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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle December 30 2021 #96575
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    “Dutch goverment wants 3rd jab in January, 2 more in 2022, and then no. 6 in 2023. How many people will comply?”

    Good question. Everyone around me is jabbed. I know people who couldn’t wait to get the booster and there were loads of people going to Germany to get their boosters because the roll-out here was going to take too long. Among the young, though, there seems to be a lot of resistance to getting the next shot. They’ve been lied to and they know it, they were promised they would get their freedoms back and they didn’t, so what’s the point in complying? My own daughters and their boyfriends don’t see any good reason to get boosted. The government is hell bent on getting the vaccine passports/digital ID wallet/social credit system rolled out and they don’t care how many bodies pile up (we’re on 25% excess mortality for the last four or five months and so the total number of excess non-covid dead is now about equal to the official number of covid dead) in order to put that in place.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 29 2021 #96508
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    Been quiet for a while as I was too angry at our duplicitous and deeply corrupt government’s latest measures (hard lockdown while pushing for restricted access for the unjabbed and a jab mandate) to contain the omicold variant. The models used to justify the lockdown were based on ICL’s doom scenarios, even as the data from SA and elsewhere were showing that there was little to fear and our hospitalizations continue to drop.

    Anyway, enough of that. A while back, without much to back me up, I aired the opinion that Pope Francis was fully “in bed” with Schwab and the World Evil Forum. So now here’s an article to support that earlier assertion. My take is that Francis has failed to recognize the devil and is actually helping him in his work.

    The Sinister Convergence of Klaus Schwab’s Great Reset with the Vatican and Liberation Theology: F. William Engdahl

    “ Notably, in 2014 Klaus Schwab extended a personal invitation to Pope Francis to address the Davos meeting. Francis has since written numerous such letters to Schwab and is listed by the World Economic Forum as an Agenda Contributor. In October 2020, the official website of the Davos WEF wrote, “In a striking, 43,000-word-long encyclical published last Sunday, the pope put his stamp on efforts to shape what’s been termed a Great Reset of the global economy in response to the devastation of COVID-19.”

    […]

    In November 2020, Pope Francis declared that a new “social justice” is needed, and that private ownership is not something obvious in Christianity: “Let us build the new social justice and admit that the Christian tradition has never recognized the right to private property as absolute and immovable,” said Francis. He does not elaborate.

    In October, 2020 the pope issued an encyclical letter, Fratelli Tutti, in which he went after private property. He wrote, “Business abilities, which are a gift from God, should always be clearly directed to the development of others and to the elimination of poverty…” He declared, “The right to private property is always accompanied by the primary and prior principle of the subordination of all private property to the universal destination of the earth´s goods, and thus the right of all to their use.”

    This is remarkably similar to what Schwab of the WEF writes in his 2020 book, The Great Reset, where he states, “First and foremost, the post-pandemic era will usher in a period of massive wealth redistribution, from the rich to the poor and from capital to labour.” Schwab claims that the era of free market neoliberalism is over and major Government intervention is needed to enact “sustainable” environmental policies.“

    https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/12/27/the-sinister-convergence-of-klaus-schwabs-great-reset-with-the-vatican-and-liberation-theology-f-william-engdahl/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 13 2021 #95107
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    This is very worrying unless you happen to be Pfizer et al in which case you get not only to sell the world your boosters four times a year, but also AZT or whatever else to prop up people’s failing immune systems.

    “The real-world effectiveness of the Covid-19 injections wains significantly in a short amount of time, but unfortunately for the vaccinated population, rather than the immune system returning to the same state it was prior to vaccination, the immune system performance begins to rapidly decline making it inferior to that of the unvaccinated.

    The fact that the UK Health Security Agency have admitted the fully vaccinated are much less capable of producing N-antibodies following infection also supports this.

    Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome is a condition that is thought to be caused solely by the alleged HIV virus, and it leads to the loss of immune cells and leaves individuals susceptible to other infections and the development of certain types of cancers. In other words, it completely decimates the immune system.

    Therefore, could we be seeing some new form of Covid-19 vaccine induced acquired immunodeficiency syndrome?

    The data certainly suggests so, and that is the real reason they want you to now have a “booster” dose of the Covid-19 vaccine every three months.”

    https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/11/30/booster-every-3-months-to-stop-onset-of-aids/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 11 2021 #94972
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    Dead meat?

    “A man was vaccinated against Covid-19 up to 10 times in one day on behalf of other people, prompting an investigation by the Ministry of Health.”

    It is believed the man, who is understood to have visited several vaccination centres, was paid for the jabs.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/127245863/covid19-man-receives-up-to-10-vaccines-in-one-day

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 11 2021 #94959
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    “In the case of the Covid-19 certificate, everything indicates that the risk of function creep is particularly serious. Because one of the function creep’s possibilities for this device coincides precisely with the agenda of powerful interest groups. Since 2020, these private and state actors have been presenting the implementation of the Covid-19 certificate as a way to create a wallet for digital identity (e-ID). Our research has shown that a maze of governmental and non-governmental entities is in fact piggybacking the crisis.”

    https://www.re-check.ch/wordpress/en/function-creep-covid-19-certificates-summary/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 9 2021 #94781
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    A great day for free speech. Dr White, is a young and principled GP who could not simply stand by and ‘follow orders’ which he could not reconcile with his hippocratic oath to ‘do no harm’. After resigning from his GP post several months ago because he disagreed how Covid patients were being treated, he began to post on social media. He was then, after he ceased working, censured by his professional body, the General Medical Council and put under a legal order not to further post his views. A high court appeal has just ruled that all limitations must be immediately lifted on his inalienable right to free speech.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 9 2021 #94756
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    Dr David E. Martin, COVID Exposed

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 7 2021 #94590
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    Update from John O’Looney (English undertaker).

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 5 2021 #94450
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    Noirette, Doc Robinson, it would be bad if any EU politician called for the scrapping of the Nuremberg Code, but for the president of the commission to do that and, a German, nota bene, is completely unforgivable. She should be dismissed immediately and preferably thrown in jail for a very long time. As long as she remains in power I am 100% anti-EU.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 5 2021 #94433
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    I’m seeing more and more of these posts on social media saying that people are getting a mild case of the sniffles and then suddenly dying. Could that be ADE?

    Then there’s even these crazy newspaper articles saying that someone died but that it wasn’t serious or some such like. Even yesterday there was one saying that 28 people had died in care homes, three of them seriously. That seems to be some kind of weird code for unjabbed. “Hey, yeah, he died but at least it wasn’t serious thanks to him having been vaccinated.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 3 2021 #94308
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    Does Germany’s vaccine mandate violate the Nuremberg Code or not?

    Well, those friendly fact-checking folks at AP have saved you all the bother and says that the mandate doesn’t break the Code.

    “ CLAIM: Germany’s new restrictions for people who have not received the COVID-19 vaccine, and a potential vaccine mandate for all, violate the Nuremberg Code.

    AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The Nuremberg Code, a set of ethical research principles created after World War II in response to atrocities committed by Nazi scientists, concern research involving human subjects, not public health interventions.

    THE FACTS: German Chancellor Angela Merkel announced on Thursday that unvaccinated people in Germany will be barred from nonessential stores, restaurants, and sports and cultural venues, as COVID cases rise across the country. German lawmakers will also consider imposing a vaccine mandate for all.

    Following the announcement, claims quickly spread on Twitter that one or both of the measures violated the Nuremberg Code.

    One tweet, which was posted on Thursday morning and refers to the restrictions for unvaccinated people, states, “Germany returning to its Nazi roots and doing away with the Nuremberg code.”

    “Forced inoculations in violation of the Nuremberg code and a creepy parade to celebrate it. Germany never changes,” read another tweet in response to a news article about a military parade in Merkel’s honor.

    But Germany’s new COVID-19 measures don’t violate the Nuremberg Code, legal and medical ethics experts told The Associated Press.

    The code was designed to protect people from involuntary experiments and abuse. In contrast, Germany’s new restrictions on movement for unvaccinated people is a public health intervention, not an experiment on humans. And the COVID-19 vaccines have already undergone clinical trials and aren’t, at this stage, experimental.

    “The Nuremberg Code was put in place to protect people from being forced to participate in experiments. None of these measures qualify,” Dorit Reiss, a law professor at the University of California, Hastings College of the Law, told the AP. “None of this is forcing people to participate in experiments.”

    https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-803459060082

    Er, yes they are experimental since the current trial phase doesn’t end until 2023. In addition, the clinical trials they underwent were a disaster as the recently released docs from Pfizer show. So, yes, they have been through clinical trials and found to be unfit for purpose.

    Personally, I would have thought that something could only be called a public health intervention if it improved the public’s health, but I suppose that if you’re going to be pedantic about it, making the public’s health worse also qualifies.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 1 2021 #94121
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    If the British are going to jab everyone every three months, how will they be able to tell if the omicron version is less serious? They’ll just say that it’s the jab that’s working so well.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 30 2021 #94040
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    Austria and now Greece, too – surely the unjabbed can bring a class action against the government citing UN, UNESCO, ECHR, Nuremberg Code etc? I can’t see how they could fail to win without exposing massive corruption.

    Füllmich wrote recently that he expects to have his tribunal set up by the end of the year, so that would be timely. Meanwhile the speaker in the Dutch parliament has banned the use of the word ‘tribunal.’ I think it’s because it makes her feel uneasy.

    “ This molecular epidemiology study coupled with structural analysis of the spike protein indicates that the balance between facilitating and neutralizing antibodies in vaccinated people is in favor of neutralization for the Wuhan strain,alpha and beta variants, but not for gamma, delta, lambda and mu. The evolution of SARS-CoV-2 has dramatically affected the ADE/neutralization balance which is nowadays in favor of ADE. Future vaccines should consider these data to design new formulations adapted to SARS-CoV-2 variants and lacking ADE epitopes in the spike protein. ”

    https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1054360/v1

    From what I’ve understood, the GoF research used AI and masssive computing to game out likely mutations of the virus and in particular the spike. So what if the whole point of the mass jabbing programme is to provide the right selection pressure to get the virus to mutate “naturally” into a serious ADE disease – kind of a human Marek’s disease? This would put the manufacturers in the perfect position to sell the world their shots and boosters forever, as without which them will die. Governments can then give the shots free of charge provided you are a good little citizen, with your QR code or biochip, who follows every mandate the government cares to demand of you.

    Following that scenario you will probably quickly own nothing, but be unlikely to be happy.

    Unfortunately, Geert Vanden Bossche seems to be pointing to this scenario being a possibility or even likely:

    “Abs that are still capable of binding to the virus without neutralizing it are at risk of causing Ab-dependent enhancement of disease (ADE). Even though the intrinsic virulence of the virus is unlikely to change (as there is no evidence of immune pressure being placed on virulence genes), the occurrence of ADE would have the same effect because it enhances and accelerates viral pathogenicity. When this happens, we’re likely to generate a situation that resembles the one described for Marek’s disease, although using a different pathway to cause devastating disease (2). Whereas Marek’s virus is so virulent that it breaks through the innate immune defense of the host (poultry) and stays ahead of protective adaptive immunity in unvaccinated chicken, an allosteric SARS- CoV-2 variant would not only break through the innate immune response of vaccinees (due to vaccine- mediated suppression of relevant innate Abs) and resist vaccinal Abs (by bypassing traditional receptor domains within ACE2), but also become more pathogenic due to ADE.”

    https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/mass-vaccination-will-push-sars-cov-2-spike-protein-beyond-omicron

    In this scenario, resistance will not be enough; whether jabbed or unjabbed, everyone will have the choice either to comply or die.

    in reply to: It’s Time To Dump Pfizer #93978
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    EUdraVigilance = EU VAERS System

    According to EudraVigilance the system only catches about 6% of events.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 29 2021 #93965
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    ING Bank links medical data to payment app

    “ ING in Belgium is the first: the bank offers its customers to save their medical data in their payment app. They call it Helena, your digital health platform.

    Handy, right? So you have everything in one place – your vaccination status and your bank account! The only thing that is still missing is that you will only be allowed to pay if your vaccination status is ‘positive’ …

    Arno Wellens wrote a strong article about this alarming development. Because this is not just a harmless product. As Wellens explains, it is the first step towards a standardized ‘digital identity’ for every EU citizen.

    This is not a conspiracy theory: it is laid down in an EU directive to be implemented by all countries. It means that soon all our personal data – medical, financial, social, economic – will be stored in an app, which we will always have with us, to be able to travel, shop, and go out – to go to school, doctor, or hospital – in short, to be able to live.

    Science fiction? Of course, the government promises that the data will not be linked or otherwise misused, but Wellens has – understandably – little confidence in that.”

    https://deanderekrant.nl/nieuws/ing-koppelt-medische-gegevens-aan-betalingsapp-2021-11-27

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 29 2021 #93944
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    Switzerland.

    I sent the Taylor Hudak tweet of Catherine Austin-Fitts talking about the Swiss referendum to a Swiss friend on Saturday. She replied that she did not share that opinion and that she would be voting to extend the vaccine passport system because she wants strict rules. She is terrified of Covid and that’s only reasonable since she has type 1 diabetes, a heart condition and a high BMI (overweight, not obese). However, when I tried, ever so gently, to question the value of the passports in controlling infections as well as the IMO more serious implications of the system as CAF explained, she grew very aggressive and accused me of spreading fake news.

    This kind of interaction is so depressing, there is no chance for reasoned debate anymore.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 28 2021 #93884
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    Lockdown for the “vaccinated!”

    “The well-known French infectious disease specialist Perronne explains: Vaccinated, not unvaccinated, are the real danger – drugs are the much more effective and effective approach.

    Professor Christian Perronne, one of the most renowned French experts on infectious diseases and long-standing government advisor, has long been a dedicated skeptic of Covid 19 vaccination policy – and not just in his home country. With a view to the situation in Israel and Great Britain, Perronne has now publicly called for people vaccinated against Covid-19 to be quarantined and isolated from society; In fact, this would be a “lockdown for vaccinated people”. The provocative demand is a reversal of the previous narrative: Not the unvaccinated, but the vaccinated are dangerous for others. Especially in Israel and Great Britain, where the world’s largest vaccination programs are running, you can also see the most severe Covid cases among vaccinated people in hospitals.”

    https://report24.news/franzoesischer-top-infektiologe-fordert-lockdown-fuer-alle-geimpften/ (German)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 26 2021 #93724
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    The baloney detection skills in this place don’t even seem to exist anymore.”

    People got jabbed and the cases and hospitalizations went down. Baloney detector engaged. Correlation does not prove causation. It was summer, respiratory infections are rare in the summer. Then, when autumn came, the cases and hospitalizations went back up. We were told that the drop in hospitalizations was due to the shots. Baloney detected – jabs didn’t make a difference.

    Here in NL we have the same number of people in the hospitals and in the ICUs as this time last year despite 85% vaccination and the fact that delta is one quarter as dangerous as the variant we had last year. Baloney detector says that proves that the jabs are useless at best.

    Happy?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 26 2021 #93707
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    Deaflad

    The jabs clearly don’t work, even if loads of people can’t seem to get their heads around that inconvenient fact. So what do the jabs do? A large increase in cardiac events perhaps? Footballers dropping dead on the pitch? Excess mortality on the rise? A spike in prion diseases? Many more still births? No, no, you say, all perfectly normal. Go on, I dare you, come up with some evidence that the jabs are somehow, somewhere effective in terms of public health. I’ve looked and drawn a blank so far, perhaps you can help.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 26 2021 #93688
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    Oh no, my daughter is just about to arrive from Schiphol by bus. What do you suggest I do, tell her to go away, do a self test every hour until morning, or perhaps I could just lock her in the shed? In any case, she’s not getting any water from me!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 26 2021 #93644
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    Whitty is the UK’s Fauci.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 25 2021 #93610
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    Early days…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 25 2021 #93609
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    @ Maxwell, Roboto

    I know lots of Germans, in general I get on very well with them and I have several German friends and they are some of the most reliable people I know, so I don’t really want to dump on them, but I was shocked as to how one-sided these colleagues see everything.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 25 2021 #93581
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    “Time for a new vaccine that will target the new vaccine-resistant strain: I wonder how many will fall for this bullshit a second time and get stabbed.”

    I just got off a conference call with five German colleagues, all of them very competent and intelligent engineers. The conversation turned to corona and I was truly shocked; every single one of them has bought the official line and all are looking forward to getting their boosters ASAP. They’re all convinced that it’s only the unjabbed in hospital and ICU. They’re happy to wave their “green pass” at anyone who asks for it. They know nothing about side effects, think the jabs are perfectly safe and think young children should be jabbed too as they’re behind the rise in cases everywhere. I tried to raise some doubts in them about the effectiveness of the jabs – one had even had Covid (with fever) since being jabbed – but they are fully convinced and I couldn’t even dent their beliefs.

    These are Germans who have all put a sticker over the camera on their laptops and all pay with cash as far as possible because they’re worried about privacy and personal security.

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    Finally! Medical Proof the Covid Jab is “Murder”

    “A couple of hours ago Darren Smith, the editor of the excellent The Light Paper, sent me a paper from the medical journal Circulation which proves that the covid-19 jabbing experiment has to stop today. I believe that any doctor or nurse who gives one of the mRNA covid jabs after today will in due course be struck off the appropriate register and arrested.

    The journal Circulation is a well-respected publication. It’s 71-years-old, its articles are peer reviewed and in one survey it was rated the world’s no 1 journal in the cardiac and cardiovascular system category.

    I’m going to quote the final sentence of the abstract which appears at the beginning of the article. This is all I, you – or anyone else – needs to know.

    `We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy and other vascular events following vaccination.’

    That’s it. That’s the death bell for the covid-19 mRNA jabs.

    The endothelium is a layer of cells lining blood vessels and lymphatic vessels. T cells are a type of white cell.

    We always knew these jabs were experimental. My video in December 2020, just under a year ago, warned about these specific risks. I read out a list of possible adverse events published officially by the American Government.

    But now we have the proof of the link.

    The mRNA jab is, remember, known not to stop people catching covid. And it is known not to stop people spreading it. I don’t believe anyone disputes these facts.

    And yet vast numbers of deaths and serious injuries have occurred among people who have been jabbed. Look at the item entitled ‘Updated: how many are the vaccines killing?’ on my websites.

    Now we have the evidence to stop the jabbing programmes.

    In the study quoted in Circulation, a total of 566 patients aged 28 to 97 were tested. They were equally divided among men and women.

    ‘At the time of this report,’ says the author, ‘these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vaccine.’

    At the very least, the use of these jabs must stop now. Immediately, until more long-term tests are done.

    If there were any journalists left in the mainstream media, this news would be lead item on all TV and radio programmes and be on the front pages of all newspapers.

    Thank heavens for free speech platforms such as BNT which enables me to bring you this news.

    I’ve said for a year that this jab was an experiment – certain to kill and injure.

    We’ve always known that to experiment on people without their full consent and understanding – after disclosing all the risks and potential side effects – is a crime.

    Now the evidence exists that must stop this experiment.

    If the covid jab experiment continues after today then we know for absolute sure that this is not a medical treatment, it is a cull.”

    https://vernoncoleman.org/videos/finally-medical-proof-covid-jab-murder

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    Japan crushes Big Pharma with a small yet effective move

    “Japan has said a loud and clear no to big pharma companies’ vaccination campaigns, with a small yet remarkable move. Japan is going to dump repeated vaccination doses for a better and more durable cure- Ivermectin. It is an orally administered, anti-parasitic drug, which has emerged as a viable treatment option for COVID-19 infections.

    Ivermectin was discarded unceremoniously till now, but Japan has demonstrated that the drug can be used as a more effective cure and a permanent substitute for the Coronavirus vaccines produced by big pharmaceutical companies. “

    https://tfiglobalnews.com/2021/11/08/japan-crushes-big-pharma-with-a-small-yet-effective-move/

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    Dr. D, of course both attempts to introduce a ten-day week were made under Napoleon and in the USSR. Needless to say, neither was successful. As for the reason there are exactly seven days in the week, in every culture, beyond being quarter of a lunar month, there’s the matter of the seven visible (to the naked eye) celestial bodies which move against the background of stars.

    Sunday – obvious, day of the Sun;
    Monday – also obvious, day of the Moon;
    Tuesday – French mardi = day of Mars;
    Wednesday – French mercredi = day of Mercury;
    Thursday – French jeudi = day of Jupiter (Jove);
    Friday – French vendredi = day of Venus;
    Saturday – day of Saturn.

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    What is happening in Holland? Well, as pointed out above, it’s all presented in the MSM as those damned anti-vaxxers. Many rioters probably are anti-vax, but that’s not exactly what they’re rioting about. No, the riots are mainly about the introduction of the hated QR-code (vaccine passports).

    Yesterday in de Volkskrant, the chairman of the largest police union explained in no uncertain terms that the riots are a direct result of political mismanagement.

    “Police union chairman furious with government.

    “It is a miracle that there were no serious injuries among the police officers,” Gerrit van de Kamp, chairman of the largest police union ACP, looks back on Friday evening’s explosion of violence in Rotterdam.

    He immediately makes it clear that he does not need words of sympathy from ministers or other political administrators.

    “They don’t do anything! Yes, endlessly going on about fundamental rights, endless talk about hospitals, and for the rest it’s up to the police to solve it. We have been warning for years and years against the radicalization of the protest, people who feel threatened in their freedom and are about to explode. And whaddaya know, the government throws in a few more measures that are not enforceable at all. And the police can handle the misery.”

    “The police must have done it wrong again in Rotterdam. Politicians never do anything wrong.’ Ultimately, Friday night’s aggression will again be dismissed as ‘a serious incident’,” he predicts. “What incident? This does come from somewhere. This is chronic!”

    To a certain extent, Van de Kamp also understands the outburst of pent-up anger. “You’ll just be a youngster who can’t do anything, can’t find a home anywhere. And above all, you should not lose your trust in the government. You are not allowed to go to the pub, you are not allowed to go to football, you will not be allowed anything on New Year’s Eve either.’ said the chairman of the largest police union ACP,

    Van de Kamp sneers about the latter: ‘Of course nothing [no fireworks] will be fired off soon… Get real! The police were already bombarded with heavily illegal stuff yesterday.”

    https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/woedende-politiebondvoorzitter-over-rellen-rotterdam-dit-is-geen-incident-dit-is-chronisch~b32240bf/?s=09 (Dutch)

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    “ Imho, many of the elderly/ frail/ in care-homes (as a risky place to be independently of illness, age etc.) / those dying ‘with covid’/ have passed away in the previous death spike. Today the stock of ppl who might rapidly expire under the COV19 label has been pretty much used up.”

    I think that’s an important point which so many “believers” fail to get when they say triumphantly how well the fox works; most of the low-hanging fruit has already fallen off the tree and is now decomposing on the ground.

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    Noirette said, “ Pope Francis imho didn’t have much choice. Going against the vaxx would be so detrimental…”

    I’m not a Catholic myself but those I know are conservatives and they say that it’s irrelevant how detrimental it would be to go against the jab as it’s a fundamental principle of Catholicism. Mind you, they also disagree with having Francis opening the church up to LGBT+ (Bosco’s point) to gain in popularity. They tell me that it’s driving more away than it’s bringing in.

    There’s a suggestion from them that “forces” deliberately set out to weaken the Church by undermining its central tenets. This started with Vatican II and the scrapping of the Latin mass. All the sexual scandals (while not denied) have been bigged up in the media to discredit the Church. Francis as a liberal pope just adds to that.

    Why (assuming my catholic friends are right) was this necessary? Did TPTB consider Rome to be a serious threat to their ambitions? If so, in what way?

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    Well, getting a pope to push shots on the flock which make use of aborted foetal tissue is not really something your everyday trad pope would be exactly likely to do, that’s why I say the pandemic must’ve been planned for some time.

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    Noirette, don’t you think that Francis is a pope on a rope? Traditionalist Ratzinger got sidelined to make way for a pope who would toe the official line (which means that this pandemic has been planned for a long time) There’s probably a lot more to the story but that’s the simple way I read it. If a billion Catholics were told by the pope not to take the jab, that would have sent a very strong message right around the world.

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    tdk, I sometimes pronounce it “come ‘ere naughty” and others “commie or nazi”.

    Government here is about to announce another “partial” lockdown (cafés, restaurants and shops must close at 7pm) for three weeks (so that’ll take us through to the new year) and after that we’re going to a 2G system whereby you can only go to cafés, restaurants, cinemas, theatres and museums if you’ve either been foxed or recovered within the last year; a negative test is no longer sufficient. I.e. we’re going full apartheid (well, it is a Dutch word, after all). That happens to be an infringement of article 1 of the constitution, but hey, who cares about the constitution these days, anyway?

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    As we witness calls today for the unvaccinated to be denied the right to work, as Wales extends segregation against the unvaccinated and as an Australian Premier states that those who refuse to comply with medical tyranny will be second-class citizens with few freedoms, we must believe that these people will one day be answerable for the havoc and misery they have wreaked.

    Make no mistake, like France’s collaborators everyone will have an excuse which justifies their inhumanity.

    Our most vicious and vocal fellow-citizens will blame the media for othering the unvaccinated, the media will blame the government for lying to them about the Covid threat, the government will blame the scientists for flawed data and maintain they only wanted to be our shield, the scientists will find a scapegoat and claim they were misled.

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/our-oppressors-will-answer-for-this-we-have-to-believe-it/

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    Oxymoron, Bosco

    Thanks for the link, it’s food for thought however far-fetched it sounds. What strikes me as believable about it is all the young global leaders who have been embracing the gen-therapy so enthusiastically, and they’re all known for being power hungry but missing any real ideas of their own. They’re perfectly placed for following orders to lead their respective countries over the cliff and they all seem to be hell-bent on wrecking their societies, social cohesion and economies as a part of that process without ever once stopping to think.

    What doesn’t make any kind of sense is, like Dr D said, Russia falling for the same scam. Maybe Putin will wise up following his trip to India. If he does change tack then that would really mess up “the plan.” At that point, perhaps Billy Goats will save the day by wheeling out his beloved smallpox 2.0.

    Is this really the plan or just another red herring? Whatever the truth is, something doesn’t add up.

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    UK funeral director seeing high numbers of (new born) babies and miscarriages in the mortuaries right now.

    https://odysee.com/@ResistanceGB:f/funeral-director-babies:c

    https://odysee.com/@ResistanceGB:f/funeral-director-babies:c

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