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CDC: Delta Variant Spreads As Easily As Chickenpox, Causes More Severe Infection (CNN)
CDC Expected To Announce Friday That Vaccines Don’t Work on Delta Variant (CTH)
Health Officials Less Confident About Covid Vaccine Due To Delta Variant (JTN)
Gottlieb: Delta Surge May Be Reversing In Hot Spots (ZH)
Antibody Evolution after SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination (bioRxiv)
Why Is the FDA Attacking a Safe, Effective Drug? (WSJ)
US Capitol Police Walk Back Order To Arrest Those Without A Mask (JTN)
Biden Mandates All Federal Workers Must Be Vaccinated… Except Postal Workers (ZH)
CDC To Drop ‘Gold Standard’ PCR Test (JTN)
German Court Tells Facebook To Reinstate Deleted Posts (Pol.eu)

 

 

Things are shifting, and everyone’s busy saving their faulty faces. It’s about time to decree that only the vaccinated need to wear masks, but they’re not quite there yet.

 

 

Those tests? Whenever you feel like it, Pfizer. No hurry.

 

 

FDA approval in September? That’s 2024, right?!

 

 

 

 

Fleming vax or not risk reduction 0.8-1.25%

 

 

If true, it would be game changing (a first?!). A virus that becomes more transmissible and more lethal at the same time. For now, don’t buy it.

As for those MSNBC interviews, that’s where most people get “informed”. Tragic.

CDC: Delta Variant Spreads As Easily As Chickenpox, Causes More Severe Infection (CNN)

The Delta coronavirus variant surging across the United States appears to cause more severe illness and spread as easily as chickenpox, according to an internal document from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The document — a slide presentation — outlines unpublished data that shows fully vaccinated people might spread the Delta variant at the same rate as unvaccinated people. CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky confirmed the authenticity of the document, which was first reported by The Washington Post. “I think people need to understand that we’re not crying wolf here. This is serious,” she told CNN. “It’s one of the most transmissible viruses we know about. Measles, chickenpox, this — they’re all up there.”

The CDC is scheduled to publish data Friday that will back Walensky’s controversial decision to change guidance for fully vaccinated people. She said Tuesday the CDC was recommending that even fully vaccinated people wear masks indoors in places where transmission of the virus is sustained or high.[..]The presentation also cites three reports that indicate the Delta variant — originally known as B.1.617.2 — might cause more severe disease. The CDC, the document advises, should “acknowledge the war has changed.” It recommends vaccine mandates and universal mask requirements. The virus is once against surging across the US — especially in areas where fewer people are vaccinated. The US averaged more than 61,300 new daily cases over the last week — an average that’s generally risen since the country hit a 2021 low of 11,299 daily cases on June 22, according to Johns Hopkins University data. “The number of cases we have now is higher than any number we had on any given day last summer,” Walensky told CNN.

WaPo

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Nothing to do with the very very effective vaccines of course.

CDC Expected To Announce Friday That Vaccines Don’t Work on Delta Variant (CTH)

The White House would never credit Donald Trump with the vaccine rollout unless there was something negative about the vaccine that is going to hit the newswires; that is a no-brainer. That baseline is why CTH said two months ago to watch for the moment when the White House credits Trump with the vaccine, because that’s the moment when: (1) the vaccine was going to be identified as dangerous; and/or (2) reports would show the vaccine did not work. Today the White House credited President Trump with the vaccine:

….And right on cue, the late-evening reporting indicates that tomorrow the CDC will announce the vaccine doesn’t work (against the Delta variant). Hence, the need for masks, social distancing and/or possibly lockdowns 2.0. Reminder, when the Intelligence Branch needs to get the public relations engaged, they use the New York Times. [New York Times] – […] New research showed that vaccinated people infected with the Delta variant carry tremendous amounts of the virus in the nose and throat, she said in an email responding to questions from The New York Times. The finding contradicts what scientists had observed in vaccinated people infected with previous versions of the virus, who mostly seemed incapable of infecting others. That conclusion dealt Americans a heavy blow: People with so-called breakthrough infections — cases that occur despite full vaccination — of the Delta variant may be just as contagious as unvaccinated people, even if they have no symptoms.”

Bottom line of this narrative shift… vaccinations don’t work. Everything goes back to square one. Blame Trump, not us. There is also data showing that COVID hospitalizations offer no distinction between vaccinated and unvaccinated; and in the example of LA county, the percentage of vaccinated people hospitalized with COVID is identical to the percentage of vaccinated people in the general population. [70% of population vaccinated, 70% of COVID hospitalization patients are vaccinated.] The vaccine offers no benefit from the standing of hospitalization… or so it appears.

In San Francisco, 77% of the population is vaccinated and 83% of the COVID hospitalizations at University of California SF Hospital are previously vaccinated [link]. Again, highlighting the vaccine offers no benefit from the standpoint of hospitalization. Additionally, there’s data from a recent Pfizer study where 44,000 patients were studied. 22,000 were given the vaccine, and 22,000 received the placebo. The results amid both groups was almost identical.

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She keeps at it still: “..in rare occasions, some vaccinated people infected with the Delta variant after vaccination may be contagious..”

What will the message be tomorrow?

Health Officials Less Confident About Covid Vaccine Due To Delta Variant (JTN)

Public health confidence in the COVID-19 vaccine appears to be waning as officials warn of enhanced danger — even for vaccinated individuals — from the “Delta variant” of the SARS-Cov-2 virus. For most of the past year officials have claimed that vaccinations are the only viable path back to normalcy and away from lockdowns and other aggressive mitigation measures. “Look at the folks in your community who have gotten vaccinated and are getting back to living their lives — their full lives,” President Joe Biden said at a May press conference, arguing that the vaccine was “going to help them and their loved ones be safe, get our businesses open again, and get us back to normal.”

The rollout of the vaccines starting last year and continuing throughout the spring and summer of this year has been hailed as the driving force behind the reopening of the economy and the ending of masking mandates and similar restrictions. Yet over the past week the tone from public officials has grown increasingly grim, with leaders now appearing to doubt that the vaccine is sufficient to forestall COVID transmission and potential catastrophe due to the rise of the Delta variant. A marked shift was seen this week from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which reversed its earlier masking guidance and claimed that fully vaccinated individuals should wear masks indoors in areas with high COVID transmission.

The Delta variant “behaves uniquely differently from past strains of the virus that cause COVID-19,” CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said at a press conference this week. “Information on the Delta variant from several states and other countries indicate that in rare occasions, some vaccinated people infected with the Delta variant after vaccination may be contagious and spread the virus to others,” she claimed. “This new science is worrisome and unfortunately warrants an update to our recommendations.” White House coronavirus expert Dr. Anthony Fauci signaled a similar shift during an interview with NPR when he called the Delta variant “a different virus.” The Delta variant “is much more capable of transmitting from people to people,” Fauci claimed, stating that when even fully vaccinated people contract the virus “they are capable of transmitting the infection to someone else.”

The shift from strong confidence in the vaccine to the masking of fully vaccinated individuals comes after several weeks of steadily rising COVID-19 cases throughout the United States. Experts have feared that the Delta variant could cause a surge in hospitalizations and deaths, leading to catastrophic scenarios of the kinds hypothesized at the outset of the pandemic last year.

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But wait, wasn’t it as contagious as ebola?

Gottlieb: Delta Surge May Be Reversing In Hot Spots (ZH)

While hospitalizations and deaths are clearly higher in areas where vaccination rates are lower, rates are still well below their levels from just a few months ago. And although Dr. Anthony Fauci would have you believe that Delta might cause the end of the world as we know it, his isn’t the only view on the matter. Dr. Scott Gottlieb, a former director of the FDA, believes delta will peak within the next two to three weeks. And after breaking the data down to the regional level, Bloomberg has apparently spotted some trends that suggest as Delta’s global conquest has been characterized by “hyperspeed spikes in infections that eased dramatically after about two months.”

s The first US outbreaks that caught officials’ eye were in Missouri and Arkansas, and they both started in earnest around the end of May, per BBG. They noted that the rest of the country will be keeping a close eye on both states (along with a handful of others, including California). The rest of the US will be watching those states closely as infections spread. The cases are prompting authorities to reconsider masking and other public-health measures, but many state and local governments are doing so gingerly and only after outbreaks are well underway. In Florida’s Miami-Dade County, Mayor Daniella Levine Cava said Wednesday that she would require masks again at indoor county facilities such as libraries.

Bloomberg also cited the following tweet from Dr. Gottlieb where he explained how Rt, a virus’s effective reproductive number, plays into forecasts of the virus’s spread. The logic behind it is pretty simple: If Rt falls below 1, then the virus’s spread should start to slow. Gottlieb cited data from covidestim, a project with contributors from Yale School of Public Health, Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health and Stanford Medicine, showing the Rt rate in the worst hit states is already trending toward 1. When the numbers did this in the UK, seen as being just a few weeks ahead of the US, cases quickly started falling off.

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The conclusion is simple: “..memory antibodies selected over time by natural infection have greater potency and breadth than antibodies elicited by vaccination.”.

But they still need to package it in jargon.

Antibody Evolution after SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination (bioRxiv)

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection produces B-cell responses that continue to evolve for at least one year. During that time, memory B cells express increasingly broad and potent antibodies that are resistant to mutations found in variants of concern. As a result, vaccination of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) convalescent individuals with currently available mRNA vaccines produces high levels of plasma neutralizing activity against all variants tested. Here, we examine memory B cell evolution 5 months after vaccination with either Moderna (mRNA-1273) or Pfizer-BioNTech (BNT162b2) mRNA vaccines in a cohort of SARS-CoV-2 naive individuals.


Between prime and boost, memory B cells produce antibodies that evolve increased neutralizing activity, but there is no further increase in potency or breadth thereafter. Instead, memory B cells that emerge 5 months after vaccination of naive individuals express antibodies that are equivalent to those that dominate the initial response. We conclude that memory antibodies selected over time by natural infection have greater potency and breadth than antibodies elicited by vaccination. These results suggest that boosting vaccinated individuals with currently available mRNA vaccines would produce a quantitative increase in plasma neutralizing activity but not the qualitative advantage against variants obtained by vaccinating convalescent individuals.

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The WSJ goes ivermectin. Next up NYT, then CNN?

Why Is the FDA Attacking a Safe, Effective Drug? (WSJ)

The Food and Drug Administration claims to follow the science. So why is it attacking ivermectin, a medication it certified in 1996? Earlier this year the agency put out a special warning that “you should not use ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID-19.” The FDA’s statement included words and phrases such as “serious harm,” “hospitalized,” “dangerous,” “very dangerous,” “seizures,” “coma and even death” and “highly toxic.” Any reader would think the FDA was warning against poison pills. In fact, the drug is FDA-approved as a safe and effective antiparasitic. Ivermectin was developed and marketed by Merck & Co. while one of us (Mr. Hooper) worked there years ago.

William C. Campbell and Satoshi Omura won the 2015 Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine for discovering and developing avermectin, which Mr. Campbell and associates modified to create ivermectin. Ivermectin is on the World Health Organization’s List of Essential Medicines. Merck has donated four billion doses to prevent river blindness and other diseases in Africa and other places where parasites are common. A group of 10 doctors who call themselves the Front Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance have said ivermectin is “one of the safest, low-cost, and widely available drugs in the history of medicine.” Ivermectin fights 21 viruses, including SARS-CoV-2, the cause of Covid-19. A single dose reduced the viral load of SARS-CoV-2 in cells by 99.8% in 24 hours and 99.98% in 48 hours, according to a June 2020 study published in the journal Antiviral Research.

Some 70 clinical trials are evaluating the use of ivermectin for treating Covid-19. The statistically significant evidence suggests that it is safe and works for both treating and preventing the disease. In 115 patients with Covid-19 who received a single dose of ivermectin, none developed pneumonia or cardiovascular complications, while 11.4% of those in the control group did. Fewer ivermectin patients developed respiratory distress (2.6% vs. 15.8%); fewer required oxygen (9.6% vs. 45.9%); fewer required antibiotics (15.7% vs. 60.2%); and fewer entered intensive care (0.1% vs. 8.3%). Ivermectin-treated patients tested negative faster, in four days instead of 15, and stayed in the hospital nine days on average instead of 15. Ivermectin patients experienced 13.3% mortality compared with 24.5% in the control group.

Moreover, the drug can help prevent Covid-19. One 2020 article in Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications looked at what happened after the drug was given to family members of confirmed Covid-19 patients. Less than 8% became infected, versus 58.4% of those untreated.Despite the FDA’s claims, ivermectin is safe at approved doses. Out of four billion doses administered since 1998, there have been only 28 cases of serious neurological adverse events, according to an article published this year in the American Journal of Therapeutics. The same study found that ivermectin has been used safely in pregnant women, children and infants.

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Fiddling with Nancy’s new hobby.

US Capitol Police Walk Back Order To Arrest Those Without A Mask (JTN)

Capitol police Thursday night walked back a memo that ordered officers to deny entry and possibly arrest those who enter the United States House of Representatives who are not wearing masks after mask mandates were reintroduced earlier this week. “Regarding the House mask rule, there is no reason it should ever come to someone being arrested. Anyone who does not follow the rule will be asked to wear a mask or leave the premises. The Department’s requirements for officers to wear masks is for their health and safety,” the USCP said in a statement Thursday night.


On Wednesday, newly appointed Capitol Police Chief Thomas Manger ordered officers to enforce new mask mandates in the House, including denial of entry and even arrest. “If a visitor or staff member fails to wear a mask after a request is made to do so, the visitor or staff shall be denied entry to the House Office Buildings or House-side of the U.S. Capitol,” Manger said Wednesday. “Any person who fails to either comply or leave the premises after being asked to do so would be subject to an arrest for Unlawful Entry.”

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They must be vaccinated so they spread more virus. A Chinese study claims the viral load is 1,000 times higher.

Biden Mandates All Federal Workers Must Be Vaccinated… Except Postal Workers (ZH)

Earlier in the week Biden suggested that those who are yet to be vaccinated are “sowing enormous confusion.” “We have a pandemic because of the unvaccinated, and they’re sowing enormous confusion,” Biden said. “And there’s only one thing we know for sure, if those other 100 million people got vaccinated, we’d be in a very different world. So get vaccinated. If you haven’t, you’re not nearly as smart as I said you were.” And now he has gone to ’11’ on the ‘your body, no choice’ amplifier, saying tonight that he’ll require federal workers to prove they’ve been vaccinated against Covid-19 or wear masks and submit to frequent coronavirus testing. Additionally, the rules will cover millions of federal workers, including the military and on-site contractors.

“What I’m trying to do is keep people safe,” Biden said Thursday at the White House. “If in fact you’re unvaccinated, you present a problem to yourself, to your family and to those with whom you work.” Biden also asked his team to take steps to apply similar standards to all federal contractors and encourage private sector employers to follow the same approach. There’s just one thing… the federal worker mandate does not apply to postal workers? What do postal workers know about the science that Biden doesn’t? We don’t know, but dare we mention it could be related to the 220,000-member strong union’s leaders waiting to be negotiated with. As The Epoch Times’ Isabel van Brugen detailed earlier,

“The American Postal Workers Union (APWU) has said that it opposes mandatory COVID-19 vaccinations, amid reports that the White House is considering so-called vaccine passports as a condition of employment for federal employees. The union, which represents over 220,000 postal workers, released a statement late Wednesday saying that while it will encourage postal workers to get vaccinated against COVID-19, it is “not the role of the federal government to mandate vaccinations for the employees we represent.” “Issues related to vaccinations and testing for COVID-19 in the workplace must be negotiated with the APWU. At this time the APWU opposes the mandating of COVID-19 vaccinations in relation to U.S. postal workers,” the statement said.

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Not a word about the flu.

CDC To Drop ‘Gold Standard’ PCR Test (JTN)

PCR tests, long hailed as the “gold standard” in detecting SARS-Cov-2 cases, will be dropped by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention at the beginning of next year. Polymerase chain reaction tests have been a mainstay of the U.S. and global response to COVID-19 since early in 2020, but health officials have warned the diagnostic tool poses a risk of false-positive results. The test works by amplifying a biological sample through successive cycles until a virus — if it’s present in the assay — can be detected by the testing machine. The CDC announced this month that it would be withdrawing its request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for the emergency use authorization of the test. The agency urged laboratories to “begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test.”

CDC spokeswoman Kristen Nordlund told Just the News that the agency was discontinuing its support for the test “given the availability of commercial options for clinical diagnosis of SARS-CoV-2 infection, including multiplexed … and high-throughput options.” “Although the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus … Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel met an important unmet need when it was developed and deployed and has not demonstrated any performance issues, the demand for this test has declined with the emergence of other higher-throughput and multiplexed assays,” she said via email. Those risks have been acknowledged by multiple prominent public health figures, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, chief medical adviser to President Biden and the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

In a July 2020 interview on an infectious disease podcast, Fauci warned that the sensitive PCR tests might, if allowed to progress through too many amplification cycles, return a “positive” result when it was actually just detecting “dead nucleotides.” The World Health Organization earlier this year warned in a medical product alert that PCR tests carry with them the risk of “false positives” because the test might only be picking up small fragments of the virus via heavy amplification. “[D]isease prevalence alters the predictive value of test results; as disease prevalence decreases, the risk of false positive increases,” the alert stated. “This means that the probability that a person who has a positive result (SARS-CoV-2 detected) is truly infected with SARS-CoV-2 decreases as prevalence decreases, irrespective of the claimed specificity.”

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“We welcome the ruling of the Court, which upholds the principle that platforms like ours are allowed to remove hate speech according to company policies and block the respective user accounts,” said a Facebook spokesperson.

German Court Tells Facebook To Reinstate Deleted Posts (Pol.eu)

Germany’s Federal Court ruled Thursday that Facebook had to reinstate racist comments because it had improperly removed them. In its ruling, the Karlsruhe-based court said that while Facebook had the right to decide what stays on or off the platform, it needs to be more forthcoming with users on how it does so. The court found that the social media company did not inform two users that it had removed their posts. It added that the company should have also informed and given users an opportunity to respond before suspending them from its platform. The decision sets a major precedent for how social media companies police content on their platforms, likely giving a boost to EU lawmakers in Brussels, who are pushing to add further obligations on social media companies.

It also upends a years-long status quo whereby platforms were effectively free to develop and implement content moderation policies on their own, which critics say has resulted in a lack of transparency, information, and potential recourse for the users. The case in question is from 2018, when Facebook removed posts in which two German users attacked migrants because it said the posts violated its policy on hate speech, and then suspended the users’ accounts for several days. The users complained that the posts’ removal was a violation of free speech. The court said while Facebook was entitled to set strict content rules banning hateful speech and to block users, the way it implemented its content moderation policy was not proper.

“Provisions in general terms and conditions are ineffective if they unreasonably disadvantage the contractual partner of the user contrary to the requirements of good faith,” said the court. Facebook will not be allowed to delete the posts again after they are reinstated. “We welcome the ruling of the Court, which upholds the principle that platforms like ours are allowed to remove hate speech according to company policies and block the respective user accounts,” said a Facebook spokesperson.

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    Paul Gauguin Van Gogh painting sunflowers 1888   • CDC: Delta Variant Spreads As Easily As Chickenpox, Causes More Severe Infection (CNN) • CDC E
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle July 30 2021]

    #81432
    Huskynut
    Participant

    I’ve been trying to compile the TAE Summary post from a couple of days back into a table. The perfection of TAE’s (playing the gender pronoun game..) matching the competing narratives was sublime. But after I’d copied/pasted into a table I realise what was needed was a column for “why”.
    Obviously the vast majority of people couldn’t care less, but for those whose mental constructs are amenable to tables, I think it’s a useful construct. Not sure if it’ll post in this format, but trying:
    The Mainstream Narrative The Counter Narrative Why?
    – It is not known where Covid 19 originated but the most likely origin is the transmission from an animal to humans – Covid 19 was most likely created in a lab in China or the US There is no evidence of the interim stages required for a bat virus totransform into Covid
    – Covid 19 has killed 600K people in the US – Covid 19 kills people but far fewer than the official count Covid cases have been inflated by using PCR tests at cycles they produce false results
    – Trump botched the Covid 19 response costing many lives – Almost all officials in government have botched the Covid 19 response, costing many lives The international response has been incredibly uniform, with releasing far too little information(and far to late) for their actions to be challenged. Qualified dissenting scientific voices have been routinely silenced for challenging the government narrative
    – Many deaths were preventable if we’d tested, masked, tracked and locked down better – Most deaths were preventable if we had investigated and deployed early treatments including vitamin D, zinc, hydrochloroquine and ivermectin Evidence for the effectiveness of Hydroxychloroquine was available very early, but since Trump voiced it, the media went into overdrive to disagree. Numerous (safe and effective) treatment have been demonstrated since then and discussion of all have been suppressed. The nb: The Covid “Vaccines” could not be deployed under law if these alternative treatmentswwere admitted to be effective.
    – Vaccines are good and have eradicated polio, measles, whooping cough and other diseases – Vaccines are good and have eradicated polio, measles, whooping cough and other diseases There is no argument here, despite many mainstream vaccine “boosters” pretending counter narrative people “don’t trust vaccines”
    – Vaccines against Covid 19 are safe and effective and have saved many lives with only minor, acceptable adverse reactions – The Covid 19 vaccines however are not actually vaccines but gene therapy and have not been adequately tested. The Covid 19 vaccines have serious side effects including death and other as yet unknown consequences which are not being investigated and are suppressed by the media There have been more deaths from the Covid vaccines in the US this year *tha the total of all deaths from all vaccine in the two decades prior”. Regardless of whether there is justification for deploying the Covid jabs, stating they are “safe” is quite simply a lie by all historical standards
    – There are no effective treatments for Covid 19 besides the vaccines – We need to defeat Covid 19 and the best way to do this is through early outpatient treatment with known, effective drugs and known drug protocols for hospitalized patients See above. There is ample evidence from countries that are using these treatments such as Indonesia, India etc that Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine etc are effective and safe (they’ve been used for decades with negligible and well-understood side effects)
    – Covid is spread by droplets and aerosols from infected people, both symptomatic and asymptomatic, and can be spread through momentary casual contact both indoors and outdoors – Covid 19 is primary spread by aerosols from symptomatic and pre-symptomatic people, mostly in indoor situations with poor ventilation where peoples spend a long time together The latest studies show that previously-vaccinated people who contract Covid (and none of the jabs are even claimed by manufacturers to prevent recipients subsequently catching Covid) sometimes carry a viral load many times that of unvaccinated people, without showing major symptoms. We are actively creating more effective “super-spreaders” with the “vaccinations”, than any were without them. This has *never been a characteristic of any previously approved vaccine
    – Children and young adults are at risk form Covid 19 and can spread the disease and should take the same precautions and measures as adults – Children and young adults are at low risk from Covid 19 and need take fewer precautions and measures but should be treated with drug protocols if infected Because Covid is far more dangerous to elderly people (unlike many previous pandemics such as Spanish flue, which were highly dangerous to young people), the risk from the vaccines is far greater than the risk from Covid
    – We need to do whatever it takes to defeat Covid 19 including frequent testing, mass vaccination, continued locked downs and wearing masks – Masks, distancing and lockdowns are mostly ineffective 20 years of science has previously said that masks are effectively useless for preventing transmission of viruses. Faunci et al said exactly the same at the start of the Covid scare. The subsequent science has not changed. A tiny number of studies have concluded otherwise and are being cherry-picked to support the scare narrative
    – The best information comes from the CDC, FDA and NIH – The best information comes from front line doctors who actually treat patients and experienced researchers who have no financial interest in big pharma The pursuit of science is defined as a controversial pursuit, where nothing can be proved for certain, and everything can (and should) be challenged. When anyone states “the science is settled” they are – by definition – lying. Science, by definition says “our best understand right now is…”
    – The mainstream media warns us of the dangers of Covid 19 but unfortunately many do not take these warnings seriously – The CDC, FDA and NIH are largely compromised because of their association and funding by drug companies The “warnings” have been an almost-constant stream of fear-mongering, presented without context or critique. Many people who aren’t able to research on their own have absolutely no idea there are informed voices with strongly opposing views. These views are almost never represented in the mainstream media. Rememer in 2001 when media voices said without any doubt “Saddam has chemical weapons”? Except he didn’t, as was reluctantly admitted after ~1 million Iraqi’s were killed in the gulf war. That demonstrates the scale of lies that can be successfully told by the media
    – As usual, conspiracy theorists and nut-jobs abound – The mainstream media is also compromised by their association with big pharma and the government The enormous sums of money provided by the Bill Gates Foundation and pharmaceutical companies into scientific research give them enormous leverage. Imagine as a scientist the possibility of never having your work funded again for publicaly speaking out and you can get a sense of how much power these “grants” provide to the grantors
    – Antivaxxers are against all vaccines are now also against the Covid 19 vaccines – The truth about Covid 19 is suppressed and labeled conspiracy theory in order to support the mainstream narrative People who are anti vaccinations (anti-vaxxers) are probably anti-covid vaccines. But to say all anti-Covid vaccine people are anti avxxers is like saying all Europeans are Brexiters. It’s a lie attempting to smear anti-jabbers by portraying them as nutters
    – Antivaxxers have believed phony information disseminated by scurrilous, right wing charlatans – People who insist that the vaccines are the only way to fight Covd 19 have believed lies told to them by the MSM from big pharma and a corrupt medical establishment A slander which is a variation of the above arguments
    – These people cost many lives and are the reason Covid still spreads and mutates – The vaccine narrative has cost many lives and ineffective vaccines are responsible for the continued spread and mutation of Covid 19 The argument that those that oppose vaccines are responsible for the continued spread of Covid is false on several counts: 1. the Covid jabs do not stop people getting or spreading Covid (the manufacturer’s data sheet is very explicit about this). Some governemnts are telling the vaccinated to keep wearing masks which proves this point!
    – They are responsible for continued lock downs and the further decimation of the economy – The fallacious mainstream narrative is responsible for all lock downs and the decimation of the economy Almost every piece of information from the mainstream experts, from the initial modelling (incredibly inaccurate and overblown) to the recommended responses has been wrong. In any other scientific field, based on their record of predictions, the scientists would be discredited and ashamed. But the politicians have been covering for them, since their careers are also at risk. Look with critical eyes, and it’s been junk “science” and “advice” from beginning till now. Repeating the same actions and expecting different results is commonly understood as madnees
    – They are selfish, evil and anti-science – The people who push the mainstream narrative are evil and anti-science; The people who believe this narrative are naive, dogmatic and anti-science It’s a nasty, rude and sometimes extreme shock to realise that those we’ve trusted in good faith for their expertise to keep us safe are in fact incompetent. But ask yourself – what is worse? To realise halfway up Erebus that your guides are poorly advised and equiped and turning back? Or to have been told that, but to follow them to your death because you can’t take responsibility for asking the hard questions before going any further?
    – The Covid 19 response is all about trying to get us back to normal as quickly as possible – The Covid 19 response is all about money, power and control
    – All people are at risk for Covid and should take the same precautions if for no other reason than out of solidarity – Old people and those with co-morbidities like diabetes are at greater risk for Covid and should take greater precautions and be afforded extra protections Covid primarily affects the elderly. To acknowledge that is not to say we shoukd abondon them to them to death. Its the opposite! Instead if all this idiotic protection around people at little risk, lets spend the time and money protecting those at real risk. In NZ and several other countries there’s been an uttlerly stupid idea that we can eliminate Covid – mabe we can, but the cost to all NZ citizens are astronomical – it is one if the more ridiculous ideas in modern times, and countries such as Singapore who previously emraced it are now abandoning it
    – Long Covid is real and the best protection is to get vaccinated which diminishes Covid symptoms – Long Covid is real and is best prevented by prophylactic, outpatient or in hospital treatment with recommended drug protocols

    #81433
    Huskynut
    Participant

    OK.. that’s a fail. Any suggestions how a table can be embedded or attached to a WordPress post?

    #81434
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Faucci saying ‘we need to protect the children’ is freaky. It’s psychotic. He at best has no belief in innate health or the bodies’ own ability to fit in the puzzle of the world. At worst he will be remembered as a mass murderer – at the very least for Ivermectin suppression.
    It is a crazy world. If we get lockdown 6.0 I will go hard on the mushrooms.

    #81435
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Huskynut– I believe attachments are limited to 512kb, which isn’t much. Might be best saving it as a jpeg image and embedding.Maybe it can be embiggened, or link it to a bigger version somewhere else.

    #81436
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “CDC: Delta Variant Spreads As Easily As Chickenpox, Causes More Severe Infection (CNN)”

    Um, CDC, that’s not what your own data says. Are you illiterate? Or just really, really stupid? “I assure you, I am NOT high.” — W. in South Park.

    ““I think people need to understand that we’re not crying wolf here. This is serious,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky told CNN. “It’s one of the most transmissible viruses we know about. Measles, chickenpox, this — they’re all up there.”

    Yes, that’s why everyone has already been exposed and have natural immunity. I mean, unless it’s NOT transmissible. Pick one.

    CDC Expected To Announce Friday That Vaccines Don’t Work on Delta Variant (CTH)”

    CDC announces, “Vaccines don’t work.” So you MUST get one anyway. Obviously.

    By the way, “Crying wolf?” You mean like crying on national TV for a spike that didn’t materialize at all, ever? That kind of crying wolf? Credibility = 0. Gone in 60 Seconds.

    And they really had to pick “yellow” for their vaccine badges and bands? Really? No other color? Okey-dokey.

    “US Capitol Police Walk Back Order to Arrest those without a Mask (JTN)”

    Hey, don’t they need to pass a law before arresting people? Or is that too 15th century? …As I’ve said since day one of their “mandates” and “martial law.”

    BTW, that’s what the courts said about Eviction Moratoriums. They’re illegal, and not ONLY because the CDC is not the government. Even if Congress themselves passed it, it would still be illegal.

    “Biden Mandates All Federal Workers Must Be Vaccinated… Except Postal Workers (ZH)”

    Just the ones that go door to door and touch everything. Got it. That was just one example of my saying “welp, everybody’s going to get it,” in January 2020, 18 months ago. The other was if you like “groceries” and “eating.”

    “German Court Tells Facebook To Reinstate Deleted Posts (Pol.eu)”

    If they’re either a monopoly OR violated people’s civil rights, shouldn’t there be a consequence? One is breaking them up, the other is the sort of crippling civil suit that bankrupts them. Restoring posts that are 5 years old by the time the court acts is not a deterrent, it’s a help.

    Yesterday’s offered link added:

    “Chris Martenson and Adam Taggart have been converging on for years, They said that the current conventional assumption, that the next 20 years would be a somewhat straight-forward linear extrapolation of the previous 20, was wrong. They didn’t know what the catalyst would be, nor did any like-minded commentators such as Charles Hugh Smith, James Kunstler, John Michael Greer, or even myself, when I intuited in Unicorn Winter that “Ground Hog Day was coming”.

    This is about Gibson and “The Jackpot” in his novel where people push between parallel universes. “’The Jackpot’ is where we arrive when we run out of road to kick the can.”

    Welcome to The Jackpot

    That was easy to see for more reasons than I can count, but the “4th Turning” is one of them. Actually it’s been frustratingly NOT diverting from a straight-line Business-as-usual. Like when will anything change around here?

    #81437
    absolute galore
    Participant

    “We have a pandemic because of the unvaccinated, and they’re sowing enormous confusion,” Biden said. “And there’s only one thing we know for sure, if those other 100 million people got vaccinated, we’d be in a very different world. So get vaccinated. If you haven’t, you’re not nearly as smart as I said you were.” “Joe Biden”

    I don’t care how senile he is, this is absolutely disgusting. It’s a lie on so many levels. And it basically is throwing gasoline on the growing movement to ostracize and punish people who choose not to be vaccinated.

    “one thing we know for sure, if those other 100 million people got vaccinated, we’d be in a very different world” No. One thing we know for sure is everyone in your administration is lying through their teeth. They are bald-faced liars lying about their own data sets. Not even manipulating out of context, just making shit up.

    1. Evidence is mounting that the vaccinated have as much or more viral load as the unvaccinated. And they cannot blame us for the Delta, that came from India.

    2. Most of the world population has not been vaccinated. Not everybody lives in San Francisco and New York City. The only thing vaccinating the rest of the U.S. population will do is give Big Pharma the entire citizenry to sell booster shots to every year from now on.

    Everyone in the Biden Admin is in the service of Big Pharma. Everyone is trying to protect themselves from the massive fucking mess they have created beginning with Day One and the Fauci emails we are not allowed to redacted. But there is no free press (other than Tucker Carlson) to bring any of this malfeasance to the light of day. They will continue to blame the unvaxxed for this latest surge. It is totally what Ivan Illich predicted, the medical establishment having long passed his “second watershed” moment, it exists only to perpetuate itself.

    And also as he said, as the crises mount, the technocracy must exert ever more control over citizens. These people will do anything and everything to absolve themselves, so I am skeptical of any sort of reckoning any time soon. Some other disaster will roll out to change the subject if things get too unmanageable. What. A.Freaking. Poop. Show.

    #81438
    Oroboros
    Participant

    “CDC To Drop ‘Gold Standard’ PCR Test (JTN) ”

    Reiner Fuellmich’s entire legal case pivots around the bogus PCR test.

    #1 He says that without ‘cases’ the ‘Global Health Emergency’ due to the SARS-CoV-2 ‘virus’ could NOT have been declared.

    #2 And without the ‘Global Health Emergency’ there was no authority for lockdowns or masks or shutting down the main street economy.

    #3 And without the ‘Global Health Emergency’ the Emergency Authorization would not have been issued for the ‘vaccines’.

    That straight forward, 1 2 3

    So why is this crap still standing?

    Why is this Plandemic still the poster child of the Big Lie?

    Große Lüge

    The German expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, to describe the use of a lie so “colossal” that no one would believe that someone “could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.”

    “Hitler claimed the technique was used by Jews to blame Germany’s loss in World War I on German general Erich Ludendorff, who was a prominent nationalist political leader in the Weimar Republic. Historian Jeffrey Herf says the Nazis used the idea of the original big lie to turn sentiment against Jews and bring about the Holocaust….”

    For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
    ~ Newton’s Third Law

    The Big Lie Plandemic is going to balance out one way or another.

    ~ What goes around comes around ~

    #81439
    Oroboros
    Participant

    People living a giant grotesque Lie day after day after day will have their Souls rot.

    #81440
    democritus
    Participant

    If the vaccines don’t work, then what’s happening in the UK?

    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

    Just the summer, perhaps?

    #81441
    those darned kids
    Participant

    Are you tired of feeling like your arm has been ripped off by a chimpanzee?

    Are you tired of feeling the ice hot push into your already aching shoulder?

    Well, leave those booster troubles behind!

    CDCPfizer, your trusted brand for all things Corona, is proud to introduce new “Mask Pockets Plus™*”

    Imagine, 8 science approved layers of ultra-soft organic Napa Valley Cotton woven together with our time release KrystalKnight PowerPlus Vaxxydrops™, giving you the proven protection you’ve come to love from CDCPfizer AND luxurious comfort.

    Oh, and did we mention how stylish they are?

    Take it from Uncle Tony: “Mask Pockets Plus are your best answer for protecting against all things Corona, even the dreaded Walrus and Narwal 7 variants.”

    *with aloe!

    #81442
    a kullervo
    Participant

    Carefully crafted plan or paroxysmal collective madness* – does it matter?
    The real goalposts are unbudgeable, inexorable and were fixed from day one.
    Pain and pleasure are transient, death the only certainty.
    People clinging to the elusive while acting as if the definite doesn’t exist remains an enigma.

    * Unfortunately, madness has become omnipresent on both aisles of the debate, as one can clearly see by the rampant obsession amongst the TAE commentariat.

    #81443
    those darned kids
    Participant

    If the vaccines work, then what’s happening in India?

    [worldometer link to india stats]

    Just ivermectin, perhaps?

    #81444
    a kullervo
    Participant

    I get it: obsession is good for the business (as usual.)

    #81445
    absolute galore
    Participant

    “The irony is it’s not the dumb rubes in Missouri who don’t understand the nature of this disease,” Gregg Keller, a longtime Republican consultant in Missouri. “Missourians understand this far better than these supposed medical experts we’ve been giving tens of millions of dollars every year.”

    Party Hardy in MO

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/missouri-covid-cases.html

    #81446
    zerosum
    Participant

    TAE does it again – a great selection of opinion and facts

    Parallel universes

    the vaccine doesn’t work (against the Delta variant)

    ancient battle continues – survival of immune system – natural immunity

    the science has changed

    fight the “hot spots”

    the pandemic is over

    Ivermectin works

    https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/06000/review_of_the_emerging_evidence_demonstrating_the.4.aspx
    American Journal of Therapeutics: May/June 2021 – Volume 28 – Issue 3 – p e299-e318
    doi: 10.1097/MJT.0000000000001377

    Conclusion:
    Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified. The same study found that ivermectin has been used safely in pregnant women, children and infants.

    ——–

    #81447
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “If true, it would be game changing (a first?!). A virus that becomes more transmissible and more lethal at the same time. For now, don’t buy it.”

    This looks like what Van Den Bossche describes as a likely outcome of das jab: variants both more infectious and virulent.

    “KrystalKnight PowerPlus Vaxxydrops™”

    🙂

    #81448
    oxymoron
    Participant

    those darned kids – do they sell the entire range of skin tones? I wan’t the pine mist one if it is a sale item. Oh and the happy-face print in Democrat colours would be nice too.

    #81449
    zerosum
    Participant

    The Big Lies – Free

    Covid Testings
    Covid Vaccines
    Covid hospitalizations

    Back to normal

    #81450
    glacons31
    Participant

    What a bunch of lying fear-mongering vaccine witchdoctors. Every one of them.

    By the way, here’s the new variants of concern report out of the uk (technical briefing 19).

    On table 5, we can assess the case fatality rate for Delta. If you’re under 50, it is EXACTLY the same whether you are vaccinated or not: 0.03% of cases result in death.

    Proportion of vaccinated vs non-vaccinated in cases counts is roughly equivalent to the proportion of the population vaccinated or not vaccinated. The proportion of fully vaccinated seems under represented in the data which would go be either due to vaccine efficiency, or alternatively the 11% of cases which are not linked to a vaccine status could simply be fully vaccinated individuals.

    #81451
    glacons31
    Participant
    #81452
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    @democritus: The Delta Variant is a lot less deadly, despite all the scare-mongering going around about it.

    #81453
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male

    The US government nazi like experiment ran from 1932 to 1972

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study

    Here is a former Marine speaking to the Bedpan Biden demand for total vaccination.

    This Man Is Not Running Anywhere . . . He Is Ready For Mandatory “Vaccines”

    https://www.brighteon.com/a5c32117-7c8f-420c-95b0-338cfc50abda

    #81454
    those darned kids
    Participant

    in response to “absolute galore”:

    “Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before,” Bokonon tells us. “He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way.”

    #81455
    chooch
    Participant

    We are all asymptomatic carriers now. I was beginning to miss being the only maskless individual in my local Kroger taking on the mask bullies.

    The unvaccinated will be the new Jews. Ironically, Israel tripped over themselves to be Pfizer/BioNtech guinea Pigs. BioNtech is a German Corporation none the less.

    https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/Once-Upon-A-Time-in-Wuhan-Odysee-Exclusive-Comp:2

    Anybody remember the stock message boards “Silicon Investor” or “Raging Bull”?

    #81456
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    those darned kids made me look up bokonon. In the Seventh Book of Bokonon, we read:

    “The Seventh Book: Bokonon’s Republic
    [ “…a whole book about Utopias”. [ 126 ] ]

    “The hand that stocks the drug stores rules the world.

    “Let us start our Republic with a chain of drug stores, a chain of grocery stores, a chain of gas chambers, and a national game. After that we can write our Constitution.”

    #81457
    absolute galore
    Participant

    In response to my posting today, @ thosedarnedkids wrote: “Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before,” Bokonon tells us. “He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way.”

    I’m not certain if you are chastising me for the level of frustration expressed in my post this morning? If so, gee thank you a bunch! But A. I am not exactly full of murderous resentment–just disgust, disbelief, frustration. However, I am of the opinion that these are all symptoms and expressions of our decline, and as such ultimately cannot be assigned to particular characters as being responsible. That in no way precludes me from thinking these characters are reprehensible.

    And B. these are not “people who are ignorant.” I provided a handy list of all their faults in one of my posts yesterday or the day before if you care to check. (Stupidity is not ignorance.)

    #81458
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    absolute galore

    I’m pretty sure those darned kids refers to the medical bureaucrats chastized by the Missouri Republican consultant. 🙂

    #81459
    absolute galore
    Participant

    @thosedarnkids Or maybe it is some reference I don’t get regarding the situation in Lake Ozarks? But don’t worry either way I’m not removing you from my Christmas card list.

    #81460
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Okay, just saw Cafone’s posts. I confess the original quote from Bokonon is still not working for my brain…

    #81461
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    The WSJ article is gold: such support for the-medication-that-shall-not-be-named! But it’s behind a paywall and I don’t intend to send any of my AUD to Mr Murdoch.

    The entire text is available from a number of other websites, including covid19criticalcare.com in PDF format, and pressreader.com.

    Get it while it’s hot and pass it on.

    Now I wait to see the nature and content of the counter-attack. Could even the mighty Murdoch press withstand it?

    #81462

    The WSJ article is gold: such support for the-medication-that-shall-not-be-named! But it’s behind a paywall

    It wasn’t for me or I wouldn’t have quoted it.

    #81463
    those darned kids
    Participant

    er, sorry. sometimes a + b = october for me.

    my intent was to say the average person, especially those in flyoverworld, just seem to have a better grasp on what’s going on than so many of the highly educated people presented as experts.

    i was trying to agree. i like christmas cards.

    •••••••••••

    st. kurt is truly missed in these trying times. so it goes.

    #81464
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “I confess the original quote from Bokonon is still not working for my brain…”

    Pedants with college degrees. Doctors dispensing bad/wrong/deceitful information because their fellow experts told them what to believe, and how could the average ignorant unwashed American possibly be smarter/know more than a college-degreed pedant?

    That is the attitude I see the Bokon quote describing.

    #81465
    zerosum
    Participant

    “how could the average ignorant unwashed American possibly be smarter/know more than a college-degreed pedant?”

    Easy.
    Read TAE

    #81466

    #81467
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Iceland’s Chief Epidemiologist Suggests COVID-19 Restrictions Could Last For Up To 15 Years”

    Here we are at 15 months, that’s what I said about “15 Days”. …Or until the sun burns out, either way.

    Am I crazy here, or everyone else? CDC clearly says “Vaccines don’t work.” Against Delta. They also clearly say “PCR tests don’t work and never did.” Tests are leaving in December. But we have “cases” rising worldwide, according to a test that doesn’t work.

    So no one has the slightest inclination to stop all this.

    Order now, operators standing by.

    #81468
    Mr. House
    Participant

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ag-threatens-legal-action-over-texas-order-limiting-transportation-illegal-aliens

    Restrict the movement of legal citizens because covid, but do not restrict movement of people trying to enter illegally for that very same reason, got it. Does it not seem like they are trying to destroy your faith in the institutions and the law on purpose? Prosecute one side for same thing as other side you don’t prosecute. When conducting actions like this and only enforcing the law for people you like, what are you trying to do/accomplish?

    #81469
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Bureaucrats bloviating with all their media might does not a seafaring wind make. You can’t make a boat sail by mounting a giant fan on your deck and aiming it at the sails. The official colvid narrative has already been mortally wounded and is now spasming on deck like a hooked shark. It still hasd a nasty bite but it ain’t going anywhere but gone.

    The WSJ endorsed Ivermectin. Game over. Just residual slosh left. THe conservative backlash all this has created is just now visible on the sea horizon, a tsunami on the way.

    Soon, the water will recede and the experts will call it over: Covid Cured, more or less.

    And then, the tide will come back in, if people like Van Den Bossche are right, and if the genetic manufacture of protein spikes among the vaccinated proves as toxic as evidence strongly suggests.

    Things should get really interesting about then, I’m thinking.

    #81470
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Remember how Janet Reno thought killing 500,000 Iraqis was worth it, yet you think they care about 500,000 american dead due to a virus? If your entire city is burning down and you scream for .gov help they won’t come unless you force their hand, so anything they take a proactive approach to must be for some form of power grab, otherwise they wouldn’t be doing it.

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