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ParticipantRussia’s message to the West is that the Russian Federation absolutely does have both the capacity and the will to make the West stop harming Russia, so stop it or experience the inevitable consequences of your criminal actions. You (America and the entire Cabal) are encouraged to simply stop. You can see what will happen if you don’t, and if you pretend that you don’t see it then I am telling you aloud so that you and everyone else in the world can see and hear it too.
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ParticipantThings are likely to get violent soon, and for a while. Before that kicks off in full force I think we should remind ourselves that no one should take any pleasure in extinguishing the life of an adversary no matter how wicked, nor should they grieve about doing it either. In fact, killing one’s foes should be avoided at all times that do not actually require that violence as the only remaining means of preventing wickedness from prevailing. And courageously doing what must be done to preserve life and goodness is honorable and nothing to grieve over.
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Participant@DrD
I have no idea what everyone’s on about. As Mr. Nobody says, this is the least interview interview in a while.”
Swing and a miss, Doc. Strike 1.
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ParticipantFolks are starting to wake up to the importance of the Carlson Putin Interview.
Well, you ain’t seen nothing yet. That “Truth Fest” interview is only the start. Call it the firing cap of a very large bullet in a very big gun.
By now you have probably already figured out that “they” (villainous label of your choice) control us by means of lying. They commit all sorts of heinous crimes as standard operating procedure including the most enormous and blatantly evil thefts and murders (that’s how they roll), but even those attention grabbing grand scale atrocities are, in the end, still controlled always and only by LIES.
There are many extremely important truths about life altering events of world changing magnitude THAT YOU DON”T EVEN KNOW EXIST, because all of the information about their existence and importance have been CENSORED out of the stream of information that you are allowed to hear. That censorship itself was accomplished by means of very purposefully and cleverly LYING.
It was very effective. It worked so well that you do not know enough to even know there is anything to know about, so you don’t look, and so you are consequently as unaware of your actual environment as a hypnotized chicken. Seriously, you actually ARE, and the awakening is going to be almost paralysis inducing shock. You will go through a terrible phase of not trusting ANYTHING, including perhaps even your own senses. Thankfully, that condition is self-correcting and brief.
The depth, breadth, and seriousness of the lies, and thus the TRUTHS that are below them, are going to pose a potentially lethal challenge to the daily lives of the vast vast majority of humankind.
The Carlson Putin interview is just the spark that ignites the charge, and that stack of explosives has been piling up for a LONG time.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantJust in today from Scott Ritter’s Substack. (I lifted his first paragraph. The full essay is here: https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/tucker-madness-is-good-for-america?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
“The former Fox News talk show host-turned independent media phenomenon, Tucker Carlson, is in Moscow, where he has committed the mortal sin of interviewing Russian President Vladimir Putin. The interview is scheduled to air at 6 pm eastern time on Thursday, February 8. Let there be no doubt—Tucker Carlson has pulled off one of the most memorable journalistic accomplishments in modern history, and when the interview does air, it will—literally and figuratively—break the internet.”
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Participant@aspnaz wrote, ” I tend not to personally criticise people on here. ..”
That’s just bullshit, aspie. You insult and attempt to defame others on this forum on an almost daily basis. Frequently aimed at me. Why even say that you don’t?
@aspnaz wrote: “Please don’t threaten people, it is a display of weakness and is rather sad to see…”There ya go, lying again. Lying is not valid argument. It makes the liar look like a liar. I did not “threaten” … “people”. I TOLD citizenx (AFTER he had an unprovoked “rather rude and hostile” go at me first) that if he didn’t stop doing that then I would retaliate. Now I COULD have just counter attacked immediately (he certainly deserved it at that time) but I considered it more civilized to issue a warning first.
Is self defense and fair warning a threat or sign of weakness? That’s debatable. Opinions vary. In my opinion it’s just an occasional unpleasant necessity to dissuade an attacker from further aggression. Sometimes it works, and sometimes (such as in your case) it’s just a polite waste of time.
And one more thing about that. Don’t say that you find it “rather sad” to see. That’s just another lie because you didn’t find it “sad”. Re-read what you just wrote, man! There was no hint of “sadness” in your snide admonishment. Pretentious hostility, yes, sadness, no.
@aspnaz wrote, “You may still think you are tough but we can all see that your days of fighting are over…”
Note by a longshot, you young whippersnapper. This old geezer has plenty of fight left in him! Why if I wasn’t stuck in this wheelchair by that damned oxygen hose I’d come over there and smack you with my walking stick!
@aspnaz wrote, “You are basically rude and hostile and would do better to snap out of it.”Well, I’m not BASICALLY rude or hostile, but I can manage both fairly well when the situation calls for it. Fuck around and find out.
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Participant@DrDRich
While it’s true that they are only words on a web page that web page is one of my few remaining and cherished links to the great circle humanity that resides outside beyond the confines of my community of old German farm families here in semi-rural Missouri.
My real gripe with CitezenX and the other vociferous Jew Hater cheering section over there in the cheap seats is that their knowledge of history seems to start at the Old Testament, as if “Jews” suddenly popped into existence as the source of all evil out of nowhere like Aristotle’s “spontaneous generation” of salamanders from mud.
The stone cold psychopaths that run the Jews would just be delighted if the world vented its ire on that old Fall Guy, AGAIN!, which is why they nurture the anti-semitism so hard. Hey, it’s perfectly okay with them if the Jews take the heat and get mowed down. Go for it! Keeps the heat off the real bad guys.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantTone down the hostility and disrespectful stuff directed at me personally, Bub, or I will take a direct run at YOU, and I assure you that you will not like it. Last warning.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantA funny thought just occurred to me as I was posting the previous comment. I’ve been posting stuff here on TAE for going on 12 years now, and the bulk of those essays (if read with an unfriendly eye) might come across as unsolicited advice (a thing that is seldom welcome). That would be too bad because it has never been intended that way. It has always been simply to share what I think I have found.
In point of fact, my essays and comments have actually been just an elaborate way to record “Notes To Self” that others were welcome to read and consider if they wanted to. Who knows, maybe to think about or even use, if they were of a mind to. In any case, my attitude about what I write and share has always been that it was my duty to share information which I had personally found to be true and worthwhile.
So, what may look to others as my advice to them is actually my advice to myself, posted here as a means of fully articulating (and keeping track of) those things that I need to know or remember and do.
Judging from all that advice I’ve given to myself it seems rather conclusive that I’m a guy who needs a lot of improvement.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantThere are a lot of “opinions” flying around recently, according to a handful of dyed-in-the-wool goddam liars.
Never mistake a lie as an “opinion”. When the so-called “opinion is obviously, documentably, transparently, tangibly, patently, KNOWINGLY actually false then it is not an opinion at all. It is a lie.
Lies are deliberate, and they all have one thing in common. They are told to deflect from a TRUTH, which it is in your best interests to know as the truth. The liar doesn’t want you to know to know that particular truth because if you did know it then you would benefit and the liar would face justice. That’s why they lied. They knowingly want to ILLICITLY benefit themselves by HARMING you.
Liars are therefore a lot more malicious and dangerous than they would like you to think.
And that’s not just my opinion.
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Participant@aspnaz (with a side call out to @citizenx and @CelticBiker
I am prepared to put money on it that well over 90% of USA Jews are Zionists.” [end quote]
And you would probably win that bet (although the percentage is more likely 75 or 80). But the point that I would make is that you could just as easily wager that 90% of Zionists are NOT Jewish, and win that bet, too.
A lot of Jews work for the so-called “Zionists”, who both predate the Jews, outrank the Jews, and are more evil than the nastiest Shylock that ever walked the Earth. Don’t take the BAIT, aspnaz, go for the guys holding the hooks, lines and fishing poles.
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ParticipantD Benton Smith said
the interview will be a world changing event
Sort of Tucker Carlton’s “Jesus rising from the dead” moment? Do we all get to live happily ever after?”
All of us except you, aspnaz. You get to live “adolescently sarcastic ever after.” Don’t be in such a rush to make me look silly. Wait until the film comes out. There will be plenty of time for you poke fun at me and make me appear wrong and stupid after the real Putin-Carlson interview is actually published.
That weird and cryptic piece published in the French “Les Manchette” rag looks totally fishy. It’s choppy and full of non sequitur questions & answers, plus there is no accompanying video and as of this morning there is still no such interview published on Carlson’s own website or Twitter-X.
What it looks like to me is that some ambitious would-be double-agent near the action received a partial transcript (probably just a teaser compiled of outtakes) and leaked it to make a little side cash and screw with the release of the real thing. Who the hell is “Les Manchette, anyway? Is there some sensible reason that they would get this material (sans video) before anyone else in the whole world?
Let’s just see what develops over the next few days. You’ll have plenty of time to help me make a fool of myself after the smoke clears and an actual video-taped interview is published.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantI may have apologized too soon. Sure would hate to find out that I was right all along, right after recanting my dire predictions.. Tucker Carlson’s interview of Putin has not yet been released. The real one may be as much as an hour long, NOT soft-ball or lackluster, and probably aired towards the end of Friday, Feb 9.
Might as well wait to apologize until AFTER I’m wrong, so I hereby recant my earlier recantation and am going back to my original predictions that the interview will be a world changing event, diplomatically conveying the factual defeat of the Western Empire and basically laying out the new ground rules for the next century or so. Fingers crossed.
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ParticipantIf that was the much awaited Carlson-Putin interview then I must say that I am terribly disappointed. Worse than disappointed. I was wrong.
At this stage all I can do is mourn, hope for more, and begin recalibrating my crystal ball.
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ParticipantCarlson did not say “rule of law” or equal protection under the law he said majority rule.
if i were Mr. Putin i would not help Carlson if his teeth were on fire.’ ”
There is only Rule of the Majority or Rule by a Minority. There isn’t, in actual reality, any “in-between” called “rule of law” or anything else. The so-called “Rule of Law” is, by definition, dependent upon what the law happens to be, and whether or not the laws in question are evenly enforced or not. That determination is made by somebody or a group of somebody’s. does that somebody represent a minority or the majority?
In other words, does the Majority get to determine what the law is m(and how it’s enforced), or is that final adjudication determined and decided by a Minority?
That question puts us right back at the starting point: Does the Majority rule on that matter, or does a minority get to make that decision for everybody else?
Putin quite obviously WANTS to have Tucker in Moscow, just as he obviously WANTS to be interviewed. Otherwise, Putin would never have let the man into his country in the first place.
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ParticipantQuoting from your comment: ““However, I work in IT — will ignoring this piece of tech cause me future problems? Or…will it be a boon to me as the people around me become dependent upon AI, rather than bothering to develop the mental skills that my generation had to develop in order to function at a high level? Right now, I don’t know the answer. But relying on my wits and experience has served me very well, especially during the last decade, so I will continue.” [end quote]
You strike upon a very important and pertinent point, that I think is worth extracting from your specific example and re-stating it as generalized truth.
AI is a tool that, like any tool, can be used either to ENHANCE AND EXPAND an existing skill, or used instead as a replacement or complete substitute for more basic skills, in which case that precedent skill is never learned and mastered in the first place. That strategy (for example, using a pocket calculator as a SUBSTITUTE and REPLACEMENT for mastery of basic math such as arithmetic) can give an INITIAL advantage to the adopter because they can avoid years and even decades of preparatory work and thereby get an apparent head start on people who stick to the old fashion way. BUT, it will also leave them high, dry and down the creek without a paddle if and when pocket calculators disappear or go out of style.
Since you are well aware of the dangers and shortcomings of so-called “AI” it’s probably fine for you to learn and use AI to your heart’s content. It would be like an Master Craftsman of hand tools using a table saw from time to time to rip stacks of rough lumber into clean straight boards . . . which can then be crafted into masterpieces with deftly applied hand tools.
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ParticipantWhat do Russian people-on-the-street think about Tucker Carlson and his presence in Moscow? Have a listen here : https://youtu.be/EcpHS0qBuOk?si=9d6jflLda08DJC50
NOTE that around minute 12:20 the YouTube based news-show host Clayton Morris “let slip” that Tucker had just spoken with him THIS MORNING, FROM MOSCOW. Say what? BIG old Tucker Carlson called LITTLE old Clayton Morris to chat about things?
That’s right, folks. This Putin-Carlson interview is being ramped up in the public arena to unprecedented proportions, and with penultimate skill.
I’ll say it again. Ihat interview is going to be a BUNKER BUSTER.
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ParticipantThe Constitutionally Founded United States of America, circa 2024
Too big to fail.
Too rotten to save.
Too many to hang.D Benton Smith
ParticipantChristopher Wray is pure scum, his mouth is usually full of maggots falling out on the floor when he speaks.”
That metaphor is as Brilliant as it is disgusting. What perfect imagery. Well done, Oroboyo !
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ParticipantThe IT guys really have got their shit together and are fishing for VC idiots using the “emergent ability” worm, the worm that no VC idiot can ignore – how do you explain that to the boss – but that no VC idiot can ever predict. Thay have to drink from this cup, they have no choice, the AI boys have them by the balls …. I love it.”
Yeah, and what makes the irony triply delicious is that the only “emergent” hallucinations that emerge from AI could only ever be just increasingly clever and deceptive SIMULATIONS of “emergent qualities”, using large language model based AI to create the deceptive simulation. They ain’t NEVER going to get consciously sentient awareness to “Emerge” from their machinery because there ain’t any in it. No matter how convincing the fake “emergence” can be made to appear (to Venture Capital idiots) it is still just fake, all the way down to infinity and beyond.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantIt looks like we are still in the “pre-event promotion” phase of the Putin-Carlson interview operation. Seems to be ramping up nicely. More and more tension and interest being generated, as people react and respond to the POSSIBILITY and ramifications of this big thing that has not even happened yet.
As an almost reformed professional PR Man I just have to express my admiration (bordering on awe) for how well they are prepping the “probably” forthcoming event. Oh, it’s forthcoming alright !! So many top drawer people would not be spending so much of their valuable time and treasure on it if they were not already 100% committed to carrying it through to completion.
When the audience is at its peak of interest, attention and receptiveness, when they are almost peeing their pants in anticipation, than the hammer will drop. It’s all about conditions and timing, and in my not altogether humble opinion the guys who are producing this bit of SERIOUS theater are the best of the best professionals in the Biz.
I think that the interview has been in production for days now, and that the final editing and so forth will be ready well before its anticipated release date of 6:00 pm Friday (United States Eastern Standard Time) to allow for maximum impact and “soak-in” time over the weekend.
For some other event I might have advised grabbing some popcorn, but in this case I would advise foregoing the snacks because you’re going to want to have both hands free for holding on to your chair.
Prepare to hear statements of fact that are for all practical purposes already fait accompli. The interview would not even have been ALLOWED to occur if the primary opponents in the conflict had not already come to terms to the degree that primary opponents can ever come to terms about anything. Basically, the announcement will be that the winner has won, the loser has lost, and here are the new rules and conditions. It will all be very very diplomatically presented, of course. The victor (Putin) will make the pronouncements as “face savingly” palatable and acceptable as possible. But make no mistake about the fact that his statement ARE enforceable rules and conditions, and that he has the guns to prove it.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantIn a roundabout, “Freudian Slippage” sort of way Chuck Schumer’s verbal diarrhea about the terrible consequences of closing the Southern border ALMOST says the quiet part out loud. Basically he fear mongers that if millions of illegal aliens aren’t allowed to flood into America then all sorts of bad things will result, like an end to the wars in Gaza, Ukraine, and U.S. Departments of Justice and State.
He says that stopping voters … oops!, I mean illegal “immigrants” ….from streaming across the Rio Grand would cause Israel to lose in its last ditch effort to prolong its international crime spree by murdering all Palestinians. He then adds a similar dark consequence in Ukraine, where efforts to shatter Russia into pieces so that it’s resources can be stripped, would fail.
But what he is actually confessing is that if the Democrats can’t steal the next election then the Democrats will LOSE the election and therefore LOSE the ability to promulgate the long list of CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY that they have been using to enrich themselves and retain the reins of power, so as to be able to go on doing that forever.
Because face it, ALL of the horrible and horrifying monstrously evil atrocities that they have been committing are ALL simply actions designed to result in the “Democrats” (which is actually a much MUCH broader Cabal of trans-national murderous minions, masters, and Zionists) enriching themselves, and then USING that wealth to buy more power to crush opposition and just continue like that until the end of time.
It really is as simple (and lunatic) as that. It is NOT a complicated strategy. It’s the meat-brained calculations of rapacious and cowardly thugs.
Thanks Chuck! We knew that’s what you’ve been up to, but it is SO nice to hear you just come right out and say it.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantGood to hear about King Chuck’s cancer. It’s well past time for Charley to take a break in Hell for some remedial lessons in human decency before returning to the world stage (as a wharf rat, perhaps). Civilization, like Science, tends to advance one death at a time.
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ParticipantSo maybe we all would possibly benefit from the wisdom coming from China on matters of the comportment of Empires.. They are the experts, ya know? If ever there was a nation that should know about the rising and falling of Empires, China has got to be it because they’ve built and burned to ground so many empires that they’re lost count. It’s got to be a couple of dozen that we know of, and probably that many more that have just been forgotten altogether.
Of course there is that annoying little question that if they’re so damn smart about how to do it properly, then why do those previous attempted keep on burning to the ground every time, and WHY in God’s name do they keep on doing it anyway? Isn’t that the definition of insanity?
In their favor, though, at least one good book resulted from all of those abysmal (and repeated) failures and violent deaths (measured in the BILLIONS, not millions, surely.) I speak of “The Art of War”.
My only further comment about that wonderfully concise little treatise on the proper management of mayhem is that it needs a more descriptive name. Instead of calling it “The Art of War” it should more accurately be entitled, “Professional’s Handbook on How to Obtain and Retain Personal Power By Deceiving, Enslaving and Killing People in Large Numbers.” That’s a bit cumbersome for a book title, I suppose, so let’s shorten it down to something a bit more catchy, like “User’s Manual for Psychopaths”
Absolutists in the audience should really go for that one. I know Genghis Kahn sure did, and he was a real whiz-bang at murdering innocent women and children for fun and profit. Chairman Mao was no slouch, either.
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ParticipantOh, and to preempt aspnaz’s outrage at my perceived slight to his cognitive prowess, let me say that I do not disrespect him in the least. In fact I have a rather high regard for him and his potential to eventually learn how to think soundly. If I thought he was a weak sister delicate flower I wouldn’t be so blunt in calling out his errors for precisely what they are.
He’s tough, and pugnacious, too. He’ll get pissed off, flash back a snotty (and poorly considered) reply and in so doing will reveal yet another of those wrong-headed notions that can be taken up and corrected in it’s turn. It’s a step-by-step process, that is doubtlessly quite annoying for him, but entertaining and encouraging for the rest of us. Hang in there, aspnaz. You’ll get there.
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Participant@DrD
Don’t bother to take what @aspnaz says very seriously. He’s TRYING to think but so far can’t seem to get much further than adolescent absolutism, which allows very few shades of gray, and absolutely no capacity to consider (or even imagine) that there are thoughts or minds or truths existing at levels any higher than his own. (they don’t call such thinking “sophomoric” for no reason.)
He IS trying, but needs more practice and experience, which he is certainly getting a fair share of here!
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ParticipantI think that there is far too little attention being paid to the speculated upcoming interview of Vladimir Putin by Tucker Carlson.
I think this for a number of reasons, but the most solidly real of those reasons is the fact that Tucker Carlson is actually in Moscow, going to various places just like a free man doing as he pleases, AND NOBODY STOPPED HIM FROM DOING THAT.
Think about that for a moment. The deep state absolutely hates Carlson because he reports truthful things about them. That same deep state hates Putin even worse because he is winning the Great Game (despite their most desperate efforts to crush him) and Putin too tends to report dangerously truthful things about them.
And yet the American “powers that be” (such as they pathetically are) did not stop Carlson (their most hated reporter) from going to the home city of their most feared enemy to meet for the presumed purpose of saying a whole new LEVEL of dangerously, painfully, truthfully new things about America being SO WEAK AND HELPLESS that it could not even stop that event from taking place.
Tucker wasn’t ANTIFA’ed, de-passported, arrested, shot down accidentally over the North Atlantic, or even seriously criticized in the press.
Add to this the fact that Putin OBVIOUSLY wanted Tucker to show up, else Tucker would not have been permitted to even cross the Russian border (much less be welcomed with open arms . . . which is how he is being received and entertained.)
Here’s what I think is going on. I think that the Russian-Yankee War is now over (it’s been predictably unwinnable from the start.) Spoiler: America got it’s head handed to it on a platter. The terms of the Peace Treaty have been energetically negotiated to Putin’s satisfaction and Tucker is now in Moscow to announce those results to the slumbering American general public and the rest of the world.
Russia chose Carlson as the means of communication because not only does he have the largest audience in the world, but the world knows and believes him as a Truth Teller even when they don’t like what he says.
My estimate is that the terms of surrender are going to be VERY firm, but surprisingly more benevolent and acceptable than the West has any reasonable reason to expect. It certainly doesn’t deserve good treatment, considering that it has behaved monstrously, had its ass RESOUNDINGLY whupped in all theaters of conflict, and has consequently been forced to surrender pretty much unconditionally.
Sounds kinda “out there”, I know, but if my analysis is anywhere close to being correct then we are about to hear in unambiguous language what shall be the short and medium term fate of the planet Earth.
And it’s not going to be as bad as you probably thought it was.
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Participantdoesn’t this also suggest there is no BOSS god who oversees the just and the good and actively brings these about? The kind and the innocent are kicked senseless, and the compassionate and the thoughtful arrested and imprisoned. The governments all reveal their injustice, inhumanity, immorality. The lack of punishment and the inversion of ethics lead one to infer the BOSSES are cruel and mad —for cops and politics and gangs. IF THIS IS A WORTHY INFRENCE [capitalization added by D Benton Smith for emphasis], it seems reasonable to likewise conclude: the BOSS of BOSSES is cruelest and maddest, the KING of KINGS is worst.”
To respond as succinctly as possible my answer is that the inference you make is NOT valid, and therefore your conclusion from that inference is also logically (and actually) false.
I think that the most serious flaw in your proposed logic is the leap from Civil Police Force political wangling to Theological Philosophy without touching the ground anywhere in between.
The Creator of the Universe seems to have bequeathed Free Will to its various more or less sentient inhabitants, like thee and me for example. That means we are free to be wrong and evil, if we so choose, and thus free to invariably experience the inevitable consequences of being wrong in a Universe that follows the law of cause and effect.
Does that provision of absolute free will make the Boss of Bosses cruel and mad, or does it simply mean that the Boss of Bosses is intractably DEPENDABLE ?
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Participant@DrD From yesterday, comment #151871 ,
Compare with the SWAT article yesterday. But the police can’t do nothin’! Except shoot anyone they like and get away with it all day for 20 years. But other than that, they’re totally helpless!”
I think you’re not reading the tea leaves deeply enough on this one, Doc. The cops can NOT shoot anyone they like with impunity like they’ve been doing for 20 years of SWAT supremacy. They can only shoot whoever their BOSSES want shot with total impunity. The cops can NOT shoot illegal immigrants or BLM goon squads or prominent child molesters . . . all of whom have now been guaranteed carte blanche permission and encouragement to fuck up as many cops as they want to (with no fear of punishment).
In other words, the cops BOSSES are telling the cops in no uncertain terms that any cop who goes off the reservation will be TOAST by shooting any member of the officially protected class. By the phrase “go off the reservation” I mean to say any cop who refuses to shoot good guys and/or tries to shoot bad guys, will be considered to be OFF THE RESERVATION, and subject disciplinary action such as getting their heads kicked senseless by a gang of professional criminal illegal immigrants (who are now part of the PROTECTED class because they’re more than willing to go along with the BOSSES’ agenda.
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ParticipantThe story about those New York cops getting jumped and beaten by immigrant delinquents is bigger than it looks. How long do you suppose the NYPD is going to take being thrown under the bus as Fair Game for any immigrant criminal to kill at will? Not very long, I reckon, and when the cops STOP taking it then what happens next?
That’s where this is headed and I see no indication that it’s changing directions.
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ParticipantI (me and everybody else, apparently) want to talk about Elon Musk’s so-called “compensation package” .
So Elon’s pay is hard welded to the financial performance of his company. Am I supposed to be happy, grateful and worshipfully admiring about how brave and honest he is by taking such an unheard of outlandishly risky risk? Should I place him seated at the right hand of God for being so “buck stops here” style RESPONSIBLE?
Well, maybe yes and maybe no. It all depends on two little things.
The first little thing is the question of who actually put up the dough for all that investment. Where did the cash dollars that built all those factories and products come from? Who took that financial risk by coughing up so many billions and trillions of hard dollars earned by hard work? In other words, whose frigging money was “risked” in the first frigging place! Was it Elon’s money, or was it OUR money?
Correct me if I’m wrong but I seem to remember that all of Elon’s big risky adventures were (and continue to be) paid for by the Government. Paid in advance while ramping up and paid for again after delivery, and all of it paid from tax dollars and Federal Reserve debt, that was pumped out of OUR pockets and on up through the Military-Industrial complex, straight into Elon’s pocket.
So, what did WE get in return for all that risk we took? Point to what we got. I would love to see it because right now I’m looking hard to find any kind of pig in that poke and it just keeps on looking like an empty poke.
So if it was us who took all of the risk by underwriting all that government issued debt why wasn’t it us who received all the profits? (or ANY of the profits, for that matter.) What, exactly, did Musk risk and invest? Kindly identify the items (along with their fair value) , in the form of a simple list, that lays out what he chipped in as his personal contributions to the total enterprise. I would love to see such a list, especially compared side-by-side with the list of what all the rest of us pitched in.
The second little thing on my short list of fishy little things about Musk’s status as richest (and thereby best, smartest, most important and wonderful) human being in the whole world is a little question about whether or not the things he is being credited with producing are worth what was paid for them.
You know, the rocket ships, sky-net satellites, self-erasing lithium cars, dank tunnels under Los Angeles and perennially promised (and yet to be delivered) cruises to Mars. Are any of those things actually worth anything to you?
Yeah, I know they are all fantastically difficult, flashy and impressive endeavors that only an OCD genius could accomplish, but that’s not the question. The question is whether or not they are WORTH anything, and in particular are they worth anything to YOU, relative to what they cost you (and are STILL costing you.
Seems to me the only people those things have much value to (or usefulness for) are the already obscenely rich powerful assholes who used YOUR money to obtain them for their own benefit alone, and leaving YOU with bupkis and an abraded rectum.
Let’s recap. Your money was given to people like Musk to supervise the building useless shit they dreamed up without asking you about, at YOUR incomprehensibly enormous expense (possibly QUADRILLIONS of dollars equivalent) , thereby turning the controllers into untouchable billionaires and turning the CONTROLLED POPULATION into dirt poor debilitated disposable meat robot deplorables.
Sure looks like a great deal to me, but not necessarily very much FOR me. Or you either, I bet.
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ParticipantI am of decidedly Irish heritage. Irony is our specialty. If you aren’t convinced that Irish history isn’t proof of the fact then just look at our literature and humor. Irony is definitely our thing. Luck of the Irish, and all that. Ah, well, it could have been worse, so I count myself lucky for that.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantIt’s mildly amusing in a saddening sort of way that the people who want other people to fight in wars have absolutely no intention to fight in any wars themselves. Quite the contrary. They are dead sure and damn determined that they themselves will not ever have to physically fight under any circumstances. The best way to assure that one doesn’t have to fight in a war is to get someone else to fight a war to keep that from happening.
What makes this double funny is that the people who actually do fight in wars (you know, FIGHT, as in hit and bleed, kill and die kind of fighting) only do so because they reckon that they have to, that they must fight because they have no other choice. They consider that they have no better alternatives, and so they do what they think they must. They choose to fight. The ridiculous irony is that they are fighting to protect the lives, treasure and sacred honor of the assholes who are forcing them into it. You remember who they are, right? They’re the assholes who don’t want to fight. They’re also the assholes who have done all the bad stuff that people are fighting about. Talk about psychological projection!!!. That’s really knocking it up a few notches. Like all the way to the top of the scale.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantI sure hope that I never earn your reprobation, because you really do know how to dole it out in a calm, measured and rational manner that leaves no room for excuses or avenue of escape. Very well done.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantThe PBS documentary on the January 6 Committee is just astonishing, and most especially the statement from Adam Kinzinger that it opened with. Listen carefully. In stating that the information they had was compelling, BEFORE the hearings started, is a public confession that the committee had reached its verdict BEFORE it received evidence. You’re not allowed to do that in a legal proceeding because reaching a verdict prior to receiving evidence completely invalidates the process. It doesn’t just prove the fact that the hearings were a sham, it literally throws out of court all of the evidence and testimony given after the fact.
It’s also a flat out admission that the Committee committed fraud. The alleged and reported purpose of the committee was to investigate, a gather facts from testimony, reach a conclusion based on that evidence, and then report their findings and recommendation accordingly. Kinzinger unambiguously goes on record stating that that is NOT what they did.
As an aside, since when is story telling the job that Legislators are tasked with, paid for, and contractually obligated to perform? That ain’t their job. That’s not what they’re paid to do. In fact, it is a straight up breech of contract with the citizens who paid their salaries.
So if they’re not fulfilling their contractual obligations to the citizens, then who are they working for? In other words, who are they telling the story FOR? That’s a fair question. Who was the Committee working for? Who tasked them with telling the story they were given to tell before the hearings even began?
For that matter, who told them that their job was story telling rather than legislating? Obviously the “who” who gave them the job is someone they considered to be their real boss.
I think an in depth investigation of the Jan 6 Committee itself, along with all of its proceedings and influences would be one helluva lot more fascinating to the viewing public than the boring crap that they actually produced.
Question number one might be, who do the committee members take directions and orders from? Who do they actually work for. What do those command channels actually look like? Who’s doing what, with which, to whom, and why are they doing it?
D Benton Smith
ParticipantBut VP does make at least one valid point about the state of the public psyche in America. Every single vote in favor of a Democrat Party contender represents an ostensibly adult American individual with their head so far up their ass that it would take a tonsillectomy to remove it.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantIt’s okay to call something Satanist when it is , literally and actually, Satanist. Otherwise people aren’t going to know whether or not you are certain enough of your facts (and brave enough) to go on the public record that something is what it is.
D Benton Smith
Participant@VeraciousPoet
At least one person cares. I care. I want to know what those confessors said to you. Waste a paragraph or two of your time and just say it aloud. Sure, we’ve all heard the standard issue of “leaked” and “discredited”, so-called conspiracy theories.
But we haven’t heard it from you. You are a first hand eye witness of what certain people-in-the-know confessed to you in a moment of stress. I for one, am going to believe, with a VERY high assignment of credibility , precisely what you tell me about what those guys said to you.
Just spit it out.
D Benton Smith
Participant@VeraciousPoet
So, “When 9-11 happened there was a come-to-jay’sus! moment, where some of them *confessed* to me & others a few dirty tidbits,” what were the dirty tidbits? Share them with us. Nobody outside of you has heard them stated in public. Now’s the time, man. Tell us what you know.
D Benton Smith
Participant@DrD
So what the ** Hell ** is it???”
Well, I can tell ya, but you probably won’t be encouraged by the answer.
The “it” that is literally what the fuck is going on, is that the the counterparty in such “THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS” type of nonsensical encounters has only ONE objective motivating their behavior in such cases: they are intent upon doing what their boss told them to do, so that they can continue pleasing the boss and collecting their pay-check (or perhaps even getting a raise in pay for good performance in carrying out destructive orders. That’s it, and that’s all. Literally EVERYTHING else is window dressing arranged to create the illusion that they are doing something other than that.
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