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Why Are ‘Experts’ Disagreeing With Each Other Over Covid Vaccine? (Ron Paul)
CDC Real-World Study Confirms Protective Benefits of mRNA Vaccines (CDC)
Faith in Quick Test Leads to Epidemic That Wasn’t (NYT)
Quadruple Therapy With Ivermectin Is Effective In Treating COVID-19 (Hindu)
Texas COVID-Positivity-Rate Drops To Record Low After Mask-Mandate Lifted (ZH)
Fewer Than 1 In 5 Britons With Symptoms Gets Tested, Only 2 In 5 Isolate (RT)
Almost Third Of UK Covid Hospital Patients Readmitted Within 4 Months (G.)
GOP Rep. Greene Introduces Bill To Cut Fauci’s $400,000 Salary To Zero (JTN)
Kremlin Responds To Anger Over Ukraine Border Build-Up (ZH)
We‘ll Talk To NATO ‘But Not Just About Ukraine’ – Lavrov (RT)
Analyst Pleads To Leaking Secrets About Drone Program (AP)
The Empire State Building Falls into the Suez Canal (Stoller)
Massive DNA Damage Caused By CRISPR/Cas9 Gene Editing (GMW)
New Digital Archive Preserves and Protects Indigenous Folk Medicine (Smiths.)










“Deaths in Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), since its start in 1990. 2021 is off the charts.”



Ron Paul is a Doctor of Medicine. Will he be censored too?

Why Are ‘Experts’ Disagreeing With Each Other Over Covid Vaccine? (Ron Paul)

Even the establishment experts seem to be in total disagreement with each other – and often with themselves – over the experimental Covid “vaccine.” Does it prevent the illness? Lessen the illness? Provide lasting immunity? Temporary immunity? Is it safe for all? So many questions, but so few reliable answers.

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Pfizer’s sales team.

CDC Real-World Study Confirms Protective Benefits of mRNA Vaccines (CDC)

A new CDC study provides strong evidence that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are highly effective in preventing SARS-CoV-2 infections in real-world conditions among health care personnel, first responders, and other essential workers. These groups are more likely than the general population to be exposed to the virus because of their occupations. The study looked at the effectiveness of Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna mRNA vaccines in preventing SARS-CoV-2 infections among 3,950 study participants in six states over a 13-week period from December 14, 2020 to March 13, 2021. Results showed that following the second dose of vaccine (the recommended number of doses), risk of infection was reduced by 90 percent two or more weeks after vaccination.

Following a single dose of either vaccine, the participants’ risk of infection with SARS-CoV-2 was reduced by 80 percent two or more weeks after vaccination. It takes about two weeks following each dose of vaccine for the body to produce antibodies that protect against infection. As a result, people are considered “partially vaccinated” two weeks after their first dose of mRNA vaccine and “fully vaccinated” two weeks after their second dose. These new vaccine effectiveness findings are consistent with those from Phase 3 clinical trials conducted with the vaccines before they received Emergency Use Authorizations from the Food and Drug Administration. Those clinical trials evaluated vaccine efficacy against COVID-19 disease, while this study evaluated vaccine effectiveness against infection, including infections that did not result in symptoms.

“This study shows that our national vaccination efforts are working. The authorized mRNA COVID-19 vaccines provided early, substantial real-world protection against infection for our nation’s health care personnel, first responders, and other frontline essential workers,” said CDC Director Rochelle P. Walensky, MD, MPH. “These findings should offer hope to the millions of Americans receiving COVID-19 vaccines each day and to those who will have the opportunity to roll up their sleeves and get vaccinated in the weeks ahead. The authorized vaccines are the key tool that will help bring an end to this devastating pandemic.”

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PCR history.

From New York Times Jan. 22, 2007

Faith in Quick Test Leads to Epidemic That Wasn’t (NYT)

Dr. Brooke Herndon, an internist at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center, could not stop coughing. For two weeks starting in mid-April last year, she coughed, seemingly nonstop, followed by another week when she coughed sporadically, annoying, she said, everyone who worked with her.Before long, Dr. Kathryn Kirkland, an infectious disease specialist at Dartmouth, had a chilling thought: Could she be seeing the start of a whooping cough epidemic? By late April, other health care workers at the hospital were coughing, and severe, intractable coughing is a whooping cough hallmark. And if it was whooping cough, the epidemic had to be contained immediately because the disease could be deadly to babies in the hospital and could lead to pneumonia in the frail and vulnerable adult patients there. It was the start of a bizarre episode at the medical center: the story of the epidemic that wasn’t.

[..] For months, nearly everyone involved thought the medical center had had a huge whooping cough outbreak, with extensive ramifications. Nearly 1,000 health care workers at the hospital in Lebanon, N.H., were given a preliminary test and furloughed from work until their results were in; 142 people, including Dr. Herndon, were told they appeared to have the disease; and thousands were given antibiotics and a vaccine for protection. Hospital beds were taken out of commission, including some in intensive care. Then, about eight months later, health care workers were dumbfounded to receive an e-mail message from the hospital administration informing them that the whole thing was a false alarm. Not a single case of whooping cough was confirmed with the definitive test, growing the bacterium, Bordetella pertussis, in the laboratory. Instead, it appears the health care workers probably were afflicted with ordinary respiratory diseases like the common cold.

[..] “You’re in a little bit of no man’s land,” with the new molecular tests, said Dr. Mark Perkins, an infectious disease specialist and chief scientific officer at the Foundation for Innovative New Diagnostics, a nonprofit foundation supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. “All bets are off on exact performance.” Of course, that leads to the question of why rely on them at all. “At face value, obviously they shouldn’t be doing it,” Dr. Perl said. But, she said, often when answers are needed and an organism like the pertussis bacterium is finicky and hard to grow in a laboratory, “you don’t have great options.” Waiting to see if the bacteria grow can take weeks, but the quick molecular test can be wrong. “It’s almost like you’re trying to pick the least of two evils,” Dr. Perl said.

At Dartmouth the decision was to use a test, P.C.R., for polymerase chain reaction. It is a molecular test that, until recently, was confined to molecular biology laboratories. “That’s kind of what’s happening,” said Dr. Kathryn Edwards, an infectious disease specialist and professor of pediatrics at Vanderbilt University. “That’s the reality out there. We are trying to figure out how to use methods that have been the purview of bench scientists. The Dartmouth whooping cough story shows what can ensue.

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From September 2020.

Quadruple Therapy With Ivermectin Is Effective In Treating COVID-19 (Hindu)

Elaborating on the effective methods being followed for treating COVID-19 across the globe, Shashikanth Manikappa, a specialist cardiac anaesthetist working at Monash Health in Melbourne, Australia, has strongly advised what he termed Quadruple Therapy involving four medicines — Ivermectin, Doxycycline, Zinc and Vitamin D3 — as a preventive as well as treating method. Addressing a media conference in Kalaburagi on Monday, the senior doctor said that the use of Ivermectin would be more effective than that of Hydroxychloroquine which was widely being used worldwide, right from the outbreak of the pandemic.

Referring to a pre-official release of a randomised controlled trial using Ivermectin in three doses in primary contacts of COVID-19, Dr. Manikappa said that 93 % of primary contacts who received Ivermectin did not develop any symptoms and 58 % of primary contacts who did not receive Ivermectin did progress to have symptoms of the pandemic. “Quadruple Therapy includes Ivermectin 12 mg one dose, Doxycycline 100 mg once a day for four days, Zinc 50 mg once a day for four days and Vitamin D3 once a week. Ivermectin, Doxycycline and Zinc are to be repeated every 14 days and Vitamin D3 every week with blood levels monitored. The synergistic effect of these medicine acts to prevent viral multiplication and also stop the virus from entering human cells.

Thomas Borody, an Australian gastroenterologist who is known for curing peptic ulcers with triple antibiotic therapy, has revealed that one block in South America that received Ivermectin combination prophylaxis did not contract coronavirus infection while others did,” he said. On the side effects, Dr. Manikappa said that Ivermectin was being used in 3.7 billion people for intestinal parasites and was found to be safe. “These are not new medicine. They are already in use for treating different ailments and are found to be safe. They can be prescribed by any doctor to control the pandemic,” he said.

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“The 4.95 percent test positivity rate is the lowest the state has seen since the start of the pandemic.”

Texas COVID-Positivity-Rate Drops To Record Low After Mask-Mandate Lifted (ZH)

For the better part of the past year, the US public was bombarded with “science” how only the wearing of a mask (or two masks, or three masks or more) was the only thing that stood between the Western way of life and Armageddon (despite the periodic emergence of cold, hard data showing no improvement in covid transmission in states that mandated masks vs those that did not, at least until Twitter decided to ban it). Then, one month ago, Texas had had enough and its governor shocked the Faucis of the world – and the White House – when he declared that the mask mandate in the state was officially over. What happened then? Well, in a development that would likely shock Dr. Fauci, newly confirmed Coronavirus cases in Texas plunged to their lowest since June, roughly three weeks after the state lifted its mask mandate and reopened businesses.

Additionally, the 7-day Covid positivity rate dropped to a new recorded low: 4.95%…

Texas Governor Greg Abbott wrote in a tweet over the weekend. “Everyone now qualifies for a shot. They are highly recommended to prevent getting Covid but always voluntary.” The 4.95 percent test positivity rate is the lowest the state has seen since the start of the pandemic. According to the Texas Department of State Health Services, some 1,900 new virus cases were reported on Sunday, which is the lowest daily number the state has seen since early June. Data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention showed that the seven-day moving average number of cases in Texas dropped to the lowest level since mid-June. According to the CDC, Texas was averaging 3,783 daily cases as of March 27.

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National Health Service’s Test and Trace program costs £37 billion over two years.

Fewer Than 1 In 5 Britons With Symptoms Gets Tested, Only 2 In 5 Isolate (RT)

Only half of Britons know the main symptoms of Covid-19, and most don’t get tested or self-isolate, a new study has shown, raising questions about the UK’s Test and Trace system and placing emergence from the pandemic at risk The large study, exploring the effectiveness of the National Health Service’s Test and Trace program, was published in the British Medical Journal on Wednesday. Designed to identify, find and test those who have coronavirus, it has been allocated a massive budget of £37 billion over two years. Researchers at King’s College London, University College London and Public Health England looked at aggregated data from some 37 national online surveys, encompassing more than 75,000 responses from nearly 54,000 people living in the UK.

Only some 51.5% of those surveyed managed to properly identify the symptoms of Covid-19 – which include a cough, high temperature, fever, and loss of sense of smell or taste – that have been “actively promoted to members of the UK public,” the study reads. Moreover, the willingness to get tested should any of those symptoms be experienced turned out to be extremely low, with only 18% of those who reported suffering such symptoms having requested a test to confirm whether they had coronavirus. Such low figures call into question the effectiveness of the whole Test and Trace system, the researchers said, while acknowledging a slight improvement in people’s willingness to follow the rules over time.

With such low rates for symptom recognition, testing, and full self-isolation, the effectiveness of the current form of the UK’s test, trace, and isolate system is limited. Only 43% of respondents said they had adhered to self-isolation. The need to go to work or to leave the house to shop or attend to medical needs other than Covid-19 were among the most common excuses given for breaking the rules. Young people, those on a low income and/or from a working-class background were identified as the ones most likely to break the rules. The researchers suggested targeted messaging and increased financial support as methods by which to improve adherence.

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“..far from a benign illness..”

Almost Third Of UK Covid Hospital Patients Readmitted Within 4 Months (G.)

Nearly a third of people who have been in hospital suffering from Covid-19 are readmitted for further treatment within four months of being discharged, and one in eight of patients dies in the same period, doctors have found. The striking long-term impact of the disease has prompted doctors to call for ongoing tests and monitoring of former coronavirus patients to detect early signs of organ damage and other complications caused by the virus. While Covid is widely known to cause serious respiratory problems, the virus can also infect and damage other organs such as the heart, liver and kidneys. Researchers at University College London, the Office for National Statistics, and the University of Leicester, compared medical records of nearly 48,000 people who had had hospital treatment for Covid and had been discharged by 31 August 2020, with records from a matched control group of people in the general population.

The records were used to track rates of readmission, of deaths, and of diagnoses for a range of respiratory, heart, kidney, liver and metabolic diseases, such as diabetes. After an average follow-up time of 140 days, nearly a third of the Covid patients who had been discharged from hospital had been readmitted and about one in eight had died, rates considerably higher than seen in the control group. “This is a concern and we need to take it seriously,” said Dr Amitava Banerjee, at the Institute of Health Informatics at University College London. “We show conclusively here that this is very far from a benign illness. We need to monitor post-Covid patients so we can pick up organ impairment early on.”

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Ha ha ha!

GOP Rep. Greene Introduces Bill To Cut Fauci’s $400,000 Salary To Zero (JTN)

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene on Thursday said she is introducing a bill to strip Dr. Anthony Fauci of his government salary. In a press release Greene posted on Twitter, the controversial Georgia Republican said her “Fire Fauci Act” would decrease “Dr. Always Wrong’s pay to $0 and the ‘We Will Not Comply Act’ will ‘prevent discrimination against the unvaccinated.’ ” Greene said the Fire Fauci Act will: • Remind the American public that Dr. Fauci is the highest paid ($434,312) of all 4 million federal employees, including the president. • Cite numerous findings about Dr. Fauci’s evolving and contradictory advice on COVID-19. • Reduce Dr. Fauci’s salary to $0 until a new NIAID administrator is confirmed by the Senate. • Direct the Government Accounting Office to conduct a study about the correspondence, financials, and policy memos inside the NIAID before COVID through the end of this year. This will allow us to see what Fauci and the NIAID knew, when they knew it, what they spent money on, and how the agency responded to the virus.

The bill has little if any chance of passage in the Democrat-controlled House. Fauci has made several seemingly contradictory statements during the pandemic about the virus and related health-safety measures – including one on mask wearing. The annual salary for Fauci, director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Disease, makes him “the highest paid doctor in the federal government and the highest paid out of all 4 million federal employees,” Forbes reported. In fact, Fauci’s salary is more than the president of the United States’ annual $400,000 pay.

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Who do YOU think is the agressor here?

Kremlin Responds To Anger Over Ukraine Border Build-Up (ZH)

Various reports strongly suggest that over the past week there’s been a significant uptick in shelling and fighting in the war-torn Donetsk region of eastern Ukraine. This has served to thrust the over 5-year long crisis back in the media spotlight in the past days, particularly after the US Army ( via US European Command, or EUCOM) raised its Europe threat level to its highest of “potential imminent crisis”. At the same time The New York Times and others are detailing the escalation while alleging ‘Russian aggression’ is fueling the fresh flare-up, which has signaled the collapse of yet another cease-fire. And more alarmingly the reports allege a major build-up of Russian troops and tanks along Ukraine’s eastern border. But even as the NY Times report mused, it’s also likely that the estimated 4,000 regular Russian soldiers there were simply left over from recent scheduled military exercises common during this time of year.

The Kremlin has responded to the slew of reports on Thursday, underscoring that given the troops remain entirely within Russia’s national boundaries, it’s essentially ‘nobody’s business’ where they go. “The Russian Federation transfers the Armed Forces on its soil as it wants to. This should not concern anyone and this is not posing any threat to anyone,” spokesman Dmitry Peskov emphasized. Moscow is taking “all the necessary measures to ensure security of its frontiers,” he stressed according to TASS. Peskov added that: “As for the participation of Russian troops in the armed conflict on Ukraine’s soil, the Russian troops have never taken part in it and are not participating now.” He further said: “And we, the European countries and all world states would not like the civil war in Ukraine as a result of provocations and provocative steps by Ukraine’s military to flare up again.”

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“we do not refuse to work, we just don’t want to sit there and hear about Ukraine.”

We‘ll Talk To NATO ‘But Not Just About Ukraine’ – Lavrov (RT)

Moscow has rejected claims that it is unwilling to participate in talks with NATO, arguing instead that it would be eager to hold a summit, but only if it sticks to topics that are actually within the US-led military bloc’s remit. Last week, the faction’s General Secretary, Jens Stoltenberg, claimed that a breakdown in communication was the fault of one side alone. “Since the summer of 2019, there have been no meetings of the NATO-Russia Council,” he said. “And that’s because Russia has not responded positively to our invitation to convene the Council.” “I regret that, because I think that dialogue is important, especially when times are difficult as they are now, then it is important that we sit down, discuss also difficult issues,” Stoltenberg added.

“I believe in dialogue with Russia partly to strive for a better relationship with [that country].” However, on Wednesday, Moscow hit back at the remarks, with Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov arguing that his country was not opposed to talks with the bloc. “Our colleague Mr Stoltenberg declares that Russia refuses to work in the Russia-NATO Council,” Lavrov said, insisting that “we do not refuse to work, we just don’t want to sit there and hear about Ukraine.” “NATO has nothing to do with Ukraine,” the Minister said, “and yet when they offer to convene the Russia-NATO Council, they always insist that the first question should be about Ukraine. We sat down a couple of times, listened, we all know this.

Therefore, we have proposed to restore contacts between our militaries in order to save complex agreements that we have previously signed.” In February, Stoltenberg said that the ball was in Moscow’s court when it comes to relations with the bloc. “We need to send a clear signal to Russia,” he said. “If they want clashes, we are ready. If they want to co-operate, we will be glad.”

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“Damn, @theintercept got yet another whistleblower pinched. It’s almost like Omidyar is running a sting operation there.”

Analyst Pleads To Leaking Secrets About Drone Program (AP)

A former Air Force intelligence analyst pleaded guilty Wednesday to leaking classified documents to a reporter about military drone strikes against al-Qaida and other terrorist targets. The guilty plea from Daniel Hale, 33, of Nashville, Tennessee, comes just days before he was slated to go on trial in federal court in Alexandria, Virginia, for violating the World War I-era Espionage Act. Hale admitted leaking roughly a dozen secret and top-secret documents to a reporter in 2014 and 2015, when he was working for a contractor as an analyst at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA). While court papers never specified the recipient of the leak, details about the case make it clear that the documents were given to Jeremy Scahill, a reporter at The Intercept, who used the documents as part of a series of critical reports on how the military conducted drone strikes on foreign targets.

He faces up to 10 years in prison at sentencing scheduled for July 13. The original indictment against Hale states that he reached out to the reporter in April 2013 while still enlisted in the Air Force and assigned to the National Security Agency. The leaks continued after Hale became a private contractor and was assigned to NGA. Hale’s lawyers sought unsuccessfully last year to have the case tossed on First Amendment grounds. They also argued that the case was a selective and vindictive prosecution. Defense lawyers said that while Hale was being punished for leaking information about negative aspects of the drone program, the government seemed unconcerned about anonymous leaks by government officials about successful strikes.

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“And frankly, we should have seen this coming, because a lot of people have been noticing supply chain fragility, even if Thomas Friedman didn’t.”

The Empire State Building Falls into the Suez Canal (Stoller)

Over the last few decades, ships have gotten really really big, four times the size of what they were 25 years ago, what the FT calls “too big to sail.’ The argument behind making such massive boats was efficiency, since you can carry more at a lower cost. The downside of such mega-ships should have been obvious. Ships like this, which are in effect floating islands, are really hard to steer in tight spaces like ports and canals, and if they get stuck, they are difficult to unstick. In other words, the super smart wizard financiers who run global trade made ships that don’t fit in the canals they need to fit into. The rise of mega-ships is paralleled by the consolidation of the shipping industry itself. In 2000, the ten biggest shipping companies had a 12% market share, by 2019 that share had increased to 82%.

This understates the consolidation, because there are alliances among these shippers. The stuck ship is being run by the Taiwanese shipping conglomerate Evergreen, which bought Italian shipping firm Italia Marittima in 1998 and London-based Hatsu in 2002, and is itself part of the OCEAN alliance, which has more than a third of global shipping. Making ships massive, and combining such massive ships into massive shipping monopolies, is a bad way to run global commerce. We’ve already seen significant problems from big shipping lines helping to transmit financial shocks into trade shocks, such as when Korean shipper Hanjin went under and stranded $14 billion of cargo on the ocean while in bankruptcy. It’s also much harder for small producers and retailers to get shipping space, because large shippers want to deal with large clients.

And fewer ports can handle these mega-ships, so such ships induce geographical inequality. Increasingly, we’re not moving ships between cities, we’re moving cities to where the small number of giant shipping lines find it efficient to ship. Dumb big ships owned by monopolies are the result of dumb big ideas, the physical manifestation of what Thomas Friedman was pushing in the 1990s and 2000s with books such as The Lexus and the Olive Tree and The World is Flat, the idea that “taking fat out of the system at every joint” was leading towards a more prosperous, peaceful and competitive world. Friedman’s was a finance-friendly perspective, a belief that making us all interdependent with a very thin margin of error would force global cooperation.

Just make ships bigger, went the thinking, until a big boat got stuck in a canal, taking down global supply chains with it. It seems so dumb. And it is. But it’s also reality, because for whatever reason, a lot of powerful people at one point thought Thomas Friedman was a genius. And frankly, we should have seen this coming, because a lot of people have been noticing supply chain fragility, even if Thomas Friedman didn’t.

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Bigger than God.

Massive DNA Damage Caused By CRISPR/Cas9 Gene Editing (GMW)

New research from Chinese scientists shows that CRISPR/Cas9 gene editing causes massive damage to the genome, much of which would have been missed by the analytical tools used so far. In a previous study, the same authors described a novel DNA sequencing procedure, which they called a “primer-extension-mediated sequencing assay” or PEM-seq. By applying this procedure, they found that DNA double-strand breaks (DSBs) brought about by the CRISPR/Cas9 gene-editing tool could lead to unintended chromosomal translocations and large deletions. In their latest follow-up report, the researchers describe a new computer program, which enabled them to analyse the PEM-seq data to greater depth than previous programs had allowed.

They used this program to analyse real sequence data from their own new experiments, as well as previous ones, following CRISPR/Cas9 gene editing in mouse and human cells. In gene editing, while the initial double-strand break made by the DNA “scissors” or gene-editing tool can be targeted to a given location, the subsequent DNA repair that makes the “edit” is performed by the cell’s own repair mechanisms and is not controllable or precise. The researchers analysed the outcomes of the gene edit – and found what they call “tremendous deleterious DSB repair byproducts of CRISPR/Cas9 editing”. The unintended outcomes or genetic errors ranged from unintended small insertions or deletions (indels) to large deletions, plasmid (gene-editing tool delivery vehicle) integrations, and chromosomal translocations.

The researchers wrote, “Our findings provide an extra dimension for genome editing safety besides off-targets” – the well documented unintentional DNA damage at locations of the genome that were not targeted for editing. They added, “Caution should be exercised to avoid not only off-target damages but also deleterious DSB repair byproducts during genome editing.” Worryingly, these unintended deleterious outcomes of gene editing were not overcome even when a high-fidelity CRISPR/Cas tool was used. Furthermore, when components of the DNA repair machinery were inhibited in an attempt to force a specific gene sequence modification outcome (known as SDN-2), this resulted in large deletions, large insertions, and DNA cuts around the start site of genes.

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Smithsonian. The Archive of Healing lists traditional remedies, procedures and practices from all seven continents.

New Digital Archive Preserves and Protects Indigenous Folk Medicine (Smiths.)

For thousands of years, people around the world have relied on medicinal folklore, herbal treatments and rituals to heal an array of ailments. Now, researchers from the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) have created an online platform featuring hundreds of thousands of these traditional therapies. Spanning seven continents and 200 years, the Archive of Healing draws on such sources as anthropologists’ field notes, scholarly journals, oral histories and folktales. “The whole goal here is to democratize what we think of as healing and knowledge about healing, and take it across cultures in a way that’s respectful and gives attention to intellectual property rights,” says David Shorter, director of the digital archive, in a statement.

As Valentina Di Liscia reports for Hyperallergic, the database is one of the most inclusive catalogues of medicinal folklore in the world. A key goal of the project is preserving Indigenous treatments while ensuring that this knowledge is protected against exploitation by pharmaceutical companies seeking to make a profit. To that end, certain identifying details for plants and recipes are omitted from the archive. Western medicine has, historically, overlooked herbal remedies used by women and Indigenous peoples. As folk herbalist Sade Musa explained for Healthline in 2019, many traditional treatments were passed down orally and, as a result, overlooked in favor of written documentation.

“[C]olonialism built a medical industrial complex through often violent means of cultural suppression, erasure, and exploitation,” noted Heathline. “The rise of the patriarchy also authorized only white male physicians to practice and define medicine for the world.” Former faculty member Wayland Hand launched the UCLA database more than 40 years ago. In 1996, folklorist Michael Owen Jones began digitizing the collection of more than one million notecards—then known as the Archive of Traditional Medicine—after receiving a grant. Speaking with Jeyling Chou of the Daily Bruin, UCLA’s independent student newspaper, in 2005, Jones said, “Folk medicine [includes] the beliefs and practices that we learn and teach in our first-hand interactions with one another in our everyday lives.” He added, “It’s not institutional medicine, it’s not medicine that requires a license.”

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    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 2 2021]


    Sunlight Renders Coronavirus Inactive 8 Times Faster Than Predicted

    Researchers have found that the coronavirus is inactivated by sunlight as much as eight times faster in experiments than predicted by current theoretical modelling, providing a glimmer of hope in turning the tide on the pandemic. UC Santa Barbara assistant professor of mechanical engineering Paolo Luzzatto-Fegiz conducted an analysis of 2020 studies exploring the effects of different forms of UV radiation on the SARS-CoV-2 and found a significant discrepancy.

    As with all electromagnetic radiation, UV falls on a spectrum, with longer-wave UVA reacting differently with parts of DNA and RNA than other mid-range UVB waves contained in sunlight, which kill microbes and cause sunburn in humans. Short-wave UVC radiation has previously been shown to deactivate viruses such as SARS-CoV-2, which is responsible for Covid-19, but this section of the UV spectrum is deflected away by the Earth’s ozone layer.

    A July 2020 experimental study tested the power of UV light on SARS-CoV-2, contained in simulated saliva, and found the virus was inactivated in under 20 minutes. However, a theory published a month later suggested sunlight could achieve the same effect, which didn’t quite add up. This second study concluded that SARS-CoV-2 was three times more sensitive to UV radiation in sunlight than the influenza A virus. The vast majority of coronavirus particles were rendered inactive within 30 minutes of exposure to midday summer sunlight, whereas the virus could survive for days under winter sunlight.


    They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 by Milton Mayer, an excerpt, 2017 edition

    “To live in this process is absolutely not to be able to notice it—please try to believe me—unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us had ever had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, ‘regretted,’ that, unless one were detached from the whole process from the beginning, unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these ‘little measures’ that no ‘patriotic German’ could resent must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. One day it is over his head.


    This is incredible:


    Must watch:

    Catching up with Knut Wittkowski, PhD

    Mister Roboto

    From the Matt Stoller article:

    The answer to addressing the problem of thinned out supply chains is to recognize that hyper-efficient globalization inherently carries the downside of unpredictable shortages, geopolitical tension, and supply disruptions. And then redesign our global trading order to make it less efficient and more resilient.

    Probably most people who are regulars here know this, but a lot of people don’t realize that efficiency and resiliency are always a trade-off. Efficiency tends to be popular in eras such as ours where available-energy is declining and so owners and upper-management are looking for easy ways to increase short-term profitability. But eras of declining energy-availability also make the shocks a system must periodically endure even more intense, and this effect will be magnified by taking away from resiliency by enhancing efficiency over every other priority. That’s exactly why we found ourselves not always able to buy our preferred brand (indeed, if any brand at all) of toilet paper, facial tissues, and paper towels during the “panic” phase of the onset of the pandemic.

    Dr. D

    Just following what will be Europe’s shortest war ever, Russia defending Crimea and taking Ukraine back, if it even wants it. (probably not)

    “At this hour, more Russian military forces are massed near Ukraine’s borders than we have ever seen before.

    Western military leaders say that they are concerned that the troop movements that we have witnessed in recent days may be leading up to an invasion, and if an invasion does happen it will greatly test the resolve of the Biden administration, EU leaders and NATO brass. In particular, the hawks in the Biden administration would almost certainly not be willing to just sit back and let the Russians conquer all of Ukraine. There would likely be a major response by the United States, and that could set off a chain reaction that could ultimately spark World War 3.

    So what made the Russians suddenly move a massive invasion force toward Ukraine?

    Well, it turns out that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky essentially signed a declaration of war against Russia on March 24th. The document that he signed is known as Decree No. 117/2021, and you won’t read anything about it in the corporate media.”

    As Russian Tanks Move Toward Ukraine, The Globe Braces For The Possibility That World War 3 Could Soon Erupt

    But they just won’t be happy until there’s a nuclear war, and Joe is just the weakling who will sleepwalk us into it. Hey, how are your supply chains doing?


    @Germ: thank you.



    “Implementing a comprehensive campaign to defeat coronavirus would also assure that the next pandemic isn’t a disaster even worse than the current one.”

    I want to present a different point of view.

    For a large segment of society, the pandemic is a gold mine. Just when covid 19 was being conquered, along comes, just in time, covid variants from UK, Africa, etc. that are easier to transmit, more deadly and attacking a younger portion of people.

    This virus is better than the bunny that keeps going and going.

    Its better to be in the wagon than pushing the wagon
    Laughing all the way to the bank.

    ‘Quadruple Therapy with Ivermectin is effective in treating COVID-19’

    Shashikanth Manikappa, a specialist cardiac anaesthetist working at Monash Health in Melbourne, Australia, has strongly advised what he termed Quadruple Therapy involving four medicines — Ivermectin, Doxycycline, Zinc and Vitamin D3 — as a preventive as well as treating method.
    “Quadruple Therapy includes Ivermectin 12 mg one dose, Doxycycline 100 mg once a day for four days, Zinc 50 mg once a day for four days and Vitamin D3 once a week. Ivermectin, Doxycycline and Zinc are to be repeated every 14 days and Vitamin D3 every week with blood levels monitored. The synergistic effect of these medicine acts to prevent viral multiplication and also stop the virus from entering human cells.

    On the side effects, Dr. Manikappa said that Ivermectin was being used in 3.7 billion people for intestinal parasites and was found to be safe. “These are not new medicine. They are already in use for treating different ailments and are found to be safe. They can be prescribed by any doctor to control the pandemic,” he said.

    The war/battle to use or not to use Quadruple Therapy includes Ivermectin continues beyond logic.
    (Its more than elections that are won by the biggest pot of money)
    Look here ….
    White paper on Ivermectin as a potential therapy for COVID-19
    A group of senior doctors with vast clinical experience met on 19th July’20 under the aegis of Academy of Advanced Medical Education. The panel looked at Ivermectin, one of the old molecule and evaluated it’s use in COVID 19 (Novel Coronavirus Disease 2019) management. After critical panel discussion, all the attending doctors came to a conclusion that Ivermectin can be a potential molecule for prophylaxis and treatment of people infected with Coronavirus, owing to its anti-viral properties coupled with effective cost, availability and good tolerability and safety.

    There are newer drugs on the horizon which have been recommended though with very limited experience & devoid of enough data about safety and efficacy.1 These newer options are neither easily available nor affordable.

    We have revisited some of the old molecules & have found Ivermectin, originally introduced as an anthelmintic to be an effective, safe and affordable therapeutic option in Indian settings for prevention and treatment of COVID-19.2

    Recent research has shown that Ivermectin possesses strong anti-viral properties.3 It has potential to convert RT-PCR negative quickly.4 It can be used across the severity of COVID-19 especially in early viremic phase.5 It can be combined with other molecules of interest, like Hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin, doxycycline.6 Ivermectin is affordable, easily available, and safe without any major side effects.5

    This white paper is an attempt to propose Ivermectin, a strong antiviral drug as a therapeutic option in the prevention and treatment of mild, moderate and severe cases of COVID-19.

    The group, at the end of the discussion, proposed the following consensus statement:

    “Ivermectin in the dose of 12 mg BD alone or in combination with other therapy for 5 to 7 days may be considered as safe therapeutic option for mild moderate or severe cases of Covid-19 infection. It is cost effective especially when the other drugs are very costly & not easily available”.


    “At this hour, more Russian military forces are massed near Ukraine’s borders than we have ever seen before.

    We never read about the troops amassed at the other side of that border, and which the Russian troops seek to neutralize.

    Russia has neither the will nor intention nor the capacity to invade Ukraine, it’s a non-story. But they will protect the Russian people in the Donbass. And that’s what NATO is looking for.


    NATO is acting like a ignored child looking for attention and wants to have the adults in the room to give it center stage. The reporting of “troop movement” demonstrate the low IQ of our media leaders, and the bias of our leaders.

    Its spring time.
    Its time to think about planting crops.

    absolute galore

    John Day wrote yesterday:

    SARS-CoV-2 is bimodal. 80% of people stop it in the nose, where it is mild. In 20% of people it gets into lungs, guts and bloodstream. It has special aggressive powers to attack blood vessel linings, which can ruin lungs, kidneys, heart and brain.

    So here is where I am. 61 years old, excellent overall health, commute to work by bicycle, no known underlying health issues, not overweight.

    My take on the vaccines: I am not of the camp that they are definitely super dangerous, or part of some big plot, though I do understand the long-term affects are unknown. I don’t feel like they are necessary for everyone, and I am repulsed by developments like the Excelsior Pass and other “vaccine passports” coming down the pike–both the technologies and the ideologies.

    So, as a otherwise healthy 61-year-old, do I get vaccinated because I am likely to be in that 20% where the virus attacks the organs (and still refuse to participate in vaccine passports). In other words, am I at enough risk that the vaccine is worth getting. Or am I safe with my Vitamin D regimen and possibly having some Ivermectin on hand. And has anybody here actually ordered from that India link that JD posted a while ago?

    I also have a child custody situation that complicates things (child is under 12 yrs old). And I have someone at work coming around saying they are doing an “informal” survey of who has been vaccinated, and now reminding me daily I am eligible.

    I am inclined to not get vaccinated due to distaste of the whole thing (I do not wear a mask outdoors in public). But if I am at some risk of messing up an organ or two with long term health repercussions, would prefer to avoid that. I can guess some of the responses, but curious what folks here would do in my situation.


    Yippee for letting us know about the archive of traditional healing!!! This traditional knowledge, while not backed by controlled studies, is not curbed by vested interests, as is a good chunk of research on modern medicine (ie if it won’t make someone a millionaire it won’t get studied). This database will fill an important gap in our knowledge and will hopefully encourage and empower people to take back control of their own health.


    Absolut galore how do you feel about the info on ivermectin? Dr. John Day kindly provided a link earlier for how to get this very cheap and effective therapy. I used it and now have added it to my covid arsenal.

    absolute galore

    @sumac.carol Yes, that’s what I was asking above, has anyone ordered from that link? Is this where you obtained yours? How long did it take? Does the product appear legit? That would be my preference over taking a vaccine.

    Dr. D

    Search this site for “0.54%”, which was the actual statistics of increased survival from getting the vaccine. Posted quite some time ago, maybe three months.

    Why? Well if you get smallpox you’ll die, so if you get an anti-smallpox vaccine you’ll almost certainly live. Huge numbers but not 100%

    But what if the chance of dying starts out at 99.97% as the official CDC says? Then you’ve increased survival by 0.03% if it’s 100% effective. See the problem? And what did you have to do to achieve this miraculous sub 1% increase?

    Subject 100% of the population to an untested, always-failed-before mRNA method that makes companies rich and ends human rights. So if ANYONE dies of the vaccine — and they’re dying by the thousands — they need to pin that number against the numbers saved.

    To me it’s near a wash which is more dangerous, but since like you, at my health and weight my chance of dying is zero, the cost-benefit tradeoff doesn’t work. Even if it WERE tested, which is isn’t, DIDN’T cause side effects, which it does, and didn’t end all human rights, which is arguable.

    Your child is complete immune, there are several CDC studies, best one on in-person schools where not only did no kids get it, but their PARENTS didn’t get it either. Actually, they were like 0.01% safer, but no doubt entertaining statistical noise. As Schools, Administrators, Courts, and Governments are violently anti-science, don’t expect presenting this to anyone concerning custody will do anything but prejudice them AGAINST you, because you follow CDC research and science and they don’t.

    But that’s where we are.

    island raider

    From the March 8 Debt Rattle and the user ‘Maxwell Quest’:
    “Here’s a link with instructions: https://swprs.org/why-ivermectin-works-and-where-to-buy-it/

    I went through the Indiamart website and dealt with the company below, using PayPal for payment:

    Anil Gangwani (Director)
    Kachhela Medex Private Limited
    Shop No. 403, 4th Floor, Panjwani Market, Near Teen Nal Chowk, Gandhi Bagh
    Nagpur – 440002, Maharashtra, India”

    Website is: https://www.medicinesdropshipper.com/

    madamski cafone

    Regarding the VAERS chart Raul showed us today, I did some checking (because you never know where things come from these days), and found the link below, shared not because I trust FactCheck per se but because it shows how much effort they put into challenging any questioning of vaccine safety. Quite the obfuscation act, ‘if you ask me:

    FactCheck SAERS

    Mr. House

    “how much effort they put into challenging any questioning of vaccine safety. Quite the obfuscation act, ‘if you ask me”

    But we already knew that, anybody who died 28 days of being tested for covid and positive was a covid death. Anybody who dies a few days after getting the vaccine, well we need to do more research on that and can’t jump to conclusions. The questions becomes why they lie and why the double standards. Something simple like they just needed an excuse that couldn’t be questioned to print money? Or something more nefarious

    madamski cafone

    Ukraine Belligerence

    More on Ukraine.

    madamski cafone
    Mr. House

    The answer is power. You can not talk rationally with SJWs, they will call anything you argue racist. You can not argue with Covid hysterics, they will tell you that you want to kill grandma. They aren’t open to argument, their goal is power and nothing less. Understand that and you’ll stop wondering why they lie and the double standards.


    @ absolute galore
    “And has anybody here actually ordered from that India link that JD posted a while ago?”

    Ordered and received. Took about 6 weeks.

    madamski cafone

    @ Mr. House

    “The questions becomes why they lie and why the double standards. Something simple like they just needed an excuse that couldn’t be questioned to print money? Or something more nefarious”

    It needn’t be either/or. There needn’t be a ringleader. In a crowded theater on fire, it’s amazing how everybody acts in concert. Properly guided in a properly designed building, they act safely and cooperatively. Lacking those qualities, they act even more single-mindedly, all of them scrambling to get through the door even if the maimed bodies of their fellow beings are in the way, bleeding and screaming on the floor. It’s like they’re all following some plan when they’re all just trying to save their individual asses.

    Power likes us to think it can be laser-focused when actually it mostly spreads and dissipates, creating corruption bubbles like those comprising the foam we’re living in. But the word “nefarious” surely applies to a large % of the motives and plans of the various players involved. Numb-skull would also apply. Clueless is probably the biggest overall point spread of that profile.


    I also have purchased Ivermectin from the resource mentioned above. It took less than 3 weeks. Very efficient and inexpensive. Used PayPal.

    @sumac.carol – agree! The Archive of Healing is an astounding accomplishment and will be my go to for additional insight.

    Based on a post of yours regarding success using nano-silver (I also dose my ancient green-eyed grey furball) – I wanted to weigh in on one more important application. It relates to John Day’s post “80% of people stop it in the nose, where it is mild. In 20% of people it gets into lungs, guts and bloodstream”.

    I spray nano-silver directly in my eyes, up my nose and in my mouth daily (and more frequently if I am out). In my mind, it provides a protective “barrier” in the key areas of potential entry. I have been using nano-silver in this way from the beginning.

    In addition, it will be in my trio for treatment – Ivermectin, Zinc (BioAnQ brand) and nano-silver. I don’t ever use antibiotics, so the nano-silver replaces the Doxycycline in my lineup should I be exposed or have symptoms.


    Tyop. BioZnQ


    absolute galore,

    The issue is not whether the mRNA “vaccines” are dangerous, it’s that we have no way of knowing. Very much like GOM crops, we insert a new technology into living beings without testing for long-term effects. “Nobody dropped dead within 5 minutes so it must be okay”. This has nothing to do with science.

    I got some ivermectin from India here in Athens on Tuesday after it had been underway since Jan 12, 78 days. Big shout-out to Shayam Solutions who persisted where others just refunded me saying there was no way. Yours for life. Went from India to Singapore to Germany to Greece. They put so much effort into finding a way, there’s zero chance they made a profit. Kudos.

    I know I’m in a bit of an odd corner of the planet, and it’s probably easier in the US, but I was impressed by these people, that’s for sure. Indiamart itself bounced my offer, and Kachhela too. These guys persisted. I owe them at least I big thank you. You rock!

    madamski cafone

    @ Dr. D

    “Search this site for “0.54%… But that’s where we are.”

    Nice analysis. Minimal hyperbole, maximum logic.

    Regarding the Russia/Ukraine thing being the shortest war ever if triggered: depends on how sticky NATO feels its commitments are. Methinks it will determine if NATO is still really the USA’s toy or not, and probably if it’s still anything, period.

    I wonder when more nations will start sanctioning us.

    List of current sanctions against the United States of America
    Country / Political union Summary of economic sanction

    The People’s Republic of China The People’s Republic of China has imposed a tariff of $60 billion U.S goods on the 24th of September, 2018 and has proposed a further $110 billion tariff on the United States of America as part of the ongoing trade war between the United States of America and the People’s Republic of China.[6]

    Canada Canada retaliated to the sanctions with a $16.6 billion tariff on U.S goods including steel, aluminum and other products effective on the 1st of July 2018.[7]

    European Union The European Union retaliated to the sanctions with a tariff on 180 U.S goods for over $3 billion on the 22nd of June, 2018.[8][9]

    Mexico Mexico retaliated to the sanctions with a tariff on U.S goods such as steel, pork, cheese apples and other goods for over $3 billion on the 5th of June, 2018.[10]

    Iran Iran is preparing to announce retaliatory actions economically against the United States of America for its economic sanctions in the JCPOA (Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action).[4]

    Russia Russia has banned the import of U.S food related products since the 6th of August, 2014 and this sanction has been extended on the 5th of July, 2018 to last until the end of 2019.[5]


    @absolute galore: any and all of us can give you our thoughts on whether you should get a vaccination or not, but ultimately it’s about your own belief system. You already know the risks/benefits of both vaccination and covid so I think the decision boils down to analyzing two core things:

    1) Which do you trust more, your own immune system or a pharmaceutical? Your chance of getting covid that results in having in one or more organs attacked is slim, but if that fear keeps following you around, you may as well get the vaccine and eliminate it.

    2) If your employer or child custody situation demands a vaccine are you willing to draw a line and fight for your right not to get one? If that’s a bridge too far for you, you may as well get the vaccine and eliminate the potential battle. (your child’s risk of severe outcome is miniscule)

    I have Ivermectin from India via the link at the swiss policy research site (JD). Sealed boxes, blister packed tablets. Process worked like a charm, paid via paypal, dirt cheap to purchase.

    madamski cafone

    @ absolute galore

    You’re healthy. For healthy people, covid is just a cold. Let me clarify, and someone correct any ignorance on my part, pls: it almost always starts in your sinus passages: a head cold. To do this, it has to get in. If your sinuses are nice and wet (like a healthy dog’s nose), and your body fully hydrated, and you aren’t super-exhausted or malnourished or otherwise compromised (this is a bad time to drink heavily), you could snort a fistfull(*hyperbole alert) of covid and probably hardly notice it. To the extent that you did notice it, you would then be wise to immediately ramp up on all the good stuff, especially fluids and electrolytes, zinv, vitamins D&C, etc.

    It’s just another bug trying to get in. The bouncers hate all such critters equally, and given the tools they need to do their job, will remove the gate-crashers with minimal bodily disturbance (sickness as in symptoms). They don’t need to know the offenders specific “rap sheets”. It doesn’t need to make covid-specific antigens. It just needs to have enough healthy robust bouncers and enough transport medium (water) and fuel (electrolytes) to provide munitions (whatever nutrients the immunse system likes) top handle the situation.

    Covid has been hyped into a kind of WMD where we have to know whether we should cut the red wire or green wire when all it needs is a solid kick in the nuts.

    Lipids are good too. Take some vitamin D caps and smush them open, then smear the oil inside your sinus. Whether the D does anything topically as a vitamin, the oil will drown the viruses, who crave water, who feel about oil the way we feel about sminning in concrete.

    They way not to get covid is to take really good care of yourself and keep your immune system active. Expose yourself to people, dogs, trees, homeless people, and smile and laugh as much as possible. Snuggling is awesome for immune systems.



    “Ivermectin has been used in billions of prescriptions to date, and even with high dosing there are very few side effects when used for things like scabies,” Borody told MedPage Today. “This thing in combination of the three works so well, I believe it is the way we should go.”

    A Call for More Research

    While ICU physicians may see ivermectin as something worth trying, others believe the evidence is still too scant.
    Certain drugs are expedited by the FDA, while “other treatments which have been shown to be quite effective — like ivermectin — have not seen the light of day,” Rajter said.

    Currently, there are more than 30 clinical trials testing ivermectin for COVID-19. Bisoffi is investigating high doses of ivermectin for mild infection and Chaccour is also conducting a trial in Spain. A team at Johns Hopkins University is comparing ivermectin versus bicalutamide and usual care among hospitalized COVID-19 patients.
    Last Updated November 04, 2020

    Elizabeth Hlavinka

    madamski cafone

    @ Mr. House

    “You can not argue with Covid hysterics, they will tell you that you want to kill grandma.”

    Which is why arguing is not your ally in such matters. A Shakuhachi Moment(tm) anecdote:

    A Zen monk is arrested for murder.

    The prosecutor tells him he did this horrible deed.

    “Is that so?” says the monk. It is all he replies.

    He is jailed.

    Years later, he is released: the real murderer has confesses. Prosecutor apologizes.

    “You are innocent.”

    “Is that so?” replies the monk.

    If it isw solidarity you want, you are perhaps better off to pursue consensus with the like-minded first, and to do so not in opposition to anything but simply for what you wish. SPend an evening with 20 fellows going from restaurant to restaurant promising to all eat hearily, spend well, and tip lavishly… but no mask jive for you.

    Focusing on opposition, on changing minds by proving people wrong, is a fool’s hobby. I know, because I am that fool and, as we witness here, doing this is a hobby of mine. I do it for personal reasons but, as Michael Reid guessed, my primary purpose is to get people to think outside of whatever box they’re in, or critique, praisefully when possible, the new box they’re building (in order to break out of that box; we’re matryoshka dolls, we humans).

    Pulling works better than pushing with humans. We’ll follow more easily than we’ll let ourselves be pushed around. The Pied Piper comes to mind. The powers that control our structures attain their leverage by promises far more than by threats. Being shown wrong is very threatening to most people, especially today, when our fragile psyches are composed for us by cradle-to-grave social conditioning of a vast and ever-expanding nature. (Hmmm. I wonder what’s on the telly?)

    People will fight fiercely to defend things they hardly believe in if admitting they’re wrong causes them enough pain. The m,ore serious the issue, the more potential pain. Therefore, the more serious the issue, the more childishly stubborn the resistance to admitting one is wrong on the issue.

    Not that this stuff is easy for warm-blooded passionistas like you and I. It pisses us off when someone accuses us of just wanting to kill grandma. Here is where a smart psychopath has such an advantage. They know, and I quote one who almost was elected governor of Washing ton ten years ago or so, that “It’s amazing what people will go along with if you say it with a smile on your face.”

    Hardest thing for an honest passionate person to do, to smile, warmly and sincerely, while saying, “No, I don’t want to kill grandmother.” But it’s SO powerful. “I just have to do what my conscience tells me.” <smile> I practice smiling and holding my tongue. Lately, people have asked me, “Well, what do YOU think?” Maybe I’m getting somewhere.

    April Fool

    madamski cafone

    “Currently, there are more than 30 clinical trials testing ivermectin for COVID-19. Bisoffi is investigating high doses of ivermectin for mild infection and Chaccour is also conducting a trial in Spain. A team at Johns Hopkins University is comparing ivermectin versus bicalutamide and usual care among hospitalized COVID-19 patients.”

    They’ll have to take down the carnival tents of this covid “vaccine” medicine show and leave town before they get run out on a rail. The lies won’t hold.


    @absolute galore
    I have ordered successfully from India three times. I have a stash of Ivermectin & associated drugs for either prophylactic use or early treatment. Until we have better home testing kits, I will assume any fever or flu-like symptoms are covid 19. Why not? Ivermectin is completely safe and inexpensive to take just in case. Your immune system is the best defense, so, keep up your great life style, make sure that you are taking Vitamin D (5000 units daily, per Dr J.D.’s advice), and try to keep informed about progress and experience with the new vaccines. I also bought a good thermometer and a pulse oximeter (cheap) to have on hand if I start coming down with something.
    Trust in life (in the broadest sense) is healthy, not fatalistic.

    Doc Robinson

    absolute galore: “So, as a otherwise healthy 61-year-old, do I get vaccinated because I am likely to be in that 20% where the virus attacks the organs (and still refuse to participate in vaccine passports). In other words, am I at enough risk that the vaccine is worth getting.”

    Keep in mind that the following number are averages for the age groups, so if you are healthier than the average American in your age group, less overweight and/or with less pre-existing conditions, then the risks to you should be less than these numbers indicate. (Disclaimer: this assessment of risks is based on CDC numbers.)

    The CDC looked at the US data from Feb-Dec 2020, and came up with these estimates..

    The chance of getting infected by Covid in 2020 was 25% (83.1 million infections per 332 million population).

    For those who were infected by Covid in 2020, the risk of being hospitalized was (for each age group):
    Age 0-4 — 1%
    5-17 — 0.7%
    18-49 — 2.5%
    50-64 — 7%
    65+ — 21%

    For those who are infected by Covid, the risk of dying from Covid is
    Age 0-17 — 2 per 100,000 (one death per 50,000 cases)
    18-49 — 50 per 100,000 (one-twentieth of a percent)
    50-64 — 600 per 100,000 (around half of a percent)
    65+ — 9,000 per 100,000 (9%)

    Putting it all together, for someone age 61 in average health and taking average preventative measures and treatments against infection, then according to the CDC, if you get a Covid infection you have a 7% chance of being hospitalized and about a half of one percent chance of dying from it.

    Being in above-average health, and taking better-than-average preventative measures and treatments against infection, should reduce the above risks significantly.

    Regarding the risk of organ damage from long covid, this article was posted above:
    • Almost Third Of UK Covid Hospital Patients Readmitted Within 4 Months (G.)
    The study referenced in this article goes into more detail about the characteristics of the patients being hospitalized:
    Compared with the general population, individuals in hospital with covid-19 were more likely to be: male, aged 50 or more, living in a deprived area, a former smoker, and overweight or obese. Individuals with covid-19 were also more likely to be comorbid than the general population, with a higher prevalence of previous admission to hospital and of all measured pre-existing conditions (most notably hypertension, major adverse cardiovascular event, respiratory disease, and diabetes).”

    It comes down to a personal risk/benefit assessments which would require looking at the risks of the vaccine as well as the risks of a Covid infection. For me, at my age and in my health condition, and based on the known risks of Covid, I’m not afraid enough of a Covid infection to justify taking the known and unknown risks of the vaccines (which got emergency authorization but are still unapproved). The benefits to society-at-large also seem questionable, and the overall risks to society are still unknown.

    There’s something about the “first, do no harm” approach which makes me somewhat wary of processes which can turn healthy people into sick and dying people. I want to first make sure the benefits actually outweigh the risks. The benefits of Covid vaccination might turn out to be rather limited, because of the limited duration of antibody protection (6 months?) and the variants which are cropping up. Getting a Covid vaccination every 6 months will repeatedly multiply the vaccine risks to the individual.

    The older and unhealthier the person already is, and the more scared they are of catching Covid, the easier it becomes for them to justify the risks of the vaccine because that person’s risks (perceived and actual) from Covid are higher. I’m not there yet. By the way, I’m not an anti-vaxxer, Within the past two years, I got preventative vaccination shots for 4 different diseases.


    EU Roadmap for Vaccines

    From 2019 – it’s been planned since way before Covid.

    Doc Robinson

    Links to data and quotes used in my previous comment:



    Post-covid syndrome in individuals admitted to hospital with covid-19: retrospective cohort study


    The Netherlands has halted use of the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine for people under 60 following the death of a woman who had received a shot


    Michael Reid

    @ madamski

    “Covid has been hyped into a kind of WMD where we have to know whether we should cut the red wire or green wire when all it needs is a solid kick in the nuts.”

    You are awesome … at times

    Mr. House

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