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Israel Cannot Win – Jordan (RT)
Erdogan Blasts US For Blocking Gaza Peace Resolution (RT)
Israel Is Trying To Force Gazans Into Egypt – UN Official (RT)
Leadership In Kiev Has Gone ‘Totally Crazy’ – Putin (RT)
US Veteran Ridicules Claim That Russia Poses Threat to Europe (Sp.)
Zelensky’s Anti-Russian Narrative Faces Resistance in Latin America (Sp.)
German Chancellor Lying About Gas – Medvedev (RT)
Maduro’s Iron Fist: Why Would Venezuela Risk An All-Out War? (RT)
Hunter Biden Launches Attack on Elon Musk (RT)
Musk Wants Answers From Biden And Zelensky About Fate Of Gonzalo Lira (RT)
George Floyd: The Complete And Total Collapse Of Justice In America (Paul Craig Roberts)
Biden’s Clinton Defense: I Did Not Have Interactions with Those People (Turley)
Trump Not To Testify In Fraud Proceedings (TASS)
UK Tories Plotting Boris Johnson Comeback – Daily Mail (RT)
Al Gore: Access to Non-Mainstream Information ‘Threatens Democracy’ (MN)

 

 

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“The animosity created by the violence in Gaza will haunt the Middle East for generations..”

Israel Cannot Win – Jordan (RT)

Jordan’s foreign minister has claimed Israel cannot achieve military victory in Gaza and has already suffered a strategic defeat by alienating the entire region. Speaking on Sunday at the Doha Forum – an annual gathering of diplomats in the Qatari capital – Ayman Safadi said the goal of Israel’s operation against Hamas is to oust the Palestinian population, rather than to defeat the militant group. The destruction in Gaza in the past two months “is an indication of an Israeli policy that seems determined to expel the residents” of the enclave, he said, adding that top Israeli officials, including Minister of National Security Itamar Ben-Gvir and Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, have been quite candid about that intention.

Safadi brought up the Friday vote at the UN Security Council, in which the US vetoed a proposal by Arab nations urging for a humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza. It was the only vote against, with American ally the UK being the only member of the 15-strong body to abstain. The top Jordanian diplomat noted that despite the veto, Washington was publicly calling on Israel to change its military tactics. “Simply put, Israel is defying everyone – its allies, international law, and the United Nations,” he said. “Israel has created an amount of hatred that will haunt this region and that will define future generations. It harms its people as much as it affects everyone in the region.” This is a war Israel cannot win. Israel has already suffered a strategic defeat. The minister blamed Israel’s occupation of the Palestinian territories and systematic obstruction to the creation of a Palestinian state as the root cause of the hostilities.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who attended the event in Qatar via video link, remarked that the US has blocked several proposals for a ceasefire in Gaza at the UN. He called the unresolved status of Palestinian statehood the “single most dangerous factor igniting extremism in the Middle East.” Israel launched its military campaign in Gaza after Hamas fighters broke through the border wall on October 7 and raided several settlements and military bases in southern Israel. Israeli officials said over 1,200 people were killed as a result. The death toll in Gaza stood at more than 17,700 as of Sunday, as updated by the local health ministry. Around two-thirds of the Palestinians killed were women and children, the report noted.

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“A fair world is possible, but not with America..”

Erdogan Blasts US For Blocking Gaza Peace Resolution (RT)

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan criticized the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) on Saturday, stating that it has become a “protector of Israel” due to the influence of Washington. This statement followed the US blocking a resolution calling for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza. “Due to a veto by the US, no decision was reached. It’s essential for the UN Security Council to be reformed,” Erdogan stressed in his address at the World Human Rights Day event in Istanbul. The Turkish leader argued that the world extends beyond the five permanent members of the UNSC with veto power: China, France, Russia, the UK, and the US. Expressing disappointment in the UNSC, Erdogan, despite Türkiye being a NATO ally of the US, said, “We have lost our hope and expectation from the UN Security Council.”

Erdogan asserted that since October 7, when the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) initiated attacks on Gaza in response to an incursion by the Palestinian armed group Hamas that killed at least 1,200 people, the UNSC, “whose mission is to establish global peace, has turned into a protector of Israel.” “The Israeli administration, which has the unwavering support of Western countries, is committing murderous atrocities and massacres in Gaza that will make all humans blush… A fair world is possible, but not with America, because America sides with Israel,” the Turkish president insisted. According to the Gaza Health Ministry, the death toll from Israeli actions in the past two months stands at 17,700 people, with 48,800 others injured. Following the breakdown of a week-long humanitarian pause with Hamas, Israel resumed its military offensive in Gaza on December 1. The US vetoed the UNSC resolution for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire on Friday, with the vote in the 15-member council being 13-1 and the UK abstaining.

US Deputy Ambassador to the UN Robert Wood justified the move, stating that a halt in fighting would allow Hamas to maintain control of Gaza and “only plant the seeds for the next war.” Wood emphasized Washington’s preference for a “durable peace” based on a two-state solution, but he argued that Hamas has “no desire” for such an outcome. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu welcomed the US veto, asserting that “the correct stance [was] taken by the US.” He also criticized the UNSC members who supported the ceasefire, stating that it is impossible to both endorse the elimination of Hamas and call for an end to the war against the group. “Other countries should understand that it is impossible to both support the elimination of Hamas and call for an end to the war aimed at eliminating Hamas,” the PM said.

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“After the destruction of the north, the destruction of the south is ongoing, except this time, people have nowhere to go.”

Israel Is Trying To Force Gazans Into Egypt – UN Official (RT)

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) are setting the stage for the mass expulsion of Palestinians into Egypt while creating conditions that will make it impossible for them to ever return to their destroyed homes in Gaza, the UN’s Palestinian refugee agency chief has claimed. “The United Nations and several member states, including the US, have firmly rejected forcibly displacing Gazans out of the Gaza Strip,” UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) chief Philippe Lazzarini wrote on Saturday in a Los Angeles Times op-ed. “But the developments we are witnessing point to attempts to move Palestinians into Egypt, regardless of whether they stay there or are resettled elsewhere.” An Israeli Defense Ministry spokesman denied Lazzarini’s accusation, saying West Jerusalem has never had a plan to push Gazans into Egypt.

However, two Israeli lawmakers wrote last month in a Wall Street Journal op-ed that they would like to see countries around the world welcome Gazan refugees who choose to relocate. The Israel-Hamas war has driven more than 1.8 million Gazans from their homes, the largest forced displacement of Palestinians since 1948, Lazzarini said. Nearly 18,000 people have been killed in Gaza, and an Israeli study found that 61% of the people who perished in IDF airstrikes were civilians. The war began when Hamas launched surprise attacks against southern Israeli villages on October 7, killing around 1,200 people and taking hundreds of hostages back to Gaza. The Palestinian casualties have included more than 270 people who were sheltering in UNRWA facilities at the time they were killed.

Lazzarini said many of those shelters were in areas of central and southern Gaza that were thought to be safer than the north, where Israel’s bombing campaign was primarily focused. “The sad reality is that Gazans are not safe anywhere: not at home, not in a hospital, not under the UN flag, not in the north, middle, or south,” he added. The survivors are now besieged and holed up in a “tiny area” of southern Gaza, near the Egyptian border, Lazzarini said. Many are being left with only one option: Leaving the Palestinian enclave altogether. “Judging by policy and humanitarian discussions underway, it is hard to believe that the Palestinians of Gaza who are displaced today will be allowed –or even willing– to return to their destroyed homes anytime soon,” the UN official said.

If this path continues, leading to what many are already calling a second Nakba, Gaza will not be a land for Palestinians anymore.” A UN Security Council resolution that would have brokered a ceasefire in Gaza was vetoed by the US on Friday. President Joe Biden’s administration has claimed that the US is doing more than any other nation to help civilians in Gaza, but it’s also aiding the Israeli war effort. A CBS News poll released on Sunday found that only 20% of Americans believe that Biden is making a peaceful resolution to the conflict more likely.

Lazzarini said civilians are being used as pawns in the war, with Hamas abdicating all responsibility for their well-being to the UN and Israel inflicting “collective punishment” on the more than two million people of Gaza. The “meager” humanitarian supplies that Israel has allowed to trickle into the enclave have provided little relief, he added. “Bombardment and a tight siege are again creating conditions under which nothing more than mere survival is possible,” Lazzarini said. “The deprivation of humanitarian aid is key to this plan. After the destruction of the north, the destruction of the south is ongoing, except this time, people have nowhere to go.”

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“Have they gone completely crazy? Are they completely – how can I put it more bluntly – nuts?”

Leadership In Kiev Has Gone ‘Totally Crazy’ – Putin (RT)

Persistent persecution of ethnic Russians in Ukraine was one of the key reasons behind Moscow’s decision to launch its special military operation in that country, Russian President Vladimir Putin has said, adding that the Ukrainian authorities have since gone completely “crazy” in their policies. The president made the remarks earlier this week when he hosted distinguished servicemen at the Kremlin to award them Hero of Russia medals. Excerpts from Putin’s speech on the sidelines of the event were published by Russian journalist Pavel Zarubin on Sunday. “We would never have done anything like [the special military operation] if they had not started to destroy Russia in our historical territories, expel people from there, declared Russians a non-indigenous ethnic group in Ukraine.

Have they gone completely crazy? Are they completely – how can I put it more bluntly – nuts?” Putin told the medal recipients. The president was apparently referring to Ukraine’s Law On Indigenous Peoples, adopted in 2021. The legislation recognized only three ethnic groups – Crimean Tatars, Crimean Karaites and Krymchaks (Crimean Jews) – as the country’s indigenous peoples. The legislation denied indigenous designations to Russians, which amounted to at least one fifth of Ukraine’s population, according to various estimates, and to other minorities, such as the ethnic Hungarians and Belarusians who reside in the country’s west and north, respectively. Moreover, all three ethnic groups recognized by the ‘indigenous peoples’ law predominantly live in Crimea, which split from Ukraine in 2014 and joined Russia after a peninsula-wide referendum.

In addition to questionable ethnic policies, the Ukrainian leadership has been openly courting and honoring Nazis, Putin said, invoking a recent scandal in Canada’s House of Commons. The legislature celebrated Ukrainian-Canadian Yaroslav Hunka, a 98-year-old Waffen SS veteran, hailing him as a “Canadian hero” who’d “fought the Russians” during World War II. The whole body, with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky in attendance, engaged in a standing ovation to honor Hunka. “And who exactly fought Russians during the war? Nazis. Everyone knows that and the Ukrainian president knows that. The entire parliament stood up and applauded him. What is it, if not a manifestation of Nazism?” Putin asked, adding that a large proportion of Nazi atrocities were committed by Ukrainian nationalists who collaborated with them.

“They are not just fools, they are also neo-Nazis. It’s an obvious fact. They are ready to cooperate with just anyone to try and hurt Russia,” the president noted. The Hunka affair triggered a major international scandal, which led to the downfall of the House Speaker Anthony Rota, who accepted entire responsibility for inviting the Waffen SS veteran to the legislature. Russia has charged Hunka in absentia with genocide, claiming that archive documents serve as evidence that he and fellow SS Galicia members had killed at least 500 civilians in late February 1944, and Moscow is now seeking the extradition of the Nazi veteran.

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“..it’s ridiculous to believe that Russia wants to attack the West or re-create the USSR..”

US Veteran Ridicules Claim That Russia Poses Threat to Europe (Sp.)

US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin’s December 2 claim that Russia poses an immediate threat to Europe is absurd, according to retired Lt. Col. Daniel L. Davis, a senior fellow for defense priorities at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft. “[Austin] claims that all of Western Europe and NATO would be ‘directly threatened’ – this was the term that he used – if [Vladimir Putin] wins here and that’s just nonsense. That’s just absurd,” Davis said on Stephen Gardner’s podcast. “Why would he ever do it? (…) Everything [Putin] has done, everything he has said over the past 15 years is that he wants to protect his borders. They are historically afraid of Western incursions because Russia itself has been invaded many times throughout its history from the West.” Per Davis, it’s ridiculous to believe that Russia wants to attack the West or re-create the USSR, stressing that Austin is either “disingenuous or doesn’t know what he is talking about.”

According to Austin, “Ukraine matters profoundly to America and to the entire world. And it matters for four key reasons.” “First, Putin’s war poses a stark and direct threat to security in Europe and beyond,” the Pentagon chief claimed at the Reagan National Defense Forum. The second reason, argued Austin, is that Russia’s special military operation is “a clear challenge to [US] NATO allies.” The third is that Moscow’s actions are an attack on “democratic values and decency.” And finally, Russia’s special op is a “frontal assault on the international rules-based order,” according to him. But that is not all. Earlier this week, ex-Fox News host Tucker Carlson said on his podcast that Austin allegedly threatened to send lawmakers’ “uncles, cousins and sons to fight Russia” if Ukraine aid is not approved.

Commenting on the alleged threat, Davis highlighted that under the US Constitution the Pentagon chief has zero authority to send any combat troops to Ukraine. What’s more, any direct confrontation with Russia over Ukraine is not in the US national interest, the retired lieutenant colonel emphasized. “There is nothing in that war… the war is militarily unwinnable. We’ve been saying that since the outset of this war.” The military expert said that everything that has happened on the ground since the beginning of Kiev’s summer counteroffensive has validated his assumption.

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The West has lost the Global South. But Milei wants to support Ukraine. i.e. the US. Faux pas.

Zelensky’s Anti-Russian Narrative Faces Resistance in Latin America (Sp.)

Volodymyr Zelensky will attend the inauguration of president-elect Javier Milei. The Ukrainian president is seeking to strengthen ties with the Global South, but Kiev’s rapprochement with Buenos Aires won’t help him win the hearts and minds of Latin Americans, says an Argentine newspaper. Zelensky’s presence in Buenos Aires at the inauguration of Javier Milei’s government is apparently seen by Kiev as a PR coup aimed at restoring the Ukrainian president’s tarnished image as Western support for Ukraine wanes, according to Pagina 12, a left-leaning Argentine publication. “At this time, and due to the diminished support of the governments of the Atlantic alliance, Ukraine’s priority interest is to achieve the support of the countries of the Global South,” writes Daniel Kersffeld, Pagina 12 contributor.

According to Kersffeld, Zelensky’s greatest hope is to make Milei a strategic ally in the conflict against Russia, which would accept Kiev’s unrealistic “peace formula” during a Ukraine summit proposed by Milei. The scholar notes that Kiev also expects Buenos Aires to impose sanctions on Russia. Earlier, President-elect Milei signaled his full support for Zelensky in a clear break with the policy of his predecessor, Alberto Fernández. In late November, the new Argentine leader offered the Ukrainian president to hold a conference on Ukraine in the South American country. “They are organizing a peace conference in Latin America and Ukraine, and we have offered ourselves as a venue if it is appropriate,” Milei’s foreign policy adviser Diana Mondino told reporters last month.

Still, Zelensky’s biggest bet is that the new Argentine government – with Washington’s backing – will bring the governments of the region together and persuade them to support Zelensky and turn their backs on Russian President Vladimir Putin, Kersffeld added. Alas, “the Ukrainian government’s preaching against Moscow was never able to gain footing in the Latin American context, despite various mechanisms of enticement and political and economic pressure imposed by Washington which, among other aspects, sought to provide weapons to Ukraine or, directly, the breaking of relations with Russia,” the scholar underscored.

Despite ideological differences among Latin American governments, there is a consensus in the continent that it must be a “region of peace” and not interfere in overseas conflicts, Kersffeld stressed. “It would be very risky for Argentina to get involved in a foreign conflict not so much in search of peace, but to get a positive nod from Joe Biden’s administration,” the article’s author warned. Meanwhile, Zelensky’s biggest problem is that Kiev’s summer counteroffensive has yielded zero results on the battlefield and failed to achieve any of the Zelensky regime’s goals, making the West increasingly skeptical about pouring money into Ukraine and supporting its incumbent president, according to Kersffeld.

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“..They rejected it themselves, they screwed over their own people because of the hatred for Russia..”

German Chancellor Lying About Gas – Medvedev (RT)

Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy head of the Russian Security Council and the country’s ex-president, has accused German Chancellor Olaf Scholz of “lying” after the latter shared his take on the roots of the energy crisis in Europe. Speaking at a meeting of the ruling Social Democratic Party (SPD) in Berlin on Saturday, Scholz accused Russia and, personally, President Vladimir Putin of halting the gas supply to the EU. “It was the Russian president who stopped gas supplies through undamaged gas pipelines. Thus, 50% of Germany’s gas supply was called into question. 50 billion cubic meters of gas that went through them became inaccessible,” Scholz claimed during the event, hailing the government’s efforts to buy gas elsewhere. The remarks drew the ire of Medvedev, who took to the social media platform X, formerly Twitter, to flatly accuse the German chancellor of “lying” and trying to shift the blame for their own actions on Moscow.

“The German is lying through his teeth! They rejected it themselves, they screwed over their own people because of the hatred for Russia, and now they are dodging and lying!” While Scholz did not elaborate on the matter during his speech, he was apparently referring to the troubles around Nord Stream that unfolded last summer, shortly before the pipelines ended up being destroyed in a sabotage attack on September 26. At the time, Russian energy giant Gazprom was forced to drastically reduce gas deliveries through the pipelines owing to technical issues related to the maintenance of turbines for Nord Stream 1. The difficulties with servicing the turbines stemmed from Western sanctions on Russia, which effectively prevented the maintenance and timely delivery of spare parts.

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“..Where is Guaido now? He’s a political exile who rode on a failed dream and eventually joined the scrapheap of puppets used, abused and discarded..”

Maduro’s Iron Fist: Why Would Venezuela Risk An All-Out War? (RT)

The South American nation of Venezuela has purportedly voted overwhelmingly in a referendum to affirm its territorial claim to part of the neighboring nation of Guyana. Caracas, which was recently subject to an unsuccessful American regime change attempt to topple its leader Nicholas Maduro, argues the oil reach territory known as the Essequibo region was its own historically, but had it stolen away by the British Empire. Such grievances may be found all over the world. While an invasion of the region remains unlikely at this point, given the role of regional power Brazil and obvious opposition from the nearby US, it is a telling sign about the world today that Venezuela feels it can viably affirm its claims like that. Only a few years ago, the US imposed crippling sanctions on the country and appointed Juan Guaido as an “interim president.” Where is Guaido now? He’s a political exile who rode on a failed dream and eventually joined the scrapheap of puppets used, abused and discarded as Washington’s political preferences shift – the likely looming fate of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky.

But more to the point, it is an affirmation that the US-led world order is fragmenting and that American power is declining. This is paving the way for other countries to reshape the international order to address what are deemed to be historic grievances or injustices. The weakening of the unipolar political order’s ability to assert its authority presents a window for overt challenges to the status quo for nations that were previously unable to do so. In 1990, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein attempted to do the same, but massively miscalculated the shift towards American unipolar hegemony at the end of the Cold War, believing Washington did not have the will to fight. Seeking to rectify the perceived partition of Iraq by the British Empire and the creation of the Sheikdom of Kuwait, Saddam Hussein invaded and attempted to annex the Gulf State.

The US and its allies hit back with a powerful response, and George H.W. Bush famously proclaimed the objective of creating a “new world order.” His message was essentially that American hegemony was here, and that the US would now reshape the world on its own terms. That message was backed by the overwhelming use of military force, which crushed Saddam’s forces, opening the way to decades of unopposed US-led regime changes and wars, including in Iraq again. However, within those passing decades the world has changed. The US is no longer the only geopolitical force in town and the distribution of power has diversified. New actors, such as a resurgent Russia, China, India, and Iran, among others, have changed the geopolitical landscape towards multipolarity and because of this, other states may now find political space to make their own moves without suffering the same fate as Saddam Hussein.

The two wars of 2022-2023 have been instrumental in changing this. First of all, the US and its allies have not been able to muster the political will to defeat Russia in Ukraine or, as they had assumed, even crush the economy of the Russian Federation. Second, America’s support of Israel and its attempts to squeeze Iran have provoked a war in Gaza, with Hamas successfully sensing an opportunity to lure Israel into a destructive conflict which will crater its credibility and global standing for generations. As the US has become distracted by the emerging crises and seemingly unable to resolve them, Venezuela thus sees an opportunity to strengthen its hand by reaffirming its territorial claims over Guyana as a nationalism-driven bargaining chip.

Venezuela is not a major military power and its geographic location means that an attempt to forcibly occupy the Essequibo would be defeated, as the US is on its doorstep and would do everything it takes to crush hostile states in the western hemisphere. However, Washington’s failed regime change, combined with its need to negotiate sanctions relief due to the impact on global oil markets, mean its own hand against Caracas has shrunk, and the US is not in a position to crush Venezuela as of present. Even without the military dynamic, an extended territorial claim gives a country diplomatic leverage that it can use to extract concessions and assert its authority, just like China in the South China Sea, over Taiwan, or Russia incorporating a number of Ukrainian oblasts into its own territory. All these are part of a long list of historic problems which the given states have been unable to address before, held back by American hegemony, but we now live in a different world and because of that, the political map as we know it is changing.

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“..the “dumbest smart person I think that the world has ever known.”

Hunter Biden Launches Attack on Elon Musk (RT)

Hunter Biden, son of US President Joe Biden, has raised doubts about Elon Musk’s intellectual acumen, claiming the billionaire lacks regard for US democracy and freedoms. Biden also accused Musk of spreading “disinformation” about his personal life and business dealings. These comments followed one day after the US Department of Justice filed nine new tax-related charges against Biden, alleging that he had led an “extravagant lifestyle” while evading taxes. In an interview with musician-turned-podcaster Moby published on Friday, Hunter Biden expressed concern that criticisms from right-wing detractors could jeopardize his safety, citing a past attack on Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi’s husband, Paul, where the assailant mentioned Biden as a potential target. According to the 53-year-old, some people have come to view him as an “embodiment of evil” over his alleged wrongdoings that have circulated in the media, especially outlets affiliated with the political right.

Biden asserted that figures like Musk are amplifying narratives damaging to his reputation. “One thing about Elon Musk that I’m certain of is there’s another very damaged human being,” the president’s son told Moby, calling the billionaire the “dumbest smart person I think that the world has ever known.” The attorney-by-profession went on to say that “Elon Musk doesn’t care about the goddamn First Amendment… Elon Musk doesn’t care about democracy; Elon Musk doesn’t care about our freedom to vote.” Responding to these remarks on X (formerly Twitter) that same day, the entrepreneur replied: “Exactly what ‘misinformation’ is he talking about?” Musk quipped, “The dude made so many videos of himself doing crime that he should get an award for cinematography!” – an apparent reference to multiple videos and photos of Hunter that have emerged over the past few years, which depict him spending time with prostitutes and smoking crack cocaine.

Meanwhile, court documents suggest that the younger Biden son was “engaged in a four-year scheme to not pay at least $1.4 million in self-assessed federal taxes he owed for tax years 2016 through 2019.” A press release emphasized that his income would have allowed him to pay his taxes but that he had allegedly squandered the money on “drugs, escorts and girlfriends, luxury hotels and rental properties,” among other things. The charges include three felony and six misdemeanor tax offenses, potentially leading to a maximum sentence of 17 years if convicted on all counts. In addition to the tax case, Hunter Biden faces another legal challenge related to allegations of lying about his drug use during the purchase of a firearm. He has also dealt with previous misdemeanor tax-related charges. The combination of legal issues has put the president’s son under significant public scrutiny.

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The White House wanted Lira arrested and disappeared. Ukraine had already picked him up twice and let him walk. When Lira went after Biden and Kamala, who he called stupid, they saw a chance to get rid of him and blame it on Zelensky. An American citizen. Lived his whole life in America, as per his dad.

Musk Wants Answers From Biden And Zelensky About Fate Of Gonzalo Lira (RT)

Elon Musk has addressed US President Joe Biden and his Ukrainian counterpart Vladimir Zelensky about the status of US-Chilean journalist and critic of the Kiev government Gonzalo Lira, who remains under arrest in Ukraine since summer. On Saturday, US political commenter Tucker Carlson published an interview on X (formerly Twitter) with Lira’s father, who said that his son is currently awaiting trial in Ukraine “because he was exercising his right of freedom of speech.” According to Gonzalo Lira Senior, the US embassy “haven’t done a thing” for the detained American passport holder, who is being defended by a court-appointed Ukrainian lawyer with no knowledge of the English language. In his comment on the interview, Musk wondered how it was possible that “an American citizen is in prison in Ukraine after we sent over a $100 billion” to support Kiev amid its conflict with Russia.

“Is there more to this story than simply criticizing Zelensky? If that’s all it is, then we have serious problem here,” the SpaceX and Tesla CEO posted on X. Carlson responded to the message, by saying that the “crime” committed by Lira, who is an author of several novels and a filmmaker with Hollywood experience, was “saying unapproved things.” On Sunday, Musk also addressed the issue on his own account, writing: “What is the status of this American journalist, Joe Biden?” The post included a link to Lira’s last post on X before his third arrest by the Ukrainian authorities in early August. In his message, the journalist said that he was about to cross from Ukraine into Hungary in search of a political asylum. “Either I’ll cross the border and make it to safety, or I’ll be disappeared by the Kiev regime,” he warned followers.

When addressed on the issue by Strana.ua news outlet, a spokesman for Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) confirmed that Lira had been arrested on the border with Hungary. The US journalist is currently in custody in Ukraine’s second largest city Kharkov, with the court being scheduled to consider his case on December 12 and 21, he added. According to the spokesman, Lira violated Ukrainian law as he “systematically justified” Russia’s actions in Ukraine and “disseminated pro-Russian views on his social media accounts.” In his videos he “also claimed that the Ukrainian Armed Forces were shelling their own territory, while a neo-Nazi regime reigned in Ukraine,” the spokesman stated. Lira, who had been living in Kharkov since the mid-2010s, was actively covering Russia’s military operation in the country from its very start in February 2022. He said that it was a tragedy for Ukraine and its people, whom he loved, but stressed that the conflict had been provoked by the Zelensky government and its Western backers. Among other things, the journalist argued that Ukraine had no chance of winning against Russia and predicted the failure of the sanctions against Moscow.

He also decried attempts by Western media to portray Ukraine as a democracy, speaking about corruption in the government and publishing a list of Zelensky’s opponents who, he claimed, had been “disappeared” by the Kiev authorities. Lira was first arrested by the SBU in April 2022 but released without charge a week later as the story made international headlines. The 55-year-old continued his reporting and, in May, was again taken into custody, in this instance accused of “producing and distributing materials justifying the armed aggression” by Russia against Ukraine. On August 1, the journalist briefly reemerged on social media, posting several videos in which he said that he had been released on bail and was trying to flee to neighboring Hungary in order to avoid a lengthy prison term. He hasn’t been heard from since then.

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“..Chauvin’s frame up was a product of the intimidating violence Democrats and media encouraged and justified..”

George Floyd: The Complete And Total Collapse Of Justice In America (Paul Craig Roberts)

Derek Chauvin was convicted on the basis of false evidence. His conviction rested on a video taken at an angle that produced a misleading view. As I reported at the time, up close police videos showed Chauvin’s knee was on Floyd’s shoulder, an approved restraint illustrated in the approved police practices handbook. This information was buried under constantly repeated showings by the irresponsible and witch-hunting American media of the video which from the angle it was taken made Chauvin’s knee on Floyd’s shoulder look like it was on Floyd’s neck.. The three officers, Alexander Kueng, Thomas Lane, and Tou Thao (a black, a white, and an Asian) convicted along with Chauvin were simply convicted for being present on the scene. As I pointed out at the time, Chauvin was indicted and convicted by the irresponsible American media with endless repetition of “Derek Chauvin had his knee on Floyd’s neck for 9 minutes despite Floyd’s plea ‘I can’t breathe.’”

This was a lie. Chauvin was convicted by a lie. I remember when it was a cause for moving a trial to a neutral or objective location or even for dismissal of the charges if media or public officials said a defendant was guilty prior to conviction by a jury. The reason was the media would have polluted the jury pool with the idea that the defendant was guilty. In Chauvin’s case the Minneapolis city government further polluted the jury pool by awarding Floyd’s family $27 million dollars in damages prior to the trial. I do not know whether the ban against conviction in the media has been repealed or become a dead letter requirement or whether it was just suspended in Chauvin’s case. Intimidation also played a role in the wrongful conviction of Chauvin. The Black Lives Matter riots, which the Democrats permitted, encouraged and justified, convinced prosecutors, judges, and jurors that a guilty verdict was required whatever the facts of the case or there would be more looting and burning.

It is clear that Judge Cahill withheld exculpatory evidence from being presented to the jury. He was an asset to the prosecution and enabled Chauvin’s wrongful conviction. I also reported at the time that the coroner’s report stated that Floyd’s blood contained a higher dose of fentanyl than is normally required to kill a person. This evidence played no role in the trial of Chauvin. I also reported the autopsy report’s conclusions that there were no injuries to Floyd’s neck and that Floyd had heart problems that would make his death likely under the influence of drugs. Chauvin’s frame up was a product of the intimidating violence Democrats and media encouraged and justified and of the prosecution and judge’s withholding of exculpatory evidence. It was also a product of years of media reports emphasizing gratuitous police violence against blacks. The same police violence was used against whites, but the media only reported the instances where blacks were the victims.

Some experts attributed the police violence to the Israeli firms that were hired to train US police, pointing out that in Israel police are trained to deal with terrorists, not with ordinary crimes. The years of media emphasis left a negative image of police. The misrepresentation of George Floyd’s death has even intimidated the US Supreme Court which refused to hear Chauvin’s evidence-based appeal. One consequence of Chauvin’s wrongful conviction is that media, Democrats, and Black Lives Matter have learned that they can use violence and intimidation to convict the accused, thereby decreasing the importance of evidence. Another consequence is that policing in Minneapolis is dead. Forty-four percent of the force resigned.

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“..the House has interviews, documents, photos and even audiotapes contradicting Biden’s continuing denial of having any knowledge of his son’s financial dealings.”

Biden’s Clinton Defense: I Did Not Have Interactions with Those People (Turley)

With a formal House vote on an impeachment inquiry expected next week, President Joe Biden was confronted this week about his knowledge and involvement in alleged influence peddling by his son and brothers. An irate Biden seemed to morph into Bill Clinton and — echoing his predecessor’s “I did not have sex with that woman” denial of an earlier scandal — effectively declared that he did not have relations with “those people.” As with Clinton, the denial was absurd, even insulting. Roughly 70% of voters (including 40% of Democrats) believe Biden has acted either unlawfully or unethically in the overseas business dealings of his family. More importantly, the House has interviews, documents, photos and even audiotapes contradicting Biden’s continuing denial of having any knowledge of his son’s financial dealings.

This includes testimony from Hunter Biden’s associates that Joe Biden called in as many as 20 times (and was put on speakerphone) at dinners and meetings with Hunter’s associates. It also includes sworn testimony from figures like Hunter’s ex-associate, Tony Bobulinski, that he discussed dealings directly with Joe Biden. And it includes a statement by Devon Archer, Hunter’s close friend and business partner, that the president’s denials of knowledge were “categorically false.” Yet, according to the president, it is all lies, lies, lies. When finally confronted this week about interacting with these associates, Biden barked back, “I did not and it’s just a bunch of lies. They’re lies. I did not. They’re lies.”

It may become Biden’s “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” moment, a line that is likely to be repeated with the same frequency as Clinton’s denial before being impeached in 1998. In the face of a formal vote for an impeachment inquiry, Biden is sticking with the same rhetorical chest-poking done by his predecessor. Despite the photos of Clinton with Lewinsky and his long history of womanizing, Clinton expected the media and the public to ignore their lying eyes. The Starr investigation and impeachment forced his hand in eventually admitting the obvious. The Bidens have their own vices, of course, but it seems the family signature has been influence peddling. It appears to have been, as I have written previously, virtually a family business.

Like Clinton, however, Biden is in a bind. He spent the last election categorically denying any knowledge or involvement in Hunter’s business dealings. He continues those denials despite evidence that Hunter discussed these dealings with his father and used Air Force 2 as transport to work on foreign clients during official trips with his father. For years, much of the media refused to acknowledge the authenticity of the emails on Hunter’s abandoned laptop. Yet, in the last year, many have reached the limit of plausible deniability and now acknowledge that Hunter was involved in a multimillion-dollar influence-peddling scheme. The final line of defense has become that Joe Biden did not directly benefit. Even now, some are frantically joining Biden in calls for blind denials.

Rep. Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) has even doggedly maintained that the laptop may really be Russian disinformation, despite confirmation of its content by witnesses, government investigators, and several media organizations. It won’t work. Biden clearly lied when he denied knowledge of his son’s business operations, and he has continued to lie during his presidency. Moreover, besides the benefits to his family (which would legally constitute benefits in criminal cases), there are references in Hunter’s emails to giving his father income, paying bills, and using shared accounts and credit cards. Now, the National Archives is finally turning over tens of thousands of emails, including many in which Joe Biden reportedly used false names in communicating with Hunter’s associates. And various key figures, including Hunter, face testimony or contempt proceedings. Thus, Biden is caught in a trap of his own making.

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Might as well let real estate insiders do the talking.

If Engoron and Letitia really want to go with a $26 million valuation of Mar-a-Lago, by all means let them make fools of themselves.

Trump Not To Testify In Fraud Proceedings (TASS)

Ex-US President Donald Trump made the decision not to testify before a New York court in proceedings on fraud when appraising assets of the Trump Organization. The ex-President was expected to arrive in New York and speak before the court on Monday, December 11. “I have already testified to everything & have nothing more to say other than that this is a complete & total election interference (Biden campaign!) witch hunt, that will do nothing but keep businesses out of New York,” Trump wrote on his page in the Truth Social network. “I will not be testifying on Monday,” he added. The Office of the New York State Attorney General sent its action against Trump and Trump Organization to court in September 2022. The Attorney General of the State alleged that the company had overstated the asset value for more comfortable terms of loans and insurance. The defense insists that claims are ungrounded and the property value may change over time due to different reasons.

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“..an ‘Advent calendar of sh*t.’”

UK Tories Plotting Boris Johnson Comeback – Daily Mail (RT)

Tory rebels are considering a plan to “crash” UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s Conservative government and reinstall Boris Johnson as leader as concerns rise over flagging poll figures and surging support for the opposition Labour Party ahead of an expected general election next year, according to the Daily Mail. Amid the high-profile cabinet departures of former Home Secretary Suella Braverman and Immigration Minister Robert Jenrick, Sunak’s authority over Tory ranks is set to be further tested this week when he faces a pivotal vote over his flagship Rwanda migrant-handling plan. Citing anonymous Conservative MPs, the Daily Mail wrote on Saturday that Tory insiders are urgently attempting to address a growing revolt – with peerages being offered to possible rebels to convince them to toe party lines.

The tabloid claims that disgruntled Tories will increasingly seek to “crash” the Sunak government with a series of Commons votes and outspoken interventions, which the newspaper’s sources said is crudely referred to as an ‘Advent calendar of sh*t.’ Furthermore, the outlet cites anonymous sources as saying there is a belief within the party that Johnson – who stood down as prime minister in September 2022 – is the only person who possesses the necessary skills to pose a challenge to Labour leader Keir Starmer. The newspaper also notes that the Reform Party, the successor to Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party, is siphoning votes that might otherwise have gone to the Conservatives – with a so-called Johnson/Farage “dream ticket” being floated. It also notes that Farage’s appearance on a popular UK reality television series has bolstered support for the Brexit architect.

Johnson, who is a columnist for the Daily Mail, did not elaborate on his possible political ambitions when contacted by the newspaper. A spokesperson for Farage, who, like Johnson, is not currently an MP, said that any political alliance between the two would “soon end in tears.” “Reform are going to kill us,” the newspaper cites an anonymous Tory MP as saying. “We have to buy Farage off. The plan is we get him into the Lords, give him some brief like we did with [David] Cameron – maybe even home secretary – then go to the country with the ‘Dream Team.’” Another possibility for a post-Sunak scenario, per the Mail, would be for Johnson ally and former Home Secretary Priti Patel to be appointed as temporary PM while Johnson seeks a ‘safe’ seat in the election – after which he would hypothetically return to Downing Street. Recent polling has indicated that Labour holds a commanding lead over the Tories ahead of the next general election, which must take place before January 2025.

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“..Gore has a storied history of making climate change predictions that turn out to be spectacularly wrong. No wonder he wants to ban dissent.”

Al Gore: Access to Non-Mainstream Information ‘Threatens Democracy’ (MN)

Al Gore says that people having access to information outside of mainstream media sources is a threat to “democracy” and that social media algorithms “ought to be banned.” Yes, really. Gore made the comments during an appearance at the Cop28 climate change hysteria conference in Dubai. Gore whined that social media had “disrupted the balances that used to exist that made representative democracy work much better.” The former Vice President said that functioning democracy relied on a “shared base of knowledge that serves as a basis for reasoning together collectively” but that “social media that is dominated by algorithms” upsets this balance. According to Gore, people are being pulled down “rabbit holes” by algorithms that are “the digital equivalent of AR-15s – they ought to be banned, they really ought to be banned!”

Gore claimed, “It’s an abuse of the public forum” and that people were being sucked into echo chambers. “If you spend too much time in the echo chamber, what’s weaponized is another form of AI, not artificial intelligence, artificial insanity! I’m serious!” he added. Apparently, the only echo chamber that should be allowed to exist is Gore’s own rabbit hole, wherein the earth is constantly on the brink of destruction thanks to people not obeying his technocratic mandates. Perhaps Gore is unhappy at his own misinformation being fact checked by individuals who have access to information not produced by corporate media sources that are friendly to him. Gore infamously predicted that the north polar ice cap would be “ice free” within 5 to 7 years. It never happened. As Thomas Cartenacci documents, Gore has a storied history of making climate change predictions that turn out to be spectacularly wrong. No wonder he wants to ban dissent.

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    MC Escher Still life and street 1937   • Israel Cannot Win – Jordan (RT) • Erdogan Blasts US For Blocking Gaza Peace Resolution (RT) • Israel Is
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle December 11 2023]

    #148228
    oxymoron
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    This one is for the Russia hopeful types of which I can at times fool myself into being. Seems they love climate agenda and biodigital surveillance as much as the Chatham House types. Damn those Usians.

    https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/russias-friendliest-bank-will-help?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=520963&post_id=139679579&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=nv8me&utm_medium=email

    Perhaps I’m becoming America hopeful?

    #148229
    oxymoron
    Participant

    I will say over the years I have come to hate the American project of expansion and hegemony but deeply appreciate the American spirit or Ideal. It’s contrast has shown me the beautiful side of what haunts my Australian spirit – which clings to a variable and unreliable climate and withered geology – old and slow to move. This is why our spirit is less courageous and more co-operative. We are a kangaroo and an emu. The US is the Eagle.
    We are less independent. We can’t go it alone here. We will die. The rain will stop or the desert will appear and the soil is hard and low in fertility (I’m abstracting for the sake of spirit or ‘sense’).

    The tale of the White hats and their fight for independence has drag on its wings now as it seeks to fly again. The drag of the enclosures act. Of the comfort trap. Of the slings and arrows volleyed from the old world of Europe.
    I want America to be Josey Wales after he has killed enough and lost enough to know life is worth risking death.

    Josey Wales meets Comanche chief 10 bears.

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    oxymoron
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    #148234
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Posting this for run for the hills via email as his comment wont load for some reason…

    Has anyone not been hypnotised by Ukraine, Israel v Palestine ?

    I heard today the US Securities and Exchange Commission on January 02 2024, whilst the populace is hungover from holiday season, are going to a vote allowing Natural Asset Corporations.

    If this happens, what I have been talking with friends about “The Enclosures Act 2.0” will be let out of Pandora’s box.

    Here is an older article that gives a good overview of where this is heading.

    Have to admit I’m stumped by trying to keep up with the myriad of insane legislation and law being enacted currently, let alone working out strategies of how to counter them.

    My friends and family are sick of hearing about Covid, Carbon, NACs, the alphabet soup etc etc.

    I have not shut up and work hard at opening peoples eyes as effectively as I can.

    I do not post often, this is my 2nd post thus far.

    Glad to find an island of sanity out there.

    TAE members collectively have way more in common to loose, than we have in difference of opinions.

    We are all trying to fight the Blob of GloboCap in our own way.

    Thank you to those I disagree with and thank you to those I agree with.

    At least we are generally civil to each other on TAE.

    Remember, Your Enemies Enemy is Your Friend………..

    Natural Asset Companies and the plan to financialize the commons

    #148235
    Run for the hills
    Participant

    Cannot post tonight, thanks Oxy for posting on my behalf !
    If this gets through, buggered if I understand how WP functions, more fickle than the wind, Oxy’s post was a straight copy and paste from this submission window to his.

    #148236
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Jewish antizionist pamphlet: Yes now only if like Americans they didn’t have 70% of their people for the wars and colonialism. Everyone was similarly on the Christians who apparently thought Jesus would bomb Baghdad.

    But since it’s a big ad campaign, you have to start somewhere, and as you go add objectors. Celente’s “Occupy Peace” was the biggest failure since failures. People in America — or at least NY — don’t want anything to do with peace.

    “Alex Jones says Deep State will take out Trump | Tucker Carlson”

    Trump AND Tucker Carlson, or Trump said ON Tucker Carlson? Anyway, yeah, time for a small plane crash. Heck, if I were Trump, I’d stage one! Did JFK Jr? There sure were a lot of weird facts surrounding his crash during the Senate race vs Clinton, — who never set foot in NY – who then had to have that seat to be a plausible President candidate on schedule.

    “Jordan’s foreign minister has claimed Israel cannot achieve military victory in Gaza and has already suffered a strategic defeat by alienating the entire region.”

    I’m certain this is true but don’t know why, as it needs to express itself physically somehow. Like, if they were boycotting Israel and shutting off imports, that would all make sense, right? They’re not, so how is this very true thing going to happen?

    Couldn’t be better that the U.S. Vetoes, since now we all know what the Americans and Biden Administration are. The UN is finally finding a f—k to give, having like 200 UN employees killed there, the greatest number by orders of magnitude. Now they’re a completely corrupt, feckless, pointless bureaucracy of paid actors, but they’re small enough to know each other and all think alike. Worse for us, they and the world are almost more mad at the United States than the are at Israel who is actually doing the bombing. I understand that, though I can’t articulate the logic. It’s like the Joker: Israel being this way is fine since it’s part of “The Plan.” They’re mad the U.S. isn’t playing their part of pretending to care while authorizing and funding it, not that 10,000 kids were killed. We know every day with every breath nobody cares about that, Jordan.

    Anyway, can the world FINALLY stop listening to and stop obeying us, for the love of f—-ing God? Did we not TELL you to, from 2016 on? Did we not demonstrate you should have, on your own, as your own idea, since 2002? THIS is what it takes for you to stop, Really? IF ONLY you had showed some spine before now, Africa, Global South, Israel couldn’t have got there bc the U.S. influence would have been already cut off. America First has been TRYING to cut it off and go home, but you just keep obeying like colonists. If you keep handing us hundred billions and obeying, OBVIOUSLY we can’t stop: the money flows will have their own reality. People enriched are not cut off and can maintain their influence and lobbying. You know this: everybody knows this; it’s not some super-secret 5D strategy.

    Anyway, so although we told you, if this is what it takes then fine, whatever. It is a global world war after all and people get killed. Please next time try to find your balls and get the lead out of your -ss so your comrades don’t get killed.

    “• Erdogan Blasts US for Blocking Gaza Peace Resolution (RT)

    Good. Please Turkey can you break NATO and DO something for a change? We exist so people can point to and blame us for every problem in the world when YOU OBEY OUR EVERY IDIOT ORDER. Then it’s OUR fault. When does it become YOUR fault for following illegal orders? I don’t think a Court Marital would let you walk, Turkey, Niger, Oman, UAE, whoever. So we’re so bad they let us have our largest Naval base outside the U.S. in their country? Oh, yeah, I guess they’re totally, totally mad at us and Israel. NOT!

    Like Europe driving us around, we exist to be blamed. Tell me how that works for us. America is at like 50% poverty line.
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/opinion/the-destruction-of-the-american-middle-class-5540320

    Since money-printing went into permanent high gear after the dotcom crash in 2000, the top 1 percent of households have gained $20 million each in inflation-adjusted net worth.

    during the last 22 years the median real annual wage has risen by only 14.5 percent or just $235 per annum.

    In relative terms, these annual wealth gains for the top 1 percent were 4,250X larger than the median real wage gain and 17,000X larger for the top 0.1 percent.

    “median annual wage for 2022 was just slightly above $40,000, and that by definition half of the nation’s 172 million workers with wage records earned less than that amount. To be exact, 84.5 million workers posted annual earnings of $40,000 per year or less in 2022, with an average annual earnings level of just $17,900.

    That’s right. The average worker in the bottom half of the wage distribution generated earnings that do not even remotely support a middle-class living standard. In fact, this figure amounts to only 65 percent of the Federal poverty line for a household of 4 persons ($27,750) and is barely above the $14,580 poverty level for a single person household.

    In other words, the overwhelming bulk of the 84.5 million workers in the bottom half of the wage distribution pulled in paychecks over the course of 2022 which were below or just above the Federal poverty line!

    That is to say, the U.S. economy is badly broken, yet you do not hear a peep from either wing of the Uniparty.” –Stockman

    Oh yeah, “America” is dong this to Europe or Palestine or Ukraine because…reasons? Because NOT ONE AMERICAN benefits from it. HALF the country is at the poverty line. We’re clearly going backward at the speed of light.

    Or maybe, just maybe, the whole system has been hijacked like a pirate ship, Americans have NOT been voting for these people while their incomes were cut in half, and WE are being extracted and murdered by the same people as fast as anyone on earth outside of Gaza? Maybe?

    Let me get this straight: The Mayor of Chicago was put in jail for corruption, but there wasn’t any corruption in Chicago. Nope. It was just one man, and certainly corrupt people who run Black Sites for decades and forced confessions like no place outside of Israel would definitely, NEVER have voter fraud. …Despite being the center of voting fraud since they incorporated as a city, and famously in 1960, 64, 68…? Nope! The people of Chicago just LOVE this and vote for it yearly of their own volition, freely and fairly. Please daddy, shoot me, pick me up with a bag over my head to your black sites and torture me in a warehouse.

    Or maybe people DON’T want this, and maybe the elections aren’t exactly fair? Maybe? Maybe just this one time there’s not one cockroach?

    Anyway, have to cut off the money to stop it. Saying “No” cuts off the money. In Chicago, in Africa, or in Ukraine. None of that money ends up “here”, with anyone outside the Beltway. They are colonial overlords, not a government.

    “The legislation denied indigenous designations to Russians, which amounted to at least one fifth of Ukraine’s population”

    Sure, Ukraine was going to do a Gaza on them, and become the “Israel of Europe”. They openly said so. They didn’t say it in the same sentence, but what’s the difference?

    “The entire parliament stood up and applauded [Nazis]. What is it, if not a manifestation of Nazism?”

    NPR will tell you it isn’t. There are no Nazis in Ukraine, just because they have brigades, flags, tattoos, handshakes, holidays, and posters: it’s a Right Wing Talking point. One that the NY Times reported for 10 years before denying it ever happened. “Advocacy Journalism” Upton Sinclair would be very proud. You’re definitely supporting the Underdog and Speaking Truth to Power everytime you join with the entire state and all corporations for a genocide.

    “They are historically afraid of Western incursions because Russia itself has been invaded many times throughout its history from the West.”

    It’s not JUST that. It’s that every 80 years the West goes nuts like clockwork and tries to murder Russia. Not “This might happen” the way China has been taken by Mongolians once or twice. How many centuries do they have to run a genocide before Russia gets to say there’s a pattern here? Nope, Putin’s “paranoid” a “madman”, “nuts.”

    “1. First, Putin’s war poses a stark and direct threat to security in Europe and beyond,”
    2. “Russia’s special military operation is “a clear challenge to [US] NATO allies.”
    3. The third is that Moscow’s actions are an attack on “democratic values and decency.”

    Really? Hooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww? HOW? How are they a threat at all? How are they a challenge? How are they an attack on an abstraction, in a nation that has zero features of that abstraction: no elections, no parties, no press?

    Yet living here I can tell you if you say that paragraph, almost everyone will nod their heads in mild consent.

    “There is nothing in that war… the war is militarily unwinnable.”

    OBAMA said on camera Ukraine would remain “Russia”(sphere) because “Russia has escalation dominance” there and such a war is an impossible non-starter. Yet we did this when we, he, and everyone clearly knew must lose? Huh. Funny world. WHY?

    Because Europe was collapsing and needed this or die? And the U.S. is merged and does whatever they say? And the White Hats were like fine, let Russia utterly destroy Europe, get them off our back and save us the trouble? No? Then what’s your theory, because the official one makes no sense.

    “But Milei wants to support Ukraine. i.e. the US. Faux pas.”

    Melei is a joker but note everywhere it matters, he’s pro-US, pro-West, pro-(outdated)status quo. Can we see why everyone magically stepped aside and let this (fake) resistance candidate in? We’ll see, but…

    Everyone said this about Trump: THEY should have run a fake Trump candidate and got the massive “We hate your DC guts” F-You, Michael Moore vote. Obama was that, but in the previous cycle. Ramaswamy may be that now. And I’m not saying Melei or Ramaswamy are aware of it, just that they can be worked with enough compared to the alternatives, meaning the controllers are clearly in rear-guard action.

    The people aren’t buying it, in America anyway. And good. They set up DeSantis, LET him do these things for Florida, make a lot of noise as a sacrifice and cost-to-play to put him in the Presidency and displace Trump. …Until he opened his mouth. Ramaswamy is probably the same. But we’re taking them ONLY AS THEY’RE USEFUL and do what we want. And good, right? Isn’t that Democracy? I didn’t hire your name, I hired you for a JOB. Fix my plumbing or whatever, I don’t care about your religion or your home life, it’s not why I hired you. DO WHAT YOU’RE TOLD. By me, the People. Catchy, huh?

    Argentina didn’t have those cycles yet it seems. This is the first breakout, not having an Obama and Trump and DeSantis first.

    “partition of Iraq by the British Empire and the creation of the Sheikdom of Kuwait, Saddam Hussein invaded and attempted to annex the Gulf State.”

    Maybe. But a couple of things here: HW Bush TOLD HIM it was okay to invade. Officially. On paper. And he may not have wanted to conquer it, but needed leverage as HW Bush’s oil pals got in the high-tech drilling that was going sideways and stealing all the Iraqi oil over the border. So invading would be good leverage to simply make Kuwait stop this outrageous, multi-billion bank heist. Who would think over this nothingburger HW would try to fabricate a world War out of pure Bernays? Well, HW was clever and good at his job like that. Stealing and killing savant.

    “The US and its allies hit back with a powerful response, and George H.W. Bush famously proclaimed the objective of creating a “new world order.”

    This part is correct and it was their coming-out party. Not no one could stop them either. He wasn’t wrong. He was using Iraq as a test case of the size of nation they could destroy at will lookin’-at-you-Nigeria and Libya. Just like Reagan making a show in Grenada or wherever “He’s crazy and will attack anything”. That’s true, it worked, and DID set the new page he hoped it would. We were all against it and said so a the time. Hey buddy? Where’s your declaration of War? Where’s your premise? Where does your war stop and we close it? “Shuddap youse.” Uh-huh. And so with no declaration of war WERE we America bled white and DID it start to trample all rights here at home? Yeah. I take checks or cash for being right again. Ya dummies. How can you not see this coming? “Oh but DADDY will never ABUSE his power.” Oh. My. God.

    “First of all, the US and its allies have not been able to muster the political will to defeat Russia in Ukraine or, as they had assumed, even crush the economy of the Russian Federation.”

    Okay, HW and his “New World Order” – which he never said, but he said 100 times, but he didn’t MEAN what he said when he meant what he didn’t say — but if he said it, it’s a good thing – got it? Good. He had a “coming out party”, and now we need a “going in” party or whatever you’d call it. We need another EVENT, played out, PROVING it’s safe and the Yanks are going home. Thus: “ the US and its allies have not been able to muster the political will” … or any shells at all.

    This is what it takes. Sorry. I’m sorry you were in the war that allowed YOU to become brave and send us home at last. We told you to before, but that was only words.

    Hunter “has raised doubts about Elon Musk’s intellectual acumen, claiming the billionaire lacks regard for US democracy and freedoms.”

    Hunter hates African Americans, I guess. Says they’re lazy and stupid. I think that should be the headline.

    Please you two: please stay in the top of the media, demonstrating daily Hunter’s millions of felonies. …And that Elon is a douche who should be restrained by law and we should never trust billionaires regardless of who they are.

    “This was a lie. Chauvin was convicted by a lie. “

    It was clearly a lie and easy to know that. Everyone loved the lie, so there we are. They got their Feelz and sleep like a baby at night for it. That’s the measure of America at this point, and we’ll need to change that somehow, like HW, with actions that get us to say no, prefer the truth, and prove it.

    BTW, anyone got on Chauvin and Floyd knew each other for years, but sorta acted like they never met this day? How does that work exactly? What’s with Floyd’s coffin, a 6-6”, 300lb man lifted light as a feather? What’s up?

    “• UK Tories Plotting Boris Johnson Comeback – Daily Mail (RT)

    Boris Johnson left? Because he was/is/has been flying around the world doing negotiations as Prime Minister the whole time. How’s that possible? Don’t the two valet and scullery maid PMs get mad and want to do something about this guy impersonating the Prime Minister? Nope. Not a peep. That implies to me Boris isn’t PM either, all three of them are run from above, but who is that guy and what does he want? Mr. Global.

    “Al Gore says that people having access to information is a threat to “democracy”

    Fixed it. And that totally makes sense! …In #OppositeLand. Where an uninformed voter is the perfect Democracy!

    “According to Gore, people are being pulled down “rabbit holes” by algorithms that are “the digital equivalent of AR-15s”

    Whut? The Actual? It’s very clear the algos are wildly, totally, over-the-top, almost unusuable pro-state, pro-status quo. It’s in the Twitter files, in the Federal records, in NY Times articles, the algo always does the #Opposite of this. Everywhere, every hour, on every platform. If there’s naughty information, fine, but the “algo” is a non-sequitur of non-sequiturs. AND he knows this. AND we know this. And He knows that we know, that he knows, that we know. …Who is he talking to?

    “artificial insanity! I’m serious!” “I’m Serial, guys! ManBearPig.” But anyway, WHO is this guy again? Has he done something important that I should recognize him by name? Maybe he was Prime Minister under MissTrust or something.

    “To date, the [covid] inquiry has spent over £70 million”

    Well yeah, like a special prosecutor, everytime they run into somebody who knows something, they have to bribe him off. That takes a lot of money when you’ve killed 10 million people.

    “Andrew Bridgen’s hearing on COVID in the UK Parliament on Dec 4, 2023. I didn’t pull any punches.”

    Sure, let him get his Feelz off and SAY anything he wants. I don’t see anyone in jail, so they didn’t DO anything. They’re hoping he will trade hot air for action, and the gravy train goes on untouched.

    “Did they get you to trade
    Your heroes for ghosts?
    Hot ashes for trees?
    Hot air for a cool breeze?
    Cold comfort for change?
    Did you exchange
    A walk-on part in the war
    For a lead role in a cage?” — Pink Floyd.

    “Climatologist” Yes, of course the scientists never show data nor methods, ever. Nor have discussions. That’s the definition of “Science”.

    Hey Canada, what’s the Carbon footprint of sending 40 $100,000 diesel-powered vehicles down every street in Canada to remove every inch of snow every snowfall? This is not a special street like a fire station or Parliament. If you want to know how big Nature is and how small man is, here two giant trucks, some of the largest we have, can’t empty one back alley of just a few inches. This is not like a 3-footer or nothin’. How many such streets are in Montreal? 95,000?

    Just saying maybe it would be more energy efficient ultimately to find a better solution?

    You can sled on the stuff, been doing it for like 10,000 years.
    SleighBells
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    #148237
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “10 Bears” Yes, but it takes a blood sacrifice. If you’re not willing to make it, you’ll lose. Thankfully, one man sacrificing himself is worth 1,000 forced sacrifices. This is why Ukraine lost. Our Founding Fathers laid down their lives, their mansions, fortunes, reputations, their sacred honor, and many were killed, houses burned, jailed, hung, lost. THEY did that. They didn’t leave it to others — or not THAT much. Ukraine wants to TAKE money, and remain oligarchs at the top and let OTHERS die and build the country for them, but that’s not how it works.

    Same right now. The Feds have been trying, doing, aching, forcing, killing widely for years, DECADES now, in a desperate attempt to make Joe Redneck take a swing. Any affront they can think of. We said, “I can take it”, then stood there and did. “They expect us to Fight; Or to lose heart. We will do neither!”

    They’re STILL AT IT. Because it’s the only thing they know. Now they’re at it with Trump. Stealing the election SURELY, absolutely, positively HAS TO, Must be violent, have a coup. Because he CAN. WHY ever on earth wouldn’t he? It’s what WE would do. It’s even what LOGICAL people would do.

    Nope. Not enough yet? America not unified yet? Fine, let Joe be the President.

    WE CAN TAKE IT.

    We can take the punishment. We’ll even make fun of you and laugh it the f– off. And Trump knows this. And WE know this. And that’s why we’ll win and he can risk this RATHER than have to start a series of ever-escalating partisan government party arrests. Here we are. Who’s for Joe Biden, 2024? Can a hear a “Yes Brother”? “Vote Blue No Matter Who”?

    Oh you’re going to RIG the election are you? With a 85% opposed rate? GO AHEAD. We’ll just keep getting bigger NEXT time.

    …And that’s why we’ll win. But note it’s not bombs, fists, not strategy. Not sense, intelligent, knowledge. Not allies, aid, not money. It’s HEART. And you can’t make that. It either is or it isn’t. It’s what’s deepest inside you, who you REALLY are that isn’t subject to influence and so on. And that’s why Ireland won too, or is in the process of winning the last counties. If you’re willing to TAKE THE PUNISHMENT, you really can’t BE stopped. If we just keep mocking you and won’t shut up, you’ll never actually BE feared, never actually IN control, are you?

    Orders are when you give them, people just do them, because. Not they question every order and disobey every order they can get away with while undermining you. That’s not power. And they can’t make us. There isn’t enough money, bullets, men to make us. Go ahead. We’re patient. The only way you can win is breaking WILL. But they’re not breaking our will, they’ve been MAKING it stronger these last 10 years. And that’s the end of them.

    #148238
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “https://www.nationofchange.org/2021/11/12/natural-asset-companies-and-the-plan-to-financialize-the-commons/

    Remember, their problems are not the same as our problems. They don’t and can’t see things the way we do. Their problem that WE never think of is COLLATERAL. An infinitely compounding debt system MUST take new collateral or collapse. In that way it’s an expansive Roman Empire, or a cancer. If it stops growing, it dies. (And most of us with it).

    That’s why they needed all Russia leveraged 300:1 but it’s not enough.

    This – and things like patenting the DNA of all life – is desperate beyond desperate. MAKE US. Suppose they enact such laws: how you gonna enforce them? They already did many times, like collecting rainwater in Central America. Here you have the largest possible power disparity and still not going well. Like they say “They’ll foreclose and steal all American houses”. Oh they WILL, will they? They’ll Blockchain and NESRA them, with all objects on earth. And we’re going to stand around for that and the Sheriff BillyBob is going to just enforce it on all 6,000 households in his own town? 100% of his voters that elected him in? And Cleetus isn’t going meet him with an armored D9 bulldozer?

    GTFO of here with that stuff. MAKE ME. Parasites have limits. They are not the Host.

    Yes, this is bad. But don’t fight them face to face on their strong ground. Ask where’s the Epstein Flight list. Who could object to that?

    #148239
    aspnaz
    Participant

    The partial pressure of carbon dioxide is approximately 0.00039 ATM which is equal to 0.0395 KPa or 0.296 mmHg or 0.005731 psi.

    The CO2 in the atmosphere is in the sort of quantities that would normally be referred to as a vacuum. The level of CO2 in the atmposphere is approximately the same as the vacuum specified by aircon retailers when you install an aircon unit, having to vacuum out the moisture and air before releasing the refrigerant into the air processing unit (indoor unit).

    For practical purposes, the CO2 argument is one about the quality of extreme vacuums.

    #148240
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    We now return you to your regularly scheduled trolls

    Ignis fatuus.

    #148241
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    Alastair Crooke back from Moscow reporting:

    Strategic Reflections From Moscow

    F.S.

    #148242
    Red
    Participant

    Dr Michael Yeadon had prepared a video recording for the event hosted by Andrew Bridgen in Parliament yesterday. However, there was said to be a technical error, but according to Dr Yeadon, there must have been two errors because they had received his recording several days before and confirmed that “it was working” and “Peter McCullough was intending to present by video link, eg Zoom” but a technical error prevented it from being seen.

    “It’s not believable that both link & local playback failed.” “Why didn’t they want me to speak?” he asks.

    Why indeed?

    Video: “The design of the so called COVID-19 vaccines was intentionally to harm people.” Dr. Mike Yeadon

    #148243
    Red
    Participant

    Oxy: the US is the eagle. The bald eagle is considered a scavenger before predator, if the shoe fits.

    #148245
    zerosum
    Participant

    Even if you don’t feel it, You are being manipulated.

    Control
    the message

    Avoid
    critics

    Avoid
    responsibility/accountability

    Israel has created an amount of hatred that will haunt this region and the world.

    The root cause of the call for ceasefire is hatred and hostilities at Israel for committing murderous atrocities and massacres in Gaza that will make all humans blush.

    The message of “ceasefire” is being polluted by the media calling that all of the activists and demonstrators are “demonstrations for Palestine” and are “anti Israel”.

    The message of Peace, ceasefire and stopping the killing is being minimized and diverted.
    ———–
    Are US, (the West), citizens allowed to read RT?
    ( The alternative is TAE)

    https://swentr.site/news/588849-un-official-says-israel-trying-to-force-gazans-into-egypt/
    10 Dec, 2023 21:31

    Israel trying to force Gazans into Egypt –

    The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) are setting the stage for the mass expulsion of Palestinians into Egypt while creating conditions that will make it impossible for them to ever return to their destroyed homes in Gaza,
    ———-
    Don’t pay attention to what I say/write. Look/listen to what Al Gore said

    https://modernity.news/2023/12/10/al-gore-says-people-having-access-to-non-mainstream-information-threatens-democracy/
    • Al Gore: Access to Non-Mainstream Information ‘Threatens Democracy’ (MN)
    ——-
    WOW! I never expected that would happen!


    ___________

    #148246
    jb-hb
    Participant

    (access to information outside of corpgov media sources) “the digital equivalent of AR-15s – they ought to be banned, they really ought to be banned!” – Al Gore

    “Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?” – Joseph Stalin

    #148247
    jb-hb
    Participant

    The former Vice President said that functioning democracy relied on a “shared base of knowledge that serves as a basis for reasoning together collectively” but that “social media that is dominated by algorithms” upsets this balance.

    Collective Reasoning. No, not creepy at all.

    And this insistence that people don’t think, they’re merely influenced by outside factors. Conditions leading to conditions. A contempt for human consciousness.

    Favorite zerohedge comment on this:

    “gore is 75 years old. you can’t live forever. imagine hating people so much that you want to destroy freedom that much at a point in your life when you wont live long enough to see your destruction. to literally throw a match on the way out. thats the very defintion of an asshole.”

    They keep trying to believe they can Have It All. Stop all human consciousness, decision making, free thought, action, association, problem-solving. ALL the luxuries skimmed and wallowed in – for a time – were emergent characteristics of those very activities. Activities they cannot bear to engage in themselves. They want to believe they can chop down the tree, feed it through a woodchipper, and eat fruit from the branch they left hanging in midair.

    #148248
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks Oxymoron. Thanks Run For The Hills.
    🙂

    #148249
    John Day
    Participant

    Bad Seeds https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/bad-seeds

    ​ Chris Hedges ,​ The Evil Israel Does is the Evil Israel Gets​ [Presented as a meditation to know this part of ourselves without ​”becoming ​our enemies”.]

    ​ Israel’s genocide in Gaza is rearing a new generation of enraged, traumatized and dispossessed Palestinians who have lost family members, friends, homes, communities and any hope of living ordinary lives. They, too, will seek retribution. Their small acts of terrorism will counter Israel’s ongoing state terror. They will hate as they have been hated. This lust for vengeance is universal. After World War Two, a clandestine unit of Jews who served in the Jewish Brigade of the British Army, called “Gmul,” – Hebrew for “Recompense” – hunted down former Nazis and executed them.
    ​ “I and the public know/What all schoolchildren learn,” W.H. Auden wrote. “Those to whom evil is done/Do evil in return.”

    ​ Chaim Engel, who took part in the uprising at the Nazis’ Sobibor death camp in Poland, described how, armed with a knife, he attacked a guard in the camp.
    “It’s not a decision,” Engel said. “You just react, instinctively you react to that, and I figured, ‘Let us to do, and go and do it.’ And I went. I went with the man in the office, and we killed this German. With every jab, I said, ‘That is for my father, for my mother, for all these people, all the Jews you killed.’”
    ​ What Engel did to the Nazi guard was no less savage than what Hamas fighters did to Israelis on Oct. 7, after escaping their own prison. Taken out of context, it is inexplicable. But set against the backdrop of the extermination camp, or the 17 years trapped in Gaza’s concentration camp, it makes sense. This is not to excuse it. To understand is not to condone. But we must understand if this cycle of violence is to be stopped. No one is immune to the thirst for vengeance. Israel and the U.S. are foolishly orchestrating yet another chapter in this nightmare.

    ​ J. Glenn Gray, a combat officer in World War Two, wrote about the peculiar nature of vengeance in “The Warriors: Reflections on Men in Battle:”When the soldier has lost a comrade to this enemy or possibly had his family destroyed by them through bombings or through political atrocities, so frequently the case in World War II, his anger and resentment deepen into hatred. Then the war for him takes on the character of a vendetta. Until he has himself destroyed as many of the enemy as possible, his lust for vengeance can hardly be appeased. I have known soldiers who were avid to exterminate every last one of the enemy, so fierce was their hatred. Such soldiers took great delight in hearing or reading of mass destruction through bombings. Anyone who has known or been a soldier of this kind is aware of how hatred penetrates every fiber of his being. His reason for living is to seek revenge; not an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, but a tenfold retaliation.
    ​ To the brutalized, numb with trauma, convulsed by rage, those who relentlessly attack and humiliate them are not human beings. They are representations of evil. The lust for vengeance, for tenfold retaliation, spawns rivers of blood.

    ​ The Palestinian attacks of Oct. 7, which left some 1,200 Israelis dead, feeds this lust within Israel, just as Israel’s obliteration of Gaza feeds this lust among Palestinians. Israel’s blue and white national flag with the Star of David adorns homes and cars. Crowds gather to support families whose members are among the hostages in Gaza. Israelis hand out food at road junctions to soldiers headed to fight in Gaza. Banners with slogans such as “Israel at war” and “Together we will win” punctuate television broadcasts and media sites. There is little discussion in Israeli media of the slaughter in Gaza or the suffering of Palestinians – 1.7 million of whom have been driven from their homes – but a constant repetition of the stories of suffering, death and heroism that took place on the Oct. 7 attack. Only our victims matter.

    ​ “Few of us ever know how far fear and violence can transform us into creatures at bay, ready with tooth and claw,” Gray wrote. “If the war taught me anything at all, it convinced me that people are not what they seem or even think themselves to be.”

    ​ Marguerite Duras in her book “The War: A Memoir” writes of how she and other members of the French Resistance tortured a 50-year-old Frenchman accused of collaborating with the Nazis. Two men who were tortured in Montluc prison in Lyon strip the alleged informer. They beat him as the group shouts: “Bastard. Traitor. Scum.” Blood and mucus soon run from his nose. His eye is damaged. He moans, “Ow, ow, oh, oh. …” He crumples in a heap on the floor. Duras writes that he had “become someone without anything in common with other men. And with every minute the difference grows bigger and more established.” She watches the beating passively. “The more they hit and the more he bleeds, the more it’s clear that hitting is necessary, right, just.” She goes on: “You have to strike. There will never be any justice in the world unless you – yourself are justice now. Judges, paneled courtrooms play-acting, not justice.” She notes,“Every blow rings out in the silent room. They’re hitting at all the traitors, at the women who left, at all those who didn’t like what they saw from behind the shutters.”

    ​ Israel has abused, humiliated, impoverished and wantonly killed Palestinians, provoking inevitable counter violence. It is the engine behind a century of bloodshed. The genocide in Gaza outdoes even the worst excesses of the Nakba, or catastrophe, which saw 750,000 Palestinians driven from their land in 1948 and 8,000 to 15,000 murdered in massacres by Zionist terrorist militias such as Irgun and Lehi.
    https://scheerpost.com/2023/12/08/chris-hedges-the-evil-israel-does-is-the-evil-israel-gets/

    ​ Hamas Plan: Israel Knew It for Over a Year​ (​Establishing blame to ​drive slaughter and genocidal objectives. 7-hour military stand-down helped it happen.)
    ​ “Israel has known Hamas’ attack plan for over a year,” reveals the New York Times. A 40-page document code-named by Israeli intelligence as “Walls of Jericho” proves it. Without specifying the date, it outlines point by point exactly the attack carried out by Hamas on October 7, 2023. The plan has circulated widely for over a year before October 7, 2023, among Israeli military and intelligence leaders. Still, they concluded that “an attack of this magnitude is beyond the capabilities of Hamas.”
    ​ Last July, just three months before the attack, a veteran analyst from Unit 8200 Israel’s intelligence agency warned that Hamas had conducted an intense exercise similar to the one described in the plan. But an intelligence agency colonel trashed her report. On October 7, 2023, Hamas executed the attack plan with “astonishing precision”: a barrage of rockets, drones to disable security cameras and automatic machine guns along the barrier surrounding Gaza, armed men entering Israeli territory from gaps opened with bulldozers in the barrier. Exactly as it was written in the plan called the “Walls of Jericho” by Israeli intelligence.

    Hamas Plan: Israel Knew It for Over a Year

    ​ More than 5,000 Israeli soldiers have been wounded in fighting in Gaza since 7 October, while Israeli officials are warning of a looming mental health crisis, an Israeli newspaper reported on Saturday.​ [Only the complete eradication of Palestinians can heal these wounds, right?]
    ​ “We have never faced something like this,” Luria said, adding that 5,000 soldiers had been wounded since the start of the fighting.​ “Who will help them shower or get around the house? Most of the victims suffered serious injuries, and the state needs to understand that there is an arena here that requires a new distribution of injuries.”
    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-thousands-soldiers-wounded-disabled-gaza-fighting

    #148250
    John Day
    Participant

    US uses veto power, blocks UNSC resolution calling for Gaza ceasefire​
    Failure to pass the resolution comes although 13 countries voted in favor of it, while the UK abstained.
    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-uses-veto-power–blocks-unsc-resolution-calling-for-gaza

    66% of Americans Want a Ceasefire!

    Gaza: “Genocide Joe,” 66% of Americans Want a Ceasefire!

    WHO confirms more than 449 attacks on health services in Gaza, West Bank since Oct. 7
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231210-who-confirms-more-than-449-attacks-on-health-services-in-gaza-west-bank-since-oct-7/

    ​ The Israeli army opened fire on six ambulances of the Palestinian Red Crescent Society, escorted by UN vehicles, carrying 11 patients with critical injuries, including amputations and head wounds, in Gaza, the Red Crescent said on Sunday, adding that one of the injured died before receiving any treatment, Anadolu Agency reports.
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231210-israeli-army-fires-on-6-palestinian-red-crescent-ambulances-escorted-by-un-vehicles/

    ​ Video reportedly shows Israeli forces directing unarmed Gazan civilians to stage gun surrender
    A video reportedly shows Israeli soldiers instructing unarmed Palestinian civilians to simulate the surrender of firearms. In the footage, an Israeli soldier is heard giving directions in Arabic: ‘Grab the gun I gave you, but don’t shoot it, we don’t want trouble, walk slowly and leave it on the ground on the other side.’ The man identified in the video is Moin Qeshta Al-Masry, owner of an aluminium workshop in Gaza. Al-Masry was among those who sought refuge in Al-Khalifa school in Beit Lahia and was reportedly taken along with others.
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231210-video-reportedly-shows-israeli-forces-directing-unarmed-gazan-civilians-to-stage-gun-surrender/

    #148251
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ Israel’s onslaught drags U.S. Jewish life into the abyss​ , PHILIP WEISS
    The Jewish establishment has been consigned to the support of genocide, and it has accepted that role eagerly. The effect on Judaism of this moral collapse is unfathomable.

    Israel’s onslaught drags U.S. Jewish life into the abyss

    ​ The Yemeni Armed Forces announce that all ships bound to the occupation entity are prohibited from passing through the seas regardless of their nationality until sufficient food and medicine aid enters Gaza.
    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/yemen-prevents–israel–bound-ships-from-passing-via-arabian

    ​ IRAN PRESIDENT RAISI ASKS PRESIDENT PUTIN TO SUPPORT GAZA ACTION – PUTIN IS EVASIVE FOR THE MOMENT​ , John Helmer
    ​ An Iranian-Russian initiative on the Gaza War was tabled when Iranian President Sayyid Ebrahim Raisi met with President Vladimir Putin for several hours on Thursday. For the time being the Kremlin is doing its best to hide it.
    ​ According to Iran’s Foreign Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian, speaking after Raisi had returned home, “a significant part of the negotiations focused on the Palestinian issue and Russia is thinking about an initiative on Gaza. The two sides stressed the need for an immediate cessation of the war and genocide in Gaza and the West Bank, he said, noting that the presidents of Iran and Russia also called for stopping the forced migration of Gazans and the immediate opening of the Rafah border to deliver massive humanitarian aid to Gazan people.”
    ​ There was a one-on-one session between Raisi and Putin at the commencement of the talks; a session of the two presidents with brief public statements; and then closed delegation presentations and a supper. Altogether, the talks lasted five hours. There were no press briefings at the conclusion.
    ​ There has been a blackout on the talks by Russian Defense Ministry, the military bloggers, and Moscow media like Vzglyad which has been taking a pro-Israel line. No Russian official will clarify what Abdollahian meant by his claim that “Russia is thinking about an initiative on Gaza” – except to point out that Abdollahian’s wording does not mean that the “initiative” at this stage was initiated by the Russian side.​..
    The Fars news agency has also announced that participating in the Iranian delegation, but not in the front row of the “narrow format” session, there were Minister of Roads and Urban Development Mehrdad Bazrpash; head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, Mohammad Eslami; and the Governor of the Central Bank of Iran, Mohammad-Reza Farzin.
    ​ Farzin’s role, together with that of Russian Central Bank governor Elvira Nabiullina, is to devise counter-measures for US and European sanctions, and to implement “a road map [to] be drawn up by States to reduce the dependency of international trade on national currencies that are prone to being used to implement unilateral coercive measures or to sustain a particular State’s monetary hegemony over the global economy.” This is one of the sixteen points of agreement which Abdollahian signed with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on December 5, two days before Raisi’s arrival.​ Read the full economic counter warfare plan here​: https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1919257/
    ​ Moscow analysts note that while Putin may be keeping his distance from the Iranian rhetoric against Israel, at the working group level the collaboration of the two states in military, financial and strategic operations means much more. There is also discreet evidence that the Chinese are active in the planning of a major humanitarian operation for Gaza.
    ​ “On the battlefield Russians are very fast learners from their mistakes,” a veteran Moscow analyst says. “But in Russian politics and business they are slow to accept that the US and Israel have always been enemies to Russian interests, and will remain so. What the Americans and Israelis don’t realise is that Putin was the slowest to change his mind towards them. The Ukraine war and now the Gaza War have changed all that.”

    IRAN PRESIDENT RAISI ASKS PRESIDENT PUTIN TO SUPPORT GAZA ACTION – PUTIN IS EVASIVE FOR THE MOMENT

    ​ M​ore from John Helmer, “ONE WAR, ONE ELECTION AT A TIME” – ONE STEP FORWARD FOR NATIONAL LIBERATION, TWO STEPS BACK
    ​ Two hours after Putin put down the phone with el-Sisi, he picked it up again to call Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The Kremlin communiqué has omitted to report what Netanyahu said.
    ​ Instead, Putin gave the Israeli his personal assurance there will be no Russian participation in a Gaza blockade-busting plan to deliver humanitarian aid to the Palestinians by sea, or across the Egyptian land border. Nor will the Russian military intervene to threaten Israeli aircraft if they commence bombing Beirut and southern Lebanese targets in the war against Hezbollah.​..
    ​..A veteran of NATO military operations in Afghanistan observes: “The Ukrainian lines are breaking up all along the front. The push is on and that’s where Putin will put his effort to keep his credibility at home. If [Chief of the General Staff General Valery] Gerasimov can keep destroying the fascists riding NATO junk at the current rate of a battalion per day and gain ground doing it, everyone is happy — for now. As for the Arabs, no one in the region will directly take Israel on. The Lebanese Government is petrified of Israel — and they know better than to ask for Russian help. Sisi, with the most capable military, is a coward. The rest will make noise while clandestinely helping the Palestinian resistance, and causing trouble for the US in the neighbourhood. The Iranians know how to fight and won’t stop. The Israelis should and do see them as threat number-one.”
    ​ “The only way I see a direct intervention is if China takes the lead on, or announces support for, one. But [President] Xi [Jinping] has some trouble at home, and nothing I’m reading shows Chinese popular support for intervening. If anything, they’re indifferent.”
    ​ In wars for national liberation and in civil wars, the terrorism label is one side’s propaganda against the other – this is the consensus of the Russian sources, unspoken and unpublished for the time being. Russian public policy has yet to resolve the contradiction between Russian support for Palestine’s national liberation and opposition to Hamas’s “terrorism” – this can’t happen, the sources say, before the presidential election in March, and the success of the Russian military offensive in the Ukraine by then too.
    ​ “There’s nothing new here. Putin is following the old Soviet line on exercising ‘the greatest possible caution’ towards the ‘frightful collisions’ which Stalin’s famous speech on revolution and tactics spelled out a century ago.”
    ​ A Russian source on military strategy believes the Russian objective is to protract the Palestine war on all fronts simultaneously, and exhaust the US and Israel by threatening Israeli ports and shipping, Israel’s offshore gas supplies, and the economy’s principal sources of income. Exhausting the US in the Middle East helps exhaust the US and NATO in the Ukraine, the source adds.​

    “ONE WAR, ONE ELECTION AT A TIME” – ONE STEP FORWARD FOR NATIONAL LIBERATION, TWO STEPS BACK

    #148252
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ US wants to fast-track approval of 45k Merkava shells to ‘Israel’
    The US State Department is pushing Congress to approve the $500 million sale requested by President Biden earlier this week for “Israel” for its ongoing war on Gaza.
    ​ While public statements between Biden and other senior officials of his administration, including Secretary of State Antony Blinken, call for Israelis to “minimize civilian casualties” as much as possible, the ongoing supply of offensive weapons and munitions and destructive bombs signals the complete opposite.
    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-wants-to-fast-track-approval-of-45k-merkava-shells-to–is

    ​ IOF snipers target, kill pregnant women​
    The Gaza Ministry of Health spokesperson says snipers nested around Al-Awda Hospital have killed and injured several pregnant women on their way to the hospital to give birth.
    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/gaza-martyrs-toll-hits-17-700–iof-snipers-target–kill-preg

    ​ ‘Operation Al-Aqsa Flood’ Day 65: U.S. rushes arms to Israel as Palestinians announce over 250,000 homes destroyed in Gaza
    ​ The Biden administration bypasses congressional approval to rush an emergency arms sale to Israel as the WHO warns Gaza’s health system is collapsing and the PA announces 25 percent of Gaza’s urban space has been destroyed.

    ‘Operation Al-Aqsa Flood’ Day 65: U.S. rushes arms to Israel as Palestinians announce over 250,000 homes destroyed in Gaza

    ​ More than 5,000 Palestinians have become disabled since 7 October due to Israel’s ongoing attacks on the Gaza Strip, Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor and the Disabilities Representative Persons Network (DRPN) said in a joint statement issued Thursday.​.. Over 40,000 Gaza Strip residents have been injured during Israel’s attacks. The human rights group noted that at least 5,000 of these individuals have disabilities that put their lives in danger because of the dire lack of access to medical care and the collapse of the health system.
    ​ Significantly, prior to 7 October, over 130,000 people in the Gaza Strip were already disabled. The majority of these people suffered their disabling injuries during one or more of the frequent Israeli military operations on the Strip, which began more than 20 years ago.
    https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6013/New-catastrophic-plight-in-Gaza:-Israel%E2%80%99s-attacks-leave-more-than-5,000-Palestinians-disabled

    ​ Israeli politician calls for captured Palestinians to be ‘buried alive’
    Far-right deputy mayor of Jerusalem describes arrested Palestinians in Gaza as ‘subhuman’ and invokes biblical reference
    ​ The deputy mayor of Jerusalem, Aryeh Yitzhak King, has called for the Israeli army to bury alive hundreds of Palestinian civilians captured in Gaza.
    In a post on X on Friday, King, a far-right politician, said the Israeli army was eliminating “Muslim Nazis” in Gaza and suggested it needed to pick up the pace.
    ​ The post made specific reference to footage published by the Israeli army showing captured Palestinians stripped to their underwear, kneeling on the ground and being guarded by Israeli soldiers.
    ​ King, in his post that has since been deleted for violating rules on X, said: “If it were up to me, I would have dispatched D-9 bulldozers and put them behind the mounds of dirt and would have given the order to cover all these hundreds of ants, while they’re still alive.”
    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-politician-calls-civilians-buried-alive

    #148253
    John Day
    Participant

    Israel trying to force Gazans into Egypt – UN official
    Refugee agency chief Philippe Lazzarini has accused West Jerusalem of seeking to drive Palestinians out of their homeland
    https://swentr.site/news/588849-un-official-says-israel-trying-to-force-gazans-into-egypt/

    Egypt Warns Israel Ties Could ‘Rupture’ If Masses Of Refugees Pushed Into Sinai
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/egypt-warns-israel-ties-could-rupture-if-masses-refugees-pushed-sinai

    ​ Recent weeks have seen a flurry of media reports and remarks by officials on possible peace talks aimed at ending the NATO-Russia proxy war in Ukraine. But the trust deficit between Moscow and Washington appears to be simply be too great after the West’s thirty-year “continuum of deception,” says Russian foreign policy strategist Dmitry Suslov.
    ​ “There must be ironclad guarantees and a reality that Ukraine can no longer be able to pose a military threat to Russia with Western help. Russia is not afraid of Ukraine as Ukraine, Russia is afraid of Ukraine being a Western bulwark on Russia’s borders. So there must be such a reality in which the US, the West, simply will not be able to use Ukraine as an instrument, as a bulwark against Russia. And I think that the special military operation will continue up until that moment,” the observer summed up.
    https://sputnikglobe.com/20231209/russia-wont-agree-to-minsk-30-deal-on-ukraine-heres-why-1115498952.html

    ​ Russia won’t allow existence of ‘Nazi state’ on its border – Moscow
    ​“From the very beginning of the hostilities, the [Ukrainian] neo-Nazis have been cynically using the civilian population as ‘human shields’ and brutally treating Russian prisoners of war. Their main goal in this conflict is to kill as many Russians as possible,” Zakharova explained.
    ​ We will not allow the existence on our borders of an aggressive Nazi state from whose territory there is a danger for Russia and its neighbors.
    ​ Asked about prospects of somehow settling the conflict, Zakharova said that the only way to reach a “lasting peace” was, effectively, meeting all Russia’s demands. “It is necessary to confirm the neutral, non-aligned and nuclear-free status of Ukraine, carry out its demilitarization and denazification, acknowledge new territorial realities, and ensure the rights of Russian-speaking citizens and national minorities living in this country,” she explained.
    https://www.azerbaycan24.com/en/russia-won-t-allow-existence-of-nazi-state-on-its-border-moscow/

    ​Transnistria is technically a part of Moldova, but remains Russian and refused to withdraw from the USSR. It remains a target for NATO and Ukraine.
    ​ Moldovan municipalities controlled by “anti-European” forces will be deprived of funds provided by the EU, the country’s President Maia Sandu has said.
    The president issued the threat on Saturday while speaking at a forum in Chisinau that brought together some 500 mayors, although the gathering was boycotted by certain opposition parties.
    https://www.rt.com/russia/588793-sandu-moldova-eu-funding/

    #148254
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ The US/NATO is already failing to supply the Ukrainian army, is supplying Israel, and says they can supply Taiwan against the global manufacturing powerhouse, China.
    ​ At an Atlantic Council event held days ago Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Christopher Grady said that the Pentagon stands ready to handle missions connected to three potential proxy wars in defense if its interests if it comes to that.
    Grady described that the US Navy in particular is capable of waging battle against Russia in Ukraine, against China in Taiwan, and is ready to assist the Israelis in Gaza if called upon. This could be done simultaneously, he described, while admitting this would stretch naval forces thin.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/military/top-defense-official-us-can-handle-middle-east-russia-china-operations-all-once

    ​ Father of American journalist jailed in Ukraine blames Biden
    Gonzalo Lira Sr. has claimed that Washington was complicit in the detention of his son for criticizing Kiev
    ​ Gonzalo Lira Sr. has called his son a political prisoner and has argued that his case illustrates the absurdity of US claims that the world must defend “freedom and democracy” in Ukraine.
    https://swentr.site/news/588814-father-of-jailed-american-in-ukraine-blames-biden/

    Musk Asks Zelensky About Imprisoned American Journalist After Tucker Carlson Sounds Alarm
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/musk-asks-zelensky-about-imprisoned-american-journalist-after-tucker-carlson-sounds

    “People Have Spoken”: Elon Musk Restores X Account Of Alex Jones After User Poll
    “Reinstate Alex Jones on this platform?” Musk asked. Nearly two million X users voted, with more than 70% voting in favor of Jones’ return.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/people-have-spoken-elon-musk-restores-x-account-alex-jones-after-user-poll

    How the Federal-Private Speech Police Operated in Election 2020: With Radar Highly Attuned to the Right
    https://realclearwire.com/articles/2023/12/08/how_the_federal-private_speech_police_operated_in_election_2020_with_radar_highly_attuned_to_the_right_997726.html

    #148255
    John Day
    Participant

    ​Where will the energy come from to support industrial society after this decade? Will the South let North Koreans immigrate? They are accustomed to living with much less.
    ​ South Korea may be about to embrace mass migration, with the country’s Justice Minister claiming it faces a “demographic catastrophe” otherwise.
    ​ Han Dong-hoon told a parliamentary meeting in Seoul, “When it comes to immigration policies, we have passed the stage of deliberating whether to implement them or not. Because if we don’t, we cannot escape the fate of extinction due to the demographic catastrophe.”
    ​ Current trends show that South Korea faces a population decline similar to how the Black Death impacted Europe in the 14th century if fertility levels don’t rapidly improve.
    “Deaths have surpassed births for more than three years in South Korea amid a steady decline in the country’s total fertility rate, the average number of children a woman bears in her lifetime.”​ …
    ​..Han’s desire to see South Korea imitate how Europe has opened the floodgates for vast numbers of migrants over the last 20 years somehow isn’t tempered by the reality of what that has done to crime levels, social cohesion and the complete obliteration of national identity in many major cities across the continent.
    ​ Although Japan is in a similar situation to South Korea, they have so far refused to compromise their homogeneity for mass migration, presumably enjoying the fact that Tokyo is the safest city in the world, followed by Singapore and Osaka.
    https://modernity.news/2023/12/09/south-korea-set-to-embrace-mass-migration-to-avoid-extinction/

    Arizona’s Democrat Governor Demands $512 Million Reimbursement From Biden For Border Security ‘Failure’
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/arizonas-democrat-governor-demands-512-million-reimbursement-biden-border-security

    ​ Petrodollar Endgame Moves Even Closer
    ​ He also talked about the importance of Saudi Arabia’s role when asked about Putin’s recent trip to visit MBS: “In recent years, Saudi Arabia, the cornerstone of the dollar hegemony, has joined the exponentially expanding Belt Road Initiative alongside all the other OPEC members. The Saudi’s have also joined the BRICS, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization which is the largest regional financial and military organization in the world, and the BRICS New Development Bank.”
    ​ “The west is receiving a very clear message from this progression,” Andy told me. “But if that wasn’t clear enough, Saudi Arabia’s finance minister made it quite apparent at the 2023 World Economic Forum in January that the Kingdom is open to dealing in currencies other than the US dollar for the first time in 48 years.”
    ​ When I asked him about the UAE no longer taking dollars for oil, he told me: “While it may not be as quite as dramatic as Saudi Arabia and the rest of OPEC doing the same thing, don’t kid yourself, this is a hugely significant event. The ramifications become far more concerning when viewed in the light of the growing progression of global de-dollarization and large number of unilateral trade deals usurping the dollar and the SWIFT system.”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/petrodollar-endgame-moves-even-closer

    ​William Makis MD , Turbo Cancer: Leukemia Diagnosis to Death in Hours, Days or Weeks
    32 Tragic Cases of the most aggressive COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine Induced Turbo Cancer (occurs after Pfizer or Moderna mRNA injection)

    Turbo Cancer: Leukemia Diagnosis to Death in Hours, Days or Weeks

    #148256
    zerosum
    Participant

    Even if you don’t feel it, You are being manipulated.

    Have you noticed this tool ….
    Flip the script.

    #148257
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    It would be most pleasant if the site would stop repeating: “…an incursion by the Palestinian armed group Hamas that killed at least 1,200 people,…”. There are no facts Hamas killed these people and a lot of indications it was the criminal Zionist military who murdered probably the vastly larger fraction of the dead. It was not in Hamas’s interest to kill hostages, but was IDF policy to kill rather than loose hostages to any captor. Repeating this particular piece of gobshite without objection only validates the murderous Israeli Zionist propaganda and lies, and turns the site into a megaphone for zionism. Surely that is not the intention.

    Furthermore, the death toll from the Gaza health authorities reflects the bodies that pass through the health system of hospitals, etc. It might help to be mindful that this would not include those killed in collapsed buildings, buildings completely blown away from heavy bomb strikes, or bulldozed, a la Rachael Corry, by the invading criminals. If only half of the victims are taken to where they can be counted, then you can reasonably double the mortality; if forty percent are counted then 2 1/2 times the dead are likely, and if only a third are taken to be counted the three times the death count are a reasonable number. There is no way, given the conditions that the population of any building bombed can be ascertained with any degree of certainty. Given the current 17,700 deaths reported, 35,000 is quite likely to reflect reality; once the recovery becomes feasible.

    And should the zionist criminals start pumping seawater into Gaza, those with the capacity and ability, employ their precision missiles into the pumping apparatus before irredeemable damage is done to people or the enviornment. If this causes the pips to squeak all needs be done is remind of their policy “R2P”. The mice will roar as do the mindless near-do-wells infesting the executive, senate and house of reps, and the judicuaryu from the SCotUS and below. No sympathy should be wasted on any there.

    Just some opinions in vogue.

    #148258
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    One thought further:

    The zionist military thugs, by herding the Gazan population (surviving) further and further south are setting it up for mass extermination using fewer and fewer bombs. How cunning is that? Fewer bombs to pay for; just like zylon gas was cheaper than an engine’s exhaust.

    It is time to terminate the Israel project. Ut is past time to terminate zionism and zionists. YMMD

    #148259
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    One thought further:

    The zionist military thugs, by herding the Gazan population (surviving) further and further south are setting it up for mass extermination using fewer and fewer bombs. How cunning is that? Fewer bombs to pay for; just like zylon gas was cheaper than an engine’s exhaust.

    It is time to terminate the Israel project. Ut is past time to exterminate zionism and zionists. YMMD

    #148261
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    @jb-hb

    (re: Gore & his ilk…)

    Collective Reasoning. No, not creepy at all.

    And this insistence that people don’t think, they’re merely influenced by outside factors. Conditions leading to conditions. A contempt for human consciousness.

    Consummatum est.

    #148262
    aspnaz
    Participant

    The boomers may be dumb as shite, but at least the young ones are catching on … https://www.zerohedge.com/political/1-5-young-americans-say-holocaust-was-myth-twice-many-democrats-republicans

    #148263
    Polemos
    Participant

    Thought y’all might want to see this video, but apologies if this video has already been shared—I don’t have much time lately to mudlurk with you wacky, zany wugguble kids.

    #148264
    Oroboros
    Participant

    So remember when the Empire of Lies retarded pedophile send Ukronaziland ‘cluster munition artillery shells’ because the military industrial mafia ran out of regular artillery shells?

    Remember that?

    And using cluster munitions is considered a war crime

    Remember that?

    The Russians said if Nazilensky used them on Russian troops, that Russian would then feel free to use them too.

    Well Russia has tens of millions of rounds of cluster munitions in cold storage,

    Magnitudes more than the Empire of Lies has. Magnitudes

    Now they are pouring them down on Ukronazis troops with devastating effect.

    And Boy Howdy do they work

    The Russians are firing air-burst cluster munition over Ukronazi trenches and wiping out whole companies at a whack.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/klsjLF7Rvah4/

    Well, that went well.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/AfXVvwaS5Ed2/

    #148265
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Al-Qassam Brigade Hits on IDF Armor

    Whac-A-Mole

    #148266
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    It is time to terminate the Israel project. Ut is past time to exterminate zionism and zionists. YMMD

    Hear, hear: time for the tail to be cut off to quit wagging the dog…

    #148267
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    The whole world has now seen the true face of the jew…liars, theives, murderers. Even their complete stranglehold of media and gaslighting cannot stop it. Cat’s out of the bag. They got away with JFK, 911, Covid which pumped up their Hubris, fuck it lets genocide these assholes and steal the land. The pendulum has swung, no 1 buys their bullshit anymore. Shove your jeworldorder up your ass, bankerboyz.

    #148268
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.gov.il/en/departments/news/swords-of-iron-idf-casualties

    Swords of Iron: The names of 433 IDF casualties have been released for publication.

    #148269
    WES
    Participant

    In Gaza, Israel controls a narrow strip adjacent to the Egyptian border.
    I am just waiting for Israel to stand down and allow the Palestinians to flood into Egypt.

    #148283
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    @aspnaz

    The boomers may be dumb as shite, but at least the young ones are catching on…

    Just the facts, ma’am…

    It is estimated that the average score for 16 to 17-year-olds is 108, which denotes “normal or average intelligence.”

    For adults between 18 and 19 years of age, the average IQ score is 105, which also denotes “normal or average intelligence.”

    The average score for people between 20 and 24 years of age is 99, which also denotes “normal or average intelligence.”

    For people between 24 and 34 years of age, the average score is slightly lower at 97, which still denotes “normal or average intelligence.”

    The scores begin to go up again after that age, among older adults

    For people between 35 and 44 years old is estimated to be 101, still within the “normal or average intelligence” scale.

    For people between the ages of 45 and 54, the average IQ score goes up to 106 within the “normal or average intelligence” scale.

    For people between the ages of 55 and 64, which gets to 109 in the IQ scale, just about falling short of being classed as having a “superior intelligence” or “above average” intelligence”.

    People between 65 and 69 have an average IQ score of 114, which puts them in the “superior intelligence” or “above average” end of the scale.

    But people between 70 and 74 who are tested for IQ get an even higher average score of 119, which puts them a mere 1 put short of getting into the “gifted” category, which means that they are still firmly within the “above average” or “superior intelligence” group together with their younger 65-69 years old counterparts.


    Stupid is, as stupid does…

    #148285
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @Vain Poet Nice poem. Did you make that up yourself?

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