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Also – this is huge, but woke up this morning and thought of Dr D’s position and then Yemen came to mind and I thought 5000 people…. I know more will die but there is just so much death going on that is preventable by govt. and popular action. People the world over can mobile so fast out of self interest but can’t seem to see the ‘other’ as a brother from another mother.
Same with nature.I’m gunna get back into meditation
Yeah Doc Robinson, not sure myself about the higher temperatures thingy. Australia seems to be following the same pattern of rising infections and according to that temperature map we be the hottest place on earth. So from a climate change perspective – reduction in industrial output is supposed to make me feel bad?…..
Very confusing times.“When schools close, mothers get worried – and this stops economic activity,” industry consultant and former GM executive Warren Browne said.
Damn! I had a feeling all along it was women and children responsible for the ecological holocaust of the modern market economy. Damn them.
So glad I was finally told what’s been going on.Raul – you know we all hang out for the feed and analysis. Now lock down is happening, waiting for your post is like being one of those morons standing outside the department stores for after christmas sales.
Also thanks to all of you contributing to comments for additional info and analysis.Fourth turning is making me dizzy. Ok, so I have always had an emergency cash and dry goods supply for me and the family – in case of fire, accident, war whatever. But if everyone is gunna rush the stores now I am going to have to refine the plan….. and get more – this thing could drag on…
Definitely getting the hot water jacket hooked up to the stove – wood I own, Gas, well the Oligarchs may need to sell it for more than I can afford.
Soon we will get to the social distancing here in Australia and kids won’t go to school so it’s bulk buying time I am afraid.Clearly we should run an 80 year old with 5 heart attacks who can’t stand up for 30 minutes rather than a 40-year-old decorated woman-of-color Army Major centerfold surfer. That’s just common sense!
Nope, you are not running out of words.
If you were a Jazz musician I’d tell you to write pop songs Dr D. You got licks for days.But hang on, I thought the dems wanted the next president a woman.
Still no toilet paper at the super market. I was chuckling looking at the huge empty space in the consumer vortex, however a reasonable young woman of about 20 was not as impressed – but it was even funnier because we both knew as we stood there we were thinking about poo and our toilets and what was missing as interface between them. I have a wife and two kids – 2 and 10. I have in the wood shed about 2 years worth of newspaper the council shoves in my letter box so luckily I have the composting toilet.Speaking of not caring. Wars are so boring when it’s just other people with our guns.
Outbreak. Virus. Pandemic. Lockdown. Pathogen. Vaccine.
I mean they just read well – hashtag trendingThe Media can’t help themselves.
No toilet paper on the shelves.
It’s getting a reaction
Damn Covid-19’s got traction.Sorry…… I should be at the piano but this crazy dumb-shit world!
Interesting Dr.D re the Italians locking down to ride out ye olde black plague way back when- that again originated in the East or Far East – China. Why do so many the nasty virusy thingies come from China? (Although it may have come from somewhere else). Some of the best bacterially dominated soils on earth with crap loads of humans and wide variety of dietary habits?
I dunno but it is weird. And those poor Italians – I didn’t know Florence took so damn long to recover – economically and socially (well socially they have really hung on to dark horror movies so……).
Still not a lot of people dying yet so I am backing your horse in this race.
We have some mud slinging going on here in Australia between politicians (protecting the people on the front line) and rich doctors (desperate to keep the good name of their practice clean now that one has gotten all Corona).Everyone is doing the funky chicken over this virus. I am glad TAE is covering the show.
It has the strange effect economically of kind of giving the population a little shake that says ‘hey the govt’ won’t really look after you. The media lie to you. The banks and corporations are out to get you. You have to start to look after yourselves’
That’s what this tiny little virus mixed in the age of too much fake news and weirdness is telling us.
In Australia the reaction has been to clean out all the supermarkets of toilet paper – which is Freud for “I am now shitting myself”
I just look forward to the seed section being cleaned out. Then we are headed in the right direction.
Dr D. You are onto it – it is a thing but it is a heist. Even if it is not a bullshit story there are just so many bullshit stories that you have to just put it in there with the rest by default.Assange is just being tortured. It is cruel and these people are able to just go about their business doing this harm and get paid for it by taxpayers. The Judge is just a straight up piece of shit. It is a crazy world full of crazy people. We need more love man. We really do.
Nice pick of Dr John there too.That graph on dependency relationships to China did not have Australia on it. Weird coz we are ALL IN!
I see a major reset on the horizon. Well maybe the horizon is a bit far. I see it in my lounge room. I actually see a big mess. Businesses the world over are just gonna be making phone calls like crazy – (invest in telecommunications!) Trying to order some version of stock from somewhere else. Perhaps this is the dawn of the Repair Cafe. Mend and make do mutha ‘ckers2 things. Can Trump throw Julian a bone then?
Can the British just enough already with the Antiques Roadshow mania. It is getting boring now. It’s there’s give it back, if nana still wants it too bad, be a grown up. You’ll survive. Although I wonder if your zero carbon emissions would survive a thorough review of the financial services sector and it’s funding arm? Carbon free off shore account activities and shell companies – I don’t f’ing think so.Any of these philanthropists are absolutely morally bankrupt. How can you be in the business of destroying huge parts/components/regions of the environment and then say you are making an attempt to save it? It is by definition insanity. I really want to have compassion for these people who are literally, clinically insane but they make me angry. I think of indigenous elders and chiefs just looking at the invaders taking down 3000 year old trees or damming rivers and I can see the same case. It is looking at an insane person and having compassion but knowing they will ultimately kill you and the world you love. It is the great plains with more than 60 million bison to 540 animals in 100 years. It really pisses me off.
The manufacturing of key components of medicine in China is fascinating to me. This outsourcing and just in time delivery thingy is brittle at the core. This virus is just one of many potential threats to the reliable arrival of what we need. This is really starting to look like a big time humanitarian disaster rolling out. I hope things get better soon. The Chinese are just stuck in their houses with no work and a huge sense of fear. They must be getting stir-crazy too. As for being on that cruise ship – bugger that!
Dr D. the top 10 logical fallacies with bonus number 11 was great – I’d like to add my newest favourite is virtue signalling. It is so hot right now. I read the internet so I must be a smart person who knows all about stuff.
Actually I am completely lost.Holy Crap! exponential and not quadratic. Seems obvious now it’s laid out….. Shit – this could get a lot worse before it gets better. Thanks so much for putting this article together Raul, it explains so many things – the massive lockdown – which would only have been done for the gravest of reasons, the delays in all info etc. The Spanish flu wiped out so many people but at a time when there wasn’t that many people so on a purely “it’s just math” level we could see a lot of people die and a lot of MAJOR disruption to markets and regular going’s on…
Great thread today but maybe I just get off on disaster-porn. Pensions are a bomb waiting to go off, the FED is absolutely driving everyone against the wall – all central banks are the same. Too many humans equals this virus going ape-shit. China is the weak link in the chain of supply if you can believe that sentence could be true. Maybe we are entering some crazy-arse Mayan calendar shit this year or something.
It must be said I agree about the bees- if the climate is so hard for the little guys then what the fuck are they doing here in Australia? I have 14 hives and they are going gangbusters. We got minus 4 celsius in winter and then reached 45 degrees this summer. They are fine…. Just stop dropping Napalm on them in the morning and they will keep thriving- I hate that smell.BTWSo I guess it’s time to start taking Zinc and vitamin D 3 then…… I mean I’m very fit and healthy ( install edible food gardens for my day job and homestead other times) but I’m not eating enough greens.
On another note – If nicole and Raul were advocating for a little cash hoarding and paying down your debts last time round – what is the best thing that China supply that I should stock up on so I can make a killing when it all runs out? Oh hang on that is like everything
Maybe it’s just mung beans, rice and some safety masks. A sense of humour has gotta be worth somethin’ too. World is getting heavy as shit right now.I think you can write what ever you want. We nearly lost the Debt rattle not so long ago. Just keep writing about what ever inspires you. But if I had my way it would be less US politics and more environmental shift and change which the virus most definitely falls under. The bigger the system the more interesting for me and lets face it the US is not that interesting.
The old folks on the cruise ship are doing their bit for the environment. In other news so is the oil industry by saving some of it for the future (even though they wanna use it up as fast as they can for dollars, I think also the airlines are helping hugely. They must have asked the question – “We have declared a climate emergency now what do we do?” Ah get a real job and learn to use your damn hands again or alternatively …..
Do nothing and all things will be done.I know people have to eat and protect crops but at some stage in the future aerial spraying of pesticide is gonna produce worse outcomes than we are getting now. Feedback loops etc. Crazy times indeed
In September last year the BOM National weather agency – issued a statement indicating stratospheric warming above the south pole that hadn’t occurred in a century or so. This air dumped across the mid latitudes of the Australian continent and they saw it coming. Cold water off the west coast of Australia (in dynamics with the warm as hell water off the east coast of Africa) only added to the drying of the air mass and the accumulation of searing desert air that has to periodically vent in a large circle. This very hot and super dry air picks up speed as it leaves these seemingly endless thermal storage areas of Australia and then flows over high rainfall forests. These forests produce seed that are largely only germinated by fire so it was always going to happen. The climate is changing but an event like this would have to occur (although less intensely) every so often. The original human inhabitants of this continent were quite aware they weren’t living in humid temperate areas. The landscape has always had periods of drought and that is why fire stick culture was used to burn the place.
When you have the sun’s energy stored in such perfect and efficient vessels (Eucalypts and Acacias and the rest) it is disaster waiting to happen – something TAE is well equipped to understand. It’s like Hubbert’s peak ramping to a cliff.
It is a tricky one for us who know better. We don’t have firestick knowledge and we have to stay still because land is an asset now. But we know this land needs fire. But needs a personal touch. You can’t get agencies to do this right – it has to be the job of family and tribe.
So what do we do?
For now…. build houses that are designed for these events. Cut down and manage trees with wider spacings to mimic pre-european landscapes. And never ask a politician to lead you back to nature…..Thanks so much for the suggestions and helping me relax re the tone…. I really appreciate the thoughtful response to my question and as always – to the crazy fucked-up world today.
There is a high likelihood I’ll be interviewing Julian Assange’s father on public radio in the next week or so and I am nervous about it. Does anyone have key questions they believe I should ask him other than the obvious health issues and state of the man?. I want the listeners to get maximum benefit from the opportunity and I don’t want to screw it up – after all I’m not the towering intellect of Dr D 🙂
Thanks Raul, that poem by Clive is really beautiful. Particularly the middle section where he is aware of his end but becomes more in the present. I hope to take that tone more going forward, been a bit up tight with worldly fools…
That stuff you wrote about Monbiot is true. The meal ticket kills all the truth that he would believe and packages it within that greasy newspaper. Like putting lipstick on a pig. Tell it like it is Ilargi.
Also, when you are planting fruit trees and installing veggie gardens and the rest as your way of generating income – as I do, you do sometimes scratch your head and wonder why so many of us want so many useless and lifeless things like gaming consoles and methamphetamines, I was netting Cherries for one of my clients today and took home a bunch and thought to my self so many of us could actually just do shit like this but we come up with a lot of reasons to eat up a lot of the earths energy.
Very confusing….it’s quite the balancing act – you have to be self-employed to pull it off – that of earning just enough income to have very little or no tax (here in Australia). You also want to get most of your money immediately spent on useful things like buildings, fencing, water tanks and earthworks. Things hard to steal and somewhat diffuse. A few truckloads of topsoil and some bird netting too.
Oh and Ilargi the Nate Hagens article was such a nice summary of things as they are in the human superorganism and gave me a lot of food for thought and a real desire for more action on my end.So thanks for thathttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800919310067#bib0530
I know I’m off topic but that last article by Hagens got me thinking of energy in decline right now.
My chainsaw playing up and was talking to the old timer at the repair joint today, who told me that a life time of fixing small engines has brought him to the conclusion that the fuel is inferior to what it used to be and a major reason for the rising repair rates of high quality brands like Stihl and Husqvarna. But I guess now Morales is out we can get those battery operated ones and throw all the old ‘polluting’ ones in the bin. And anyway Australia is the worlds biggest producer of lithium so we’ll soon be able to visit the “Elon Musk future museum theme park” on our flying vac-bots all the way to Mars baby.I think Raul is right to posit the bullshit thrown at Trump, not because poor Donald needs our defence but because we are looking for the truth in the lies here. Sure Trump is a dickhead but the circus going on to win the minds of the voters is tearing the country apart it would seem. Just make some good policy and go for it. Sell it. DO SOMETHING in opposition.
And as for Dr D’s comments on the climate yesterday – typically ‘yawn’ Northern Hemispheric view – it’s okay, I grew up with it – we are called Down Under after all but It is so goddam hot here it is not funny and I reckon your chilly bidness that is apparently so cold that farming is a drag must be getting eclipsed here by our heat 16 heat records for November broken in a day in One State Alone. 44 celsius in spring aint no cold world. Nope
Not At All Cold. Not even slightly. It’s just fire in every state of our Union down here. Summer is December and January and Feb and it’s not here yet. God Help Us.Nicole, years ago wrote this analogy of when the money and energy start to decline, the periphery gets the life sucked out of it at the expense of the core. The heart steals the blood to keep the brain and the heart alive while the limbs perish.
I just didn’t imagine the heart would have no love and the brain would go insane. The impeachment thingy is the perfect symbol of this.
But we are at that point and so very close to mass debtors prisons – oh sorry that’s right they are here now and they are called the suburbs, where you get carpet and netflix to help you sleep so you can go back to planet raping jobs each morning and get that old trophic pyramid sucking life out of population feed lot centres (called cities on fake news stations) through a tube to the Cayman Islands.
You know I grew up with a single mum with 2 siblings in government housing so I always hated the rich. But now that I am financially independent I hate them even more.It seems to me that the frustration we mostly feel on this site and in this comments room is that we have the enlightened masters above us (Bhudda, Jesus and the Saints etc) and a whole world of liars and cheats and malevolent bullies below us. Bullies who have made it impossible for any, among the dull and dreamy bottom 99% who would like to know or be informed of the truth get even a glimpse of truth and justice. They are all indebted to the banks and spend most of the waking life on the grind. They are all too tired and broke.
I fell like I’m a part of a middle group – the limbo club. Not saintly but not able to look away either. It is a piece of shit situation. I think those funny vids from bosco yesterday were mildly interrupting but christ I needed them.A whole continent on fire. I’ll give you a whole continent on fire – it’s called Australia and so far this year we are at over 1.1 million hectares burnt (2.7 million acres) – California has had less than a tenth of that this year.
The thing is summer hasn’t started yet and Antarctica had crazy high levels of Stratospheric warming this winter so there is a shit load of dry warm air for this season……
I live in the bush myself and I have been tree-thinning (reducing the number of small diameter logs to encourage large diameter logs) for years, so my place has fuel loads well considered but the indigenous people who lived here for 60,000 years managed these landscapes with fire and then we just think it is an english garden or something. Barely a single tree in our forests would even be there if a fire hadn’t germinated the seed. It is a FIRE ecology so if the government is making indigenous practice illegal we have to improvise – forest thinning. Currently comes with huge fines of up to $20,000 but will be mandatory soon because you know large centralised market based systems are so good at living with nature and understanding feedback loops and fallback mechanisms and the rest.
When Europeans arrived they could walk from Melbourne to the Goldfields in a few days as the whole continent was a managed estate. The paintings and letters all describe a park like country. So much to learn.
Centralised systems suck major ass! Give me some autonomy and me and my good neighbours will make this place a paradise – or something close.
Or maybe I’m dreaming. I have been known to be wrong, misguided and misinformed – thats how you know to find me here on TAE 🙂I’m with Maxwell Quest. The banking cartels and the financial system need serious tanking for any meaningful turn around but I don’t see it happening yet. Look in my situation if I want to keep the lights on using little energy – I can make bees wax candles (and bee keeping is giving me the shits right now as it is time consuming). But who the fuck is gonna do that? The Europeans and Americans with their mass inject die-off? The Indians and the Chinese who are just swimming in their free time and wake up each morning with fresh wheatgrass juice shots and a meet with their personal trainers? Nah – we are screwed until a few very unpleasant outbreaks of whatever (omni-violence, genetic weirdness, AI gone bad, wars or maybe – just trending right now – the old climate emergency hashtag/unreliablefood thingy) sinnycool – you are spot on in my view.
Yes John, I believe you are right now I look at it. He would not have killed himself, not that early in the game. He doesn’t appear to have the personality to reflect on his deeds enough to enter any of the stages of grief and would seek only to escape – after all he is an escapist.
Dr D. often wins the internet often. Oh and yeah Dr. D the roads thingy – I have often thought for many years how great areas of Australia are made up of ancient and nutrient/minerally deficient soils. Then roads come along made up of oil and more importantly newer volcanics in the form of crushed up basalt.
Give nature a couple of decades and the water that naturally runs to the side of the non porous road (water collectors) will mix with the plant action just gagging for the moisture under roads as well and then throw in the fertility and you will end up with wildlife corridors.I want you to do it without the straight-jacket, You got the fire in the belly Ilargi,don’t get burn’t out by it. But don’t you dare stop finding this news! With what has happened with Assange I already feel that the media landscape is doomed – like forests and alluvial soils.
You gotta hang in there but just don’t push yourself too hard. Julian would thank you for it.
No pressure though ha ha…
