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2nd Week in a Row: More Covid Vax Deaths than COVID-19 Deaths in the US (GP)
Four New Discoveries About Safety And Efficacy Of COVID Vaccines (DfCE)
Response to Dr. Bhakdi (VanDen Bossche)
Israel Bans Entry To Vaccinated Tourists (JPost)
2 More Texas Dems Who Fled State To Block GOP Voting Bill Test Positive (NYP)
Facebook Says 85% of US Users Are Pro-Vaccine (RT)
The Panic Pandemic (Tierney)
“Misinformation” Means Whatever The Censors Want It To Mean (Tracey)
Leak Uncovers Global Abuse Of Cyber-surveillance Weapon (G.)
The Controversial Prosecutor At The Heart Of The Julian Assange Case (IC)
Tribes Are Leading the Way to Remove Dams and Restore Ecosystems (Yes)

 

 

 

 

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2nd Week in a Row: More Covid Vax Deaths than COVID-19 Deaths in the US (GP)

The VAERS website released its weekly numbers on Friday. There are now 11,140 reported deaths from the COVID vaccine in the United States. This is up from 9,125 reported deaths from the COVID-19 vaccinations total from last week. The number of deaths linked to vaccines this year has absolutely skyrocketed. According to the CDC’s own data. The VAERS database contains information on unverified reports of adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines. The CDC government website links to VAERS platform. Two weeks ago VAERS reported 6,985 deaths due to the COVID vaccines. Last week that number jumped to 9,048. That number is now at 11,140.

“The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database contains information on unverified reports of adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines. Reports are accepted from anyone and can be submitted electronically at www.vaers.hhs.gov.” There have been over 400,000 adverse reactions reported to the COVID vaccine. Last Week: there were 1,918 total COVID-19 deaths in the United States. Last Week: There were 2,092 deaths from the COVID Vaccines — According to the CDC-linked VAERS website. That means there were 174 more Covid vaccine deaths in the United States last week than Covid deaths in the United States last week. Why is this not making headlines?

45,000 have died within 3 days from the COVID Vax
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“Doctors for Covid Ethics has sent the following letter to tens of thousands of doctors in Europe, summarising four recent scientific findings critical to the COVID-19 vaccination program. The letter explains each finding as it relates to the biology of COVID-19 vaccines, including interactions with the immune system.

Taken together, the letter warns that these new pieces of evidence force all physicians administering COVID-19 vaccines to re-evaluate the merits of COVID-19 vaccination, in the interests of their own ethical standing, and their patients’ safety and health.”

Four New Discoveries About Safety And Efficacy Of COVID Vaccines (DfCE)

Discovery 1: SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Circulates Shortly After Vaccination. SARS-CoV-2 proteins were measured in longitudinal plasma samples collected from 13 participants who received two doses of Moderna mRNA-1273 vaccine [1]. With 11 of the 13, the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein was detected in the blood within only one day after the first vaccine injection. Significance. Spike protein molecules were produced within cells that are in contact with the bloodstream—mostly endothelial cells—and released into the circulation. This means that a) the immune system will attack those endothelial cells, and b) the circulating spike protein molecules will activate thrombocytes. Both effects will promote blood clotting. This explains the many clotting-related adverse events—stroke, heart attack, venous thrombosis—that are being reported after vaccination.

Discovery 2: Rapid, Memory-Type Antibody Response After VaccinationSeveral studies have demonstrated that circulating SARS-CoV-2-specific IgG and IgA antibodies became detectable within 1-2 weeks after application of mRNA vaccines [1–3]. Significance. bRapid production of IgG and IgA always indicates a secondary, memory-type response that is elicited through re-stimulation of pre-existing immune cells. Primary immune responses to novel antigens take longer to evolve and initially produce IgM antibodies, which is then followed by the isotype switch to IgG and IgA.bA certain amount of IgM was indeed detected alongside IgG and IgA in some studies [1,4]. Importantly, however, IgG rose faster than IgM [4], which confirms that the early IgG response was indeed of the memory type.

This memory response indicates pre-existing, cross-reactive immunity due to previous infection with ordinary respiratory human coronavirus strains. The delayed IgM response most likely represents a primary response to novel epitopes which are specific to SARS-CoV-2.bMemory-type responses have also been documented with respect to T-cell-mediated immunity [5–7]. Overall, these findings indicate that our immune system efficiently recognizes SARS-CoV-2 as “known” even on first contact. Severe cases of the disease thus cannot be ascribed to lacking immunity. Instead, severe cases might very well be caused or aggravated by pre-existing immunity through antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE, see below).

Discovery 3: SARS-CoV-2 Elicits Robust Adaptive Immune Responses Regardless Of Disease Severity Serum antibody profiles were reported for 203 individuals following SARS-CoV-2 infection [8]. 202 (>99%) of the participants exhibited SARS-CoV-2 specific antibodies. With 193 individuals (95%), these antibodies prevented SARS-CoV-2 infection in cell culture and also inhibited binding of the spike protein to the ACE2 receptor. Furthermore, CD8+ T-cell responses specific for SARS-CoV-2 were clear and quantifiable in 95 of 106 (90%) HLA-A2-positive individuals. Significance. This study confirms the above assertion that the immune response to initial contact with SARS-CoV-2 is of the memory type.

In addition, it shows that this reaction occurs with almost all individuals, and particularly also with those who experience no manifest clinical symptoms. The goal of the vaccination is to stimulate production of antibodies to SARS-CoV-2, but we now know that such antibodies can and will be rapidly generated by everyone upon the slightest viral challenge, even without vaccination. Severe lung infections always take many days to develop, which means that if the antibodies generated by the memory response are needed, they will arrive on time. Therefore, vaccination is unlikely to provide significant benefit with respect to the prevention of severe lung infection.

Discovery 4: Rapid Increase Of Spike Protein Antibodies After The Second Injection Of MRNA Vaccines IgG and IgA antibody titres were monitored before vaccination and after the first and the second injection of mRNA vaccines [3]. Antibody titres rose with some delay after the first injection, then plateaued, but rose again very shortly after the second injection. Significance. Even though the antibody response to the first injection is of the memory type, the small time lag after the injection may mitigate adverse reactions, because the abundance of spike protein on the cells in the blood vessel walls and in other tissues may have already passed its peak when the antibodies arrive.

The situation changes dramatically with the second injection. Then the spikes are produced and protrude into the bloodstream that is already swarming with both reactive lymphocytes and antibodies. The antibodies will cause the complement system [9,10] and also neutrophil granulocytes to attack the spike protein-bearing cells. The possible consequences of all-out self-attack by the immune system are frightening.

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The article above references a Dr. Bahkdi video VanDen Bossche has issues with. Could we have an actual scientific discussion? Where do the censors stand on this one?

Response to Dr. Bhakdi (VanDen Bossche)

I herewith wanted to react to a recent video posted by Dr. Bhakdi (https://evidencenotfear.com/proof-that-puts-an-end-to-the-sars-cov-2-narrative-professor-sucharit-bhakdi-oracle-films/). I was quite stunned about the statements he made and could not believe that this had allegedly been published. Hence, I consulted the publications Dr. Bhakdi has been referring to in his presentation (you’ll find them in the article that accompanies the video). My contribution attached explains why his viewpoint in regard of herd immunity and protection against variants is highly questionable. Given his background and credentials, I am very surprised at his conclusions. It’s certainly not that I cannot refrain from criticizing but if we’re not going to stick to the science, we’re going to lose our precious credibility.

I am sure many of you have seen Dr. Bhakdi’s presentation. As much as I’d like to confirm his position, I cannot agree with his interpretation. Dr. Bhakdi is basically claiming that because of previous exposure to common cold viruses we have immune memory cells that can be recalled upon exposure to Sars-CoV-2 and protect us! This is not true! While there is no doubt that there is some cross-reactivity between immune responses to some spike(S)-derived epitopes on beta coronaviruses (CoVs), these immune responses are not cross-PROTECTIVE. Dr. Bhakdi is confusing all along cross-reactivity (which basically means that antibodies (Abs) or T cells induced by one CoV can BIND similar [conserved] epitopes on some other CoVs) and cross-protection.

However, immune RECOGNITION does not equal immune PROTECTION. None of the publications Dr. Bhakdi is referring to has analyzed or claims cross-PROTECTION elicited by other CoVs. Again, Abs that bind to Sars-CoV-2 do not necessarily neutralize the virus and prevent it from entering the cell. Of course, many people will have a history of common cold infection and hence may rapidly recall some spike-directed Abs (i.e., towards epitopes that are shared with Sars-CoV-2) upon exposure to Sars-CoV-2 or after immunization with Sars-CoV-2-derived antigens. However, this doesn’t mean at all that these rapidly rising IgG and IgA Dr. Bhakdi is referring to will neutralize Sars-CoV-2 and protect you from Covid-19 disease!

In addition, Sars-CoV-2-induced Abs were only found to cross-react with 2 out of the 4 common cold CoVs (i.e., only for beta coronavirus HKU1 and OC43) and the cross-reactivity was ‘much lower than that observed for the remaining CoV epitopes’. Furthermore, his statement that people who have built immunity against CoV are automatically protected against all Sars-CoV-2 variants is not true either for exactly the same reasons (i.e., Abs that bind to variants do not necessarily neutralize them and could even be at risk of causing Ab-dependent enhancement of disease; ADE).

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Israel is a prime example alright; of how the vaccine hunger screws up a country.

Israel Bans Entry To Vaccinated Tourists (JPost)

Vaccinated tourists will not be allowed to enter Israel on August 1, as had been previously planned, Health Ministry Director-General Prof. Nachman Ash said Sunday, also announcing that the authorities will discuss measures to restrict all travel. “We are postponing the date for the entry of tourists; it is not going to happen on August 1,” he said, adding that a new date has not been set. “Unfortunately, the current situation does not permit us to allow tourists to enter.” The director-general also warned the public that with the Delta variant raging around the world, this is not a time to fly abroad. He said the authorities are examining how to restrict travel, either by expanding the list of countries under the travel ban or severe travel warning, or by other means.


Channel 12 reported that health official are considering several options for a recommendation to bring before the cabinet, including shutting the airport for non essential traveling and requiring all travelers to enter isolation regardless of their immunization status and the country they fly from. However, according to the report, the most likely recommendation will be to significantly expand the list of countries under travel ban or travel warning – in both cases all returnees have to quarantine, for the first group Israelis are prohibited from visiting unless they obtain a permission from the devoted special governmental committee.

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Not arrested yet; they won’t return till August.

2 More Texas Dems Who Fled State To Block GOP Voting Bill Test Positive (NYP)

Two more Texas Democrats who traveled to Washington, DC, last week to prevent a vote on a Republican voting bill have tested positive for the coronavirus, a report said. The new cases, announced late Sunday by the Texas House Democratic Caucus, are in addition to the three other state Democratic lawmakers on the trip who have already tested positive for COVID-19, the Texas Tribune reported. The infected lawmakers are all fully vaccinated, the report said — and one is experiencing mild symptoms. Among the two newest members to test positive is state Rep. Trey Martinez Fischer, the lawmaker said. “Today, I received a positive COVID-19 rapid antigen test result. I am fully vaccinated, and had tested negative on Friday and Saturday.


“I am quarantining until I test negative, and I am grateful to be only experiencing extremely mild symptoms,” he told the newspaper in a statement. The Lone Star State Democrats left the state House of Representatives last Monday and flew aboard two chartered flights to the nation’s capital to scuttle a Republican-backed election reform bill by depriving the chamber a quorum. While in Washington to wait out the special legislative session called by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, the Democrats met with congressional lawmakers to press them to approve the For the People Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Act. The state lawmakers have been slammed by Republicans for running away from their duties to represent their constituents, and Abbott has threatened to have them arrested when they return to Texas in August.

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Because our users are not terribly smart people…

Facebook Says 85% of US Users Are Pro-Vaccine (RT)

Facebook has patted itself on the back for encouraging vaccine acceptance among its US users, noting an increase of 10-15% since January, while firing back at President Joe Biden’s claim of subverting the rollout. “The data shows that 85% of Facebook users in the US have been or want to be vaccinated against COVID-19,” Facebook VP of Integrity Guy Rosen said in a blog post on Saturday, rejecting Biden’s charge that social media was to blame for the lack of enthusiasm among Americans towards the Covid-19 jabs. On Friday, Biden tore into social media platforms such as Facebook, accusing them of “killing people” by not cracking down on non-conventional opinions about vaccination fervently enough.

“They’re killing people… Look, the only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated. And they’re killing people,” the US president said. Dismissing the allegation, Rosen accused Biden of essentially making Facebook a scapegoat for his administration’s failure to reach its self-imposed goal of having 70% Americans vaccinated by July 4. “President Biden’s goal was for 70% of Americans to be vaccinated by July 4. Facebook is not the reason this goal was missed,” Rosen said, arguing that figures “tell a very different story to the one promoted by the administration.” Facebook, Rosen claimed, has seen a dramatic increase in confidence in Covid-19 vaccines among its American users in the last six months.

“Since January, vaccine acceptance on the part of Facebook users in the US has increased by 10-15 percentage points (70%->80-85%),” Rosen wrote, citing a recent survey by Carnegie Mellon University. He added that distrust of the jabs among racial and ethnic minorities has “shrunk considerably” as well. Facebook has deployed “unprecedented resources” in its fight against the pandemic, such as “pointing people to reliable information” and facilitating vaccine appointments, he noted. In addition to persuading people of the effectiveness and safety of the vaccines through pop-up labels under coronavirus-related posts, Facebook has been waging a war on information that does not align with the official stance of the World Health Organization (WHO) or local governments.

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” It was a dangerous experiment being conducted without knowing the answer to the most basic question: Just how lethal is this virus?”

The Panic Pandemic (Tierney)

The United States suffered through two lethal waves of contagion in the past year and a half. The first was a viral pandemic that killed about one in 500 Americans—typically, a person over 75 suffering from other serious conditions. The second, and far more catastrophic, was a moral panic that swept the nation’s guiding institutions. Instead of keeping calm and carrying on, the American elite flouted the norms of governance, journalism, academic freedom—and, worst of all, science. They misled the public about the origins of the virus and the true risk that it posed. Ignoring their own carefully prepared plans for a pandemic, they claimed unprecedented powers to impose untested strategies, with terrible collateral damage. As evidence of their mistakes mounted, they stifled debate by vilifying dissenters, censoring criticism, and suppressing scientific research.

If, as seems increasingly plausible, the coronavirus that causes Covid-19 leaked out of a laboratory in Wuhan, it is the costliest blunder ever committed by scientists. Whatever the pandemic’s origin, the response to it is the worst mistake in the history of the public-health profession. We still have no convincing evidence that the lockdowns saved lives, but lots of evidence that they have already cost lives and will prove deadlier in the long run than the virus itself. One in three people worldwide lost a job or a business during the lockdowns, and half saw their earnings drop, according to a Gallup poll. Children, never at risk from the virus, in many places essentially lost a year of school. The economic and health consequences were felt most acutely among the less affluent in America and in the rest of the world, where the World Bank estimates that more than 100 million have been pushed into extreme poverty.

The leaders responsible for these disasters continue to pretend that their policies worked and assume that they can keep fooling the public. They’ve promised to deploy these strategies again in the future, and they might even succeed in doing so—unless we begin to understand what went wrong. The panic was started, as usual, by journalists. As the virus spread early last year, they highlighted the most alarming statistics and the scariest images: the estimates of a fatality rate ten to 50 times higher than the flu, the chaotic scenes at hospitals in Italy and New York City, the predictions that national health-care systems were about to collapse. The full-scale panic was set off by the release in March 2020 of a computer model at the Imperial College in London, which projected that—unless drastic measures were taken—intensive-care units would have 30 Covid patients for every available bed and that America would see 2.2 million deaths by the end of the summer.

The British researchers announced that the “only viable strategy” was to impose draconian restrictions on businesses, schools, and social gatherings until a vaccine arrived. This extraordinary project was swiftly declared the “consensus” among public-health officials, politicians, journalists, and academics. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, endorsed it and became the unassailable authority for those purporting to “follow the science.” What had originally been a limited lockdown—“15 days to slow the spread”—became long-term policy across much of the United States and the world. A few scientists and public-health experts objected, noting that an extended lockdown was a novel strategy of unknown effectiveness that had been rejected in previous plans for a pandemic. It was a dangerous experiment being conducted without knowing the answer to the most basic question: Just how lethal is this virus?

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Freedom of speech is dead, but not from the virus.

“Misinformation” Means Whatever The Censors Want It To Mean (Tracey)

Government officials and their lackeys in the media often speak of the term “misinformation” as though it has some sort of universally-accepted, politically neutral definition. That’s always been total BS, but generating the mirage of neutrality has been a necessary ingredient in popularizing the “misinformation” concept over the past five years. Those who reject the impositions of mainstream cultural and political elites must not be simply wrong, but maliciously brainwashed by “misinformation” that complicit entities such as the social media platforms allow to proliferate.

In 2018, when these entities engineered a simultaneous cross-platform purge of Alex Jones, there was an avalanche of media apologia for this hitherto unprecedented act of censorship. Jones had caused unique harm, the journalists cried, and the platforms were merely “Enforcing The Rules.” But of course what they were oblivious to was that “the rules,” such as they exist, are just a function of power. “Misinformation” and other alleged infractions of social media “rules” are determined at the whim of whoever happens to wield censorship and speech-regulation power at that moment. Journalists themselves, chronically oblivious to their own power, were exactly the ones who agitated for the expulsion of Jones, and their agitation succeeded.

Here is an article I wrote the day after this cross-platform purge: “Alex Jones’ lunacy is self-evident and needs no further comment. The only relevant question is whether we want a media landscape in which a tiny cadre of unelected private officials are empowered to decide, in secret and with no mechanisms for accountability, that the time has come to purge this lunatic from the public square. “Now, just around three years later, we receive a declaration from a spokesperson for the President that the Federal Government is seeking to coerce, mandate, or otherwise bring about routinized cross-platform purges. “You shouldn’t be banned from one platform, and not others, for providing misinformation out there,” press secretary Jen Psaki demanded, creepily calling on the social media giants to create “robust enforcement strategies that bridge their properties.”

So if you were under any illusion back in 2018 that this would ever stop with Jones — a figure believed to be sufficiently repulsive that any punishment doled out to him would not have broader implications for the average internet user — well, it didn’t take long for proof of just how wrong you were. Journalists and others with influential platforms, particularly those who spend all day everyday on the internet and rely on it for their livelihood, at least in theory have a duty to demonstrate some semblance of foresight. Meaning, to consider issues of public interest that go beyond their short-term desire for political vengeance.

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Big story yada yada, even Snowden says it, but it’s from the Guardian.

Leak Uncovers Global Abuse Of Cyber-surveillance Weapon (G.)

Human rights activists, journalists and lawyers across the world have been targeted by authoritarian governments using hacking software sold by the Israeli surveillance company NSO Group, according to an investigation into a massive data leak. The investigation by the Guardian and 16 other media organisations suggests widespread and continuing abuse of NSO’s hacking spyware, Pegasus, which the company insists is only intended for use against criminals and terrorists. Pegasus is a malware that infects iPhones and Android devices to enable operators of the tool to extract messages, photos and emails, record calls and secretly activate microphones. The leak contains a list of more than 50,000 phone numbers that, it is believed, have been identified as those of people of interest by clients of NSO since 2016.

Forbidden Stories, a Paris-based nonprofit media organisation, and Amnesty International initially had access to the leaked list and shared access with media partners as part of the Pegasus project, a reporting consortium. The presence of a phone number in the data does not reveal whether a device was infected with Pegasus or subject to an attempted hack. However, the consortium believes the data is indicative of the potential targets NSO’s government clients identified in advance of possible surveillance attempts. Forensics analysis of a small number of phones whose numbers appeared on the leaked list also showed more than half had traces of the Pegasus spyware. The Guardian and its media partners will be revealing the identities of people whose number appeared on the list in the coming days.

They include hundreds of business executives, religious figures, academics, NGO employees, union officials and government officials, including cabinet ministers, presidents and prime ministers. The list also contains the numbers of close family members of one country’s ruler, suggesting the ruler may have instructed their intelligence agencies to explore the possibility of monitoring their own relatives. The disclosures begin on Sunday, with the revelation that the numbers of more than 180 journalists are listed in the data, including reporters, editors and executives at the Financial Times, CNN, the New York Times, France 24, the Economist, Associated Press and Reuters.

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It’s personal.

The Controversial Prosecutor At The Heart Of The Julian Assange Case (IC)

The battle to extradite WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange from the United Kingdom to the United States is shaping up to be a legal case of paramount importance to the future of national security reporting. The U.S. continues to press the case even after a change of administration, with President Joe Biden keeping up efforts to bring Assange to a U.S. court on Espionage Act charges for his role in publishing classified government documents. One little-noted name in filings from extradition hearings in the U.K. keeps popping up as a key figure in the U.S. government’s case: a federal prosecutor named Gordon Kromberg. On the central questions of what assistance Assange provided to whistleblower Chelsea Manning and the ostensible harm his actions caused to U.S. national security, a U.K. court filing earlier this year cites Kromberg’s assertions verbatim.

“Mr. Kromberg’s evidence on this is clear,” the filing says. “He stated that stealing hundreds of thousands of documents from classified databases was a multistep process.” The same document cites Kromberg again, claiming that “well over one hundred people were placed at risk from the disclosures and approximately fifty people sought and received assistance from the US” — references to purported U.S. intelligence assets outed by the documents WikiLeaks published. Kromberg, an assistant United States attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia, may be unknown to foreign and even many American observers. In U.S. legal circles, though, he has been a highly controversial figure for over two decades, dogged by accusations of bias and politicization in his prosecutions.

For years, civil rights activists and lawyers tried to draw attention to allegations of Kromberg’s abusive practices. Rather than being pushed into obscurity by these efforts, today he is serving as a key figure in one of the most important civil liberties cases in the world. In all, the January court documents from Assange’s extradition case mention Kromberg over 40 times to help make the legal argument for extraditing Assange. Many of his statements go to the heart of the Espionage Act case against the WikiLeaks publisher.

[..] In the years after the 2001 September 11 terrorist attacks, Gordon Kromberg became the government’s point man on notorious terrorism cases involving allegations of torture and malicious prosecution. In the past, opposing counsels and civil rights groups accused him of engaging in racist behavior and using unethical tactics in pursuit of convictions. Legal experts said that the inclusion of a notoriously politicized and aggressive prosecutor on a high-profile extradition case like Assange’s is a sign of how strongly the government is motivated to extradite the WikiLeaks publisher and bring Espionage Act charges at all costs.

“A common factor in Kromberg’s career has been a willingness to take very provocative positions on behalf of the government and stay the course with them,” said Wadie Said, a professor of law at the University of South Carolina and author of “Crimes of Terror: The Legal and Political Implications of Federal Terrorism Prosecutions.” “He has also shown great willingness to take on highly political cases and to be a lightning rod himself for attention; he often makes himself part of the story with his own actions and statements.” Said added, “From my perspective, some of the things that Kromberg has said in the past and the positions that he has taken are quite tendentious and even vindictive in terms of his mindset toward the person that he is targeting.”

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Tribes Are Leading the Way to Remove Dams and Restore Ecosystems (Yes)

Cameron Macias bent down to examine a small pile of sawdust-filled scat on the floor of the former Lake Mills on the Elwha River in the northwest corner of Washington state in 2016. It was a sign that beavers were moving into the area after a 100+ year absence. “There’s very small dam-building activity in some of the side tributaries,” says Macias, who was working at the time as a wildlife technician for the Lower Elwha Klallam Tribe, of which she is a member. “It’s kind of funny and ironic because of the dam removal,” Macias says with a laugh. The dams she’s referring to—the Elwha and Glines Canyon dams—were removed in 2011 and 2014 respectively, and together they are considered the world’s largest dam removal project to date.

Many other tribes have looked to the success of the Elwha River dam removals in bringing down fish-blocking dams in their lands as well, including along the Snake River and the Columbia River in the Pacific Northwest. Together, the country’s 2 million dams block access to more than 600,000 miles of river for fish. And by 2030, the American Society of Civil Engineers estimates that 80% of those dams will be beyond their 50-year lifespans. Given how obsolete and potentially dangerous this infrastructure will be, not to mention its negative effects on declining fish stocks, the best solution for many aging dams is to simply remove them. But bringing down a dam is a big job.

When the Elwha River dams fell, it was the culmination of many decades of successful partnerships among the Lower Elwha Klallam Tribe, the National Park Service, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and dozens of other local and national organizations. Today, those partnerships continue to support the tribe in righting historic wrongs. The Elwha Dam was built in 1910 to provide electricity to attract new settlers, in flagrant violation of a Washington state law that said dams must allow for fish passage. At the time, no one consulted the Lower Elwha Klallam people, whose culture rests on the salmon that would be blocked by the dams. “We had a few of the elders that even stood in the areas of the lower dam where they were starting to build to protest,” says Frances Charles, the tribal chairwoman for the Lower Elwha Klallam Tribe.

But the dam construction proceeded, and afterward, hatcheries were put in as a sort of life support to keep salmon populations afloat. Every year, the fish born in the hatcheries would try to return to the spawning grounds of their ancestors, banging their heads on the dam in a desperate attempt to get upstream. “We ourselves felt like we were banging our heads against the concrete wall, no different than the salmon,” Charles says. Things changed in January 1986 when the tribe filed a motion to stop the relicensing of the dams, citing that the dam prevented them from exercising their treaty rights because it blocked fish passage. “The tribe and [Olympic National] Park and the environmental interests said, ‘You know, if you’re going to license these things, you’re going to provide fish passage,’” says Mike McHenry, the Tribe’s fisheries habitat manager. Studies showed that building fish passages wouldn’t effectively restore the salmon runs, so the decision was made to take down the dams. Still, it took an Act of Congress and $325 million to complete the job.

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  • #80195
    Michael Reid
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    @madamski

    I will be your friend. What is your question?

    #80196
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @glacons: “Clotting has been a known issue with mRNA vaccines. So although ADE may indeed become a thing, right now the focus must be on the causes of today’s injuries. We should not misdirect people’s attention to potential future problems when we have enough right now.”

    Agree. ADE *may* become a thing in the future, but since the wall of denial is so thick and high, let’s stick with what’s right in front of our faces and try to weaken that wall right now using known information.

    People are suffering and dying within days of the vaxx. This needs to stop yesterday. Especially before more children are injected.

    #80197
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @john day: I had a bear of a time mowing last week, too, here in upstate NY. Took me 3x as long as usual, and I stopped a few times just to give me and the mower a break from the frustration of damp, thick, heavy grass clogging up the works and making me work way harder in hot/humid weather. (and I don’t have your lot size to mow!)

    #80198
    John Day
    Participant

    @TAE Summary: Bravo! again, Mate… I still want some of that

    Go GERM!

    “Calgon take me away…”

    #80199
    John Day
    Participant

    @Upstate NYer: We are brothers. Nobody understands.

    #80200
    upstateNYer
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    @V Arnold: “A week in with record deaths (100+) and cases (10,000++) every day; it’s apparent Thailand screwed the pooch on controlling the virus…”

    Please don’t think this. Whatever the sarscov-2 is or where it came from, it’s a respiratory coronavirus and there are many in existence. No matter the level of hubris humans attain, we really do not *control* a respiratory virus. Our best bet is to protect the vulnerable, use whatever is available for prophylaxis and early treatment to avoid the worst outcomes, and carry on with life.

    Every place on this earth is going to face this virus at some point, and each place will come through the other side of it as best possible. That it’s Thailand’s turn? So turns the natural world …

    Australia and New Zealand … keep forcing it back using closed [island] borders and harsh lockdowns over a few dozen cases popping up. I can’t see where that cycle ever ends, but I’m happy to be proved wrong on this.

    #80201
    upstateNYer
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    @John Day: “We are brothers.” Ain’t we though? 🙂

    I rent an apartment so currently have only a small raised bed garden. It is NOT growing well at all this year. We had 90s in May!!! (and june and july) I plant spinach, chard and beets (for multiple harvests of baby greens, no space to allow full size growth). My spinach bolted by the time it was a couple inches tall!

    The problem here in upstate is that, yes, it gets hot earlier in the spring than it used to, which sounds good … BUT we have snow and heavy frost into our late-ish spring so you can’t plant many things too early … BUT … it gets too hot when the little ones are starting to grow and they can’t handle that level of heat. Did any of that make sense? (and just one opinion, btw)

    Interesting twist in weather over the past 5-10 years.

    #80202
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    TAE Summary is phenomenal. Each includes some comments that are literally lol. Such as the latest …

    “– One should quarantine until negative; TAEers have always been negative and so never needed to quarantine”

    How can someone not chuckle at that? So appreciated. Thank you!

    #80203
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    The private/public mRNA vaccine jab campaign has reached a trust turning point. Once confidence is gone, institutions never gain it back again and collapse. For example, UK’s 100+ pandemic failings from Naked Capitalism:

    From the beginning, the response to the coronavirus pandemic has been all about propaganda and making money. Public Health ignored. Gene therapies were renamed “mRNA vaccines” and the managerial experts immediately concluded that they would act just like earlier sterilizing viral vaccines. The CDC models predicted the virus would be gone by November. Clearly that is not happening. Burying their heads in the sand, the FDA failed to require follow-up surveillance for the safety and efficacy of the jabs injected into half of all Americans. That would cost pharmaceutical corporations money. Instead, the number of cases and deaths are starting to rise again especially in highly vaccinated Israel and UK, the USA too.

    Anecdotally, common sense would indicate that the fully vaccinated should restart wearing masks in public, social distance, get out in the sun, take vitamins C & D and zinc daily, exercise, lose weight, get your blood glucose down. Help and protect each other. Survive.

    #80204
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Vietnam Vet: “TV BASED SCHOOLS”

    May the gods help us. Like there isn’t too much TV already. Let’s add 6+ more hours a day.

    #80205

    Wasn’t VDB the one saying that we could be messing with human immunity itself? If not, I am sorry. I agree he’s earnest.

    I think Yeadon’s take is closer to what’s up. I can think of no benevolent reason to vaccinate the children. I can think of no reason to vaccinate the already exposed. I can think of no reason why so many people would expose their children to this “vaccine”.
    And yet we are coming perilously close to mandates.

    #80206
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Sorry, gotta continue … “EVERY CHILD has a COMPUTER and INTERNET ACCESS …”

    Let’s not ruin more young people’s minds and lives than we already are, ok?

    #80207
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ glacons31

    “So although ADE may indeed become a thing, right now the focus must be on the causes of today’s injuries. We should not misdirect people’s attention to potential future problems when we have enough right now.”

    That’s the logic behind drill baby drill and burn baby burn. Never mind the future. Feed today.

    If Geert Van Den Bossche is right, we need to be looking ahead. If he’s wrong, objectively, he nonetheless apparently believes subjectively that he is right, and if so, the clotting things is minor in comparison. Meanwhile, the clotting is blatantly manifesting and getting ample attention. ADE isn’t.

    In a free society, one does what one feels is right if one is morally congruent. IN a free wsociety, I am instantly wary of people saying “must be ” “should not”.

    I’ll quote this: “This was graphically demonstrated by Sanofi’s vaccine where it took around 18-24 months for the ADE to show up (it was completely absent preclinically). The hypothesis is that there is some B cell maturation process that goes on and so the effect take some time. The Sanofi vaccine primed the immune system and they saw ADE on subsequent infection. The interesting part is that it does not show such effects for those who were seropositive at immunization. So a prior infection does not lead to ADE when you are immunized .”

    So the time to sound the alarm would be now. Meanwhile, the good news is that the above suggests that if you have already contracted covid, getting the clot shot is unlikely to trigger ADE. Just clots. Oh joy?

    @ John Day

    “Have you considered mixed permaculture planting of that 4/5 acres? UNless you have livestock, grass is an ecological disaster and way expensive including hard labor.

    #80208
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ Michael Reid

    I was waiting for Dr. D to clarify whom he spoke of in remark #80170. BUt yes, let’s be friends. I’ll go get the squirt guns; you get the pea-shooters. We’ll raise hell.

    #80209
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    ALso, it is possible to address multiple interrelated problems at once. Let Bossche fight his particular war as he sees fit. He’s certainly not denying the more direct and immediate dangers of the clotshot. The Titanic wopuld’ve benefitted from a long-range ‘berg spotter on the bow, even as it perhaps struggled with a blown steam boiler.

    #80210
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @my parents: I am struggling mightily with the *why* of this vaxx push. I know I’ll get a few pebbles tossed at me for saying this … but I still have a hard time believing this is a globally-coordinated depopulation plan because oil is running out. Maybe I still have a ways to go before my eyes are wide open. Or wide shut. (Which term is popular now?)

    At the same time … if not depop, then WHAT IS IT? There is no good reason to vaccinate children, pregnant women, or even adults up to the age of 55-65 who don’t have serious co-morbidities.

    We have never in history rolled out something like this experimental vaxx initiative with its monetary “prizes” and moral/guilt imperatives. Those are the most disturbing elements. Those are the things that batter my brain day and night.

    So. Exhausting.

    #80211
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ upstatenyer

    “I am struggling mightily with the *why* of this vaxx push. I know I’ll get a few pebbles tossed at me for saying this … but I still have a hard time believing this is a globally-coordinated depopulation plan because oil is running out. Maybe I still have a ways to go before my eyes are wide open. Or wide shut. (Which term is popular now?)”

    Psychosis is a possibility. Comparison: gambling addicts doubling down on bets they can’t afford because they can’t admit they screwed themselves out of their life savings.

    Self-delusion is always popular: Perhaps Bill Gates can’t admit that his so-called benevolent philanthropy is malignant self-indulgence. Or that just because all the other cool rich guys have sex with barely pubescent girls doesn’t mean it isn’t nasty evil.

    That said, singular explanations typically don’t avail in large complex systems. There are more than one pair of butterfly wings flapping us toward megastorms. There are probably rich bastards who think in terms of world domination. There are also and certainly millions of institutionalized fools who lack the courage to admit that they are not members of the Rebel Alliance but instead minions of empire. There are ample #s of folks who don’t care what it is so long as they can make gobs of money by it.

    The idea that there is ONE true explanation/motivation seems to me more the product of our desire for simply understood explanation rather than deal provisionally with emergent phenomena from a sea f chaos as such is globalization via 8 billion wacky hominids. Everyone wants in on the game, said Dr. Evil, but most of them just want a good job with benefits. sigh. It’s so hard to find truly evil help.

    Whose Turn Now?

    *hey, it’s possible, and the scene is crazy enough, and I like imagining Prince Charles as an iguana

    #80212
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @madam: while “it is possible to address multiple interrelated problems at once” … in today’s 30-second-news-soundbite world it is easier to present an argument in bite-sized chunks.

    Geert Van Den Bossche may well be right. We’ll know in a couple years or so. BUT … right here and now, we know from data that people are dying and being permanently disabled from the vaxx. Focusing on the here and now, when considering the attention span of the majority of the population, is the most effective way to penetrate the “safe and effective vaxx” narrative.

    Also, Geert has aligned himself with the “outsiders.” He muddies the outsider water when he pushes back on minor outsider elements because this gives the opposition maneuvering space for counter arguments against ALL of the outsiders.

    Is Geert right? Probably. But even us TAE people aren’t sure. If we aren’t even sure, to use the ADE argument as a way to convince those who are “all-in on the vaxx” to change their minds will be next to impossible.

    Perhaps time for a tub soak, dear madam! 😉

    #80213
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @madam: “The idea that there is ONE true explanation/motivation seems to me more the product of our desire for simply understood explanation rather than deal provisionally with emergent phenomena from a sea f chaos …”

    I won’t argue with that. I tend toward being rational/logical, which tends toward seeking AN answer.

    Perhaps there are more than one answers. Food for thought.

    #80214
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    So the office bitch who harrassed my daughter maybe 3 weeks back for not getting the clotshot, who said, “Don’t cry on my shoulder if you get sick and die” is, of course, covid-positive. I worked hard to convince daughter to resist. Vndication is sweet, says daughter.

    #80215
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ upstatenyer

    “Also, Geert has aligned himself with the “outsiders.” He muddies the outsider water when he pushes back on minor outsider elements because this gives the opposition maneuvering space for counter arguments against ALL of the outsiders.”

    Bossche IS an outsider. He is being true to himself. That’s what it takes to even approach this thing called democracy: being true to yourself rather than some narrative. Sorry if he doesn’t fit your Official Anti-Official Narrative Narrative. Perhaps the man will prove to be a mere quack or charlatan. Who knows? But for now, he seems earnest, and btw, far more informed about viral pandemia than you or I, so I applaud him for sticking to his guns.

    Correct me if I’m wrong here: he isn’t saying that the spike/clot issue is false, is he?

    And yes, I’m off to the sauna and the pool. Our parrot bit me. Can’t be too nice to our little Booger. Her devious little mind doesn’t seem able to handle it.

    #80216
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Me, I’m happy to learn that the ADE thing isn’t likely to manifest for at least another year. TIme to make more nice things happen before darkness gets serious.

    Me, I’m guessing Putin knows what he’s doing pushing for major vaccination with a standard vaccine ast the risk of negative political fallout. It certainly isn’t because he wants to turn Russia into a totalitarian communist state: he’s been there. done that, didn’t like it. And it isn’t because he’s stupid. And I suspect people in Russia think thrice before lying to him about anything, but especially things that could kill millions while turning him from Most Popular President to Ivan the Terrible in the public mind. So I doubt he’s getting bad advice.

    #80217
    oxymoron
    Participant

    glacons31 – good point about focusing on what is happening now in adverse reactions. Mucho distracto for the experts to focus heavily on other areas outside this timeframe

    #80218
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    fwiw, I recall a few months back when I disapproved of how someone took on the covid narrative. For some reason I can only ascribe to muddle-headed grumpiness, I took Doc Robinson to task for his statistical approach. I had some kind of point but not enough for me to even remember it now, so it warn’t much of a point.

    I was wrong. I think I apologized before, and I’ve praised him since, but I want to acknowledge that I was being a cunt. Not because I want him to acknowledge my apology. It’s not about my silly ego. I do so because I think it’s really important to mark such blunders as such: dumbass gripey blunders.

    #80219
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Actually let the experts do what experts do – specialise in their area. It’s the broader focus and attention that is the issue. Questioning from any direction is good but not if it is deliberately obstructive.

    #80220
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @oxy: “Questioning from any direction is good but not if it is deliberately obstructive.”

    That’s what I was trying to say. Oxy did it way better. 🙂

    #80221
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Another point to consider as we chastize renegades like VDBossche: the overwhelming problem with things covidian is that the vast bulk of experts and “experts” AGREE with each other. They walk in near lock-step. Now you criticize the renegades for not walking in lock-step together. I have yet to see a football touchdown, or a home run, or a 3-point swish shot, scored by the entiure team at once. SOmeone had to leave the main fray and make that run for it.

    Last week it was Denninger who was taken to task for being angry in the manner he apparently prefers and perhaps help pay his bills and reach a larger audience.

    Reminds me of how Jesus wasn’t good enough for the Sanhedrin. To this day, the Jews wonder Where is the Messiah? Which reminds me of an old Yiddish joke: at a Catskills resort in the 50s, two older matrons are griping about the food.

    “The food is here is lousy,” says one.

    “And such small portions!” said the other.

    #80222
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Ten-four, madamski.
    No offense was taken.

    #80223
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    Just harvested a lovely crop of garlic (about 1200). Better half came down with gout so I did the harvest myself – he owes me one but I sure don’t envy him the gout experience. We had a decent harvest of sour cherries whichI pitted and froze – will come in handy for the gout. We only got about half the usual amount of black raspberries (25 pounds versus over 50) due to a fungal disease lurking in my soil. I undertook to increase the potassium and sulphur in the soil by chopping and dropping comfrey and prolific perennial onions growing in my orchard. This will not kill the soil-dwelling fungus – just enhance the immune response of my raspberry plants, maybe like zinc for humans!
    In my mixed plantings between the fruiting plants, it is always a chore to stay ahead of the weeds which can quickly overtake everything else – thistles abound along with wild carrot, milkweed, goldenrod and invasive like purple loose strife. I leave some of these types of plants but seriously they are so hardy that they quickly overwhelm. We also have ticks to contend with, so we keep grass alleys, cut short and mixed with clover, to reduce tick risks. As much as I love a great mix of plants, I spend significant manual effort keeping the weeds from totally dominating. From a strictly labour perspective, while mowing is work for sure, having at least some grass monoculture allows for mechanized management that we simply could not do without.

    #80224
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ Doc R

    “Ten-four, madamski.
    No offense was taken.”

    Well, I had little if any reason to complain. Sometimes an old broad needs to rely less on instinct and more on cold logic.

    ^&*

    @ sumac.carol

    I envy you your farm and plant/ecology knowledge.

    A little grass is fine. A lot is great if one is making hay, I suppose.

    These days, it’s virtually impossible to do significant agriculture without, um, prosthetics, because the entire ecology across the planet is wacko. One has to have very large acreage with big buffer zones to wotk with nature in the manner to which it is accustomed.

    #80225
    russellnblbs
    Participant

    If one does a study of the history of vaccines and Western medicine in general, one will quickly realise that what is going on is merely par the course. The reason for the over the top clot shot push is probably not depopulation or sterilising, although it could be, but merely to wipe out the control group. Vaccines have always been pushed as hard as possible for this reason because then any side effects can be deflected as everyone is suffering from them. There has never been serious double blind studies on the actual overall health benefit of most childhood vaccines, especially regarding autoimmune disorders like eczema and asthma because it is deemed unethical. Even the polio shot, heralded as the breakthrough child saviour, was prone to data fudging and very bad side effects, as well as a redefinition of what polio is. In Western countries, the overall chronic health of children is much worse now than it was in the sixties, and although there is probably a myriad of reasons for this, science has always refused to do serious long term study of the role of vaccines. If you jab every child, then you deflect blame. Sure the they are acutely much safer than these covid shots and have played a role in reducing the rate of childhood disease, but on a long term chronic evel it is unknown how dangerous they are. The autism thing is probably a poisoning the well deflection, whereas the insane rise in asthma, eczema and allergies deserves investigation.

    Plus it is impossible to predict the non linear results of meddling with complex systems. Like the virus itself, humans will mutate and respond to any attempt to kill or sterilise them. Their will be some who are immune to the jabs effects and may even become hyper fertile or hyper immune. It’s impossible to know so implementing a die off or sterilisation via jab is dumb, but they are dumb so who knows.

    #80226
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Young man tells his coronapansy family he’s not getting vaxxed:

    #80227
    TAE Summary
    Participant

    * Second Wind

    * Covid and Vaxx
    – VDB sees enormous potential for death
    – mRNA fills your tank with starter fluid
    – Telecommuting increases provincialism
    – Masks have atrophied people’s phony muscle
    – Reddit/r/CovidVaccinated – NSFW(Not Suitable For Witless)
    – To the well organized mind Covid is just the next great adventure
    – Covid is about making money
    – NIH study shows fetal masks could protect the unborn from mother’s Covid
    – I will gladly risk ADE on Tuesday for a blood clot today

    * Bits and Pieces
    – Nothing is sacred
    – Stock market down – BTFD(Bet The Farm Dipshit)
    – Answers should be a simple as possible but no simpler

    * International News
    – Fires in Siberia today are clearing land for farmland tomorrow
    – Two dams burst in China
    – Thailand is the new Covid hotspot
    – Sputnik won’t cause ADE; Sputnik taunts the west a second time
    – Australia to fight Covid through mass cryogenics

    * Pfizer jabbees exhibiting diminished mental capacity if that is possible

    * Bad weather bad for leaders
    – Mowing wet grass takes longer

    * Once the trust is gone it never comes back

    * Etymology of “Expert”
    Ex=Has been
    Spurt=Drip under pressure

    * Fauci McMonkey McBean to offer trip through star-off machine for the vaccinated for only three dollars eaches

    * Things as they are : * Second Wind

    * Covid and Vaxx
    – VDB sees enormous potential for death
    – mRNA fills your tank with starter fluid
    – Telecommuting increases provincialism
    – Masks have atrophied people’s phony muscle
    – Reddit/r/CovidVaccinated – NSFW(Not Suitable For Witless)
    – To the well organized mind Covid is just the next great adventure
    – Covid is about making money
    – NIH study shows fetal masks could protect the unborn from mother’s Covid
    – I will gladly risk ADE on Tuesday for a blood clot today

    * Bits and Pieces
    – Nothing is sacred
    – Stock market down – BTFD(Bet The Farm Dipshit)
    – Answers should be a simple as possible but no simpler

    * International News
    – Fires in Siberia today are clearing land for farmland tomorrow
    – Two dams burst in China
    – Thailand is the new Covid hotspot
    – Sputnik won’t cause ADE; Sputnik taunts the west a second time
    – Australia to fight Covid through mass cryogenics

    * Pfizer jabbees exhibiting diminished mental capacity if that is possible

    * Bad weather bad for leaders
    – Mowing wet grass takes longer

    * Once the trust is gone it never comes back

    * Etymology of “Expert”
    Ex=Has been
    Spurt=Drip under pressure

    * Fauci McMonkey McBean to offer trip through star-off machine for the vaccinated for only three dollars eaches

    * Things as they are : https://youtu.be/HWZG–3BIzc?t=4737

    #80228
    Antidote
    Participant

    Interesting thread from a commenter on a ZH article:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/user/334709

    #80229
    TAE Summary
    Participant

    * Things as the are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWZG–3BIzc&t=4764s
    Previous link didn’t work
    Also sorry for the double paste

    #80230
    oxymoron
    Participant
    #80231
    WES
    Participant

    UpstateNYer & Madamski:

    When I was in Siberia, admittedly southern Siberia, the locals started many of their plants indoors by windows. (Yes, many of the wooden houses suffered badly from the ground heaving. It was not unusual to notice on corner of the house 2 feet higher or lower than another house corner.)

    Then as spring came and the ground thawed, they started putting their early plants into cold frames. (Nobody had green houses.) These wooden cold frames had removable tops made of either glass or plastic. I noticed that they also kept buckets of water inside the old frames to ward off mild frost. If it was to be a hard frost, then they either brought many plants back inside or put blankets over the cold frame tops.

    If it was a nice sunny day, they would remove the cold frame tops to let the plants harden and not get over heated. During cool cloudy days, or windy days, the cold frame tops stayed on. As you can imagine, this required a lot of effort but these people depended on these small but very productive gardens for their food. The reality was the garden remained their entire focus through out the short summer.

    Here in Toronto, my parents started many plants indoors before transferring them to a small cold frame with a southern exposure. They also used buckets of water and blankets to protect against late spring frosts. So they faced the same problems UpstateNYer faced.

    When my Father was growing up in Saskatchewan, they started tomato plants indoors beside south facing windows, before transferring to cold frames. However the growing season in Saskatchewan is too short to grow tomatoes, so they would allow only one tomato to form on each plant. They also heavily pruned the leaves forcing the tomato plant to focus all of it’s energy on just the one fruit. Often they had to pick many tomatoes green to avoid an early fall frost. Then they would ripen the green tomatoes on the window sill.

    Up in northern Labrador some folks would put up a wind fence around their garden and try and grow southern crops like corn! The tallest corn I ever saw reached about a foot high! Of course they never succeeded in growing anything! It was just the “trying” that counted! The futile garden made for a great conversation piece with friends and neighbors!

    In northern Labrador, my parents grew 2 things in their miniature garden, green mint, and tiny radishes! Mom would make reen mint jelly. Wild daisies and pansie were the only two flowers they grew!

    #80232
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “video unavailable”

    U cracka me op.

    &*(

    So the woman who harrassed my daughter for not being vakzinated got her case of covid from a family gathering of about 50 people.

    No, she hasn’t changed her tune about the vakz doing zip to prevent contagion. It’s all the fault, she says angrily,of one cousin who wasn’t vakzed and wouldn’t mask. Yes, she knows the vakz doesn’t stop transmission but only reduces severity of symptoms; she blames this on the delta variant… even though she knows that the vakz doesn’t prevent transmission. So, apparently, it’s because he wasn’t masked.

    She is a bright woman, this cranky bitch, but can’t allow herself to see that her circular logic is biting her in her tail. That would mean a) she is wrong, and b) her trusted authorities are lying.

    As the bodies mount, people like her will at some point realize they’ve been had. Long before that, the non-covid compliant like us will have given them what for. They will have nowhere to turn their anger but onto each other and those formerly trusted authorities.

    Heads will asplode and maybe heads will roll.

    ^&*

    @ russellnblbs

    Wonderful clear historical context. We owe you. (Don’t try and collect. 😉 )

    I tried pronouncing your e-handle: wubba wubba

    ^&*

    Weird-ass liars making fun of weird-ass liars:

    You’re a poopoo doodoo cacahead!

    Well, it beats feeding Xtians to the lions and watching gladiators maul each other, I suppose. Progress!

    #80233
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    ‘No, she hasn’t changed her tune about the vakz doing zip to prevent contagion.’

    THat;s confusing. I mean that she still denies that the vakz are at best a waste of time.

    #80234
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    ‘Yes, she knows the vakz doesn’t stop transmission but only reduces severity of symptoms; she blames this on the delta variant…’

    She blames her getting covid on the confusing concept that it’s because of the delta variant even though she KNOWS the vakz doesn’t stop transmission.

    It’s stricly a blame game based on the discomfort of her cognitive dissonance. Can’t write clear this evening.

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