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Byron In Chinatown, Pell Street, New York 1900

 

Greek Mothers, Grandmas and Wives to Enforce Quarantine As Police Struggle (GR)
White House Predicts 100,000 To 240,000 Will Die In US From Coronavirus (CNBC)
Putin Asked Trump If He Needed Help & He Accepted (RT)
How To Rescue Our Coronavirus-Infected Economy From Collapse (Richard Vague)
Obama’s Failure To Resupply Respirators In Federal Stockpile (JTN)
Do I Have to Pay My Rent or Mortgage During the Pandemic? (DB)
Will Shift To Distance Learning Reshape American Education? (JTN)
Should All Americans Be Wearing Face Masks? (JTN)
Fed Will Do ‘Whatever It Takes’ To Help US Economy Likely In Recession (R.)
US Virus Cases Off The Scale – But People Can Build Movement From This (MoA)
China Starts To Report Asymptomatic Coronavirus Cases (R.)
How Disinformation Really Works: Russian COVID19 Aid To Italy Smeared (RT)

 

 

The US is slowly coming to terms with the numbers representing its reality. And unlike fast food, they need to be fed the news in little bites.

 

 

Cases 872,777 (+ 73,054 from yesterday’s 799,723)

Deaths 43,271 (+ 4,551 from yesterday’s 38,720)

 

 

 

From Worldometer yesterday evening -before their day’s close-.

 

 

From Worldometer -NOTE: mortality rate for closed cases is at 19% –

 

 

From SCMP:

 

 

From COVID2019Live.info:

 

 

A good representation by Jo Michell of how the FT graph (see below) can be made clearer by tweaking between log scale and linear scale.

Log scale corona:

 

 

Linear scale corona:

 

 

 

 

Best story of the day for this day.

Greek Mothers, Grandmas and Wives to Enforce Quarantine As Police Struggle (GR)

Greek Prime Minister Kiriakos Mitsotakis who was among the first EU leaders to implement a strict quarantine in Greece, in now transferring the authority of enforcing the quarantine to Greek women. The decision took most by storm but police sources say it was planned since a few weeks ago, when police was needed to help in hospitals in vital positions for the fight against Coronavirus. The PM made his decision known with a tweet in the early hours of Wednesday:

“Police will continue to assist in enforcing the quarantine if needed on a case by case basis, but this won’t be its primary responsibility,” a Greek official clarified. The amendment to the current quarantine law transfers the power of issuing the necessary permits primarily to mothers and grandmothers, as well as wives and sisters where there in no mother or grandmother.


“A checkpoint on Patission street. Groups of 3-4 women will be assembling in each neighbourhood during rush-hour to check cars and individuals if they are on the street legally.” Credit: Greek Government handout

“Women have been defending the Greek household for thousands of years, since the Ancient times when every Greek woman was the protector of ‘estia’” noted the President of the Hellenic Republic Katerina Sakellaropoulou. It is also true that women and especially Greek women are also experts on discovering germs and dirt where you think there is none, so this might be another skill that comes in handy. “If one person of the household is infected the whole family is in danger, notes Antonia Parisi who sees this as a necessary step for a family’s wellbeing. “Women are best to protect the family” adds the shop owner and mother of two from Piraeus, Greece.


[..] some Greeks are not happy by the move. Most complain that Greek mothers and wives are way stricter in accepting fair reasoning to go out during a pandemic. “I don’t know if I will ever see the light of the day,” says Petros Kakavas from Peristeri, Athens who in absence of a mother and a grandmother has to ask his wife for permission to leave the house. In ancient Sparta the male fighters’ health was a responsibility of their mothers and wives. It is since then, we have the saying behind every strong man there is an even stronger woman. But sometimes history just repeats itself.

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I got a lot of criticism on my Fauci article 2 days ago, thought I merely connected two things he said over the space of two days, which meant 200 million Americans would become infected. That number is still not mentioned for some reason, but soon it will have to be. For now 240,000 deaths are the new normal.

White House Predicts 100,000 To 240,000 Will Die In US From Coronavirus (CNBC)

President Donald Trump prepared Americans for a coming surge in coronavirus cases, calling COVID-19 a plague and saying the U.S. is facing a “very, very painful two weeks.” “This could be a hell of a bad two weeks. This is going to be a very bad two, and maybe three weeks. This is going to be three weeks like we’ve never seen before,” Trump said at a White House press conference Tuesday. White House officials are projecting between 100,000 and 240,000 deaths in the U.S. with coronavirus fatalities peaking over the next two weeks. “When you look at night, the kind of death that has been caused by this invisible enemy, it’s incredible.” The U.S. has more coronavirus cases than any other country across the globe with 184,000 confirmed infections, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

New York has now become the new epicenter of the outbreak in the world with 75,795 confirmed cases as of Tuesday morning, more reported infections than China’s Hubei province where the coronavirus emerged in December. Earlier in the day, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said the outbreak in the state may not peak for three weeks. “I’m tired of being behind this virus. We’ve been behind this virus from day one,” the governor said in Albany. “We underestimated this virus. It’s more powerful, it’s more dangerous than we expected.” Trump, who grew up near New York City’s Elmhurst hospital in Queens, said no one can believe officials are setting up refrigerator trucks as temporary mortuaries outside the hospital. Trump said New York “got a late start” in rolling out its mitigation efforts.

New York City is setting up a handful of makeshift field hospitals to house coronavirus patients at the Jacob K. Javits Center, in Central Park and at the tennis courts in Queens that host the U.S. Open. De Blasio said the city is working with the federal government, the hotel industry and various other businesses to turn other buildings into potential medical facilities. More than 1,000 people in New York City alone have already died from the coronavirus, according to data updated at 5 p.m. ET by the NYC Health Department. “This is going to be the roughest three weeks we’ve ever had in this country,” Trump said. “I wanted as few as a number of people to die as possible. And that’s all we’re working on.”

US coronavirus deaths:

3/1 2
3/2 6
3/3 9
3/4 11
3/5 12
3/6 17
3/7 19
3/8 21
3/9 26
3/10 31
3/11 38
3/12 41
3/13 49
3/14 58
3/15 65
3/16 87
3/17 111
3/18 149
3/19 195
3/20 263
3/21 323
3/22 413
3/23 541
3/24 704
3/25 938
3/26 1195
3/27 1588
3/28 2043
3/29 2419
3/30 3004
Now 4076

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“At least 400 people died TODAY in New York because of the coronavirus.

We have refrigerated trucks now set up all over the city to hold the bodies.

The morgues are at capacity.

Absolutely heartbreaking day.”

Putin Asked Trump If He Needed Help & He Accepted (RT)

A cargo plane loaded with medical supplies and protection equipment may depart for the US by the end of Tuesday, the Kremlin said, after a phone call between US President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The issue of protective gear was raised during the Monday phone talks, with Putin asking if the US needed help and Trump accepting, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Tuesday. Moscow suggested the aid in anticipation that the US will be able to return the favor if necessary, once its manufacturers of medical and protective equipment catch up with demand, Peskov said. The current situation “affects everyone without exception and is of a global nature,” he added. “There is no alternative to acting together in the spirit of partnership and mutual assistance.”


On Monday, Trump told reporters at the White House press briefing that “Russia sent us a very, very large planeload of things, medical equipment, which was very nice.” The comment left everyone scratching their heads, as no one in the US seemed to know anything about the plane in question. It appears the US president was referring to the aid arranged on the phone call as something that had already happened. Peskov chastised “some of the American side” who “at least did not contribute to the prompt resolution of technical issues” regarding the agreed-upon delivery, which could explain the delay. Official data shows the US has been among the nations hardest-hit by the Covid-19 pandemic, with almost 175,000 confirmed cases and 3,416 deaths as of Tuesday afternoon – overtaking China, where the contagion originated in December. Italy still has the highest death toll in the world, at 12,428.

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Steve Keen: “an editorial in The Hill by Richard Vague, who is Pennsylvania’s acting Secretary of Banking and Securities. Richard was a highly successful banker, the co-founder of two major personal-finance-oriented companies Juniper Financial, and First USA Bank, and then CEO of the energy marketing company Energy Plus. He is a patron and a close friend. He is the author of “A Brief History of Doom” (2019), which I regard as the best history of financial crises ever written–far better than Kindleberger and Mackay.”

How To Rescue Our Coronavirus-Infected Economy From Collapse (Richard Vague)

The U.S. government should implement a program of monthly checks of $1,000 for three months — a timeframe which could be extended — to individuals above 18 and below some income threshold, say $200,000. A one-time check is not enough. The continuity of these payments is the most central, critical recommendation. Even if Americans stay cooped up, they can and should be encouraged to spend across the board, including on things like restaurant gift certificates, since the restaurant industry alone now estimates up to 7 million job losses. Even ten years after the Great Recession, households and businesses still have near-record levels of debt and, with this GDP collapse, will now be drowning in that debt.

The U.S. government should institute an immediate three-month moratorium on payments of mortgages, credit cards and student debt, along with a similar moratorium policy for business loan payments. This should be extended beyond three months if necessary. Having spent much of my career in banking, I view this approach as feasible, as long as regulators have the guidance to allow it. As part of this, the federal government would implement this policy for government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, for government-guaranteed student loans and other lending programs that have its full or partial backing; the loans could be extended or restructured to accommodate this, and borrowers could continue to pay if they chose. Regulators also should work with the industry to put together other prudent forms of loan forbearance.

The government should implement a three-month moratorium on all rent payments, and establish a fund to extend money to landlords to accommodate this rent forbearance. It should implement a three-month moratorium on all federal tax payments, which could be extended if necessary. It should commit to cover all healthcare costs associated with the coronavirus, structured such that care providers can bill the government directly so no forms or reimbursements would be required of individuals. It also will be necessary to provide capital support for select, troubled industries beyond the airline, hotel and cruise ship industries. This part does not need to be a handout; it can take the form of a preferred equity investment. It will soon need to provide substantial support to states and local governments. This program will not provide a result that is perfect in its fairness, but the need to move quickly far outweighs that consideration.

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From a right wing source. A different view on this topic: “On March 1, 2003, the NPS became the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) program managed jointly by DHS and HHS. With the signing of the BioShield legislation, the SNS program was returned to HHS for oversight and guidance. In 2018, oversight of Strategic National Stockpile was transferred to HHS/ASPR from HHS/CDC.”

What does the move from CDC to Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response entail?

Obama’s Failure To Resupply Respirators In Federal Stockpile (JTN)

The Strategic National Stockpile, America’s giant medical storage closet for a terrorist or biological crisis, once boasted more than 100 million respirator masks to protect doctors, nurses and other frontline health care workers in case of a contagion. But when the COVID-19 pandemic started a few months ago, the supply had dwindled down to just 12 million fitted masks, known as N95 respirators, and 30 million surgical masks, a supply deemed to be less than 2 percent of what the nation would need for full-blown pandemic. The tale of how such a critical supply lapsed, leading the Trump administration to scramble for 500 million new masks in the midst of pandemic, is one of government neglect and competing priorities that began in 2009.

That’s when the Obama administration drew down nearly 97 million of the masks to deal with the H1N1 swine flu pandemic, effectively protecting frontline medical workers from a virus that infected more than 60 million Americans. But when it was over, the administration decided not to fully restock the respirators, choosing to spend its $600 million annual budget for the stockpile on other priorities such as key drugs and vaccines to deal with smallpox, anthrax and the like, experts said. There is really “no answer why the supplies were not replenished because the N95 masks are invaluable tools for preparedness and it was important that they be restocked,” said Charles Johnson, President of International Safety Equipment Association, whose members make supplies for the stockpile.

In the end, Johnson said, the Obama administration chose to use its “limited funds” in other ways and “made the best choices at the time even though his association and others periodically restated their calls to replenish” the N95 masks. That trend continued in the early Trump years as well. The Clinton administration first began to examine a national plan to respond to pandemics and create the federal stockpile in 1990s. But the formal National Strategy for Pandemic Influenza was not officially published until 2005 during the George W. Bush administration, following the anthrax scare in 2001 and the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in 2002.

[..] According to a Center for Disease Control report published after the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, 39 million N95 masks were initially distributed from the stockpile, followed by 59.5 million more in second wave. According to Johnson, the stockpile originally was about 100 million masks. From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, there were over 60 million cases of H1N1 requiring 274,304 hospitalizations and resulting in 12,469 deaths in the United States. After the H1N1 virus slowed down in 2010, according to Johnson, “it was important to restock.” That did not happen as the national stockpile budget focused on other priorities deemed higher.

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Literally every single state appears to have different rules?!

Do I Have to Pay My Rent or Mortgage During the Pandemic? (DB)

As March winds down, at least 250 million Americans have been told to stay home or “shelter in place” to help stop the spread of COVID-19. Problem is, many can’t help wondering if they can still afford a place to shelter in—if they ever could. Long before the coronavirus pandemic, generous swaths of the United States faced an affordable housing crisis. With millions of Americans losing their jobs and millions more facing unemployment in the near future thanks to a concerted economic shutdown geared at reining in the disease, talk of rent strikes and freezes are in the air.

The Trump administration recently nodded to the problem by ordering a foreclosure moratorium on single-family home mortgages backed by the Federal Housing Administration or obtained through government-owned lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Fannie and Freddie have also offered forbearance for borrowers experiencing hardship. And the finance giants have dangled payment relief to indebted apartment building owners who grant respite to renters, a move the Federal Housing Finance Agency estimates could affect 43 percent of the market in multifamily leases. Then there’s the $2 trillion stimulus bill that passed last week, which contains language forbidding evictions and late charges on any property receiving virtually any federal aid.

It also permits those owing money to Fannie or Freddie to request up to six months of forbearance, though it leaves the onus on borrowers to do so. If your home doesn’t fall under one of these categories or programs, and you’re wondering if you owe money to your landlord or lender, the answer is probably yes—at least for now. Still, some state and local governments have moved to stem evictions and foreclosures for everyone, and a few are even freezing rent and mortgage payments entirely. Here’s a breakdown of COVID-19 rules on housing across every state and many large metropolitan areas. This story will be updated as events warrant.

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Like, make it even worse?

Will Shift To Distance Learning Reshape American Education? (JTN)

It likely represents one of the most ambitious, albeit uncoordinated, educational experiments in history: Can you successfully digitize an entire country’s higher education industry very nearly overnight? And if so, what does that say about the future of distance learning? Where does it go from here? Distance education itself is already widespread throughout the United States: The National Center for Education Statistics estimates that in the fall of 2017 there were well over 6.5 million American students enrolled in online programs, nearly a third of all postsecondary students in the country. Nearly half of those were exclusively enrolled in online programs; slightly more than half had “at least one” online course.

When they hear of online education, most people might picture private, for-profit corporations, the ones that build vanilla, office park-like campuses in the suburbs of American cities and whose commercials pop up regularly on network television and YouTube advertisements: Strayer, the University of Phoenix, DeVry University. Yet those establishments form a relatively small minority of the overall online education industry: the NCES says the vast majority of students who attend virtual classrooms do so at more traditional institutions. Not even 15% of all online attendance is done at private, for-profit organizations.

Distance education, then, is very much a concern for legacy institutions, including those known for their idyllic and venerated campus experiences: Schools like Harvard and Princeton and Northwestern and Chicago all have their own exclusively online divisions, while more and more state and regional schools are expanding their digital opportunities. Indeed, the existence of those programs is likely why many American schools were able to transition with (relative) ease to online learning environments. A vital question to ask, then, is: Does this near-total transition to online learning suggest an upcoming major shift in the distance education economy? Will schools be able to use this monumental adjustment to expand online learning and perhaps fundamentally reshape American higher education?

Dr. Wallace Boston, the president of the private, for-profit, online American Public University System, says yes. “I believe we will see an uptick in distance education” following the pandemic, he told Just the News. “The most likely reason that we will see an uptick is that many institutions will want to keep some form of online instruction and infrastructure in the event that this pandemic recycles through again or that there is another event that might require social distancing or quarantines,” he argued. “Some may even view online offerings as strategic opportunities for their institution.”

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Before or after they’ve been tested?

Should All Americans Be Wearing Face Masks? (JTN)

[California] Gov. Gavin Newsom Tuesday said that the state is considering guidance around whether people beyond the medical profession should wear some sort of mask or face covering, including in professions like grocery store workers. The science is incomplete in this area, according to Newsom, and there is a concern that people will think masks are a replacement for social distancing, which they aren’t. Surgeon General Jerome Adams has said that the practice often leads to increased touching of one’s face and can produce a “false sense of security,” adding that the World Health Organization and the CDC have reaffirmed in the last few days is that they do not recommend the general public wear masks.

“The virus is not spreading in the general community,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the Center for the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said in a Jan. 30 briefing. “We don’t routinely recommend the use of face masks by the public to prevent respiratory illness. And we certainly are not recommending that at this time for this new virus.” As the cases of COVID-19 grows across America and supplies like face masks and gowns are in short supply, health experts say implementing guidance may take masks away from the health care providers who are on the frontlines of the pandemic. However others believe that masks, even homemade masks, would help reduce the risk of unknowingly spreading the virus through coughs, sneezes, even yawns or simple conversation.

George Gao, director-general of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention said in an interview with Science magazine that “when you speak, there are always droplets coming out of your mouth.” “The big mistake in the U.S. and Europe, in my opinion, is that people aren’t wearing masks,” Gao said. Meanwhile, Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on Tuesday that the White House coronavirus task force is also seriously considering guidance that Americans wear masks. “The idea of getting a much more broad, community-wide use of masks outside of the health care setting is under very active discussion at the task force. The CDC group is looking at that very carefully,” Fauci told CNN.

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Poor choice of words perhaps? To hide the emptiness implied?

Fed Will Do ‘Whatever It Takes’ To Help US Economy Likely In Recession (R.)

The Federal Reserve is ready to do more to help a U.S. economy ground to a sudden halt as businesses shutter and people stay home to slow the coronavirus pandemic, San Francisco Fed President Mary Daly said on Tuesday. “The Federal Reserve is prepared to do whatever it takes within our powers to ensure that we are part of the solution of shoring up people over the virus, shoring up the American economy and putting us in the best position to grow again once the virus recedes,” Daly said in an interview with Yahoo Finance. “If we do the right thing and shelter in place and curb the spread of the virus, the economy will be in the best position to bounce back.”


With the coronavirus infecting tens of thousands of Americans and killing hundreds each day, three-quarters of the U.S. population are under orders to stay home except for essential trips to slow the spread of the virus. With businesses laying off millions of workers as demand dries up and states ordering non-essential businesses to close, the economy is likely already in recession, Daly said. The Fed’s job, along with that of the U.S. government that on Friday finalized a $2.2 trillion rescue package, is to provide the support to financial markets, businesses and people who are doing their duty to boost the public health, Daly said. Once the pandemic threat has passed, the Fed’s programs and low interest rates will help drive the economic recovery, she said.

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FTCoronaGraphMar31

Is Moon of Alabam going full hippie on us?

US Virus Cases Off The Scale – But People Can Build Movement From This (MoA)

When John Burn-Murdoch created that daily updated chart he did not anticipate that any country would have more than a 100,000 total cases. That was a reasonable assumption as China, with 1.4 billion inhabitants, stopped the epidemic with less than 85.000 total cases even when it was surprised by the outbreak. As of now the U.S. has 164.435 known cases. It will reach a total number of several dozens of millions and will have several hundreds of thousands of dead caused by the covid-19 disease. Most but not all of those who will die from it will have one or more co-morbid diseases.

The number of death in the U.S. will likely be higher than elsewhere because obesity, diabetes and heart problems are more prevalent in the U.S. than in most other countries. Another reason why the U.S. will have a larger than necessary outbreak is wide mistrust in the authority of the state. A significant number of people will reject stay at home orders or other measures the authorities will have to take. Then there is this: Pouya Alimagham @iPouya – 0:48 UTC · Mar 31, 2020 “The regime doesn’t want to antagonize the religious classes. Thus, it isn’t doing anything about the fact that some religious sites remain open & clerics are encouraging worshippers to come & pray. These gatherings risk exploding #COVID19. I’m talking about the US, not #Iran.”

The U.S. also has many people without health insurance. The many newly laid off people will additionally lose theirs. These people will avoid seeing a doctor or to go to a hospital as the enormous costs would ruin them. The for-profit health system will reject sick persons who are unlikely to be able to pay their bills. The cases of people who die from such circumstance should be put into the death by lack of money category instead of being blamed on something else. Congress has failed to take the necessary measures and to give everyone access to free tests and free care. This will come back to bite everyone as it makes sure that the disease will circulate longer and stronger than in other rich countries.

Every crisis is also a chance. Congress has used it to again loot the people and to push more money to the rich. At the same time the powers that be have denied universal healthcare and paid sick leave to those who need it. The covid-19 epidemic is a chance to change that. There are already a number of strikes at Amazon and similar companies over work safety, health care and pay. Rent strikes must now follow. When the bills come in for families with covid-19 cases many more people will get more interested in medicare for all. A movement can be build from these issues. The Sanders campaign should provide a (virtual) platform for it.

The U.S. has enough money to pay for the security of its people. Security is not a military issue. A hugely expensive aircraft carrier with sick sailors is worth nothing. Pandemics are a real security issues and the U.S. has left its people defenseless against them. Cut the aircraft carriers and other insane military spending and invest it in the health of the people. That message will soon be widely understood. We can all help to reinforce it.

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Q: how useless is this if you test only some people? Can’t very well adopt the western idea of testing only those who look sick.

China Starts To Report Asymptomatic Coronavirus Cases (R.)

Chinese health authorities began on Wednesday reporting on asymptomatic cases of the coronavirus as part of an effort to allay public fears that people could be spreading the virus without knowing they are infected with it. China, where the coronavirus emerged late last year, has managed to bring its outbreak under control and is easing travel restrictions in virus hot spots. But there are concerns that the end of lockdowns will see thousands of infectious people move back into daily life without knowing they carry the virus, because they have no symptoms and so have not been tested. Up to now, the number of known asymptomatic cases has been classified, and it is not included in the official data, though the South China Morning Post newspaper, citing unpublished official documents, recently said it was more than 40,000.


In an effort to dispel public fears about hidden cases of the virus, the government has this week ordered health authorities to turn their attention to finding asymptomatic cases and releasing their data on them. Health authorities in Liaoning province were the fist to do so on Wednesday, saying the province had 52 cases of people with the coronavirus who showed no symptoms as of March 31, they said in a statement on a provincial government website. Hunan province said it had four such cases, all of them imported from abroad, it said in a statement on its website. The National Health Commission is due to start reporting aggregate, national data on asymptomatic cases later on Wednesday.

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Unthinkable now, but soon Americans will be thanking Putin, and thanking Trump.

How Disinformation Really Works: Russian COVID19 Aid To Italy Smeared (RT)

With over 11,000 deaths and more than 100,000 cases of Covid-19, Italy is currently a country which feels under siege. But this is no impediment to the think tank racket twisting an offer of support for its propaganda purposes. Here’s what happened. The weekend before last, Vladimir Putin called Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte. During the conversation, Conte asked for help, in fighting coronavirus, according to the Kremlin readout which hasn’t been contradicted by Italian officials. Let’s be clear from the outset, there was undoubtably a strong PR, as well as practical, element to Russia’s assistance. However, there were also advantages to Rome from this approach, as the move may have helped to concentrate a few minds among its traditional allies.

Moscow sent teams of “doctors, protective gear and medical equipment” to the stricken country. The detail included 100 military virologists and epidemiologists, along with eight medical teams, according to Russian news outlets. Most importantly, it delivered 600 ventilators. A significant amount given Italy apparently had only about 5,000 of the devices. Indeed, a few days after the Putin/Conte call, the New York Times was writing about Italy’s “ventilator crisis.” There’s usually nothing like a bit of Russian influence to jolt EU and NATO elites into action. As mentioned above, no doubt this was also part of Conte’s reasoning. That said, it’s also worth mentioning that some other Europeans states have tried to help the Italians. Germany and France, in particular, took patients and sent supplies, despite dealing with outbreaks of their own. Yet, many in Italy feel they haven’t done enough.

A few days after the aid landed, a campaign began on Twitter to discredit the Russian initiative. The first I saw of it was a tweet from Oliver Carroll, of London’s Independent newspaper, who presumably speaks Italian (I don’t, so I am relying on his translation). “Some Italians are expressing unease about Putin’s Covid-19 emergency aid,” he wrote. “Acc(ording) to La Stampa, 80 percent of supplies (are) “useless,” (and) sources worry about high-ranking military officers now in (the) country. Russian soldiers (are) free to roam (in) Italy a few steps away from NATO,” the paper stated. “La Stampa says China sent masks (and) ventilators; (but) Russia sent irrelevant equipment used for bacteriological and chemical outbreaks,” Carroll added. “(There is a) belief that Russia … (is) not helping us only for great goodness of its people… now beginning to circulate in broad sectors, military and political.”

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    Byron In Chinatown, Pell Street, New York 1900   • Greek Mothers, Grandmas and Wives to Enforce Quarantine As Police Struggle (GR) • White House
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 1 2020]

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    V. Arnold
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    Byron In Chinatown, Pell Street, New York 1900

    Great photo; relevent even?

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    oxymoron
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    The education thing is a joke. It is a year or at least 6 months to do whatever, gaming, wanking, googling, annoying parents or maybe even learning to be useful around the house. I don’t see how it will be possible to make it happen so it works for all. There are so many young people with shitty parents or home situation, lack of access to ncessary bandwidth or technology etc. Just seems another rung on the ladder of class division or wealth inequality or whatever but hey go ahead all that E-Waste has been great for the fishermen eeking a living off the coast of Somalia and everyone loves a dash of antimony in their soil too.

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    oxymoron
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    On a more positive note, I have been catching more rats in my box trap (stealing chook food and fruit). They die a peaceful death then go in the Yabbie trap. We then harvest the fresh aquatic beasts (Cherax Destructor – if you care to google) and tonight my darling wife prepared homemade pasta of home-grown vegetables with Yabbie tails and Dill – deliscious – we had it with Chardonnay. So closing the loop just gets better and weirder. I guess the Polish peasant women would be like “why don’t you eat the rat?”. My answer is – I will when I have to wise ladies but until then…….

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    boscohorowitz
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    I am blessed by a sense of curiosity that leads me to places like TAE that lets me encounter intriguing souls like oxymoron who shares tales from beyond the pale with us. I envy you. The peasant Chinese called rats-as-food “household deer”. Like deer, they’re rough on gardens — and have a gamey taste, one presumes.

    We finally snagged some elastic (it has vanished from the shelves like TP had). Sewed two trial face masks last night. Way more work and much less airtight than my sock masks, which you can make in 2 minutes with scissors and something to hold the back end together — clothespin, office binder clips, Ace bandage holders (the best), anything — and there’s less air pressure directed at the filtration/diffusion surface area.

    Homemade Ethos

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    boscohorowitz
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    It’s fascinating watch the reality of a life form (CORVID-19) ignore our precious political theatrics and complexly stacked connivings, and topple them one by one.

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    zerosum
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    Mortality increase with the increase of testing.

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2020/03/us-virus-cases-are-off-the-scale-but-its-people-can-create-a-movement-from-it.html

    Will the USA numbers will go higher than …..
    1. the numbers from the poor countries that don’t test because they cannot give free tests and free care. (19%)
    2. the numbers from the countries, that cannot do ” social distancing”. (19%)
    3. the numbers from the countries, that cannot do “a lock down”. (19%)
    4. the numbers from the countries, that have less seniors. (19%)
    5. the numbers from the countries, that don’t wash their hand, use tp (19%)
    6. the numbers from the countries, of mortality from all causes from previous years. (19%)

    #56436

    boscohorowitz
    Participant
    #56437

    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    @boscohorowitz

    No, bosco. This should be your favorite from my beloved Nayvee and mother to me for 30 years. Then again, a goat, more specifically, Bill the Goat is the pet mascot of “me” alma mater.

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Exclusive-Captain-of-aircraft-carrier-with-15167883.php#

    Hunter S. Thompson provided the answer, apropos of our time.

    “when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro”

    #56438

    oxymoron.

    I’d recommend being a LOT more worried about WHAT is being taught in our education systems than about where or how. Once your very highest levels of education produce nothing but pawns in games, you”re pretty much done as a society, I would say.

    #56440

    zerosum
    Participant

    Mortality – Trick Question
    Did you see it?
    As of today’s mortality rate of 19%, everyone else, (81%), will get to survive no matter what damage was done to their society.
    Life expectancy, in any country, will not change because of the virus.

    #56441

    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Face it.
    You’re not part of their club. Kappa Beta Phi.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappa_Beta_Phi

    We’ve all been made to obsess over the gnat’s eyelash, blip on the radar screen of the Universe, coronavirus while billions are being driven into poverty….as the unimaginably rich reset the system for themselves. The theft, robbery, larceny was executed in plain view for all to witness. However, all of us have been conditioned to placidly accept rentiers issuing eviction notices and employers in the At Will Workplace terminating employees for any reason or no good reason at all.

    That system is not being reset or dismantled, but rather left in place along with your credit card, student loan, underwater mortgage and car loan debts.

    Because bankers, men in suits, personal responsibility and coronavirus

    #56442

    zerosum
    Participant

    Dr D Rich

    Just think about the positive outcomes that there will be because of the virus FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO CAN BORROW OR THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE CASH.

    OVERTIME FOR MEDICAL WORKERS

    FIRE SALES ON OFFICE EQUIPMENT, RESTAURANT FURNISHING, CHEAP RENT ON PRIME LOCATIONS, VACATION HOME SALES. ETC.

    Supply and demand heaven.

    #56443

    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Dr. D Rich: Goats make me smile. Remarks addresszed to me that start with “no” and then tell me what should earn my happy attention, don’t. I don’t do well with the “imperative mood” in grammar choices. ONe might say that you literally got my goat.

    #56444

    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Apropos of nothing but the very best: at last! concert footage from the Wayne Shorter Quartet from its seminal year!

    These guys literally reinvented acoustic jazz as an art form encompassing all that jazz had ever been into something beyond genre, almost beyond what most people think of music… they’re improvising in strict tempo to precise song with written chord changes and basic melody lines, not free-forming all over each other.

    One of Atlantis’ great gleaming chord changes.

    One last note to the Doc Ds among us: yes, we know the savage elites are very powerful at present and very savage. That doesn’t mean they’ll be able to hold on to Jackie Squatt as reality reasserts itself in a swarm of chaotic attractors imposing some new gradual order sweeping them along the tsunami’s cpourse like everyone else.

    You may enjoy scaring yourself over and over with these immense bogie-monsters, and all of us here enjoy a bit of fearful thrill, but there’s room for not always deeming failure inevitable in this life. Really.

    Monsters of the Id

    Monsters of the id
    No longer stayin’ hid
    And terrors of the night
    Are out in broad daylight
    No need to knock on wood
    Don’t stop to say a prayer
    It won’t do any good
    They’re multiplyin’ in the air
    Creatures of the deep
    Are going without sleep
    And phantoms of the dark
    Have their own place to park
    No need to lock the door
    They’re sprouting through the cracks
    They’re making room for more
    They’re deputizing maniacs
    Prehistoric ghouls
    Are making their own rules
    And resurrected huns
    Are passin’ out the guns
    No need to cause a fuss
    Don’t go and make a scene
    They know what’s best for us
    They’re fightin’ fire with gasoline
    The creatures from the swamp
    Rewrite their own Mein Kampf
    Neanderthals amuck
    Just tryin’ to make a buck
    And goblins and their hags
    Are out there wavin’ flags
    Oh, when will we be rid
    Of monsters of the id
    Monsters of the id

    #56445

    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    ‘One of Atlantis’ great gleaming chord changes.’

    Wow. I was thinking ‘sunset rays’ not ‘chord changes’ but was still also thinking about Shorter’s music. It’s like a racetrack for squirrels in cages inside my mind. Oh well A-OOgah!!!

    #56446

    Dr. D
    Participant

    The numbers from China are fake, some outlets refuse to post them. Every other nation has unique reporting structures, whether higher, lower, or indifferent – and this is beyond the lack of testing all over.

    However, I’ve been hearing new U.S. rules to declare any respiratory death as a COVID death primary, and “emphysema” or such secondary. This will quickly and wildly inflate the numbers, as we’ve seen. Doctors may not participate, but the come in the next day and see that their report has been altered by administration. Who checks? Who has time?

    This is in addition to more provable media which is printing stories saying “local woman dies of COVID” when no one has called the family and they died of Alzheimer’s, long coming. A number of those incidents, uncaring, unretracted, total lies. And why? Well we know the media calls nobody and are pathological liars and drama-inventors from birth, but this seems beyond even their everyday.

    So…somebody know what’s going on?

    #56447

    zerosum
    Participant

    “So…somebody know what’s going on?”

    How to keep something secret? Tell nobody.
    A conspiracy requires multiple actors. It would not be a secret.
    Coordinating multiple action by multiple actors is complicated. Plans would fall apart in their execution.

    The elites are not talking to us. We don’t know. We are only speculating.
    There are a lot of speculations that do not and will not compute.
    Its better to find/look for opportunities then find/look for the negative course of action from our speculations.

    It’s not us rifraf.

    #56448

    John Day
    Participant

    Busy work day yesterday, heading in for afternoon clinic, then big days tomorrow and Friday.
    April is Peak Month.
    http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/04/april-flu-day.html

    John Prine, the Mark Twain of American songwriters, is in the hospital on a ventilator with coronavirus.
    “Stable”, says his wife.
    Here is a prayer he recorded a long time ago:

    “Sailors Don’t Need To Die”: Captain Of Nuclear Carrier With Over 100 COVID-19 Cases Pleads For Help
    In an astounding plea for help, the captain of the nuclear aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt has urged top command of the US Navy to take drastic action after more than 100 sailors aboard the ship have been infected with the coronavirus.
    More than a week ago it started with a handful of COVID-19 cases, which by the end of the week spiked to 36, causing the West Pacific-deployed carrier to dock at a naval station at Guam, ordering infected crew members out of the some 5,000 total into makeshift quarantine facilities, including a basketball gym hastily transformed for that purpose.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/captain-nuclear-carrier-over-100-covid-19-cases-aboard-pens-plea-help

    All across America, store shelves are emptying and people are becoming increasingly frustrated because they can’t get their hands on needed supplies.
    Most Americans are blaming “hoarders” for the current mess, but it is actually much more complicated than that. Normally, Americans get a lot of their food from restaurants. In fact, during normal times 36 percent of all Americans eat at a fast food restaurant on any given day. But now that approximately 75 percent of the U.S. is under some sort of a “shelter-in-place” order and most of our restaurants have shut down, things have completely changed. Suddenly our grocery stores are being flooded with unexpected traffic, and many people are buying far more than usual in anticipation of a long pandemic. Unfortunately, our food distribution systems were not designed to handle this sort of a surge, and things are really starting to get crazy out there…
    Because of the coronavirus pandemic, more people are showing an interest in starting home gardens. Oregon State University‘s (OSU) Master Gardener program took notice of the growing interest.
    To help citizens who want to grow their own food, the university kindly made their online vegetable gardening course free until the end of April. OSU’s post on Facebook has been shared over 21,000 times.
    http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/supplies-are-starting-to-get-really-tight-nationwide-as-food-distribution-systems-break-down

    This vegetable gardening advice is free, too. The garden and gardener, this April morning,are pictured below.
    http://www.johndayblog.com/2016/07/liberty-garden-central-texas-climate.html

    #56449

    Uh oh… Sounds like that little white-haired doctor-man got some splainin to do to all the loony Lucys out there.

    #56450

    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    bm

    “Today’s Your Day for a Mac Now there are even more ways to love the classic Big Mac® taste. Get the new Little Mac™ or Double Big Mac now on Mobile Order & Pay. Order in the App, pass the line with a tap.”

    Winning, right?

    #56451

    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Well, I’ll be a poster from an old rodeo, JDay.

    #56452

    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Let’s ask the man in the street. Maybe he knows:

    Marching Song

    #56453

    Dr. D
    Participant

    Denninger:

    “even assuming that there are no ventilators available (e.g. we just “let it run”) current statistics are that a ventilator fails 85-90% of the time in the US — they failed 95% of the time in Wuhan.

    Failed, I remind you, means the person in question is dead.

    The premise that somehow “flattening the curve” means the total number of people will get this virus will be smaller is a lie.

    There are exactly three ways that happens: 1) The virus is hard enough to get and easy enough to identify before contagion, which is what happened with SARS and made it possible to contain it; 2) There is a vaccine and thus we can use that to obtain herd immunity to suppress the effective R0 below 1.0 or; 3) Enough people get the virus that R0 is suppressed via natural herd immunity.

    That’s it.

    If you suppress a virus with these measures you do not change this fact. You only change timing, and in addition you take all the economic and social damage from those mitigation measures. You do not change the total number of infections and, where medical interventions in the most-severe cases are ineffective 85-90% of the time, you also don’t change outcomes either.”
    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238752

    Everybody is going to get it.
    Without an economy, there is no medicine, nor any need.
    WE are the Dow.
    1971 + 49 = 2020

    #56454

    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    @ boscohorowitz
    Hahahahaha!!

    #56455

    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    The other aspect of flattening the curve is to slow the rate of more or less inevitable spread so that it doesn’t overwhelm (a word recently used in overwhelming number, it seems) the medical system not to mentin the economy which, outside of seasonally dependent vital stuff (agriculture) and necessary extraction/production (fill in your list an it please ye), can indeed be shut down for three months/whatever IF we use enlightened federal leadership to declare a three-month moratorium on on loans/rents due and pumps enough money to us peasants to keep the essential services funded.

    I thought we’d al;l gone over this stuff before.

    #56456

    From Recombinomics, concerning New York: “All 11 of the 14 newly released sequences are closely related to each other and sequences from patients in Italy. The two recent sets, as well as the initial four sequences, are heavily dominated by matches with Italy (30/34)”

    #56457

    ALERT!! ALERT!! Somebody inform the scamdemic police immediately! Truth is breaking out all over the world! We are in dire need of tests! We need more tests! More ventilators! Why don’t we have more ventilators?! Where’s the vaccine? We need a vaccine to kill the truth! Please hurry or we are ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!

    #56458

    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    A few thoughts in no particular order:

    ***You don’t impose, enforce or accelerate economic sanctions on other countries when its people are suffering the worldwide consequences of pandemic disease. Unless, of course, you are at War and then you drop Fat Man and Little Boy on two cities.

    ***You don”t hand over control of the FED and Treasury Department to a private entity, BlackRock unless your country is the vanquished foe in this contest.

    ***Nowhere in Nelson’s Pediatrics, Harrison’s or Cecil’s Internal Medicine and Sabiston’s Surgery textbooks does it say fork over $4.5 trillion dollars to banks and assorted economic elite as the first, second or last strike in a epidemiological war on a pandemic illness. Yet, here we are.

    ***John Paul Jones, Alfred Thayer Mahan and Arleigh Burke never advised the likes who command a United States aircraft to publicly surrender his ship and enlisted crew to a pandemic virus. Shit happens.

    ***You don’t place a failed former medical student who can’t pass either the National Boards or Pediatrics Boards in charge of a state’s larget healthcare system just because you confused Navy Medicine’s social promotion of him with success. But hey, sour grapes have a certain sound and taste.
    Unless the “Powers That Be” expect failure.

    ***You don’t isolate people from each other unless you want to remove nonverbal expressions and body language from the communication equation. They constructed a modern Tower of Babel almost with the sweep of a hand.

    ***In the enormous open air psychiatric ward they’ve constructed, will the numbers of the newly impoverished outnumber COVID-19 deaths 10-to-1 or 100-to-1 or will we just add those people to the coronavirus Worldometer?

    ***Unless of course, the plan is and always was planned obsolescence, but no longer at a snail’s pace. After all, human beings adapt given enough time as tough SOBs are wont to do.

    #56459

    OMG- from the video, concerning the panic-induced, synthetic hypochondriacs going in for a sniffle and crowding the medical facilities: just wait ’til allergy season gets going here in the states.

    #56460

    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    And literally as I wrote the DCA California acted their governor’s order. Who wants to bet David A. Tam is grandfathered in permanently once the smoke, er, I mean virus clears?

    DCA Impacts of Executive Order N-39-20

    On March 30, 2020 Governor Newsom issued Executive Order N-39-20, authorizing the Director of the Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) to waive any of the professional licensing requirements relating to healing arts licensees in Division 2 of the Business and Professions Code, and any accompanying regulations. This includes, but is not limited to, the examination, education, experience, and training requirements necessary to obtain and maintain licensure, and requirements governing the practice and permissible activities for licensees

    #56462

    zerosum
    Participant

    Who is the lender?

    Before the virus, all lender, elites, were maxed out, leveraged out, pretending to being able to lend.
    Therefore, a jubilee was required for the elites.

    Suddenly, all governments have found new lenders to lend new trillion of dollars.

    To whom do the loans get paid back?

    I’m not really expecting someone to tell me, an unwashed riraf, the name of those lenders.

    #56463

    Dr. D
    Participant

    A jubilee, however, we don’t yet know for whom. They would have it run as a bailout. But that bailout will be the world’s biggest trap if the currency swaps and the Fed, who will have all assets owned by November, will be taken over by the Treasury, and therefore the American people, to be distributed back to the nation at will.

    “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master – – that’s all.”

    Guess: the one with the Army: the Marine generals and their handpicked bankruptcy expert.

    We won’t know, but I don’t care either. I have no action items listed for the meantime.

    #56464

    Okay folks, everything’s fine. The previous alert has been cancelled. We’ve got real journalists on the job now. That outbreak of truth will soon be under control. As usual, it’s just those damned Ruskies getting up to their old tricks again.

    “As fast as the coronavirus has raced around the globe, it has been outpaced by a blinding avalanche of social media sorcery and propaganda related to the pathogen, much of it apparently originating in Russia,” the Washington Post editorial board warns. “As always when it comes to its relations with the West, Moscow’s main currency is disinformation, and it spends lavishly.”

    People’s Skepticism About Covid-19 Is The Fault Of The Lying Mass Media

    #56465

    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Thinking about that $2 trillion stimulus package, I looked up some data to put this amount of dollars into perspective.

    It’s more than the total amount of US dollars (physical currency) in circulation worldwide: $1.5 trillion.

    It’s much more than the total value of the US gold reserves (at $1600/ounce): $418 billion.

    It’s about half of the M1 Money Stock (“funds that are readily accessible for spending”) : $4 trillion

    It’s less than 10% of the US national debt: $23 trillion

    ……………..

    My calculation for the US gold reserve amounts to 261 million ounces, roughly one ounce of gold for every adult (over 18) in the US.

    This makes me think about the inherent value of an ounce of gold, compared to $1600 of extra money that the government decides to print.

    #56466

    neoh
    Participant

    “Greek Prime Minister Kiriakos Mitsotakis who was among the first EU leaders to implement a strict quarantine in Greece, in now transferring the authority of enforcing the quarantine to Greek women…”

    Things are going from bad to worse. So the PM designates that old ladies, as shown in the picture, allow their old lady friends to slide but penalize anything younger and prettier (since they are obviously trollops).
    I guess the US is only place with dumb politicians.

    #56467

    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    I think that, riff-raff or not, zerosum, those lenders have no names because they don’t exist, best I can tell.

    a) there is no stopping price discovery now. That is the essence of what we call The Reset.

    b) price discovery will return the actual relationship between nominative value markers (e.g., money), creating a barter economy whether we like it or not.

    c) barter economies are all about continual price discovery based on real goods and the real conditions affecting those goods

    d) in such a situation, there will be little interest in borrowing money from the entities who trashed same, and by then, those entities will be more or less known, if only by the named concept of ‘central banks’. But the typical corporation has lists of major stockholders, senior officers, and members of the board of directors. Some luxury survival bunkers will find themselves flooded/smoked out despite all their fancy gizmos.

    e) local banks will emerge, and locals will be very concerned with keeping money on track with the physical goods/energy resources/labor pools it represents, while the high visibility offered by localism will control such bubbles. Small banks may get foolish and crash but won’t infect others… and their managers will likely be hung or worse.

    f) this is typically where the banksters go abroad and restart their racket with the next nation/kingdom/whatever wanting to wax rich and powerful. (This narrative closely overlaps with what the more rabid empire-haters tend to call Zionist bankers, although Zion hardly holds a monopoly on this stuff.) But none of today’s nations will be in that position except Russia and probably some African/South American regions, and Russia/China will have first dibs on them since might makes right in geopolitics and they now wield considerably more might than all of Euromerica combined, because Euromerica is suffering from massive resource depletion. Money means little without adequate resources. Local banks and barter economy will be the norm in those places for some time.

    g) the only nation with adequate resource abundance and sound fiscal/financial policies is Russia, and Russia doesn’t want to lend us money because we have insufficient resources to pay them back with. To purchase from Russia, we will have to offer concrete goods in real-life barter value swaps. The exception to this might be them building nuclear power plants for us on something like a Rent To Own basis, payable in physical goods or specific markers thereof whose relationship to said goods will be closely monitored to avoid funny money hanky-panks.

    BlackRock already drained the economy good from 2008 until now. The economy is now like those fracked oil wells/tar sands operations: pert near empty and hardly worth scraping their bottoms for what’s left.

    It’s over for them just like it was over for Louis the 16th in 1789. And there are no available successors. The buck literally stops — and dies — here.

    Evangelical Xtians and similar Biblically-based End Times Rapturologists might consider this evidence that the End Times are upon us. Something like them is here with or without divine intervention.

    The only time Jesus is on record at giving in to His physical temper was when he encountered money-changers at the temple steps. Money changers had always been there, converting the various currencies moving through Israel at the time into local currency for donations and tithes to the temple priests. Nothing for JC to be pissed about.

    But there was also a nasty gold-silver inequity trade going on that is the basis, per my reading, of today’s bankster playbook, although actual silver/gold was basically done by the time China collapsed under the Empress Dowager, it’s lingering momentum moving through the British pound sterling then the post-WWII gold-backed dollar. I think that’s what tripped Jesus’ trigger.

    The petrodollar would’ve ben pretty good specie currency if we’d printed dollars based on known reserves and reliably predictable costs of extraction, since fossil fuels are what our modern scientific industrial civilization is based, but we didn’t do that. We blew bubbles, along with most of the resources necessary to continue enjoying such large populations living as we do, instead.

    The chances that my grandkids will be wearing animal skins and trading dried fish are too likely for my comfort level, but that is not an absurd projection. It’s on the spectrum of Plausible Outcomes.

    “And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.” — Matthew 21:12–13

    oh jeeziss fucking Xhrist!

    #56468

    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    As for the military: every war game shows them losing in a confrontation with a population of angry scared USA citizens. It didn’t work in Iraw and it won’t work here, although at first, people will probably welcome martial law. There’s a small chance they’ll use martial law wisely and morally, but then, I have penis enlargement pills older than your average young recruit, so I ain’t buying that gambling chit. Nuh-uh.

    #56469

    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    P.S. “Professor David Landry of the University of St. Thomas suggests that “the importance of the episode is signaled by the fact that within a week of this incident, Jesus is dead. Matthew, Mark, and Luke agree that this is the event that functioned as the ‘trigger’ for Jesus’ death.”[16]”

    The war with Mammon was offically on from then on, with Jesus as the first divine casualty, per that mythos.

    “The love of money is the root of all evil.” (some rabble-rouser with alleged super-powers)

    #56470

    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Jesus/Temple/Money-Changers-Lenders

    Wiki does a pretty good job on this one, it seems.

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