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You know that’s not true.
Pfizer was said to be 95% effective, that number was touted everywhere. Moderna was something like 92% and J&J around 67%. People were led to believe that if they got the Pfizer jab their chances of catching the virus would be reduced by 95%. Also, if herd immunity means anything then it means that people either jabbed or recovered, can’t pass the virus on. If that isn’t true because the shots don’t prevent transmission then vaccinating people won’t help in achieving herd immunity.
Why don’t you read the article and argue the points made instead of just linking some dubious article intended to bamboozle the credulous?
I’m not buying into the scary Great Reset thing. They may have the money, but they ain’t got the brains.
Which puts you in line with Kunstler. I tend to agree and certainly hope you’re right. However, I was reminded of this quote from Jacques Attali who was an advisor to French President François Mitterrand and the first head of the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development. It suggests that dreams of pandemics to reduce the population have been going on for quite some time. The late Prince Philip is reported to have said that he didn’t believe in reincarnation, but that if he were to come back, he would like to be a nasty virus which would wipe out a large proportion of the world population.
When I googled the quote, Snopes kindly informed me it was fake, of course, I don’t know whether Snopes is telling me the truth either, so make of the quote what you will.
”The future will be about finding a way to reduce the population. We start with the old, because as soon as they exceed 60-65 years, people live longer than they produce and that costs society dearly. Then the weak, then the useless that do not help society because there will always be more of them, and above all, ultimately, the stupid.Euthanasia will have to be an essential tool in our future societies, in all cases. Of course we will not be able to execute people or build camps.
We get rid of them by making them believe that it is for their own good. Overpopulation, and mostly useless, is something that is too costly economically. Socially, too, it is much better when the human machine comes to an abrupt standstill than when it gradually deteriorates.
Neither will we be able to test millions upon millions of people for their intelligence, you bet that! We will find or cause something a pandemic targeting certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus affecting the old or the fat, it doesn’t matter, the weak will succumb to it, the fearful and stupid will believe in it and seek treatment. We will have made sure that treatment is in place, treatment that will be the solution. The selection of idiots then takes care of itself: You go to the slaughter by yourself.” Jacques Attali (1981) from his book Verbatim
Then there’s a recent quote from tony nosferatu blair saying that they have their people in place everywhere. So maybe they don’t have the brains, but perhaps with all their money they could buy some.
“SAGE: Next Covid variant could kill one in three people
A doomsday new Covid variant that could kill UP TO one in three people is a ‘realistic possibility’, according to the Government’s top scientists.Documents published by the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) today warned a future strain could be as deadly as MERS — which which has a case fatality rate of 35 per cent — could be on the way.
No10’s expert panel It said the likelihood of the virus mutating is highest when it is most prevalent — as is currently the case in Britain.
And a downside of Britain’s hugely successful vaccine drive, it appears the country’s greater levels of immunity could help speed up the process.
Scientists said Britain should bring in booster vaccine doses over the winter, minimise new variants coming from abroad and consider culling animals — including minks and even cats, which can harbour the virus — to prevent the mutant strain occurring.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9844701/SAGE-Covid-variant-kill-one-three-people.html
There’s something shifting, isn’t there? First the WSJ, then CNN (!) saying “Vaccination alone won’t stop the rise of variants and in fact could push the evolution of strains that evade their protection…”
Is that the sound of people covering their donkeys as they get wind of Nuremberg 2.0?
Victory: Court cancels dismissal of woman (25) who refused corona vaccine
On July 16, a court in Curaçao ruled for the first time in the Dutch kingdom about a dismissal in connection with the refusal of the corona vaccination. The judge ruled in a case brought by a 25-year-old woman who refused to be vaccinated against corona and was subsequently fired by her employer. She has worked as an administrative assistant at Century Trust legal consultancy since 2016.
On April 7, the woman was fired on the spot, after which she went to court. He has now proved her right. There is no general vaccination obligation and without a vaccination obligation, refusing a vaccination cannot lead to immediate dismissal, according to the judge.
Infringement of fundamental rights
Vaccination affects the fundamental right of citizens to inviolability of the human body and the right to respect for privacy. Employers must respect these fundamental rights.
By dismissing the employee, there was an indirect obligation to vaccinate (vaccination pressure). This resulted in a violation of women’s fundamental rights. Such an infringement was not justified in this case. The judge’s ruling confirms the line that an employer cannot directly or indirectly oblige its employees to be vaccinated.
Also relevant for the Netherlands
A comparable legal system exists in Curaçao and for that reason the judgment is also relevant for Dutch case law.
“DiAngelo of CRT fame has declared a Leftist war on Comedy. No joke! …So to speak.”
No worries, ‘cos we’ve got that covered here in Yerp, too. It seems that only far-right extremists can create funny memes and so the EC has its Radicalisation Awareness Network setting out what constitutes humour.
Memes with Wojak NPC cartoons are deemed not funny, neither is Doge and definitely not Pepe the Frog, this is all subversive and very unfunny humour. New guidelines by RAN will be drawn up to outline what constitutes good humour, for instance a man slipping on a banana skin is very funny provided it is a white, heterosexual man. Anybody else slipping on a banana skin is most certainly not funny at all.
@TAE Summary from yesterday, thanks for the two different narratives, very useful. I had thought to do something similar but you saved me the bother (and probably better). The one minor change I would make would be to the very last line:
“ – The Covid 19 response is all about money, power and control” and depopulation.
My contribution to any summary you might produce today would be on my takeaway from the Vanden Bossche piece:
Get vaxxed? Doomed if you do and doomed if you don’t.
From yesterday, Russel wrote: “I sympathise but we have honestly 100s of years of evidence that it doesn’t work and just hardens the response, as ezlxa says. The response can sometimes harden so much that the military is bought in and it’s a massacre.”
From what I’ve been seeing from Oz, I believe you’re right. I was thinking in terms of NL where we’re not at that stage (yet). Even over the last couple of years we’ve had farmers protesting by driving their tractors over the motorways to The Hague and managing to secure some important concessions from the government.The police reaction was calm with very few incidents. Things are beginning to change even here, unfortunately.
So I think it’s perhaps more interesting to redirect fire away from the general public, whether they be for or against the vaccines, and aim it at the perpetrators. One idea would be to re-badge the “Chinese virus” or “Wuhan virus” and start calling it what it is, e.g. #faucivirus. Perhaps we can get that going viral (pun intended).
Then perhaps we can consider doing something similar to the vaccines, like the #gatesvaccine or #WEFvaccine. I would like to use #genocidevaccine as well, but it’s probably too “in your face” and so we would need some more euphemistic word for genocide if such a thing exists. How about the #finalsolutionvaccine?
“I feel the best way to protest lockdowns, masks, jabs etc is to just ignore them. Just live our lives, congregate, party, associate, create.”
It’s something though probably not enough. I think you have to get ‘em where it hurts e.g. working to rule, strikes, highway blockages, that kind of thing.
“If you have been vaccinated twice, an infection is not likely to be a serious matter. And also you aren’t likely to be taking as many precautions as someone who is not vaccinated.”
I’d love to believe that but it’s not the message we’re getting from Israel, UK and now Iceland, apparently.
Even double-jabbed Piers Morgan has had a nasty bout of the ‘rona, though there are those who wouldn’t think of that as a bad thing.
Democritus, if you’re double jabbed and still reading TAE then I salute you, I don’t know any vaccinated people who can bear to hear that they might have made the wrong decision and usually get very defensive or even aggressive when presented with some inconvenient facts.
If you read the article and remain unconvinced, then I salute you again, not because I think you’re right, but because you’re looking at the evidence and making up your own mind. That to me is what it’s all about.
I know the preferred artistic expression on this site is paintings – and I am grateful to our host for the education in art that I have received by checking in most days – but the art form that I was always most drawn to is poetry. Arond this time of year when the wheat is harvested I think of this tremendous poen by Stanley Kunitz. Given the current state of the world I think it is especially relevant.
End of Summer
An agitation of the air,
A perturbation of the light
Admonished me the unloved year
Would turn on its hinge that night.I stood in the disenchanted field
Amid the stubble and the stones,
Amazed, while a small worm lisped to me
The song of my marrow-bones.Blue poured into summer blue,
A hawk broke from his cloudless tower,
The roof of the silo blazed, and I knew
That part of my life was over.Already the iron door of the north
Clangs open: birds, leaves, snows
Order their populations forth,
And a cruel wind blows.I just watched this:
“EXCLUSIVE! Dr. David Martin Just Ended COVID, Fauci, DOJ, Politicians in ONE INTERVIEW”
and David Martin comes across as genuine and convincing, saying very serious things about Fauci (in particular) and others, which would be serious grounds for slander (much more serious than what Rand Paul recently said in congress). He says he has sent his evidence to the DoJ and other bodies for investigation and gets nowhere. What am I missing here? Is this some kind of extremely elaborate hoax, because it doesn’t seem like it. How come there is
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no moratorium on giving the vaccines, not in the US and not in other countries around the world?
“ Vaccines vs antibodies”
So the answer to the problem of the vaccines causing a five-fold reduction in neutralizing antibodies is more shots which presumably reduce your neutralizing antibodies even more. How does that possibly make any sense?
Fly Fauci Airways! pic.twitter.com/BjEA81VaOM
— dareme2020 (@estephan1) July 21, 2021
“What DO the vaccines do?”
I have a sneaking suspicion that you already have some ideas about what that might be.
My related questions would be “Do the vaccine suppliers fully understand what the vaccines do? Do those who are promoting them so aggressively know what they do? How about after a couple of years and several booster shots?
It seems to me that this could easily quickly get seriously hand, and when I say “this” I mean debilitating disease and death. To be brutally crude about it, what happens if everyone who got the shot shows up dead within five years, have “they” thought of that?
Yesterday, president of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen posted this:
With @BillGates, we discussed @EU_Commission & @gatesfoundation teaming up to:
•Enhance health surveillance & alert systems
•Boost manufacturing & technology transfer, esp. in Africa
•Help establish an African Medicines Agency
•Co-invest in breakthrough climate technologies pic.twitter.com/qlLiCEwuEC— Ursula von der Leyen (@vonderleyen) July 19, 2021
It made me feel sick to my stomach. We didn’t even vote for her, let alone for an associate of Jeffrey Epstein who’s into depopulation and eugenics and certainly isn’t a European.
De Volkskrant:
Research: Janssen protects less against delta variant, extra jab may still be necessary
The blood of people who have been vaccinated with the Janssen vaccine can cope a lot worse with the delta variant of the coronavirus than with other variants. This could mean that the 750 thousand Dutch people who have been vaccinated with Janssen’s ‘one-shot vaccine’ will need an extra shot.
Note: J&J is called Janssen in Holland.
The emergency use authorization vaccines that are currently on the market, however, are strikingly effective against the Delta variant. [..] At this point, experts say the picture looks fairly rosy.
Wow, that particular bull must have dysentery.
Dutch newspaper, De Volkskrant, today:
Virologists sound the alarm: delta variant also spreads via vaccinated people
Once again, virologists are sounding the alarm about the coronavirus. The delta variant is so contagious that people who have already been fully vaccinated can also pass on the virus. This could have ‘major consequences’ for policy, the scientists warn.
Although vaccinees who contract the delta variant usually do not become so sick that they end up in hospital, they can transmit the virus to others. That is why people who have been vaccinated should adhere to the same rules as non-vaccinated people: testing immediately in case of complaints, testing for admission tickets and after returning from vacation, and keeping an extra good distance from people who have not yet been vaccinated.
“The idea we had in the beginning, that you no longer transmit the virus after vaccination, does not seem to hold true for the delta variant,” says clinical virologist Matthijs Welkers (Amsterdam UMC). “We even see people who have already had an infection, have been vaccinated twice and are now testing positive again.”
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What probably happens is that the virus partially undermines the immune system. Anyone who becomes infected with the delta variant produces up to a thousand times as many virus particles as in the original variant, according to a recently published analysis. “At the beginning of the infection, it’s probably so much that your antibodies can’t keep up,” says Welkers. “Because of its large numbers, the virus breaks through the defense as it were.”
In addition, antibodies from vaccinees are about eight times less effective on the delta variant protrusions than on those of the original virus, according to recently published British lab tests. That doesn’t make things any better.
The fact that vaccinated individuals rarely end up in ICU or die is due to something else. After the initial phase of the infection, the delta variant probably also runs into the T cells, the line of defense that cleans up affected cells and controls the inflammation. This keeps the disease limited.
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In other countries, that awareness is also beginning to decline. For example, Israel, where the population was vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine, announced on Friday that more than a thousand fully vaccinated people in that country have already become infected with the delta variant again. And in India, scientists discovered that healthcare workers who had been vaccinated with AstraZeneca often still became infected with the delta variant. “The warning that this emanates is that although vaccination is very important, it is not the only thing that is needed to prevent transmission,” says Koopmans.
In this episode of Jerm Warfare, Dr Peter McCullough mentions that some of those who participated in the Phase II trials of Pfizer and were injected last summer are now presenting neurological disorders. Has anyone heard any more about this? I’ve tried searching but only found cases linked to Covid or “success” stories.
“Globalist? Good. Out of the door. Line on the left. One cross each.”
Britain could see 200,000 cases a DAY and 20k hospital admissions in WEEKS, warn experts
As England gears up for a full unlocking tomorrow, medical experts warn that infections and hospitalisation figures could reach all-time highs in the coming weeks.
And Chris Whitty also warned earlier this weekend that England could be plunged back into lockdown within five weeks, with “scary” hospitalisations numbers doubling every three weeks.
Professor Neil Ferguson told BBC’s Andrew Marr this morning: “100,000 cases a day is almost inevitable.
“I mean, we could get to 2,000 hospitalisations a day, 200,000 cases a day, but it’s much less certain.
“There, you are talking about major disruption of services and cancellation of elective surgery and the backlog in the NHS, getting longer and longer.”
Yesterday, Covid cases rose by 70 per cent in a week as 54,674 new infections were reported.
Deaths have increased by 41, bringing the total to 128,683.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15623092/britain-could-cases-hospital-soar-experts/
Doesn’t it occur to any of these people that it may be the vaccines which are causing this problem?
“FOI request to the Scottish Government regarding deaths after vaccination, I received my reply, it stated from December 17th 2020 to June 21st 2021, just 6 months;
5,522 people have died within 28 days of receiving a covid vaccination”
Who wrote that, Ilargi?
I agree all the way about the earlier Who, madamski. You’re right too, that the version of Won’t Get Fooled Again I posted is speeded up compared to the album version. In my experience, bands frequently do that for live performances, perhaps it’s to do with the high they get from performing in front of a large crowd.
I don’t think anyone could match Moon’s manic drumming when he was at his peak.
The cracks are getting wider, no wonder the Grim Resetters are trying to rush mandates through. Here’s some excellent news from France
Ivermectin Reduces the Severity of Infection according to the Institut Pasteur
A study by the French institute has found a reduction in symptoms linked to Covid-19 thanks to this antiparasitic, even though it is not recommended by the WHO. The drug acts on the nicotinic receptor, according to neurobiologist Jean-Pierre Changeux.
Learn more about RT France: https://francais.rt.com/france/88707-ivermectine-reduit-gravite-infection-covid-19-selon-institut-pasteur
A bit too technical for me, the conclusions are interesting though.
“ Conclusion on Vaccines against SARS-Cov-2
The mechanism of COVID-19 disease shows, that it is not possible to make a vaccine against SARS- Cov-2. The toxin is formed much faster then more complex auto-antibodies. Applying a vaccine shifts the equilibrium of the reaction towards the auto-antibodies. As a consequence, infection with SARS-Cov-2 is resulting in a symptomatically milder disease, as immune reaction to the toxin does not occur. However, the seemingly symptomatic milder auto-immune disease will inevitably occur.
Further supporting evidence of the hypothesis
Changes in physical phenotype of blood cells (shape and size) is altered in COVID-19 (12).
An interesting observation is that aspirin roughly halved mortality in COVID-19 patients (13). Aspirin- triggered 15-epi-lipoxin A4 regulates neutrophil-platelet aggregation and attenuates acute lung injury in mice (14).”https://www.dropbox.com/s/zi50cv84pg8v57m/Aetiology%20of%20COVID19%20revisited-update.pdf?dl=0
It’s a typo, but it’s a good one:
“…urged citizens to get their jabs against Covid-19 jabs”
If only there were such a jab!
I looked at the CNBC link, democritus (already quite something for me even to look at such an untrustworthy source of news) and saw this:
– Covid hospitalizations are rising in some parts of the world, mostly where vaccination rates are low and the highly contagious delta variant is spreading.
– In the U.S., officials have said virtually all recent Covid hospitalizations and deaths were occurring among unvaccinated people.
– Some studies have shown that those infected with Covid after vaccination produce much less virus than those who are unvaccinated, reducing the risk of passing the virus to others.BAM! Three lies right there. Still, they got their facts from the WHO, so ’nuff said.
“The vaccines were intended to prevent hospitalisations and that’s what they have done.”
Do you have any proof for that, democritus? All I have seen is curves (cases, hospitalisations,deaths) for this year which look remarkably similar to those from last year (high at the beginning, dropping low in the summer) except this year they got (a lot) worse soon after people started getting “vaccinated.”
This is also doing the rounds on SM: three presidents Haïti, Burundi and Tanzania, who refused to push the vaccines are all now ‘surfing beneath the turf.’ Coincidence? Probably.
https://commonsensetv.nl/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/presidenten-3-weigerlanden-dood.jpg
Dr. Martin appears to be associated with the “Plandemic” crowd and with some marginal crypto-religious groups inveighing against Jewish conspiracies and freemasonry — two big red flags for me.
I was a bit surprised by Jim’s sceptical stance wrt Fuellmich et al, yet some on SM are saying that it’s a more sophisticated form of Q-Anon. Maybe that is a double bluff, too, who knows? Meantime, the fact checkers are getting fact checked and everyone is debunking everyone else, like this:
here is another example of Psy-ops being deployed. Google has placed this at the top of their ranking if you search my name. Good to know. Get used to it – this is our future now.https://t.co/ps47xeiNml
— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) July 13, 2021
I’m beginning to see what a post-truth world looks like.
@phoenixvoice: “ However, if the intent of the long swab was to implant mind control nanochips…it didn’t work on me.“
Ha! That’s what you’ve been programmed to say.
I agree with all your points about Russia, Putin and not wanting to lose face, except I don’t think it can be quite the whole story. For the last eight or more months, Russia has been losing 500 to 1000 a day to Covid and the one big problem they have there is already a declining population, so why aren’t they doing all they can to stop the rot? What if – as most of us here suspect – the vaccines (even Sputnik V) reduce life expectancy considerably?
Difficult to find anything to agree with in your comment, Aldertag.
The transmission has already been handled by Dr D, I’ll just add that short of locking people down (or should that be up?) really hard – i.e. everyone stays full time at home, food is delivered by someone in a hazmat suit – it’s impossible to stop the spread of a respiratory virus and the consequences of hard lockdown on the immune system are very significant.
As for how ivermectin works, this has been discussed in the comments on TAE. Basically, if I understood correctly, it prevents the spike proteins from attaching to the ACE2 receptors which are mainly found in the nose, lungs, ovaries etc.
Lastly, the vaccines deliver orders of magnitude more spike protein into your body than does the virus and it’s the spike proteins which do all the damage.
