese government, even as the disease spreads at greater rates across the globe. “The American immune system is not stronger than the Chinese immune system,” said Makary, a surgeon and professor of health policy and management.


“Viruses don’t care about politics and they don’t care about location.” [..] There are now more than 750 confirmed cases in the U.S., with 26 deaths. “We need to tell people right now to stop all nonessential travel. I feel strongly about that,” Makary said, adding he does not “like the idea of talking about contingency plans, but we’ve got to start making these plans.” “We’ve got to brace for a three-month problem..” Makary urged that the U.S. should take the disease more seriously, saying he’s was worried about the capacity of the nation’s health-care system to handle a serious spike in cases. America has about 100,000 intensive care unit beds that “operate at full capacity or near full capacity,” he said. “If we get 200,000 critical care cases, we’re going to be overrun,” he warned. “So we need to do more.”

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An 0.5% death rate. Optimism galore. But these numbers should be public, people need to understand how bad things can get. Thing is, media and politics play a role that forbids it.

Leaked: US Hospitals Prep For 96 Million Infections & 480k Deaths (SHTF)

Leaked medical conference documents have warned that hospitals across the United States are preparing for 96 million coronavirus infections. Not only that, but the same document wants hospitals to make preparations for 480,000 deaths from this outbreak. .. the American Hospital Association (AHA) conference in February reveal that US hospitals are preparing for: – 96 million coronavirus infections – 4.8 million hospitalizations from the infection – 480,000 deaths in the United States

According to Business Insider, these leaked documents are telling. Dr. James Lawler, a professor at the University of Nebraska Medical Center, presented the harrowing “best guess” estimates of the extent of the outbreak to hospitals and health professionals as part of the AHA webinar called What Healthcare Leaders Need to Know: Preparing for the COVID-19 on February 26. These documents paint a bleaker picture for those who are over the age of 60. According to the leaked documents: People aged 80 and over have a 14.8% chance of dying if they contract the infection, the slides revealed. The risk declines with youth, though those aged 70-79 and 60-69 are still placed at a significant risk, with 8% and 3.6% mortality rates respectively. –Business Insider

Additionally, it’s worth noting that Dr. Lawler’s estimate of 480,000 deaths would indicate a death rate of just half a percent (0.5%), which is significantly lower than death rates being reported by the WHO (3.4%) and the nation of Italy (5%). If the death rate in the United States reached just 2% while 96 million Americans are infected, that would result in 1.92 million deaths. The United States has fewer than one million hospital beds, and they are typically around 75% occupied by existing patients, unrelated to the coronavirus. Natural News has calculated that U.S. hospital beds will be overrun by May 30th if nothing is done to stop the exponential spread of the coronavirus.

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53 million infected. At a 1% death rate, that means….

Merkel Expects 60-70% Of Germans To Be Infected With Coronavirus (PJW)

Angela Merkel says she expects around 60-70 per cent of Germans will be infected with the coronavirus, which equates to about 53 million people. Reportedly, the German Parliament fell completely silent when Merkel stated the number. News outlet Bild reported the German Chancellor’s comments, which echoed numbers forecast by Berlin virologist Christian Drosten, who added that such a total could take 2 years or longer to reach. Given the fact that coronavirus has a mortality rate of around 1 per cent, this could equate to over half a million deaths, although new methods of fighting the virus could reduce this number.


The World Health Organization’s director general, Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus claimed that the death rate was higher at 3.4 per cent, although this has been disputed. Germany, which has recorded 1,565 coronavirus cases and two deaths so far, has yet to impose the kind of quarantine measures seen in Italy, where the entire country has been placed on lockdown. German health authorities have said that people should avoid attending concerts, clubs or football games to limit the spread of the illness.

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I hadn’t heard from Osterholm in years.

This Is A Coronavirus Winter, And We’re In The First Week (CNBC)

The U.S. is not prepared for what is coming as COVID-19 spreads rapidly across the country, public health and infectious disease specialist Michael Osterholm told CNBC on Tuesday. The virus has surpassed the containment stage, he said, and the U.S. government is not responding appropriately for the magnitude of spread the country will likely see. “Right now we’re approaching this like it’s the Washington, D.C., blizzard — for a couple days we’re shut down,” the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota said in a “Squawk Box” interview. “This is actually a coronavirus winter and we’re in the first week.”

The U.S. is not containing the virus, Osterholm added, warning that it is substantially more contagious than some U.S. officials have warned. He said the most important thing is to protect people who are most at risk of dying from the virus, mostly older people and those with underlying health conditions. “This is just going to keep spreading. We have to stop fooling people into thinking this is only by close contact where I have to be within 2 or 3 feet. We’re going to see much more transmission,” he said. “There will be widespread transmission of this virus around the country, and what we have to do is keep people who are at high risk of having bad outcomes, older, underlying health conditions, from being exposed.”

Osterholm called on U.S. officials to more clearly communicate to the American public the threat COVID-19 poses. “What I find really concerning is we’ve really not set the agenda here for the American public I think in a realistic way,” he said. “We’re going to see transmission for many, many more weeks to come,” Osterholm said. “We have to prepare for that.”

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“Total infections in mainland China stood at 80,778″… “79 of overall cases in China have come from abroad..”

Say no more: “Imported Cases Tick Up”…

China Eases Curbs As Infections Retreat, Imported Cases Tick Up (R.)

More places in China lowered emergency response levels to the coronavirus epidemic and relaxed travel restrictions a day after President Xi Jinping visited the epicenter of the outbreak, signaling authorities were turning the tide. Total infections in mainland China stood at 80,778 with 24 new cases by Tuesday, while 22 more deaths took the toll to 3,158, the National Health Commission said on Wednesday. All the latest deaths occurred in Wuhan, the central city which was visited by Xi for the first time on Tuesday since the outbreak began there in December. Home to 11 million people, the provincial capital of Hubei province was placed in lockdown in late January. The most encouraging trend to be taken from the latest infection figures, was lower rate of transmission within communities in China as 10 of Tuesday’s 24 new cases involved people traveling from abroad.


Currently, just 79 of overall cases in China have come from abroad, but as that number increases, authorities are turning their focus on how to deal with that risk. The capital of Beijing saw six new cases on Tuesday involving individuals who traveled from Italy and the United States, while Shanghai had two imported infections, Shandong province one and Gansu province one. Taiwan too has begun reporting an uptick in imported cases. The government said on Wednesday the island’s 48th case was a woman in her 30s who had returned from holiday in Britain and had most likely been infected while overseas. New infections in Hubei continued to stabilize, with new cases declining for the sixth day. All 13 new cases in Hubei were recorded in Wuhan. Amid slowing domestic infections, a few cities in Hubei have started to ease curbs on movement of people and goods.

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Greek church does the same. G-d will save you if he wants to.

Pope Francis Tells Clergy To Go To Sick People, Defying Italy’s Lockdown (RT)

As Italy scrambles to enact strict quarantine measures to stem the rampant spread of the coronavirus, Pope Francis is issuing a very different directive to the priests under his command: get out and be with those who are sick. At a personal mass on Tuesday morning, and as Italy enters a complete lockdown, the Holy See implored clergymen to “have the courage to go out and go to the sick people.” The Pope’s remarks starkly contradict all the core advice administered by the Italian government – namely to stay home and not to travel unless it’s a medical emergency. With the highest death toll outside of mainland China – hiking from 463 to 631 on Tuesday – Italy is rightly concerned that it could become the super-spreader of Europe.


So why has arguably the most influential religious leader on the planet shunned the expert advice and sent his priests out into this new world of contagion? Well, no-one is quite sure. On other occasions, Francis has been exceedingly health-conscious. He has missed several engagements, live-streamed his general audience events and even ordered a cut-back on the mass gathering of pilgrims. But with today’s short remarks, the Pope has laid waste both to the safety of his own priests and to the many others who may catch the virus as a result of the ministry visits. The Pope’s comments speak of a depressingly common thread running through the response of many religious groups to the Covid-19 outbreak.

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Put your 737 MAX’s to good use.

Air Freight Rates Skyrocket As Passenger Flights Cut, China Restarts (R.)

Air freight rates are skyrocketing after the grounding of many passenger flights in Asia has left shippers scrambling to book limited spots on cargo planes as Chinese industrial production restarts, according to industry insiders. About half of the air cargo carried worldwide normally flies in the belly of passenger jets rather than in dedicated freighters. But deep flight cuts in response to the coronavirus outbreak have made the market more dependent on freight haulers. Freight forwarder Agility Logistics said on its website that China’s air cargo capacity was down 39% in February relative to last year because of the passenger flight cuts.


Shippers wishing to rush products out of China by air face sticker shock, said Refael Elbaz, chief executive of Israel-based Unicargo, which specializes in freight forwarding for Amazon.com sellers. “The price is three times higher – at least – because there is just no capacity,” Elbaz said. Freight Investor Services said in an update to clients on Monday that cargo pricing on China-to-U.S. routes had reached “abnormal highs” and that intra-Asia traffic was up by 22% over the previous week. TAC Index data shows China-U.S. cargo rates have risen by 27% over the last two weeks to $3.50 a kilogram.

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Silver lining. But it won’t last: they’re all already geared towards burn baby burn again.

Pollution Cuts May Mean Coronavirus Saves More Lives Than It Costs (F.)

The global lockdown inspired by the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, has shuttered factories and reduced travel, slashing lethal pollution including the greenhouse gases that are heating the climate. The lockdown may save more lives from pollution reduction than are threatened by the virus itself, said François Gemenne, director of The Hugo Observatory, which studies the interactions between environmental changes, human migration, and politics. “Strangely enough, I think the death toll of the coronavirus at the end of the day might be positive, if you consider the deaths from atmospheric pollution,” said Gemenne, citing, for example, the 84,000 people who die annually in France because of atmospheric pollution and the more than one million in China.


Scientists estimate the U.S. death toll from air pollution at more than 100,000 per year, and the World Health Organization estimates the global toll at 7 million. The global death toll of the pandemic remains largely a matter of conjecture. The most dramatic projections that have been released—too hastily to be peer reviewed—put the global death toll of an unchecked pandemic in the millions total—not annual. Most credible estimates are much less. Some experts have compared it to the 1957 flu outbreak that killed just over 1 million. Reductions in air pollution and global heating could save more lives. “More than likely the number of lives that would be spared because of these confinement measures would be higher than the number of lives that would be lost because of the pandemic,” Gemenne said in an appearance on France 24’s The Debate.

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Infecting tourists, are we?

Customs and Border Protection Agents Quarantined At DC Airport (Attkisson)

Five Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers at Dulles International Airport have been ordered to self-quarantine due to possible coronavirus exposure. The information was provided late Tuesday during an official briefing for members of Congress, Just the News has learned. One CBP National Targeting Center (NTC) officer was also ordered to self-quarantine. The NTC center in Sterling, Virginia, works to “catch travelers and detect cargo that threaten our country’s security.” All six CBP officers have reportedly been told to isolate themselves until March 14. Several additional coronavirus deaths were reported in the U.S. late Tuesday. Most of the fatalities to date have occurred among the elderly in Washington State in nursing homes and long-term care facilities. Officials say there have been no serious cases or deaths reported among young Americans.

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“..a world made by hand..”

Things Take a Turn (Kunstler)

The new disposition of things is upon us, and the sooner we get with the program, the better. Welcome to The Long Emergency and its aftermath, a world made by hand. Expect that a lot of things crashing, grinding to a halt, and falling to pieces will not get patched back together and restarted. When the dust settles from all that, we’ll discover one of the primary conditions of the new era: we’re poorer — a lot of what we took to be money, or things that represented money, were figments. “Money” itself, as manifested in currencies, may become a slippery concept, with low credibility. If that’s the case, people ought to ask themselves: how can I be useful or helpful to the others around me in a way that will raise my own social capital and accumulate, at least, the good will of these other people, and perhaps some of their help or service in return for mine?

That is the beginning of building a local community — people bound together by mutual obligations, responsibilities, duties, and rewards. We’re lucky for one thing: this crisis of advanced civilization is striking at the very start of the planting season. If you’re prudent, you can begin at once to organize serious gardening efforts, if you live in a part of the country where that is possible. I’d go heavy on the potatoes, cabbages, winter squashes, and beans, because they’re all keepers over winter. Baby chicks sell at the local ag stores for a few bucks each now and you’ll be very grateful for the eggs. Get a rooster — even though they can be a pain-in-the-ass — and you won’t have to buy any more chicks.

If you live in a part of the country where the terrain is rugged and well-watered — as I do — start scoping out local hydro sites that might potentially generate electricity or drive machinery directly from water power. We will probably need more of that. Around here many of those sites are signified by the ruins of decommissioned factories and hydro-stations from not much more than a century ago. They were originally built with a lot less machine power than we would use today, and a lot more power of men working in groups. We’ve forgotten how effective men can be working together with pretty simple tools. We were too busy devaluing men in recent decades for the sake of a moral crusade to erase “gender” differences. Well, that will be bygone so fast your head will spin.

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Throw away the key please.

Weinstein Sent Desperate Emails to Mike Bloomberg, Tim Cook, Jeff Bezos (V.)

Newly unsealed court documents put Harvey Weinstein’s Rolodex on full display. The fallen movie mogul — who is now a convicted rapist facing up to 29 years in jail and will be sentenced Wednesday — once tried to save his career by emailing his famous peers, including billionaires, powerful agents and Hollywood titans. In emails, reviewed by Variety on Tuesday afternoon at the New York City criminal courthouse, where roughly 1,000 pages of documents were unsealed, Weinstein wrote to the likes of Michael Bloomberg, Quentin Tarantino, Netflix’s Ted Sarandos, Amazon’s Jeff Bezos and Apple’s Tim Cook and Eddy Cue. The documents made available by the court did not include any responses from these people to Weinstein.

The New York Times broke its bombshell story, which revealed decades of allegations of sexual harassment against Weinstein, on Oct. 5, 2017. Just days later, on Oct. 8, Weinstein sent out a flurry of emails to his powerful contacts, pleading for help to revive his career, and urging people to quickly send him letters of support. That same day, Weinstein was forced out of his own company. Writing to the heads of Apple, Cook and Cue, Weinstein said, “I don’t need you to make any public statements — just a private one to my gmail address, saying that you support me getting therapy and the help I need before the board fires me. I’m in a tough spot. Many of the allegations are false, but I need your help with this private letter of support. I’m going to get well, and if I pass the therapist test, then we can talk about reinstatement et cetera.

But for now, I’m going to take a leave of absence and get healthy. If they fire me now, it’ll destroy me personally and cause a huge legal battle, based on my rights with the company. But if I have support from someone like you getting me going into treatment and having the shot at a second chance (because people deserve a second chance), it would be very helpful. I would need something today if you can — I so appreciate it.”

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War to deflect attention away from the virus? The risk is too great that troops infect each other.

All-Star Warmonger Lindsey Graham Urges NATO: Get More Involved In Idlib (RT)

Veteran chickenhawk Lindsey Graham once again beat his over-used war drum, this time because he wants NATO to get involved in Idlib, Syria to stop “Syrian aggression.” Yes, when will Syria stop intervening in its own country? The South Carolina senator said that he fully supports US President Donald Trump’s efforts to “get NATO more involved in Syria,” arguing that the defensive alliance should aid Turkey as it “defends Idlib against Russian/Syrian aggression.” He further argued that the “fall” of Idlib would result in a humanitarian crisis felt around the world, which is why NATO should be more “supportive” of its Turkish ally. The senior statesman apparently doesn’t seem particularly fazed by the fact that Idlib is part of Syria – making accusations of “Syrian aggression” slightly nonsensical.


The province is now home to the last bastion of extremist jihadist militias, some of which are directly affiliated with Al-Qaeda. This is hardly the first time that the US hawk has demanded direct intervention in Idlib. In February, he called on the Pentagon to impose a no-fly zone over the Syrian province, claiming it would help stop the “destruction” of Idlib by Syrian, Iranian, and Russian forces. As far back as September, Graham was issuing statements warning over “the wholesale massacre” of civilians in Idlib, insisting that “we either act now [in Syria] or pay a heavy price later.” The senator’s melodramatic representation of a terrorist-infested Syrian province being under siege by the Syrian military shouldn’t come as a surprise to US political observers. Graham has been portrayed as part of former Arizona Senator John McCain’s “foreign policy club” – a euphemism for hardcore neocon interventionism.

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After years of anti-Putin rhetoric it’s lost on westerners, but Putin would love to retire to his dasha. Only, he’s afraid the neocons would jump in as soon as he does, and there’s no-one ready to take his place to defend his beloved motherland. Yeah, that’s pretty tragic in a way.

Putin Backs Proposal Allowing Him To Remain In Power Beyond 2024 (G.)

Vladimir Putin has moved to cement his hold on power in Russia beyond the middle of the decade, backing a proposed constitutional amendment that would allow him to seek another two terms in the Kremlin. The Russian president is required by the constitution to step down in 2024, and there have been months of conjecture about how he could stay in power beyond then, or at least ensure a safe transition for himself. In the end, the puzzle was resolved in an afternoon, in a series of choreographed political steps that took just over three hours and could result in Putin staying on as president until 2036.

The venture began in parliament, where a member of Russia’s ruling party proposed amending the constitution in a way that would “reset” Putin’s presidential term count back to zero. Putin then announced he would come to address the parliament himself, prompting breathless coverage on state television about whether he would accept or turn down the proposal. “In principle, this option would be possible,” he said at the end of a half-hour speech. “But on one condition – if the constitutional court gives an official ruling that such an amendment would not contradict the principles and main provisions of the constitution.” He also said the move would have to be approved by the public in a referendum next month.

[..] In January, he told a veteran of the second world war that he was worried about a return to the 80s, when Kremlin leaders “stayed in power until the end of their days” and did not provide for a transition of power. On Tuesday, he walked back that statement, saying that modern Russia’s elections made it impossible to return to a Soviet-style procession of leaders-for-life. “I won’t hide that I was wrong,” he said. “It was an incorrect statement because during the Soviet Union there were no elections.” [..] It is unclear whether Putin had planned to stay on as president all along or had come to the decision more recently. In his speech, he said he hoped that one day the institution of the presidency in Russia would not be “so personified in a single person”, but added: “that is how all of our history ended up and of course we can’t not take that into account”.

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Yes, it went very fast.

The Waters Parted For Joe Biden (IC)

It feels like the closing of a loop. In March 1988, a dramatic upset in Michigan by the Rev. Jesse Jackson’s presidential campaign brought him into a tie with Michael Dukakis, panicking the Democratic establishment and opening a window to a different future for the party. In March 2016, Sanders delivered a stunning upset to Hillary Clinton in the Rust Belt state, momentarily resetting the primary. Eight months later, Donald Trump did the same to Clinton in Michigan, sealing his Electoral College victory. On Tuesday, Michigan dealt a crushing blow to Sanders’s second presidential campaign — despite an endorsement on Sunday from Jackson.

The Michigan Secretary of State’s office said it would not release official results until midday Wednesday due to a large number of absentee ballots, but several networks called the state for Biden not long after polls closed at 8 p.m. With half the votes counted, Biden sat on a comfortable 14-point lead. The win for Biden comes after a swing toward the former vice president — what Nate Silver described as “probably the fastest in the history of the primaries.” Sanders moved from being the clear frontrunner on February 23, the day after the Nevada caucuses, to a stalled candidate on March 1, the day after South Carolina, to trailing on March 4, the day after Super Tuesday. Polls continued to slide away from Sanders over the next week, leading to his eventual loss in Michigan, Mississippi, and Missouri as early returns came in on Tuesday.

The autopsies will begin soon, even as the campaign struggles forward, with Florida, Arizona, Illinois, and Ohio set to vote in a week — where two critical House contests will pit insurgent primary challengers Morgan Harper in Columbus, Ohio and Marie Newman in the suburbs of Chicago, Illinois against Democratic incumbents. Those autopsies will look closely at the decisions made in those days between Nevada and this Tuesday by Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who also competed in the progressive lane until dropping out after Super Tuesday. The main question they’ll have to answer is why the Sanders campaign was unable to turn out the young, working class electorate he needed to beat the more moderate opponent, who dominated him among older white suburban voters as well as older black voters.

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Twitter says Americans are not smart enough to conclude on their own that Biden does’t support Trump. For once, @jack may be on to something. And it’s not that Americans are not smart enough.

Twitter ‘Manipulated’ Tag For Trump’s Biden Video Manipulates US Electorate (RT)

Imagine thinking so little of Americans’ intelligence to label a factual video clip ‘manipulated’ because it’s being used as a meme in the presidential election campaign. Twitter just did that, following in Facebook’s footsteps.
For the first time ever, Twitter applied a ‘manipulated’ tag to a video retweeted by President Donald Trump and shared by his social media director Dan Scavino. Mainstream media critics of the president were really excited at the news, calling the video “deceptively edited.” “We cannot get re-elect [sic]….we cannot win this re-election… excuse me, we can only re-elect Donald Trump,” the video shows Democrat front-runner Joe Biden telling a crowd. According to Twitter and the mainstream media, this is deceptive because the clip leaves out the ending: “…if in fact we get engaged in this circular firing squad here.”

The full video of Biden’s remarks makes it clear that he didn’t really endorse Trump. Of course, no actual person out there would think he did, merely that the 78-year-old establishment Democrat is having trouble stringing a coherent sentence together, even with the help of a teleprompter. Last month, when Twitter announced that it would flag posts containing “synthetic or manipulated” media, the only thing clear about its rules was that their wording was so vague they would effectively be arbitrary. According to those rules, a tweet may be labeled as “deceptive” if the context in which it is shared “could result in confusion or misunderstanding” or “suggests a deliberate intent to deceive people.” Who gets to decide that? Twitter. Or should that be the Ministry of Truth?

Keep in mind that the US has constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech – which through some rather creative legal reasoning does not actually apply to private companies, so Twitter, or Facebook, or YouTube have in effect been able to throttle, demonetize, shadowban or just plain kick off anyone whose politics they disagree with. A Project Veritas undercover video from January 2018 shows a Twitter employee explaining the workings behind “shadowbanning.” A July 2019 story in the Washington Examiner documents the political activism of a senior engineer at the company – which continues to this day. Just last week, there was another social media first, when Facebook removed a series of Trump re-election ads. This happened after complaints by Democrat activists, lawmakers and media that the “official census” wording was “misleading” and confusing.

While that may have been true about the titles of the ads, the actual text made it clear they were requesting voters to voluntarily share their information with the campaign – not harvesting it without asking, like, say, Facebook. Quoting politicians out of context is indeed misleading. It’s also the oldest tactic in the book. The mainstream media have happily done it to Trump over and over – recall the “fine people” remark about Charlottesville, or insinuation he called all Mexicans “rapists,” or all illegal immigrants “animals.” There were no corrections, no apologies, no flagging for misleading or doctored edits for those. [..] The entire argument that fake news or “manipulated” social media posts swayed US elections has always been an insult to Americans’ intelligence, coming from people who clearly believe democracy is too important to be left to the voters.

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Tries to wiggle out of a case on child support payments using another -expected- child as an excuse. But read between the lines and you see he’s going to use his dad as a reason not to comply.

Hunter Biden Aims to Skip Court Appearance, Cites Corona, Pregnant Wife (FB)

Hunter Biden’s lawyers alerted the Arkansas judge presiding over the child support lawsuit against him that he will be unable to attend his scheduled court deposition this week, citing travel restrictions caused by the coronavirus and the approaching due date of his pregnant wife. Biden was ordered last Thursday to appear at the court on Wednesday, March 11, for a deposition in the ongoing child support case, but his lawyers told the court in a Wednesday filing that Biden would be unable to attend. “Defendant requests continuance of the hearing as he is unavailable to attend due to his wife’s due date in 2 and a half weeks or less and risks involved with travel,” the new filing states.

Biden’s lawyers further argue that it is unreasonable for him to be required to travel to Arkansas at all, saying the appearance is “burdensome and oppressive.” “It is unsafe for the Defendant to travel, as travel restrictions have been implemented both domestically and internationally, particularly on airlines, due to the coronavirus,” the filing states. “Setting aside personal endangerment, Defendant reasonably believes that such travel unnecessarily exposes his wife and unborn child to this virus. California, in particular, has been the site of numerous reported cases of exposure.”

The latest filing in the case also points to “intense media scrutiny” on Biden due to his father Joe Biden’s campaign for president. “The tremendously elevated media scrutiny creates some physical risks and logistics difficulties with travel to Arkansas, invades the privacy of the Defendant and his 8 and a half month pregnant wife, threatens to complicate the Court’s ability to conduct a public hearing, creates a highly prejudicial environment from Defendant, and cannot be in the child’s or his mother’s interest in any way,” the lawyers argue. Biden has already been declared the father of the nearly two-year-old Arkansas child, but has repeatedly avoided appearances in court. Lawyers for the child’s mother, Lunden Alexis Roberts, last Friday called for the court to hold Biden in contempt for his continued failure to provide financial documents.

“The defendant has continued to flaunt the orders of this Court by failing to answer discovery, comply with court orders, and provide his financial information,” lawyers for Roberts argued.

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  • #55108

    Gordon Parks A scene at the Fulton Fish Market, New York Jun 1943   • Cancel Everything (Mounk) • An Italian Financial Crisis Is Certain – But Ho
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle March 11 2020]

    #55110

    Another 1,800 cases and 76 deaths added already. Can’t keep up.

    #55111

    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Seeing as how death metal is bound to get a boost in the arm from all this:

    The Bowels of Your Lungs

    #55112

    oxymoron
    Participant

    Fourth turning is making me dizzy. Ok, so I have always had an emergency cash and dry goods supply for me and the family – in case of fire, accident, war whatever. But if everyone is gunna rush the stores now I am going to have to refine the plan….. and get more – this thing could drag on…
    Definitely getting the hot water jacket hooked up to the stove – wood I own, Gas, well the Oligarchs may need to sell it for more than I can afford.
    Soon we will get to the social distancing here in Australia and kids won’t go to school so it’s bulk buying time I am afraid.

    #55113

    sumac.carol
    Participant

    At this point it looks like, the way things play out everywhere, health care systems quickly become completely overwhelmed, and people are left to fend for themselves. What if politicians just said this – we bungled it and our health care, as it has been designed, does not have the capacity to deal with this – can’t redesign the system now, too late for that, you are on your own? No politician would ever be this honest, so we will go thru the charade of pretending to be able to help everyone, full speed ahead towards the brick wall, and turn away when the wheels fall off. In Canada our federal government just announced a whole billion dollars to help with health care costs!!!!!

    #55114

    Dr. D
    Participant

    Italian “minimal growth in living standards in two decades.”

    Thanks, Euro. Extracting wealth from the poor since 2001! Killed waaaaaaaaaay more people than Corona already. The nations cheer! Don’t stop EU, we want MORE EU! World government even!

    “What happened in Wuhan could happen here. Why do we think otherwise?”

    Okay then Doctor: What DID happen in Wuhan? Mere 3,000 deaths in a city of 20 Million as reported? That’s 0.015% death rate. The flu. Would you like to alter your story now?

    Reminds me of 9-11, we want to start a 20 year, $20 trillion dollar worldwide crusade and erase the U.S. Constitution for HALF the ordinary deaths of a single DAY. But O’Brien said so! In our 5 minutes of hate! People said, “this will change everything” and I was like WTF why? Do you have the slightest idea of how big and strong this country is? 3,000 people is a pinprick: go back to work and think about something important before you do something stupid. Ah, but they were all acolytes of Osama, who said:

    “it easy for us to provoke and bait this administration. All that we have to do is to send two mujahidin to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written “al-Qaida”, in order to make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies. …So we are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy.”

    Ah, if only we had known from him saying it publicly for years! And the quote being on national T.V. And all his detractors pointing it out! And screwing up 100% of each step to get here! Who coulda knoooooowd?

    So if 3,000 was a rounding error, two days of one cause of death in one country (heart disease), how much less in China. …Again, unless you want to reject the official numbers, Mister Doctor fellow. Can’t have it both ways.

    “The American immune system is not stronger than the Chinese immune system,”

    That’s not what the ACE2 receptor chart said. So is it is or is it ain’t? Isn’t it enough to say it has a 0.01% rate and therefore 33k may die? Nope! They have to lie and make it MOAR! So if China DOESN’T have this death rate, and it is already dropping off sharply, where do you get the science that WE absolutely, certainly will? A: Out me bung-hole. Can I expect an apology if you’re wrong and crash the world-wide economy instead? Nope, that’s only for people like me. Being an expert means never having to say you’re wrong, even 30 years later. Ask East Anglia. And the OPCW. And the IMF. And…

    Ah the trouble with constant non-stop lies that everyone believes every word although no one’s ever told the truth before. They are so in love with “leaders” and “experts” they haven’t noticed they’ve never been right in our natural lifetimes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority Haven’t we died from SARS, H1N1, Avian, Swine, Mad cow, Creutzfeldt–Jakob’s, and Ebola yet? 12x over at least. I know I died at least twice. Meanwhile male life expectancy drops and 30,000/year die of opioids and the nation applauds. They wear stupid red hats, you see. A public service really.

    Now I don’t trust China’s numbers a bit but they set up three stadiums to deal with the flow and only a month later all three are reportedly closed. So they threw all their people in the ocean or it is over now? And if it’s over in 60 days and they’re still standing what does that say? Maybe that for the 100th out of 100 times in a row the media hype machine is lying? Just like terrorists, they exist somewhere but you won’t die from them?

    That’s what Cuomo is saying, he just called out the U.S. ARMY to shut down a whole 1 MILE area. Yeah, ’cause Americans seldom travel more than one mile. On the Metro North, the nation’s busiest subway. And specifically only the BUILDINGS, not the 79,000 commuting people. And NOT the city of “Wall Street”. Nope, never. Clearly it’s his top concern. For the cameras. And the yummy disaster relief money for his pals. Does he look concerned to you? So does he know things you don’t maybe? Like da Cheeto?

    Pollution Cuts May Mean Coronavirus Saves More Lives Than It Costs (F.)”

    Can’t please some people. First they want everybody dead, then they don’t. If this is true, we should have a Corona per year and save millions. Already should have a baby boom from everybody staying home.

    US President Donald Trump’s efforts to “get NATO more involved in Syria,”

    Huh? He was leaving Syria. That’s why y’all were mad; it was irresponsible, impeachable even. I know that wasn’t completed, but… But that’s Lindsey for you, can’t take the “Con” out of “NeoCon”. Back in the real world, we and Russia need to contain Turkey’s senseless ambitions as still fueled by Saudi and Israel. Personally, I’d leave it to Russia alone, but I can understand tag-teaming, especially with those two jokers ever-plotting. Using my tax money. Just another Wednesday in the Land of the Lost. Think I’ll go lick a banister.

    #55115

    Denmark, Norway have some 5 million inhabitants. Switzerland has 10 million. Holland has 17. Their cases to date are 340, 440, 652 and 503, respectively.

    Germany has 82 million people and 1,622 cases. Ergo, per capita Denmark, Norway should have -to keep level with Germany- 16x more cases, Switzerland 8x, Holland 5x. That would mean 3,440, 7,040, 5,216 and 2,515 cases.

    They’re nowhere near, and Norway is by far the worst. After Italy, Iran and South Korea, it’s the worst in infected per capita (if we forget Bahrain).

    So how many dire reports have you read from or about Norway?

    #55116

    neoh
    Participant

    You crack me up Dr. D. Are you saying Peter Townsend was wrong?
    The sickness seems to be infecting the old ad sick (I’m old but net that type of sick). Normal. An interesting article on why Italy seems to be having more of a problem (hint, old people):
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-deaths-from-coronavirus-are-so-high-in-italy/

    #55117

    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Posted elsewhere in response to the question is this a pandemic exercise testing the response of the U.S. healthcare system and the answer almost sounds like Dr. D:

    “A very similar experiment ran in 2001, first the anthrax letters, a week or so after 911 then Colin Powell’s fraudulent anthrax vial testimony at the UN in 2003 just before the Iraq War inception. 
    Local trustees in and out of the armed forces were engaged and mobilized under the Urban Shield program, you know, police chiefs, mass casualty/disaster planners, small town mayors, paramedics etc. They were all promised “first access, insider” information about impending doom (I meant) attacks. 
    Tom Ridge at DHS initiated the color coded threat levels almost exactly 18 years ago in March 2002. The press played along and ratcheted up emotions. Anthrax was the boogeyman threat used to excite the masses who never really developed an appetite for war that was SUPPOSED to be stoked by 911 alone. 
    And my god, they were in a hurry. In 2002, Mitchell and Jessen started torturing under CIA contract to the tune of $81 million dollars. By 2003, you could no longer find open access (without barriers and strict security) military bases and federal buildings most of which were not heavily fortified, as you can see today, even a year after the “stimulus” of 911.”

    #55118

    zerosum
    Participant

    Its the billionvirus
    “Bank of England cuts rate from 0.75% to 0.25%, Europe sets up $25 billion fund”, no use.

    Boeing To Drawdown Full $13.8 Billion Revolver, Hinting At Bank Lending Freeze
    ——-
    what we have to do is keep people who are at high risk of having bad outcomes, older, underlying health conditions, from being exposed.”

    Stay away from your granny.

    Most of the fatalities to date have occurred among the elderly in Washington State in nursing homes and long-term care facilities. Officials say there have been no serious cases or deaths reported among young Americans.
    —–
    • All-Star Warmonger Lindsey Graham Urges NATO: Get More Involved In Idlib (RT)
    His ranting didn’t work for Ukraine so he’s trying in a war destroyed Idlib.
    Let’s see if the troops in crowded living conditions will come home in body bags.
    Will the USA empty the prison like Iran did.

    #55119

    anticlimactic
    Participant

    BIDEN FOR PRESIDEMENTIA

    I still don’t see how anyone could vote for Biden, but they are! While Sanders may not be out of the race he would need an incredible lead to fight off the super-delegates, and this now seems extremely unlikely.

    The odds are that Biden will be the DNC candidate.

    Also current events are weakening Trump so Biden has a good chance of being elected President! All Biden has to do is to stay alive until the election.

    I suspect that is ALL that Biden has to do. After the election ‘others’ may take over the actual running of the country. I became suspicious that Obama spent so much time on the golf course as it seemed he was saying ‘I am just a figurehead’!

    This makes it critical as to who is nominated as vice-president. The two names I have seen mentioned are Michelle Obama and, of course, Hillary! I read that the Clintons have bought up the DNC debts they may want a good return on their investment! I fear the worst!

    Given the geriatric nature of US politicians and presidential candidates the virus may determine the future of the world!

    #55120

    Corona virus is now a pandemic, says WHO.

    #55121

    John Day
    Participant

    http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/03/personal-pandemic.html
    “Personal” is feeling the threat, getting sick, caring for a critically ill family member who is getting worse, seeing the loss of the life you know, and feeling fear that does not go away.
    Sorry to be negative, but I’m working to channel the mind that will be in my body soon, the mind that guides a body in mortal threat. Denial is weakening in America, and urgency is taking it’s place, Soon will come panic, then despair and capitulation.
    Capitulation of the elites, as they go through the emotional dive-bombing is what could allow the obvious to actually take place. Bernie Sanders gets the Democratic nod, and props up Americans with public health, jobs that support families, and directions to new tasks to support society, rather than suck the life out of it for elites.
    No fever screening test will work for novel coronaviruses, because there are days of shedding virus without any symptoms, before the onset of feeling bad. This means only huge regional quarantines will work, and for months, not weeks, and the viruses will keep spreading until 70% or more of people have had them. S-strain and L-strain novel coronaviruses are different. L-strain spreads faster and is more deadly. Our tests in the US, just released, with long report-waiting times, do not distinguish. It’s sort of academic right now. If I test somebody in clinic this afternoon, I’ll get a report next week. We will see numbers explode across the US this month.
    Colleges are saying not to come back from spring break. Schools will likely do the same. This will extend into summer vacation, if it is to be successful. In Austin, I will know that a shift in consciousness among elite power brokers has happened when they shutter the strip clubs. Austin has full contact strip clubs with lap-dances. Fellas come from all over Texas for that. Owners have “political clout”.
    Drugs are of some help for sicker people, when the drugs are available. Chloroquine, a good old public health malaria drug is back-ordered to infinity in the US. Kaletra, and HIV drug-combination is found to be helpful. Remdesivir rights are now the property of the Peoples Liberation Army of China, and clinical trials continue.
    It’s not for us, brothers and sisters…

    Shedding a lot of coronavirus while you still feel fine:

    People ‘shed’ high levels of coronavirus, study finds, but most are likely not infectious after recovery begins

    The USA, USA, USA is China on January 11, today.
    The coronavirus outbreak in the U.S. could grow to be as serious as it is in Wuhan, China, Johns Hopkins University Dr. Marty Makary told CNBC.
    “What happened in Wuhan could happen here. Why do we think otherwise?” Makary said, referencing the Chinese city where the new virus originated in December.
    “Viruses don’t care about politics and they don’t care about location,” he added.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/10/dr-marty-makary-on-coronavirus-wuhan-could-happen-here.html

    #55122

    Dave Note
    Participant

    It’s clear to me after extensive reading about countries that seem to have leveled out new cases or actually have declining numbers that the only strategy that works is ‘extreme social distancing’

    i.e. quarantine – lockdown

    No exceptions, nobody is ‘special’

    Banning gatherings bigger than 250, 1000 etc is STUPID beyond belief.

    How about gathering at all, like zero. That is what it will take. Anything else is not just halfass, it’s dead ass.

    The UK Health Minister got it, she’s not special.

    The Pathocrats who think they control things are not special either, but they think they are.

    You can get an idea of how much the Chinese lied about their numbers by looking at Italy.

    The mortality rate in Italy is running at 7.5% (that’s 75x the seasonal flu which is .1%)

    The northern Italian medical system, which was quite good at the start, has now effectively collapsed under the load and the cases are still DOUBLING in less than a week.

    So the US has tested a couple hundred times, when it needs to test several hundred thousand times, and now the test kits won’t work without reagent chemicals that are almost exhausted. Sweet

    The US is such a pitiful clusterfuck of a country, this Sars-C0v2 is going to plunge it into a Dark Age.

    #55123

    zerosum
    Participant

    @ John Day

    A calming thought for you to reduce mortality.
    Put the college kids to work.
    Keep your seniors consulting from lock down facilities.

    #55124

    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Another paranoid delusional system from a small collective of sociopaths imposed on an even more massive scale than 19 years ago.
    But once again in my country, there is no money for the people just $132 billion free money in this most recent Overnight Repo operation for the bank frauds because “liquidity crisis” . Sure

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/liuiqidty-crisis-getting-worse-day-fed-injects-record-132-billion-overnight-repo

    #55125

    zerosum
    Participant

    The USA continually bragged that the virus was delayed in the USA by preventing flights from China.
    Now,
    I’m wondering when will China stop flights from a pandemic in the USA?

    #55126

    neoh
    Participant

    Sad but comical. Keystone cops. Governors all standing in front of cameras looking glum. All ordering or suggesting cancellation of college classes.
    Apparently no worries about primary and high schools!
    I like the way Japan handles it. They suck it up and don’t complain. Their culture does not condone expressions of anxiety that would make others uncomfortable. Hoarding would be considered impolite. In the west, anything uncomfortable is an excuse for mayhem and rioting.

    #55127

    Italy adds 2,313 cases and 196 deaths today.

    #55128

    zerosum
    Participant

    Seattle-area officials announced late Tuesday that residents or employees of 10 long-term care facilities have been infected.

    See …. that is what happens when you don’t test.
    Now, what can you do to save granny?

    #55129

    neoh
    Participant

    “See …. that is what happens when you don’t test.
    Now, what can you do to save granny?”
    zero, I understand that testing has been a cluster but do we really want the government to mandate testing of people that are displaying little or no symptoms? And if the kids test positive, do we want them hauled off to quarantine camps?
    There may be disease outbreaks when that may be required but I don’t think this one of them.
    Personally, and it’s just me, and concerning this disease, the less federal government the better.

    #55130

    zerosum
    Participant

    neoh

    do we really want the government to mandate testing of people that are displaying little or no symptoms?
    If it was your granny ….
    Do you have a loved one in a long term care home?

    I’m not going to die alone and homeless in the street.

    However, I”m too poor to get that kind of support. (min. $3,000 per month) offered in a care home.

    If the gov. can take care of bringing home those rich old duds that went on a cruise ship and test them for free then why not test the old duds in a care facility.
    I would think it would give extra time for everyone to update their will.

    #55131

    boilingfrog
    Participant

    America: we never met a problem that could not be solved with a checkbook (whether there’s money in the account or not).

    #55132

    Dr. D
    Participant

    Okay, they played the “Pandemic” card on the economy and stock market. So that game of shutting down the economy, and therefore any physical response, is going forward. I wonder how that affects the pandemic bonds.

    It’s also most of what they don’t talk about, like WHY are 10 different facilities infected? Why only in Washington? Anyone want to guess hyper-low wages=foreign workers? We’ll never know, because if that were true, they’d nuke the planet before admitting it.

    So…30 dead. Wow, one weekend in Chicago, be still my heart. No one cared for the last 30 years. I guess they weren’t real people? Important people?

    Because statistically no one has died, either U.S. or worldwide, (0.00005%) the key danger remains the economy, a thing actually could kill us. No one cares about that either. Keeping the lines open is mean, irresponsible, heartless. It’s a “war footing” but one where there’s no casualties or sacrifice, you know, a T.V. war, where people fade into the scenery, shout a lot at the walls, and all go home at the end. So to be “serious” about this, we definitely, DEFINITELY need to shut down the entire economy, make sure no one goes to work, no products and source materials move, and no food gets on trucks. In #OppositeLand, that’s #Winning! Or what do you want “them” to do?

    A: I want mommy and daddy to do everything so I can sit and cry, complain, whine and criticize. You know, having taken no responsibility, made no plans, have no resources or pantry before now. It’s YOUR FAULT! Whatever “IT” is, it’s your fault. Feed me Seymour. So they say this is coming, they are shouted down as insane. They limit travel, they are lambasted. They post $10 Billion early, and it’s the wrong $10 Billion. They build a wall and scan airports and it’s cruel. They repatriate factories and it’s dumb. Then, having gone home, job well done, wake up the next morning: Whaaaaaaaah! Why is it only $10 Billion??? Why are the airports open??? Why don’t we have any factories??? You’re stupid: you never did anything to help!

    The airport thingy, the billions, the quarantining, the military bases….???” Whaaaaaaaaah! Shut up shut up! Feed me! I’m not responsible! I’m IRRESPONSIBLE!

    Okey dokey. Thanks for doing nothing all these years, lifetimes for most. Calling me and anyone who worked or had a modicum of foresight for the obvious, two extra cans of beans suckers and lunatics. Here we are. What do you want me to do about it? I told you every day this would happen until you ran away and stopped listening, then I said it on the internets until you stopped listening. Now you think –I– can stop locusts, bad weather, and pandemics? The one guy who can do that is the one guy you won’t talk to, can’t even say his name with your mouth. So…here we are, and we’re neighbors. I hope that newer iPhone11 and Cable subscription was worth it, ’cause I’m just plumb out of words.

    Well, you’re in luck because at the moment this ISN’T an emergency and ISN’T bad. Will they have a come-to moment, where their behaviour changes? Nope. Not on your life. The second it lets up, they’ll be mocking it and me all over again. And I’ll still be here, planting trees while you laugh, again, when we get a break in June.

    #55133

    zerosum
    Participant

    If school are closed?
    Who is going to take care of the kids?
    Would childcare be closed?

    Good luck finding childcare.

    #55134

    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    They probably have an answer if it’s the “real” flu, but as stated elsewhere on this blog, you can’t afford it or you’re not part of their club.

    Dr. D can comment on the following since the human cell line immortalized for this research and multibillion dollar medical industry took place before I was born.
    You may not even need a vaccine to prevent it.

    Terms: monoclonal antibodies, monoclonal gammopathy, plasma cells, plasmacytoma, multiple myeloma

    “The producer cell line is a key component of any GMP manufacturing campaign for a gene therapy vector. … The efficiency with which our proprietary cell lines can propagate virus allows us to generate high yields of your product with the highest levels of purity.”

    The immortalized cell line circa 1953 from a dead woman’s cervical cancer. “Scientists have grown an estimated 50 million metric tons of HeLa cells,[4][12] and there are almost 11,000 patents involving these cells.”

    #55138

    A website sells test kits- the fancy ones are $1500 for 150 tests. I didn’t go far enough to find out who can buy them, but 10 bucks a pop is a far cry from the 2000-3000 bucks some have been charged.
    I don’t know how to do links. usbio should call it up.

    #55139

    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.usbio.net/kits/532224/genesig-real-time-pcr-detection-kit-for-coronavirus-strain-2019-ncov-advanced
    2019-nCoV RNA dependant RNA polymerase (RdRp), genesig Advanced Kit 150 tests
    List Price:$1,507

    #55140

    Thanks, zerosum.

    #55141

    lasttwo
    Participant

    interesting video corona virus in china from the heath workers perspective I want to spread it before it gets erased from my wifes facebook page

    #55142

    Dave Note
    Participant

    So the myth about only older people getting SARS-Cov2 is falling apart.

    From an Italian doctor in the eye of the storm, a theory on age and corona:

    In an alarming development, Dr Giuseppe Nattino,an Italian intensive care doctor, from the Lecco province in northern Italy said younger patients were being affected, saying the ages of patients ranged from 46 to 83 with only a small number having important underlying conditions.

    (“with only a small number having important underlying conditions…’ this means most were healthy!)

    He added: “The last days are showing a younger population involved as if the elderly and weaker part of the population crashed early and now younger patients, having exhausted their physiological reserves, come to overcrowded, overwhelmed hospitals with little resources left.”

    #55143

    sinnycool
    Participant

    The ordinary flu sure gets around.

    Here’s a map of today’s flu spread in Australia, its figures derive from self-reporting individuals in the community though a fortnightly email questionnaire but clearly shows the trend aggregated in our major population centres but still spread to the most remote areas

    To my mind it shows

    a) how pervasive virus spreads are even before we start our flu season and in areas of Australia that are tropical or semitropical, even with decades of herd immunity and free vaccinations for large sectors of the population

    b) comparing flu attack and death rates with covid confirm what we see emerging from previously below the radar uncontrolled spreads in countries that considered themselves somehow impervious to the Chinese Peril and as per Ilargi’s Italy is a Time Machine can clearly perceive our potential

    c) given that our Australian political and health systems fall far short of being able to even get close to the Chinese model of containment and resourcing, together with an astounding level of denial and ineptitude and almost insane messaging from our the majority of our leaders designed to sustain our wonderful economies, much of our population is following them right into the cannon’s mouth.

    #55144

    sinnycool
    Participant

    Oh dear, I keep forgetting my .png uploads fail, here goes a .jpg

    Edit: nope, failed again.

    OK, here it is on one of my servers

    OzFlu

    #55145

    boilingfrog
    Participant

    The “freelance” laborers in my circle laugh at the idea of “staying home”
    Laugh and say, “Yeah, so the banks we bail out can take everything I have when I miss a payment?
    I don’t think so…
    They took the land in the dustbowl days and sold it off, that ain’t happening this time…”

    We’ll see… Interesting times. Some of us are “in this together”.

    #55146

    VietnamVet
    Participant

    Joe Rogan’s hour and half interview with Michael Osterholm. A technocrat insider that no one listen to. The highlight is his pointing out that everyone is preparing like this is the first day of a DC blizzard but actually it is the start of a Coronavirus Winter. It is worth the time to watch.

    It isn’t like no one was aware. Simply put, there is no in money in it for Wall Street to stock pile personnel protective equipment, medicine and ventilator equipped ICU beds for a pandemic. They make their money from military protection rackets, financial scams and offshoring jobs.

    #55147

    WES
    Participant

    Here in Ontario, health officials are still in lala land.

    There is no community spread! People feeling ill should just self quarantine!

    Nursing homes being infected.

    Every suburb of Toronto now has multiple cases!

    Read a study on SARS self quarantine results. The study showed only 57% actually quarantined! The other 43% didn’t bother to quarantine themselves as it was too much effort and it interfered too much with their lives!

    To back up the cheating results, one of the US’s top SARS scientists, who caught SARS, was seen in public, with recorded photos of her as proof!

    So quarantining only works for just over half the population! So those Canadian health officials droning on how everybody is self quarantining themselves are just full of it!

    On a side note:. Some of you know I suffer from RP in my eyes!

    When I was first diagnosed with RP and was legally blind, my doctor said by law he was legally required by law to report me to the government and they would take away my driver’s license. However he said he wasn’t going to report me, leaving everything up to me to decide. Naturally I let my wife drive me home!

    About 5 years later, I read an interesting article from the Canadian or American medical association, about what happens when doctors do or don’t report patients.

    First of all doctors did not like being forced by the government to play the roll of God for their patients. Very Understandable!

    So here is what this study found!

    When doctors did report their patients, 75% after loosing their driver’s license, continued to drive!

    However, when doctors did not report their patients to the government, 75% quit driving on their own!

    So my doctor was very smart! He already knew this!

    I know John Day, Dr. D, Dr. Rich, will probably say that sounds about right! Basic Humans 101!

    My take on this is when people are given the power to decide what is in their best long term interest, the majority will make the responsible decision.

    However if another person or the government makes the decision for a person, that person will resent it and probably continue doing whatever they have been told they can no longer do!

    #55148

    WES
    Participant

    VietnamVet: Congress’s recent virus bill of $8.2 billion, if I remember correctly includes $3.2 billion for international efforts!

    What this really means is Congress is more concerned about lining up their next big kickbacks!

    Just like foreign aid to the Ukraine!

    #55149

    WES
    Participant

    Boilingfrog:. Yes poor people cannot afford to be sick! And if they are not dead, will continue to work because they have no choice!

    In an earlier post only 57% actually self quarantine! The other43% don’t!

    #55150

    WES
    Participant

    Sunnycool:. Maybe I could send you some Canadian polar bears!

    They might work better than canons!

    If you don’t feed them, they will eat people!

    #55151

    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Joe Rogan’s hour and half interview with Michael Osterholm. A technocrat insider that no one listen to. The highlight is his pointing out that everyone is preparing like this is the first day of a DC blizzard but actually it is the start of a Coronavirus Winter. It is worth the time to watch.

    Yeah, I’ve said exactly the same thing, but with different words.
    Good catch V V; very informative…thanks…

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