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Jules Adolphe Breton The Song of the Lark 1884

 

An article on Jim Quinn’s Burning Platform gave me hope. Hope that the madness will be forced to end, though I have no hope this will be an easy process. The article, by “Hardscrabble Farmer”, describes what happens in France now the even stricter Health Pass measures have come into force. Much of the country is grinding to a halt.

We’ll have to wait and see how it plays out, and sure, the French are out for the summer, so empty terraces and restaurants are not that exceptional. The writer is probably not native French, and doesn’t know the intricacies of the health care system which is not entirely state run, there are indeed private clinics, “elite” is a French word after all, but much of what he says is undoubtedly true. And not only in France.

I think most countries that now cajole and threaten their citizens into being vaccinated will find, and have to admit at some point, that they just don’t have the numbers. But first France:

 

Message From France

Here in France it has gone to the extreme with the “Health” Pass. Last week on the 21st ALL restaurants, bars, coffee shops, and any leisure activities like sporting events, theaters, cinemas, museums, were closed to anyone without “the pass” and all staff at these places are mandated to get the jab to keep their job. It is now a 6 Month prison sentence if you are caught inside any of these places without the pass (the man who slapped the president in the face got only 3 months prison time).

Business owners will get a fine of 45,000 euros and 1 year prison sentence if they do not comply with the use of “the pass” and force all their employees to get the jab. (If you know France, you can commit murder and have less of a sentence) So the result? All the low paid employees quit, they can make more on welfare here (for now). We can still technically “get take out food” but I just tried last night and every restaurant in our town (that is dine in with take out) has closed their doors due to the lack of staff.

As of last week ALL doctors, nurses and health industry workers have been mandated to get the jab or lose their license, practice, job, business etc. [..] Since the Health care system is state run and funded, it has been run into the ground. All the good doctors left France 5 Years ago, all the hospitals look like they are 3rd world hospitals since there is no money to repair them, half of the equipment doesn’t work and not every hospital is stocked with supplies needed for daily needs (masks, gels, disposable gowns etc).

For 5 years Nurses have been understaffed and doing double the work because the Health care system is nearly bankrupt…. So add to this the mandatory jab. So the result? Well they took to the streets by the millions and now all the hospitals just lost another 50% of staff capacity. My doctor just went into early retirement (a.k.a. he quit) and I have yet to find a replacement.

As of Aug 1st ALL large malls, retail stores and grocery store owners and their staff need to be jabbed and the health pass is required to enter for employees and customers. This would be the equivalent to closing ALL Targets, Walmarts, Costcos, Home Depots, and all major grocery stores [..] to those without “the pass”.

[..] As of Sept 15th All public areas and access will be off limits. No farmers markets, no parks, no national parks, lakes, rivers, beaches, recreation areas, campsites etc. and no gathering over 100 people, no churches, no weddings, etc. As of Oct 1st ALL small vendors such as, delis, pizza trucks, sandwich shops, butchers, bakers, vegetable stands etc.

So as of Oct 1st I will only be able to purchase food by internet and pick up (if allowed). Food shortages, Truckers strike, hospitals and airports shutting down unemployment going through the roof. Its going to be a bumpy ride folks. Is it me or does all this seem a bit extreme for a “pass” that isn’t exactly working?

About those numbers: according to Our World in Data, France has 52% fully vaccinated people, and 68% who’ve had at least a single dose. I don’t believe that for a second, just as I don’t believe any country’s official numbers. Because they are used to push more people into getting vaccines, the idea being that high numbers will make them think it’s time to be with the group.

A nice example is a CNBC piece from August 2 about the US, which claims:

70% of U.S. adults have had at least one shot of a Covid vaccine, according to data published Monday by the CDC, about a month behind President Joe Biden’s Fourth of July goal.


[..] “We need to have at least 80% of the population vaccinated to truly have some form of herd immunity,” Dr. Paul Offit, a voting member of the Food and Drug Administration’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee, said in a recent interview. “This is a fairly contagious virus.”

But also on August 2, the Mayo Clinic had the US at 58% single dose vaccinated, which Our World in Data appears to confirm, and 49.9% fully vaccinated. But that doesn’t look too great a whole month after Biden’s July 4 70% goal ran out, dies it?

Two weeks later, on August 15, the number of fully vaccinated is up by just 1%, at 50.9%.

At that rate it will take a while. Or rather, that rate means they might as well give up. Because it’s an uphill battle in which the low hanging fruit has been picked. Vaccination centers are closing, demand is drying up. Just getting to 70% would be a miracle. But then the “experts” say that is not enough either, you need 80%. Forget about it. You will kill your economy first. Even at 70%, you have almost a third of your population not working, not shopping, living outside of the economy.

Bill H.R. 4980, posted on Congress.gov., says:

To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to ensure that any individual traveling on a flight that departs from or arrives to an airport inside the United States or a territory of the United States is fully vaccinated against COVID-19, and for other purposes.

This means half of Americans won’t be allowed to fly. Happy Americans! Happy airlines! And of course these measures will subsequently at some point be applied to all the fields they already are in France. Hospitality, stores, hospitals, etc. Which will lose a lot of their staff. and a huge chunk of their customers. As the fully vaccinated go up by 1% per two weeks.

Oh, and wait, I haven’t even mentioned the 3rd, 4th and so on, booster shots. Think everyone will get them all? If these people have their way, we’re going to live in a world where one week you can dine out and fly, but the next you first need to get the umpteenth shot to do it. And you may get real sick if you don’t to boot.

In Greece, the government last week announced that 65.1% of the total population have one dose, and 61.1% “of adults have completed their inoculation.” That would mean they are way ahead of the US, even though they started much later, had supply problems and so on. No, they’re lying too, all governments massage the numbers.

With the US at 50%, I’d say Greece is at 30%, 40% max. And resistance here is high, so the numbers will only climb very slowly. But of course, threats. A friend who works in a restaurant told me today that they’re threatening to fire him in October. He’s trying, with 5 others at the same place, to hire a lawyer to take their case, but the lawyers have so many of these cases that their fees have skyrocketed.

They base their claim on the idea that the Greek parliament have said you can’t fire people for not taking the vaccine. I simply don’t know enough about that. But it’s clear which way the wind is blowing. Here and in so many other places. Some people are docile, some governments have better propaganda, but it’s still all moving in the same direction.

What may break this downhill, and dangerous, trend, is reports about severe adverse effects, such as antibody-dependent enhancement, breaking through the near perfect wall of silence built around “alternative” views and other things that don’t fit the narrative. You can’t fool all of the people all of the time. But you can obviously try. And you can try and set one half of your population against the other. That’s a lovely idea too. The Land of the Free, but only for those who follow orders.

Note: I know, I know, they’re all betting on boosting their numbers by inoculating every new born child, even the unborn. Problem is, people tend to love their children even more than themselves. And no-one can assure them it’s safe to jab their kids, even if they claim it: there’s no evidence of it, none.

 

 

 

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  • #84087

    Jules Adolphe Breton The Song of the Lark 1884   An article on Jim Quinn’s Burning Platform gave me hope. Hope that the madness will be forced to
    [See the full post at: Hope]

    #84093
    Oroboros
    Participant

    So where is the Nuremberg Code in relation to the EU

    They just piss on your head and tell you it’s rain?

    Sure looks like that.

    And the EU’s core reason for existence I thought was to stop the endless wars between nation/city-states that plagued the continent for a thousand years.

    But the hell with Nuremberg, that was a whole 76 years ago, weren’t the Roman’s still in power then?

    Coercing medical experiments on pregnant women and babies would make Mengele grin ear to ear, “das ist sehr gut”

    I’ve had it with the Plandemic as a thing in itself.

    The Plandemic serves the overarching campaign of a global economic reset.

    It’s a stepping stone to the Digital Panopticon of social control.

    No cash, just centralized digital currency.

    You misbehave, your credit card stops working

    No vax, your credit card stops working

    Photographed at a protest, your credit card stops working

    Voted the wrong way, your credit card stops working

    Overheard in a cafe being less than enthusiastic about the current government and it’s policies, your credit card stops working

    We are very close to this happening.

    A 5g cell system and smart electric grid are the least pieces.

    The Plandemic has wiped out cash already in places. Cash is dirty and covered in disease, run for your life!

    5G is beam directed and know your XYZ co=ordinate down to inches in real time.

    Good, we can turn your car off if you even make a face at us!

    #84096
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    The Plandemic will run into an insurmountable obstacle: itself. The people who implement it.

    Rubber Meets Road

    #84097
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “He’s trying, with 5 others at the same place, to hire a lawyer to take their case, but the lawyers have so many of these cases that their fees have skyrocketed.”

    That’s when someobody gets wise and hires some local thugs instead.

    #84104
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Here in NL 69% are vaxxed according to OWID. The government has reported that there are still 1.8M people eligible to get the jab. That’s a bit over 10% of the population (only!) So a break for freedom unfortunately isn’t going to come from us. So I put my hope in France and the US as both countries have a strong connection with the idea of freedom. If the economic situation in France continues to worsen due to staff shortages, that could possibly dislodge MacWrong, let’s hope so.

    The other way out of this mess is much less palatable. It’s when the hidden side effects of the vaccines become too obvious to ignore. ADE looks like a real possibility for this autumn/winter, then there’s cancers, heart and other organ problems, impaired immune systems resulting in more diseases and further down the line, with the lipid nanoparticles crossing the blood-brain barrier, the onset of ALS, Parkinson’s and mad cow disease. According to Dr Richard Fleming, this has been seen in animal studies and the equivalent period of time in humans is about 1.5 years.

    Grim.

    #84107
    chooch
    Participant

    Still trying to bring about that inflection point in my sphere of influence. Unfortunately, I see more and more succumbing to the coercion. I am sure I will see a mandate email from my employer soon.

    Anyway, a couple of notes from the Economist magazine podcasts related to their World in 2021 edition. The first one is just offensive and The second is more of the same predictive programming that we struggle against.

    “I think there is a danger that democracy will retreat in 2021. I’m hoping eventually we will be able to get widespread vaccine out there and that will make it easier for people to gather together and organize, which is what you need to be able to do if you are going to resist tyranny.”

    Robert Guest, foreign editor Economist

    “There won’t be widespread vaccination in the world until 2023. Rich countries have over ordered 4 to 5x more than they need to vaccinate their whole population. Looking as though many countries that vaccinate early may have to give boosters at the end of the year to cover against new variants. Then it looks like we will have endemic coronavirus and it’s going to be everywhere and we will need annual shots to protect us much like the flu. That seems to be the long term position…Once you want to open your borders to the rest of the world, even if you have vaccinated your whole population and only allow vaccinated people in you are going to find its not a water tight seal as these vaccinations are not a 100% effective. You need to have herd immunity and it looks like herd immunity is a tall order given the large numbers of people that a reluctant to be vaccinated.”

    Tom Standage, deputy editor Economist

    #84112
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Hardscrabble Farmer has his own site/blog. He posted several essays there about what’s gone on in the past 1 1/2 years – all are uplifting, capable of giving hope. 🙂

    It’s hard. The insanity is somewhere in the outer atmosphere at this point. None of this makes sense to anyone who is still thinking rationally.

    A lot of people have had some type of psychotic break after a year plus of torture. I feel for them, I do. They’re in their own form of hell.

    But we have to hold on. If not us, who?

    #84113
    deflationista
    Participant

    Hillsborough County Public School Board will hold an emergency meeting Wednesday after 5,599 students and 316 staff have entered quarantine for COVID. The Tampa-area district, seventh largest in the U.S., has only been in school four days.

    https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/nearly-5600-hillsborough-co-students-in-quarantine-emergency-school-board-meeting-called-for-wednesday/

    #84115
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    “… 5,599 students and 316 staff have entered quarantine …”

    Excellent. If life keeps getting shut down due to PRC tested *cases* … well, the economy will simply grind to a halt (as if we aren’t on our way there already). It’ll slow slowly, as long trains do before they stop completely. Should be entertaining.

    #84118
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @upstateNYer

    ref : ” d benton: what’s your definition of “help”? ”

    Oh, the usual : Help my virtuous tribe repel the wicked tribe. Help my local rich trod down upon the local poor. Help my local poor rise up and throw off the yoke of the local rich who trod upon them. Help my country be the witting or unwitting instrument in yet another proxy war. Help my corrupt government help your corrupt government.

    In other words : now that the USA has pissed away the last remaining trace of trustworthiness it will now find NO ONE ( saints and demons alike ) dumb enough to to risk their lives by trusting the USA in any meaningful way. We are now isolated from everyone other than straight up mercenary war lords . . . and even they will want to be paid in advance.

    #84119
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    d benton: wellll … keep in mind, we turned our [MIC] back on those, um, other people. Not on the countries who, um, ya know, depend on our help to make sure they can keep doing these same things themselves.

    #84120
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    ““I think there is a danger that democracy will retreat in 2021. I’m hoping eventually we will be able to get widespread vaccine out there and that will make it easier for people to gather together and organize, which is what you need to be able to do if you are going to resist tyranny.””

    Submission accomplished!

    #84121
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “Then it looks like we will have endemic coronavirus and it’s going to be everywhere and we will need annual shots to protect us much like the flu.”

    Well, non-mandatory safe flu shots are fine. Maybe we even “need” them. Mandatory won’t fly. To the extent that it succeeds, it will destroy the entity mandating them… along with a bunch of people, of course.

    I’m trying to think of an established, historically respected mainstream English-language news/magazine that is still capable of comprehending non-mediated reality. I fail.

    #84122
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Not everyone is willing to jump the fence, but some do:

    Phoenix the Wonder-Horse

    #84123
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Is this anomie?

    Mind your fucking manners, dude!

    “UNMASK THEM! UNMASK THEM ALL!”

    Then the cops come and everyone runs. I have no idea what they think they’re accomplishing each other. Doubt they do either.

    #84124
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Chink in the IVM denialist armour?

    A month ago the Spectator’s Australian edition published an article entitled “Hunt goes off-script with IVM”. Excerpt:

    Indeed, federal Health Minister Greg Hunt wrote to one of the doctors in Australia who prescribes ivermectin confirming that he was aware that some physicians are prescribing ivermectin off-label for Covid and that they were quite within their rights as the practice of prescribing registered medicines outside of their approved indications is not regulated or controlled by the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA), it is at the discretion of the prescribing physician. Yet the silence persists. Ivermectin is the drug that dare not speak its name.

    About 3 weeks ago it published “Ivermectin: It’s as Aussie as Vegemite”. Excerpt:

    That treatment was discovered by Australian Professor Thomas Borody based on research by Australian scientists at the Doherty Institute and Monash University. Borody, who discovered the cure for peptic ulcers using a triple-therapy, has developed a triple-therapy for Covid using safe, cheap, approved medications.

    Doctors are already legally prescribing his therapy in Australia and the key medication — ivermectin — is being used in various combinations around the world and has been credited not just with dramatically reducing cases and deaths in the devastating second wave in India but also in Mexico City. Indeed, it is currently being used in 17 countries in Europe, Asia, Africa and Latin America and even in the US, where it is legal but where families sometimes have to get court orders to force hospitals to use it, to save their relatives lives.

    The Spectator is rather right-wing and I don’t always like its style, but in this case what the columnist wrote aligns with what I’ve been reading all over the place. Indeed, if the right-wing Spectator publishes articles like this, maybe the right-wing Murdoch press will do likewise? That could be good for spreading the word owing to the excessive influence Murdoch has in this country.

    Even the ABC today is writing that owing to delta, herd immunity via vaccination is impossible. A bit more:

    Local experts say in addition to the US example, data from multiple international jurisdictions across the world means the concept of herd immunity is now an “impossibility”.
    “It [herd immunity] requires people getting immunity from being vaccinated and immunity from contracting COVID, and recovering.
    “In the UK, for example, more than 90 per cent of people have either been vaccinated or recovered from COVID and even they haven’t got herd immunity.
    “In Australia, we’re relying purely on vaccination, as we don’t have enough people who had had COVID and recovered. …”
    [However] “Biden’s right, it’s becoming a ‘pandemic of the unvaccinated’.”

    Interesting that the quoted experts say that immunity can be achieved by the jab or by recovering from infection. No mention of adverse effects, though.

    #84127
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    As Raul points out so well, mRNA vaccines alone cannot end the pandemic. In highly vaccinated Israel and Iceland, outbreaks of the Delta Variant are stressing their healthcare systems. The vaccinated are contributing to the overwhelming of hospitals in the US delta variant hotspots. Every tool in the public health arsenal is needed to eradicate coronavirus. This requires good government and consent of the governed. Otherwise, the virus rips though the population killing and maiming more Americans for years leaving only survivors. The vaccinated will need booster shots to earn an income.

    This is not the sole catastrophe striking the West at the same time.

    Kabul is worse than Saigon 1975. Rabble are falling from jet transports taking off. I blogged decades ago that the war was lost. Not that anybody listened. What has fallen is the Western Empire, much like the Soviet Union, defeated by a lost war gone bad and dysfunction government. Hubris, incompetence and delusions reign. Barrack Obama plainly said that Afghanistan was not a Holy War. But the western invaders were defeated by warriors who believe that “There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his messenger”.

    The current ruling western Insiders know that society does not exist, only merit defined by money matters. A sick defeated nation suffering devastating climate change driven floods, tornadoes, hurricanes and wildfires and purposefully divided against itself by Globalists will fall apart. Profiteers profit from it. I am afraid it will be quick and sudden. Isolating in suburbia, I’m still here 18 months into the pandemic but this is untenable in the long-term. I could be around long enough to become another victim.

    #84128
    russellnblbs
    Participant

    Re Hope. In the most hopeless of places (Aus) it seems some of the state gov’s has pushed it too far. The new harsher urban lockdowns, in particular banning children from playing in playgrounds, is turning even some of their more loyal supporters against them. I always thought that the harsher the measures got the more they would lose support. Living things don’t respond like machines, but of course they wouldn’t know that, see: ‘The measures are fine, it’s the people that are the problem.’

    #84131
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “As Raul points out so well, mRNA vaccines alone cannot end the pandemic.”

    Best I can tell, they can only exacerbate it. And I remind us again that these are not vaccines. They’re an experimental genetic therapy designed to mitigate symptoms while (probably unintentionally) designed to perpetuate the virus via augmented selection for surviving variants.

    And we will all become victim to something or other. A dear friend of mine lost his wife to the ’14 flu. His son lost HIS wife to the same flu same year. But he’s not hollering for widespread vaccination, much less mandatory vakzination.

    Russia has it right. (God, I sound like a Russophile but frankly, I prefer Bartok to Stravinsky.) Non-genetically experimental vaccine, no mandates but strong encouragement from a respected, even beloved leader. I would gladly voluntarily submit to genuine vaccination of the sterilzing immunity kind, period. At this point, with ADE almost certain, I’d probably take the Russian vaccine if made available. None of the others. Not USA’s, not China’s.

    #84134
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks to all who posted kind and supportive words last evening (here) after I posted my essay about facing the developing drive to mandate COVID vaccines for anyone who works at our community clinic.
    Thanks especially Upstate NYer. You posted moral support last night and also this morning. It takes me a long time to catch up on comments.
    @Robinboscohorowitzmadamskicafonivinski: I read your piece about Germany, but my use of Germany in 1932 was a completely apt comparison for the point I made, which was the boiling-frog-deciding-to-jump dilemma. It’s about the same to the frog.
    I also watched the horse video, and I cried. The lady narrating did not seem to understand about horses streaming soul-knowledge through their eyes at ginormous bitrates. They were not just smelling and stuff. They were eye connecting close up.
    I almost never cry. It’s just a change that came over me about 50 years ago when my voice dropped. It’s not that I don’t feel the upwelling of emotion sometimes.
    Horses know, but they can’t say, except through their eyes. Horses and I can do that. Deer do a thing that’s just telepathic. It feels like tingles to me.
    I don’t eat critters; haven’t for a long time.
    Don’t eat people, either. Never did.

    #84136
    John Day
    Participant

    I whistle to the deer around here. Usually when I’m bike commuting, or walking with Jenny. I think the twin fawns born in our yard last year come back. I can’t be sure. We put out a water bowl sometimes.

    #84138
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    and even they will want to be paid in advance.

    And they will probably want to be paid in gold or silver.

    #84140
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    John Day stars in The Deer Whistler.

    btw, The Song of the Lark is one of my very fave paintings.

    It’s my desktop image now.

    #84141
    HerrWerner
    Participant

    Add me to the list. My employer is now requiring the jab. And soon. Large international engineering/technical company. I expected it was coming, but not so fast. Matter of weeks, get the jab or GTFO. Comes right from the top.

    I think they think they are doing the right thing. They are True Believers up at the top. They think with their weight and influence they can change the world for the better. They think they are the very opposite of authoritarians. So this is not out of character. My betters have bit of a God complex perhaps – if we all do this thing, we will beat the ‘rona. and also fix all the other social problems with race and class that have troubled us for 10000 years. Seems like hubris mixed with a slice of Dunning-Kruger to me.

    Their announcement tells us to trust the science. Being a TAE reader I have a lot of scientific questions that have gone unanswered about the jabs, about covid, scientific questions that no authority will address, that get batted aside as irrelevant by the media. We know the largest risk factors now. 2/3 of USA is overweight, 1/3 is morbidly obese. No directives to take care of yourself, get better sleep, take some vitamin D. ‘Rona was going to kick our ass no matter what, and that was baked in starting 30 years ago.

    Trying to process things right now. At the moment I’m a little euphoric which is a strange feeling. Kind of glad its over and the decision made. Maybe this is our chance, the Universe opening up an opportunity to collapse now and avoid the rush.
    -HW

    #84142
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    John Day
    Horses know, but they can’t say, except through their eyes. Horses and I can do that.

    Thanks for that: in all my years of horsing around, I think I knew that on some level…
    Horses and I always got along very well… 😉

    #84143
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “I read your piece about Germany, but my use of Germany in 1932 was a completely apt comparison for the point I made, which was the boiling-frog-deciding-to-jump dilemma. It’s about the same to the frog.”

    I agree. I probably phrased my remark thoughtlessly. Color me clueless. I just meant to say that while the modus operandi of das kovid and the Nazis are VERY similar, the foundations under their respective modus O’s are headed in the opposite direction.

    Bit of a kneejerk on part in reaction to all the Orwellian assumptions I often read around here.

    Eyes, nose, mouth: humans do it too, but usually only when making genuine love. We have, imo, so distanced ourselves from what we evolved to be, that we can hardly even look each other in the eye casually during a subway commute.

    ^&*

    Herr Werner: be sure and tell them, pls, that when they come begging for you to return to work, your rates will go up substantially.

    #84145
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “The current ruling western Insiders know that society does not exist, only merit defined by money matters.”

    That is a perfectlly accurate and concise description, I thiunk.

    #84146
    John Day
    Participant

    @HerrWerner: Drag your heels, man.
    There is some kind of time urgency.
    Take vacation on the day the edict goes into effect.
    Call in quarantined-for-COVID-exposure.
    Get creative. Run out this clock while the data just keeps getting worse.

    #84147
    absolute galore
    Participant

    I suspect the official vaxxed #s for the U.S. are fairly close to accurate. The well over 70% rates claimed for many of the states in the Northeast seem plausible based on my experience. This would be balanced out by the apparently much lower rates in some parts of the country. Which I think creates a problem that might be unique to the U.S.–your hope scenario would be a regional phenomenon. I’m not sure what that would look like, but I suspect not as good as a single, unified pushback across an entire country.

    #84148
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Working for (and thereby empowering) people who are willing for you to be harmed or killed so that they can feel morally superior is probably not a good long range survival strategy. Even if you manage to slip past their neurosis on this one occassion, you would thereafter still be working for madmen. It is such a tough call that you are the only one who can make the decision of which strategy (the risk of the jab or the certainty of unemployment) is the correct choice.

    #84149
    zerosum
    Participant

    In United States of America, from 3 January 2020 to 6:41pm CEST, 16 August 2021, there have been 36,385,257 confirmed cases of COVID-19 with 615,747 deaths, reported to WHO. As of 13 August 2021, a total of 355,480,412 vaccine doses have been administered.

    Can you get covid 19 a second time?
    If you cannot get covid 19 a second time, that means that you are immune.

    We are bombarded every day to get our vaccine to become immune.

    Oppps! I ‘m repeating “old info”

    The covid 19 has changed. Its now the covid delta variant. You can get delta because its different. Vaccines helps only 42%

    Oppps! There is a new covid lamda that evades the vaccine.
    There goes our chance of getting “Herd Immunity” for the foreseeable future.

    https://www.newsweek.com/lambda-vs-delta-covid-variant-what-we-know-so-far-about-different-strains-1616167
    The Delta variant of the coronavirus overwhelmingly remains the dominant strain in the United States, but the Lambda variant has started getting attention in recent days.

    Like the Delta variant, Lambda is highly infectious and thought to be more resistant to vaccines than the original version of the virus. Though much remains unknown about the strain, there have been some alarming characteristics detected by researchers.

    At the moment, the Lambda variant has been mainly spreading through South America after first being identified in Peru in August 2020, but cases have been seen in Texas and South Carolina. Fewer than 700 cases of the Lambda variant have been sequenced in the U.S. out of more than 34 million coronavirus reported cases, according to one estimate. However, the U.S. has only sequenced a small amount of its cases, so the actual number of cases associated with the strain may be much higher.
    In all, 28 countries have identified Lambda variants in COVID cases, according to GISAID. Scientists say it is closely related to one of the earliest known variants of the virus, known as Alpha.

    The World Health Organization (WHO) says Lambda has the potential for increased transmissibility and may have increased resistance to neutralizing antibodies, both characteristics associated with the Delta variant.

    READ MORE
    A Doomsday COVID Variant Worse Than Delta May Be Coming, Scientists Say
    Lambda COVID Variant, Behind 1,000 Cases in U.S., Shows Vaccine Resistance

    #84151
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    A single unified pushback would be a revolution. We have this strange notion that we can peacefully gather en masse and change things. The Gandhi mythology spread this concept. India was a unique case. Most of the time, that nonviolent stuff will get you killed.

    A single unified pushback would likely manifest as something like the Chinese Cultural Revolution.

    We are, and ever have been, a nation divided against itself. We have mostly united, as human groups usually do, when provided some Other to hate and hurt. We slaughtered ourselves to end slavery when letting petroleum and science (already in motion at that time) prevail would have ended it without the carnage. Our Melting Pot mythology, the “Behold I set my lamp beside the Golden Door” mythic ethos, united us against foreign nations starving their peasantry: other nations were BAD, USA was GOOD.

    Then, once we felt satisfied with ourselves as Better than Them, we began the overseas imperialism we now see evaporating. They were BAD and needed our GOODness.

    It is not when we are unified, when we stand together when wre are good; it is when we stand tall as individuals that we stand together in a way that serves rather than harms us and others.

    “The average American is alright. It is the ideal American who is all wrong.”

    The average American is for hirself. The ideal American is for some abstract group identity (conservative/liberal, for example), which group then bosses around average Americans… who don’t stand up for themselves. They stand up for each other, which is an egregious example of minding others’ business rather than your own.

    10 Americans standing upo for themselves can easily disperse and dismiss a crowd of 100 ideal Americans (antifa, teabaggers, etc.). Things will resolve into their next recognizable form when enough average Americans stand up for their god.damn.selves rather than this or that cause or group or some flag or lifestyle or currently fashionable notion of What’s Good Enough for Today’s Whatevers.

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    John Day: magnificent advice to Herr Werner and all looking at similar challenges.

    #84152
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “The average American is alright. It is the ideal American who is all wrong.” G.K.Chesterton

    #84153
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    There is comfort in belief. It offers relief from the discomforting anxiety of observing and thinking and deciding for oneself. There is comfort in slavery, too, and for the same reason. Freedom is the acceptance of full responsibility for choosing between the two modes.

    #84155
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Belief is awesome stuff… so long as one remebers that it is belief not proven knowledge of itself. One can believe in what one knows and know what one believes. Same with magical thinking (which overlaps considerably with believing): amazing stuff, vitally crucial to me, but must not be mixed with rational empiricism and all that critical thinking jazz.

    “I believe in nothing, for everything is sacred, and I believe in everything for nothing is sacred.” Tim Robbins

    #84156
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    D Benton Smith
    Participant
    There is comfort in belief. It offers relief from the discomforting anxiety of observing and thinking and deciding for oneself. There is comfort in slavery, too, and for the same reason. Freedom is the acceptance of full responsibility for choosing between the two modes.

    Those truisms are interesting. If one can truely understand them, there is a liberation of sorts…

    #84157
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Aye. To function at all requires some degree of belief, otherwise we could not act at all. We would be stuck in the paralysis of indecision. You have to believe the ground before you is solid else you could not take another step. It’s why we are prone to hypnosis, we must have the capacity to believe, so that we can act on that belief and hopefully survive. Some clever scoundrels have learned to “hack” that necessary flaw to persuade us to BELIEVE all sorts of weird and phoney stuff. Like most everything else in this Universe of nested delusions it is a balancing act.
    Sometimes ( such as the present times, of Covid and vaxes and wall-to-wall propaganda) , though, it really gets out of hand. Methinks a little judicious disbelief would come in pretty handy right about now, starting with the hypnotic belief that Science is something other than a hypnotic belief system.
    I love the scientific method, and think that logic and math and physics and shit like that is way cool . . . but I do not actually BELIEVE it. That materialistic crap is based on PROBABILITIES, and subject to new and improved and CHANGED estimates of probability at a moments notice. The only thing that I actually BELIEVE, with complete certainty, is that thee and me are aware.

    #84159
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Ulysses S. Grant said, “I know no method to secure the repeal of bad or obnoxious laws so effective as their stringent execution.”

    Is this a realistic hope in this era? Seems to me that the machinery of oppression and subjugation has been fine-tuned after centuries of experience, especially to the point of convincing the general public that imprisonment is a form of liberty.

    At the moment I think that Australia is a lost cause. The only thing that might mitigate the tribulation, but not avoid it, could be the multiplication of variants and the consequent realisation that it’s all out of our control. And in the MSM here there DOES seem to be a growing acceptance of vaccination futility. It’s got a long way to go, but it has started.

    #84174
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Get sick if you don’t? Not to be pro or anti vaccine, but a great many people have also said they get sick for a week if they DO. So 2x/year is 2/52 weeks out of service. Really want to take that vacation on planes that don’t fly the day after getting over a nasty, intentional flu?

    “I’m hoping eventually we will be able to get widespread vaccine out… which is what you need to be able to do if you are going to resist tyranny.”

    So…obey to resist tyranny? Orwell got nuttin’.

    :” Rich countries have over ordered 4 to 5x more than they need to vaccinate their whole population.

    That is not suspicious at all. Nor the 4 extra lines on your vaccine card. Cuz vaccines work! Every other vaccine needed a re-up every week to work, amirite? Oh wait, it was LIFELONG? So last century.

    Hillsborough County Public School Board will hold an emergency meeting Wednesday after 5,599 students and 316 staff have entered quarantine for COVID”

    True. Except is a single person SICK? With any symptoms of merit at all? And with a test THEY say doesn’t work at all. There was a similar breathless story last week. So far as it went, no one was sick then either. It’s more effective than calling in a school bomb scare: nothing will ever get done again. Which we know as food is shutting down and shelves are bare.

    True of the Northeast rate it seems, maybe a teeny exaggerated, except this: all these states, like Illinois, NY, PA, are Blue city under siege by Red country. So you could get 90% urban rates and have 40% rural right next to them. If any of these narratives are true, one of those two groups is about to die in large numbers and shift the culture substantially.

    #84185
    morongobill
    Participant

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