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Vincent van Gogh Courtesan (after Eisen) 1887

 

Natural Infection vs Vaccination: Which Gives More Protection? (INN)
“It Needs To Be Hard For People To Remain Unvaccinated” (Turley)
I Told You It Would Fly Apart. It Is. (Denninger)
Third of England Still Without Any Covid Immunity, Scientist Warns (G.)
UK’s Return To ‘Freedom’ : Masks, Tracking And Vaccine Passports (SN)
UK’s ‘Awful Experiment’ Will Threaten NZ (NR.nz)
UK Covid Vaccines Deaths In 6 Months 4x Higher Than All Others In 11 Years (DE)
Holy Synod Of The Greek Church Recommends “Free Choice” For Vaccinations (KTG)
New York Takes Conservative Approach Counting Virus Deaths (AP)
New ‘Great Game’ Gets Back To Basics (Escobar)

 

 

We have a lot of concerns, and rightly so, about doctors and others who get banned and deleted on (social) media for saying things about Covid, vaccines and more that don’t fit the Trusted News Initiative’s stated goals. But that same treatement of reality also means that everyday people have no idea what is going on in their world. For instance, they have no clue that most people have immune systems that will fight off Covid with ease.

They have been told there are 2 kinds of immunity: from infection or from vaccination. And they believe what they’re told. Natural born immunity is anathema to control. If people know they are not under threat, how do you control them? You have to dumb them down. And then set them against others who have other ideas.

 

 

 

 

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Who dumbed these people down?

Natural Infection vs Vaccination: Which Gives More Protection? (INN)

Coronavirus patients who recovered from the virus were far less likely to become infected during the latest wave of the pandemic than people who were vaccinated against COVID, according to numbers presented to the Israeli Health Ministry. Health Ministry data on the wave of COVID outbreaks which began this May show that Israelis with immunity from natural infection were far less likely to become infected again in comparison to Israelis who only had immunity via vaccination. More than 7,700 new cases of the virus have been detected during the most recent wave starting in May, but just 72 of the confirmed cases were reported in people who were known to have been infected previously – that is, less than 1% of the new cases.


Roughly 40% of new cases – or more than 3,000 patients – involved people who had been infected despite being vaccinated. With a total of 835,792 Israelis known to have recovered from the virus, the 72 instances of reinfection amount to 0.0086% of people who were already infected with COVID. By contrast, Israelis who were vaccinated were 6.72 times more likely to get infected after the shot than after natural infection, with over 3,000 of the 5,193,499, or 0.0578%, of Israelis who were vaccinated getting infected in the latest wave. According to a report by Channel 13, the disparity has confounded – and divided – Health Ministry experts, with some saying the data proves the higher level of immunity provided by natural infection versus vaccination, while others remained unconvinced.

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This is exactly why there is the Nuremberg code. Exactly.

“It Needs To Be Hard For People To Remain Unvaccinated” (Turley)

Dr. Leana Wen, CNN analyst and Distinguished Fellow at the Fitzhugh Mullan Institute of Health Workforce Equity at George Washington University, has caused a stir due to her recent declaration on CNN that “it needs to be hard for people to remain unvaccinated.” With France implementing a mandatory “health pass” and private companies like Morgan Stanley requiring vaccinations for employees to return to work, we can expect more protests and challenges around the world. Those cases are likely to focus on whether mandatory requirements are based on medical or political imperatives. Wen’s comment is likely to be repeated in many filings as another case of “saying the quiet part out loud.” She appears to advocate measures defined to coerce people to take vaccinations due to the continuing refusal of a sizable number of people.

Wen is a well-known medical analyst and the former head of Planned Parenthood. She is a visiting professor at George Washington University. Wen made clear that health measures should be used to make life hard for people who refuse the vaccine so that they yield to public demands: “[b]asically, we need to make getting vaccinated the easy choice.” In the Washington Post, Wen also called for “Biden to make the case for vaccine requirements.” There is already open pressure from the White House on private companies to require vaccinations. Morgan Stanley responded by doing just that this week. They can likely do so. The most serious challenges could come from those with religious objections. However, even if they are allowed to work remotely, Morgan Stanley CEO James Gorman stated in July that “If you want to get paid New York rates, you work in New York. None of this, ‘I’m in Colorado…and getting paid like I’m sitting in New York City. Sorry, that doesn’t work.” The message could not be clearer that working remotely will come at a penalty.

The Biden White House is clearly concerned that making vaccines mandatory will cause not just court challenges but a public backlash. However, such mandatory programs have been upheld. As I discussed in a column last year, there is a 1905 case where the Supreme Court upheld a state mandatory vaccination program of school children for small pox in Massachusetts. In Jacobson v. Massachusetts (1905), the Court found that such programs are the quintessential state power rather than a federal power. It also held that “every well-ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand.” States are allowed to subject citizens to restraints to protect “general comfort, health, and prosperity of the State.”

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“They really have gone all the way to clown world in DC folks.”

I Told You It Would Fly Apart. It Is. (Denninger)

Now Biden administration officials are telling people that “vaccine hesitancy” is about bringing the Biden Administration down. “It’s being coordinated by people who have platforms and have an interest in bringing down the current administration.” Oh please. You really expect anyone to believe that Trump supporters are going to willingly die to destroy Joe Biden’s administration? If they were really willing to die to ruin Biden’s administration some tiny percentage could simply decide he’s leaving office now. Given that we’re talking about 60 million people who voted for Trump it must be assumed that if even a tiny percentage decided that bitching wasn’t enough one or more would succeed and, of course, likely die. But deliberately contract a deadly virus and choke on your own spit to ruin a sitting President’s administration?

You’re joking, right? They really have gone all the way to clown world in DC folks. The press secretary also pointed out that the administration has, for months, engaged with local community groups and pastors to handle the “door-to-door” sharing of information with neighbors about the vaccine. Conveniently omitting, I’m sure that there are 9,000 death reports in VAERS associated with these shots. Contrast that against the flu shot, which also is given to about 170 million Americans a year — last year’s campaign of 170 million stabs, more or less, was associated with 26 deaths. If these shots are so safe why are 400 times as many people on a per-shot basis dying in close association with taking them?

Why did the FDA just issue a warning about GBS with the J&J vaccine over an associated rate of about 1 in 125,000 shots where the death rate for the shots (associated, again, not proved) of about 1 in 16,000? Last time I checked death is not treatable — GBS is, although sometimes the damage is both life-altering and permanent. Oh, and look at this lie from Politico: “The big misinterpretation that Fox News or whomever else is saying is that they are essentially envisioning a bunch of federal workers knocking on your door, telling you you’ve got to do something that you don’t want to do,” Anthony Fauci, President Biden’s chief medical adviser, said in an interview on Sunday. “That’s absolutely not the case, it’s trusted messengers who are part of the community doing that — not government officials. So that’s where I think the disconnect is.” Oh really?

Well Politico, how long did it take for Fauci to get caught lying about there being no plans to mandate anything that someone doesn’t want to do? “Fauci says vaccines should be mandated at the local level but the federal government will not mandate them.” Oh, so he’ll just try to get others to mandate them but he won’t because HE CAN’T AND HE KNOWS IT. Why would I believe these shots work when the chief advocate got caught lying about his desires and intentions by explicitly advocating for forced shots while at the same time saying that was not the intent? In other news South Carolina’s AG recently sent one of their colleges a rather strict warning: Their plan to treat non-vaccinated students in a punitive way, including masks and weekly testing, is illegal. They backed down.

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That is mathematically impossible.

Third of England Still Without Any Covid Immunity, Scientist Warns (G.)

As ministers proceed with lifting most of England’s restrictions next week, a third of the population is still unprotected from getting infected with Covid, scientists have estimated. There have been about 15 million infections so far (roughly 27% of England’s population), and once partial and full vaccinations are accounted for that leaves approximately 33% of the population still susceptible to being infected with the Delta variant that is now dominant, said Matt Keeling, a professor of populations and disease at the University of Warwick and a member of a Sage subcommittee focused on infectious disease modelling and epidemiology (Spi-M). Roughly half the UK is now fully vaccinated but Covid infections are surging again and hospitalisations are on the rise, driven by the spread of Delta and the lifting of some restrictions.

On Tuesday the UK reported 50 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test, the worst daily toll since early April, and 36,660 new Covid cases. Boris Johnson has confirmed plans to discard almost all restrictions in England next week, including mask-wearing and social distancing mandates, but has urged caution. Whether this unlocking is permanent or temporary will depend on precautions taken by the public and vaccination rates, Sage scientists have said. Suggesting that there would be a jump in cases whenever restrictions were lifted, Johnson on Monday said it would be better to unlock now, with the “natural firebreak” of the school summer holidays, than in the autumn or winter when the NHS will be under greater pressure.

Dr Marc Baguelin, of Imperial College London and a member of Spi-M, said on Tuesday that the modelling indicated there was limited benefit to delaying the reopening. “All that’s going to do is just push things down the line – we would get slightly more vaccination, but it wouldn’t make a huge difference,” he said. But he added: “If we are opening up now, which has been the decision, then it needs to be done gradually and with care.” Other scientists have vehemently opposed the unlocking next week, suggesting the government has decided to achieve herd immunity by in effect letting the virus run wild in young people, which they say will lead to disruptions in NHS care, education and more people getting long Covid.

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The land of fear.

UK’s Return To ‘Freedom’ : Masks, Tracking And Vaccine Passports (SN)

After weeks of denying that vaccine passports would be introduced into everyday domestic life in the UK, Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced Monday that the government will ask nightclubs, pubs, and anywhere where people gather to adopt the measure ‘as a matter of social responsibility’. The announcement was again completely vague, with little details on exactly what venues will be made to use the NHS COVID app system as “a means of entry,” or how it will be managed and enforced. The only details that were given by ministers are that it will be ‘encouraged’ anywhere where people are “likely to be in close proximity to others outside their household.” So everywhere then.

Government guidelines, published Monday also state that if sufficient measures are not taken to limit infection, the Government will “consider mandating certification in certain venues at a later date.” The announcement also comes on the heels of the government suggesting that while face masks and distancing measures will become optional, businesses and transport companies will be encouraged to make their own policies. In addition, the NHS ‘Test, Trace & Isolate’ system will also remain in place, meaning that people will still be subject to spontaneous house arrest orders. The government documents state that “Test, Trace and Isolate has an important ongoing role in managing the virus and reduces the risk of potentially dangerous variants spreading.”

“The Government expects the Test, Trace and Isolate system will remain necessary through the autumn and winter,” it adds. The guidance also states that “Anyone who tests positive will still need to self-isolate regardless of their vaccination status. Further details will be published in due course and the changes are likely to come into effect later in the summer.” The Prime Minster also stated Monday that the Government will keep Covid data under review “probably, I’m afraid, into next year” adding that he “will not hesitate” to re-impose restrictions if needed. The series of ‘freedom’ announcements has left journalists, business owners, MPs, and the general population asking what exactly they are being freed from.

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New Zealand needs oxygen. Too much nonsense to address.

UK’s ‘Awful Experiment’ Will Threaten NZ (NR.nz)

Recent months have seen a surge of support in the scientific community for the theory that the coronavirus pandemic is a result of gain-of-function experiments in a Wuhan virus lab, although the issue is still hotly contested and far from settled. What most experts can agree on is that the United Kingdom is about to embark on a country-wide experiment in gain-of-function research. By abolishing all public health restrictions with just half of the population fully vaccinated, the UK could produce new variants that evade vaccine-induced immunity. “If you are going to train a virus to escape vaccine-induced immunity, you would do exactly what they’re doing,” Jemma Geoghegan, an evolutionary virologist at the University of Otago, told Newsroom.

“You’re basically providing a training ground for the virus to overcome those selection pressures. You’re allowing the virus to continue to spread. With this moderately immune population and with the Delta variant that has an R0 that’s estimated to be probably five or six, you need a threshold to be much, much, much higher than they currently have.” If the United Kingdom had reached that threshold, then removing restrictions wouldn’t pose an issue because the virus would struggle to spread through a heavily vaccinated population. Now, however, it will be able to spread rapidly through the unvaccinated population and then infect many vaccinated people as well. And the more the virus spreads and reproduces, the more it mutates.

In particular, when it infects vaccinated people, the random mutations which enable it to pierce that vaccine-induced immunity are more likely to stick. It’s simply survival of the fittest. “Delta is not going to be the last variant. The semi-weak selection pressure for a virus, in this big population, it’s not good for the future of the vaccine. I’m sure that there is going to be some evolution of some sort of resistance,” Geoghegan said. That is, while vaccines remain highly effective at reducing severe disease, hospitalisations and deaths from existing variants of the virus, new variants could threaten that. And the United Kingdom’s opening up is more likely to produce those types of variants.

University of Auckland microbiologist Siouxsie Wiles said: “The question is, how much worse is Delta going to get? “They are running a really quite awful experiment.” This doesn’t just endanger New Zealand over the next few months, but in fact threatens to unroll the progress of the vaccine rollout in every country. If new variants reduce the effectiveness of vaccines, that extends the needed threshold for population immunity. And recent modelling from Te Pknaha Matatini found that, for New Zealand at least, a full 97 percent of the population would need to be vaccinated if vaccine efficacy fell to 70 percent and the dominant global variant was highly transmissible. That would make reaching immunity through vaccination alone effectively impossible. It would necessitate ongoing, low-level public health restrictions for an extended period of time, if not indefinitely.

For those countries which are not able to maintain those measures or which have failed to exclude Covid-19 to date, the picture would be even more grim. As British commentator Umair Haque wrote about the UK’s own fate: “A tiny portrait of the future of Britain’s public health goes like this. Restrictions lifted, just as a new wave surges exponentially. Bang — the Delta wave explodes. New variants breed like wildfire. Waves of new variants surge in a Pandemic Storm, if you like — Delta, Lambda, whatever’s next — and recombine into even deadlier ones. “The world shuts its doors. Covid does become a new flu in Britain, an endemic, seasonal illness, only with hundreds of times the mortality and hospitalisation rates of the flu, bringing society to its knees, over and over again. Every winter is a deadly one. Every summer is only the eye of a widening gyre.”

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They’re perfectly safe.

UK Covid Vaccines Deaths In 6 Months 4x Higher Than All Others In 11 Years (DE)

A freedom of information request made to the MHRA has revealed just how deadly the Covid-19 vaccines really are. The request made by Duncan Husband on the 29th May 2021 asked the MHRA to provide a list of all new vaccines in the UK between 2010 and 2020 and to also provide the number of deaths, per vaccine, per month for the same time frame. The MHRA fulfilled the FOI request on the 29th June 2021 and provided a full list of all approved vaccines and a vaccine analysis print for each type of vaccine excluding the Adacel jab which the MHRA claim they do not have any reports on. Unfortunately the provided data does not breakdown into each month as Duncan Husband requested but does provide an overall review over the past decade of the total number of adverse reactions and deaths which are as follows –

The Pediacel vaccine to tackle diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis was granted authorisation by the MHRA on the 3rd December 2010. As of the 8th April 2021 there have been 3013 adverse reactions and 15 deaths reported to the MHRA. The pneumococcal vaccine to tackle pneumonia was granted authorisation by the MHRA on the 20th May 2015. As of the 8th April 2021 there have been 8.238 adverse reactions and 38 deaths reported to the MHRA. The rabies vaccine from GlaxoSmithKline; in which Patrick Vallance has shares, was granted authorisation by the MHRA on the 6th April 2017. As of the 8th April 2021 there have been 2,387 adverse reactions and 1 death reported to the MHRA.

The VIVOTIF vaccine to tackle typhoid fever was granted authorisation by the MHRA on the 25th July 2018 As of the 8th April 2021 there have been 309 adverse reactions and 0 deaths reported to the MHRA. The mejugate vaccines to tackle meningitis were granted authorisation by the MHRA on the 31st March 2015. As of the 8th April 2021 there have been 9,980 adverse reactions and 2 deaths reported to the MHRA. The anthrax vaccine was granted authorisation by the MHRA on the 3rd May 2018. As of the 8th April 2021 there have been 294 adverse reactions and 0 deaths reported to the MHRA. The Hepatitis A vaccine was granted authorisation by the MHRA on the 24th December 2020. As of the 8th April 2021 there have been 848 adverse reactions and 1 death reported to the MHRA. The influenza vaccines, the earliest of which was granted authorisation in 2013, have had 23,068 adverse reactions and 227 deaths reported to the MHRA.

In all there have been 450 deaths among the 236,55 adverse reactions to the Pfizer mRNA vaccine reported to the MHRA Yellow Card scheme as of the 30th June 2021. The AstraZeneca jab has had 960 deaths among 775,940 adverse reactions reported to the MHRA Yellow Card scheme as of the 30th June 2021. There have also been 6 deaths among the 22,191 adverse reactions to the Moderna jab, and 24 deaths among the 2,690 adverse reactions reported where the brand of vaccine was not specified. This means that as of 30th June 2021 the Covid-19 vaccines have caused 1,037,376 adverse reactions and 1,440 deaths, and now they’re coming for your children and want to give booster jabs to the elderly and vulnerable in Autumn.

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The Church as the sole remaining voice of reason. Or are they afraid of the new Covid religion?

Holy Synod Of The Greek Church Recommends “Free Choice” For Vaccinations (KTG)

The Holy Synod of the Greek Church recommended on Tuesday the “free choice” for vaccination against Covid-19, vigilance in prayers” and “frequent participation in worshiping life.” Furthermore, the Holy Synod urged its members to “inform the faithful about the spiritual and regular teaching of the Church in matters of the pandemics.” This was stated in a press release issued after a meeting with the Health Minister and the country’s top epidemiologists Sotiris Tsiodras who asked the high-ranking clergymen to support and strengthen vaccinations in the country.


Neither the conservative minister nor the epidemiologist who also chants during religious services not even the Prime Minister last week could apparently convince the holy fathers to issue a circular urging priests and the faithful to wholehearted support the government’s vaccination program as infections spike. Apparently Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis was convinced about the full support of the Greek Church as he urged citizens to “listen to the Church” during his address to the nation on Monday.

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Everyone counts the way that appears most useful to their political ends.

New York Takes Conservative Approach Counting Virus Deaths (AP)

The federal government’s count of the COVID-19 death toll in New York has 11,000 more victims than the tally publicized by the administration of Gov. Andrew Cuomo, which has stuck with a far more conservative approach to counting virus deaths. The discrepancy in death counts continued to widen this year, according to an Associated Press review, even as the Democrat has come under fire over allegations that his office purposely obscured the number of deaths of nursing home residents to protect his reputation. New York state’s official death count, presented daily to the public and on the state’s Department of Health website, stood at around 43,000 this week. But the state has provided the federal government with data that shows roughly 54,000 people have died with COVID-19 as a cause or contributing factor listed on their death certificate.

“It’s a little strange,” said Bob Anderson, chief of the Mortality Statistics Branch at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Center for Health Statistics. “They’re providing us with the death certificate information so they have it. I don’t know why they wouldn’t use those numbers.” Such a discrepancy can fuel distrust in government tallies of COVID-19 deaths, while making it harder for individuals to know why others in their community died in the pandemic, experts say. “We need to make sure we get it right, and people understand what the numbers are. And how we’re using them so they can’t be misused by people who have a motive to misuse them,” said Georges Benjamin, a physician and executive director at the American Public Health Association.

The Cuomo administration’s count includes only laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 deaths at hospitals, nursing homes and adult-care facilities. That means its tally excludes people who died at home, hospice, in state prisons or at state-run homes for people living with disabilities. It also excludes people who likely died of COVID-19 but never got a positive test to confirm the diagnosis. Tests were scarce in the early stages of New York’s outbreak. At least 5,000 New York City residents likely died of COVID-19 without a positive test, according to city statistics.

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Don’t be surprised if the US want back into Afghanistan shortly, claiming Taliban threat. Also, don’t be surprised if there’s no way back in.

New ‘Great Game’ Gets Back To Basics (Escobar)

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi is on a Central Asian loop all through the week. He’s visiting Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan. The last two are full members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, founded 20 years ago. The SCO heavyweights are of course China and Russia. They are joined by four Central Asian “stans” (all but Turkmenistan), India and Pakistan. Crucially, Afghanistan and Iran are observers, alongside Belarus and Mongolia. And that leads us to what’s happening this Wednesday in Dushanbe, the Tajik capital. The SCO will hold a 3 in 1: meetings of the Council of Foreign Ministers, the SCO-Afghanistan Contact Group, and a conference titled “Central and South Asia: Regional Connectivity, Challenges and Opportunities.”

At the same table, then, we will have Wang Yi, his very close strategic partner Sergey Lavrov and, most importantly, Afghan Foreign Minister Mohammad Haneef Atmar. They’ll be debating trials and tribulations after the hegemon’s withdrawal and the miserable collapse of the myth of NATO “stabilizing” Afghanistan. Let’s game a possible scenario: Wang Yi and Lavrov tell Atmar, in no uncertain terms, that there’s got to be a national reconciliation deal with the Taliban, brokered by Russia-China, with no American interference, including the end of the opium-heroin ratline. Russia-China extract from the Taliban a firm promise that jihadism won’t be allowed to fester. The endgame: loads of productive investment, Afghanistan is incorporated to Belt and Road and – later on – to the Eurasia Economic Union (EAEU).

The SCO’s joint statement on Wednesday will be particularly enlightening, perhaps detailing how the organization plans to coordinate a de facto Afghan peace process farther down the road. In this scenario, the SCO now has the chance to implement what it has been actively discussing for years: that only an Asian solution to the Afghan drama applies. Sun Zhuangzhi, executive director of the Chinese Research Center of the SCO, sums it all up: the organization is capable of coming up with a plan mixing political stability, economic and security development and a road map for infrastructure development projects. The Taliban agree. Spokesman Suhail Shaheen has stressed, “China is a friendly country that we welcome for reconstruction and developing Afghanistan.”

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    Vincent van Gogh Courtesan (after Eisen) 1887   • Natural Infection vs Vaccination: Which Gives More Protection? (INN) • “It Needs To Be Hard For
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    Mississippi health officials warn about delta ‘surge’ as 7 children in ICU due to COVID-19
    Two of the patients are on ventilators, officials said.

    So here we go. Mississippi is one of the most unvaxxed states. Here we see unvaxxed adults being blamed for causing children to fall ill.

    What I would like to know: Were these kids already sick with something else? Were they in the hospital already? If not, what co-morbidities do they have, if any? Or were they each vibrantly healthy children struck down by Covid?

    I ask because almost every time the news media reports that people in their 20s, 30s are being hospitalized, we get no further info in terms of the risk factor. Obesity is the number one risk. We know this is a big problem in the U.S. We need to understand if these patients have other risks.

    I pray that these children get well. I hope their illness is not being used as propaganda in the vaccination campaign.

    By introducing these experimental vaccines into the early stages of a pandemic, we have created an ever-changing dynamic that may or may not follow the normal course of how pandemics work through to become endemic. It is an experiment we have no control over and cannot gather any really useful data from at this point. I suspect this is one of the reasons they want everyone vaxxed, to try to reset to ground zero and march onward–probably with boosters forever. What. A. Freaking. Poop. Show.

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    The article I posted above is in French, but the video is in English. People are organizing here. Will see what comes out of it all

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    “The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to such a pass that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love, and in order to occupy and distract himself without love he gives way to passions and coarse pleasures, and sinks to bestiality in his vices, all from continual lying to other men and to himself. The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offence, isn’t it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill — he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offence, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it, and so pass to genuine vindictiveness.” Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

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    Number of Hospital Beds per 1,000 Inhabitants (1960-2018)

    Hear from the other side: “99.2 Percent of All U.S. Covid Deaths Are Unvaccinated, New Analysis Shows — If you’re pushing anti-vax bullshit, you’re getting people killed” –Rolling Stone

    99.2 Percent of All U.S. Covid Deaths Are Unvaccinated, New Analysis Shows



    Quotes: “But thanks to people pushing anti-vax narratives, including Republicans like Sens. Ron Johnson and Rand Paul, more than a quarter of Americans say they will not get vaccinated,”

    This is amazing to me, because, like “Right wing Twitter” and “Disinformation”, they seem to have a belief that anybody’s listening to them. Like if you’re “exposed” to any random YouTube video, you just fall down a rabbit hole and pop! You’re a shaved KKK member.

    That is: Their lives are lived in a paradigm where you “DO WHAT YOU’RE TOLD.” If Twitter tells you at 9am to love Assange, then at 6pm to hate him, you do. If they say he’s a hero again at noon, and he both got Trump elected but top Democrats want him pardoned, you change your mind depending on whatever you last heard. Or all at once. This is very weird to us.

    On the other side, people don’t believe or do ANYTHING they’re told, regardless of WHO says it. Trump says take vaccines: they’re safe. And we know they’re all in a cult because they refuse to obey cult leader. So what “narrative” would you “push”? It wouldn’t make the slightest difference because they don’t believe “NARRATIVES.” Period. They don’t believe anything from anyone.

    Apparently the left is so air-tight it never occurs to them that people make their own decisions not based on popularity or authority, but perhaps something else. No wonder it seems like sheer chaos to them. And if they DON’T do something, it therefore has to be some specific somebody’s fault. Somewhere out there, there’s a Paul, or a Q, or a forklift driver in Brooklyn or a stay at home Dad in Kansas that’s really to blame: “Your ideas are so incredibly feeble and frail, I put a dent in your multi-billion dollar campaign in my spare time.” Otherwise they’d just do what Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg told them to, right? That’s the machine-engine world. Where there is no God, no soul, no will. You pull lever A, product B comes out. People are “Workers”. Citizens are “Consumers”. Work-units, consumption-units on a giant ledger in the sky (cloud), all run by central office, God himself: ME. Exactly as written in the last paragraphs of Huxley’s “Brave New World”.

    Honestly I don’t know how to bridge this void because I can’t imagine being so credulous and lacking in personal boundaries that I WOULDN’T judge what a person says from who they are and where they’re coming from.

    Bonus round: this is most akin to “Borderline Personality Disorder” which is NOT like multiple personality, but a problem with personal boundaries and is the Siamese Twin of narcissism. It might be badly and broadly put as the narcissistic disorder for women typified by mothers who think their children ARE the same as, an extension of them, with no reality of their own, and everybody else it too — props in their drama, where the ego is all. For them, because all other things are also themselves, it’s unthinkable that children wouldn’t do as they would do, or do as they’re told, and if they don’t, they’re innately evil or their friends/media/source of not-self is the source of this evil and must be destroyed. It’s the Dolores Umbridge of dysfunctions, basically universal in our now-Fauccist culture, and there’s a reason she’s the most terrifying villain in all Harry Potter, far more terrifying than Voldemort himself.

    Since everybody does what they’re told and like all minorities, have no lives, will, or free agency of their own, the only POSSIBLE conclusion is that some OTHER narcissist is giving the orders. And they’re goin’ down, mister! I’M the only dictatorial ego of complete unlimited power dominating all life. You just obey, little Worker Bees/automatons/minions/infants that you are. Mommy knows what’s good for you, and that is: Whatever is good for ME.

    So yeah, remember, whenever Rand Paul speaks, everybody obeys! They just believe him! Who knew? If Parler is allowed to exist, like Agent Smith, all humans who come in contact with them jjjrrrooopp! Turn into Agent Smiths.

    Speaking of unhinged ego-driven narcissists in charge, Rolling Stone adds a quote from WVa Governor Jim Justice: “If I knew for certain that there was going to be eight or nine people [dead from Covid-19] by next Tuesday and I could be one of them if I don’t take the vaccine, what in the world do you think I would do?” Justice said. “I mean I would run over on top of somebody because I don’t want to take the chance when the wheel spins that it could come up Jim Justice.”

    Right, so you’ll kick, punch, and let anybody else die a death to save Jim Justice. Got it. You sir, are in the right job, and an example for us all. Check out the comment section from what is pretty far left: They got problems.

    So…Psaki they’re working feverishly – and using “Strike Forces” and wiretapping and cancelling SMS text messages to get 12-18 year olds vaccinated. Is that because those will be the military-age people for China’s upcoming war? A few years from now? Otherwise, why pick on them and not the people ACTUALLY at risk? Or at risk at all?

    Same day: Navy scandal about them crashing, sinking, burning, and surrendering U.S. Navy vessels (to Iran). +90% of the officers interviewed said they were very VERY up to date on diversity training, however, actual U.S. Naval training, on you know, steering and fire-control on ships? Not so good. This isn’t even about CRT or diversity classes: it’s just about there being so many hours in a day. If your sailors do one, they don’t have the time for that pesky nuclear reactor safety course. Since they’re sinking U.S. Navy ships steadily with unreadiness, the plan is working perfectly: The Navy is a joke that will be sunk 10 minutes after China attacks.

    All systems go. Per Sun Tzu, China will not attack openly until they are assured of winning because their enemy is completely hollow and in disarray. So, so easy. So easy to pay every Congressman, media outlet — even Disney and the NBA – and have FangFang with Congressional security committee, Chinese spies with Feinstein for 30 years, McConnell’s wife top investor/connector to China, $1B in Chinese money to Biden. What did Snowden say? “The worst conspiracies of all are right out in the open.” Why bother with a smoky room? We all know all those things happened, and far more.

    Oh wait: RussiaRussiaRussia. Russia hacked the Colonial pipeline and moved the money to a KYC U.S. crypto exchange where it was fully visible and confiscatable to fill the FBI budget. Russia shut off the heat in Fargo. Russia elected Trump so Trump could arm Ukraine and embargo him. So the plan going back to 1979 to boost China, have them attack the U.S., and the sub-plan of Russia eventually siding after the West is smacked, saving the U.S. just like they did in the Revolution and Civil War (and technically WWII)? Going pretty good. Can we just skip the whole thing? Bored already. Nothing but the war channel, 24/7. Commercials for “Beautiful bombs.”

    Also in war, weakening the United States for collapse: food system completely destroyed. There’s plenty of land and potential: too much actually, prices would be near-poverty. It takes incredible, purposeful decades-long mismanagement by central planners to actively prevent food production and get food shortages and high prices that cause a national crisis and collapse of government. Like France. Yeah, like Paris couldn’t get food in 1789? France was a desert just that year? Their fields were on holiday, the Ocean took a holiday? No. The PEOPLE could have created the food like they did later in the forgotten “Year without a Summer” in 1816. It takes people obeying and protecting crooked, idiot sons to make a real disaster. Like Bush in Katrina.

    But too late now: no combines, no silos, no rail cars, no food processors, no warehouses, no barns, no farmers, no workers, no home pantries, no local garden farmers. Suit yourself. Don’t say we didn’t warn you since 1969. Mellencamp spent 30 years saying this. P.S. there are no Ball jars coast to coast. $20 a jar for some sizes, and lids are locked up behind the counter, 2-pack maximum. Is that what happens when you have no manufacturing, no competition? You die like the fools you are?

    Let’s stop this movie and switch to another. All it takes is to decide.

    Covid religion.
    AllHeil
    https://www.barnhardt.biz/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/img_4588.jpg

    People have deep, inner need for God. Villains know this and set themselves up as the god-of-State, that “All shall worship me, and despair.”

    #79711
    oxymoron
    Participant

    I’m not making this personal or persuasive – just my take, but Madamski and others recently got me thinking… which is always tricky. We are assuming the ruling class is an abstract idea.

    I used to think in terms of ‘they’ as in our ruling class overlords as an abstraction but there are real names and literal people involved in the current round- meaning it is no longer conceptual. Uncovered by Assange, Whitney Webb, Dr David Martin (maybe, I’m on the fence here, the bow tie freaks me a bit) and others – pursued by us at TAE, Raul, Denninger, Fullmich etc.

    Where we are now historically, is at the convergence between the Military (formerly the provenence of nation states now monied parties), The Information Sect (Big Tech) and Medical backed by Finance – who is in the back pocket of all.
    We have names like Regina Dugan, Epstein, Mark Zuckerberg, Faucci, Daszack , Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates etc. We have organisations like DARPA,The Wellcome Trust, YouTube, Twitter, CIA, Davos crew etc.
    It is a big crowd but there are actual decision and policy makers and they see the world very differently from us here.

    But in many ways they are us. They don’t want to die. They are like us in that they want to seize the day, hashtag live their best life and make the world a better place. Like us they are insane but I would argue MORE insane. Transhumanism and Eugenics are attempts like Hitler to make a master race. We are not invited. Not that it is a gang hangin’ on fridays at the mall – there very much is a thing called intra-elite competition (China is on the up).

    This is why as each day dawns, I feel more and more like an ‘indigenous savage’. The Empire comes toward us (Us as the new frontier – which used to be land, resources and gold but now back to serfs and units of consumption/production with a little bio-hack thrown in) the Empire thinking with absolute certainty and power (through fossil fuels and tech) that we must be harvested for the technosphere – which is the new religion or #Science. I mean we are being experimented on – literally for money and data.
    I just want to go the other way – more gardening, more shits and giggles and more fresh running streams teeming with fish. I am native and I fear I am fucked. As those before me.

    What to do?

    Here is a thought, pondered much and by many in this last 6 – 12 months. If my body is lost, which it may be, only time will tell, then do I have mind? Do I have spirit? Are the great sages actually onto something? As Jesus was pursued by the state, hung upon the cross and murdered in plain site to show his ‘guilt’- he said he was saved. He and Buddha say this world is a giant smokescreen, a vast illusion. Could this be true?

    I just want to run, as per the John Day V.Arnold chat the other day. I don’t want to find the peace of God. I don’t want to meditate, I like being an individual, a person, Nathan. Goddammit I like my EGO small i Self. But I bought the ticket and I’m on the ride – the great big ride of the world. The world is a bit shit though, so I am back on the silent side of not knowing because giving too much of a fuck is making me tense.

    ‘Be in the world but not of it’.

    How? Well I am open to suggestions but I alone rule my mind and rule it I must.
    Also I may be taking things too seriously.
    Sorry for the long rant.

    #79712
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “Now Biden administration officials are telling people that “vaccine hesitancy” is about bringing the Biden Administration down.”

    Well, that’s the end of the show. Covid symptoms now include conservative backlash to DNC policies/politicians.

    Meanwhile, I wonder if this is still happening?

    monoclonal antibody stuff

    Mad Dow Disease

    #79713
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “‘Be in the world but not of it’.

    How? Well I am open to suggestions but I alone rule my mind and rule it I must.
    Also I may be taking things too seriously.
    Sorry for the long rant.”

    I like Todd’s take on it:

    God Said

    “God Said”

    Nearly everyone I know claims to have heard your voice
    And every time they do, I know I should rejoice
    Because one day I’m sure you’ll break your silence
    And speak just to me
    But I feel like time’s running out
    My heart is, my heart is filling with doubt

    And god said…

    I don’t dwell upon you, I dwell on something else
    I am not really here, so get over your self

    I’ve tried to follow every rule they said you handed down
    And spread the sacred testimony all around
    But still the others seem to have your ear but never will I
    Have I displeased you somehow?
    Can’t help, can’t help feeling left out

    And god said…

    There’s no anger in me, you must mean someone else
    Cause it’s not me that you see, you’re looking at yourself
    And I won’t give you a prize instead of someone else
    Cause I don’t play favorites, so get over yourself

    Just get over yourself
    Just get over yourself
    Just get over yourself
    Just get over yourself
    Just get over yourself
    Just get over get over get over get over

    Is it my fear, is it my pride, is it my vanity?
    Should your name just be denied to save my sanity?
    What is the price I need to pay to have what others seem to grasp so easily?
    Pity your servant your slave
    Who’ll kiss, who’ll kiss your feet to be saved
    Save me, save me

    God said…

    You are not serving me, you’re serving something else
    Cause I don’t need to be pleased, just get over yourself
    You can’t suck up, up to me, I know you all too well
    But I don’t dwell upon you, so get over yourself
    Cause you’re not praying to me, you’re praying to yourself
    And you’re not worshiping me, you’re worshiping yourself
    And you will kill in my name and heaven knows what else
    When you can’t prove I exist, so get over yourself

    Just get over yourself
    Just get over yourself
    Just get over yourself
    Just get over yourself
    Just get over yourself
    Just get over get over get over get over yourself

    #79714
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “This is why as each day dawns, I feel more and more like an ‘indigenous savage’. The Empire comes toward us (Us as the new frontier – which used to be land, resources and gold but now back to serfs and units of consumption/production with a little bio-hack thrown in) the Empire thinking with absolute certainty and power (through fossil fuels and tech) that we must be harvested for the technosphere – which is the new religion or #Science. I mean we are being experimented on – literally for money and data.”

    We did it to the original indigenes, now we do it to ourselves. As we treat others, we treat ourselves. The likes of Jeffrey Epstein do not escape karma any more than the rest of us. HAving consumed the planet’s offerings, the only thing left to harvest is ourselves.

    #79715
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    THe pendulum swings both ways:

    Tennessee is halting outreach on all vaccines for adolescents, including for Covid-19

    CNN tries to spin it but the facts are plain: local legislative bodies are increasingly anti-covid insanity.

    #79716
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “Big investors — the biggest — were already advising the Federal Reserve to print money and give it directly to companies, public and private, instead of the traditional quantitative easing via banks and the treasury bond market. In August 2019 BlackRock, an investment vehicle of some of the world’s richest people, told the Fed to put trillions of dollars of stimulus money “directly into public and private hands when the next downturn arrive,” as the financial commentator John Titus explains.

    So the stimulus response was put in place before Covid was even a thing and it was planned by big investors in collusion with the Federal Reserve – not a government agency, by the way, but a cartel of 12 private banks.

    In September 2019 the interbank market froze up. Institutions couldn’t borrow money even at rates of 8% a day. The Federal Reserve had a choice: let interest rates skyrocket or shut own the economy. It decided to freeze all borrowing and lock down the economy. The lockdown was not triggered by the coronavirus pandemic. It was part of the monetary plan presented to the Fed six months before.

    And so we got Event Covid. Why does the state-corporatist media not tell us this? Its silence is the answer. The media is owned by those same banks and investors. That is why it ignores the very obvious connection of the financial apocalypse in late 2019 and the response to Covid. “The ‘novel’ coronavirus pandemic marks the greatest turning point in U.S. monetary history since the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913,” writes Titus”

    #79717
    Mr. House
    Participant

    ” Senator James Inhofe has revealed that Henry Paulson was behind the threats of martial law and a new great depression prior to the passage of the bailout bill, having made such warnings during a conference call on September 19th, around two weeks before the legislation was eventually approved by both the Senate and Congress.”

    #79718
    zerosum
    Participant

    I missed the following great post.
    It wasn’t due to censorship.
    How can we get to read more than one post per day? Is this a fixable problem?

    July 13, 2021
    Posted by Raúl Ilargi Meijer at 12:43 pm

    Keeping Society Open: The Endemic Solution


    https://www.ft.lk/columns/Keeping-society-open-The-endemic-solution/4-720285

    #79719
    zerosum
    Participant

    (Don’t worry about inflation or the Olympics or 2 kinds of immunity or street unrest/demonstration)

    “everyday people have no idea what is going on in their world….. And they believe what they’re told”

    New “feel good” word for hungry/no food/starving ………..”food insecurity”

    Reports of unrest has broken out at the USA border, in Guatemala, Haiti, Cuba, Palestine and South Africa.

    Heat and floods are affecting food productions.

    Deliveries of food cannot happen without deliveries of fuel for the delivery trucks. (Energy distribution)
    https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/agriculture/brief/food-security-and-covid-19

    #79720
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “When It Becomes Serious, You Have To Lie”
    Jean-Claude Juncker

    #79721
    John Day
    Participant

    Hi Oxymoron!
    Dance Your Life https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/07/dance-your-life.html

    Overstimulated,

    Paralyzed by too much information, is just where the machine wants us to stay.
    There is always more information coming.
    Don’t act yet, except, maybe click these boxes and enter your credit card.
    Don’t act outside the machine-pattern! Don’t grow your tendrils out to the light!
    Life is complex and adaptive, growing this way, then that way, like a tomato vine, not usually like a field of regimented cornstalks, awaiting the combine….

    Take spontaneous actions. Plant vegetables. Go for a walk. Bike to the store.
    Where will you lock the bike? How will you carry the groceries? Do you have anything you can adapt to that functionality?

    Break free of the machine by dancing your every day life, guided by love, whimsy, and curiosity.
    Engage the archetypal patterns of vegetable gardening.
    Let the lives of the plants and their variability teach you. Let the seasons and their uncertainty teach you.
    Know the satisfaction of a few good fruits, and the frustration of squirrels in your peach trees.
    (Uh, don’t advocate shooting squirrels, even with a smiley face emoji, or Facebook will ban you for 24 hours. Hi Randy!)

    Do you dance like a white-boy? Do you look kinda; like you’re jogging? Are you wacky and unpredictable? Are you sleek and suave?
    Go for it!
    Keep dancing your life.

    Funky Chicken

    (pictured taking out the southern peas that the weevils prefer, to feed to happy chickens nearby)

    #79722
    zerosum
    Participant

    Post covid changes for
    Stretching a dollar
    Old advise

    https://www.cashay.com/how-to-stretch-your-paycheck-150551000.html
    Barber shop/hairdresser
    Restaurants
    travel – cars, planes
    food substitution – beans for meats
    vacations
    coffee – thermos

    #79723
    John Day
    Participant

    @Madamski: God Shuffled His Feet

    #79724
    John Day
    Participant

    Dr.D quoted from Rolling Stone: “Hear from the other side: “99.2 Percent of All U.S. Covid Deaths Are Unvaccinated, New Analysis Shows — If you’re pushing anti-vax bullshit, you’re getting people killed” –Rolling Stone

    May would have been a watershed month. Deaths lag cases/diagnoses by about 1 month, so look at the month of April for the population characteristics.
    Look at the definition of “COVID Death”, which was still “any positive test within a month”.
    May was cherry-picked, obviously, to give the highest possible ratio of unvaccinated-deaths to vaccinated deaths, but 99:1 remains impressive. It would be prudent to scrutinize that data, but even more prudent to look at current trends, with vaccinated populations having a lot of unexpected setbacks and upsets.

    The “unknown-unknowns” have started surfacing, haven’t they?

    #79725
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    https://m.facebook.com/ZachBushMD/photos/a.803380109839099/1241720959338343/?type=3&eid=ARDWREcVi9gR0i5BsBr6xwBfMCzbWYAVPuzI-DPMHBYviTG6qaEFxvquj9MaHCLkfHRT-7vq_fMQlR5o
    According to Zachary Bush, communities along the last 90 mikes of the Mississippi River have the highest cancer rates in the world. Glyphosate from industrial farms gets dumped into the river and, by the time you get to the Deep South, the glyphosate levels in the Mississippi are very high.

    #79726
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Question to everyone: Does Nicole Foss write anymore or give interviews or anything? Has anyone heard from her?

    #79727
    Dr. D
    Participant

    1) 99% (+/-1%) of all people who die of Cancer weren’t vaccinated for it.

    2) There was no vaccine for Cancer.

    3) Rolling Stone: “How Dare You?”

    4) I rest my case.

    Is there a vaccine against having to read this anew every day? “Idiocracy” isn’t supposed to be until 2506.

    #79728
    #79729
    absolute galore
    Participant

    I’ve never seen a better description of my ex than Dr.D’s excerpt of The Brothers Karamazov posted above.

    Of course it fits most of our politicians and “business leaders” like a glove, too.

    The idea that it is Republicans resisting the vax is strange. Tucker Carlson posted a figure saying 23% of African Americans had been vaccinated.

    I suspect they are working even now on ways to justify pushing up the approval date. Once it gets full approval, a lot of people are going to lose their reason for hesitating. At the same time, it will give private businesses the justification for firing people who refuse to cooperate with the government’s mass GMO plan.

    I think they think if they just stay on this and completely ignore and or censor all the dissenting voices, they will emerge with the win.The fact that news cycles last about 3 minutes greatly helps their cause.

    Gotta love the clip of K Harris dissing the vaccine during the debates. I might have to save that on my phone to play for the “respected community leaders” who come knocking to tell me to get vaccinated for the good of all. After I cough on them profusely, of course. Kidding. But I will tell them masks are not permitted on my doorstep or in my yard. I might invite them in for some milk (vitamin D) and a couple of Apple Horse Paste Cookies (I can afford to now that I have the form made for humans).

    #79730
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency”

    #79731
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    • Third of England Still Without Any Covid Immunity, Scientist Warns (G.)

    What that Guardian article doesn’t mention is that the 33% figure reportedly includes the number of vaccinated people who are still susceptible to the Delta variant due to ineffective vaccines. Time will tell whether this is significantly overestimating the effectiveness of the vaccines.


    Third of population in England ‘still susceptible to Delta variant’
    When taking account of vaccines, which do not work perfectly, modellers at Warwick University calculated that 33% of the population could catch Covid.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/delta-england-warwick-university-warwick-english-b945525.html

    Third of people in England still susceptible to Covid, expert warns
    27.4% of the English population will have been infected and therefore have natural immunity, leaving the rest either vaccinated or unvaccinated. When taking account of vaccines, which do not work perfectly, the modellers at Warwick calculated that 33% of the population remains susceptible to the Delta variant, first identified in India.

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/covid-england-population-susceptible/

    #79732
    Mr. House
    Participant

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-drug-overdose-deaths-soared-nearly-30-in-2020-11626271200

    This wasn’t obvious as soon as the decided to do lockdowns?

    #79735
    Bill7
    Participant
    #79736
    Bill7
    Participant

    They don’t want there to be a control group (of substantial size) to compare to.

    Are they giving away- say- insulin? Nopers..

    😉

    #79737
    Bill7
    Participant

    Mr. House said: ” https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-drug-overdose-deaths-soared-nearly-30-in-2020-11626271200 This wasn’t obvious as soon as the decided to do lockdowns?”

    Not a bug, but a feature.

    #79738
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    • Third of England Still Without Any Covid Immunity, Scientist Warns (G.)

    The most recent GOV.UK data actually estimates that 90% of the adult population in England have already been infected or vaccinated.

    1.Main points

    In England, it is estimated that around 9 in 10 adults, or 89.8% of the adult population (95% credible interval: 88.2% to 91.3%) would have tested positive for antibodies against coronavirus (COVID-19) – SARS-CoV-2 – on a blood test in the week beginning 14 June 2021, suggesting they had the infection in the past or have been vaccinated.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveyantibodyandvaccinationdatafortheuk/7july2021

    #79739
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    @Bill7: And do you know how much it costs to produce a single vial of full-strength insulin? $6. The cost of two fast-food chicken sandwiches, pretty much.

    #79740
    Bill7
    Participant

    > @Bill7: And do you know how much it costs to produce a single vial of full-strength insulin? $6. The cost of two fast-food chicken sandwiches, pretty much. <

    Quite the profit margin for our friends at BigPharma, then.

    Great Country or what

    #79741
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Yesterday, the British Medical Journal BMJ published this opinion piece from one of its editors:


    Covid-19 vaccines for children: hypothetical benefits to adults do not outweigh risks to children

    …there are multiple assumptions that need to be examined when judging calls to vaccinate children against covid-19.

    First, the disease in children is commonly mild, and serious sequelae remain rare. Despite “long covid” recently garnering increased attention, two large studies in children show that prolonged symptoms are uncommon and overall similar or milder in children testing positive for SARS-CoV-2 compared to those with symptoms from other respiratory viruses.

    Covid-19 vaccines for children: hypothetical benefits to adults do not outweigh risks to children

    #79742
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Was it the water or was she jabbed? These are the questions we should be asking, but will not because nobody wants to look bad

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pittsburgh-bride-hospitalized-during-honeymoon-in-cancun/ar-AAM4yoK?ocid=entnewsntp

    #79743
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “So if you take the VAERS data at face value (and the number of 9000 dead from the jab is almost certainly light) over the number who have received the first jab (184 million) you get a probability of dying from the jab of approximately 1 in 20400. Compare that with the probability provided by the Johns Hopkins calculator, of dying from Coof-19 which for me was 1 in 2.5 million, and it makes the decision pretty simple, doesn’t it?”

    #79744
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Food for thought with regards to TPTB, 1%, whatever you want to call them

    Financial Coup d’Etat

    #79745
    WES
    Participant

    Yesterday joe was in Philadelphia giving a desparate pep talk to democrats to not let any vote audits take place in Pennsylvania. Joe threw the full weight of the entire federal government behind the effort. Guess he must be worried that his legitimacy as president is still being questioned.

    So far joe hasn’t been able to stop the Phoenix, Arizona senate vote audit. Things aren’t going so hot in Fulton County (Atlanta) Georgia either, as vote fraud evidence keeps simmering to the surface despite best efforts to bury the evidence. Clumsy Stacy Adam’s left her finger prints everywhere!

    For joe, it looks he has no choice but to pick a hill in Pennsylvania to fight and die on for his presidential legitimacy.

    Joe, may I suggest Little Round Top in Gettysburg? It provides a very nice green view, if I remember correctly!

    #79746
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Re: CJ Hopkins latest … I think he’s low when he figures only 25% of people aren’t “all in” on the so-called new normal. I gauge it to be higher. Mosey on down to rural areas where vaxx uptake is low and see how many people are “all in” on the new normal. (hint: it’s not “lack of info and access” that keeps rural people from participating in institutionalized medicine and the vaxx campaign …)

    #79747
    DarkMatter
    Participant

    @House

    The covid risk vs. vaccine risk analysis is unfair. The covid risk calculator factors in age, comorbidities, etc. while the VAERS calculation does not. You would need a similar VAERS calculator to tell you what the risks of dying of the vaccine are for an apple to apples comparison.

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