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there was an old speaker who swallowed a fly to catch the flu,
oh, boohoo, boohoo, what will she do?
there was an old speaker who swallowed the ways and means committee to catch the fly to catch the flu,
oh, boohoo, boohoo, what will she do?
there was an old speaker who swallowed the flu,
oh, boohoo, boohoo, what will she do?
hmm, will the extra fencing really stop the flies? or will the holes be big enough to let the flies through?
hmmm, last updated pour moi, yet my post is nowhere, and it tells me i have a duplicate post.
about that lobby popcorn – the salt just tears up your lips.
and ¿golden topping? that’s pure kompramat.
As calls for the Food and Drug Administration to fully approve Covid-19 vaccines grow louder, the agency itself has little to say. This is a mistake. The agency insists it is “working as quickly as possible” and has suggested that full approval may come for at least one vaccine by the end of summer. The public is left wondering: What’s taking so long?
This isn’t just a minor nuisance. It undermines trust in the vaccines and damages the FDA’s most valuable asset — its credibility.
The drug regulators have good reason to insist on thoroughly reviewing many months of clinical trial data before fully licensing any medicine. The emergency use authorizations for the vaccines now administered in the U.S. were based on just two months of follow-up data — enough to be confident that the vaccines are safe, effective, and fit for use in response to a pressing need, but relying on a faster analysis than the FDA requires for its full approval process. To fully approve the vaccines, the FDA looks at more data and satisfies itself on a range of other issues, including developing detailed guidance on use.
This two-track system, allowing flexibility when circumstances demand it, makes sense. To many outside the agency, however, it seems contradictory. Late last year, the FDA pronounced the mRNA vaccines safe and effective enough for emergency use; many months later, it hasn’t fully licensed them. So are the vaccines safe and effective or not? That’s a reasonable question — and the agency has failed to answer it clearly.
With the delta variant racing through the population and the pace of vaccination in the U.S. still too slow, many observers, including some infectious-disease professionals, have accused the FDA of dragging its feet. Without transparent communication from the agency itself, it’s impossible to know whether that charge is correct. On Friday, an agency official said it was making further efforts to speed its review, making one wonder why every effort hadn’t already been made. The FDA traditionally hasn’t explained its ongoing work in detail, but hesitancy over the Covid-19 vaccines makes that reticence unacceptable.
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If it’s now in a position to affirm that six months’ worth of clinical trial data provides stronger confirmation that the shots work safely, it should do so, and announce that the licenses will soon be forthcoming. It should also explain what further steps are involved, and how long they’ll take. This would reassure Americans that the shots are indeed safe and that anyone who hasn’t yet gotten them should go ahead without delay. It would assure businesses that requiring vaccinations for their employees right away is wise. And it would discourage states from forbidding vaccine mandates until the shots are fully approved.
One more thing. Right now, at a moment of exceptional stress, the FDA is hobbled by its lack of a permanent leader. After more than six months in office, President Joe Biden has yet to make the appointment. The agency’s professionals are surely aware of the urgency on vaccines. They know it would be a mistake to bow to pressure by cutting corners. Competently led, they can be more effective — and help restore public trust — simply by explaining what they’re doing.
—Editors: Mary Duenwald, Clive Crook.
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i believe government starts with one’s self. oneself. one s’elf. grrr…
then the family,
“We have to go to paper, maybe it takes longer. But the only secure system is paper. Not these systems that nobody understands,”
new topic + trump!
injectingputting life into the comments below.
e) baby vader
dr. fauci thought he was hired by the Centers for Disease Construction.
germ: from the same british paper (they actually say this more than once):
• Consider stockpiling prophylactic and therapeutic drugs for SARS-CoV-2.
prophylactic drugs?! tell me, tell me more…
more people die in car crashes than from covid.
ALL CARS MUST WEAR MASKS!!!
m.c., i was trying to make a pun. tripping, lsd, “high” heels.
m.r. wearing ties all the time has given too many men (and women!) a nasty acquired soul-deformity known as “neoliberalism’.
great quote, upper.
viet, the powers don’t need to explain a fifth wave. everybody knows now whose fault it is.
germ, only the finest of jabs are allowed a membership. we may admit an asian for the photos.
m.c. ¿high? heels?
absolute. all the king’s nurses, and all the king’s rubes, couldn’t stop spikey from blocking her tubes.
i’d say she’s the most cheney since agnew.
sarah woulda been great..
gain of function,
gain of friction;
gain of faction,
gain of fiction.
it’s all in the flavour spikes!
dr. fauci was not lying when he said he did no gain of function research. his research was gain of infarction.
m.c. hahahaha.., too bad delaware joe ain’t an alcoholic like uncle boris was. that’d make the show really interesting.
m.r. nice echoes in 5.
Overhead the albatross hangs motionless upon the air
And deep beneath the rolling waves in labyrinths of coral caves
The echo of a distant time comes willowing across the sand
And everything is green and submarine
And no one showed us to the land
And no one knows the where’s or why’s
But something stirs and something tries
And starts to climb towards the light
a favour (with “u”!), madamski cafonski: will you please post pink floyd (on the youtube) playing the above from the live at pompeii (10:20 version)?
why isn’t there “gain of function” research for schools?
why isn’t there “gain of function” research for hospitals?
why isn’t there “gain of function” research for parks?
why isn’t there “gain of function” research for the arts?
why isn’t there “gain of function” research for bridges, roads and railways?
why isn’t there “gain of function” research for ethics?
edison was a jenius.
obama’s party will be fine. all the attendees are so repulsive that they have autogenerated social distancers, and thus could not get within 6 feet (2 metres just to be safe!) of each other even if they tried.
d benton: hahaha, when i ask people, “how ya doin?”, if they reply, “livin’ the dream”, i usually say, “better than the nightmare.”
i guess i’ll have to find a new retort.
99.999% of dentists recommend saddam for voters who chew vaccines!
what i still can’t fathom is how people can accept (beyond reasonable salaries) all that money for something that is supposed to be necessary for the survival of humanity.
“what?! you’re drowning? the life preserver? sure. got 25 bucks?”
what’s gonna happen if it turns out the cuban vaccines are the only ones that work?
hcq is given to lupus patients on a regular basis. these people aren’t the toughest. why ain’t they dead?
“nothing yet, sir. just need a moment to recalibrate..”
lieutenant jensen felt nervous. it had been 5 days since their last catch, and quotas are quotas. this stupid mall was the last place you’d find novaxx, and he wondered if the “brains” down at central had sent him here on goose chase just so he’d take a hit on his pension.
“ok, sir, looks like we’re good to go.”
“whatever, let’s get this over with.” jensen wanted nothing more than to sit down and have a coffee in the food court. novaxx were getting hard to find, not like the early days when bonuses and paid vacations were the norm.
“ok, zenick, start the scan”. and on they went.
“well, i…”, mumbled zenick. “lieutenant, sir. looks like we got three right over there.”
“no way. show me. shoot. good work, zenick. everybody ready? ok, let’s go”
the stunsticks were always jensen’s favourite part.
it was a good day for isolator team 3, omega. a good day for all.
perhaps before you quote more this or that, you should give dr. varon a call. he’s actually touched humans with covid. and then he watches them leave the hospital.
give ’em a call:
Dr. Joseph Varon,
Dorrington Medical Associates
2219 Dorrington St, Houston, TX, 77030
dear, dr. fauci,
well, you’ve got me kinda grouci,
‘cause you’ve locked me to my couci,
with your bigbad, bigbad ouci.
now, my heart is kinda slouci,
and i want my life back nowci,
but you’ve got your new cashcowci,
fillin’ up your golden pouci.
while we sit and watch thy holy thouci,
you’re just watchin’ the ol’ dowci,
cause for pfizer, you, sir, took a vowci,
that they’d take that shot and howci.
well, some of us here smell a plot,
and so we say, sir, “thank you, not”.
dear, dr. fauci, oh, please let us be,
go tend your garden and set us free.
many claims from many clams.
pzifer says “reduces symptoms only” [kinda quotes]
spinners say “stops transmission, ends pandemic, gives you your life back”
you haven’t lost your brain, upstate (nice country, btw. fingerylakes and good cheese) – one of the main objectives of this “exercise” is to leave as many people as confused as possible.
Society can tolerate a small number of people
••• just sometimes, it seems.
not vaccinating their children for measles,
••• that’s risky. the measles vaccine was developed over many years and tested many more. not exactly warped speed
for example, because outbreaks cannot occur so long as the vast majority are inoculated.
••• go science!
But without herd immunity for SARS-CoV-2
••• what about cats? ferrets? deer? that virus is schneaky!
the refuseniks are on their own.
••• well, at least we don’t have to hang around empathyless beings such as thyself.
They are facing an endemic disease
••• you too, friend.
••• i was hoping they’d put depleted uranium in the shots..
nothing but worming tablets
••• safe and effective. like nobel prize, safe and effective. like save millions of lives with billions of doses effective.
and excessive faith in their immune system.
••• mine worked great when my wife was sick for six weeks. if only we could have gotten some dewormers..
That is their choice
••• not if you have your way.
••• fancy. do you get paid extra for such neat-o words?
we should deter gullible people
from being pulled into their orbit,
••• seems like sputnik’s orbit is a little safer. still, i’m kinda down to earth.
we should not coerce them.
••• i believe you don’t believe that.
There is no free ride this time.
••• what?! isn’t that what THE VACCINE (ALL HAIL!) is for?!
They alone will face the consequences of their actions.
••• ouch. you may not believe in karma, but karma believes in you.
“take my vaccine,
look upstateNYer, a two liner. ;+]
(uh, why did it log me out when i posted?)
anyhoo, i think i remember what i wrote..
to upstateNYer: @darned kids: you come up with a lot of awesome one-liners, too many to acknowledge each of them, but they are all appreciated. 🙂
thanks. as to the omnipost, i do apologize. it’s been a long time since i could comment amongst rational people. i had written more on this topic, but wordpress squeezed it out like yesterday’s orange.
anyhoo, i like the fool’s role – i understand facts and figures, and can even write consecutive sentences, but my inner self is just kinda goofy. ol’ willie said it best: “Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.”
unfortunately, the rarest of earths is the one we are using up way too fast.
“it’s good to tell them won’ting is ok. hear them out, listen to their theories with an understanding ear. then stick the needle in their pathetic limb.”
not appalachia, ireland.
ever look at west virginia and kentucky from a satellite view? the mountaintop removal scars look like powdery mildew on a zucchini leaf.
hmmmm, i wonder if neem works on peabody, too.
one must look at the picture
healthing DOT ca SLASH diseases-and-conditions/coronavirus/vaccine-for-coronavirus/vaccine-hesitancy
thanks, wes. my dad still burns coal. lotsa people do where he lives. the stuff looks so cool in the stove, like a crystal ball peering in on mordor.