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VietnamVet wrote: Either North America falls apart into sick dysfunctional cartel run city states, or Democracy, the US Constitution and a working Union are restored.
I would really like to be more hopeful. “Democracy” is a buzz word used to fool voters to believe they actually have a say. See the last US Pres. election, or if one doesn’t like to think about that, the fact that in the US no poor person can be elected to anything in the State apparatus, as it takes a pile of money, donated by special interests to defend those interests, to achieve even minor visibility (leaving out getting the MSM on board, bribes, etc.) …It is all a sham.
Maybe there is some intermediary messy situation? If one or some States seceede, and concentrate on what is happening locally, and how to manage that, what to do, for the people, for themselves as ‘leaders’ (as there are always some rah-rah on the platform), how relations with neighboring States are to be managed (once outside the Federation), maybe something positive could be accomplished?
I don’t expect it, but it is one path forward. Allowing take-over by a foreign power is another, of course ppl hate that, but local labor is usually needed and paid – somewhat.
US Dpt. of Defense. Contracts for Aug. 2, 2021.
ARMY
Pfizer Inc., New York, New York, was awarded a $3,500,000,001 firm-fixed-price contract for the procurement of 500 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine for the purpose of international donation. Bids were solicited via the internet with one received. Work will be performed in New York, New York, with an estimated completion date of Dec. 31, 2022. Fiscal 2021 research, development, test and evaluation, Army funds in the amount of $3,500,000,001 were obligated at the time of the award. U.S. Army Contracting Command, Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland, is the contracting activity (W58P05-21-C-0002). (Awarded July 30, 2021)
https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Contracts/Contract/Article/2716710/
Why is the US paying 3.5 billion (if the sum is reported correctly, which it look like is, as the 1 at the end signals there is no ambiguity in the no. of zeros) to Pfizer to give vaxs away internationally?
To whom, where, for what purpose?
Herd immunity is not an appropriate and/or useful concept. Sars-Cov-2 is a corona virus, respiratory virus in humans (as far as we know..), and it won’t be stamped out by ‘vaxs.’ They don’t work at all, are a mega-scale commercial scam. Imho, whether ADE is having an effect, can’t be decided for now following the numbers, all of which are very dodgy, imho. It appears that now the MSM is touting that herd immunity can’t be attained because! ‘Variants’, not vaxs, anyway, and so it goes.
Waves is ridiculous as well (concept borrowed from the ‘Spanish’ flu), the virus circulates and is affected by multiple conditions that aren’t understood or properly analysed, documented: temperature, sunlight on people, pollution, movement of ppl, personal characteristics, public health measures, treatment of patients, which either kills, is of no use, or helps.. (not to mention the peculiar – manipulated – fudged statistics that impede serious analysis at every turn!) The Swiss MSM yesterday was touting fear of a 4th wave, while CH has only had 2, the journos can’t even count to 5… 😉
Risk-benefit analysis is a version of cost-benefit analysis, from the quasi-religious doctrinaire and prescriptive field of Economics. It shouldn’t be applied to health, doctoring, medecines, prophylaxis, which at their base are, or rest on, the personal integrity of those doing doctoring, via traditional obligations such as the Hippocratic oath, long-held principles, conventions, and for vaxs, the Nuremberg Code. All that has been pretty much swept away, bowing down to Mammon, or overlords who command.
Flattening the Curve is also a spurious concept. The idea was to delay ppl getting ill so that the hospitals would not be submerged by a huge input of patients. So just as many ppl become ill, have severe consequences, and die, but WE prefer to spread that out, forward, on the time sheet? Taylorism and the factory line meets health care! (In fact was on its face proved to be a lie in many places as hospitals had plenty of open beds, even in critical care, see for ex. the UK.) The mandate of health-carers, the State, and the Army (where I live, to set up field hospitals in 2-3 days) is to care for the sick, no matter how, how many, etc. and do so as best as can be done.
Immunityon its own is now a weird buzzword similar to “regeneration” in the Cosmetics Industry. Say.
Kicking in open doors here I know, but the overall picture speaks to present Gvmts (OECD..) having been infiltrated and partly taken over by turbo-charged profit-making (some call it liberalism), via corruption, creating jockeying at the top Mafia-style, and putting out there via the MSM maid-servants whatever BS concepts sound vaguely scientific and professional to keep the public quiet, they believe. Not new of course, but more noticeable now.
Political leaders and COV-19.
Macron on Tik-Tok telling young ppl to get vaxxed! The arguments are as usual, you might get sick, get long covid, have to do it to protect others.
I picked this brief vid (he has multiple vids up ..) as it shows his presentation, the sincere wide-open blue eyes, his black T-shirt with an OWL logo (link), the T-shirts with identical logo for sale? 🙂 (link)
De Gaulle must be spinning around in his grave!
It looks like crunch time for France, things are coming to a head, more on that later — here some background.
Macron, EM, as he ‘runs’ the place (see Merkel or Biden for contrast..) is a strange and exceptional person. Heh, cocktail-psych analysis … The only person as a child he appeared to like – love was his Gran, a progressive school teacher. From a very young age he made definitive decisions. At age 12 he converted to Catholicism (from a vaguely Prot. / secular background, see pic in Church, it is cropped and blurred to obscure the setting, link.) At 15-16 he decided he would marry Brigitte, and accomplished that.
He has never had friends, lovers, or ‘true’ confidantes (afaik!) other than his wife. He has ‘sympathies’, ppl he trusts and is matey with for a while, but those relations often shatter, because of his manipulatory behavior, his exploitation of relationships, his suck-up to and then discard, etc.
He is Narcissus incarnate. EM exhibits manipulatory ‘narcissistic’ traits, but the original Narcissus who looked at his reflection, loved himself, one imagines — walked away from the beautiful silvery image, was unsure whether others loved him, or would, one day… EM is a zealot and considers himself imbued with a mission, to be the best, perhaps even something akin to a savior.
He is a 5/10 actor for a pol; unfortunately, one attitude he has not been able to hide is his disdain, bordering on fear, of the lower classes, the deplorables, the scum, and so they see right through him. (See the mutual loathing, EM — Yellow Vests.)
He (it appears) set out to become president in 2013 (if not well before) at the age of 36. Many observers and commentators have judged that he was aiming for 2022. How he came be elected in 2017 is a whole other, very interesting, saga.
He is an ‘ultra-libéral’, a ‘technocrat’ (which covers many faults and sins), a globalist, a pro-EU-ist, and is totally uninterested in identity politics, LGTB, family policies, housing, global warming, etc.
His techniques are quite simple: Distract. For ex, at the moment unemployment and pension schemes are being dismantled while everyone screams about the “Pass.” Propose, try to enforce, extravagantly, go over the top, and then back-track a bit; still 3 steps forward are gained. Bribe. For ex he just recently gave a bonus (unheard of) to every policeman, and they are not obligated to get the vax, which puts them mentally in the same class as the hyper-rich. Then -> rinse and repeat.
Re COV-19, EM tried at first to understand what was going on, what was the best policy (perhaps merely for self-reassurance or pretence or hoping to be finally vindicated.) Then he was quickly aspirated into the VAX-PASS-REPRESS-KONTROL ideology and measures, as it fitted well with his ideological bents, beliefs, impulses, personal hates and hopes. (Not for re-election, per se.)
I realise that Macron is a very pointed and particular example, an easy sell in a way. Boris Johnson is another story.
tik tok: https://bit.ly/3Awcwge
laligne shop, T shirt: https://bit.ly/3yDvaST
Paris Match, EM at 12, speaking in church: https://bit.ly/3yFo4gS
Roboto, yes, prev. thread, I should have stated, these news articles, about vax passes and the like in different countries, denouncing the unvaxxed, and the like, are projections, not a done deal!
For ex. here in CH I yest. read a MSM article “Life will get VERY difficult for the non vaxxed” but the content was very slim, extensions of the “Pass” will be coming… I guess that will be so – for now the few clusters of infections that have been detected in the city I live in originated in nightclubs, where to enter one needs the “Pass” ..hmm… …
The MSM’s role is scare-mongering and preparing the public for the ‘new measures.’
Your remark reminded me, Macron made his mega speech about the super-stiff Covid measures on TV with the Eiffel Tower as background, unusual – normally he is sitting in the Elysée with a bunch of symbols casually scattered about – : on 12 July. (link 1 France 24 eng)
Before Parliament voted on the measures. It endorsed the “Pass” on 26 July. (link 2 F 24 eng)
Subsequently the proposed legislation went to the Constitutional Council for examination, 5 August. (link 3 Bloomberg eng)
The Constitutional Council scotched a few of the proposals (imho they were included there to be tossed, say, re. firing ppl..) while the “Pass” was given full approval. Which was the sole and primary aim, the rest is fakery and distraction for the gallery.
Both Parliament and the Constitutional Court fulfilled their orders of rubber-stamping approval of the “Pass.”
The democratic and ‘law’ safe-guarding institutions in France are not only dysfunctional, but controlled, subservient to dictates from above. (As persons, hanging on to their privileges, status, incomes..) These instituitions are empty shells, a theatre, a mockery.
Spineless jellyfish yes, UpstateNY. The docs, medical staff and associated (some exceptions of course) won’t be kicking back or taking any action whatsoever against the creation of an official category of ppl who will be viciously repressed, i.e. the unvaxxed.
Who are to be downgraded and corralled, soon to be the victims of the of new-style, oh so modern, witch-hunts..
MSM selection:
Italy, to deny the vote for the dirty unvaxxed (eng.)
France, to deny the vote (eng)
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/no-vax-no-vote-macron-s-vaccine-passport-plan-sparks-fury
In these countries to have voting status revoked is to turn a citizen into an animal that can be hunted, a non-person.
China, access to hospitals, schools, parks, …
Unvaccinated people in parts of China to be denied access to hospitals, parks and schools
Israel to make public the names of the unvaxxed..
For thousands of years scapegoats within communities have been sacrificed…to let the powerful continue their control and domination.
UpstateNYer, to take up the theme of potential vaxs associate deaths, another angle I have been thinking about…at a tangent so to speak: what about vaxxed ppl who caught COV-19 and died?
(Is now openly admitted as possible, by the CDC, other authorities..)
Autopsies harm no-one and provide many clues, answers.
So where was, is, all that super informative data?
Here is one sci. art. July 2021, which seems sensible, but treats – 3 (three) deaths in Hamburg.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1344622321000596
Here one that recos. autopsies, and offers a review (see the paper, lots of info…) Quote:
Nevertheless, only two complete autopsies are described and the cause of death was listed as COVID-19 in only one of them. The lack of postmortem investigation did not allow a definition of the exact cause of death ….
https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/9/5/1472
There are more papers … but no large-scale study (afaik..) – a thorough review would be good, lacking that, the present in the news move comes from a German Chief Pathologist:
The director of the Pathological Institute of the University of Heidelberg, Peter Schirmacher, has carried out over forty autopsies on people who had died within two weeks of their vaccination. Schirmacher expressed alarm over his findings.
German chief pathologist sounds alarm on fatal vaccine injuries
On the Zero Hedge article, “China’s social credit system has arrived in America..” (prev. thread posted by Ilargi.)
My grandfather (my only grand-p who survived WW2) and could tell me stories, travelled all over Europe on a bike (between WW1 – 2), when he was young, there were no controls. The personal touch..
Some ppl had a ‘Laissez-passer’ – a certificate signalling they were ‘unique, important’ or were ‘envoys’ and were thus due some special courtesies and attention. These were handwritten and sometimes crudely stamped with an official imprimatur, by the ruling dignitaries, officials, of the originating country, district. This was the European system 1500 – 1900 (rough dates, but see link) …
For ordinary folks making small trips, or even huge ones, which was admired, no certification was required.
Passports only came in bit by bit. I just looked up the wiki and it seems not too bad? (link.) Now, without re-tracing the history of personal ID, gradually, from (let’s say 1920) the “certification” has flowered and grown.
The last time I went to renew my passport I was directed to a closed booth and special photo-op (bio-metric pass, photo of iris.) Hmm. This actually would be a great topic for a Book. Really, yes, looking for collabs.
The US, more so? see below .. than other W countries, uses and promotes the judgement, the singling out, the branding, categorising, of individuals. It has public Credit Scores, Criminal Records (and other publically available registers..), medical records (easily transmitted), a no-fly list, suspected-terrorist lists, and probably more I haven’t a clue about.
The urge to meld all these together must be very strong.
Note US citizens did not (afaik) ever oppose any of this, maybe Gitmo an exception, but of course nothing happened, etc. It is an old story, creeping authoritariasm is ignored or welcomed when it viciously targets *dirty, dangerous ppl, scum*, sparing *us, the valiant supporters of our overlords* …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passport
Several W countries are just as bad (or worse) but less blatant. France for ex. has a category called *fiché S,* ppl who are ‘at risk’ for becoming ‘violent’ jihadists; a dossier is opened, and the person is tagged, surveilled, monitored. Even visiting a jihadist website can get you on there!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiche_S (in eng)
Since a year or two, all control and stigmatisation of ppl has switched to the oh-so-convenient medical (hard to counter, oppose, illustrate, explain..) rationales re. COV-19.
Terrorists are old-hat ..totally passé! Kicked into the dustbin of history! 🙂
The unvaccinated, deplorable, mentally deficient or deranged, disgusting, plebs are far more dangerous! They have germs in their ugly bodies that can kill you, your sweet gran, your children! No guns or explosives, dark plots, no, just ignorant c***s who refuse to follow The Science!
An echo to prev. thread post, by madamski’s showing anti-gravitation underclothing.
This is more pertinent to today’s ‘reality’:
The alchemy of madness: Understanding a 17th century brain scan.
https://resobscura.blogspot.com/search/label/Medicine
(a good blog btw.)
Fascinating, and shows “plus ca change plus c’est la même chose..” I reco having a look, if only for a plunge into the past.
—> Which brings me to mentioning once again that one branch of BigMed, the industries that produce all the machines that are used in doc offices, hospitals, ambulances, labs, etc., many v. doubtful.. Which are useful? Which are outright scams?
There were some questions about Yuri Deigin.
He has a Biz. degree from Columbia and a degree in Computer Science for UC Toronto.
His biz is rejuvenation gene therapy. He is a “biotech enrepreneur.”
https://ca.linkedin.com/in/yurideigin
He is the CEO of Youthereum Genetics Inc. (Which has one employee, him.)
Our ultimate goal is to prevent or cure all age-related diseases such as cancer, heart disease and dementia by tackling their primary underlying cause — the aging process itself. To achieve our goal we are working to create a rejuvenating gene therapy that could radically extend the lives of pets and humans. The therapy would consist of two stages: first delivering the genes responsible for epigenetic rejuvenation into the body, where these genes would persist but be inactive by default, and then periodically activating them by a small molecule.
https://ca.linkedin.com/company/youthereum?trk=public_profile_topcard-current-company
(my comment: see the near identical spiel to what is touted for some COV19 vaxes, particularly by Moderna)
He is VP of “Science for Life Extension” (seven years)
Misha Batin’s philosophical travel vlog. You will find out why to prolong one’s life, why there is still no cure for old age and what to do about it. At Science for Life Extension Foundation, we believe in the power of art. Meet a new genre—metamodern transhumanism. Stop doing whatever you are doing and watch.
https://scienceagainstaging.com/eng
! >> opens with moving images and sound
He is CEO of Gero Discovery (one year)
Hacking complex diseases and aging with Gero.ai. Using whole-exome sequencing data for in-human AI discovery.
—- all from his official profile. Mr House posted the lifeboat stuff previous.
This ain’t serious ‘bio tech’, folks.
More than 160 people have died and nearly 650 have been hospitalized in Illinois due to COVID-19 in “breakthrough” cases after they were fully vaccinated, according to state health officials.
169 Dead, 644 Hospitalized in Illinois Breakthrough COVID Cases
Covid-19 Breakthrough Infections in Vaccinated Health Care Workers
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2109072
…just two examples.
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Now, it is of course true that all these numbers, of ppl infected, in these and other studies, of hospitalisations, deaths particularly, are small, be they vaxxed or not.
The “math” (pseudo scientific rubbish / calculations that are opaque, or ‘cheats’ / not understood by the general public / any bemused reader..) are confidently put forward imho:
To allow any pov, pro/anti VAX, pro-/anti antivirals (e.g. Ivermectin), pro/anti masks, a long list, to be touted on MSM and to flourish on Social Media.
The aim here is to stir up a storm of confusion, with ppl being pushed this way and that, unsure and destabilized, plus, of course, ready and oh-so-willing to join some camp (cult..) that offers some absolutist pov, some certainty. The PTB use the old ‘divide to conquer’ strategy, to create opposing factions, which one can see up top in the comments.
Then follows feedback into the MSM with guff about social divides, insuperable differences, conspiracy theorists, etc. All this serves to justify that there are no definitive numbers, news, studies, concerning the effect of vaccines / drug therapies / any therapy / preventatives… etc. and nutty ppl can be blamed. Gvmt has no responsibility.
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Because…Several actors don’t know which way to jump, what to support or not, they can’t read the signs, they can’t predict, anticipate the ultimate outcome, they are servants, so have to pander to every faction (mostly Corporations.) This applies particularly to the MSM which regularly puts out reports that are quite contradictory, e.g. scare mongering coupled with reassurance about the efficacity of vaccines, with numbers hidden until the last paragraph, with the whole communication ending up in a crazy incoherent mess. This is done so that an excerpt can be quoted, yes WE DID, give the correct numbers – bash anti-vaxxers – criticise etc. etc.
What Craig Murray did was to write about, detail, cover, on his blog, the trial of Alex Salmond, ex Scottish First Minister, who was accused of (don’t recall the exact terms) indulging in sexual harrasment, so > a court case, with 10 or more complaints.
The jury judged him not guilty of all the charges except one, which was “not proven.”
Murray wrote about the trial and did not divulge the names of the complainants – who were all obviously liars, inventing ridiculous nonsense. (They are protected under the laws that keeps victims of sex-crimes anonymous.) No, repeat, No MSM outlet covered the trial properly, or even at all. Some intimated that Justice wasn’t served / it is hard to prosecute sex pests, get a good result / whatever.
This is a common tactic to discredit men who are in oppo. There was an effort to get the Geneva Gvmt. to accord asylum to Assange (I knew it would fail..still I tried to do my bit..)
Those terrified of such a move / totally opposed to it, fell back on “Assange is a rapist, we can’t do that” which shows that the accusations are put out there to serve as a rationale for contra-actions against the person, demonising them – it is not necessary for anything to be ‘proved’ or even ‘believed in’ ..The slander serves as an excuse to bow down. (By Switz. to the US in this case.)
—> OK this ain’t flash news, many ppl know all this, but it bears repeating.
Murray’s other, extra, sin is that he is for Scottish independence.
Apparently.. ? Alex Salmond hasn’t come out to defend Murray or support him. This is a much graver moral failing than pinching some aides bottoms. Heh. 🙂
Report of the Meeting of the WHO Global Advisory Committee on Vaccine Safety (GACVS),
8–9 June 2021.This internal Bulletin treats two topics. The first is ‘social listening’ and COV19.
excerpts:
However, various challenges persist, such as delayed reporting of adverse events following immunization (AEFI) or no reporting at all from some parts of the world and lack of capacity to identify, in real time, the spreading of rumours and misinformation. The EWS for vaccine-related events could complement functional vaccine safety surveillance systems by identifying vaccine safety issues (real or perceived) through social media listening.
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As the rollout of COVID-19 vaccines started, WHO’s PVG team began setting up and hosting a real-time online listening function that can facilitate early detection and analysis of, and response to, COVID-19 vaccine-related events and concerns.
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The need to specifically address “conversational signals” on the safety of COVID-19 vaccines, as found in existing social listening projects, prompted the need to invest in a platform that can leverage machine learning and artificial intelligence to enable wide-scale tracking and analysis of online public content on COVID-19 vaccine-related events. Currently, the platform is retrieving an average of 33000 items of data on COVID-19 vaccine-related events every day. The platform’s classification algorithms are trained to detect news, official announcements and signs of unusual activities/information/conversation (in relation to COVID-19 vaccine-related events); to extract statistical evidence to reduce bias and noise, categorizing sources of information in order to eliminate noise and to gain time for response when, for example, misinformation or harmful information is being shared; and to filter the popularity of interactions on social media.
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The second is: Safety profile of nOPV2 vaccine. (polio.)
The TAE summary Two Narratives is being discussed / expanded, allright.
One line from the orig. post ticked me.
The people who push the mainstream narrative are evil and anti-science; The people who believe this narrative are naive, dogmatic and anti-science.
I doubt that TAE participants, or some large sub-set of them, believe this. Or I hope so.
The mainstream narrative may have been created, set up, promulgated and enforced by evil plotters and planners but by no means those in the lower ranks pushing the narrative are evil or anti-science.
They are for large part regular folks, lacking a better term, who have been propagandised and quasi- ‘brain-washed’ to adhere to some group-beliefs that are common in their environment, easily spread, and/or/simultaneously forcibly hammered in by the powerful (Boss imposes on employees; yes they agree.. Corp requires vax, no way out, etc.) and so they follow along.
Those who believe the MSM narrative certainly aren’t dogmatic, as they can change their minds easily, like we all can; naive, as compared to whom?
Titles from the last Ilargi post: Vaccine evasion because of mutation, higher COV rates in counties with higher vax rates in the US, Booster vaxes offered soon ..
this entry has more of the same…such as, The vax causes the virus to be more dangerous…more propaganda for ‘boosters’ .. etc.
…Were all predicted months ago by many people, ‘conspiracy theorists’ types.
(Of course the articles are chosen by Ilargi and another blog might give a quite different take, or narrative, via its choice of lead MSM articles, See TAE summary previous, linked, more on that in a minute.)
Yet, it is the “refusniks” (I am reading a novel set in Revolutionary Russia..) who have made the better predictions.
This is for a large part due to the fact that, within the open information space, questioners (heh, better than ‘refusniks’) are the ones who have made predictions, while those following the MSM and Gvmt./other directives eschew predictions, e.g. the detailing of expected results, in favor of an appeal to ‘required’ -moral or seemingly so- principles that underpin necessary actions, and refer to ‘models’ (on the whole very simplistic, static and dogmatic, set up to provide rationalisations), as well as to VALUES such as the need to protect older, vulnerable ppl (reminsicent of R2P, an international scam, now deployed on home turf), and the need for “solidarity” to one’s nation, community, —> humankind.
hmm too long sentence..have to cut/
So that lot (TAE summary > mainstream) are not keen on predictions and don’t make any. It follows that those who do make predictions will be right roughly half of the time!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_to_protect
Re. the ‘protests’ discussion in prev. thread, I agree with russell, ezixa, upstateNYer, polder…in the sense of all good points.
russell wrote: I feel it’s the wrong strategy. It comes from a position of weakness and never really achieves anything except a feeling of solidarity amongst the protesters which granted can have its own benefits.
Protests have become part of performance, show-off, show-yourself, ‘reality.’ Any expectation re. effects (besides the solidarity experienced, see russell), must pass thru a media lens.
If the MSM don’t report the protests, or misrepresent them (showing one crazed protestor hitting a cop for ex.) then nothing is gained, achieved. In F, the media even made the case on occasion that the Yellow Vests were disrupting daily life and *ambulances* and so were nefarious to all. (The YV protests / movement was killed off by COV-19.)
russell wrote: I feel the best way to protest lockdowns, masks, jabs etc is to just ignore them.
Yes, but that is difficult to organise collectively. Ppl tend to REACT instead of staying low-key, conventional, acting as usual.
Collective action on the ground, beyond protests, generally takes two forms.
—Actions that attract attention, a great show, attention grabber, sympathy appeal, etc. Again, via the media.
—Strikes and disruptions in Real Life.
In F for ex. a general strike would put paid to the COV-pass. Nobody is talking about it. (Ppl are divided, because ‘virus’, illness, scary..)
Strikes can be tailored down to specific disruptions by /x/ groups.
Many scenarios have been elaborated over time. A well-known one, occupy an airport. By putting activists in all the toilets, locking themselves in with what they need, a change in queue can also be done. OK, the actors risk quite a bit …but hey ho? Airport shuts down, including for the private planes. Other such actions are not difficult to dream up. Nobody, nobody, is going down that kind of route.
My prev post listed various official Plandemic events (planning for a viral pandemic..)
After some reading and viewing of these.
1. Historically:
Bio-Terror attacks — recall Amerithrax, evil djihadists, etc. Harking back, blatantly, to WW1 use of chem weapons, see for ex. Syria recent, fabricated chem attacks presented as the justification for regime-changing al-Assad, sort of the last-ditch of that story-line imho. The Ghouta attack was the epitome of clumsy fake. Amerithrax was a kind of melding of chem/bio, the agent was bio but the delivery was chem-like.
The threat to the public was switched to the more non-detectable, terrifying micro-organisms, as these are not static but kinetic, they multiply, and travel, on their own. ‘Natural’ uncontrollable outbreaks became the thing, to hide that Gain-of-Function research exists and that it was, is, performed internationally, with the USuk as the most active and sophisticated, ahead of the game.
Today “it is all China’s / other country’s fault” isn’t touted much and when so is unconvincing. No one country created and then released Sars-2 to attack, to kill large numbers, or even just to embarass one or more other countries. We are dealing here with a post-nationalist movement, or *globalist conspiracy*, or if one prefers, coordinated actions by various international actors following foolhardy actions by ‘rogue elements’ or ‘accidents.’
Nationalists are decried as kooks (at best), national leaders are weak and dans la soupe…meaning in difficult situations.
The prime ex. is Johnson in GB. His instincts / public persona, his Tory Base, favored an approach different from what was pretty much forced on him; the tension and contradictions between the two (let her rip who knows? vs. mega control on everyone) has been evident since early 2020.
Result, we gawp at Bojo’s glorious “Freedom Day” with ppl queing up to club, coupled with the annoucement that pubs, restaurants, clubs, etc. will have to triage clients via VAX PASS come Sept !
Corporations (Big Pharma, other Big Corps, Media, bought off / corrupted institutions like WHO, NGOs, etc.) wield mega power.
2. Most or even all of the plandemic exercises concluded that:
—the health-hospital system would be overwhelmed, incapacitated, —- there would not be enough PPE for health workers — some ‘measures’ or ‘controls’ or ‘xyz’ would have to be ordered to reduce transmission — (for some) a vax might be the answer.
Understandable, as the projected no. of affected ppl was very high…the conclusions were baked in. Which countries implemented programs to address these potential failures? No idea, but nothing consequent in reports/the press, etc.
So Reality followed the path laid down (and pretty forcibly imho) by Fictional Future Projections based on often rather fanciful pre-suppositions (aka, inputs into models), often divorced from any medical considerations, knowledge, as well as ignoring or even decrying past methods, most notably the isolation of ill, suffering, symptomatic ppl in *designated, regrouped – suitable* places. (China maybe an exception.)
The other traditional policy, quarantine, applied only to entering persons and goods, sometimes sucessful in the past (hard to judge because of other factors) was melded with ISO and politized giving rise to a weird hybrid of ‘stay at home’ -> *lockdown* policies, resembling a reaction to a war-time threat, or societal breakdown, with high danger in the street, the open, in the air, from above – outside the home in any case.
The ‘quarantine’ wing is exploited much as ‘sanctions’ are, blocking ‘entry’ – now ppl only – not goods.. in senseless series of underground arguments and power-plays (Tourist industry, Airlines, pressure which can be applied by X, Y..)
1/3. What of the relative importance of *vaxxes* (See Dr. Yeadon for ex.) and *social control* in the shape of passes, surveillance of movement particularly, being ordered to isolate for ex. as in Britain now with the ‘pingdemic’ as motives.?…Not incompatible, of course. Pandemic view:
List not exhaustive. (The names are enough to bring up a description – Wiki has entries on many. ‘TTX pandemic’ brings up a lot.)
WHO doc on pandemic preparedness. 1999. Has been updated several times since.
Dark Winter. 2001. Small pox attack. USA. John Hopkins.
Atlantic Storm. 2005. Bioterrorist attack on the USA. John Hopkins.
Exercise Alice. 2016. GB. MERS pandemic. (Reportedly, 11 exercises took place before Covid in GB. 3 Ebola, 3 flu, 2 lassa, 2 bird flu. These remain ‘secret’.)
South Asia Pandemic Preparedness. 2016, Maldives. (Gvmts.)
Exercise Cygnus. 2016. GB. Flu, a virus from Thailand.
Clade X. 2018. USA. John Hopkins. Here we see maybe for the first time, actors playing the part of important ppl.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/events/2018_clade_x_exercise/players/index.html
Crimson Contagion. 2019. ‘H7N5’ flu from China, pandemic. USA. CDC, others.
Event 201. 2019. USA. John Hopkins, WEF, Gates, others. Here, ppl played ‘themselves’, how they would react, for the first time (afaik.)
OTHER: Teaching (indoctrinating) young people via Operation Outbreak:
Vaccinating FAST. 2017. Hohenfeld Germany. EUCOM + US Army. To vax 90% of active duty soldiers in 120 hours.
https://www.dvidshub.net/video/561543/hohenfels-health-clinic-flu-vaccine-exercise
Ilargi: “What DO the vaccines do?” The vital Q!
They might create COV19 positives, Idk, in any case it will be extraordinarily difficult, or impossible, to find out, as data is not being gathered properly, so, no even crude, inspired, off-the-cuff, judgment is possible.
Where is the autopsy data? Missing as well!
(link 1 > one doc lamenting that.)
Interesting: typing > goog any query with ‘covid’ > returns at top their mini Q-and-A, 1st line is:
Will I test positive after Covid vaccine?
Answer:
Getting vaccinated won’t make you show up as positive on PCR tests. That’s because these tests look for copies of the genetic material of the virus as an indication that you have been infected.
(huh ???)
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What is *actually* being injected, what is the specific content? I saw one report of a ‘saline solution mistake’ (link 2.)
Nobody has nicked some vials and sent them off to a lab, afaik.
Surely the likes of Dr. Yeadon or Dr. McCullough could make that happen somehow, but they… haven’t done that?
Move sure to be condemned …. they are brave souls but not that brave.
Rogue actors, for ex. a person posted by Swiss Civil Service to jab at one of the Centers (I know one of these guys) – can’t do it because the whole med-pharma-lab industry is controlled from the top down in a very detailed, rigorous, fashion. No lab will accept a request from Mr. X, a private person re. covid. (where I live.)
Here we are reminded that the media that lies to us lies to us. Reality on the ground is rarely in fidelity with its media reportage. – madamski
The border between Switz. and France is open as usual. (Where I live.)
There are no controls for ppl travelling by foot, by bike, by personal motor vehicle, by public transport, bus, train and boat. All explicitly stated on Gvmt. sites.
No sanitary pass, no ‘super’ ID, or even any ID at all, is required.
Controls are the same as they were in 2018, i.e. a ‘reg’ fine for travelling in public transport without a ticket, if for the first time. A nasty fine for ‘bad’ contraband (drugs..), undeclared goods at the border (by car only.) (There are some xtra conditions but I can’t go into minuscle detail.)
Within the Schengen Area border controls are now impossible to set up.
The infrastructure that has been built, or mostly Not, doesn’t allow for controls. E.g. lines of cars, trucks, waiting to cross have to move fast to get thru, to destination. The staff to enforce controls doesn’t exist, was never planned for. Plus, maybe trivial, the controls would be a violation of treaties, agreements.
On the ground, even a 5m. delay for one truck may lead to massive ‘unrest’ to put it mildly. The borders make no sense, 200 to 300K workers enter Switz. each day, the goods entering, transiting, another story, can’t be halted, and nobody wants to hinder this.
The COV-19 controls / rules, etc. simply can’t be implemented. (Suddenly horribly ! stiff in France, whoo-hoo, low-key is CH.) So they are ignored. Which means.. many people experience the fact that Gvmt. hoo-ha and pronoucements are empty posturing, can blithely be ignored, don’t affect their daily lives.
For now.
Savid Javid, UK Health Min. quote: HELPING US TO PRESERVE OUR WAY OF LIFE
(by getting jabbed) …
(from vid. posted by ctbarnum)
Hardly an appealing endorsement as ‘our way of life’ since Cameron’s devastating austerity, continuing on with May’s muddled incompetence and sharp cruelty, then, whoop-de-doo! onto Bojo’s corporate buddies scams and mad-cap Covid schemes…
Ppl want to continue that, Savid thinks?
UNLESS YOU HEAR IT FROM US IT IS NOT THE TRUTH
quote from Jacinda in Vid. posted by Ilargi.
Wow! Quel courage!
Ardern is a Blairite (she worked for him in her ‘overseas’ experience.. see link), a third-wayer, i.e. a ‘socialist’ / ‘democrat’ co-opted, and bedazzled to be so, to support Mega-Corp Power, be it military, medical, media, etc., continuing wars under RTP and ‘humanitarian’ principles, plus the covert oppression, or in other terms, strict and cruel management of the working class, deplorables and the like. (Some exceptions can be made for ‘at home’.. because otherwise ppl might rebel..)
I hadn’t seen a pic of her for a long time. Her face shows close to alarming anorexia, she should just quit, she is out of her depth.
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quote:
In 2005 Ardern embarked on an “overseas experience,” an extended—usually working—trip to Britain, which is a traditional rite of passage for the children of New Zealand’s middle and upper class. Instead of labouring in a London pub or warehouse and then touring the Continent, however, Ardern worked for two and a half years in the cabinet office of British Prime Minister Tony Blair, serving as an associate director for Better Regulation Executive with the primary responsibility of improving the ways in which local authorities interact with small businesses. In 2007 she was elected president of the International Union of Socialist Youth (IUSY), a position that took her to destinations such as Algeria, China, India, Israel, Jordan, and Lebanon.
Maxwell I am so pleased by your compliment!
Dark Matter, thanks for the list.
The problem with the Triangle is the symbolism is not clear, it has to be explained – most ppl only know yellow star for Jews. Plus the historical roots – hmm.. perhaps not the best..
Triangles in themselves don’t traditionally ‘mean’ anything – the shape was chosen, at the time, merely because it is simple, easy to produce, sew on, etc.
And then the color Red – is strongly associated with communism, leftists, etc.
As Dark said, many ppl probably feel more Black, or Blue, etc. So I suddenly! realised why the Rainbow colors for the LGTB++ ppl – there is no specific color, just all of them. That is actually clever…
So it is hard to choose a color, they have all been exploited so much. Color revolutions are running out of colors … though plant names were used too…
Yeah – there is a real need for some new symbol. Interesting question, problem.
Maxwell Q. posted (prev. thread):
As I drove home, I wondering how this could be: that a highly intelligent, well-travelled, ex bank president, independent, strong-willed woman could suck up the entire mainstream Covid narrative like a Hoover Deluxe? Then I saw Reid’s post of the Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn quote and it struck me: She hasn’t even peeled the first layer of the truth onion. She doesn’t know that “they are lying”. There is a blind trust of what she sees on TV and reads in the newspaper. This always seems to be the case until one of those lies reaches out and bites you in the ass.
What makes this incident relevant to the quote above is that the woman, who has been attempting to raise her awareness, grew up in communist Romania. Like Solzhenitsyn, she knew that governments lie to their people… brazenly, to the full extent of “we know they know we know they are lying”.
In the US at present, the well-placed, the professiona, managerial, classes, those with social capital, the rich … Say, the 20%, who own property, own ‘shares’, have comfortable salaries, sit on nodes that confer decisionary powers, play consequent roles in ‘running things’, etc., the 20% includes the hopeful hangers on who are subservient to that class and/or hope to join it with full accreditation! …are *de facto* obliged to adhere to Gvmt. decisions, mantras, propaganda.
Why? Because the whole kaboodle, the system, has been set up, created, to favor them, keep them on board, protect their privileges, and ensure their complicity. (Some of them know this but won’t admit it.)
An ex bank-president (in the US) can’t possibly become a class traitor, to put it in old-fashioned terms. She ‘believes’ the TV (propaganda), as she must, even if she judges it is shaky or off-key, because the ppl around her, her mates, her buddies, her family, her colleagues (? ?..) all of them, adhere to it, or pretend to. She can’t leave her tribe, become an outcast, and be subject to rejection, Like oh my god did you hear.. she is a conspiracy theorist, a right-winger, maybe even a ‘deplorable.’
The picture in the ex-USSR (I went to Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Yugoslavia, before the fall of the wall) was completely different.
The ‘Gvmt’ powers were decried and dismissed by everyone except for a tight, small, ‘cadre’ at the top. Who kept out of public view.
Docs, U Profs, engineers, Gvmt. employees e.g. responsible for Public Works, aspiring capitalists aka entrepreneurs, ‘traders’ perhaps dubious but!, young ppl hankering for ‘western’ clobber, others, were all super pissed off. That is one of the main reasons why the USSR collapsed.
Even the ‘cadres’ some I met were only compliant to pocket the pay, to feed the kiddies. Particularly in Poland, some of these cadres ran illegal (not nefarious) bizness on the side. They sold washing machines, cement, un-registered photocopy machines, high quality cloth, and shoes from Italy, for ex. via complicated circuits.
ON: Biden admin ‘flagging problematic posts’, putting pressure on big tech to increase ‘fact-checking’ efforts..
The US Gvmt. can crack down on, coerce, co-opt, order about, social media Cos. like Facebook. They could even shut one or another or several down (under some kind of emergency measure..)
Until recently there was no reason to implement restrictions of any kind, in fact Big Tech Cos (GAFAM in F, goog, apple, facebk, amazon, microsoft -note the different functions and biz models-..) were, and are, big money makers (> .. shareholders), screamed ‘modern’, USA rah rah rah, have much influence / control abroad, were favored by tax exemptions / dodges, etc.
It is only, publically, since Biden and the Dems (part of the duopoly) perception that social media were partly responsible for the Trump election (in fact, it was overwhelmingly TV that influenced it, media-wise), coupled with the illegitimacy and thus weakness of the Bidadmin, leading to public avowal of one of the principal hallmarks of fascism, controlling / influencing the ‘new’ media, Big Corps internet social media. Interesting that the proffered public excuse is medical dis-information about COV19, to do with health, vital!
Coupled with RED warnings about extremist thought, positions, gotta watch out, denounce your neighbors, etc. Sublety ain’t it – it is so hackneyed one wonders who is in charge and how long that will last. I guess though that some ppl fall for it, just as they did when they denounced Jews, anti-communists to the Stasi, etc. Plus ca change..
France. Macron made an announcement, a Pass Sanitaire will be needed for entering: supermarket, trains, long distance bus, restaurants, bars, of course any place or venue packed with people, theatre, cinema, gyms, etc.
The pass requires being vaxed or having a negative PCR test. How many days old for the test wasn’t said or I missed it – in any case come autumn these tests will no longer be paid for, be re-imbursed, and as quite expensive, only the rich will be able afford one every / x days.
VAX becomes obligatory for all medical personnel, all those working in hospitals (like cleaners) / others where ‘vulnerable’ people are residing, being treated. As well as for firemen.
This follows the ‘protect the elderly, the vulnerable’ scheme, which was actioned right from the start (e.g. lockdown to prevent hospital breakdown, infecting granny, etc.)
Thus, one of the principal knowlegeable and quite anti-vax professional sectors, who might potentially influence others with coherent explanations, or make threats about strikes etc. are forced to put up or shut up, they might lose their jobs, livelihood, if they refuse. (Nothing much about ‘sanctions’ has been said yet.) So, this professional corps is targetted.
I suspect: the usual Corp. / Fin. suspects are hyper keen on breaking down the Public Health system in F, and privatizing big chunks of it, they are gloating about a fantastic opportunity to get rid of non-compliant old-style refusniks, while retaining the submissive, fearful, obedient, go-along, ppl.
I heard one pundit, a lawyer, on MSM radio speculate: The real question we need to consider is can one (we) replace the 25% (med perso) who will go missing?
— His meaning was, this is all a bit hasty, we need to think about who will step up to be a nurse…hmm…? He was fine with it all but saw a negative impact, which was rather naive. He himself thought he was being caring and ‘sharp.’ Yikes!
Yesterday, 14 July, there were massive demos all over France. They haven’t been well covered by the MSM. One twitter thread. (don’t do twitter but in a quick search found no better…)
The Police and the Gendarmerie, as prof. State Corps are NOT under an obligatory VAX order.
Horribly transparent. Had Macron ordered that for ‘all those in contact with the public’ the VAX was obligatory, including Police, the whole scheme would have broken down.
The keepers of order on the streets and arrest powers (+++ *much* more) are given a Pass to not be obliged to have a Pass, not new in the History of the World, but how blatant can you get?
Teachers will probably be next.
One aspect that stands out: The seemingly desperate hurry, the need to implement as quickly as possible all measures / any damn thing! that will get ppl to agree to be vaxxed. As if there was a window of oppo that will / might, close soon. (Some kind of anticipated resistance?)
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23VaccinObligatoire&src=typeahead_click
I feel unable to stop this slow-moving catastrophe. – phoenix voice.
Yes this is a desperate situation and it is hard to handle, one feels very isolated, and not just because of the potential ‘opprobium’ of being labelled a ‘conspiracy theorist’, which can be avoided (maybe, it depends on society, country, etc.), by a sort of “I am worried about children and young ppl, they don’t suffer from covid, and the vaxxes haven’t been tested on them, so who knows..” – this is a line I have been pushing – …
The vax has been touted up to be: A certificate attesting one is a legitimate, responsible, member of society; someone who cares about others; a person who is now free (or potentially so..) from the strictures of masks, lockdowns, no travel, no bars, discos, restos, no planes (…), etc.
Extraordinarly clever. Being Vaxxed is: Good for oneself, Good for Society, affords social approval on the ground, guarantees approval from authorities, in many situations provides A PASS. At the same time it permits, or even encourages, disaproval and aggression towards outsiders, refusniks, dumb ppl, poor ppl, etc. This was thought out in advance, imho, it is just too neat.
Dr D posted: It has been suggested this was done so Joe could sell Afghanistan to China, or in this case, that they get the multi-billion$ contracts to rebuild it. Makes more sense than otherwise, why not?
Remember all those super-wondrous precious metals in Afgh post 9/11? (Like, invading to take them, why not…)
Well, most of the foreign cos. active there in extraction – + long term projects – are Chinese. (I have no good link to attest to this, as the collation isn’t done.) (Telecoms and so on is another story.)
Brookings in 2013: https://www.brookings.edu/research/china-buys-into-afghanistan/
German think-tank, 2018, long report:
hexadecimal posted: Trump should look into suing the CIA, NSA, FBI, CNN, MSNBC, DNC, etc, etc, etc, for the coup attempt of Russiagate. He should pick a nice round number like a trillion dollars for publicity. ..
Make a fantastic all out show attack and sue the lot of them…! Demand huuuge (as Trump would say) reparations! Maybe, extravagance can serve!… but:
Trump’s present suit will give him ‘bigly’ plus points in the camp of the “deplorables”, and his supporters, and the few (?) who are by principle, independent of personas, attached to a functioning heh “** democracy **” aka the US as a representative republic, those objecting to all-out corruption, manipulation of votes, etc.
Problem: DT can’t win in the courts (imho, after the stolen election and the fact that the judicial system basically refuses to treat this matter) – Twit and Co. are private companies, and much more. It will all drag out in time, and have only negative (from a Trumpian pov) outcomes, conclusions.
Going all out would brand him as a nutter who has lost, it would be said, what slim grip on reality he had —> to being mocked as a senseless and disruptive and nefarious complainer, litigator, doing harm to USA’s great democracy and stalwart people, creating divisions, so to speak, while, to boot, wasting everyone’s time.
But maybe there are some wild things he could do that would be flash and have unpredictable results. IDK, it is interesting to think about. (Nothing will happen.)
On Trump announces class action lawsuit against Twitter, FB, Goog. – prev. thread.
What happened is that social media and TV, and even print, all upped their watchers, users, inscribers, subscribers, ratings, during the Killary – Trump contest. The more they clarioned Trump, or gave him platforms, oppos to speak, time, the better they did. (When they showed Killary.. hm .. pretty dismal..)
When Trump won fair-n-square, “the Dems”, aka the pretend duopoly of front-line pols, went flap-lally-doo as they had not envisaged that outcome and neglected to take measures to prevent it. Understandable, as “the Dems” have no interest in politics at all (it is all about money, +++ amounts, and instituted power positions) and have no clue about what the electorate wants or whatever – anything ‘governance’ – really.
They blamed an outside enemy, a traditional scapegoat (Russia, Russia, Russia) as they confusedly felt they couldn’t diss the deplorables, a large chunk of voters.
In fact, they were incandescent furious at social media and made a vow to control it (after praising it for help in the election of Obama, remember O was the first major Pol. to ‘handle’ social media..); they blamed Assange and ‘hackers’ and swore to have him silenced for ever, as an example, and to punish other ‘hackers’; their loathing for ‘deplorables’ hit the screeching red area -> revenge was on the cards.
Once the Bidadmin was in place (here using Twitter as an example), Twit bans Trump, on orders from the Gvmt. It also toes the line on COV19 origins, censoring various povs, then abruptly switching their position on orders from above (China origins..)
The Bidadmin is more powerful than Twit, and Twit is more powerful than Trump. *Say* .. and so it goes.
The deplorables are being turned into domestic terrorists who participated in or covertly supported ‘an insurrection’ !
Until recently ‘terrorists’ inside USA lands were still painted as foreign agents, infiltrators (> 9/11), or, even if citizens, in the grip of radical, foreign-born, organised, mind-sets, intent on harming the US .. e.g. Jihadists, Muslin terrorists … No more! The enemy is within!
This is a turning point…Imho many ppl understand this but don’t know what to do.
Trump, to endure, or go down in history as more important than a place-holder role, should have pardoned Assange. + His present lawsuit is a mistake, it won’t lead anywhere, and smells like sour-grapes.
On the video where the Aussie TV chap says:
…. “This is the largest clinical trial ever (he is reffering to COV vaxes), we will have enormous amounts of data (…) The message for the public is, it’s safe, it’s effective, it will help protect you (goes on to quote, and others, like your Nonna..) ”
Is extravagantly nonsensical and duplicitous. Yet, it is apparently fine to broadcast on MSM, and is expected to ‘have an impact’, i.e. boost vax-taking numbers, and shore up the self-congratulatory moral righteousness of the newly vaxxed.
I have also seen the various Cov vaxes rollouts called *experiments.*
They are nothing of the kind, and there isn’t any data at all, as it is not being collected by anybody (even rogues, afaik, as it can’t be done, it is all too dodgy, one can’t even make some solid assumptions..)
The VAERS, Eudravigilance, and other data bases collecting reports of adverse effects are there as a sop to the public (docs must know it is BS) — one can complain somewhere! It is official! As well as to support the myth of ‘data collection.’ Of course, whatever is logged in them can be dismissed, even thrashed, as the entries are spontaneous, individual, voluntary, and never checked, collated, analysed, etc. (Imho, many adverse effects reports have been removed, that is just me, one can’t prove that, so who knows.)
And then the message it is safe is banged out again, when in fact the previous argument was ‘the data will tell, be useful’ — well I am kicking in open doors I know.
The crux is, this is what the MSM does, and how that whole circuit (or circus, heh) functions is what has to be questioned, analysed and *in fine*, torn down.
madamski, yes it is interesting. We will see. Putin is more ‘libéral’ (in the old sense, stronger emphasis on personal decision, responsibility, acceptance of outcome, of course in this case it is also politically expedient, as Russians will be Russians and may shrug off any reco. med. stuff..) — than the Church he supports, which is more collectivist. Interesting though that the word SIN, strong, for non-vax decisions was used by the Church. (The Pope hasn’t dared.)
Imho neither attitudes are particularly well tailored to dealing with a novel respiratory virus (which should be a medical, and if needed, State supported affair, such as for say field hospitals..) and merely goes to show that the whole covid affair has been politised, to the detriment of the sick…their families, the community, etc.
Putin will probably as you say stay out of it for some time, that is the best course (from his pov.)
From article up top: Those who refuse to be vaccinated against Covid-19 are committing a sin they will have to repent for the rest of their lives. That’s according to the Russian Orthodox Church…
https://www.rt.com/russia/528425-orthodox-church-anti-vaxx-sin/
Pope Francis suggests people have a moral obligation to take the COV vaccine:
“I believe that morally everyone must take the vaccine” the pontiff said in an interview with Italy’s TG5 news program. “It is the moral choice because it is about your life but also the lives of others.”
Jan 2021, National Catholic reporter. https://bit.ly/2V1PqP9
The Pope has also called for waiving vax patents and for offering vaxes to poorer Nations, ppls.
Interpreting …. the vax is assimilated to an anointment, a kind of physical stamp of approval resting in the body (if not the soul), similar to a pledge of belonging by the faithful, thus the blessed ppl; see anointment, baptism, rituals, certificates, etc.
These religious leaders are piggy-backing on State (Corporate) advisories as they no longer have the power to differ, coerce; but see the ideological fit -> community, etc.
By contrast, on the Protestant side, to drag up the extremes, the attitude of Evangelicals in the US and elsewhere is the polar opposite. (How that works out on the ground is another topic.) Distrust of ‘science’; an emp. on individualism, libertarianism, with God as the ultimate Decider, doesn’t speak to ‘vax’ – in fact afaik “natural immunity’” is a big thing in this community. It seems that Christian Ev. pastors, US, are being pushed to recommend vaxxes. … one link:
Egypt, UAE, Pakistan, Indonesia, have published fatwas certifying COV vaxxes as permissible. (The ingredients are ignored because of ‘life-saving’ properties.) This seems to be the general trend.
Some of the issues laid out…
https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/halal-status-covid-19-vaccine-worries-muslims
Guardian, on UK imams and their message: (pro-vax) https://bit.ly/3wmzfJp
from previous thread. Unvaxed ppl are variant factories.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/03/health/unvaccinated-variant-factories/index.html
I am not a virologist nor even a medico but it appears to me, i.e. as far as I understand it, the very opposite is the case.
What plagues (sic) me is that in the MSM and the ‘experts’ quoted, we hear about ‘mutations’ – everyone understands the sort of random changes (errors in replication, like typos..) that are take place, and that these can lead to viruses that are more XYZ – contagious, deadly, ineffective, etc.
While coronaviruses mutate (of course) they also re-combine, that is, when two versions, a and b, are present, they may exchange little pieces, leading to ‘new variants’ — I’m not clear on what is / not defined as a variant, how consequent does the change have to be? Anyone?
Obviously (some) vaxxes introduce more viral particles just hanging around waiting to ‘recombine’… What happens for ex. in the body of someone who is infected with /COV/ and gets vaxxed with the J and J? Does this provide re-combination opportunites in that body?
Maybe this is off the beam, erroneous, or sorely incomplete, but …why isn’t this discussed? And why doesn’t prudence prevail? Ok, questions are tongue in cheek.
VietnamVet, thanks for the succint summing up in your post.
Only to one point: National Health advisories (boards, etc. instituted since a long time, imperfect in many ways, whatever ..) have been killed off.
For ex. in France, Macron is advised for COV19 by a mysterious Kabal of ‘experts’ or ‘friends,’ called the Scientific Council for COV19.
A collection of yay-sayers, Macron admirers, o-la-la, France is a shining “Start-UP” Nation, old-hat has to be swept away by super sexy tech, innovative medecine, new directions to be explored speedily with probity and rigor, leading to a wonderful National Resurgence, and so on. One of the members is a child psychiatrist, total stooge, another is a lame sociologist.
link in F, but one can note that Prof. Raoult used to be a member but is now listed as ex.
(madamski thx > Putin vax update.)
Health, Disease, Cures, Control
The grip of the charities, trusts (in brackets are merely examples that are well-known – Wellcome), Foundations (Bill and Melinda), the circuits of labs (Level 4, Gvmt. funded for the most part), NGOs, Intl. orgs (WHO), Big Pharma (Pfizer), Part(s) of Big Medecine (e.g. medical machinery, infrastructure, often overlooked), regulatory bodies of various kinds (FDA, SwissMedic), Universities and their research (John Hopkins), Defense, its funding for ‘potential’ bio-warfare; add in aspiring leeching hangers-on; are all, truly, essentially, *globalist.*
In the sense of either operating over big chunks of the world, or as are taking decisions, promoting actions, with their colleagues, other (nominally in-country, maybe not nationals, etc.) at home or abroad, that affect many countries.
One ex., the Novo Nordisk Foundation (bigger than the Gates one, it is said):
Who are we?
The Novo Nordisk Foundation is an independent Danish foundation with corporate interests. The Foundation has two objectives:
— to provide a stable basis for the commercial and research activities of the companies in the Novo Group (Novo Nordisk A/S and Novozymes A/S)
— to support scientific, humanitarian and social causes.
// vids 3 mins about. In 1, “Where does the money come from?” we learn that the Foundation owns Novo Nordisk, a huuge Big-Pharma Company. In 2, “What is the money used for?” all the humanitarian + green tropes floating about are pur forward.//
Their grants related to Covid (only 2.2 million dollars) are all to vague ‘support of women’ and to stay in touch with, pander to, other big players, like Oxfam, Human Rights Watch, UNICEF, Red Cross, and buddies close by, Int. Aids services Denmark.
Millions for COVID-19 initiatives in low- and middle-income countries
from, https://novonordiskfonden.dk/en/about-the-foundation/
In some sense, a one-world-Gvmt. is already operating. Under a humanitarian – health – etc. guise. Rumsfeld with his ‘terrorists are out to get us’, justifying a milit. grab ME oil, didn’t work out well, and is now completely passé.
One way of putting it:
Those in power in the W have passed from attempting to corner and control the input: Energy (oil, gas, coal..), to controlling and reducing the results, output, of free-for-all enthusiastic energy consumption, that is, now on Earth, a staggering multitude of ppl who need to eat and want to have housing, water on tap, decent shoes, some schooling for kiddos, a flat screen..
