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CDC Insists Benefits Of mRNA Vaccines Still “Clearly Outweigh” Risks (ZH)
Ultra-Contagious Lambda Variant Detected In Australia (NZH)
A Thread On Vaccines! (Neary)
Military Members Say They’ll “Quit” If Army Mandates COVID-19 Vaccine (ZH)
Adjuvant Quercetin Supplementation For Early-Stage COVID-19 Infection (Dove)
Santa Clara County Revises Official COVID-19 Death Toll Down by 22% (CBS)
Brazil’s Lower House Allows Breaking Vaccine Patents In Case Of Emergency (RT)
Dershowitz Predicts Charges Against Trump Org’s CFO Will Be Tossed (ZH)
The Wealth Effect Creates Wealth Disparity (WS)

 

 

Someone tweeted this graph and said: early treatment can’t be far off.

 

 

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Just the fact that they feel they need to re-state it says enough.

CDC Insists Benefits Of mRNA Vaccines Still “Clearly Outweigh” Risks (ZH)

With a new round of data out of Israel seemingly confirming what we have been reporting for weeks now, fresh questions are emerging about the efficacy of the mRNA vaccines (those produced by Pfizer and Moderna) and whether they’re truly 90%+ effective, as advertised. As the number of confirmed COVID cases topped 184MM, the Israeli health ministry shared preliminary data appearing to confirm that these vaccines are less effective at preventing infection via the Delta variant. Although the data must still be peer reviewed, the Israelis went so far as to proclaim that the true efficacy number is closer to 64%. To be sure, the vaccines continue to mostly prevent severe infection and death (though they’re only 93% effective at this, less than the 100% number initially touted by their corporate parents).

Now, with President Joe Biden publicly addressing the administration’s ongoing effort to combat COVID as case numbers continue to creep higher in the US, the CDC has chimed in – right on cue – to remind the world that the benefits of everybody taking the vaccine still far outweigh the risks posed by the rare (but sometimes deadly) side effects that have now also been documented. As we reported, the FDA now recognizes that the rare heart inflammation seen in some patients, including members of the military, have been linked to mRNA vaccines. So, with criticism and skepticism directed at the US-made vaccines mounting, the CDC on Tuesday tried its hand at a little damage control.

Per Bloomberg: “The benefits of messenger RNA Covid-19 vaccines clearly outweigh the risks despite heart complications seen in a relatively small number of mostly young men, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Roughly 1,200 cases of myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart wall, were reported in people who received mRNA vaccines, the CDC said in its Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report on Tuesday. But with about 296 million doses of mRNA vaccines having been administered as of June 11, the benefit is clear in all populations, including adolescents and young adults, the researchers reported.”

For the Biden Administration, the stakes have never been higher. COVID cases are rising, and many are blaming Southern and western states with lower vaccination rates as a potential vulnerability that could ignite another wave of COVID.

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Reaction? More lockdowns. Which have failed for 18 months now. And what are they trying to achieve? How long can you separate the entire country from the world? Until you reach zero, and then you can open and start all over again?

Ultra-Contagious Lambda Variant Detected In Australia (NZH)

The world’s most transmissible Covid-19 strain has found its way into Australia – with worrying research revealing it may be even more infectious than the Delta variant. The Lambda strain has puzzled World Health Organisation scientists after it spread to nearly 30 countries in the last four weeks. The mutation was originally discovered in Peru and is related to 81 per cent of the country’s cases since April. Peru currently has the highest Covid mortality rate in the world. In Australia, the variant was detected in an overseas traveller who had been in hotel quarantine in New South Wales in April, according to national genomics database AusTrakka. Early research shows it has not spread among the community in Australia.

Lambda has just started to make its way into the community in the UK, with six cases reported on Monday. It is a worrying sign for the UK, which has recently relaxed Covid-19 restrictions after 37 million people received at least one dose of a vaccine. The country had returned to normality in recent weeks, with pubs flooded by revellers enjoying their country’s recent success at Euro 2020. However, these civil liberties could change if the highly transmissible Lambda strain spreads across the community. Professor Pablo Tsukayama of Cayetano Heredia University in Lima, Peru, said the strain has exploded in Peru, suggesting “its rate of transmission is higher than any other variant”. His claims were backed up by a report by Jeff Barrett from London’s Covid-19 Genomics Initiative at the Welcome Sanger Institute.

“Lambda has a unique pattern of seven mutations in the spike protein that the virus uses to infect human cells. Researchers are particularly intrigued by one mutation called L452Q, which is similar to the L452R mutation to contribute to the high infectiousness of the Delta variant,” Barrett told the Financial Times. There is also concerning research that current vaccines are not as effective in neutralising the new strand, according to a report from scientists at the University of Chile in Santiago. “Our data show for the first time that mutations present in the spike protein of the Lambda variant confer escape to neutralising antibodies and increased infectivity,” they wrote in a pre paper report published last week.

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official Product Information file from the European Medicines Agency

A Thread On Vaccines! (Neary)

Many people have already taken the AstraZeneca vaccine, or want to take it. So I thought I’d read its official Product Information file from the European Medicines Agency. Some might call this “the small print”. Here is what I learned: Firstly, is it safe for children? “The safety and efficacy of Vaxzevria in children and adolescents (less than 18 years of age) have not yet been established. No data are available.” How about people with weak immune symptoms – is it safe for them? “The efficacy, safety and immunogenicity of the vaccine have not been assessed in immunocompromised individuals, including those receiving immunosuppressant therapy. How long does protection last? The EMA says that ongoing clinical trials will tell us: “The duration of protection afforded by the vaccine is unknown as it is still being determined by ongoing clinical trials.”

How about older people – will the vaccine work for them? Many of them have already taken it, of course. This is what the document says: “Currently available clinical trial data do not allow an estimate of vaccine efficacy in subjects over 55 years of age.” Sounds important! And for pregnant women: “There is limited experience with use of Vaxzevria in pregnant women. Animal reproductive toxicity studies have not been completed. Based upon results from the preliminary study, no effects are expected on development of the fetus.” Again, later in the document: “Animal studies of potential toxicity to reproduction and development have not yet been completed. A preliminary reproductive toxicity study in mice does not show toxicity in dams or foetuses.” Hopefully the animal trials will show it is safe!

How about studies relating to the risk of cancer and genetic mutations? “Neither genotoxicity nor carcinogenicity studies were performed. The components of the vaccine are not expected to have genotoxic potential.” Adverse reactions: – headache (52.7%) – fatigue (53.0%) – muscle pain (43.9%) – malaise (44.4%) – feverishness (33.5%), fever (7.6%), – chills (32.2%) – joint pain (26.6%) – nausea (22.2%). Most reactions were “mild to moderate in severity and usually resolved within a few days” And now the results: In the control group, 3% suffered “Covid” with at least one symptom. In the vaccinated group, 1.2% suffered “Covid” with at least one symptom. None of the vaccinated group were hospitalised by Covid, versus 0.2% of the control group (8 people out of 5,210) It has the medical equivalent of a provisional driving licence: “This medicinal product has been authorised under a so-called ‘conditional approval’ scheme. This means that further evidence on this medicinal product is awaited.”

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/documents/product-information/vaxzevria-previously-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-epar-product-information_en.pdf

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“I’ve been contacted by members of our voluntary military who say they will quit if the COVID vaccine is mandated”

Military Members Say They’ll “Quit” If Army Mandates COVID-19 Vaccine (ZH)

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) said he was informed by some members of the U.S. military that they would quit if the armed forces mandated a COVID-19 vaccine, coming after a report claimed that Army headquarters told commanders to prepare for mandatory vaccinations in September. “I’ve been contacted by members of our voluntary military who say they will quit if the COVID vaccine is mandated. I introduced HR 3860 to prohibit any mandatory requirement that a member of the Armed Forces receive a vaccination against COVID-19. It now has 24 sponsors,” Massie wrote on Twitter. He didn’t provide more details.

It isn’t clear how the service members could quit or how many would try to do so. Once a member reports to their first duty station, they are obligated to stay within the service of the armed forces. If a service member leaves without approval, they can be declared AWOL, or absent without leave. The Republican lawmaker was referring to a report published by the Army Times over the weekend that detailed an executive order sent by the Department of the Army Headquarters that commands should be prepared to administer COVID-19 vaccines starting as early as Sept. 1. The date is contingent on when the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issues its full approval of the vaccines. The Army Times reported that it had obtained the directive, HQDA EXORD 225-21, COVID-19 Steady State.

“Commanders will continue COVID-19 vaccination operations and prepare for a directive to mandate COVID-19 vaccination for service members [on or around] 01 September 2021, pending full FDA licensure. Commands will be prepared to provide a backbrief on servicemember vaccination status and way ahead for completion once the vaccine is mandated,” the directive reads. An EXORD is a directive issued by the president to the defense secretary to execute a military operation.

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Didn’t see this about quercetin before. We use it to make sure zinc gets into the cell.

Adjuvant Quercetin Supplementation For Early-Stage COVID-19 Infection (Dove)

The current pandemic, known as coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) triggered by the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2), is provoking devastating health, psychological and financial consequences worldwide.1–3 Although several vaccines have been developed, due to limitation in their manufacturing and distribution capacities, the desired globally “herd immunity” still appears to be a distant mirage. In addition, the constant mutations in SARS-CoV-2 put the effectiveness of these vaccination campaigns at serious risk regardless of its speed.4 The current antivirus agents being used, including hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, lopinavir/ritonavir, have not shown any conclusive benefits.

New possible treatments that are safe, affordable, and worldwide available targeting the SARS-CoV-2 are therefore urgently required.6 SARS-CoV-2 proteases, like 3-chymotrypsin-like protease (3CLpro), papain-like protease (PLpro), RNA-dependent RNA polymerase, spike (S) protein and human angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (hACE2) are considered possible targets for developing effective anti-COVID-19 drugs.7 Recently, molecular docking studies have suggested the possible binding interaction of quercetin with the 3CLpro, PLpro, and S-hACE2 complex.8–12 Some recent results, obtained by biophysical techniques, appear to support the results of the molecular docking studies.

Quercetin, a flavonol not naturally present in the human body, is the most abundant polyphenol in fruits and vegetable and is widely used as a dietary supplement to boost the immune system and promote a healthy lifestyle. Quercetin is characterized by three crucial properties: antioxidant, anti-inflammatory and immunomodulatory. The combination of these actions allows quercetin to be a potential candidate to support all unhealthy conditions where oxidative stress, inflammation and immunity are involved.

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That’s not much.

Santa Clara County Revises Official COVID-19 Death Toll Down by 22% (CBS)

On Friday, Santa Clara County health leaders announced a drop in its COVID-19 death toll by nearly a quarter after it refined its approach in reporting the data. The county reported that it had reviewed each COVID-19 fatality and was only counting those whose cause of death was from the virus and not those who tested positive for COVID-19 at the time of death but did not necessarily die from the virus. The new approach meant that the death toll dropped by 22%, specifically from 2,201 to 1,696 deaths. “It is important to go back and do this accounting to see if COVID was actually the cause of death,” said University of California San Francisco Prof. of Medicine and Infectious Disease expert Dr. Monica Gandhi.


“I think that transparent communication is an upside, I mean, in the sense that it’s true that if we did this across the nation, it would bring our death rate lower. A downside of that, could be that people will say, ‘Well, it wasn’t as serious as you said.’” The refined approach in Santa Clara County comes as county officials try to figure out the true impact of the virus on the community. Last month, Alameda County health leaders refined their approach to reporting COVID-19 deaths as well and also registered a drop in that county’s death toll by about a quarter. “In the midst of everything COVID people were sort of putting down that cause of death as COVID,” Gandhi said. “It is important to go back and do this accounting to see if COVID was actually the cause of death.”

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Why break patents of experimental drugs?

Brazil’s Lower House Allows Breaking Vaccine Patents In Case Of Emergency (RT)

The lower house of the Brazilian Congress has voted for a bill that would legalize the violation of patents for vaccines and medications in the event of a national health emergency. It will now go back to the Senate for approval. On Tuesday, the Chamber of Deputies voted 425 to 15 in favor of PL 12/2021. Sponsored by Aécio Neves da Cunha, a Social Democrat from Minas Gerais, the bill would authorize Congress to issue patent-breaking licenses “in case of a public health emergency,” without the approval of the head of state. President Jair Bolsonaro has opposed the proposal. The bill will now return to the Senate, which will decide whether to approve amendments adopted during Chamber debate. “There is an understanding that the changes… we introduced in the bill will also be incorporated in the Senate, which will maintain the text that we have negotiated here,” Neves said, according to Reuters.


One significant difference from the original is that patent holders will no longer be required to provide biological material to companies licensed to violate intellectual property under the emergency rules. The provision was declared “impractical,” “arbitrary” and in violation of Brazil’s constitutionally guaranteed principle of free enterprise. Another amendment would see IP holders compensated to the tune of 1.5% of the net sales involving the infringed medication or vaccine. The law was hailed by the Brazilian branch the NGO Doctors Without Borders (MSF). The measure “improves the current patent law, authorizing the application of compulsory licensing in a more complete and efficient manner, in this health emergency and others,” said MSF’s Brazilian coordinator Felipe Carvalho.

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“You can’t get a city district attorney indicting somebody for failing to pay federal income taxes when the IRS hasn’t even gone after him..”

Dershowitz Predicts Charges Against Trump Org’s CFO Will Be Tossed (ZH)

Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz says he believes federal tax fraud charges filed in New York City against The Trump Organization’s longtime finance chief will end up being dismissed. “You can’t get a city district attorney indicting somebody for failing to pay federal income taxes when the IRS hasn’t even gone after him,” Dershowitz said in a July 3 interview with Newsmax. “One of the charges, a major charge, is grand larceny against the United States government. “That shows the extent to which they are prepared to stretch existing law and the Constitution to give them authority over federal taxes. It’s absurd.”

On July 1, The Trump Organization and its chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, were charged in what New York prosecutors called a “sweeping and audacious” tax fraud scheme in which Trump’s company and Weisselberg allegedly cheated the state and city out of taxes by conspiring to pay senior executives off the books by way of fringe benefits, such as apartment rent and car payments. Prosecutor Carey Dunne said in court that the alleged scheme was “orchestrated by the most senior executives” at the firm and got “secret pay raises at the expense of state and federal taxpayers.” Weisselberg and attorneys for The Trump Organization have pleaded not guilty.

Ahead of the unsealing of the criminal indictment on July 1, The Trump Organization criticized Manhattan prosecutors for what they claimed was a partisan criminal investigation designed to hurt Trump politically. In a July 1 statement, The Trump Organization said the probe “is not justice; this is politics.” Dunne pushed back on the claim, saying that “politics has no role in the jury chamber, and I can assure you it had no role here.” Alan Futerfas, a member of The Trump Organization’s defense team, disagreed. “I believe the political forces driving today’s events are just that. It’s political, politically driven, notwithstanding the statements by my colleague at the DA’s office in court today,” Futerfas said.

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The Fed will end the US if the US doesn’t end the Fed first.

The Wealth Effect Creates Wealth Disparity (WS)

“The ‘wealth effect’ is the notion that when households become richer as a result of a rise in asset values, such as corporate stock prices or home values, they spend more and stimulate the broader economy,” the NBER said. And yes, after making about 10% of the population a lot richer and producing immense concentration of wealth at the top 1%, there are some minor trickle-down effects on the rest of the economy. Meanwhile, the already immense wealth disparity in the US between the top 10% and the bottom 50% – or worse still, the top 1% and the bottom 50% – blows out. Turns out, the lower 50% of Americans holds practically no stocks, no bonds, and very little real estate, according to the wealth distribution data from the Federal Reserve.

And these folks cannot benefit at all from the wealth effect. For them, life (such as housing) just gets more expensive as a result of the wealth effect. From the Federal Reserve’s data, as of Q1 2021: – The average household in the richest 10% owns $2.6 million in stocks and $1.2 million in real estate. – The average household in the richest 1% holds $16 million in stocks and $4 million in real estate. – The average household in the bottom 50% holds essentially no stocks, no bonds, and only small amounts of real estate. The wealthiest 1% is where the real concentration of wealth takes place. – The wealthiest 15 US individuals have a combined wealth of $2 trillion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index (June 2021). They benefit more than anyone from the wealth effect.

The Wealth Effect purposefully increases asset prices. But only the top 10% of households have significant amounts in assets. The bottom 50% hold nearly no stocks because they don’t make enough money to put anything aside. Many of these people live from paycheck to paycheck. But the Wealth Effect also makes housing more expensive – both buying and renting – and thereby the bottom 50% disproportionately pay for the Wealth Effect. For the bottom 50%, the Wealth Effect is a negative. This chart is from my Wealth Effect Monitor.

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    Oh, yeah- 😉

    #79095
    fortiori
    Participant

    Here is a timeline for the WEF’s CyberPolygon cyber pandemic unveiling up until now, side by side with the COVID-19 chronology. The similarities are striking

    What these similarities portend is not good, and I suggest that all of us should prepare for an extended power grid failure. For the full timeline with all the sources go here:

    http://tritorch.com/fi

    Please share this if you find it valuable. Preparation is key, and time is not on our side.

    June 2009: In the midst of the swine flu breakout the World Health Organization defangs their working definition of ‘pandemic’ by removing the requirement of “enormous numbers of deaths and illnesses”.

    Like magic, the WHO can now declare pandemics far more easily triggering billion dollar contracts with pharmaceutical companies–and it does so… with the already in-progress swine-flu outbreak.

    April 2015: In a Ted Talk Bill Gates predicts, “If anything kills over 10 million people in the next few decades, it’s most likely to be a highly infectious virus rather than a war”.

    January 2017: Dr. Fauci promises, “there is no question that there will be a challenge for the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases … there will be a surprise outbreak”

    Mid 2019: Dr. Fauci directs a total of $7.4 million in funding from NIAID to a lab in Wuhan China with some of the funds set aside to study ‘gain of function research’ for corona-viruses–making them far more infectious and deadly to human beings.

    http://tritorch.com/PCR.png

    August 2019: Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR test used to detect COVID-19 dies of pneumonia.

    Kary, who was openly critical of Dr. Fauci – calling him a fraud who had no problem lying to the American people and who, “doesn’t know anything about anything” – said many times that his PCR test could not be used to diagnose an illness, and that with a high enough cycle threshold you could find just about anything.

    Regardless, his PCR test was the primary test used to diagnose C-19, with the New York times later admitting that the non-test likely had a false positive rate in the neighborhood of 90%. This test was used to measure cases and cases were used to justify the lockdowns which severely wounded the world economy.

    October 2019: The WEF and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation host a pandemic simulation called ‘Event 201’ with dozens of corporate, political, and media participants scripting and acting out their response in the event a real one occurred.

    November 2019: Less than 2 months later in Wuhan China, C-19 enters the world stage and spreads rapidly across the globe leaving extreme economic havoc in its wake.

    http://tritorch.com/klausVader.jpg

    June 2020: Stereotypical Bond villain and leader of the WEF, Klaus Schwab releases his book, ‘COVID-19: The Great Reset’, a communistic creed describing a future where our biology will be merged with computers and AI. A dystopian scenario for the future outlined on their website and youtube channel is, “ by 2030 you will own nothing, have no privacy, and you will be happy.”

    http://tritorch.com/ownNothing.png

    http://tritorch.com/cycleExponential.png

    July 2020: Dr. Fauci admits that with a PCR test cycle threshold higher than 35, the COVID-19 test results are meaningless. This despite the fact that since the beginning of the pandemic, labs everywhere have run their PCR cycle thresholds in the 36 to 50 range and continued to do so even after Fauci’s July comments. This caused false-positive case counts to continue to explode across the world facilitating more stringent lock-downs.

    November 2020: Klaus Schwab releases a pair of videos of himself and a colleague warning that a global cyber pandemic is inevitable and that when it arrives it will shut down power grids across the world causing havoc that will far exceed the havoc already caused by the C-19 pandemic.

    http://tritorch.com/solarNightmare.png

    December 2020: Solar Winds – a giant cyber security firm whose security suite is installed on many of the major government and corporate networks across the first world – announces a catastrophic security breach in which hackers injected a back door into Solar Wind’s codebase, which was then distributed to all of their clients during the next update cycle–granting the hackers access to all of those systems. Rootkits were likely then deployed granting full undetectable control. This event now gives cover for the hacking of the world’s power grids due to the fact that those systems have been compromised by “bad actors”.

    http://tritorch.com/geoengineering.png

    February 2021: an extremely rare winter storm freezes Texas to near zero causing an extremely rare power grid failure across the state.

    http://tritorch.com/everGiven.png

    March 2021: the EverGiven – a ship the size of four city blocks – charts a cock and balls GPS course across the sea before securely lodging itself sideways in the Suez canal thereby clogging up the world’s most important shipping lane for six days.

    May 2021: bad actors launch a cyber attack against the computer systems of Colonial Pipeline – the largest pipeline in the United States which supplies 48% of the fuel requirements of the eastern seaboard of the country – causing it to go offline. Despite a number of spills due to negligence causing shutdowns throughout the years, this cyber attack event was so rare that it has never happened before.

    June, 1 2021, a cyber attack forces the shutdown of 5 JBS SA plants – the largerst meat plants in the world – which provide 20% of the meat supply of the United States.

    June, 23 2021, US National Guardsmen announce the completion of their annual a two-week cyber attack training exercise which simulates critical utilities being knocked offline across the United States.

    June, 25 2021, Microsoft announces that the hackers behind the catastrophic SolarWinds cyber attack have launched a fresh campaign mostly focusing on U.S. interests that, while mostly unsuccessful, managed to compromise three entities.

    July 2021, the WEF has scheduled a cyber pandemic simulation with political, business, and media leaders in the same vein as their Event 201 virus pandemic simulation. This event is titled CyberPolygon…

    #79124
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    It strikes me that the covid vaccine decisions (the emergency use authorizations, and the subsequent recommendations and pushes to get people vaccinated) are still based on beliefs. The EUAs were granted only after a panel of experts weighed in on the question of whether the benefits of the vaccines outweighed the risks. The experts were not unanimous. With incomplete data and some uncertainty, the decisions depend on personal judgements and beliefs.

    Imposing the covid vaccines is similar to imposing one’s religious beliefs on others. Unlike religious beliefs, however, the vaccine proselytizing is supposedly based on data supporting the belief that the benefits of the vaccines outweigh the risks.

    As far as the data goes, as time goes by, the trends are clear: The touted benefits are decreasing (less effectiveness), while the risks are increasing (as more harmful side effects are recognized). For the people who believe the benefits outweigh the risks, the shaky ground they stand on is continually being eroded away.

    Will they respond rationally? Or will they continue to cling to their prior beliefs, making the vaccination push become similar to state-sponsored religion?

    #79125
    Professorlocknload
    Participant

    The plandemic must continue until the day after the midterm election, then it will disappear into the ether. Because mail in ballots, you see?

    Meanwhile, only need to go into town once a month or so. This gardening is really paying off,,,in many ways 😉

    #79126
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “Will they respond rationally? Or will they continue to cling to their prior beliefs, making the vaccination push become similar to state-sponsored religion?”

    Ummmm they haven’t responded rationally from the beginning, so either they’re all crazy or its just following the plan. You guys need to grapple with the fact that you’re at war, and talking nicely and laying out arguments isn’t going to change a thing.

    #79127
    Mr. House
    Participant

    The first casualty of war is………….

    #79128
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @laffin_boy: “… our ONLY REAL PROBLEM – that a few thousand sociopaths now effectively control an entire planet of 7+ billion people.”

    There is fairly effective control of the NARRATIVES the sociopaths push. But those narratives are not lived reality for what is, most likely, the majority of people on this planet. To think that a few thousand sociopaths CONTROL 7+ billion people? Um … No. They. Don’t.

    I do agree that the enemy is us. 😉

    #79129
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @fortiori

    Thank you for the timeline, i think something with the powergrid will happen in the fall or summer. The evidence (both documented and from observing reactions to pushback) all scream at the top of its lungs that something is rotten in denmark, but we wish to continue to argue and convince ourselves it isn’t so. People couldn’t be so evil

    #79130
    Mr. House
    Participant

    summer was supposed to be winter. The better to kill off more old people/useless eaters, no power and da vaccines doing their thang

    #79131
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “…laying out arguments isn’t going to change a thing.”

    It might help change some minds. There’s not much else some of us can do at this point.

    #79132
    Mr. House
    Participant

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-07-07/covid-propaganda-roundup-goon-squad-now-blaming-racism-russians-vaccine-hesitancy

    This seems like a rational response….. if you are trying to unpeople a certain segment of your population and make the act of removing them from society less horrendous

    #79133
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Doc Robinson: “As far as the data goes, as time goes by, the trends are clear: The touted benefits are decreasing (less effectiveness), while the risks are increasing (as more harmful side effects are recognized). For the people who believe the benefits outweigh the risks, the shaky ground they stand on is continually being eroded away. Will they respond rationally? Or will they continue to cling to their prior beliefs, making the vaccination push become similar to state-sponsored religion?”

    I think they’ve lost control of the narrative. Vaccine uptake in the US has fallen off a cliff. People are not showing up to get their second injection. Hence the need for religious figureheads to now hop into the fray and pronounce coercive edicts on why you should get a vaccine for the greater good. Yeah? Really?? Good luck with that. Plenty of people have refused vaccines for decades due to religious beliefs. Now you’re telling them they’ve been wrong all this time?

    The elite sociopaths appear to be losing and one of the means they have left to try is religion? Something wrong with this picture.

    #79134
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “Impoverished residents of the Third World are not, in fact, “struggling to get vaccinations” because Nebraska corn farmers won’t take their shots (or whatever the lazy insinuation from NPR is here); rather, they can’t access said “vaccines” because self-professed philanthropist Bill Gates refuses to share “vaccine” formulas with third-party manufacturers in a cynical ploy to protect Big Pharma profits.”

    More likely he doesn’t want them to know what is in them…………….

    #79135
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    To clarify. Doc Robinson raises a good point, as always. I believe people will stop clinging to their prior beliefs and the vaccine push will not become state-sponsored religion.

    The gig is up. The plug is pulled. The nutjobs need to gather up their marbles and go home.

    #79136
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @upstateNYer

    If you believe the numbers they are putting out with regards to people who are vaccinated, i for one do not. Some counties have started to review their covid casualty figures and are finding that 25% were not covid deaths and that is probably an understatement. I think its higher then that, the CDC itself says that 94% of all deaths occurred in someone who had 2 or 3 comorbiditys and strangely that number has remained consistent from the getgo.

    #79137
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Welcome new people. Good posts.

    #79138
    Mr. House
    Participant

    #79139
    zerosum
    Participant

    Our knowledge, being aware/informed, of what is happening does not mean that we will survive the culling.
    Our advance age is our blessing/ticket of NOT experiencing the worst of what is to come.
    Yesterday is gone.
    Why buy a loto ticket?

    #79140
    zerosum
    Participant

    Old news
    In August 2017, reacting to a hostile speech by US President Trump, a Taliban spokesman retorted that they would keep fighting to free Afghanistan of “American invaders”.[240]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

    Most Taliban are Pashtun tribesmen in Afghanistan.
    On 3 November 1994, the Taliban in a surprise attack conquered Kandahar City.[7] Before 4 January 1995, they controlled 12 Afghan provinces.[7] Militias controlling the different areas often surrendered without a fight. Omar’s commanders were a mixture of former small-unit military commanders and madrassa teachers.[111][112][113][114][115] At these stages, the Taliban were popular because they stamped out corruption, curbed lawlessness, and made the roads and area safe.[7]

    #79141
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Mr House: no, I do not believe the numbers they are putting out regarding how many people are vaccinated. That’s why I commented, in response to Doc Robinson’s post, that I believe “the vaccine push will not become state-sponsored religion.” It appears I was a bit wishy-washy in my two comments – sorry about that!

    #79142
    Mr. House
    Participant

    No worries, and i do not mean to come off aggressive in my comments if that is how they’re taken.

    #79143
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Mr., … eh, I’m in a foul mood today so my apologies. Pissed at this [global] utter madness which appears to have no end (that said after having a neighbor tell me earlier that I should “just get vaccinated because it’s no big deal”). For gods sake, do they not understand that in our protest, in our being shunned and ostracized, we are trying to HELP?

    I’m thinking the approach of “please let me ever so kindly help you understand” is blatantly naive, ridiculously stupid, and has almost zero chance of working. I’m now leaning toward using a f*** you response.

    Bad day. 🙁

    #79144
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    The CDC’s data (updated daily) says that still less than half of the US population is fully vaccinated. Only 47.6% fully, and 55.1% if those with only one dose are included. The narrative breaks down if there are large unvaccinated segments of the population that are doing fine. Door-to-door scolding is a sign of desperation.

    The upcoming booster shots will be an opportunity for the already-vaccinated to cut their losses and not submit to more unnecessary risks.

    https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

    #79145
    laffin_boy
    Participant

    @upstateNYer

    “There is fairly effective control of the NARRATIVES the sociopaths push. But those narratives are not lived reality for what is, most likely, the majority of people on this planet. To think that a few thousand sociopaths CONTROL 7+ billion people? Um … No. They. Don’t”.

    Sorry but once you truly understand the mechanisms of propaganda you understand that controlling the Narrative IS, effectively, complete control. As you know most of us can’t even convince OUR OWN CHILDREN, let alone our friends & neighbors, not to get jabbed. This IS our “lived reality”. The fact that you & I & 12 other troublemakers can talk about this on a sorta public venue doesn’t change the picture at all. Control, coerced or by force, is never 100% and doesn’t need to be. With control of 95% of the narrative and 65% of the hearts & “minds” then they have to power to do whatever they want – whenever they want. And they do.

    If you were to examine your instinctive reaction to the word “Control” I suspect you’d find the threat of physical force lurking in the background. It’s this instinct that causes some people to stock on M-16 ammo while they still watch 4 hrs of TV a day. They’ve already lost because they don’t have a clue about how this battle is being waged.

    Also I can’t help but notice that you continue to refer to the people behind this crime as “Elites”. It isn’t an accident that EVERYBODY uses the EXACT SAME TERM. Do you really think this is by accident? “Framing” (in a linguistic sense) is a key element of effective propaganda. If I can trick you into consistently calling me an Elite than i’ve successfully elevated myself in relation to you in YOUR (unconcious) mind. George Laykoff explains how that works:

    Framing 101

    #79146

    Yeah, vaccination numbers will be exaggerated, adverse reactions will be downplayed, both in numbers and in severity, the media don’t give news, but a narrative.

    #79147
    willem
    Participant

    “Just the fact that they feel they need to re-state it says enough…”CDC Insists Benefits Of mRNA Vaccines Still “Clearly Outweigh” Risks (ZH)”

    I had the same thought back in the late 1980s when I started noticing signs posted at my local Savings & Loan stating: “Your deposits are protected by the full faith and credit of the United States government.”

    #79148
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @laffin, great response! 🙂 I don’t believe “they” have control of 65% of the world’s hearts & minds. You seem to be primarily referencing the hearts & minds of western societies … how about we include the so-called 3rd world societies (how many billion is that?) and try to gauge where their hearts & minds are? Those who live without TV, internet, and twitface, and who have been physically harmed on multiple occasions by western societies, including through the use of vaccinations. Where are their hearts & minds?

    And … the flip side of “most of us can’t even convince OUR OWN CHILDREN, let alone our friends & neighbors, not to get jabbed” would be … then how come THEY are able to completely control the narrative and thus win the hearts and minds of most of the world’s population? If we can’t win the minds of our loved ones, they most certainly can’t win the minds of EVERYONE.

    Controlling the narrative is not complete control. To believe that to be true, is to believe we might as well crawl in a hole and pull the dirt down on top of ourselves.

    PS … I call them elites because it’s a term everyone understands. There isn’t an ounce of me that subscribes to it. Even as a youngster I understood that “everyone puts their pants on the same way.” I don’t believe anyone is elite. I don’t fawn over athletes, actors, politicians, etc. Never have. Never will. In the future I’ll call them what they are. Greedy, sociopathic scum. Thank you for pointing that out. Appreciated. 🙂

    #79149
    TAE Summary
    Participant

    * Ivermectin Questions
    – How does one pay for Ivermectin?
    – Is Quercetin better than Ivermectin?
    – Is Pierre Kory the new Jim Jones with Ivermectin the new Koolaid?
    – With pharmacies in SF closing where will people shoplift their Ivermectin?

    * Covid and Vaccination
    – Injecting all with a spike protein generating gene therapy is a war time effort and needs a war time president
    – Be sure to thank everyone who participated in the experimental vaccine trial for giving you the freedom to hug your kids; Hail to thee, fat person! You kept us out of war!
    – Most people in the world can’t get delivery of a super cooled experimental spike protein generating gene therapy so Covid is endemic
    – Q: How many deaths should disqualify a vaccine? A: Safe and Effective
    – Keep hope and hysteria alive until cases rise in October
    – To insure domestic tranquility Biden will send federal employees door to door to ask if you’ve been vaccinated and offer you a free jab; Don’t worry, safety, effectiveness and privacy are their top concerns
    – US Military will require personnel to get vaccinated; Some troops want to desert but must weigh getting jabbed vs. getting shot
    – More in NY die from guns than from Covid, or both
    – As the west declines, nextgen vaccines will be developed by candlelight using stone knives and bearskins
    – Covid decisions are based on religious beliefs; We need more JW’s in the CDC
    – Covid will disappear after the midterms when Joe says he’s sorry, kind of like the Oobleck
    – There are lies, damn lies and Covid statistics

    * AI – Pay no attention to the programmer behind that curtain. The great Sophia has spoken
    – The sociopaths that rule want a trainable, omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent intelligence that will beam cheaper-than-fact-opinions directly into your clownfish-like, idiot-cow brain
    – Deus Est Machina

    * The chaos tipping point nears
    – Refuse to play the vaccination game
    – If we accept a killer vaccine we will accept anything
    – The fewer the resistors the greater the required individual impedance
    – Knowing won’t stop culling
    – Things will play out as the play out, or not

    * In autumn the leaves come blowing, yellow and brown.
    They rustle in the ditches, they tug and hang on the hedge.
    Where are you going leaves? Far, far away
    Into the earth we go, with the rain and the berries.
    Take me, leaves, O take me on your dark journey.
    I will go with you, I will be rabbit-of-the-leaves,
    In the deep places of the earth, the earth and the rabbit.
    — Silverweed

    #79150
    Mr. House
    Participant

    On a lighter note, most of us probably feel like this is the world we’re living in 😉

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Mouth_of_Madness

    #79151
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Got in an elevator, headed to visit a client at the local retirement community. A lady was entering the elevator just before me, she was unmasked, I was masked. “Is it okay if I share the elevator with you?” I asked.

    “Are you vaccinated?” She replied.

    “No,” I said — her body stiffened and she looked stressed, “I already had Covid and I recovered. I am immune.”

    Her posture softened a little. “Well, you should still get the vaccine.” She paused, then continued, “For added protection.”

    “I know that is what has been said, but I have researched this extensively, and I disagree.”

    I could tell that she was very uncomfortable with my response. And then her level came up and she exited.

    ~~~~~

    Yet, if those who have done the research, seen the patients with adverse vaccine reactions, mined through the VAERs data, and/or followed the work of those doing these things are not willing to stand up and be counted as dissidents, who is going to stand up? I’m sure there are many who are uncomfortable about the vaccines but haven’t done the research and aren’t sure of which choice to make. If we stand up, then it becomes so much easier for those who are less confident to also stand with us, and learn from us.

    (Oh, and it is amusing when I realize I have such strong convictions about “standing for what I believe in,” recognizing that I was trained in Sunday School to be this way, the learning stuck, but the dogma it was attached to originally didn’t survive life’s vicissitudes.)

    #79152
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
    And sorry I could not travel both
    And be one traveler, long I stood
    And looked down one as far as I could
    To where it bent in the undergrowth;

    Then took the other, as just as fair,
    And having perhaps the better claim,
    Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
    Though as for that the passing there
    Had worn them really about the same,

    And both that morning equally lay
    In leaves no step had trodden black.
    Oh, I kept the first for another day!
    Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
    I doubted if I should ever come back.

    I shall be telling this with a sigh
    Somewhere ages and ages hence:
    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
    I took the one less traveled by,
    And that has made all the difference.

    #79153
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @TAE summary: “– US Military will require personnel to get vaccinated; Some troops want to desert but must weigh getting jabbed vs. getting shot”

    Laugh out loud. Literally. Now that was epic.

    @phoenix: I was trained in Sunday School, too. Interesting you bring that up. Thank you! Need to think more about that.

    #79154
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ Mr. House
    Your comment #79126 expresses my thinking. I also see it as a war and actions are required.

    #79155
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Michael: what action would that be?

    #79156
    Mr. House
    Participant

    A platform, a declaration of what we believe in. Something that can’t be called “racist” or the “patriarchy”. An organization that doesn’t need a leader because the principles it is built on do the leading. How’s that for a start?

    #79157
    Mr. House
    Participant

    i think my rant a few days ago eg. reinstate glass stegal, break up mega corps, create laws that limit the size of big biz, term limits, no lobbying unless its public and serves the public interest, corporations must reapply for a charter after so many years, ect ect ect, was a decent start.

    #79158
    SeaBirds
    Participant

    “Ultra-Contagious Lambda Variant Detected In Australia”

    In New Zealand the PR campaign has the populace well-primed, apparently ready to jump queues in their desperation to get the jab! The New Zealand government is rumoured to be having delays with Pfizer vaccine supplies. They may fear that these delays will take the heat out of their fear campaign, ergo this latest booster in the NZ Herald. You see it everywhere, Bloomberg is needling the Europeans “Europe Threatened With Delta Now Faces Slower Vaccination Rates”: “The virus can kill you, the vaccine is there to save you, so don’t hesitate” says the French Junior Minister for tourism. “Maybe we could have a vaccination weekend for Germany to really reach everybody, and then we will achieve a high rate”, says Germany’s Health Minister Spahn.
    “We have a fight against time between the capacity of the virus to differentiate itself and our capacity to vaccinate”, says Portuguese Prime Minister Costa.

    As Dr. D famously and aptly said “Mouth opens, lies come out.” :-))


    @expatkiwi
    and @VArnold
    When I ordered IVM from Kachela a couple of months ago, Wise.com refused to pay to that account. I did succeed paying in USD using XE.COM. Others are reporting success with revolut

    #79159
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Raúl: “Reaction? More lockdowns. Which have failed for 18 months now. And what are they trying to achieve? How long can you separate the entire country from the world? Until you reach zero, and then you can open and start all over again?”

    It’s not all bad. The Australia Institute, an august non-neoliberal economic thinktank, is pointing out that the barriers to easy international travel into and out of Australia are having positive economic effects. Instead of neglecting our own people and importing cheap, already-trained slaves workers from overseas, we are being forced to train and hire locals — just as we did prior to the adoption of globalist policies. This is good.

    The vastly overheated housing market is calming down and becoming somewhat more affordable.

    However, the flight of people from our overstuffed cities into small towns is not doing the locals there any good as they are being priced out of their own housing — purchase and rental — by the influx of urban sea-changers.

    The Federal government recently announced plans to stop trying to extinguish the Plague and live with it, à la Singapore. So far it’s lomng on ideals and short on details, but it’s a start.

    HOWEVER, when it comes to dealing with the Plague, the ONLY treatment one reads and hears about is Vaccines! Vaccines! Vaccines! The people know nothing else. It’s not their fault.

    #79160
    Bill7
    Participant

    Mr. House said:

    “A platform, a declaration of what we believe in. Something that can’t be called “racist” or the “patriarchy”. An organization that doesn’t need a leader because the principles it is built on do the leading. How’s that for a start?”

    Good call. That’s why idPol and “wokeness” were invented, IMO: they’re intentionally solidarity-destroying;
    by making discourse near-impossible without causing offense to the other. Mmm.. perfect. 😉

    I think you’re on the right track.

    #79161
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @bill7

    Exactly, occupy wall street might have frightened them. So many different groups coming together to protest the same thing. So they studied it, did the “market” research and then turned it on its head with ID pol. If others think ID pol is organic and not a product of the “intelligence” agencies i’ve got a cure for covid to sell ya 😉

    Remember how they cracked down on occupy wall street? Generally if you’re getting flak you must be over the target. Wonder why antifa and BLM don’t get any flak? Ha also, did anyone see that a “patriot” group from texas decided to march in philly on july 4th to spew their stupid ideas? A group from texas, drives to philly to march and spew racist ignorant ideas. Nope, couldn’t have been a false flag group, FBI didn’t have nothing to do with it.

    https://6abc.com/patriot-front-philadelphia-protest-white-supremacist/10858983/

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