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  • in reply to: Attack on Red Blood Cells #89339
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    Ok. Nice to have this all together.

    C19 n the blood messes with RBCs. It’s the C19 spikes that enable this.

    The vaccine causes just the spikes to be made. The spikes have no viral payload, can’t “infect,” but they will still bind. I watched part of the stew peters video posted yesterday, where the PhD “natural doctor” who likes squinting at blood through an optical microscope expressed her realization that after vaccination the blood under the microscope looked different. (I also noticed that the woman’s makeup looked like it had been carefully done by a paid makeup artist. She looked like doll. Did she pay someone to do that prior to the interview, or does she do it herself every day? Is she very vain? Or very insecure, needing a makeup mask?). Perhaps there is a relation to what she is seeing and what Chooch is describing here?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 5 2021 #89295
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    I couldn’t keep this to myself

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    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 5 2021 #89255
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    Chooch: “ But here is the thing, what if ADE is not a thing and nobody starts melting in their footprint like WTC7. In the limit, as more and more unvaccinated people that have had Covid get jabbed will the efficacy numbers start to inflect making boosters look like they are improving things. I know, Its really natural immunity that’s the driver but the data will be used to give credit to the jab.”

    I, too, have considered that eventually everyone will have natural immunity, jab or no jab. Still early to judge on ADE, but the numbers are suggesting that it bears further investigation. Regardless, the jabs wreak havoc on the immune system, doing much more than just ramping up spike antibody production. I’m aware of three young individuals with cancers post jab, one in my social circle, two in a social circle 2 people removed from me. The control group must hold. If this narrative doesn’t fall apart soon, the unvaccinated are going to need to create an underground economy in order to survive.

    in reply to: Normalcy Migration #89218
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    Boogaloo
    << Decentralization is the only antidote to totalitarianism>>
    I couldn’t agree more.

    @ John Day
    When the fancy takes me, I’ll come visit Texas. No idea when.
    Drove through the TX panhandle on long trip with my family when I was 12. It was nighttime, pouring rain, lightning streaking out across the sky. Fantastic!

    in reply to: Normalcy Migration #89201
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    The AZ Legislature tacked a ban on mask mandates at schools into a funding bill.

    My daughter’s school district decided to follow the recommendations of the CDC rather than AZ law, and said that all must mask, but allowed parents to opt students out of the mandate. (Which I could not do because my ex is in the Covidian Cult and we have joint legal decision making — can’t do anything unless we both agree.)

    Last week, a judge ruled the AZ Legislature ban on school mask mandates unconstitutional — not because the AZ Legislature can’t make a law regarding masks in schools, but because the AZ Legislature didn’t follow AZ law in the bill as it was written.

    from https://www.npr.org/2021/09/27/1041044436/just-before-taking-effect-arizonas-school-mask-mandate-ban-ruled-unconstitutiona
    <<Cooper [the judge] cited two rules in the Arizona Constitution to support her ruling. One states that a bill can only tackle one thing, or one single subject, at a time. When it comes to the budget, the subject is clearly supposed to be how to spend taxpayer dollars, Cooper wrote. Another constitutional rule requires bills to be given a title that accurately reflects the content of the bill.

    <<In four budget bills, Republican state lawmakers violated at least one, or in one case, both of those rules, Cooper wrote.

    <<That one case included what Cooper described as an “array of provisions are in no way related to nor connected with one another or to an identifiable ‘budget procedure.’ ”

    <<The 55-page Senate bill included policies that stripped the Democratic secretary of state of the authority to defend, or choose not to defend, Arizona election law; a broad preemption of local COVID-19 mitigation requirements for private businesses; a special committee to receive reports from a widely criticized, GOP-led review of the 2020 election in Maricopa County; and time limits on a governor’s declaration of a public health emergency.

    <<“The bill is classic logrolling – a medley of special interests cobbled together to force a vote for all or none,” Cooper wrote.

    <<She rejected arguments from the state’s attorney, who said the legislature has broad authority to interpret what policies fit under the title of a bill and what qualifies as the “single subject” a bill can deal with.>>

    *sigh*
    I wish the lawmakers would just write and pass the bills. We need much of what was in those bills.

    In the meantime, my daughter’s school district has decided that staff, teachers, and students may no longer opt out of masks indoors, unless they have a specific disability. I’m glad my kids are teens, and not so young — I don’t think that the masks are as damaging to teens. My sister is sending her kids to a private school to avoid the masks (she is using home school scholarship money to do it.)

    The school district has decided that only people with certain disabilities are now able to opt out of wearing masks.

    <<While many WESD students, teachers and staff are currently wearing their face masks daily, the Governing Board reiterated the importance of universal mask wearing for the safety of the students, most of whom are not eligible for the vaccine at this time. Additionally, according to the Maricopa County Department of Public Health, if students are all wearing masks, fewer must quarantine.>>

    They don’t mention the judge’s ruling last week. Instead, they want us to presume that it is so that fewer students must quarantine. But, seriously, I doubt that has *anything* to do with it — my daugher tells me that most of the students didn’t get opted out and are wearing masks. And most of the students wear them improperly. I’m getting so tired of this “pandemic theater.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 4 2021 #89165
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    I’m reading “how to hide an empire: a history of the greater United States”

    This quote seems relevant to what is going on today:

    Estimates for Native American population prior to arrival of European settlers varies from 720,000 to 15 million, while most estimates are in the 5 million range.

    By 1800, the indigenous population was closer to a half million, having endured what may have been a 90 percent decline.

    Also accomplished with “germs.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 4 2021 #89163
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    Many narratives simply emerge without pushing.
    propaganda and advertising require pushing, otherwise they would be outcompeted into irrelevance

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 3 2021 #89112
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    If there are no grocery stores around with less than 100 employees…then it is time to start a food-coop.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 2 2021 #89047
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    @ VP if your travels bring you to/thru AZ, let me know, would enjoy chatting with you + fmly.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 2 2021 #89046
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    “Some medical studies for ivermectin contain fraud” DOES NOT EQUAL “all medical studies for ivermectin contain fraud”

    CDC cites several documents including medical studies in its guidance that school children be masked. Anyone who wants to take the time can follow CDC’s references and read the studies. Steve Petty did that in a series of videos. The medical study results were interesting, however, none of them found that masks made a measurable difference. The vast majority of the studies never even studied mask wearing alone, and only one contained a unmasked control group (schools in FL.) CDC is basing its guidance on…misty nothingness, on flim-flam.

    Uttar Pradesh and Peru data is very clear.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 2 2021 #89031
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    Conundrums of the unvaxxed:
    Any ideas on how to address the problem of vax mandated for biz with 100+ employees? The best option would be to simply not shop at those businesses. However, when living in a large metropolis, in many sectors of the economy there *are* no businesses with less than 100 employees. I know of no grocery stores in a 50 mile radius that aren’t part of a chain. Sure, there is a farmer’s market a few miles away for a few hours on Saturday morning, but there are many food sectors not covered by the farmers market. (Nobody local has avocados….). Wear a pin that says “solidarity with the unvaxxed” while shopping? I know that the next step will be disallowing the unvaxxed from entry. If (when) that happens, do I continue to patronize the chain stores through pickup? (Will I not be able to select my own avocados?). Would the unvaxxed even be allowed at the outdoor farmers market at a public park? It’s fine for me to choose not to patronize such stores, limit the foods I eat to those produced locally, etc., but I have three teens that are picky eaters, and their dad wants them vaxxed.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 2 2021 #89023
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    “ A pre-print study that overstated the risk of contracting myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination was retracted due to a miscalculation – but not before it featured in social media posts questioning vaccine safety”

    That is very good. That means that outside of the circles of the FDA, CDC, WHO, etc., where the Covid narrative is being pushed, that science is still functioning. That is why medical studies undergo peer review. That is why they are labeled “preprint” before peer review. If anyone isn’t aware of the significance of peer review, then that person is ignorant. Ignorance happens.

    Of course, for the FDA, CDC, etc., if they discover that they made a mistake (oops! People believe they had Covid from a PCR test cranked up to 35+, but didn’t really, and have no natural immunity!), instead of owning their mistake, suggesting all such cases get antibody testing to verify whether or not they achieved immunity, they sweep it under the rug and demand that all get vaccinated.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 1 2021 #88995
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    “ It wasn’t that the prophecy was wrong. Instead, the followers believed they had been so right that the cult had actually saved the world. Such contortions are a survival mechanism when living inside a worldview that runs up against reality.”

    Hence the need for the scientific method. Which is why when there is doubt about the pandemic, I tend to read medical studies. Which is why I find it troubling that the CDC’s rhetoric doesn’t acknowledge the medical studies…and instead persists in logical contortions.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 1 2021 #88993
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    Another older friend and his wife are getting the third jab tomorrow evening. He told me: “you’ll be glad to know [wife] and I are getting our booster’s tomorrow.”
    <pregnant pause>
    I responded: “Actually, I’m not. But…”. I shrugged my shoulders, feeling powerless to change the inevitable.
    A moment later he confided that he suspected that the truth was somewhere in the middle of the dominant narrative and what
    I believe. (I’ve shared enough over the past months that he has some ideas of my views.). I Said nothing…I wasn’t in the mood just then for any verbal sparring.

    ~~~~

    Yesterday, another older friend explained that a teacher of some upcoming classes backed out of teaching them, and could I sub them? I said that I could. She the explained that she had hoped that the classes would be enough for me to get vaccinated, so that I could teach in person, rather than in zoom. I considered the conditions under which I’d get vaccinated. I found one: if my child’s life were in the balance. I would get jabbed to prevent harm to my child.

    ~~~~~

    I watched the Chris Sky video posted in the comments yesterday. I was both awed and concerned. THAT is populism. The man is a natural populist. He is like a preacher, preaching fire and brimstone and salvation to the crowd. I recognize that his rhetoric and style is needed right now, to galvanize people to action. At the same time, I wonder: did Robespierre speak like that?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 1 2021 #88992
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    I enjoyed this: The Big Lie – How to Enslave the World, Academy of Ideas


    This:
    People were inspired to feel a genuine sense of solidarity with the young musicians and they came to realize that not standing up for the freedom of others, regardless of how remote their means of creativity or their attitude to life, meant surrendering one’s own freedom.
    Vaclav Havel

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 1 2021 #88963
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    Oh, but TDK…that would presume that we champion cooperation.
    Cooperation = bad (despite what the kindergarten teacher said)
    Competition = very, very good.

    In actuality, healthy humans practice both. Cooperation has lead to all sorts of human accomplishment. Competition does often give people an extra incentive, an edge — but too much leads to tragedy (especially when all cooperation is abandoned). Which is probably why humans created sports and games — to harness our competitive spirit so that it could benefit humanity rather than lead to death, despair, and pain.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 30 2021 #88920
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    @ boogaloo – I’ve thought the same about the public losing faith in all vaccines as a result of this botched Covid vax rollout.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 30 2021 #88919
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    @ John Day
    I understand why you choose not to fight it.
    There are multiple ways to face what is going on and work to undermine the totalitarianism.
    We need legal battles…we also need other means to address it as well.
    I trust that spirituality will find the best way for you to respond.
    Sometimes fighting becomes a wasteful end to itself, that serves no purpose.
    Sometimes we fight, because we must and it is the only viable option open to us.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 29 2021 #88780
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    Thanks to Doc Robinson the other day for adding to my understanding of vaccine recipients shedding the spike protein — it was found in the saliva of injected mice.

    Here is something else for the medically well-educated. [:)]

    WSJ Article entitled: “Some Vaccines Last a Lifetime. Here’s Why Covid-19 Shots Don’t.”
    (It’s behind a paywall, so I’ve put down several excerpts.)

    The effectiveness depends on the magnitude of the immune response a vaccine induces, how fast the resulting antibodies decay, whether the virus or bacteria tend to mutate, and the location of the infection.

    The threshold of protection is the level of immunity that’s sufficient to keep from getting sick. For every bug, it’s different, and even how it’s determined varies.

    “Basically, it’s levels of antibodies or neutralizing antibodies per milliliter of blood,” said Mark Slifka, a professor at Oregon Health & Science University.

    (T-cells also contribute to protection, but antibodies are easier to measure.)

    Historically, the most effective vaccines have used replicating viruses, which essentially elicit lifelong immunity.

    Non-replicating vaccines and protein-based vaccines (such as the one for tetanus) don’t last as long, but their effectiveness can be enhanced with the addition of an adjuvant—a substance that enhances the magnitude of the response.

    With these diseases, the magnitudes of response to the vaccines combined with the antibodies’ rates of decay produce durable immune responses: Measles antibodies decay slowly. Tetanus antibodies decay more quickly, but the vaccine causes the body to produce far more than it needs, offsetting the decline.

    “We’re fortunate with tetanus, diphtheria, measles and vaccinia,” Dr. Slifka said. “We have identified what the threshold of protection is. You track antibody decline over time, and if you know the threshold of protection, you can calculate durability of protection. With Covid, we don’t know.”

    The information in this article seems misleading to me, but I want to know if that is because (a) it is oversimplifying, (b) it is ignoring key aspects of the immune process, and/or (c) is deliberately misleading the readers.

    – It is my understanding that *most vaccines* motivate the adaptive immune system, which includes specific antibody producing memory B cells taking up residence in the bone marrow to produce specific antibodies “on demand” as well as memory T cells. The article gives a nod to memory T cells, which I do understand as being harder to detect.
    – I *think* that the vaccine adjuvants are supposed to help get the adaptive immune system motivated to create “memory” cells??
    – This article suggests that antibodies instigated by vaccines simply wane over time, implying that there is no function of memory B cells in the bone marrow that can quickly “ramp up” production should the need arise.
    – I have a vague understanding that some memory B cells in the bone marrow are “for life,” but that others may not be life-long. Is this accurate? Or is there a situation where some memory B cells simply don’t take up residence in the bone marrow, and therefore fade out over time, meaning that the antibodies that they code for will eventually not be a large enough response to combat a particular invader? (Implying that memory B cells in bone marrow are generally “for life.” Possibly that memory B cells in bone marrow are there because it took a great deal of effort from the adaptive immune system to rout out the invader, and when it takes less effort, they don’t bother to migrate to the bone marrow?)
    – I remember an article or two about six months ago studying natural immunity, and finding that there is a durable “memory” response, — i.e. covid infection generally causes memory T cells to be formed, and memory B cells to migrate to the bone marrow, providing “life long” immunity — and I remember a sentence supposing that this should be the same for vaccine recipients. However, I have seen no medical studies on whether or not the covid vaccines are producing memory B cells that are confirmed to take up residence in the bone marrow, and I remember nothing about memory T cells to covid spike protein being measured post vaccination (in the covid naive) either. Is this a major failure of the vaccine? — failing to create any sort of durable immune response?
    – Perhaps those who have foisted this vaccine upon us knew (through animal studies of similar vaccines) that these vaccines would not create memory B cells residing in the bone marrow, and/or memory T cells to the spike protein, and THAT is why no medical studies to see if this happens have been commissioned and published?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 29 2021 #88778
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 29 2021 #88772
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    Dr D
    Nice rant. 🙂
    <<All of them say, “Prepare.” All say, “Self-sufficiency.” All say “You’re on your own, the Federal level can’t help you” >>

    May i add…
    It isn’t “self” sufficiency alone. It is in families, who plan together to weather storms that would be daunting to individuals. It is communities — groups of friends, neighbors, churches, clubs, etc. — who voluntarily come together and plan how to meet the needs of individuals and families that they cannot meet themselves — like setting up a swapmeet or farmers market, etc. it is when these groups coordinate together for common goals. It is all of the pent up organization that comes from the bottom up, and laterally across — and NOT top-down. It tends to be messy and organic, but just like the natural world, often serves multiple purposes at once — filling a stated need and simultaneously filling the need for human companionship and interaction. This type of organizing works best when each individual and family work towards self-sufficiency, and are willing to share/barter their surplus things and energy with those in their community, as well as receive the help of others when they struggle to meet their own needs. This is humanity—the part of humanity that I revere and love.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 29 2021 #88768
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    @ Veracious Poet
    “ The psychopaths have won, the innocent will be destroyed”

    I *know* that feeling. I felt it so many times from 2017 – 2020 when my ex was trying to remove the children from me completely, based on lies he had spread to the children’s behavioral health staff, that they had dutifully recorded in their notes. I lived with the bastard siblings of psychopathy for nearly 12 years (ex is very likely borderline/narcissistic personality disorder), and still have to deal with it from afar (to whit: the family court case). Right now, I’m working on the bankruptcy to address the debt I incurred to fight that legal battle.

    But…I won. It wasn’t glorious. And the children still live with him half the time. The innocents were not destroyed — but they are somewhat jaded and savvy. They are less innocent. And that is okay. (Life is not about remaining innocent.)

    This is what needs to happen in the world. The psychopaths are just getting started. They planned well — just like my ex did when he started spreading those lies, and the behavioral health staff violated several laws when they communicated with his girlfriend without authorization, and didn’t tell me what was going on (I had final decision-making at the time.). But the fight is just getting started. Yes, we are behind the 8 ball. The sooner we face this head on, turn around the narrative, the better. It won’t be a walk in the park. The sooner we face the issues, the milder the ultimate outcome will be.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 28 2021 #88706
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    The 80 million donated doses…am I remembering correctly that they are Pfizer? It just seems that us the perfect way to get the “comirnaty” doses out of the States — where Pfizer/Biontech would be financially liable for damages — and keep the Pfizer EUA doses in the States so that we can mandate the vaxxes with no liability anywhere.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 27 2021 #88305
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    Spike protein shedding from the vaccinated

    This is a topic that I’d like to know more about. I’ve done some searches on various search engines, and can only find one document, ironically, the documenting outlining the protocol for Pfizer’s clinical study of the vaccine!:
    https://media.tghn.org/medialibrary/2020/11/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol_Nov2020_Pfizer_BioNTech.pdf

    PF-07302048 (BNT162 RNA-Based COVID-19 Vaccines)
    Protocol C4591001

    Page 69
    Additional information regarding the EDP may be requested by the sponsor. Further
    follow-up of birth outcomes will be handled on a case-by-case basis (eg, follow-up on
    preterm infants to identify developmental delays). In the case of paternal exposure, the
    investigator will provide the participant with the Pregnant Partner Release of Information
    Form to deliver to his partner. The investigator must document in the source documents that
    the participant was given the Pregnant Partner Release of Information Form to provide to his
    partner.
    8.3.5.2. Exposure During Breastfeeding
    An exposure during breastfeeding occurs if:
    • A female participant is found to be breastfeeding while receiving or after
    discontinuing study intervention.
    • A female is found to be breastfeeding while being exposed or having been exposed to
    study intervention (ie, environmental exposure). An example of environmental
    exposure during breastfeeding is a female family member or healthcare provider who
    reports that she is breastfeeding after having been exposed to the study intervention
    by inhalation or skin contact.

    I had an odd, mild headache for 3 days that didn’t respond well to Tylenol nor ibuprofen following spending 3 hours in a house in close proximity to someone that had received dose 3 of Moderna vaccine two or three days prior. I’d like to know if this sort of a symptom from exposure to the recently vaccinated is common? It could be an immune reaction on my part — I already survived a full covid infection. (Ha-ha, maybe it boosted/updated my anti-covid antibodies.)

    When I try to search this out, I mostly find a lot of articles debunking “vaccine shedding” from the covid vaccines — of course, they only mention that “the covid virus” cannot be shed, or that the “vaccine components” (i.e. the nanoparticles) cannot be shed, ignoring the elephant in the room that was suspected in the Pfizer clinical study. (Although, I’ve seen nothing that suggests that the lipid nanoparticles *can’t* be shed, however, I agree that this is less likely, since they are more likely to be rapidly taken up by the body’s cells rather than expelled through the lungs or pores. Got to wonder what *does* happen to those lipid nanoparticles with the stabilized pseudo-uridine…sure, the hijacked cells get destroyed by the immune system…but does the mRNA get destroyed in the process? Or just released somehow?)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 27 2021 #88301
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    Mr house “s he says “well i don’t see why not, its such a simple thing”, which got me thinking, to these people that is all it is. A simple thing.”
    Yes, that is how my friends (except the one with myocarditis) above age 60 see it as well. “It’s just a shot, and then you have no restrictions. I took it and I am fine.” ….says the woman who had a mini-stroke, micro-clots, and high-blood pressure 5 months later which she in no way possible saw as linked to the vaccine.

    Userzeroid “What has wikileaks achieved thus far? How many people have been held accountable for collateral murder? ”

    TRK “ i live in a dumbveloped country.” lmao

    Of course, Wikileaks is just a journalistic endeavor – it disseminates information. It isn’t Wikileaks responsibility to *do* anything beyond share information. Why has nothing been done about “collateral murder”? Because we the sheeple are too busy making a living, watching TV (or it’s equivalent,) pulled into the political left/right dichotomy to come together and hold our political leaders and institutions accountable. We don’t know how to act together. We are so mesmerized by one-to-many communication that we don’t communicate effectively. In most cases, our education was so stultifying that many (like my 15 year old son, whom I was helping with a writing assignment yesterday evening) experience anxiety at reading anything that requires effort to understand, and are not accustomed to using mental effort and discipline to solve problem, or well versed in communicating complex ideas to others.

    It isn’t that folks *cannot* do these things…but they have never needed to do them. They lack the mental discipline…the neural pathways for doing them have atrophied from lack of use…or were pruned long ago and would need to be recreated. I think about what happens when I teach a new concept to a piano student, and the student struggles because the neural pathways need to be forged, used, and strengthened. This process requires real effort— not physical effort, but mental effort.

    Perhaps, as the narrative comes crashing down around the pandemic, enough folks will realize and feel the need to learn these skills. One can hope.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 27 2021 #88278
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    Polder Dweller “ rather they’re hoping and praying that a human Marek’s disease will soon come into existence.”
    If that is the case, then getting natural immunity *now* is ideal. The problem that arises is for the next generation — only truly viable kids may be from the naturally immune, facing high mortality from Marek-like Franken-Covid or death by many cuts from the vaccine, that will surely knock them off before adulthood. Terrifying thought. I’ve seen too many unvaccinated chicks die from Marek’s disease.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 27 2021 #88274
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    “ Especially given that the overwhelming majority of the political world claims to support vaccinations.”
    Um…seriously? Because governments, who are heavily biased towards big business, support vaccination? And there is the silent admission that in *non-political* parts of the world there are majorities that do not support Covid vaccination. Telling that it is the “political” that grants this support, not the “medical world.” Guess it’s hard to claim the support of the medical world when so many medical providers and carers refuse the jab.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 26 2021 #88209
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    @ TAE Summary…love it!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 26 2021 #88198
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    Maricopa County, AZ (Phoenix area) audit results

    Democracynow.org reports about 255 fewer votes for Trump, 99 more for Biden.
    (Apologies, don’t have link. Was sent to me via fb msgr, fb obscured link…and, weirdly, I can’t find it on DN website.)

    https://rumble.com/vmye2m-ariz.-audit-results-released-friday.html

    One America News Network goes further…
    The results that democracynow reported were of the hand count of all ballots originally counted. The hand count revealed that the original vote tally was essentially accurate.
    Democracynow didn’t bother mentioning the discrepancies found:
    255,000 early votes did not have an early vote record (not precisely sure what this means)
    23,000 early ballots from individuals who had moved out of Maricopa county (need more info on exactly how this is defined. A lot if Maricopa county residents live part time somewhere else, but most would be back in the county on voting day because weather is pleasant in November. Since I don’t do this I’m unsure of how the law precisely applies.)
    23,000 voters cast double votes (can’t help but wonder if reporter got her notes confounded on camera, b/c this is the same as the number above)
    9,000 more early votes received than mailed out
    Voting machines were connected to the internet.

    This suggests fraud, and these results are being given to AZ AG to investigate.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 26 2021 #88197
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    Pandemic babies of vaxxed parents — *this* will not be able to be kept under wraps. The impact will be visceral. Need more evidence. There will be.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 26 2021 #88194
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    Stephen Kirsch referenced gladiators in article posted here today. I suspect he may know the identity of “Spartacus.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 26 2021 #88193
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    UpstateNY: “ I’ll take support from BLM against vaccine mandates, hypocritical though it may be”

    Agreed. Went to the anti mandate rally in Phoenix on Friday. Chatted with a lot of like-minded people, which was pleasant. The home made signs were wonderful. My guess was that there were 1500-2000 people there. There were lots of mothers with their children present. Rally was put on by several groups, but seemed to have been mostly co-opted by political wannabes — 3rd party candidates who felt that it was their *right* to speak to those assembled. (One, a governor candidate, nearly had a hissy fit onstage when she got heckled.). I’m suggesting to those in the private FB group that I joined that we try a march, not just a rally, and get people to speak who are injured by the vaccine, have loved ones so injured, medical staff who have lost jobs, etc….and not just egocentric political wannabes trying to use the rally to better their political future.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 26 2021 #88190
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    Spent an hour yesterday on the phone with a client, ostensibly helping her to select a color laser multifunction printer. She couldn’t understand why there was no way for her to get such a printer for less than $500 in two days or less. I found myself explaining to her that there are none in the Amazon warehouses in a thousand mile radius, and none in local stores either. There are supply shortages. I finally suggested she pick up a cheap printer locally at a store with a generous return policy, to use until one that had all of the requisite features could be shipped to her, since she and her college age daughter could not countenance going to kinkos to get things printed.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 24 2021 #88038
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    Re Oroboros
    “ Do human mothers do this when ‘they’ come to vax their baby???”

    That is where the letter came from. My daughter witnessed me pounding the steering wheel of the car exclaiming how I had chosen to devote a huge part of my life, my love, my energy in raising my kids and no one was going to inject them with something that could/would damage their health, their well-being, their life. I almost never cuss, and not in front of my kids. I cussed.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 24 2021 #88007
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    I found out yesterday that my daughter’s homeroom teacher has been propagandizing the students to get the vaccine, and to pressure their parents to allow it. Had to write to the principal and assistant principal this morning:

    It came to my attention yesterday that my daughter’s homeroom teacher, Ms. Vxxxx, has been propagandizing the students to get the Covid vaccination. She specifically directed the students to put pressure on their parents to get the students vaccinated.

    This is intolerable.

    As a parent, it is MY responsibility and MY right to make medical decisions for MY child. The teacher is not there to tell the child what medical procedures to get done, nor to use the child to influence the parent about medical procedures for the child.

    As it is, there is also NO FDA APPROVED VACCINE for the age groups of the children at xxxx School. That means that any covid vaccines are experimental for children ages 12-15. It is completely inappropriate — AND AGAINST THE NUREMBERG CODE AND AGAINST STATE AND FEDERAL LAW for anyone to be pressured or coerced to undergo an experimental medical procedure. A child cannot give consent — therefore, it is inappropriate to have this discussion with a child.

    Additionally, are you familiar with what has happened to Maddie de Garay? She was12 years old when she participated in the Pfizer clinical trials for children ages 12-15. She is now paralyzed from the waist down, has a catheter, cannot eat and has a feeding tube. All this show-balled into existence immediately following her second Pfizer vaccination as a part of the clinical trial. If you are not familiar with this story, as someone who works with children in this age range, I advise you to become familiar with it.

    Kindly do not inform the teacher which student’s parent sent this email. I do not want my child discriminated against for my views.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 23 2021 #87949
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    https://www.facinghistory.org/holocaust-and-human-behavior/chapter-5/wave-discrimination

    “Restoring” Germany’s Civil Service), a wave of discriminatory actions were taken across Germany in order to “purify Germany of the Jewish spirit” after the Nazis took power. According to historian Alon Confino, the Nazis and other Germans made 1,448 laws, policies, and decrees designed to remove Jews from the country’s political, economic, and cultural life between January 31, 1933, and August 31, 1939. In 1933 alone, 316 anti-Jewish measures were taken in Germany by the national, state, regional, and local governments as well as by civic associations throughout the country. The following is a partial list of the anti-Jewish laws, policies, and decrees made in 1933.

    Berlin: Jewish physicians are excluded from the list of doctors approved to receive patients under welfare and health insurance plans.
    Prussia: Jewish judges and lawyers working at courts are immediately removed from office; the percentage of licensed Jewish lawyers should be equal to the percentage of Jews in the population; Jewish lawyers cannot represent the state.
    Cologne: Jews cannot use the city’s sports facilities.
    Frankfurt: Jews must submit their passports for verification.
    Cologne: Jews cannot be employed in the city public administration.
    The German Boxing Association expels its Jewish members and will not work with Jewish entrepreneurs to organize events.
    The Law for the Reestablishment of the Professional Civil Service removes Jews from government service.
    The Law on the Admission to the Legal Profession forbids the admission of Jews to the bar.
    The Law Against Overcrowding in Schools and Universities limits the number of Jewish students in public schools.
    Bavaria: Jews cannot be admitted to medical school.
    Palatinate: Jews who are arrested for political reasons can be released from jail only when one of their guarantors or a physician who attests to their poor health will replace them.
    Baden: Yiddish cannot be spoken in the cattle markets.
    The Law on Editors bans Jews from editorial posts.
    When sending a telegram by phone, it is prohibited to use Jewish names for spelling.
    Zweibrücken: Jewish businesses are forbidden to participate in the next annual market.
    Jews cannot own land sold by peasants.
    District of Bütow: Peasants are prohibited from selling their products to Jewish merchants.
    The following organizations expel their Jewish members: German teachers’ associations, gymnastic and sports associations, the Association of German Blind Academics, the German Chess League, the Reich League of German Authors, and singing associations.
    Jewish newspapers from abroad are prohibited.
    Jewish students must have a yellow card instead of the regular brown student card.
    Jews are prohibited from practicing pharmaceutics.
    Jews are prohibited from visiting the following beaches: Berlin-Wannsee, Fulda, Beuthen, Speyer, and others.
    Jews cannot be part of the lottery sector.
    Jews cannot be jockeys.
    The mentioning of Jewish holidays in official and business calendars is prohibited.
    Jewish businesses are prohibited from displaying Christian symbols at Christmas.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 23 2021 #87944
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    The noose tightens.
    My daughter and I love Broadway musicals. My friend and client had no one to go to one with, so she invited us a month ago for a performance in late October. Today she was notified that vaccinatuon is required to attend for age 12 and up, exceptions only made for those with medical or religious exemptions.

    I can’t risk my life and health for a play. Maybe I can get an exemption — it was going to be right before my daughter’s birthday.

    I now know exactly what the Jews felt like as Nazism gathered steam.

    My slogan for tomorrow’s rally: It’s not SCIENCE, it’s COMPLIANCE.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 23 2021 #87915
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Germ: << the military works closely with video games developers to train kids to “pull the trigger”.>>
    Reminds me of Ender’s Game

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 23 2021 #87910
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @ Saul Goodman
    If you have to be jabbed there are some medicine regimens that you can follow to attempt to minimize the damage from the spike protein to the body.
    Pfizer has less mRNA than Moderna.
    If you are close to the southern border there are vaccines there that do not cause the body to create spike protein — find out if those would be acceptable to your employer, and take a little trip if necessary.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 23 2021 #87909
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Mr House: “ Has anyone read about the 600 dollar transaction limit that banks must report to the IRS that is part of the new “infrastructure” bill?”

    Yes, thinking about shifting all of my local transactions to cash, just to help keep cash alive.

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