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If you take the position that the point of the “vaccines” is to kill people off, then everything makes much more sense than if you try to maintain that they’re beneficial and just have a few teething problems. The question I have is: do TPTB have sufficient control over this monster they have unleashed?
The big push now is to go for 100% vaccination. I get that part of that is to wipe out the control group, but TPTB will still need workers in their depopulated utopia. What if their final solution works just too well and kills too many people, the farmers, the swimming pool cleaners, the Lear Jet mechanics, the computer geeks and the cosmetic surgeons? What if their own resistance isn’t good enough and they get the covid psi variant against which even ivermectin is useless? IOW, do they have the magic key to stop the carnage whenever they want?
That’s maybe just idle fantasy, even so, the forcing of the dangerous jabs on people and the blocking of early treatments are bound to have unintended consequences. I wonder if anyone in power has thought about what they might be.
Reiner Fuellmich: Summary of Findings of the Corona Investigative Committee
https://odysee.com/$/embed/Reiner-Fuellmich-Eng/13b4011b59957a879b2bf20f5bb4c15f845a03ce?
The fact that the Chinese are vaccinating everybody tells us that C19 is definitely something to fear.
“ Roll up, roll up!
Get ‘yer horse paste, y’all”There, fixed it for you.
From the BBC article:
Ivermectin is primarily used for parasitic infections in animals and also has some application for humans in small doses.
And they wonder why nobody takes them seriously anymore.
Thanks for the RT link, Alexander. I’ve long thought that the best way through this is the law courts against those in power by means of the constitution, Nuremberg Code and human rights treaties. Fuellmich is supposed to be preparing an international criminal court case because he says all the judges in Germany are bent, but if France can set some kind of precedent then that could really get the ball rolling.
Go long popcorn.
I think anyone who tries to justify jabbing children with an experimental gene therapy should be held jointly liable for any harm caused.
It’s all the rage, you know, and quite right too. Unqualified people (like politicians, for instance) telling (or worse forcing) people to get jabbed have to be prepared for the consequences as when harm is caused. Now it seems thatt Doctors for Covid Ethics have informed EU politicians that will be held liable for vaccine harm. That should shut the ******s up.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/youre-liable-for-vaccine-harm-euro-mps-are-warned/
In the various interviews I’ve seen with him, I’ve always found Fleming to be very convincing and genuine. However, my daughter (just completing a master’s in biomedical science) told me that he’s not all he seems and talked about two fraud charges against him.
I was looking at his book on Amazon and saw this one star review:
[…]“But there’s more: A few minutes searching online will uncover material that should make any reader doubt his veracity. True to form, in the book Dr. Fleming continues to exaggerate his expertise and his credentials. As his own CV confirms (available in court filings), he does not have a PhD in any field. His claim to that designation is based on a high school science program he finished when he was 18. His claim to be an attorney is based on him participating in an unaccredited online law school.
“However, I didn’t see that the book provided details about his 2 felony convictions, including for health care fraud, but I may have missed that. He also neglected to mention that his supposed COVID trial that informs his treatment recommendations was rejected by a respected journal (European Journal of Medical Research) as it was transparently fabricated. All this is detailed on PubPeer if you search for the paper title (FMTVDM Quantitative Nuclear Imaging finds Three Treatments for SARS-CoV-2). Many of his other “research” papers can be found discussed with great skepticism at that site as well, just search for Richard Fleming.
“One thing he doesn’t seem to cover – he doesn’t explain why a former cardiologist (he lost his licenses to practice medicine) can turn into an expert on virology or epidemiology. He originally studied internal medicine, then dropped out of his University of Texas cardiology fellowship (and sued them), then appears to have practiced cardiology for a bit. Since the early 2000s, he’s tried selling books on cardiac health and fad diets, he’s dabbled in breast cancer “research,” ran a couple of apparently fraudulent clinical trials, and now he’s moved onto viruses… because why not?”
So now I don’t know whether to take him seriously or not. Anyone have anything to say on this?
Lots of good comments, thanks.
I tried the map but those who believe say immediately that there are other factors at play and that correlation does not equal causation. In fact there was a similar comment from one of the de-s when Ilargi posted it a while back.
@phoenix
Actually, I’d still love to be won over, so I would welcome a convincing argument, unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be one.
Meanwhile, NL is going full fourth reich and introducing corona passes for cinemas, restaurants etc from 25 September. Who cares that the vax doesn’t stop you from getting Covid nor from passing it on? Our minister for health keeps saying that the hospital admissions are 90% vaxxed even though the hospitals themselves say they aren’t recording patients’ vaccination status – another day, another lie.
V. Arnold, well said!
I’ve had a few conversations lately about you-know-what with friends and colleagues and I’m giving up with the softly-softly approach, it puts me on the defensive when it should be the proponents of these vaxes who need to justify themselves.
So it’s time to be much more aggressive. From now on I will state firmly my opinion that the vaccines don’t work and that they’re dangerous and then they will be the ones who have to try and come up with evidence for why they believe that the vaxes do work. I’ve got loads of stats at my fingertips so they’re going to have to come up with something really good to convince me.
When people say that the number of cases and deaths has dropped thanks to the vaccines, I say “summer!” and quote them the numbers from a year ago. That shuts ‘em up until they say it’s due to the delta variant and I have to remind them that that’s proof that the vaccines don’t work, which shuts ‘em up again.
I’m also getting really tired of the same people coming up with lame argument after lame argument as to why ivermectin doesn’t work. It’s always just “anecdotal” or “other factors” or “horse dewormer,” yada, yada. I don’t have a good approach for this yet, as they’re not interested in facts, any ideas?
“Case fatality rate among fully vaccinated is 5x higher than among unvaccinated.”
Can we call this ADE yet?
“The percentage of unvaccinated police officers in Greece is a big problem for the government’s plan to build immunity”
Are no governments anywhere being correctly informed by their scientists that the vaccines do not confer immunity?
“Moderna has announced that it is developing a single-dose vaccine to bring to the market that will combine a two-in-one booster shot that protects against both Covid-19 and flu.”
That sounds singularly lethal.
Read the Vanden Bossche piece I posted above and you will understand a lot better why the existing vaccines will never bring us herd immunity and are only exacerbating the problem. Early treatment is far and away the best way forward and the best way to achieve HI.
Good chance that Vanden Bossche’s latest will be in tomorrow’s Debt Rattle. He is as gloomy as ever since the pandemic is progressing very much as he thought it would, with breakthrough infections set to continue to accelerate. According to GVB, those of us who are still unvaccinated are doing a great service to humanity, which is not to say that we have nothing to fear.
“As an independent expert, I have come to the conclusion that if stakeholders override the emergency brake, it is better to concentrate on solutions for when the crash takes place. The wake-up shock is unlikely to occur before the percentage of Covid-19 disease and death in vaccinees largely exceeds that observed in the unvaccinated group in at least several of the ‘model’ countries (let’s hope that by then we will still have an unvaccinated control group). “
John Day wrote: “That makes me want to use cash more and more, today, to make the elimination of cash economy less feasible.”
I recently made a bit of a dash back to cash and was very surprised with the kick it gave me, it felt like a minor blow for freedom, a little victory, one in the eye of the burgeoning corporatocracy. I would encourage people to try it.
Many thanks for this. I’m particularly happy to read about taking these very high doses of vitamin D as being equivalent to consuming a whole bottle at once. I’d done the calculation myself and thought that I must have got something wrong in the conversion from IU to microgrammes.
I have quercetin plus vitamin C in one pill, I shall look for the one with phytosome. I also read a research paper which suggested that quercetin works to break up prions, if so, that would be great for the jabbed and also for the recovered. If quercetin works by helping the zinc get into the cells, wouldn’t it be worth taking it prophylactically?
I hope you get to keep your job or at least get quickly reinstated once it becomes obvious that the shots aren’t useful in combatting the disease.
Searched my memory for this from Big Audio Dynamite – about sums it up really.
Medicine Show
[…]
The stuff we sell is just the best
Passing all consumer test
Days of heaven nights of sin
Voodoo stick and sharks fin
When all around you seems like hell
Just one sip will make you well
Multipurpose in a jar
If you ain’t ill it’ll fix your car
In days of yore for all bad feelings
Washing socks and stripping ceilings
Nowadays its used medicinally
For all known human maladyIt was really foul weather
When we got tarred and feathered
You could hear the six guns sound
As they chased us out of townGuaranteed don’t you know
Money back?
You’ll get a no!
It’s the one and only medicine showHopefully this works, it’s a Twitter thread by Walter Chesnut which explains that the action of the spike is to drive senescence in the body’s cells. If I’ve understood it correctly, it means that people who either catch Covid or get vaccinated with mRNA/DNA vaccines will age faster and open themselves up to problems due to the specific genetic weaknesses we all have.
The Kendrick piece is depressing, it sounds very much like serious pressure is being exerted on him, so he has to curtail his writings on C19. It might even be worthwhile reading the article more closely as it feels as if there might be something written between the lines.
India has approved a new COVID vaccine that uses circular strands of DNA to prime the immune system against the virus SARS-CoV-2.
“ Know how it works? Spike proteins.”
This is something I just don’t understand, why there is the push for mRNA/DNA in so many countries, even Sputnik-V is a DNA vaccine, yet the Chinese Sinopharm, Sinovac etc. are all dead or deactivated virus vaccines. It’s not because the Chinese don’t have mRNA/DNA technology, and they’re clearly terrified of C19, so it strongly suggests that they know something that the West doesn’t. My guess is that the spike is a gateway killer with the potential to drastically reduce lifespans. ADE may kill quite a few this autumn/winter but it’s the excess death count with people dying of all sorts of diseases that we’re going to see over the next few years which will have a major impact on population sizes. The link back to C19 and the shots won’t be made thanks to deniable plausibility. I hope I’m wrong.
“On the one hand, Covid vaccines undoubtedly help to reduce infection and illness.”
We see this all the time, bold statements, taken as read, that the jabs are working wonders, and no one in the MSM ever points out that this particular emperor has been running around in his birthday suit for quite a while now. It’s not even difficult to prove, just look at the numbers for this time last year and compare them to now, 26x the number of cases for the UK and similar for other European countries. Ah yes, “but delta”, the true believers say, and “just think how bad it would have been without the vaccines!”
My neighbour works behind reception at a local hospital. A nice lady and a true believer, I talked to her this morning. She was defending jabbing the young as she said that there’s quite a few cases of 18 year olds and younger on the wards now. I told her that I didn’t think the jabs were working as hoped and that I also didn’t think they would be good for the young. She disagreed due to C19 risk of pericarditis and myocarditis which they are seeing in these young cases. I argued gently that they run the same risk from the vaccines, but it’s a lost cause. I then pointed out the huge difference in case numbers now compared to this time a year ago and she looked genuinely shocked as if realising for the first time that the vaccines may well not be the way out that everyone is assuming. She told me that her double-jabbed 90+ year old mother now has C19.
So perhaps there is a gradual dawning of awareness.
@ oxy
“Seems nice though. Maybe he can bring in the tea tray for the bikies.” Ha ha, I can see it now: Might I interest you in custard cweam or chocolate bourbon? Or perhaps sir would pwefer a jammy dodger? 😉
@ booga
Interesting that you have such a different take on it. Maybe I’m too cynical but only testing symptomatic people now when they could be vaccinated, high-viral-load carriers instead of before vaccination started when asymptomatic didn’t really exist, seems to me to be about the government trying to hide the problem. That vitamin D is finally getting some air time was the only positive for me.
@Figmund from yesterday.
As excruciating as it was, I just about managed to sit through that Doc Campbell video you posted. What a lot of nonsense, lies, misinformation, misrepresentation and fear mongering it was. I couldn’t work out whether Capmbell is a shill or a nincompoop, but decided in the end on the latter, or at the very least, a useful idiot. This is the kind of garbage my former GP friend has no doubt been lapping up – no wonder he blocked me!
He starts out (and keeps repeating through the video) how the message has changed, herd immunity is no longer possible and testing is therefore pointless. Those are valid points but he doesn’t engage his brain for a second to think about the consequences of what he’s just said. Instead he goes through the latest missive from high priest of scientism, prof Pollard and proceeds to go through every sentence, clause and sub-clause as if it were God’s holy words he were examining.
So we “learn” that:
– herd immunity is no longer possible due to
those meddling kidsthat dastardly delta variant and certainly nothing to do with the vaccines which are truly wonderful and although they won’t stop you from getting the virus (we’re all going to get it anyway) they will prevent you from getting very sick, honest, so get jabbed up.– there’s no point in testing people who aren’t even sick (perish the thought!) and people who haven’t been jabbed are all going to end up very ill, in hospital and may well die. The only thing that can possibly save you is the jab [so we’re going to need those vaccine passports].
– if you’ve had Covid and have since been double jabbed you’ve got good protection against getting it again and if you’ve been double jabbed and had a breakthrough infection, you’re also well protected i.e. natural immunity doesn’t exist.
– we’re all going to get it anyway (am I repeating myself?) so get jabbed, jabbed again and put up with it because there’s no other option.
So no lessons were learrnt from the Diamond Princess and it doesn’t enter his tiny mind that the reason we’re all going to get it now is because the dang vaccines have wrecked our immune systems and are pushing the variants.
What a total wazzock.
“ The only doubt remaining: will a major armed conflict/destruction be avoided?”
The way I see it, the US is likely to have fairly serious internal problems which may lead to the break up of the union, but in the short to medium term, a major conflict with an external power looks avoidable.
Unfortunately for those of us in Europe (including the UK) things don’t look rosy at all. I expect some kind of war here a bit over a year from now. Buoyed by their success in Afghanistan and massively aided by the ongoing vaccine debacle, the various sleeper cells in Germany in particular (where they accepted a million “Syrians”) and throughout the west of the continent thanks to the refugee crisis from a couple of years ago will rise up and attempt to take over.
I start wishing we had a 2nd amendment here.
Covid jabs and the case of the collapsing athletes
“ SPORTS stars are amongst the fittest people on the planet, but in the last three months there have been 15 reports of top-class athletes collapsing and even dying. These are not the bone and muscle injuries you might expect but heart issues, brain bleeds and unexplained collapse. Covid vaccinations have been implicated although not all conditions can be traced directly back to the jabs and some remain a perplexing mystery.”
OK, it’s only 15 athletes, so far, but the cases are unusual and who’s to say that it ends there?
John Day, Ilargi, Deflationista and those darned kids
When I see an article or comment which is full of these words, it tells me two things: 1. the people who write them don’t respect their readers, and 2. they don’t respect themselves either. For those reasons I will normally skip such articles and comments.
@deflat
I’m looking for some convincing material which proves that the vaccines are both safe and effective, also over the long term. If you could provide me with some I’d be most grateful.
“ Ivermectin used as a parasitic. Nice coincidence.”
I thought of passing this graph on to the RIVM and the minister for health, but stopped because I realized that it wouldn’t be acted on (not unless or until disaster strikes), can’t be acted on, since to do so would require the government to admit to gross wrongdoing and damaging the health of the nation, which, of course, would entail jail time for many of them. In other words, no matter how convincing the evidence, they won’t back down.
Surely the whole control-through-vaccine-passports schtick falls apart if many of the the double-jabbed kick the bucket when they get their third shot?
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Many people are thinking that sleepy Joe won’t make it through the autumn, after all, a fall guy is needed. I got to thinking that maybe he won’t make it physically: He’s clearly suffering from advanced dementia, so that could carry him off (or it could be conveniently ‘accelerated’); He could catch a nasty virus that’s apparently doing the rounds – that would be quite‘poetic’; or, if someone wanted the chasm between red and blue to widen to breaking point, then he could be shot by a sniper on a bridge in, say, a major city in Texas, but the blame could be pinned on some MAGA-hat wearing redneck holding an antique rifle in a nearby warehouse. That ought to do it.
Yes, thanks Phoenix, a good summary, and thanks also Raùl. I read ZH too but I come here because much more thought goes into which articles are selected. As far as C19 is concerned, I’m fully aware of what the MSM are saying and TAE provides a vital sanity check.
When arguing, it’s always good to keep in mind the hierarchy of argument, which in today’s effort started off down at number 6: “ad hominem” and swiftly descended to the very bottom, 7: “name calling.”
Way to go, a real class act.
Getting wound up watching the evening news as ministers, international Red Cross and any number of important types keep repeating the mantra that they were “taken by surprise” when the Taliban took over Afghanistan and the US cut and ran, so they couldn’t evacuate their people. How could they not have known? Trump had planned for May and that was delayed by joe until 11 September – just a few weeks later, yet not a single reporter calls these wasters out.
“What will they do when this conclusion from Britain’s own goverment becomes unavoidable? ”
I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately. In NL the main narrative is still going strong, people believe the vaccines will save them from getting (seriously) sick and that herd immunity is just around the corner. We’re at 85% of adults vaccinated now, third jab coming next month, probably, yet it’s the unvaxxed who are causing all the problems. Meanwhile ICU staff are quitting much faster than they can be recruited, so that bodes well for the coming flu season.
If western governments are all kowtowing to the WEFfers demands, does that mean that our “leaders” have lost all ability to think for themselves even, as you say, as hard data comes in? What about their “scientific” advisers from the CDC/MHRA/RIVM,who seem to be struggling to spot a black cat in the snow?
You’ve already opined that the WEFfers couldn’t organize a farting contest in a wind tunnel, so at what point do our “leaders” see that they’re full of putrid excrement?
They can’t possibly hope to keep this under wraps forever and once the general public cottons on there’s going to be a run on lampposts and rope.
“If it were up to me I’d roundup every cowering cowardly spineless judge in the country and lock them all up at hard labor breaking rocks until the day they all died a miserable pusillanimous prolonged death in jail.”
Having a bad day, Oroboros? I sympathize. I keep hoping that Fuellmich is going to come up with the goods, but he’s been saying that the judiciary in Germany is all bent, too. In any case, he says he’s going to go over their heads and straight to the International Criminal Court in The Hague. Let’s just hope that they’re not bought, too.
I just watched Catherine Austin-Fitts talking to Del Bigtree. A lot of similar information as in the Planet Lockdown video with her that I posted yesterday. I recommend you watch that, although this is quite good, too.
She explains about how everything is being set up for a move to a central bank digital currency (The Grim Reset) and the vaccine passports are an essential part of that which will allow full monitoring (and control) of everything you do and hence a social credit scheme. The lockdowns and the riots of last year were to trash small businesses and hand their real estate to the likes of Blackrock etc. The “vaccines” are to reduce life expectancy and hence solve the pension crisis, but you all already knew all that.
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We already know that the vaxxed can still catch Covid. Various numbers are given but, as we know from Israel, once a few months have passed the efficacy is down to 39%. Maybe after a few more months the efficacy drops all the way back to zero, we just don’t know yet.
Once infected, the vaxxed can pass the virus on as easily as the unvaxxed and some reports suggest that may be even easier due to higher titres in the vaxxed.
So what do we have left to justify getting the jab? The stock answer is as Dr Robert Malone says above, “While good at preventing severe disease and death…”, and that’s taken as a given, yet should it be? Can we really say that that is true?
The vaccines were mainly rolled out in the winter and spring In the northern hemisphere and the numbers of “cases” and deaths were sky high during that time. Now in the summer, when respiratory diseases are normally relatively rare, we have (in Europe) around 4-5 times the number of “cases” compared to last year at the same time and deaths are about double. We’re told that this is due to the delta variant which is apparently more contagious but less deadly than previous variants. Fine, that would explain the higher number of “cases” but not the deaths. So where’s the big pay off from having jabbed everybody? Who’s to say in any case that the 80% or so of people who never would have got C19 (as we know free the Diamond Princess) are now catching it because their immune systems have been compromised thanks to having been jabbed?
Add to that the very significant dangers associated with getting the jab in the first place (not to mention the necessary subsequent booster shots) and it looks like we have a lose-lose-lose-lose situation here. Meanwhile all our respective governments and health authorities manage to say is that we must jab and jab again.
@Germ, that sounds very similar to how my UK GP (now ex-) friend reacted, he really flipped his lid about ivermectin. I can’t help thinking that these doctors are being threatened with being struck off if they so much as engage in a discussion about IVM.
The video I just posted offers a possible explanation.
Is this what’s really going on? I’ve no idea, but it’s a very interesting interview with a lot to think about.
It’s all going smoothly and according to plan, I’m sure.
Zylon-V has an efficacy of 39% which is better than 50% and so gets EUA and on Monday, full approval, because otherwise Bill might lose some money.
Face masks don’t stop people from getting infected according to the Daily Mail.
Now it seems that lockdowns aren’t good for your health because they could lead to you getting a rubber bullet in the eye.
“My message to parents who will need to of course provide consent for the children, is that I would not have been a part of a process and approving this, unless I believed it was safe…”
I don’t give a rat’s derrière what she believes, she has to know it’s safe before advising people to give it to their children. Of course, she doesn’t know it’s safe quite simply because she cannot know it is and that should be reason enough for any responsible parent not to allow their child to be vaccinated.
“We don’t yet know how much transmission can happen from people who get Covid-19 after being vaccinated – for example, they may have high levels of virus for shorter periods of time,” said Sarah Walker, a professor of medical statistics and epidemiology at the University of Oxford, before continuing “or they may have high levels of virus for very long periods of time, we just don’t know at the moment – wait, scratch that last bit would you?”
Right after my previous post I saw this:
“Banks block accounts of ‘conspiracy thinkers’ & ‘anti-vaxers’: ‘This is what the Netherlands have become’
Several banks have blocked accounts of organizations that they believe are spreading ‘fake news’ about corona and vaccinations. NRC writes that at least eight channels have been put on hold or have been closed from their bank account or payment service, including Viruswaarheid and De Blauwe Tijger.Rabobank writes in an internal message: “Rabobank does not facilitate initiatives that actively spread conspiracy theories and other proven disinformation.” Triodos Bank refuses to be a customer, according to NRC Viruswaarheid. According to the bank, Virus Truth has “called for confrontations that are at odds with our values.”
In April, payment service Mollie banned the YouTube channel Café Weltschmerz. Bunq bank no longer wanted Doctors for Truth as a customer.
The message led to many critical reactions. “Censorship has many faces,” writes program maker Flavio Pasquino of BLCKBX.
Journalist Eric van de Beek adds: “This is what my country has become. Dissidents who are cut off from the payment system. I propose: blacklist for banks that are most often guilty of this. We say our bank accounts on that.”
“Interesting. The three largest banks in the Netherlands (ING, Rabo and ABN Amro) are already ‘partners’ of the WEF. Others would like to become one,” comments Member of Parliament Gideon van Meijeren (FVD). “When they say ‘incompatible with the bank’s mission,’ do they mean Klaus Schwab’s mission?”
General practitioner Els van Veen responds: “There is a media offensive/information war going on against ‘fake news’. And fake is, of course, anything that does not fit into the government’s corona narrative.”
This afternoon the Dutch parliament will discuss how far the solidarity of the vaxxed should extend to those who refuse to “protect” themselves. This makes me almost speechless with rage. Parliament seems to be woefully badly informed, they apparently know next to nothing about the mountain of adverse reactions and deaths, and know even less about ADE, micro clots, breakthrough viruses, prion disease, natural immunity, prophylactic treatments etc, etc.
How can we be governed by people who haven’t a clue?
