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Vincent van Gogh Starry night over the Rhône 1888

 

To Governor DeSantis, Ivey, Lee And Others (Denninger)
FDA Advisory Panel Rejects Widespread Pfizer Booster Shots (AP)
FDA Advisory Panel Rejects COVID Booster Shot for Most Americans (NR)
How ‘Witch Hunts’ ALWAYS Start… (Denninger)
24 State AG’s Challenge Biden’s Vaccine Mandate For Private Sector (JTN)
Biden To Host Covid-19 Summit On Wednesday (Y!)
Excess Death:Life Ratio Is Unacceptable (Kirsch)
11 of 15 NYC Restaurants Not Enforcing Vaccine Mandate (NYP)
Vaccine Nasal Sprays Aim To ‘Shut Door’ On Virus (Y!)
Ronapreve: ‘Most Vulnerable’ To Get New Covid Drug Next Week (BBC)
Lions and tigers at National Zoo Being Treated For Covid-19 (JTN)
Morrison, The Third Amigo, Speaks Loudly To Xi (SMH)

 

 

Remarkable.

 

 

 

 

Less than a year ago.

 

 

Ron Paul

 

 

Karl leaves out the vit. D. Not great. But a good initiative.

To Governor DeSantis, Ivey, Lee And Others (Denninger)

It is time to respond to this outrage: BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (WBRC) – “The increase in usage of monoclonal antibodies has caused federal officials to place new limits on how much of them Alabama will get. We’ve learned that state health officials and legislators are fighting to make sure the state gets as much as it needs. The interesting twist is that there is no shortage of monoclonal antibodies of any kind nationwide. As of this week, the more than 200 providers offering monoclonal antibodies will see a roughly 30 percent reduction in what they requested.”

Ok, fine. Which one of you Governors would like to have a basically-zero Covid rate? Which one of you would like to be the State with the lowest rate of coronavirus disease, a collapsed health-care burden (to near-zero) and a collapsed rate of death too. How would you like to see this start to happen within two weeks and be so apparent every news stations has to report on it within a month?Here’s how — which, if you read when I put this forward, was something I promoted in early December of 2020. It costs about $2 per person in a household.

It’s simple: For anyone suspected (test results not back yet) you dispense to them five doses of Ivermectin to be taken every day if they are obese or otherwise morbid, and every second day if not along with one dose per every two days for everyone in the household, calibrated by their weight. Everyone in the household also gets ten days of a 1,000mg Vitamin C tablet and ten days of 30mg of Zinc, both dietary supplements. The exception is anyone on a blood thinner; you simply ask and, if they are, they don’t get the drug (but do get the supplements.) The State buys the drug in bulk, from India if you have to (fly a charter over there to pick it up; **** the Feds) and dispenses it.

Why? Read the linked article. This is is not just about treatment; it is also about cutting off forward transmission of the virus. It will not work every time but it doesn’t have to work every time — just often enough to suppress Rt below 1.0 and the virus dies out. The risk of someone having a serious adverse event from this is 1 in 600,000. If Florida has ten percent of their population that gets infected (or suspected to be) or is in a household with someone who is over the next three months (improbably high, but let’s go with it) that would be a cost of about $5 million. For Alabama it would cost about a million. That’s it. Who’s got the stones to do this?

Whoever does it first and collapses their Covid-19 case, hospitalization and death rate is President in 2024 — that is, if the other 49 States don’t have their residents lay siege to DC and their State governments as soon as they see the first State’s results. It won’t work? Yes it will — it did in a State in India too with over 200 million people. Grow a set, governors. The Federal Government cannot prevent you from doing this.

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AP changed the headline on the fly. From the one I used it became: “US Panel Backs Covid-19 Boosters Only For Seniors, High-risk”. Curious.

The rejection was massive, that is noticeable. 16-2.

FDA Advisory Panel Rejects Widespread Pfizer Booster Shots (AP)

Dealing the White House a stinging setback, a government advisory panel overwhelmingly rejected a plan Friday to give Pfizer COVID-19 booster shots across the board, and instead endorsed the extra vaccine dose only for those who are 65 or older or run a high risk of severe disease. The twin votes represented a heavy blow to the Biden administration’s sweeping effort, announced a month ago, to shore up nearly all Americans’ protection amid the spread of the highly contagious delta variant. The nonbinding recommendation — from an influential committee of outside experts who advise the Food and Drug Administration — is not the last word. The FDA will consider the group’s advice and make its own decision, probably within days. And the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is set to weigh in next week.

In a surprising turn, the advisory panel rejected, 16-2, boosters for almost everyone. Members cited a lack of safety data on extra doses and also raised doubts about the value of mass boosters, rather than ones targeted to specific groups. Then, in an 18-0 vote, it endorsed extra shots for people 65 and older and those at risk of serious disease. Panel members also agreed that health workers and others who run a high risk of being exposed to the virus on the job should get boosters, too. That would help salvage part of the White House’s campaign but would still be a huge step back from the far-reaching proposal to offer third shots of both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines to Americans eight months after they get their second dose. The White House sought to frame the action as progress.

“Today was an important step forward in providing better protection to Americans from COVID-19,” said White House spokesman Kevin Munoz. “We stand ready to provide booster shots to eligible Americans once the process concludes at the end of next week.”

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Same thing, but I noticed this sentence: “..data from Israel which shows that a booster can strengthen protection for a few weeks in older adults.”

FDA Advisory Panel Rejects COVID Booster Shot for Most Americans (NR)

An advisory panel to the Food and Drug Administration on Friday recommended against approving a booster shot of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine to most Americans. The scientific advisory committee voted 16-to-3 against recommending the additional shots, thwarting the Biden administration’s hopes that the FDA would approve the third shot in time to begin rolling out the extra dose for Pfizer recipients next week. However, the panel voted 18-0 in favor of recommending a booster shot for anyone over 65 or anyone who is at high risk of severe disease from COVID-19.

The vote followed a daylong debate in which a number of the panel’s independent experts questioned whether the data justified a broad rollout of an additional shot to most Americans while the vaccines still appear to offer strong protection against severe COVID-19 disease and hospitalization. “It’s unclear that everyone needs to be boosted, other than a subset of the population that clearly would be at high risk for serious disease,” said Dr. Michael G. Kurilla, a committee member and official at the National Institutes of Health. The CDC’s Dr. Sara Oliver presented data showing that vaccines continue to offer robust protection against severe forms of COVID-19 in the U.S., even in people 75 and older.

Jonathan Sterne, a professor of medical statistics and epidemiology in the U.K., said his analysis of 76 different studies on the vaccines’ real world effectiveness found that a number of factors can skew the results, including how many unvaccinated people in a study have natural immunity from earlier COVID-19 disease. He cautioned against drawing conclusions from short-term results from booster shots, such as data from Israel which shows that a booster can strengthen protection for a few weeks in older adults.

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“..the reason the town has a rat problem is that they’re leaving their damned trash outdoors and have killed all the cats who would otherwise control the rodents.”

How ‘Witch Hunts’ ALWAYS Start… (Denninger)

Non-sterilizing vaccines increase infection prevalence markedly because someone who is infected yet has protection does not know they’re infected and thus spreads it all over the place until it hits someone who has had a vaccine failure (not “breakthough”) or is unvaccinated. You then see actual symptomatic disease yet the vaccinated people may well have passed the pathogen through a dozen or more of them before that happened. In short the vaccines we’re using today cause VACCINATED PERSONS to screw both the unvaccinated and those who have waning immunity which incidentally is extremely common with narrowly-focused non-sterilizing vaccines (again, witness the “aP” versions of the pertussis vaccine .vs. the “wP” versions which are durable) and that does not even account for the coronavirus mutational factor which we’ve also know about for decades and, in non-sterilized vaccinated persons promotes mutational escape since the odds of being symptomatic go down.

Who doesn’t get screwed? Those who got the pathogen and built durable and broad natural immunity, as well as those who used sterilizing vaccines — if there is one. For coronaviruses there isn’t one so in point of fact the actual plague rats are calling everyone else a “witch” and threatening to drown or burn them when in fact the reason the town has a rat problem is that they’re leaving their damned trash outdoors and have killed all the cats who would otherwise control the rodents. And the worst part of it are the grifters who have 40+ years of actual scientific knowledge that they’re 100% full of **** and yet run around scaring everyone and telling them that if they just drown a few more witches the rats will go away. It was a damnable lie hundreds of years ago, it was used for profit hundreds of years ago and it remains a damnable lie used for profit today. Worse is a “vaccine passport”; that provides the plague rats the ability to congregate with more plague rats and wildly spread disease among them so as to find more susceptible hosts!

Such schemes with non-sterilizing vaccines ridiculously increase disease propagation.The absolute worst of this is forced, encouraged or, dare I say, allowed non-sterilizing vaccination among health care workers. That’s manslaughter because some percentage of their patients cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons and by definition those who seek health care are already compromised in some fashion or they wouldn’t be there. Perhaps they have cancer and are taking chemotherapy or have some immunological disorder. A non-sterilized vaccinated nurse or doctor treating them is going to kill them as certain as the sun will rise in the East tomorrow because said doctor or nurse has no idea they’re infected and passing the pathogen to others; as soon as it hits someone who is actually susceptible to get sick that person is screwed.

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“..a public health disaster that will displace vulnerable workers and exacerbate a nationwide hospital staffing crisis, with severe consequences for all Americans.”

24 State AG’s Challenge Biden’s Vaccine Mandate For Private Sector (JTN)

24 Republican attorneys general, led by South Carolina AG Alan Wilson, have joined a coalition to stop President Joe Biden’s recent order that the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) mandate that private sector employers with 100 or more employees require them to receive a COVID-19 shot, submit to weekly testing, or lose their jobs. The order, the AGs argue, would drive some workers to leave their jobs (in an already tight labor market not yet recovered from last year’s shutdowns) — including those in the healthcare industry. Calling Biden’s plan “disastrous and counterproductive,” the AGs’ letter warns the “vaccination mandate represents not only a threat to individual liberty, but a public health disaster that will displace vulnerable workers and exacerbate a nationwide hospital staffing crisis, with severe consequences for all Americans.”

Nurses have already been refusing vaccine mandates imposed by their employers in many states, and filed lawsuits arguing their natural immunity protects them and others. After working for over a year in hospitals and urgent care centers being exposed to those who had the coronavirus, plaintiffs in several lawsuits argue they were considered heroes. Now, they’re losing their jobs or being vilified for choosing not to take an experimental drug only available, in some cases, through emergency use authorization, according to their complaints. Biden’s mandate doesn’t include exemptions for those who work remotely, have religious objections or health concerns, or have already obtained natural immunity following recovery from the virus.

The attorneys general argue Biden’s “edict is also illegal,” relying as it does on a rarely used emergency temporary standard under the Occupational Safety and Health Act. Exempt from the normal public notice and comment period, the emergency standard can go into effect immediately upon publication. In June, the Department of Labor attempted to adopt an emergency temporary standard for the first time since 1983, and that attempt is currently under challenge. “Regardless of how you feel about vaccines, President Biden’s edict is illegal and if the administration doesn’t change course we’ll pursue every legal option to strike it down,” S.C. AG Wilson said in a statement. “I’m fully vaccinated and encourage everyone who can to get the shot, but this is a question of following the law. We think it will also mean fewer people will get vaccinated, which we’ve already seen in New York, where healthcare workers quit because of New York’s vaccine mandate.”

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More vaccines.

“..NGOs, philanthropists, and industry..”

Biden To Host Covid-19 Summit On Wednesday (Y!)

President Joe Biden will host a virtual summit with world leaders on the coronavirus pandemic next Wednesday, a day after he addresses the United Nations General Assembly, the White House said Friday. “This meeting is about expanding and enhancing our shared efforts to defeat Covid-19” and will seek to “align on a common vision” against the virus, Press Secretary Jen Psaki said in a statement. The summit will be “on the margins of the UN General Assembly.” Biden, due to address the annual UN meeting on Tuesday, has pitched the United States as the global leader on the fight to get the world vaccinated, even if the claim is greeted with skepticism by some health NGOs and others.


No details about participants were provided. Psaki said in her statement that the summit will build “from previous gatherings of world leaders and ministers in fora like the G7, G20, and Act Accelerator to rally civil society, NGOs, philanthropists, and industry along with world leaders and align on a common vision for defeating Covid-19 together.”

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Kirsch’s slides don’t fit well into Debt Rattle format.

Steve Kirsch Founded COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund (CETF). Entrepreneur, philanthropist, environmentalist.
Tweet: “@stkirsch had his Twitter account suspended for asking people to read his article on # of people killed by the vaccines. If Twitter thinks he’s wrong on this important issue, why not debate him instead of censoring him? You can follow him on GETTR. Slide 6 offered $1M bet to anyone who thought he was wrong. Where’s the misinfo? But if I tweet a link to his article, my account will be taken down so go to his GETTR account to see the post.”

Excess Death:Life Ratio Is Unacceptable (Kirsch)

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They need to make a living.

11 of 15 NYC Restaurants Not Enforcing Vaccine Mandate (NYP)

Most of the 15 Manhattan restaurants visited by undercover sleuths this week were not enforcing Mayor Bill de Blasio’s city-wide COVID-19 vaccine mandate for people dining inside, according to a new investigation. Only four of the 15 restaurants asked reporters for ID along with proof of vaccination before seating them inside, according to a segment from Inside Edition. At an Upper East Side location of the BurgerFi chain, the restaurant let a producer for the show order and eat inside without showing proof of vaccination — even though the eatery had small signs at each table that read “show me your vax.” When confronted the following day about the lax enforcement, a manager of the store said, “I’m shocked right now, not gonna lie. I’m shocked because I know that I’ve definitely been asking everyone.”


BurgerFi is now investigating the matter, a representative for the company told The Post. “After learning about the incident, we immediately began an investigation, and will continue to work with all BurgerFi locations to ensure all proper steps are taken to abide by vaccination dining regulations and policies appropriate to each restaurant location,” the spokesperson said. Hummus Kitchen, an Upper East Side Mediterranean restaurant, also didn’t ask to see proof of vaccination and matching ID when visited by an Inside Edition producer. Among the four restaurants that did cooperate with the order was SoHo’s Mercer Kitchen, where a hostess asked to see a vaccine card at the door.

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“.. trigger production of an antibody known as immunoglobulin A..”

Vaccine Nasal Sprays Aim To ‘Shut Door’ On Virus (Y!)

Could delivering Covid-19 immunity directly to the nose — the area of the body via which it is most likely to be transmitted — help conquer the pandemic? The World Health Organization says clinical trials are underway to evaluate eight nasal spray vaccines that target Covid-19. The most advanced effort so far by China’s Xiamen University, the University of Hong Kong and Beijing Wantai Biological Pharmacy has completed phase-2 trials. “When the virus infects someone it usually gets in through the nose,” said researcher Nathalie Mielcarek who is working with the Lille Pasteur Institute to develop a nasal spray vaccine against whooping cough. “The idea is to shut the door.”


An article published in Scientific American in March urged developing nasal spray vaccines because they have an immediate effect on the virus in an infected person’s mucus. There they trigger production of an antibody known as immunoglobulin A, which can block infection. “This overwhelming response, called sterilising immunity, reduces the chance that people will pass on the virus,” said the article. The vaccines currently available offer strong protection against severe forms of Covid-19 but are less reliable at preventing the spread of the virus. Stimulating immunity directly in the nose “lowers the risk of infecting other people”, said Mielcarek. “From there you have less of the virus infecting the lungs and so fewer severe cases since the viral load is lower,” she added.

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“..uses a pair of laboratory-made antibodies to attack the virus..”

“The UK is leading the world in identifying and rolling out life-saving medicines..”

Ronapreve: ‘Most Vulnerable’ To Get New Covid Drug Next Week (BBC)

The UK’s “most vulnerable” hospital patients, who are unable to build up an antibody response to Covid, will be offered new drug Ronapreve from Monday. The new Covid treatment, approved just last month, uses a pair of laboratory-made antibodies to attack the virus. It was famously used as part of the suite of experimental medicines given to US President Donald Trump last year. The antibody cocktail has been shown to reduce hospital stays by four days and cut the risk of death by a fifth. The government said it had secured sufficient supply of the new therapeutic for eligible NHS patients across the four nations to cover the forthcoming winter.


Health Secretary Sajid Javid said he was “thrilled it will be saving lives from as early as next week”. “The UK is leading the world in identifying and rolling out life-saving medicines, particularly for Covid 19, and we will continue our vital work to find the best treatments available to save lives and protect the NHS,” he said. The new treatment is expensive and priority will be given to those patients at greatest risk of becoming severely ill. It will be offered to those over-50 without the necessary antibodies, and those aged 12-49 who are immuno-compromised – for example those with certain cancers – who struggle to mount an antibody response, either through being exposed to Covid, or from vaccination.

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“..the Zoetis covid vaccine..”

Lions and tigers at National Zoo Being Treated For Covid-19 (JTN)

Nine big cats at the Smithsonian National Zoo in Washington D.C. are being treated for COVID-19 after testing positive for the virus, according to reports. According to zoo officials, six African lions, two Amur tigers, and a Sumatran tiger fell ill earlier this week. Animal keepers at the zoo say they observed decreased appetites, coughing, sneezing, and lethargy in several lions and tigers last weekend. After running a fecal test on the large cats, it was confirmed they had contracted the virus.


“The tigers are less affected than the lions, showing fewer symptoms. The varying degrees of symptoms have us watching all of the animals very carefully,” a zoo spokeswoman Pamela Baker-Masson told WTOP. ”We’re being as positive as possible.”The nine animals are being treated with anti-inflammatory and anti-nausea medication, along with an antibiotic to prevent pneumonia. The rest of the animals at the zoo are expected to be given the Zoetis covid vaccine, which is made specifically for animals. All of the large cats are expected to recover.

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“.. In the time it takes China to build 10 new submarines, Australia will be taking delivery of exactly none…”

Morrison, The Third Amigo, Speaks Loudly To Xi (SMH)

Beijing decided to break Australia’s will. It imposed trade bans on more than $20 billion worth of exports last year and published a list of 14 demands on Australia’s sovereignty. Australia’s reply was delivered this week. In co-ordinated appearances by Scott Morrison, Joe Biden and Boris Johnson, Australia elevated its relationships with the US and Britain to pool their efforts on the most important next-generation warfighting technologies. This so-called “trilateral security partnership” is to be known as AUKUS. In some ways this was mildly comical. The Dad’s Army Anglophone allies who fought together in World War II getting back together for one more fight, led by an American President who forgot Scott Morrison’s name at the critical moment – “that fella down under”, he improvised, “I appreciate you, pal” – in their joint video appearance on Thursday.

The three amigos – an Aussie marketing huckster, an English buffoon and an American senior citizen. Fresh from being chased out of Afghanistan and humiliated by barbarian terrorists they’d set out to defeat 20 years earlier. Their marquee initiative – for Washington and London to supply nuclear propulsion technology for Australian submarines – is serious. But Canberra has no ability to make use of it in a deployable submarine for at least another 20 years. What’s the point of giving an engine to someone without a car? In embracing AUKUS, Australia tore up its $90 billion deal with France for the supply of 12 conventionally powered submarines. Meaning that, from Thursday, Australia has no arrangements with anyone to supply any new submarines whatsoever.

China has 66 submarines. It’s expected to have 10 more by 2030. Six of those new boats will be nuclear-powered, according to the US Office of Naval Intelligence. In the time it takes China to build 10 new submarines, Australia will be taking delivery of exactly none.

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    Vincent van Gogh Starry night over the Rhône 1888   • To Governor DeSantis, Ivey, Lee And Others (Denninger) • FDA Advisory Panel Rejects Widespr
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle September 18 2021]

    #87452
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Vincent van Gogh Starry night over the Rhône 1888

    I’m just drawn in and lost in the beauty…

    #87454
    Germ
    Participant

    Just wow!

    “In a Highwire exclusive, Deborah Conrad, a hospitalist physician’s assistant on the frontlines of the pandemic, pulls back the curtain on the complete lack and disregard in her hospital for reporting Covid vaccine injury to VAERS, this country’s only mechanism to track the safety of these rushed-to-market, mandated products. In riveting detail, including emails & recorded phone conversations, Conrad exposes the internal push to turn a blind eye to injuries and “tow the company line” that this vaccine is safe.”

    #87455
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “CNN’s Don Lemon Urges Viewers “It’s Time To Start Shaming” Unvaccinated People”

    Start?

    Liiiiike, maybe closing grocery stores for 61% of NYC’s black population? Don Lemon: Killing some (black) folks.

    Tenant evictions: There’s already zero property or sovereignty for business, which is what selling apartment space is, so you’re going to discriminate on the basis of medical history, choice, or condition? Pretty sure you can’t even ask.

    This of course goes to the courts which as we’ve seen haven’t a care in the world what the law, precedent, or legal foundation is. It’s more legally rigorous to throw darts. As they’ve pointed out – thanks to US, who keep allowing this s—t – there are no three branches of government, or four. The Legislative does not pass laws, it enforces them, like Nancy Pelosi. The House of the people does not pass budgets with the purse strings, they look for budgets from Presidents. Executive Presidents do not enforce laws, or at least not most of them, against most people. However, they do enact laws, merely by decree. The Judicial also creates laws, however they uncreate them again tomorrow, at will. Or both. Courts disagree with each other more or less nationwide. Should the President decree laws, the court then upholds the process, erasing the legislatures, or not, someday maybe 10 years from now when it gets to USSC, as they feel like.

    Oh also corporations are people and have rights, but people are NOT people and have rights, unless they’re NOT a citizen, in which case they have super-rights.

    The fourth branch, the Media: no comment necessary. They are not a branch of government, but a branch of corporate power, just like the federal government is. None of them are branches or expressions of the people, which can only happen with fierce and illegal monopoly, access, bailout, and violent repression at every level, especially speech and choice, directly via the guns of government, FBI, DoJ, CIA, IRS, and ultimately, US Army, and is expressly why those branches are generally illegal according to Federal Law register No. 1, as is having a standing army outside of declared war.

    And you’re going to fix all this? Really? Arrest somebody? Vote somebody in? Sure: if you vote in somebody to disband D.C. and let them collapse to a town of 6,000, in the ruins of the Potomac, like Rome did. Outside of them ceasing to exist, it’s not going to change.

    I guess the 9/18 news is very widespread, even to the ex-President. The 15:1 FBI:Maga ratio going on today has 100% of the people looking to expose the new levels of FBI fake and fraud, plants and fabrications they’ve become famous for. Protest events that the media will invent as simply as non-stop gang shootings in a town of 7,000, and post video-game footage on the news proving their story. Again. And the people won’t notice. Again.

    Well, at least Obama endorsed Justin, that’s been the consistent kiss of death.

    five doses of Ivermectin to be taken every day if they are obese or otherwise morbid, and every second day …also gets ten days of a 1,000mg Vitamin C tablet and ten days of 30mg of Zinc”

    Since it’s essentially safe as aspirin, what’s the risk if it doesn’t work? Why won’t you try? If for nothing else than disproving it?

    New medical motto: “I would rather die than try.”

    “The nonbinding recommendation — from an influential committee of outside experts who advise the Food and Drug Administration — is not the last word.”

    Uh, what? So the reporter is in favor of, and has medically decided this needs to be fought in the trenches? Doctors 16:2 just decided this was unmedical and unsafe. But Chad on Facebook knows better.

    11 of 15 NYC Restaurants Not Enforcing Vaccine Mandate (NYP)”

    Tattling weasels. Snitches get stitches.

    Vaccine Nasal Sprays Aim To ‘Shut Door’ On Virus (Y!)”

    Since this is supposedly contagious or something, you could just get it once and be immune forever. You probably have, but we won’t test for it on you or anybody else.

    If not, then aren’t you saying it’s not really that contagious? Pick one.

    ““The UK is leading the world in identifying and rolling out life-saving medicines..”

    Except for Covid, where they’re almost the worst in the world, worse than India, where barefoot people live on the street. Since they are incapable of reason, incapable of self-reflection, they don’t notice. Especially the medical people and government.

    “Australia elevated its relationships with the US and Britain to pool their efforts on the most important next-generation warfighting technologies.”

    Non-sequitur much? So for a trade embargo you’re going to…attack China and go to war, to bring them to heel? Because that’s the only way those two items match up. Of course the article says it’s really just a shakedown for a collapsing empire, broke and in need of sudden cash. It’s tribute: Oz sends money they don’t have, and get nothing in return but promises.

    P.S. Ain’t afraid of nothing. What would I be afraid of? A virus that kills no one, and a vaccine that kills no one, with medical enforcement nobody’s following? I am pretty annoyed though.

    #87456
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    So lions and tigers get sick with covid and immediately get treated with anti-inflammatory and anti-nausea medication, along with an antibiotic to prevent pneumonia. People get sick and are told to stay home until they can’t breathe, THEN come in for treatment.

    Head scratcher, that one.

    #87458

    Upstate, they’re treated with dewormers that are not safe for humans. Much more research needed.

    #87459

    I checked stats at Worldometer for separate South America countries (because of the graph at the top). They all show the same pattern. Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil, Peru, all of them. Cases fell off a cliff starting around June 1. Anyone know why that is?

    #87460

    TAE is getting a lot of hits today because of my article yesterday, and the undertaker video, from American rightwing sites like rense.com and bustednuckles.com. That happens from time to time, and I take it in stride. My perspective changed a lot the past 6-7 years, and Russiagate.

    #87461
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Ilargi: “South America countries…all show the same pattern…Cases fell off a cliff…Anyone know why that is?”

    Maybe because not so many people were fully vaccinated there? Just guessing. The experts don’t seem to be able to come up with any other explanation.

    Almost every country in South America has seen a drop in new COVID-19 case numbers—with the situation marking a stark contrast to tallies seen just weeks ago…

    Peru, where Lambda was first discovered, has seen its seven-day case average drop from its peak of 9,928 on April 13 to 845 on September 6. Its vaccination rate has been lagging behind some other South American countries, with only 33.4 percent of its population having had at least one dose of the vaccine

    Commenting on the this drop in cases across South America, Carla Domingues, an epidemiologist who ran Brazil’s immunization program until 2019, told The New York Times: “Now the situation has cooled across South America. It’s a phenomenon we don’t know how to explain.

    South America, Where Lambda and Mu Variants Broke Out, Sees COVID Cases Plummet
    https://www.newsweek.com/south-america-lambda-mu-variants-covid-cases-plummet-1626409

    #87462
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Checking to see whether this image posts:

    #87464
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    In the graph, note that mRNA and adenovirus vaccines have the advantage of “rapid development” but are not considered to give the “strong and broad protection” of live attenuated vaccines.

    The graph is from an article by Japanese researchers.
    Could live attenuated vaccines better control COVID-19?
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34426024/

    Another article that’s similar:
    Should the world collaborate imminently to develop neglected live attenuated vaccines for COVID-19?
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34524688/

    #87465
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Full versions of the two articles I linked above:

    Could live attenuated vaccines better control COVID-19?
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8354792/

    Should the world collaborate imminently to develop neglected live attenuated vaccines for COVID-19?
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/jmv.27335

    #87466
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “Non-sterilizing vaccines increase infection prevalence markedly because someone who is infected yet has protection does not know they’re infected and thus spreads it all over the place…Who doesn’t get screwed? Those who got the pathogen and built durable and broad natural immunity, as well as those who used sterilizing vaccines — if there is one…”
    [Karl Denninger, from his article above]

    [Live attenuated vaccines] “LAVs can block completely replication and transmission of the target viruses, and they can hence inhibit emergence of vaccine-escape and virulence-enhancing variants…”
    [Should the world collaborate imminently to develop neglected live attenuated vaccines for COVID-19?, linked above]

    #87467
    chooch
    Participant


    @germ

    Thanks for posting that interview, authentic and heartfelt. What will it be like when all the Deb Conrad’s are forced out? Seems like she has a strong case for wrongful termination. But who has that kind of time and resources to weather it out in a corrupt system. It just seems at some level, as you move up in an organization, a tin heart and a lobotomy is required.

    Yesterday, you posted an interesting link to the Swedish experience compared to other countries. The thing that is a bit confounding is the typical signals that show up in the data after mass injections. I gather most of the adult population is fully injected. It seems there might be a lag and at the moment they are in the calm before the storm.

    #87468
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Using Denninger’s logic, the South American countries aren’t continuing to get screwed by Covid-19 as much as North America, Europe, and Israel, because South America didn’t get as much of the non-sterilizing vaccines.

    #87469
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil, Peru, all of them. Cases fell off a cliff starting around June 1. Anyone know why that is?

    Going into ‘summer’ and more Vit D???

    A black market for Ivermectin run by the drug cartels who now see more profit in generic off patent drugs banned by the Medical Mafia???

    Or they were too poor to buy the Cull Shot.

    #87470
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @Doc Robinson

    If ‘they’ already released one genetically modified coronavirus from gain-of function research, why not another, and another and another?

    “They’ could have designed all the so called ‘mutants’ and are just releasing them as needed. Mutants are happening naturally anyway as a result of the mass vax, why not use that phenomenon as cover to release more lethal problematic designer versions?

    Do you really think ‘they’ would hesitate after all ‘they’ have gotten away with to date?

    How many versions of lethal spike protein do you think are possible???

    #87471
    zerosum
    Participant

    THEY KNOW!
    (especially if THEY read TAE)
    Executive summary

    VC, VD, Zinc, Ivermectin, HCQ helps the immune system

    Tests for covid are not reliable
    Vaccines will not stop the pandemic
    Vaccines have breakthrough infections
    Vaccines help covid variants to survive – Alpha, Lambda, delta, mu
    Vaccines give partial help
    Vaccine Booster shots help only for a few weeks
    Vaccines for covid don’t give immunity

    Survivors of covid have natural herd immunity

    Vaccine passports will not stop the pandemic

    The medical establishment getting wealthy
    The governments are printing money to give to the medical establishment

    The death rates are not at pandemic levels, ( stats at Worldometer)

    The herd is mindless and easy to manipulate

    Refugees, poor, and destitute people are not dying “en masse”, from covid

    THEY tell lies “It’s a phenomenon we don’t know how to explain.“

    ————-

    #87473
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    @ Oroboros

    I’m reminded of a comment a while back by Susmarie108 which has stuck with me, essentially “Do not underestimate them.” Perhaps it’s underestimating “them” to assume “they” wouldn’t use such evil tactics.

    By the way, June is the beginning of winter, not summer, in South America.

    #87474
    zerosum
    Participant

    Capitol demonstration
    https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-elections-prisons-capitol-siege-12b13804484d90c3ea780cf39635b9ef

    No war. No insurrection. (Only expensive show of force.) Only peace

    Demonstrators are at home watching the goon show on TV.

    (Only the security, the garbage trucks, the photographers, the news media, and the street vendors, showed up,)

    #87475
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    https://commonsensetv.nl/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/NL1007_2.jpg

    Civil disobedience, because you can’t change the game by keeping to the rules.

    #87476
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    My perspective changed a lot the past 6-7 years, and Russiagate.

    Believe me, alone in that, you ain’t.

    #87477
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Well, I tried being more direct in my approach to the believers,saying that the jabs don’t work and they’re dangerous, but as several commenters told me, it doesn’t change anything. Believers gonna believe.

    Case in point, I had my annual medical at work during the week and of course the doctor asked me if I’d had the shot. When I told her that I hadn’t she asked me why and I said that I’d had C19 and therefore already had the best immunity there is. She seemed to accept it and I should have left it there, instead I blurted out that the jabs don’t work and that they’re dangerous. “Oh but they do work,” she said, “and very well, too!”
    I tried to argue, you know, using facts, but she was having none of it and refused to discuss further.

    This is from a recent ZH article, about the qualities the believers have. It seems about right to me:

    1. Smugness. An absolute, unwavering, and arrogantly condescending attitude toward all non-woke opinions. While a trait in itself, it is related to number 2.

    2. Lack of introspection. No trace of self-questioning or apparent inner monologue. No sense of fairness or understanding of relative opinion.

    3. Quickness to anger. Willingness to not only voice their opinion on any occasion, with anyone, even when outnumbered, but to do so angrily. A willingness to cut off any friend or family member who won’t comply with woke belief.

    4. Nihilist atheism. They will rant a lot about science, while at the same time ignoring science that doesn’t comply with their beliefs. They tend to assume you are dogmatically religious if you don’t agree with them. They will cling to a strongly negative nihilism believing that everything is ultimately hopeless, and that it is sardonic hubris to do or believe in anything (which ties into number 6).

    5. Dishonesty. They are willing to be openly dishonest to further their viral ideas. If they lose a point in an argument, they move on to a new point, never acknowledging or acquiescing that a point was lost. When all attack points are used, personal attacks begin. The past is a blank slate open to revision.

    6. Self-absorbed. This one took me a while to notice, but it seems a give-away idiosyncrasy that you are dealing with a woke-infection if the person has become abnormally self-centered, and in conversation, does not so much reciprocate, as talk about themselves, always positive or self-aggrandizing, often unrealistically. They may also insert self-pity, it seems to generally exacerbate a need for attention-seeking.

    7. Depression, low self-worth, anxiety. This one I also only noticed recently, it is likely the subconscious result of numbers 4 and 6 in particular. Any genuine personal questioning of the subject usually reveals deep worries and angst, and often mental health issues.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/7-signs-your-friend-or-family-member-has-fallen-victim-woke-mind-virus

    #87478
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    They don’t need more versions of lethal spike protein

    They just need to keep the injections going and it seems like the mandates are designed to do that. No work, no food, no housing and no freedom unless you submit

    #87479
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    What makes conversations more difficult in Canada is the fact that it is non- vaccinated who are absolutely overwhelmingly getting sick enough to end up in hospital. In the short term, the vaccine wins (as long as you don’t draw a short straw end get an adverse reaction). ADE is a long-term issue that, if I understand correctly, will be very difficult to trace back to vaccination.
    Had another chat with a friend who works in Canada’s health regulatory agency- still not vaccinated because this person maintains her health is not good enough to produce an immune response. She seemed overall not nearly as confident in the vaccine route as most of the other chatter. She did not laugh me off when I mentioned ADE – just said we will only know how much of an issue this becomes with real world experience.

    #87480
    those darned kids
    Participant

    sumac.carol: may i humbly suggest that someone is playing tiddlywinks with those numbers.

    remember, inflation is “under 2%”..

    #87481
    zerosum
    Participant

    Refugees under bridge

    I hope that the buses taking away the refugees to reception centers are not “cattle cars”

    #87482
    Bill7
    Participant

    tdk said: “sumac.carol: may i humbly suggest that someone is playing tiddlywinks with those numbers.”

    tdk, if you’re referring to this part: “..in Canada is the fact that it is non- vaccinated who are absolutely overwhelmingly getting sick enough to end up in hospital.” , I second tdk’s point.

    I’d be interested in solid data showing that it’s the unvaxxed getting sick. Until then..

    #87483
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    @ sumac.carol
    In Canada – from https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html#a2 :

    Cases following vaccination
    Data extracted on September 14, 2021 for cases from December 14, 2020 up until August 28, 2021.

    While the COVID-19 vaccines are effective, there is still a small percentage of the population who are vaccinated that will still be infected with COVID-19 if they are exposed to the virus that causes it. This means that even with high vaccine effectiveness, a small percentage of the population who are vaccinated against COVID-19 will still get sick and some may be hospitalized or even die as a result of their illness. It is also possible that a person could be infected just before or just after vaccination and still get sick. It typically takes about two weeks for the body to build protection after vaccination, so a person could get sick if the vaccine has not had enough time to provide protection.

    Anyway, … at least at my end of the woods – Calgary, Alberta – you just can’t determine what’s the count of hospitalized that are vaccinated. You ask, … answer always is “None of them!”. You ask your family doctor, you ask 811 Health Information desk, you ask a politico, … same answer. Yet, in my sons’s grocery store supermarket (about 350 employees), vaccinated people get sick, take time from work, … some end up in emergency.

    In the media, … there is that constant “Get a vaccine!” It’s true, … a typical message I get nowadays daily in my in-box reads:

    “Alberta is in a state of an of emergency. ICU’s are bursting at the seams mostly from unvaccinated. Casey you must let go of all your research and convictions and get yourself vaccinated. please! –” , …

    Pffit! to all of them, … my response.

    Best,

    F.S.

    #87484
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Australia just jilted France after only a few months ago declaring what great like-minded, freedom-loving friends we are. Now we’ve become yet more entangled in US affairs and US ambitions, yet more losses of independence and freedom.

    I’ll try to be even-handed in this brief analysis: maybe the Antipodean PTB really do foresee great dangers in our future and they really do think that insulting and angering France, and putting our free trade deal with the EU at risk, is an acceptable price to pay.

    Good grief, we’ve really poked the dragon now, the very dragon upon whose trade and commerce depends almost our entire national livelihood. China could bring us to our knees in a week simply by cutting off most trade with us. It would inconvenience them; it would crush us.

    Trouble with living on an island, even of continental size, is that there’s nowhere to go; no border guards to bribe to slip under the wire. I gave up my Norwegian citzenship decades ago. I wonder if they’d let me have it back?

    #87485
    zerosum
    Participant

    ” Yet, in my sons’s grocery store supermarket (about 350 employees), vaccinated people get sick, take time from work, … some end up in emergency.”

    …. and I’ll bet the doctors will say, ” It was not because of covid or the vaccine”

    #87487

    it is non- vaccinated who are absolutely overwhelmingly getting sick enough to end up in hospital.

    That would make Canada both the umpteenth country where this is reported, and the first where it’s actually true.

    #87488
    Noirette
    Participant

    Switzerland. —– A law was rapidly voted in by Parliament in 2020, giving emergency powers to the Federal Council re. COV19, empowering the Federation to order the Cantons to carry out xyz measures.

    The law included a section on —obligatory, mandated — compensation to biz. that had to close during lockdown, restaurants, bars, gyms, etc. plus helping out sport, culture, etc. All the lockdown etc. measures were ordered by previous extraordinary emergency laws by the Feds.

    The sum committed to the bail-out was roughly 35 billion CHF. (pop of Switz. 8.5 million.)

    It also provided a legal platform / springboard for Cantons to compensate ppl in dire straits; where I live, paid unemployment to illegal workers who could show they had worked for 3 months – not necessarily consecutive – in CH.

    It did not touch the Federal Council’s power to order sanitary or ‘health’ emergency measures, which are enshrined in the Constitution.

    It was immediately challenged, went to referendum, and garnered 60% approval in a popular vote, in June 2021.

    Ppl voted for it because of the financial compensation. Yet, the score against was very high, 40%. Against came mostly from: The Plateau (central CH), German-speaking ppl, Conservatives, Rurals, and the ‘populist’ right wing. (=> the categories that are usually used.)

    Almost everywhere there was at least a third of ppl who voted against, many did so contrary their personal financial interests. The People’s Party, VolksPartei (so called populist right), several associations, made no recommendations, took no positions, left the vote to ‘personal conscience.’ Nobody really knew what was going on… coming down.

    Now, a second referendum vote is coming up, on Nov. 28, 2021.

    It was launched by 3 associations, the most active, popular one, is *Friends of the Constitution*; together they collected about 180K signatures in 3 weeks, an absolute record they claim. Leaving out the details, a YES vote would annul the possibility of any implementation of a ‘green’ / ‘covid’ / ‘vax’ pass in any shape or form, and would forbid any discrimination / instituted differences between vaxxed / not, in all venues, circumstances.

    I’m not optimistic about the result, I hate to think about it and have held back from delving into analysis, a first for me… The MSM has been blaring: the vax will save us! That includes top radio stations (the Swiss are the biggest listeners of radio in the world it is claimed), all the MSM, etc.

    from swissinfo (eng) short descr. of the above.

    https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-covid-law-set-for-second-public-vote/46770472

    #87490
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    @ zerosum – …. and I’ll bet the doctors will say, ” It was not because of covid or the vaccine

    Well, … in Alberta at least, you can’t just go to your family clinic or your family doctor if you suspect COVID. This is strictly not permitted! Instead, you have to self-evaluate first! And if your self-evaluation (with a help from a telephone robot) strongly suggests COVID, your instruction is to isolate yourself. Yes! Stay put where you are for 14 days, … and in the meantime, if you sickness progresses to the point that you just can’t stand it anymore, … you are told to call 811 for a health consultation with a nurse. And if 811 nurse determines that you just might – might – need external intervention, … than you are instructed to call 911. 911, at that point, will scrutinize your call one more time and decide if indeed dispatch of ambulance is in order.

    Anyway, that’s how it all works, …

    F.S.

    #87491
    vivarta
    Participant

    This is my very first post on TAE (or any public forum). I have been a regular visitor of TAE for many years initially drawn to the macroeconomic issues discussed here. I have benefited greatly from all the posts and discussions during all these years, especially, the excellent coverage of the COVID-19 situation dismantling the official propaganda. I want to express my sincere thanks and gratitude to Raul, Germ, Doc Robinson, Dr. D, and every one else that has contributed so much useful information and analysis. I hope to make some useful additions to the analysis and discussion here. Btw, I am based in Seattle and have been working in the tech industry for 20+ years.

    Here is another proof-point of the real-world efficacy of Ivermectin: Uttar Pradesh is the most populous state in India with ~228M (2/3rd of US population) people, densely packed (likely the highest population density in India). It is also one of the poorest states in India. You would expect it to be teeming with COVID cases and deaths. On the contrary, It has been registering < 30 new COVID cases and < 1 death per day for the past several months. What did they do differently? Ivermectin. https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/lucknow/uttar-pradesh-government-says-ivermectin-helped-to-keep-deaths-low-7311786/

    What boggles my mind is why other states in the same country, let alone other countries, do not see these results and adopt this successful approach. 68% of the cases in India (around 30-40K per day) are reported from one southern state of Kerala, which as far as I know, has not been using Ivermectin. The rest of India is almost free of COVID.

    Unfortunately, the Indian government and media, continue to aggressively promote vaccination even though it has been reported that the antibodies from the two vaccines in use – Covaxin (home grown) and Covishield (same as Astrazeneca) do not last more than 2-3 months.

    #87492
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    “ Believers gonna believe.”

    That is what I am seeing. I managed to get dad to watch less than a couple of minutes of the “These patients deserve to heard “ video that Germ posted and that was all he would tolerate. His comment was that can’t be true. If it was it would be on the news.

    #87493
    vivarta
    Participant

    Here is another article that talks about the success that Uttar Pradesh has had with Ivermectin: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/huge-uttar-pradesh-india-announces-state-covid-19-free-proving-effectiveness-deworming-drug-ivermectin/

    #87494

    vivarta,

    We covered Uttar Pradesh and IVM extensively here. A simple search should do.

    #87495

    @ sumac.carol

    Fellow canuck ( S. On ) here. While personally upsetting at times, I live with a “true believer” . Even though I am judicious in which articles I forward on and suggest they are worth reading, I have found them categorically rejected.

    To her it is all about credibility. If m info comes from the nightly news or MSM papers, ok. Otherwise it’s from the crackpot internet, home to all wacko theories and so forth. The government and their agencies would never lie or ignore the real science!

    #87496
    zerosum
    Participant

    Capitol Hill
    I right.
    A few hundred people were outnumbered by security
    They went, “BOOOOOH”
    The gov demonstrated that they were afraid of the people.

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