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Pieter Bruegel the Elder The Fall of the Rebel Angels 1562

 

Why Are The Covid Vaccines So Toxic? (AchGut)
Covid Lies Cost 100,000 US Lives – Mark Skidmore (USAW)
Perspectives on the Pandemic: “Blood Clots and Beyond” (JP)
Biden Mulls Vax Mandate For All US Military After Huge Numbers Refused (ZH)
It’s Time To Start Shunning The ‘Vaccine Hesitant’ (Stern)
Supreme Court: Pfizer, Moderna et al. May Own Your Genes Once Injected (CB)
Record 34% Of US Household Income Now Comes From The Government (ZH)
US Household Income Soared 21% In March, Largely Due To Stimulus Checks (JTN)
Election Panic Coming in 2022 – Martin Armstrong (USAW)
Rudderless, Leaderless, and Drifting (Kunstler)
The Myth of “Efficient Markets” (Rickards)
EU Charges Apple With Breach Of Competition Law (DW)
First 100 Days: 300,000 Deportations (CD)

 

 

 

 

Google translate from German. Long and good. Do read.

Why Are The Covid Vaccines So Toxic? (AchGut)

In calendar week 16/2021, more than 3,700 people in the USA had died in close connection with the vaccination with (biochemically very similar) SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccines from Pfizer / BioNTech or Moderna, with around 210 million inoculated doses. That’s 17 deaths for every million people vaccinated. AstraZeneca’s vaccine, which is based on an adenovirus, has 24 deaths per million vaccine doses in the UK and 18 in France, and 6 in Germany. On average, the mRNA vaccines bring about 20 deaths per million vaccinated, the AZ Vaccine on 10. The figures were compiled by the Rossiya Segodnya agency from Moscow, but we checked them on a random basis: they are correct. Of course, a causal relationship has not been proven in many cases, but such an accumulation of medical reports of deaths in connection with vaccinations has never occurred in the last few decades.

With conventional vaccines, one or two people vaccinated die for every 10 million people vaccinated. Even if you subtract half of the reported deaths in order to price in the spontaneous mortality rate of the sometimes very old vaccinated people, you still have to ask yourself: Why do the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines have such a high lethality? Two major causes of death stand out: anaphylactic shock and bleeding disorders. It has long been known that free mRNA in the extracellular space can trigger acute allergic reactions up to anaphylactic shock. In this syndrome, the immune system overreacts and there is massive release of vasodilating and bronchoconstricting substances. This leads to a general dilation of blood vessels (vasodilation) and bronchospasm with severe restriction of gas exchange in the lungs.

The blood fluid seeps into the periphery of the blood circulation, resulting in a lack of volume, as not enough blood fluid can be pumped back to the lungs and heart. At the same time, the little blood that is still available is no longer adequately supplied with oxygen. The heart begins to race, but the blood pressure drops: shock. The patient dies of cerebral hypoxia (insufficient oxygen supply to the brain) or heart failure. In many cases, the mRNA-carrying lipid particles that make up the vaccines from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna burst when passing through the logistics chain or are already defective from production. As a result, the naked mRNA is brought into the extracellular space (the space between the cells of the muscle into which the injection is made) during the injection. They cause anaphylactic shock in susceptible patients. The risk of anaphylactic reactions with mRNA vaccines is many times higher than with conventional vaccines. That explains some of the dead, probably just under half.

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“..the question, from a pure cost benefit, is how many lives are saved as opposed to how many lives are damaged from the treatment..”

Covid Lies Cost 100,000 US Lives – Mark Skidmore (USAW)

Michigan State Economics Professor Mark Skidmore revealed more than three years ago, there was $21 trillion in what he called “Missing Money” from government books. He’s doing some new number crunching surrounding public policy and the effects on the Covid 19 (CV19) pandemic. It’s all laid out in a brand new report. What he found is appalling. One big fact his research revealed is up to 100,000 lives could have been saved by using Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ). Instead, the medical community and the mainstream media trashed it and told people it was “dangerous” and it “did not work.” That was a total lie. Dr. Skidmore explains, “So, we have all these countries that used it, and a number of countries, such as the United States, that for some reason did not use it and actually prevented it . . . claiming it was unsafe.

“So, our estimate is if the U.S. just allowed it and made it widely available from the beginning, we could have saved 80,000 to 100,000 lives.” Dr. Skidmore said medical officials such as Dr. Fauci, who serves as the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, knew HCQ worked well against Corona Virus. In fact, Dr. Skidmore goes on to point out, “There was a paper published in the Virology Journal in 2005 . . . this is the outfit that Dr. Fauci oversees . . . . So, their journal published this paper that said HCQ was effective in treating the Corona Virus. The people who authored this study had been a part of the CDC at the time. So, we have known this for a long time. . . .We also now know there are as many as 200 peer reviewed studies that say it is effective if taken early on when somebody gets sick. It’s pretty overwhelming evidence if you take it early on, it’s extremely effective.”

That’s not all that works, and this too was suppressed and trashed by most of the medical community. Ivermectin, Vitamin D, Vitamin C and Zinc are a few that are also proven scientifically effective to reduce or obliterate CV19. Dr. Skidmore says, “These are inexpensive ways to help protect yourself and your family. . . . It’s overwhelming evidence that these different types of treatments are very effective.” Another revelation of Dr. Skidmore’s study was the CDC changed the definition on how to count CV19 deaths. Skidmore says, “In the middle of the crisis last year, the CDC changed the definition on how you count fatalities, but they only did it for Covid. It amounts to this, basically, the way we counted how somebody died, was you ‘died of’ some disease of some condition. They changed the definition so that it was more characterized that you ‘died with.’ And, if the CDC would not have changed the definition for Covid deaths? Skidmore says, “I think we would have had far fewer deaths. The data suggests that. . . . If they used the old number, there would have been less (CV19 deaths).”

Dr. Skidmore’s study also points out that the vaccines were never approved by the FDA. Dr. Skidmore explains, “You can look it up. The vaccines are only authorized for emergency use, which means it’s experimental, and it’s still experimental. They are tracking it all. . . . The (vaccine) fatalities are now up to 3,000, and there are many strange and unusual side effects that have occurred. It’s the same thing in Europe and other places. There are many reports of neurological problems, blood clots and a range of related issues. . . . There are all kinds of negative reactions and the question, from a pure cost benefit, is how many lives are saved as opposed to how many lives are damaged from the treatment (vaccines), and we don’t really know what the injuries are, and we don’t know what the long run effects will be.”

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“..we may be creating dangerously overactive immune systems in billions of unwitting subjects.”

Perspectives on the Pandemic: “Blood Clots and Beyond” (JP)

In February, 2021, Professor Sucharit Bhakdi, M.D. and a number of his colleagues warned the European Medicines Agency about the potential danger of blood clots and cerebral vein thrombosis in millions of people receiving experimental gene-based injections. Since then, two of the four injections have been suspended or recalled in Europe and the United States for just that reason. In this episode of Perspectives, Professor Bhakdi explains the science behind the problem, why it is not just limited to the products already suspended, and why in the long term we may be creating dangerously overactive immune systems in billions of unwitting subjects.

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Illegal as hell, but who cares anymore?

Biden Mulls Vax Mandate For All US Military After Huge Numbers Refused (ZH)

President Biden told NBC News in an interview which broadcast Friday that he’s mulling ordering all US military personnel to get a COVID-19 vaccine as commander-in-chief. “I’m not saying I won’t” rule it out, he emphasized in the new interview. This would also mean that anyone wanting to enter military service would have to receive the jab as a requirement to get in, which would likely cause a blow to military recruitment in the near-term. However, he didn’t outright say he’s ready to pull the trigger on the policy, which if enacted would constitute the largest federal government-ordered mandate in terms of forcing the vaccine on some 1.3 million active duty service members, not to mention over one million more reserve personnel.

Describing the decision as a “tough call” he suggested it was being hotly debated. “I don’t know. I’m going to leave that to the military,” Biden told NBC News’s Craig Melvin. “I’m not saying I won’t. I think you’re going to see more and more of them getting it. And I think it’s going to be a tough call as to whether or not they should be required to have to get it in the military, because you’re in such close proximity with other military personnel.” In follow-up to Biden’s comments, national security advisor Jake Sullivan confirmed that a DoD-wide vaccine mandate is “something the Department of Defense is looking at in consultation with the interagency process and [I] don’t have anything to add on that subject today.”

The whole debate was sparked in earnest when multiple headlines earlier this month took note of the large numbers of military members who were rejecting the vaccine. For example, one recent USA Today report noted that nearly 40% of US Marines who have been offered a COVID-19 vaccine have refused to recieve it, according to Pentagon figures. And an earlier report in The Guardian described that “Reluctance to be vaccinated for Covid-19 is now rife in the US military, with about a third of troops on active duty or in the national guard refusing to be administered the vaccine.”

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The new religion.

It’s Time To Start Shunning The ‘Vaccine Hesitant’ (Stern)

For the better part of a year, as the coronavirus racked up hundreds of thousands of American deaths, the flickering light at the end of the tunnel was herd immunity — the antibody force-shield that comes when enough people have survived the illness or have been vaccinated against it. “Go get vaccinated, America,” President Biden said in his speech to Congress this week, referring to the shot as “a dose of hope.” Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease doctor, suggested in December that if 75% to 85% of the population got vaccinated, we could reach herd immunity by June. And with herd immunity, we’d return to a measure of “normalcy,” meaning indoor dining, movie theaters and hugs.

But herd immunity is slipping away because a quarter of Americans are refusing to get the COVID-19 vaccine. Dr. Gregory Poland, director of the Mayo Clinic’s Vaccine Research Group recently said: “There is no eradication at this point, it’s off the table. …We as a society have rejected” herd immunity. Hmm, no! “We” have not rejected anything. A quarter of the country is ruining it for all of us. It’s not just wacky former rockers who have put herd immunity out of reach. It is white evangelicals (45% say they won’t get vaccinated). And it is Republicans (almost 50% are refusing the vaccine). In Texas, 59% of white Republicans have said “no” to the vaccine. You can slap the euphemism “vaccine hesitancy” on the problem, but in the end the G.O.P., and the children of G.O.D., are perpetuating a virus that is sickening and killing people in droves.

A big part of the problem stems from the cultish relationship many evangelicals and Republicans have with former President Donald Trump. They absorbed his endless efforts to downplay the danger of the virus and turn public health precautions into a political freedom movement. But the time for analyzing why these human petri dishes have chosen to ignore the medical science that could save them, and us, is over. We need a different strategy. I propose shunning. Biden’s wildly successful vaccine rollout means that soon everyone who wants a vaccine will have one. When that happens, restaurants, movie theaters, gyms, barbers, airlines and Ubers should require proof of vaccination before providing their services.

And it shouldn’t stop there. Businesses should make vaccination a requirement for employment. A COVID outbreak can shut down a business and be financially devastating. And failure to enforce basic health and safety measures is not fair to employees who have to work in offices, factories, and stores where close contact is required. Things should get personal, too: People should require friends to be vaccinated to attend the barbeques and birthday parties they host. Friends don’t let friends spread COVID.

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“hacking the software of life.”

Good overview of history of legal implications of gene tech.

Supreme Court: Pfizer, Moderna et al. May Own Your Genes Once Injected (CB)

Yes, this article contains a lot of scientific and legal mumbo-jumbo. But in a nutshell, biotechnology companies can own living things if said things are genetically-modified and not naturally-occurring. No mouse is born in nature like the OncoMouse. It is thus patentable. Oil-eating bacteria come from genetic manipulation, thus patentable. Notice how all these so-called doctors and scientists avoid pointing fingers at Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson et al. when someone dies within hours, days or weeks of receiving their shots. It’s almost as if said doctors and scientists are carefully navigating the trademark and patent landscape. They don’t want to trespass on someone else’s property, if you will. Moderna owns several mRNA patents. Doctors and hospitals wanting a piece of the mRNA pie cannot bite the hand that feeds them.


The synthetic mRNA of Pfizer and Moderna, along with the viral vector DNA delivery systems of Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca, change your genetic code, making you “genetically-modified.” Granted mainstream media say the foregoing is “conspiracy theory.” But Moderna Chief Medical Officer Tal Zaks tells you straight up that 1) the shots change your genetic code and 2) the shots do not stop the spread of COVID-19. He says the Moderna shot is “hacking the software of life.” Viral vectors do the same thing. So do these companies “own you” once you get the shots? Well, they own mice and bacteria created with their inventions. Once you get these shots, you are no longer a “naturally-occurring” human being. Prosthetic limbs, breast implants, etc. are not “natural” per se. But they are removable and not part of what fundamentally makes you human. Gene therapy is irreversible. Do the math yourself.

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“And that’s how creeping banana republic socialism comes at you: first slowly, then fast.”

Record 34% Of US Household Income Now Comes From The Government (ZH)

Following today’s release of the latest Personal Income and Spending data, Wall Street was predictably focused on the changes in these two key series, which showed a modest jump in personal spending, which however was dwarfed by a record surge in personal income, to be expected in the month when Biden’s latest $1.9 trillion stimmy hit. But while the change in the headline data was notable, what was far more remarkable was data showing just how increasingly more reliant on the US government the population has become. We are referring, of course, to Personal Current Transfer payments which are essentially government sourced income such as unemployment benefits, welfare checks, and so on. In March, this number exploded to a mind-blowing $8.1 trillion annualized, which was not only double the $4.1 trillion from February, but was also $5 trillion above the pre-Covid trend where transfer receipts were approximately $3.2 trillion.

This means that excluding the $8.1 trillion surge in govt transfers, personal income excluding government handouts would be virtually unchanged from a year ago level at $16TN. [..] government stimulus checks hitting personal accounts [..] in turn helped double the savings rate to a whopping 27.6% from 13.6% in February.

Stated simply, what all this means is that the government remains responsible for a third of all income, or 33.8 to be precise! Putting that number in perspective, in the 1950s and 1960s, transfer payment were around 7%. This number rose in the low teens starting in the mid-1970s (right after the Nixon Shock ended Bretton-Woods and closed the gold window). The number then jumped again after the financial crisis, spiking to the high teens. And now, the coronavirus has officially sent this number to a record 34%! And that’s how creeping banana republic socialism comes at you: first slowly, then fast.

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And then prices start soaring.

US Household Income Soared 21% In March, Largely Due To Stimulus Checks (JTN)

U.S. household income spiked an astronomical 21% in March, due in large part to the $1,400 coronavirus stimulus checks that went out that month, the government said on Friday. A press release from the Bureau of Economic Analysis said that, in the U.S., “personal income increased $4.21 trillion (21.1 percent) in March,” while disposable personal income increased by an even higher 23.6%. The spike “largely reflected an increase in government social benefits,” the BEA said, noting that the American Rescue Plan Act “established an additional round of direct economic impact payments to households.” The BEA also noted a rise in personal consumption expenditures, one that appears to be tied to the ongoing reopening of major swaths of the U.S. economy, particularly restaurants. “Within services, the largest contributor to the increase was spending for food services and accommodations,” the press release said.

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“One of the number one selling objects in Europe is a safe. People are storing cash. Biden was the straw that broke the camel’s back.”

Election Panic Coming in 2022 – Martin Armstrong (USAW)

According to a recent poll, 51% of Americans think Joe Biden cheated to get into the White House. The breakdown is 74% Republicans and an astounding 30% Democrats think cheating played at least a part of the 2020 Election outcome. In Arizona, the 2020 Election ballots are finally being audited as court battles to stop it continue. Legendary financial and geopolitical cycle analyst Martin Armstrong is predicting an election “panic in 2022.” Armstrong explains, “It means extremely high volatility. Despite whatever they want to say, there is a large proportion of the population that do not believe the election. Polls are saying it’s at 51%, but it’s probably close to 60% or 70%. You are also seeing that 60% of Americans want a third party, and you are talking about Democrats and Republicans. . . .

I think because we have such a high number of people who do not trust the election results, I don’t think they are going to be able to get away with rigging the elections again. It’s going to turn into violence. There is no question about that.” Armstrong also sees Biden Administration tax plans on things like capital gains causing problems in the not-too-distant future. Armstrong says, “If they eliminate capital gains, I don’t care if you are Republican or Democrat, you are going to have to sell. Your accountant is going to say if you don’t sell, you going to pay twice or three times as much in taxes next year. So, they can create a serious, serious collapse in the world economy. This is in addition to all this Covid nonsense that they have created.”

Armstrong has been saying for months that deflation would be the overarching theme in the economy. Is that going to continue or has there been a change? Armstrong says, “Deflation is now over. People have to understand. It has nothing to do with the supply of money. . . . If you don’t see a bright rosy future, what do you do? You save your money. . . . One of the number one selling objects in Europe is a safe. People are storing cash. Biden was the straw that broke the camel’s back. People are now seeing that things are going to cost more in the future than they do today. They have also created shortages because of these lockdowns. The inflation is just beginning to start now. It’s based on shortages, and it will continue going into about 2024.”

The bottom line on the cause of inflation, according to Armstrong, is “a loss of confidence in government.” Armstrong also predicts, “We are looking at the prospect of a serious war between 2025 and 2027. All this is completely because of this great reset nonsense. They have been using the Corona Virus as an excuse to try and shut down the economy. If you look at rents in New York City, they are in a freefall. Real estate is going crazy outside of the urban centers. In Florida, what was a $500,000 house last year is now more than $1 million.” On Trump, Armstrong says, “I don’t see him returning to office before 2024.” But, if massive ballot fraud is proven with the Arizona audit going on right now, Armstrong predicts, “The state legislature can recall a Senator” who won by election rigging.

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“There’s no Heimlich maneuver for a nation choking on debt.”

Rudderless, Leaderless, and Drifting (Kunstler)

The numbers are already pretty grim: 70 percent of Republicans and 30 percent of Democrats say they doubt the veracity of the 2020 election. Will the discovery that massive, widespread election fraud actually occurred lead to a constitutional crisis? How will Joe Biden survive in office if a growing percentage of the public sees him as illegitimate? And what might happen if the establishment attempts to blow the whole matter off? Can they still say “nothing to see” when the public has seen so much that they can’t unsee? None of that will happen in a vacuum. Plenty of other events are roiling in the background with the potential to go critical.


Joe Biden’s proposals to jack the US economy by $5-plus-trillion won’t be very good for the credibility of the US dollar, with other countries already eager to dissociate themselves from dollar-based global trade payment arrangements. But that’s just financial esoterica compared to what’s happening on-the-ground across America, with households running on debt and back payments for rent and mortgages piling up, and landlords and banks taking the hit in the meantime. There’s no Heimlich maneuver for a nation choking on debt. And that plan to become the Big Rock Candy Mountain, where they hung the jerk who invented work, is liable to disappoint even the mesmerists in the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

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If you don’t allow markets to function, they cannot be efficient, either.

The Myth of “Efficient Markets” (Rickards)

Mainstream economists have insisted for decades that markets are highly efficient, and they do a nearly perfect job of digesting available information and correctly pricing assets today to take account of future events based on that information. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth. Markets do offer valuable information to analysts, but they are far from efficient. Markets can be rational or irrational. Markets can be volatile, irrationally exuberant, or in a complete state of panic depending upon the emotions of investors, herd behavior, and the specific array of preferences when a new shock emerges. If markets were so efficient, why was Wall Street surprised when it was obvious to anyone paying attention that Biden was going to raise the capital gains tax?

The capital gains tax increase information had been there for all to see for six months, but it took a press release to get Wall Street to sit up and take notice. It should have been priced in long before, and the announcement just would have confirmed market expectations. So the next time you hear about efficient markets, take it with a large grain of salt. But my forecast from six months ago was wrong in one respect. I said the tax rate on capital gains would almost double from 20% to 39.6%. It turns out the rate will actually be 43.4% once a 3.8% investment income surtax is added on top. That surtax is a holdover from Obamacare.

If one were to add state and local income taxes, the combined rate on capital gains could exceed 50%, depending on the jurisdiction. Of course, capital gains taxes are imposed on investments you make from after-tax dollars, so even the initial investment has already been taxed. And the corporations whose stock you buy pay corporate income tax too. When those burdens are included, you’re lucky to get even 25% of your gains back net of taxes. This will be a headwind to stock markets for the foreseeable future.

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“The US company could be slapped with fines of as much as 10% of its global turnover.”

EU Charges Apple With Breach Of Competition Law (DW)

EU antitrust regulators on Friday charged Apple with illegally distorting competition in the music-streaming market through restrictive App Store rules. It is one of the biggest-ever competition cases against the US tech giant and could lead to hefty fines. An Apple spokesperson rejected the accusations, saying the EU’s case was “the opposite of fair competition.” The charges follow an EU investigation stemming from a complaint by the popular music-streaming service Spotify. “Our preliminary conclusion: Apple is in breach of EU competition law,” EU Competition Commissioner Margrethe Vestager said in a statement.

The European Commission, the EU’s executive arm, said Apple’s App Store rules force rival developers to use its in-app payment system — which charges up to 30% commission — and prevent them from informing users of cheaper payment methods. Vestager said this ultimately raised the cost for consumers and limited their choice. “By setting strict rules on the App Store that disadvantage competing music streaming services, Apple deprives users of cheaper music streaming choices and distorts competition,” the commissioner’s statement said. “This is done by charging high commission fees on each transaction in the App Store for rivals and by forbidding them from informing their customers of alternative subscription options.”

This is the first EU antitrust charge targeting Apple. It follows an investigation by the bloc, launched in June, which found that the App Store commission fees are passed on to consumers. The probe was launched after Swedish music streaming app Spotify, which competes with Apple Music, lodged a complaint about the company’s rules two years ago. The European Commission said Apple now has the chance to respond to the allegations and present its case in a hearing before a final ruling is handed down. The US company could be slapped with fines of as much as 10% of its global turnover.

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Biden’s Promise: Moratorium on deportations for the first 100 days of his administration.

Biden’s Reality: Over 300,000 deported in 3 months.

First 100 Days: 300,000 Deportations (CD)

Rights group United We Dream warned Tuesday that unless he takes immediate steps to improve his administration’s treatment of immigrants, President Joe Biden is at serious risk of repeating the destructive failures of former President Barack Obama, who deported roughly three million people during his eight years in office. Despite Biden’s characterization of Obama’s mass deportations as a “mistake” and pledge to usher in a more humane immigration system, United We Dream estimates that the administration has deported just over 300,000 people since January—largely using a Trump-era policy called Title 42.

The policy was first issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) last March—at the start of the coronavirus pandemic—and has been kept in place by the Biden administration. As Human Rights Watch (HRW) explained earlier this month, “The Title 42 expulsion policy has effectively closed the U.S. border to nearly all asylum seekers based on the misapplication of an obscure, 75-year-old public health law.” “That law, the Public Health Service Act of 1944, was designed to confer quarantine authority to health authorities that would apply to everyone, including U.S. citizens, arriving from a foreign country,” HRW noted. “Quarantine authority was never meant to be used to determine which noncitizens could or couldn’t be expelled or removed from the U.S.”

In a statement on Monday, Cynthia Garcia of United We Dream stressed that “Title 42 was designed under one of the most anti-immigrant administrations in modern history.” “President Biden and the Department of Homeland Security must be reminded that their inaction to protect vulnerable immigrant communities seeking refuge in the U.S. is not only putting lives on the line; it upholds a white nationalist immigration system that seeks to expel and keep Black and brown immigrants out at any cost,” said Garcia, who voiced dismay at the Biden administration’s deportation of vulnerable Haitians and others.

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    Pieter Bruegel the Elder The Fall of the Rebel Angels 1562   • Why Are The Covid Vaccines So Toxic? (AchGut) • Covid Lies Cost 100,000 US Lives –
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 1 2021]

    #74239
    V. Arnold
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    Labor Day…

    Lost in the madness…
    Destroyed by unions, politics, and Oligarchs……

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    absolute galore
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    A few choice quotes from “Shun the Unvaccinated” (Which actually is just one big choice quote):

    “Biden’s wildly successful vaccine rollout means that soon everyone who wants a vaccine will have one. When that happens, restaurants, movie theaters, gyms, barbers, airlines and Ubers should require proof of vaccination before providing their services.

    And it shouldn’t stop there. Businesses should make vaccination a requirement for employment. A COVID outbreak can shut down a business and be financially devastating. And failure to enforce basic health and safety measures is not fair to employees who have to work in offices, factories, and stores where close contact is required. Things should get personal, too: People should require friends to be vaccinated to attend the barbeques and birthday parties they host. Friends don’t let friends spread COVID.

    Surely, if a bakery can refuse to provide its services to a gay couple getting married, they can refuse to bake a cake for people who choose to place themselves, the bakery staff and its customers at risk of contracting a deadly illness.

    As a country, America has become too tolerant of half-witted individual autonomy that ignores the existential needs of the vast majority of its citizens. While writing this column I caught a TV promo for a new documentary in which Cher saves an elephant. It made me think of her performance in “Moonstruck.” Vaccine hesitancy? We need Cher to slap us in the face and tell us to “snap out of it.”

    Yeah, once Cher, riding an elephant, makes a Get Jabbed PSA, I’ll run out and get one.

    Had another awkward exchange in the office last week.

    Had perhaps my closest friend not invite me to an outdoor cookout last night because his wife is concerned about my unvaccinated status. People should require friends to be vaccinated to attend the barbeques and birthday parties they host. Friends don’t let friends spread COVID

    I am preparing to be further ostracized and despised I guess. I suppose I could just tell people I have been vaccinated (except apparently it won’t be long before I can’t shop or go to work). I could also see my ex using this to get the courts to take away my custody rights.

    The subject of fake passports was broached yesterday. Something to consider. But honestly part of my stance involves taking a stand against this complete medicalization of society. Ivan Illich is rolling in his grave.

    If this virus is like the flu, how will herd immunity work? Why are flu vaccines changed every year? Why is there no stampede to wipe out flu?.

    #74241
    absolute galore
    Participant

    And I like the way he ignores the fact that it was President Trump who was mainly responsible for the “wildly successful” rollout. And the cartoon at the bottom shows USA Today all on board with Guliani’s supposed malfeasance in Ukraine instead of Hunter Biden. Science and facts. Uh huh.

    #74242
    Mister Roboto
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    I couldn’t help but hear this song playing in my head while reading the Stern (on his Twitter bio, “#Resist” [irony] and “#VoteBlue”, of course) article in USA Today [just accidentally typed “Toady”, was that a Freudian typo, or what?]: https://youtu.be/F43DqnMoWi0

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    madamski
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    Meanwhile, TV viewer numbers and Facebook volume have declined, and lord knows what’s holding rags like the WaPost and NYTimes together. The more they bang the corporate media gong, the less people pay attention.

    And yeah, sure, financially fragile small businesses are going to embrace measures that drive away customers.

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    Dr. D
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    No need to run down the overwhelming, every-single-sentence lies of terrible, terrible thinking in every article by every western adult.

    Why are vaccines toxic? According to their numbers, they’re not. Yes, 10x more dangerous than former vaccines, but 10 per million is near-zero, far more safe than many, many drugs, like even birth control. Of course I don’t believe a word either, but this is their premise.

    Counting up all the data with Skidmore. Yes. As we’ve all said. No one cares about your facts. They are literally the least important thing in the universe. Greg Hunter (different interview) said he was in for a physical and his doctor asked about the vaccine, and he said, “data here, it’s not safe and approved.” The doctor responded, and then Hunter answered with more citations and studies. The Doctor walked out on him, not even finishing the check up. Ran away. This is the state of medicine. So…you believe in this, you have a patient you need to explain the science to for his own health. This is literally THE MOST COMMON thing providers and nurses do all day. But in this case, he runs away rather than do it. Why? And it’s not one man, I have the same experience discussing it with any medical people at all. I say, “3/11 CDC paper said…” “Aaaaaiiiiiiieeeee!” They flee the room. “Unclean! Unclean!” “But I’m quoting the CDC!!!” “Gaaaaaahhhhh! The devil commands you come out!” If those were my heart drugs I was having second thoughts about, they would absolutely 100% stay around and discuss it all day. So they are aware they are on the 3rd rail, and the 3rd rail is a danger to THEM, and not to me. How? They are saving themselves and (in their view) killing their patient and others that patient may meet. Why? Medically, the only reason for that is immediate physical danger, such that doctors must save themselves first and the patients after. (So that in a crisis, there will BE providers left after to help patch victims.)

    They know discussions are illegal and facts are our sole enemy. How do they know? I didn’t get the memo so their actions are confusing to me. I assume advertising and Buzzfeed.

    Vax military: yes, I don’t know what legal structure they use, but it’s always been illegal to refuse ANYTHING in the army, particularly running up Hamburger Hill, so the greatest mystery was why this was ever voluntary in the first place. So that at least a few troops would still be functional when they find out it kills people and marks them for a later Chinese genetic bioweapon?

    USA Today. As it’s Gannet, every sentence is a lie written by morons (who also can’t spell) but their theory here is that the vaccine, fast-tracked by Trump, prioritized by Trump, proudly released by Trump, last week promoted by Trump, so therefore it’s because of Trump that Trump supporters won’t take it. Please explain this to me in little words. And although there is some truth in the stats, they are also bare-faced lies in the usual media tradition of omission and false (totally lying) framing: the largest resistance to Vax are YOUNG people. They are your key group. But you can’t win political points and sell fake, lying Madison Avenue death-aid by saying “look what all the cool kids are doing” and “We’re targeting key Democrats for round-up and annihilation: youth.” That is, YOU.

    33% of income, as seen in past food stamp charts. And all due to the Johnson legacy, exactly as predicted by Republicans then and repeated for decades: It will utterly destroy work ethic and most specifically destroy black families and black prosperity. Boom. Their reply, as year after year this is proven with every new month’s numbers? “No it isn’t. You’re a poopy-pants.” And what of them saying they are establishing a slow installation of every (failed, totalitarian) Soviet policy, like free rent and universal income, with internal passports, zero social mobility, and the universal punishment of hard work? “No it isn’t.” I guess we got here on accident after telling you about it every day for 75 years. Complete surprise.

    So when do we discuss how the 40% tax rate and universal attacks on work and savings utterly impoverish and collapse the country? A: Never. Everyone knows you can just print your way to prosperity while sitting on the beach drinking mai-tais. History proves over and over, no one needs to work. Stopping work is the most direct path to riches. Top economists say so.

    And on, with every word of every sentence of every article on every day.

    So here’s the point: no matter what truth you tell them, no matter how many hundred-thousand times per life you’re proven correct, it never matters. The minute they blink, you’re still stupid and wrong and they’re geniuses and right. I see this not only here, but in corporate life, in personal lives, which is what happens when you remove all consequences, ever, all cause and effect, in life as in markets. This is what happens when every word, from every adult, from every side, has been completely false for a lifetime, and no one gets a black eye or pistols at dawn even once to pay for it. Evil roams free, devouring everyone, as Sir Tomas Moore said. Why would words matter more than superficially, when everything people say is wrong, no one has to back it up, ever? CoughNAFTA,GulfWarcough

    But who cares? It’s only what you DO about it that matters, if you’re so smart. What they are DOING, is that evil is a parasite that requires a healthy host. So you stop FIGHTING them, as a “healthy” host does, and let them do everything they want, don’t stop them, HELP them along, and see what happens, see whether people realize for themselves in their own time, whether they like it or not. And that’s painful, but the parasite cannot live on another parasite. An emaciated, hostile, irrational, unproductive host.

    And this is exactly what they determined to do in 1956, when they realized they couldn’t be removed from the body politic in the Morgan/Federal Reserve/Congressional complex. It was called “Atlas Shrugged” where if you’re small and they’re large, and you want someone to hang themselves, you feed them rope. Or in Communist parlance, you Sell them the rope.

    Greenspan, Rand’s main acolyte, top goldbug, did exactly this in his position, giving the banks all power, all derivatives they could dream of, until a 2nd rate Arcos fund now has trillions in exposure and any GameStop can crash the system. If you look, even the characters are listed, Alan seeing himself as Francisco d’Anconia, your economic Batman, bringing it down as Bruce Wayne from within, while the Joker thinks he’s an ally.

    The book isn’t essentially the point, the point is, THESE were the thinkers, and this was their plan (of many competing approaches and groups over the years, e.g. Kennedy’s direct approach).

    So what do you do? You’ve told them and been right for 60 years. They’ve been discredited in every possible way, via war, via “impossible” Keynseanist stagflation, via taxation, via explosive poverty, via overwhelming oppression. No one cares. Well, here we are. You just “let them win” since communism destroys itself more thoroughly than any of us ever could, all you have to do is let go of the tug of war. Install people that reveal their violence, abuse, and hypocrisy, and will reveal the media cover for it. Text things like “We’re there for the oil” and “We sell arms to abusive kings to use on civilians for the money, and media/generals are all for it!” Now THAT’S Presidential. Beautiful bombs. On the moon.

    Let them have a party as the hyperinflation and collapse takes hold on THEIR watch. With THEIR ideas and actions. Nothing else has the slightest effect on the citizens. Not even death. Everybody has tried everything as they always do. History says this is the only way: going through it.

    Something has changed but it’s hard to define what. Even I have stopped following, tuning, out, my attention roving in other directions. I think other people have too. But as I said earlier, if they no longer have eyeballs, they no longer have influence. They no longer have income and/or purpose.

    #74245
    Germ
    Participant

    :-))

    “it would be wrong for someone to think that because they’re fully vaccinated, that means they’re fully safe from the virus”, said Gabriel Scally, a visiting professor of public health at the University of Bristol. “They can still certainly get the disease and get symptoms, and they can still transmit it.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/01/so-youve-had-your-covid-jab-what-can-you-safely-do-now

    #74246
    Germ
    Participant

    NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL of MEDICINE:

    “wearing a mask … offers little, if any, protection from infection”

    “the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic”

    “masks serve symbolic roles … they are also talismans”

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmp2006372

    It’s all theatre. All. Of. It.

    #74247
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    My main reason for my “vaccine hesitancy” is that I am someone who is very prone to side-effects from the various medicines that I try. Finding the one blood-pressure med I can tolerate (in addition to water-pills)…wasn’t fun. But with orally-ingested pills, if something is messing you up, you can just stop taking it. With an injection that affects your cellular biology, once it’s there, you’re stuck with it.

    I’ve always been a pretty asocial person (I just ended up wired that way), so I’ll just take being shunned, thank you very much.

    #74248
    Basseterre Kitona
    Participant

    The new religion.

    • It’s Time To Start Shunning The ‘Vaccine Hesitant’ (Stern)

    Well, I’ve been trying to label these people as Evangelical Vaccine Fanatics (EVFs) as a counter to the silly “anti-vac” smear…but hasn’t really caught on thus far.

    #74250
    zerosum
    Participant

    Read More …
    Follow the bouncing ball.
    (You are not a monkey/bought reporter)

    • Covid Lies Cost 100,000 US Lives – Mark Skidmore (USAW)\
    Dr. Skidmore ….
    HCQ was effective in treating the Corona Virus … 200 peer reviewed studies
    … Ivermectin, Vitamin D, Vitamin C and Zinc are a few that are also proven scientifically effective to reduce or obliterate CV19.

    usawatchdog.com/covid-lies-cost-100000-lives-mark-skidmore/

    By Greg Hunter On April 27, 2021 In Political Analysis 179 Comments

    mark-skidmore.com/2021/04/22/a-cross-country-analysis-of-the-determinants-of-covid-19-fatalities/
    A Cross-Country Analysis of the Determinants of Covid-19 Fatalities
    markskidmore April 22, 2021

    My coauthor (Hideki Toya) and I recently posted a working paper that offers an examination of the factors that explain differences across countries in COVID-19 infections and fatalities over the past year.
    While the paper has been submitted to a journal, it is not yet peer reviewed. You can access the paper here:

    http://www.cesifo.org/en/publikationen/2021/working-paper/cross-country-analysis-determinants-covid-19-fatalities.

    A Cross-Country Analysis of the Determinants of Covid-19 Fatalities
    Toya, Hideki / Skidmore, Mark

    CESifo, Munich, 2021
    CESifo Working Paper No. 9028

    file:///C:/Users/owner/Downloads/cesifo1_wp9028.pdf

    Some countries made HCQ accessible as many
    health scientists understood that it was an effective treatment for coronavirus, whereas other countries
    prevented the use of HCQ.

    (1 See c19hcq.com/ for a real-time database and meta-analysis of 280 HCQ studies of which 208 are peer
    reviewed. These studies show that early treatment with HCQ consistently has positive effects. In the U.S., HCQ was
    discouraged and even prohibited, even though the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
    (NIAID) published an article in 2005 (Vincent et al.,2005) in its Virology Journal, which showed that HCQ was an
    effective treatment for coronavirus. Dr. Fauci was head of the NIAID at the time. The lead author (Vincent) and
    several other coauthors were employed by the U.S. Center for Disease Control and Prevention when the study was published)
    2. Empirical Analysis
    COVID-19 infection and fatality data come from the World Health Organization (WHO)
    (/covid19.who.int/table). We merge these data with socio-economic, political, geographic, and
    policy information, which are available from several sources as shown in Appendix Table A (World Bank
    Indicators, c19hcq.com/, https://www.kayak.com/travel-restrictions,
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-52103747, https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world,
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID19_pandemic_by_country_and_territory#Timeline_of_first_confirmed_case_by_country).

    #74251
    madamski
    Participant

    Per the logic of vaccination, my objection to the “vaccine” isn’t my p[ersonal risk of it harming me, but the enormously larger risk of it hurting a great many people, maybe even the legendary “everyone” rumored to exist but individually unverifiable.

    If I to engage in discussion with vaccine zealots, I take that approach: “I’m not vaccinated precisely BECAUSE I want to protect you and you and yours from covid and covid complications.”

    That should get them charging like dumb myopic rhinoseri leading with their chin, exposing all the flaws in their logic for you.

    “WHY?!?!? WHAT?!?!? YOU’RE WRONG.”

    “Why? Because it is not a vaccine. Look it up. What? Um, covid? You may have heard of it? And IMO, you’re wrong. Potentially dead wrong. But go ahead and cough all over me. I take vitamin D, eat well, exercise, smile a lot, and most of all, I don’t believe everything I read or hear in the news. Why? Because I enjoy being physically healthy and mentally sane. How about you?”

    And stuff like dat dere. Or, like I tell my son: don’t watch the TV, BE the TV.

    #74252
    zerosum
    Participant

    Without that 34% of income, then our society would have died
    • Record 34% Of US Household Income Now Comes From The Government (ZH)
    ———
    The result is slower death
    • US Household Income Soared 21% In March, Largely Due To Stimulus Checks (JTN)
    —-

    #74253
    Germ
    Participant

    Follow Karl’s directions to access VAERS to see just how deadly the Covid shot is compared to others.
    Extraordinary:

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242243

    #74254
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    • It’s Time To Start Shunning The ‘Vaccine Hesitant’
    “…with herd immunity, we’d return to a measure of “normalcy,” meaning indoor dining, movie theaters and hugs.”

    This is based on something Anthony Fauci said last year. Since then, “the science” has a better understanding of the situation. Herd immunity is now considered “probably impossible” but that fact is not getting much coverage in the media.

    From the journal Nature:

    Five reasons why COVID herd immunity is probably impossible

    1. “It’s unclear whether vaccines prevent transmission”

    2. “Vaccine roll-out is uneven”

    3. “New variants change the herd-immunity equation”

    4. “Immunity might not last forever”

    5. “Vaccines might change human behaviour”

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00728-2

    That USA Today article seems to be more of the “divide and conquer” distraction, with the unvaccinated being convenient scapegoats for government failures.

    #74255
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “That USA Today article seems to be more of the “divide and conquer” distraction, with the unvaccinated being convenient scapegoats for government failures.”

    Just like domestic terrorism. Just like international terrorism. The fault is not with us but with those outside of us. Same old same old. My landlord uses this tactic. Last year when all this was beginning my lease auto-renewed at the end of feb. She called me early march on a friday night at 9 PM and asked if i still had a job. I replied that i did and she had nothing to worry about, she then started talking about lease renewal and raising the rent. This was the beginning of her harassing me until july, using tactics to make me want to move out during a pandemic?!?!?!?! all so she could raise the rent 40 dollars a month. And my lease had already renewed for another year at the same terms due to her laziness. I knew this from when she started but wanted to see how truly terrible she was. These are the types of people you are up against. They have no honor, they have no empathy, they have no remorse. They’re kinda like terminators, they can’t be bargained or reasoned with. How do you deal with this? She is a smaller version of what our society is becoming. Mind you i never missed a rent payment or have caused any issues for her. She hates me because i won’t let her bully me.

    #74256
    Germ
    Participant

    Thanks Doc!

    Herd immunity? Fugget’ about it!

    #74257
    Mr. House
    Participant

    We are the people who will argue with our executors that they have no right to murder us and we wouldn’t do that to them as they line us up against a wall. What do we do about this?

    #74258
    Germ
    Participant

    “Scientists have known for a while that SARS-CoV-2’s distinctive “spike” proteins help the virus infect its host by latching on to healthy cells. Now, a major new study shows that they also play a key role in the disease itself.”

    The novel coronavirus’ spike protein plays additional key role in illness

    And now what we’re doing is injecting the genetic code for that very spike into folks, turning them into spike factories. Nuts!

    #74259
    madamski
    Participant

    @ Mr. House

    “How do you deal with this?”

    I’ve renounced violence and intimidation myself except when direct violence seeks me or mine out, but that’s a spiritual thing I’m doing now that I’ve figured out what a lost fool I am.

    The old me dealt, occasionally, with such things via intimate private conversations where I explained that if I were reported for threatening to shave off someone’s nipples with a jigsaw, I would most likely be released from prison and would then find that person and complete the job. Generally with a foretaste of the horrors awaiting them. It surprises people to suddenly find themselves under their desk with a foot on their mouth.

    If one doesn’t take the law into one’s hands, then the lawful will ram it up your ass with impunity. This is how organized crime works, and all government systems become organized criminal orgs almost before the ink dries on the constitution.

    But I’ve renounced negative confrontation for the most part. Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. Something like that.

    “We are the people who will argue with our executors that they have no right to murder us and we wouldn’t do that to them as they line us up against a wall. What do we do about this?”

    At that point, I say, don’t argue. Pray for their souls and cherish the cleanliness of your conscience. At the end of life, it’s all one has, with or without possible afterlives and such.

    But before that: don’t let yourself be rounded up. Die fighting, fer chrissake. Live by the sword, die by the sword… with honor. Personally, I’ve concluded that this life isn’t worth dying for but the state of my soul/heart/psyche/whatever I R, is.

    Something like that.

    (The lives of others in my reach are, incidentlly, crucial to the state of my soul.)

    Wadda ya wanna live forever?!?

    Also:

    Change

    A true story. Someone I knew, Bob the God, missed a few month’s mortgage payment on a fixer-upper he’d mostly fixed up before hitting an employment glitch. Glitch fixed, he was prepared to pay back, with extra interest, the missing payments, but the banks liked the improvements he’d made and proceeded with foreclosure so they could flip the house for major profit.

    Bob the God dismantled the house entirely from the inside. None of the dismantling showed on the outside. He even took the roof chimney apart and dropped it down the flue brick by brick. It was an empty sheel when he was done.

    They got their house. It cost them a lot more than they’d anticipated.

    If you wait until the time seems right, or you’ve no other choice but to, fight, you’ll probably lose.

    Hit first. Hit hard. Try not to let them see you coming, but once they see you, make sure they’ll never forget you.

    #74260
    madamski
    Participant

    @ Dr. D

    “And all due to the Johnson legacy, exactly as predicted by Republicans then and repeated for decades: It will utterly destroy work ethic and most specifically destroy black families and black prosperity. Boom. Their reply, as year after year this is proven with every new month’s numbers? “No it isn’t. You’re a poopy-pants.”

    It was the Viet Nam war that did that, not the original Great Society plan originally passed.

    About Johnson’s Great Society programs:

    “Legacy

    “Interpretations of the War on Poverty remain controversial. The Office of Economic Opportunity was dismantled by the Nixon and Ford administrations, largely by transferring poverty programs to other government departments.[54] Funding for many of these programs was further cut in President Ronald Reagan’s Gramm-Latta Budget in 1981.[citation needed]

    “Alan Brinkley has suggested that “the gap between the expansive intentions of the War on Poverty and its relatively modest achievements fueled later conservative arguments that government is not an appropriate vehicle for solving social problems.”[19] One of Johnson’s aides, Joseph A. Califano, Jr., has countered that “from 1963 when Lyndon Johnson took office until 1970 as the impact of his Great Society programs were felt, the portion of Americans living below the poverty line dropped from 22.2 percent to 12.6 percent, the most dramatic decline over such a brief period in this century.”[39]

    “In the long run, statistical analysis shows that the Official Poverty Rate fell from 19.5 percent in 1963 to 12.3 percent in 2017. However, using a broader definition that includes cash income, taxes, and major in-kind transfers and inflation rates, the “Full-income Poverty Rate” based on President Johnson’s standards fell from 19.5 percent to 2.3 percent over that period.[55][56]

    “The percentage of African Americans below the poverty line dropped from 55 percent in 1960 to 27 percent in 1968.[57] From 1964 to 1967, federal expenditures on education rose from $4 billion to $12 billion, while spending on health rose from $5 billion to $16 billion. By that time, the federal government was spending $4,000 per annum on each poor family of four, four times as much as in 1961.[58]”

    Sorry. I know too many poor “people of color” (um, colored persons, we used to call them since nigger is indeed a nasty word) who worked their tails off before and after. I visited South Side Chicago ghetto slums in ’63-’65 with my father who did fire safety inspections for insurance companies. I saw first hand how impoverished those people were. It was a nightmare. But Johnson, then Nixon, then Reagan destroyed the economy, replacing it with the most brutal military empire the world has ever seen.

    Whenever anyone points the condemning finger at other persons’ work ethic, I see a 1935 German pointing hes finger at those “parasitic Jews”. I also see someone with serious moral astigmatism.

    #74261
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    We are the people who will argue with our executors that they have no right to murder us and we wouldn’t do that to them as they line us up against a wall. What do we do about this?

    IKR? If it weren’t for people like that, we would probably be able to buy Ivermectin in big-ass bottles at Walmart the way we can with Ibuprofen and we wouldn’t even be talking about Covid anymore except maybe in passing.

    #74262
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    Just yesterday, my neighbor and I were commiserating about the health issues that accompany getting older. She shared that in the last week some serious bouts of disabling vertigo have plagued her. As we were exploring the possible causes around inner-ear issues like BPPV, she said that the last couple of onsets occurred after she had sat for a while reading. That’s when I got suspicious and asked if she had had both vaccinations already. “I had the second shot about a month ago”, she said. I told her that some strange neurological problems have been reported from the vaccines and that I would do a quick search for her when I went back inside.

    The first thing I came across in my search was this New England Journal FAQ page listing vertigo as one of the delayed reactions being reported:

    NEJM — Covid-19 Vaccine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

    “Similarly, many of us are hearing about delayed reactions of unclear significance — examples from my experience include diffuse rashes, vertigo, and late-onset discomfort at the injection site. In all these situations, the relationship to the vaccine is unknown, though plausibly connected (especially the injection-site discomfort).”

    Next, I downloaded the VAERS database and shared with her all of the vertigo and dizziness entries it contained. Needless to say, she gained a new perspective on the Covid-19 vaccine initiative. For the first time she was willing to accept that her recent vertigo problem may be related to the vaccine, and was wondering how long the symptoms might last. I didn’t know what to tell her, but advised that she may want to file a VAERS report.

    #74263
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Because it is a *Covid vaccine religion* there is no need to point out that there is no scientific basis for excluding the unvaccinated from outdoor social gatherings…or that 80% have partial immunity pre vaccination/pre infection…or that asymptomatic folks (some probably false positives) are highly unlikely to spread Covid indoors with poor ventilation. No need to point out that the vaccinated can still contract the disease (especially variations) and spread it to others.

    For equity, all we need to do is have gatherings out of doors or in well-ventilated spaces. (Mostly impossible in Phoenix, AZ in the summer…..). And most folks who feel ill and have symptoms of a transmissible disease are going to stay home from social gatherings anyhow. (Which is not always the case for work or school.)

    But most religions are not interested in equity.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    @ Dr D
    Regarding government transfer payments, NO, they do not automatically result in folks refusing to work. That is a gross oversimplification. Your beliefs rely on faulty data.

    My children and I have had SNAP and Medicaid for nearly 9 years. I have worked gainfully during this entire time and actually have tripled my income (I work more hours) in 9 years. How did this happen? When we were still married, the kids’ father became an alcoholic, lost his job due to alcoholism, and came down with a mysterious illness — this basically occurred over the course of 1 year. I “stood by” him nearly two years, while the illness was cured, he left off booze for a while, and didn’t bother working much for pay. When the boozing returned, and he attempted suicide in front of me, I kicked him out. Due to all that happened I have PTSD. The kids father finally became employed after I kicked him out, but because he knew that child support would be expected, he found work as a mis-classified independent contractor with a small business willing to compensate him in cash, rather than via check or direct deposit. This has enabled him to lie about his income (he eventually became completely “unbanked.”). The commissioner in charge of child support hearings was lazy and didn’t bother looking at all the evidence (banking records, recordings of hearings that proved perjury, etc.) and set his income at 1/3 of what I had hard evidence of — so I get $40/month in child support even tho my income is no more than 1/4 of what he makes.).

    Because of Medicaid I was able to get treatment via psychotherapy for the PTSD. Because of Medicaid the children have had consistent dental care, eye exams, medical and behavioral health treatment when they need it. I have a child on a prescribed diet, mandated by a pediatric endocrinologist…because of SNAP I am able to comply with this diet. My daughter has been skirting the edges of anorexia for years…because of SNAP I am able to feed her whatever she will eat. (Having a father like theirs leads to all sorts of funky behaviors…but since the courts in AZ love joint legal decision making, love giving parents “second chances,” I can’t get them into behavioral health services without his full agreement.)

    BECAUSE of “government transfers” I have had the mental and emotional space to stabilize my life, maintain the basics and stability for my children, and as a result my income is rising. I could not have done this without help. Seven years ago when I kicked out my ex I had been through the wringer for years and I was on the verge of falling apart.

    So THINK before you assert that recipients of government transfers are all sitting back, enjoying the good life, not bothering to work.

    (Now, if you want to propose that the *federal government* should not be the source of these helps because it gives the federal government way too much power and control — I will agree. The actions of my ex should not consign myself and my children to perpetual poverty. We need to have our societies structured in a way that we lend support to those who need it. I have needed “scaffolding” to be able to get back to full functioning. I continue to need some, although as I continue to heal I will gradually leave that scaffolding behind. Personally, I believe such scaffolding should primarily fall upon the local community, rather than the federal government…but that is not how the current structure works. And the level of human suffering that would exist without scaffolding for the vulnerable is immense.)

    #74264
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Whenever anyone points the condemning finger at other persons’ work ethic, I see a 1935 German pointing hes finger at those “parasitic Jews”. I also see someone with serious moral astigmatism.

    A good description of most Randroids (LaVeyan Satanists sans the inverted pentagrams and black candles).

    #74265
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Evangelical Vaccine Fanatics (EVFs)

    Love it!!

    #74266
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @ madamski

    “The old me dealt, occasionally, with such things via intimate private conversations where I explained that if I were reported for threatening to shave off someone’s nipples with a jigsaw, I would most likely be released from prison and would then find that person and complete the job. Generally with a foretaste of the horrors awaiting them. It surprises people to suddenly find themselves under their desk with a foot on their mouth.”

    Damn…the “old you” sounds like my 13 year old daughter. (And I mean no disrespect…this particular personality quirk of my daughter is a part of her innate strength. However, I sometimes wonder where it will lead her! If she eventually passes to someplace akin to where you are now, I will be pleased…except I suspect by then I will be no more than a thought on a butterfly’s wing.)

    #74267
    island raider
    Participant

    Dr. D or others… can someone please provide a link to the 3/11 CDC paper that Dr. D references often. I have tried search engines and also searching the CDC website, and cannot locate anything. Thanks in advance!

    #74268

    Herd immunity? Fugget’ about it!

    If 81% have T-cells, how can that be true?

    #74269
    a kullervo
    Participant

    Hard to fathom which is harder:
    – To lose a friend; or
    – to find out one was wrong about them all along.

    #74270
    Germ
    Participant

    Must watch:

    “In a hard-hitting interview, retired NHS pathologist Dr John Lee discusses the government’s response to the pandemic, analyses why proven scientific procedures were abandoned, makes the case for ending Lockdown now.
    As he asks the question most doctors are unable to discuss in public
    Covid-19: is the cure worse than the disease?”

    https://tinyurl.com/ar9zdve8

    #74271
    madamski
    Participant

    @ phoenixvoice

    “Damn…the “old you” sounds like my 13 year old daughter. ”

    That was my daughter from 13 until very recently, at age 33, when she is finally beginning to show wisdom and restraint in the fights she picks. I was a placid bookworm until my old man decided that the 16-year old madamski deserved a bitch slap hard across the face man over silly stupid shit my old man should’ve gotten his ass kicked for rather than slapping my face, demonstrating to me that the grownups in charge were neither grown up nor in charge, from my old man (a great guy, btw) to the principal to the cop to whatever greedy idiot is in the White House pretending to run the government or something.

    “…no more than a thought on a butterfly’s wing.)”

    An enviable destiny, per my view.

    %^&

    Regarding “work ethic”: it’s a slavery meme. Most anthropologists/archeologists agree that primitive humans enjoyed more leisure time and quality of life before the Agricultural Revolution upset the natural balance and forced labor commenced. Work ethic, my aching back. And who, pray tell, determines what work is ethical and how much is ethically sufficient?

    I was tainted High Potential/Low Achiever in school: I got straight As, never caused problems, but didn’t suck up to teacher. Der Boss-man didn’t think I worked hard enough. I remember, in 3rd or 4th grade, whatever year in which we learned long division, inventing another way to do it and the teacher telling me that was very nice but I needed to do it the Right Way. The system couldn’t even recognize High Achievement when it bit them on the nose. Oy vey…

    ‘I find your lack of work ethic… disturbing,’ said Vader.

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    Germ
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    #74273
    Doc Robinson
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    Raúl Ilargi Meijer: “If 81% have T-cells…”

    As Karl Denninger puts it, “no more than 20% of the population was potentially susceptible to serious disease.” Infections might still happen, but the immune system is better primed to fight it off. This isn’t herd immunity, instead it’s a way of coping with endemic diseases.,

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    Germ
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    Bill7
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    absolute galore said: “But honestly part of my stance involves taking a stand against this complete medicalization of society. Ivan Illich is rolling in his grave.”

    Full agreement here, AG: I won’t be injected w/ any of these vaccines-that-aren’t vaccines under any circumstances.

    Good to see you mention Illich; ‘Medical Nemesis’, ‘Gender’ and (esp!) ‘Tools for Conviviality’ are truly great books. So very odd that those who rule us have systematically removed all potential tools for Conviviality over the past forty-or-so years; as one person said, this Covid-bit sure came along at an opportune time for the Very Few.. 😉

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    Bill7
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    absolute galore said: “But honestly part of my stance involves taking a stand against this complete medicalization of society. Ivan Illich is rolling in his grave.”

    Full agreement here, AG: I won’t be injected w/ any of these vaccines-that-aren’t vaccines under any circumstances.

    Good to see you mention Illich: ‘Medical Nemesis’, ‘Gender’ and (esp!) ‘Tools for Conviviality’ are truly great books. So very odd that those who rule us have systematically removed all potential tools for Conviviality over the past forty-or-so years; as one person said, this Covid-bit sure came along at an opportune time for the Very Few.. 😉

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    Bill7
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    “..You just “let them win” since communism destroys itself more thoroughly than any of us ever could, all you have to do is let go of the tug of war. communism destroys itself more thoroughly than any of us ever could, all you have to do is let go of the tug of war..”

    What’s being inflicted on us is “communism”?

    Mmm.

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    Bill7
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    “Well, I’ve been trying to label these people as Evangelical Vaccine Fanatics (EVFs) as a counter to the silly “anti-vac” smear…but hasn’t really caught on thus far..”

    They get paid for their studied ignorance- in various ways, as called for- and you don’t. Hence the results you mention. Will it work over the long run?

    Mmm.

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