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@JohnDay
You raise a lot of good points in a densely packed couple of paragraphs, and all of them are moving targets. And of course there is also that perpetual bug bear of knowing “what” will happen, but not “when.”
But before taking them up let me start by commenting that if my view is optimistic then that is a bad moon rising, because I see trouble on the way.
Let’s start with money. In the same way that Russia will launch hardware toward Western decision making centers without warning at the moment that they believe it’s necessary in order to PREVENT deadly harm to the Motherland , so will all Capitalists everywhere abandon the dollar instantly and without warning the moment that they predictively believe it necessary in order to PREVENT (i.e. stop the loss BEFORE it happens) annihilation of their wealth. Only the first who bolt for the door have a chance of getting out, and my crystal ball and Emote -O-Meter tells me they are already teetering at the pinnacle of anticipatory apprehension. In other words, the US doesn’t have to actually default. All it has to do to start the stampede is accidentally or on purpose cause the BELIEF that it’s imminent.
On the positive hopium side of things, I’m not that apprehensive about kinetic war raining down on America because not only has the Ukraine war already been lost, but the Russians are NEVER going to take the bait of escalating the war beyond the point where it is now because they are winning every aspect of the war just as it is now. Why fuck with success while you’re succeeding?
I think the US is about to move on to the next proxy war, perhaps Pakistan vs China, Israel vs Iran or the big dog Taiwan vs China. The US ain’t near big enough to take either Russia or China head-to-head, but still has plenty of juice to goad smaller fry into sacrificing themselves like Ukraine just did.
How many fatal mistakes can a nation (or any entity, for that matter) make before the results are fatal?
And how many fatal mistakes in a row (uninterrupted by right action) can a nation (or any entity, for that matter) make before the conclusion must be drawn that the presumed “mistakes” are not mistakes at all . . . . but are instead purposeful actions aimed not at success, but at deliberate failure?
Examined from that almost unthinkable perspective the seemingly senseless recent actions of the Collective Western Empire suddenly make perfect sense after all.
If the objective is failure then the Empire of lies is doing a near perfect job.
My carefully considered opinion is that such a bizarrely insane intent (explicitly planned in fine detail) is precisely the case. To resolve it before it results in our personal premature extinction requires that we see that penultimately misguided leadership for what it is.
The purposefully deliberate nature of the ongoing democide must be openly acknowledge to exist, and its perpetrators identified and excised from all positions of power over others.
P.S.
The next round fired into the quivering three-quarters-dead carcass of Western society will be the attempt to default on the United States national debt, delivering the instantaneous kill shot to the dollar. I’m not suggesting that it could happen or might happen. I’m of the opinion that it WILL happen, because the hand at the helm of the Empire is unswervingly dedicated to objective of physical murder-suicide against the species homo sapiens.The Empire of Lies is ruled by the Lord of the Flies.
Strange indeed the memories that are unexpectedly revived on this forum. The opening salvo so well presented by TAE Summary reminded me that back in the day ( and I mean WAY back in the day) small boys actually did sometimes have peeing competitions, to see who could stream the farthest. It was not so much about who won the contest, and more about the sheer joy of pissing for distance.
So the situation in Ukraine seems to be that Russia has no choice but to go on winning until it has won, and the US NATO gang has no option other than losing.
The difficulty in acquiring good judgement with regard to bears is that bad judgement in dealing with bears so often ends in the final judgement.
@aspnaz speculated, “. . . maybe the globalizers have infiltrated BRICS.”
Almost certainly so. Rich folks tend to protect their necks and their wealth. That’s sure what the Nazis did
“Plus, I have found, when engaging with Jensenites, the CENTRAL, CORE TENETS ARE KEPT PROTECTED BY BEING SECRET. [all caps added by me] . . . .
. . . . . Heat and CO2 are not what the person on the other end of the discussion truly cares about. It was a red herring thrown out for me to expend my energies on. And any castigation of me over the Heat/Co2 battlefield was fully justified by the secret and undisputed real Truth. “I’M STILL RIGHT AND I WON’T TELL YOU WHY” [all caps added by me]I changed the case of those two phrases you wrote to ‘all caps’ format to emphasize the two points you observed that I wanted to comment about.
As you suggested, the secret that they are keeping is a particular and crucial thing or belief or idea or fact that they are using as a stable fundamental datum to assure themselves that they are RIGHT in what they are thinking and doing, and which proves that you are WRONG for opposing that in any way whatsoever.
Revelation or discussion of that secret consideration or belief does not need to be revealed or discussed, you see, because it has already been set in stone as an irrevocably established fact or truth (so no need for further discussion, right?)
Furthermore (and this is important !), revelation or discussion of that secret consideration or belief MUST not ( emphasis: MUST NOT ) be revealed or discussed because to do so would instantaneously expose that the thought or fact which they’re using as the lynch pin of their position is so transparently and obviously false or reprehensible or evil that its exposure would instantly destroy their position.
Hence censorship. Hence vicious, total, perhaps even violent silencing and destruction of any and every attempt to bring such topics of discussion to public view.
So in the case of the Jensenites (and WEF, and Vaxxers, and Eugenicists, etc.) we must ask, what IS the unspeakable secret belief, thought, or alleged fact.) ?
They believe that humankind is a pox and abomination that the world would be better off without altogether. The secret intention is to remove it entirely from the face of the Earth and/or redesign it to their own self-serving specifications so completely that humankind as it now exists would bear little or no resemblance to the new and improved version that they envision.
The starting point, the ultimate core, of the fake problems and red-herring arguments in favor of fatally stupid “solutions” is the fact their entire program is deliberately, purposefully, aimed toward the objective of a world devoid of actual human beings.
Obviously that is a fact that they do not want to talk about except in the most incomprehensibly vague, falsified or misleading fashion. Open admission of the stark fact that extincting the species is their unambiguous intention is absolutely forbidden, for obvious reason. THAT is the big secret. Consequently they have no reservations (other than raw fear) to obstructing in any way or killing in any manner, anyone and everyone who opposes that agenda. What the hell, right?, just one less human to rub out later on.
See, I just knew there was a reason all of us here at TAE wanted you to keep hanging round. Your comment #127526 is absolutely brilliant, and warrants really careful study and further development.
Tick another box done on RAND’s recommended Do-List for the US Dept of selfish greedy lying homicidal idiots. What a wonderful government to live for and obey.
There seems to be some kind of message in all of this, if we could just figure out what it is in time to fix it.
The Pentagon’s latest proxy war (the favorite club in their bag) seems to be against United States citizens, en masse and regardless of affiliation or political druthers. If you’re not a wanton thief and killer on the Pentagon’s team, then you are fair game.
And of course by “Pentagon” is meant the entire menagerie of slimey creatures of the swamp and lower.
But to even suggest that the itemized checklist of perfidious lethality ordered up and paid for by America’s Military Industrial Complex, and produced by that criminal gang’s in-house think tank, RAND, were implemented in any way is instantly dismissed as conspiracy theory and forbidden from open discussion of “The Russia Problem”.
@WES “Bosco and DBS are having a word fest!”
Indeed, and when such Titans of verbosity wrassle the very Earth trembles and shakes !
No reports back yet from the seismologists, but I’m waiting expectantly.
@JohnDay “Wazzup with the Molotov Ribbentrop secret pact, guys?”
At first I wished that I knew, and now I just wish it was over. The tone of the answer that you got from him in response to your civil question is a clue. Further inquiry is probably not a good investment of time and attention. Humans !, ya know? Sometimes the best plan is just shrug and go on.
Renounced awareness is comparable to a celestial Black Hole, and like its celestial cousin has its own Event Horizon, beneath which nothing can escape and therefore no one on the outside can see what’s going on inside.
All that we can observe is that once someone goes in, they don’t come out.
Well in that case I could just change my log-in name to something else (like Madamski, for example) and sneak one in under the radar. By the time you realized it was me it you would have already paid attention until it was too late to ignore me.
At any rate the new deal is better than the old one, which was becoming a time and attention wasting pain in the butt.
See how hard it is to criticize someone you believe to be wrong without directly addressing that person . . . like you just did?
Fer chrissake, Boz, climb your kindygarden ass out of your “I’m having a tantrum and will hold my breath until you stop being mean to me” sandbox and start acting like an adult.
Only the most severely spiritually and mentally ill could actually like death. It is, after all, a failure to succeed in the quest for life. The vast vast majority of living beings prefer life and living.
And yet, as we all know, organic life . . . with all of the thrills and spills that it enables . . . . is literally and factually impossible without death. Living beings eat living beings, which tends to be quite fatal for the food. In other words, a world without death would necessarily also be a world without life.
Anyone here up for a world without life?
Dear Boz,
I have not reneged on the deal nor do I have any intention to do so in the foreseeable future, however, it is occasionally necessary structure a sentence or paragraph in such a way that it makes grammatical and logical sense to the general reader. I have, and continue, to avoid those situations when possible, but sometimes it just don’t work. When that happens the reader is expected to not take it personally, but to recognize that the author is merely (and impersonally) adhering to the principle of rhetorical hygiene.
I do not know how many people will die or become catastrophically ill from the vax, but I do know what will happen to every person who is emotionally bonded to those victims. They will, at best, become barely functional for an extended period of time of at least 1-3 years, and remain seriously emotionally and cognitively impacted (not entirely for the worse, but mostly so) for the remainder of their own lives.
If the number of dead and injured exceeds a certain proportion (and once again, that is a number that I do not know) then civilization itself will consequently be severely operationally degraded for that time period as well. Perhaps 3 or 4 generations, guesstimate. Compare the Bronze Age Collapse (1,200 BCE) or Europe’s slow recovery from the Black Death ( starting 1350 CE).
The above scenario is already locked in because large numbers of people have been poisoned (though not all to the same degree). It’s a done deed.
The other aspects of the deliberately engineered “polycrisis” will play out in more complexly variable ways, but the impact of extensive excess deaths is a lock-cinch, and must be reckoned in to the other calculations accordingly.
Tough times in any case. But we’re tough.
Humanity is a death cult, comma . . . .with more than half of them trying to escape, and the remaining hard core cultists trying to drag them back in to die.
All governments are Tyrants. That’s the whole idea. Government is, by its very definition, the fact of some people (bosses) telling other people (citizens) what they can or cannot do. If the bosses can enforce the rules then the rules will be enforced. Them’s the rules.
For examples: you can’t rob banks, kill your neighbor, or evade taxes.
For more examples: you can’t tell the truth, refuse the vax, or vote for Trump.
We are, and by our own choice we shall always be, ruled over by a whole host of tyrants. Some will rule by our willing choice, and some will rule against our will by brute force.
That’s pretty bad, alright . . . . being ruled over by a host of tyrants . . . . but there is something a whole lot worse than being bossed around by a bunch of bullies.
What’s worse than being ruled over by a host of tyrants?
Answer: being ruled over by ONE tyrant.
If you repaid a million dollar debt at the rate of a dollar per second, 24/7 around the clock, you would free and clear in just 1l days.
Paying back a debt of a billion dollars at the same rate of a dollar per second it would take a bit longer, like thirty one and a half years.
A Trillion dollar debt, at a dollar per second, every second, would take thirty one thousand six hundred and eighty-eight years.
The US owes roughly 32 Trillion.
I wonder whose dollars they intend to use.Escalation of hostility is a strange beast. Response to the hostile action of a hostile beast has less to do with what the beast actually does, and more to do with one’s estimate of what it will do in the foreseeable future. This estimate is mostly based on the beast’s previously hostile actions, and only partly on other factors such as possible positive gains.
In protecting ones self (or one’s possessions, resources, people and nation) from a hostile beast like the Western Cabal, one must accurately predict what the crazy beast is going to do NEXT, in response to one’s preventative response, or lack of one.
What matters, in the final analysis, lays in what I predict and believe that it SHALL eventually attempt to do when all is said and done.
If I predict and believe that the escalation of hostilities will NOT be ended anywhere short of attempted murder, then at that point I must decide whether I am going to kill the hostile beast first, or just allow it to go ahead and kill me or take my stuff or rule over my every thought and deed for eternity (or significant portion thereof.)
In other words, when Russia predicts and BELIEVES, finally, without equivocation or doubt, that the West (NATO, United States, Cabal, or whatever ya wanna call it) is irretrievably locked (barring physical defeat) into escalating all the way up to unrestricted total war and the annihilation of Russia as a sovereign nation . . . then Russia must, and shall, decide whether to strike first or simply allow it’s nation and people to be ruled over by insane homicidal idiots.
They have clearly stated what their decision will be when the time comes, so if and when they predict and believe that the time has come, then they will proceed to take that action without further notice. They will use whatever means are at their disposal to protect the people and nation of Russia from the hostile beast.
I don’t think anyone in the whole wide world thinks that they’re bluffing. And neither do the Russians.
Personally, their pronounced decision on the matter is fine with me . . . . because it’s the same as I would decide if I were in their shoes.
Come to think of it, I think that’s exactly where we all are.
Now would be a good time for a quick review of the history of nuclear war that commenced in Japan so many years ago. . . . and is still going. I’m saying that the event which ended WW2 instantly and immeditely started WW3 (the Nuclear Edition), which is the war we are now in. In other words, WW3 started on August 6, 1945 at Ground Zero, Hiroshima, Japan and has been incessantly and globally ongoing ever since . . . with the USA in the unchallengeable lead for most of that time, but now hopelessly losing on every front.
The United States did not nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki because they had to. The existent air and sea blockade would have been far more effective at a fraction of the cost. they did it because they intentionally, strategically, WANTED to.
They did it for many reasons that I suppose would make logical sense to a lizard brain power mad creature capable of carefully premeditated mass murder-for-personal-gain ( but no sense at all to sane people). The first reason that they instantaneously killed 100,000 people with the first detonation was strategic. It was to demonstrate to the world that they COULD do it (i.e. that they had the bomb and were willing to erase an entire city with it, in one go.)
The second nuclear bombing, three days later in Nagasaki, was also strategically intended. It was meant to show to the world that America’s new boss (the Military Industrial Complex and its masters) had the capacity and willingness to continue indiscriminately annihilating vast swaths of innocent civilian men, women and children for as long as necessary to achieve their goal of violent domination of the entire world.
The world definitely got the message, and was subdued and subjugated by that message for the next 80 years. The message was that lizard brain power mad creatures had the bomb and would be more than happy to use it on anyone and everyone who defied their orders or failed to hand over their sovereignty, their wealth and their freedom . . . forever and ever.
It should also be noted that these two “reasons” are still in play (or so the lizards think). That physically existential threat is basically how the lizards managed to finally (after centuries) grab all of the money and achieve near-hegemony in the first place. And threatening the annihilation of human life on Earth is basically how they’re hanging on to the money and power now (or trying to.) Being lizard-brained they actually believe that the “dead-man’s-switch” of financial ruin and mutually assured nuclear destruction, clutched in their clammy fingers, will both protect them AND enable them to prevail against the masses and other nations.
How wrong they are. Russia has beat them at their own game. The nuclear hostage strategy has failed because Russia has called their bluff. Most of the world can stand just fine without the dollar, and when it comes right down to the absolute finish line regarding nuclear weapons Russia has opted for “Give me liberty, or give me death.” Like Putin is said to have said, the evil will go to Hell as villains, and we will go to Heaven as martyrs.
I’m with the Ruskies on that one. It’s better to be physically dead than totally dead. I’ll take my chances.The global experiment in total totalitarianism is now winding down to it’s pathetic and predictable close. Hopefully the world learned it’s lesson.
The lesson is that the world is multi-polar by intrinsic nature. Of course living beings conspire and collaborate to form centralized power structure and hierarchies, and they will of course continue to do so, but since there are 8 billion (and counting) of us individual humans involved in the mash up it is impossible to get ALL of them to form a single, solitary, centralized hierarchical structure in which everyone submits to just one tyrant. The innate propensity of life to seek personal survival and betterment prevents that from EVER happening.
Power mad lizard brain psychopaths cannot understand this because they don’t know what life or human beings actually are. They think that life and people are just squishy machines that can be built to order and “domesticated” into permanent subservience. They are sadly mistaken about that, as is being demonstrated to them now by the fact of their losing, in an orchestrated suicide by self inflicted stupidity.
Yesterday @VietnamVet posted an essay that is so concisely accurate that it bears re-reading. For those who missed it (since it was at the end of the day and past the bed time of many of us) I highly recommend hopping into your time machine (merely a couple of clicks away) and giving it a read.
Classified documents must be distributed in D.C. by newsboys riding bicycles every morning, delivered just in time to be read over a nice cup of coffee before heading off to another busy day of grifting in the swamp.
By the way, has anybody but me wondered what the fuck any of those “classified documents” contain, in even the most generalized sense of subject matter or topic? Sorry, that’s classified.
The Pakistan power accident does seem awfully big to be an accident. Rhymes with Nord Stream.
“That’s a nice little country youze got there. Be a real shame if it got burnt down or sumptin’ . Maybe youuze should be a little less friendly wid doz Chinks.”
@VeraciousPoet
I appreciate a passionate rant as much as the next guy, but not so much when it belittles the audience instead of informing them. If we’re all such hopeless numbskulls then why are you talking to us? The indiscriminate blunderbuss blast of invalidation isn’t going to make me any smarter, and it it doesn’t seem to be making you feel any better either.
If you poured more of that vehemence into refining the content and expression of your ideas, rather than being told I’m too dumb to get it, then I would be much more likely to spend time trying to understand what you mean to say.
To be more linguistically and logically accurate (not to mention more nitpickingly OCD) , I should have written, “Isn’t that like saying Gore was a dog before becoming a canine?”
You wrote, “However, since he [Al Gore] was a politician before becoming a scammer . . .”
Isn’t that like saying Gore was a canine before becoming a dog?
I want to personally apologize to @formerly-t-bear .
Five days ago I wrote a comment that I thought was a rather agreeable and supportive response to something he had written. What he then wrote back was clearly a disagreeable dig and I felt insulted. In other words, he offended my egotistical image of my own rightness, and I replied in a completely inappropriate fashion. Rather than attempt to clear up the misunderstanding I lashed out in an undeserved and an intentional attempt to sarcastically shame him into embarrassment. Naturally, and deservedly, it’s myself who is now embarrassed and ashamed. My misconceived self-indulgence harmed the forum, and him. It was inexcusable, and I am sorry.
If Elon Musk isn’t lying (a VERY big “if”) , and actually has had the “The Jab” plus two boosters then he obviously isn’t near as smart as he and others present him to be. Facts are facts. If he actually did such a thing then he is one (or more, or all ) of the following :
1. A lousy scientist
2. A gullible sucker
3. A gonerAnd that ain’t all.
He is ALSO an inadvisable long range investment.
Luckily for him, he’s probably just a liar.
I apologize for the following comment being more than a little bit esoteric, but it is nevertheless true and important, so I would be remiss if I didn’t mention it, so I’m just gonna write it anyway and hope for the best. You guys already know that I’m a bit “out there”, so just chalk it up to that if this comment on the physics part of metaphysics gives you hives. You can always just skip over it altogether, for that matter.
In this Universe nothing ever stops, nor CAN it ever stop, because the next moment is determined by the present moment, every time all of the time. That’s why there is conservation of energy and why there is momentum and why there is inertia and so on. If anything that involves the motion of anything (both matter and the energy that comprises matter) APPEARS to have stopped it is only because that motion has been transferred in a manner that you may or may not have noticed.
This applies to so-called “information” and thought every bit as much as it applies to the more solid manifestations of reality that we call matter and energy in the conventional sense of those terms.
I say this because the bad guys’ games seem to be winding down to failure, and some of their ideological shenanigans (as well as their more physical crimes) appear to have been stopped or slowing down to stop in the near future. That’s well and good, but not sufficient reason to pop the Champaign corks just yet.
Such appearances are an illusion, a failure to notice that the “motion” which was previously observed to be be transpiring is STLL ongoing (regardless of casually observed appearances) , and has merely been transferred to other things. If you don’t want those other things to bite your ass in the future then it behooves finding out where the motion (energy in some form) went and what the effects of that might be.
Until the bad guys become enlightened it is certain that they will seek ways of turning that transferred motion to their own nefarious ends in some new way (but toward the same ends). That’s why it is never a good idea to treat victory as final. It simply never is. Ya got to stay right on top of it and continue to find and direct that elusive energy to benevolent objectives.
And that need to stay vigilant and proactive, like everything else around here, never stops. In the now famous words of the now famous Gonzalo Lira, “Know what’s going on !”
