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Participant“The mRNA Vaccines Are Extraordinary, but Novavax Is Even Better”
It’s sarcasm.
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ParticipantGetting their ducks in a row.
On the news this evening was a report that a lot of the double-jabbed in Holland who are catching Covid have weak immune systems, nothing to do with the vaccines, mind you, they just have weak systems due to cancer treatments, co-morbidities or born with plain bad luck. There are 100,000s of them. Just jab ‘em more often, that’ll fix it.
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ParticipantHas this Stew Peters interview with Zev Zelenko been posted before? I don’t remember seeing it. Anyway highly recommended, Zelenko is a man with real heart. There’s advice to keep yourself and your family healthy whether jabbed or unjabbed. Take a look:
https://rumble.com/vl4u7t-dr.-zev-zelenko-slays-globalists-exposes-global-genocidal-event.html
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ParticipantHere in NL 69% are vaxxed according to OWID. The government has reported that there are still 1.8M people eligible to get the jab. That’s a bit over 10% of the population (only!) So a break for freedom unfortunately isn’t going to come from us. So I put my hope in France and the US as both countries have a strong connection with the idea of freedom. If the economic situation in France continues to worsen due to staff shortages, that could possibly dislodge MacWrong, let’s hope so.
The other way out of this mess is much less palatable. It’s when the hidden side effects of the vaccines become too obvious to ignore. ADE looks like a real possibility for this autumn/winter, then there’s cancers, heart and other organ problems, impaired immune systems resulting in more diseases and further down the line, with the lipid nanoparticles crossing the blood-brain barrier, the onset of ALS, Parkinson’s and mad cow disease. According to Dr Richard Fleming, this has been seen in animal studies and the equivalent period of time in humans is about 1.5 years.
Grim.
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ParticipantAfghanistan: it’s mullah time
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/talibans-mullah-baradar-be-new-afghan-president
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Participant“ Now that no one will trust America ,AT ALL , for a very long time, who do you suppose they will they turn to for help ?”
If things get any worse we’re going to have to ask you to stop helping us.
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ParticipantupstateNYer
The banks here (with the EC behind them, I think) are trying hard to stamp out the use of cash. I was recently informed by my bank that I can now withdraw no more than €12,000 per year in cash without incurring charges. The government is also behind this. If I want to give my daughter some money, I am limited to €6,600 per year before paying tax on it. Obviously, if I give her €10,000 in cash, the tax office won’t know.
Interestingly, the most cashless country in the EU is Sweden where shops, bars and restaurants find it strange or even awkward if you want to pay with cash, and the least cashless? That would be Germany. I know plenty of Germans who stick to cash as much as they can.
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ParticipantAt last Friday’s Covid presser it was announced that from 20 September all public venues (cinemas, theatres, restaurants etc) with space for more than 75 people would be required to show proof of vaccination, recovery from infection within the last six months or a negative test.
The minister for health was asked by a journalist whether it wouldn’t be better if everyone were tested, both vaccinated and unvaccinated alike. The minister replied that that would be better, but that it would remove the incentive to get vaccinated. So it’s clear that health and reducing the chances of infections have nothing to do with the measures being put in place, it’s all about getting jabs into everyone’s arms.
The reason for this, it is becoming apparent, is to be able to roll out the Digital ID Wallet that useful idiot von der Leyen and her team of equally useful (or should that be useless?) idiots have been trying to warm people up to for some time now.
This is next level Orwellian nightmare or is it Revelations?
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Participant@Dr. D.
I posted that same Attali piece a while back. Somebody asked me if I was sure it was genuine so I went searching and found that this was disputed and that, according to many French fact-checking sites, the quote was bogus.
I didn’t give up there though, and eventually found a website where it was said that the original 1981 book did indeed have that passage, but that it had been removed from the later reprint. It’s probably out of print now to allow for some more redactions…
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ParticipantIt’s a bit cute, but worth it to see a pathologist in lab coat and cowboy boots (well hey, he is in Texas) talk about what he’s seeing when doing autopsies of the vaccinated (17 minutes).
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ParticipantYesterday we were treated to the dubious pleasure of watching our PM (Mark Rutte) and his minister for health sidekick, Hugo de Jonge, set out how happy days are very nearly here again. On 20 September the 1.5m anti-social distancing rule will be dropped (not that I’ve noticed anyone practising it for the last couple of months anyway) and on 1 November all other measures including face masks on public transport will also be dropped and the good old normal will be back.
He said all this with his usual grin, most likely because he was thoroughly enjoying telling the nation all these big fat lies without a single awkward question from the assembled “reporters.” Not one “journalist” wanted to know how this could be remotely possible now we know that the vaccines stop neither infection nor transmission. No one was interested in finding out what the government thought about what was happening in Israel seeing as they’re ahead of us by three to four months. There were no questions about adverse events. It was a total farce and the MSM lapped it up.
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Participant“Prices never rise, and people never work together toward a common end that could keep them out of jail. Silliest thought ever. Just ask any robber.”
As Adam Smith himself said in ‘The Wealth of Nations’:
“People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or some contrivance to raise prices.”</em
Good job there are no conspiracy theories.
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Participant@ zerosum
No, it’s about why we cranks fall for “conspiracy theories,” not about the theories themselves.
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ParticipantDeflationista, you can surely do better than that, a trashy thread, an appeal to emotions, poorly argued and devoid of facts or references.
Here, let me help you, I linked to this SAGE article a few days ago, but you’re welcome to it. It has its own problems to be sure, but provided you’re perfectly happy with the official narrative you’ll find that it is much better argued and at least makes some sense.
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Participant“Do you use Word or something like that?”
No, I write directly into the comment box.
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ParticipantLive ADE – final attempt, promise
If it doesn’t work this time then perhaps someone would like to do it for me. The three OWID graphs compare Israel and Palestine for confirmed cases, confirmed deaths and number vaccinated. In the first two graphs a recent uptick is visible for Israel but not for Palestine. This despite or because of the big difference in numbers vaccinated.
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ParticipantSorry, I’m too stupid to get this to work.
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ParticipantLive ADE – Take 3
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Participant2nd try
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ParticipantLive ADE
If, as I have, you’ve been wondering what would have happened if we hadn’t vaccinated anyone, wonder no more:
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=new_cases_smoothed_per_million&hideControls=true&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=PSE~ISR
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ParticipantTerry Jones of Monty Python fame did a series on what life was really like in Europe in the Middle Ages. Peasants, it turns, out were generally remarkably healthy and often survived into their 70s. They had much more free time than we do and taxes were typically 10%. As already said, infant mortality and accidents were a big problem though.
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ParticipantI’m learning, I guessed that was a Matisse before reading the description.
Worse Than The Disease? Reviewing Some Possible Unintended Consequences of The mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19
—S. Seneff, MIT and G. Nigh, Naturopathic Oncology, Immersion Health“ In order to adequately rule out the adverse potentialities described in this paper, we recommend, at a minimum, that the following research and surveillance practices be adopted:
• A national effort to collect detailed data on adverse events associated with the mRNA vaccines with abundant funding allocation, tracked well beyond the first couple of weeks after vaccination.
• Repeated autoantibody testing of the vaccine-recipient population. The autoantibodies tested could be standardized and should be based upon previously documented antibodies and autoantibodies potentially elicited by the spike protein. These include autoantibodies against phospholipids, collagen, actin, thyroperoxidase (TPO), myelin basic protein, tissue transglutaminase, and perhaps others.
• Immunological profiling related to cytokine balance and related biological effects. Tests should include, at a minimum, IL-6, INF-α, D-dimer, fibrinogen, and C-reactive protein.
• Studies comparing populations who were vaccinated with the mRNA vaccines and those who were not to confirm the expected decreased infection rate and milder symptoms of the vaccinated group, while at the same time comparing the rates of various autoimmune diseases and prion diseases in the same two populations.
• Studies to assess whether it is possible for an unvaccinated person to acquire vaccine-specific forms of the spike proteins from a vaccinated person in close proximity.
• In vitro studies to assess whether the mRNA nanoparticles can be taken up by sperm and converted into cDNA plasmids.
• Animal studies to determine whether vaccination shortly before conception can result in offspring carrying spike-protein-encoding plasmids in their tissues, possibly integrated into their genome.
• In vitro studies aimed to better understand the toxicity of the spike protein to the brain, heart, testes, etc”Polder Dweller
ParticipantYou vill own nussink und you vill be heppy.
Is only a slightly veiled way of saying that we’ll all be dead. No possessions (when you’re busy pushing up the daisies) = no worries = happy, right?
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Participant– Are the vaccines safe for pregnant women?
“Only if you’re making a horror flick.”
Dr. V. Important, Erasmus MC, Rotterdam, was just on RTL news saying how necessary it is for pregnant women to get the vaccine. The reason being that if they do get serious Covid then it can be very serious. No numbers, no further supporting info, just extra helpings of fear.
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ParticipantWhat I understand is that in the UK the majority of people are vaccinated with Astra Zeneca and that it results in a much higher quantity of spike proteins and hence increased production of antibodies. This, it is believed, will mean that protection will last longer.
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Participant… the disease was a mere excuse to introduce a slow-working lethal pseudo-vaccine to reduce the global population efficiently and drastically — so that nefarious “elites” could enjoy life (and its immortal transhuman successor state) on a planet uncluttered by billions of human riffraff. That story has seemed pretty preposterous to me.
Kunstler, Greer and Ilargi have all made similar comments to this and I want to believe that it is all greed and incompetence but it continues to bother me as although it seems preposterous or rather is preposterous, there are all these little hints that it might just be true.
Take the response by all western governments (with the exception of Sweden) which was to throw out the existing playbook for how to handle a pandemic (keep life as normal as possible, keep public fear low etc.) and to do the exact opposite, lockdowns, face masks and ramping the fear factor up to 11.
Then there’s the issue of the vaccines being the only way out of this mess, burying the negative side effects and deaths even though orders of magnitude higher than any other vaccine ever. There’s the systematic suppression of all alternative treatments indicating that it’s not about health and the media have all been bought to promulgate the illusion that it is.
There’s the whole divide and conquer thing whereby vaxxed and unvaxxed are set against each other (to what end, we can ask) and then there’s the wholesale destruction of small businesses resulting in the massive transfer of wealth to the ultra rich.
I could go on, but you get the point. I’ll just throw in a curve ball. In 2013 the conservative Cardinal Ratzinger aka Pope Benedict XVI, in an unprecedented move in modern times, stepped down from the Holy See and was replaced by the more modern minded Pope Francis who has said many things to upset traditional Catholics and has even been promoting these experimental “vaccines.” How can he possibly justify this, if he doesn’t know </em that they’re safe, also in the long term, and that they don’t have an effect on fertility and the unborn child? So was Benedict replaced because he wouldn’t do the bidding of whoever is pulling the strings? Preposterous, that’s a step too far, obviously.
As Nosferatu Blair recently said, they have their people in place everywhere. Can we still afford to think that this really can all be explained by greed and incompetence? I don’t know but I’d welcome a good discussion about this.
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ParticipantI’m kind of reluctant to share this because I know a lot of people just can’t handle the idea of homoeopathy. I have had great results with Spiroflor in relieving strained muscles (rub it on the affected muscles before going to bed, your muscles need to relax for it to work) and Calendulan cream for grazes and burns. As I can’t get ivermectin (will be stopped by customs) I see this as a possible alternative. From Greer:
“[George Carey] pointed out (in his book The Chemistry of Human Life) that infectious respiratory diseases of the sort that cause lung inflammation could be treated by regular doses of two of the cell salts, Ferrum phos. 6x and Nat. sulph. 6x, four tablets each four times a day under the tongue, or as often as every fifteen minutes in acute cases. He also pointed out that illnesses that affected the epithelial cells lining the blood vessels, and caused problems with blood clots, could be treated by two others, Calc. sulph 6x and Kali mur. 6x, given with the same dosage and frequency.“ https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/140923.html
The required cell salts can be bought through Amazon and many other places. There are plenty of other brands than just Hylands as well.
Ferrum phos. 6x
Nat. Sulph. 6x
Calc. Sulph. 6x
Kali. Mur. 6xCaveat emptor, I have had no formal medical training, use at your own risk.
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ParticipantNETHERLANDS PRIME MINISTER CAUGHT LYING
Watch as a new Dutch civil servant & politician, Gideon Van Meijeren, skillfully outs his Prime Minister regarding his connection to WEF’s Klaus Schwab, and his approval of the ‘Great Reset.’ Grab some popcorn and enjoy this gem!
https://thehighwire.com/videos/netherlands-prime-minister-caught-lying/
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ParticipantI’m a little nervous sharing this since so many people roll their eyes (or worse) whenever they so much as hear the word ‘homoeopathy.’ If that’s you, scroll to the next comment now.
Personally, I’ve had very good experiences with Spiroflor – excellent for strained muscles, rub on the night before because I’ve found that the muscle needs to relax for the stuff to work, and the next day it’s either fixed or much better – and Calendulan for grazes and burns. Homoeopathic nose sprays have also worked well for me in the past.
This is from JMG, use it or don’t it’s entirely up to you, I haven’t tried it yet, so I have no idea if it works, but since I can’t get ivermectin and my entire family (so I sympathise upstateNYer) is now all vaxxed up, I need to have something just in case.
“George Carey pointed out (in his book The Chemistry of Human Life) that infectious respiratory diseases of the sort that cause lung inflammation could be treated by regular doses of two of the cell salts, Ferrum phos. 6x and Nat. sulph. 6x, four tablets each four times a day under the tongue, or as often as every fifteen minutes in acute cases. He also pointed out that illnesses that affected the epithelial cells lining the blood vessels, and caused problems with blood clots, could be treated by two others, Calc. sulph 6x and Kali mur. 6x, given with the same dosage and frequency.” https://ecosophia.dreamwidth.org/140923.html
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Participant“ So, how could there be an ade?”
I know that dengue is one of the classical examples of a virus associated with ADE following re-infection. It’s what my ex GP friend I wrote about yesterday used to claim that Covid doesn’t have an ADE problem so we don’t need to worry about either the vaccines or booster shots. In which case, why the deuce are doctors like Malone, Fleming, Vanden Bossche and Bhakdi worried about it?
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ParticipantA Story for Our Times
I have a friend (I should probably say ‘had’ but that would somewhat ruin the ending) who is a GP in England. We go way back. Over the last year and a half I have been discussing the pandemic with him. We covered everything, lockdowns, social distancing, masks, where the virus came from, how serious Covid-19 was etc., etc. He always knew best.
With time he grew more aggressive towards me. It reached quite a head last year when I tried to get him to agree that hydroxychloroquine might be useful in the battle against Covid. Paraphrasing, he said something along the lines of “people just want to take a pill and go back to their unhealthy lifestyles. They need to drop the junk food, get some more exercise and take a vaccine which will boost their immune systems.”
I expressed some doubts about that approach but was quickly shouted down by the much more knowledgeable doctor. He said that my training (as an engineer) would mean that I couldn’t possibly understand these difficult medical issues. He sent me a document listing the trials with HCQ and why there was no evidence that it could help and why prescribing HCQ could be dangerous, fatal even.
Temporarily beaten into submission, I pushed the document aside, but articles by Didier Raoult, Zev Zelensky and others kept pointing to positive outcomes with HCQ provided it was given early together with zinc, azithromycin and vitamins D and C. I went back to the document and picked through all the tests. One by one I was able to dismiss them: late intervention; absurdly high doses; bad co-morbidities; and in particular, never any mention of zinc etc. My friend had told me that trials including zinc were covered, but they weren’t. I sent him my marked up version of the document with my findings and received back from him… crickets. That was when I first started to doubt what he said.
Things progressed with me emboldened but still assuming that he really did know better than I did. In December he was involved in the roll out of the first vaccines and I congratulated him on being a part of the solution. He was pleased and, for a while, things thawed between us.
I’d given up trying to persuade him about HCQ, except for pointing out to him that the Lancet had printed a nonsense hit piece about it. He was not amused and became very defensive. Then ivermectin came along and I tried him on that. “What sort of wacky websites are you reading?” he asked me (he’s a strict BBC, CNN, Guardian plus Lancet and BMJ, man), “You’re beginning to sound like one of these crazy conspiracy theorists. I follow Chris Whitty and the discussions on the doctors’ forums, too bad they’re not accessible by you. Anyway the studies on ivermectin are all flawed and inconclusive.”
I sent him more articles and papers on ivermectin but he would never react. Recently, I decided to ask him about the need for booster shots. His reply was straight from the narrative, that just like flu shots you need to keep topping them up. How about ADE, then? That’s not a problem because it’s not a problem with Covid. I said that that didn’t strike me as a good answer. That blew his top. I was reading too many weird websites, falling for the conspiracy theories, I should know better and that I should trust “The Science.” He sent me this SAGE link to help me convince myself that I’m a delusional nutter. I read the opening paragraph where it gave as an example of a C19 conspiracy theory “Is it a bioweapon designed in a Chinese laboratory?” I pointed out to him that that’s not a conspiracy theory, that’s a proven conspiracy fact (OK, I overstated it a bit) and that’s when he blocked me.
So this is where we are, good doctors caught up in some self-referential bubble and unable to handle anything which doesn’t fit the official narrative. I actually think that he is embedded in the system, that he’s been co-opted by the “dark side.” I thought to send him an email saying “At least you won’t be able to say Ich hab’ es nicht gewusst,” but I probably won’t.
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ParticipantMinister De Jonge summoned to stop corona vaccinations immediately.
“The lawyer of the Extra-Parliamentary Commission of Inquiry has today sent a letter to minister of care, Hugo de Jonge, requesting that the vaccination campaign be stopped immediately. Failing that, summary proceedings will be initiated and all evidence will go to the preliminary relief judge.“This concerns more than 2000 reports made to the commission’s vaccination hotline, including 1,137 deaths, and an investigation report that will show that the vaccinations can lead to serious damage to health and death.
“The lawyer points out in a letter to Minister De Jonge that the BPOC2020 receives personal statements from people on a daily basis about deaths and serious side effects after the corona vaccination.
“The lawyer writes that the content of the statements is “extremely worrisome”. “From these statements it follows that after the vaccination, symptoms of paralysis, brain haemorrhages, heart failure and in very many cases even (eventually) deaths occur.” Several relatives have already indicated that they want to proceed with an autopsy via a coroner. The lawyer adds that the vaccines may contain harmful substances that are not listed on the package leaflet.
“Given these developments, I request and, insofar as necessary, I summon you to immediately end your vaccination policy and to take everything necessary to that end,” the lawyer writes in the letter to De Jonge. “At the very least, I request and command you to temporarily suspend your policy.”
“The BPOC2020 encourages all persons to share their experiences with third parties as much as possible and will bring all these facts to the attention of the public, with the aim of warning the people about the risks.
“Unfortunately, the media has chosen to close its eyes to these facts for the time being,” notes the lawyer, who has sent a copy of the letter to RIVM.”
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ParticipantJohn Michael Greer has put his own Covid hypothesis up on his Dreamwidth blog. I find myself agreeing with everything he’s said. He doesn’t buy into the grand conspiracy thing for the simple reason that the level of coordination is just too much to expect from our mentally challenged “leaders.” Instead, greed and incompetence are responsible, he thinks, for how we got into this God awful mess. I take some comfort in that as it gives me hope that there will also be a way out. Nevertheless, the immediate future, as most of us on TAE have been realizing, looks pretty grim.
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ParticipantHeidelberg chief pathologist calls for more autopsies of vaccinated people
“The chief pathologist at the University of Heidelberg, Peter Schirmacher, urges many more autopsies of vaccinated people. In addition to corona deaths, the corpses of people who die in connection with a vaccination would also have to be examined more frequently, said Schirmacher of the German Press Agency in Stuttgart.
“The director of the Pathological Institute in Heidelberg even warns of a high number of unreported cases of vaccination deaths and complains: The pathologists do not notice anything about most of the patients who die after and possibly from a vaccination. However, other scientists disagree with him on this point, as do the Standing Vaccination Commission (Stiko) and the Paul Ehrlich Institute.
“The doctor now wants to get to the bottom of rare, serious side effects of vaccination – such as cerebral vein thrombosis or autoimmune diseases. The problem from his point of view: Vaccinated people usually do not die under clinical observation. “The doctor examining the corpse does not establish a context with the vaccination and certifies a natural death and the patient is buried,” reports Schirmacher. “Or he certifies an unclear type of death and the public prosecutor sees no third-party fault and releases the corpse for burial.”
“In Baden-Württemberg, the pathologists therefore worked with public prosecutors, the police and resident doctors, reports Schirmacher. More than 40 people have already been autopsied who died within two weeks of being vaccinated. Schirmacher assumes that 30 to 40 percent of them died from the vaccination. In his opinion, the frequency of fatal consequences of vaccinations is underestimated – a politically explosive statement in times when the vaccination campaign is losing momentum, the delta variant is spreading rapidly and restrictions on non-vaccinated people are being discussed.
Die Welt (German)
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ParticipantThe next Covid variant could kill up to one in THREE people: SAGE warns
This article in the DM, which came out a few days ago, is clearly intended to soften up the (in this case British) public ahead of a possible mass ADE scenario in the coming autumn/winter. The official story will be that it’s the dangerous new variant they warned everyone about back in the summer.
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Participant“ * Sans Turkey, which is a given anyway.”
I always find it strange that Americans consider Turkey to be in Europe. None us actual Europeans do; Turkey is an Asian country, even if it has a toe-hold in Europe with western Istanbul and the land up to the borders with Bulgaria and Greece.
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Participant“ I’m makin’ one of those red triangles this week to wear with pride”
It’s a good idea but I don’t like the ’U’ as it doesn’t work in other languages (in Dutch it would be ‘O’ and in French’N’) so I think a ‘V’ with a line through it would be better like this: ‘
V‘We thought V was for Vendetta but in fact it’s for Vaccine.
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ParticipantPhoenixvoice, very well said.
Personally, I’m looking for a good reason as to why I should take the vax, but so far I haven’t found any, there only seem to be downsides to them.
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ParticipantI did some ducking and going and found this YouTube video https://youtu.be/vF7ymadMO5c of someone named Michel Salomon who reads out the quote and the suggestion is that it was in an older version of the Verbatim book. Again, I don’t know if that makes it true that the quote was definitely from Attali, it’s a working hypothesis though.
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