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Blueberries round out the flavor in almost every fruit smoothie I make….
Mine most often come as “reclaimed food” from the local food bank, which I freeze for when I need them.@ John Day
Thank you for the idea of the phrase “I had god’s vaccine.”
That is classic.
It succinctly communicates that I am immune and illustrates the ridiculousness of ignoring natural immunity when it is respected for every other disease out there.
And the local retirement community is associated with a local church. Beautiful.My daughter attended theatre camp all week. In her age group (13-17) there were 12 kids. She says on the first day one of the adults asked them, casually (did not require an answer, said they were just curious,) who had been vaccinated. Only my daughter and one other teen was unvaccinated.
I suspect that for those not suffering adverse effects from vaccination in the short term will be largely okay in the long term. Their circulatory systems and other organs may have been damaged by the vaccine, but it may be like minor kidney disease — not a big deal as long as it doesn’t progress further. However, boosters with similar technology that induces more spike protein production every year…that seems colossally stupid, compounding the damage over and over.
*sigh*
I hate raffles, gambling, sweepstakes, and lotteries.TPTB…do they realize that prizes — even definite, guaranteed prizes, not maybes — only work for a subset of the population?
I have 3 kids.
One is motivated by rewards. He loves it when he is enrolled token systems at school, in a behavioral health program, at home. In order to parent him I had to figure this out, and work with it.His twin could take or leave token systems. Rewards are nice to this son, but he tends to do chores and such for the intangible benefits of parental approbation.
My daughter feels manipulated by reward systems. When she is asked to do something, she wants to control the how and when. If there is a reward attached she will work towards it if it is convenient for her, and as long as I understand that she doesn’t have to do it, and sometimes she may not.
A lot of us see through reward systems. Raffles for doing a medical procedure — do they really think that we are that mindless and stupid? The rewards reveal their hand.
Of course, this is the carrot. Next will be the stick. (Oh, and “the stick” never worked al that well with any of my three kids.). (“Stick” used figuratively for “punitive consequences.”)
And, yes, many do see the unvaxed as stupid…because that is how people deluded by brainwashing see those who are not so deluded.
Oroboros: Vaccine passports are psychological instruments of humiliation.
Touche’.
At first it was just Walmart — I complained online, and wore no mask, defying the rule that only the “fully vaccinated” may enter maskless. Now WinCo (grocery chain, ESOP) has the same sign. Next week, the city public library follows suit. Now, with the library, it hurts. I feel betrayed. I have always loved libraries. (Was able to enter — not just “curbside” service now — with my daughter this week. The new librarian who helped us was delighted to actually meet my daughter…apparently my daughter has borrowed more books by reserving them and picking them up “curbside” in the past year than any other library patron of this small branch…and the librarian was finally able to put — half — of a face to the name.). The rule that all must wear masks is stupid — masks don’t protect us — but a rule that the unvaccinated be masked is insidious.
On Saturday I’ve been asked to be a ringer at a singing event at the local retirement community. I’ll likely be the only one masked, the only “unvaccinated” soul, making a non-verbal declaration to all present of my perfidy. I told my friend who invited me (he apologized for the mask rule) that I would wear my scarlet letter (for that is what it is.) If there is no instruction regarding dress that I need to abide by as a performer, I’ll wear one of my “Covid survivor” t-shirts. I feel that I need to shout from the rooftops about this insanity, but I tread warily, knowing that if I step too boldly that cognitive dissonance will come down hard on those whose ear I wish to bend, and will shut their minds. Better to start with just a foot in the door: “Oh, look, she is unvaccinated….and already had Covid…so how then is she still a risk?” If I have to wear a scarlet letter, then wear with pride and make it count!
@ Mr Roboto
While I’m not by any means advocating for job loss and all of the chaos that can cause, it can be beneficial to do an in depth study of exactly how Medicaid works in your state so that you know if/how it may serve as a medical backstop, should you ever need it. I never intended for myself + children to be on Medicaid, but the program in AZ is relatively generous. We have been on it 4 times. (1) I ended up pregnant with twins (high-risk pregnancy) and my high-deductible insurance didn’t cover pregnancy. (2) My toddler broke his femur when we had no medical insurance, requiring placement of a spica cast under anesthesia. (3) I developed a bad MRSA infection in my knee, which had to be surgically cleaned out under anesthesia + IV antibiotics when we had no medical insurance. (4) My then-husband lost his job due to alcoholism, causing the family to then rely upon my self-employment income, and we could no longer afford to pay for medical insurance, nor copays, nor deductibles. I have a client whose daughter’s boyfriend (in his sixties) has extensive medical problems due to type 2 diabetes. Medicaid takes care of all of his medical bills, which helps immensely as his condition makes it impossible for him to work more than odd jobs here and there. There are options — if you need them, there is no shame in using them.Don’t just read websites with little tidbits of information about Medicaid in your state. I have found websites catering to folks with disabilities to give the most accurate in-depth information in this area. Also, take a look at the policy manual for your state’s Medicaid program. It will outline in great detail exactly how eligibility works, and you can see in what scenarios you would or would not be eligible. Taking a vaccine that may exacerbate any health issues you currently have in order to keep medical insurance seems a bit quixotic. The vaccine *could* render you incapable of performing your current job, and then where would you be? A different job with lower pay/hours/no medical insurance/no jab requirement might put you in a situation where you are eligible for Medicaid, and able to survive financially with your health no worse than it is currently.
Here is a break from Covid-stuff:
My domestic partner found this for us to watch last night. We found it fascinating.
In light of covid hysteria…
I found it interesting how it seems in any area of human study, we tend to be very loath to consider new ideas that challenge our belief system.In this case, it is how the language of this remote tribe challenges some of the orthodoxy that linguists have built up over the years (especially, orthodoxy created by Noam Chomsky.)
This is what often happens when new/different ideas challeng the status quo.
@ maxwell quest
This is apt:
“ So, to answer your question, I think they “really believe it”, especially if the status quo has been kind to them, i.e. degrees, success, wealth have been forthcoming. The ego needs an anchor and abhors chaos and insecurity. The response one most often encounters when trying to teach someone a new idea that is contrary to their worldview is instantaneous resistance with emotionality… like a braying donkey. This is experienced as a frontal attack and is rarely effective. Most often, one must be kicked down the rabbit hole via a crisis; one in which it’s clear that the old way of looking at things has failed.”I have suddenly changed long-held and cherished beliefs in my life…on more than one occasion. Always, it was a very harrowing experience that I was dragged into.
@ Bill7
I have found that you cannot convince people until they are open to it.There are chinks in the armor of those who believe the Covid narrative. One of the largest that I’ve found is that they don’t really believe that someone who has survived Covid and has not been vaccinated is equivalent to someone who has not contracted Covid and is unvaccinated. Many still feel vaccination is a personal decision and don’t believe others should be coerced into vaccination. Also, they vaccinate their children out of fear of the Covid disease — since it is fear that motivates them, fear can also change their motivation.
I’m here in TAE because I needed to understand what was going on, and the MSM is fluff.
“Americans can get the Sinovac vaccine in Mexico.“
Good to know. I wonder — for Americans under work or school mandates to be vaccinated to be vaccinated, would the Sinovac one “count?”
I can’t take my kids out of the country (I wanted to take them on a cheap Carnival cruise that began and ended in the US but visited a Mexican port, and their father claimed I would abscond with them, abandoning my family and my business and only means of making an income…nuts) until they are 18, but if this vaccine lunacy hasn’t resolved in 3 years, the Sinovac vaccine in Mexico could be a way for my son to attend college.
CDC: “there is no evidence for lasting protective immunity to SARS-CoV-2 following natural infection.”
Well sure, if you close your eyes and your mind to the possibility that there could be lasting protective immunity for Covid survivors, then you can say there is no evidence and pass a lie detector test — because you never looked for or at the evidence.
Just like the words plastered all over the CDC’s website about the Covid vaccines with EUA: “COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective.”
A little further down:
“Serious safety problems are rare
“To date, the systems in place to monitor the safety of these vaccines have found only two serious types of health problems after vaccination, both of which are rare. These are anaphylaxis and thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) after vaccination with J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine.”If you refuse to look in the VAERS for more than two “rare” symptoms…then you won’t find them. And you can continue to state that the vaccines are SAFE.
I pledge allegiance to the trademark
Of the United States of Corporations
And to the oligarchy
For which it stands
One empire
Under capitalism
Deeply divided
With neoliberalism and injustice for all.There is a sizable number of people in the US that are choosing not to vaccinate themselves. They will vehemently oppose vaccinating their children with Covid vaccines.
Funny-ironic how the Seattle Times quoted by Absolute Galore fails to mention one of the larger reasons for not getting the jab, characterizing the unvaccinated as believers in conspiracies. No mention of folks who already survived Covid not wanting the vaccine.
A couple of weeks back the the centralized part of the church I attended pre-Covid issued an advisory about group singing at church. (It isn’t compulsory — nothing is from this organization, the individual congregations retain autonomy.). The advisory made recommendations about vaccinated and unvaccinated. The music director sent it out. I responded back and pointed out that there is a whole host of Covid survivors not getting the vaccine, carrying immunity. He responded that he had FORGOTTEN all about the fact that there are people with natural immunity. He thanked me for reminding him, assured me that immunity from infection would be included as the congregation decides on its own procedures for reopening. He said that he personally considers naturally acquired immunity to be “almost as good” as vaccine inspired immunity, and urged me to get at least one dose of the vaccine to further my protection.
This is how brain-washing works — “forgetting” facts that have not been programmed.
“Covid 19 may win the presidency for Desantis/Paul in 2024“ — Dark Matter
Agreed. Been thinking along the same lines. Biggest problem: the dems and repubs are like “skins” for an app— changing the look and feel of the government, but not changing the deeper mechanics. The skins both have their respective problems, but the corruption we have been seeing (botched pandemic response, Covid relief pouring money into bags at the top, GofF/Covid origin coverup, vaccine EUAs/suppression of cheap Covid treatments, never ending wars, endless Russia blaming, scrutinization of “domestic terrorists,” oppression of whistleblowers, etc.) is endemic to the deeper mechanics of the US federal government and DeSantis/Paul aren’t going to touch it anymore than did Eisenhower, JFK, and Carter.
Watched a recent show on the History Channel last night about Mt. Vernon. Was interesting…I remember visiting there when I was about 12. The show’s host seemed to struggle with the issue of slavery. In one breath he would speak about how Mt. Vernon operated “like a village.” In the next he would acknowledge that the labor was done by “enslaved individuals”…never mentioning the color of their skin, never calling them slaves, never addressing the issue of slavery. (I know the video was very recent as some of the folks working at Mt. Vernon were masked — while outside, no less!). I find it important to face slavery squarely, and face the fact that it primarily occurred in this country along racial lines. How can we learn from the past — and not repeat its sordid moments — if we do not acknowledge what shames us?
Washington *did* set some important precedences for this country, among them resigning his military commission when the Revolutionary War ended and stepping aside from public office after two terms as president. He had (some) respect for common folk, as exhibited by art depicting their contribution to the Revolutionary War. (No art depicting the “enslaved individuals” — go figure.)
But…his fine drawing room was only for “the genteel.” Commoners who wanted to meet with him in his home sat in the hallway on wooden chairs. And he basically presided as “lord of the manor” on a compound of dark-skinned humans who had none of the freedoms that he had championed, fought for, and governed. He had every fine thing he wanted — a large, fancy room to entertain in that was one of the largest rooms in a private home for miles and miles around. No fences to distort his beautiful view of the Potomac…terraces were created to keep the farm animals from the main house without the use of fences.
What we have as government today in this country is a product of what Washington and his fellows created — beautiful, flowery language about equality of humans and inalienable rights — paired with social institutions that stealthily, steadily keep the well-heeled in the fine drawing room, many of us queued on wooden chairs in a narrow hallway…and so many more are “enslaved individuals” lacking basic freedoms. Oh, sure, we may not yet call ourselves/them slaves…but we are steadily losing our freedoms. (Judges granting us AR-15s notwithstanding.)
Germ
Participant
“A poll from Morning Consult earlier this month found that vaccinated Americans are more afraid than the unvaccinated to eat inside a restaurant, travel outside the United States or go to the gym to work out”Makes sense. Most vaccinated folks were scared and the took a substance over which they had no control for further protection. The protection — and its effectiveness — is fully outside of their control.
For someone who had the Covid virus and shrugged it off — like me, like my family members — the virus was underwhelming. Sure, it was annoying, felt unwell a few days, didn’t enjoy foods as much for a few weeks until my sense of smell and taste fully returned…but it wasn’t something outside of me that conquered the virus. *I* overcame the virus. I was forced to face the fear, and I survived.
It would be similar for someone who is unvaccinated but hasn’t had Covid, but has determined that their own immune system would be sufficient to the task. They may not have yet challenged their immune system with Covid, but are unafraid to to do. Likewise for someone who is not so certain about their immune system but has secured medicine or a doctor willing to prescribe medicine. It brings the unknowns of Covid back into life’s balance, gives power back to the individual.
EUA vaccines don’t carry that kind of power back to the individual.
The cruiseline my parents’ postponed cruise is with last week decided all cruise goers must be vaccinated. My aunt and my mother refuse to be vaccinated. (I’m very glad my aunt was adamant on this…my mother has a mind of her own, but due to childhood trauma struggles to stand alone against those close to her…with my aunt as ally there is no way my mother will be swayed.). She has told my father that he is welcome to go on the cruise with his brothers without her, but that she prefer he not be vaccinated. My parents seldom go anywhere — other than short errands — alone…I expect to hear soon that they have canceled the entire trip, or rescheduled it as something without a cruise.
I am glad for the lawsuit against mandated vaccinations for hospital workers. However, grant the vaccine full approval, and then hospital workers won’t have that recourse. The vaccine safety issues need to become mainstream and well-known. Right now, the biggest indication is over 4,000 deaths following vaccines in VAERS, and pointing out that prior to the Covid vaccines it took 30 years for VAERS to record that many deaths. People know that vaccines occasionally cause deaths and bad reactions, but they expect them to be very rare and happen to “other people.” Just hearing that there are “some” deaths and bad reactions doesn’t faze them if it was someone they don’t know and if it seems “rare.” 4,000 deaths doesn’t seem so high until one realizes how out of proportion it is with the aggregate of every approved vaccine that came before the Covid vaccines.
Unfortunately, I suspect the only way to successfully fend off this vaccine is for negative mid-term side-effects to become so prevalent that the trusting, vaccinated masses are desperately looking for an explanation when their worldview is shattered by reality. This means a run of bad Covid cases, fertility, autoimmune, cardiovascular, and/or fertility issues that affects such a high number of vaccinated folks that the vaccine ribbons change from “badges of courage” to emblems of dread, wondering if the wearers will be next in line to suffer. It is frustrating…I wish no ill on those who have been vaccinated — I have many vaccinated friends and some family — but if this vaccine only causes near-term and extremely long-term side effects, it is going to be a long, uphill battle to win back the freedoms that are being stripped from us.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/restricting-freedom-didnt-defeat-covid
I agree that mandated lockdowns were not necessary to change the behavior of *most* people. However, they were necessary for broad based shut downs of workplaces. Without a legal mandate telling most businesses to shut down unless they were indispensable , or move to remote work, and monetary compensation from the government for those whose income was affected, lockdowns would not have been so effective. We live in an economic system where for many, if not most, survival hinges upon regular employment. Now, whether or not the lockdowns were effective I curbing Covid, or legal, or justified, etc., that is an entirely different issue. But to make lockdowns happen in a large way, it was necessary to compensate — at least in some ways — those who would otherwise lose all of their income. And to prevent the powerful from bellyaching, for some, lost profits were also provided (soaring stock market.)I appreciate the aggregation and explanation in this article: https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-07-salk-institute-reveals-the-covid-spike-protein-causing-deadly-blood-clots.html, however, if the author wants to be taken credibly they should not be making obviously incorrect statements about the vaccines. No, none of the vaccines contain spike proteins in them. (Except for the Chinese ones) they contain mRNA or DNA delivered by an adenovirus that “infect” host cells and turn them into spike protein factories. When such an article gets the basics wrong, the tendency of the reader — especially a skeptical reader — is to discount all information in the article…which in this case would be unfortunate.
I did find this section of the quoted Salk Institute article interesting: “ Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines)….” stated, oh so carefully, so as not to spook the plebes who are supposed to see the vaccine as their safety blanket and savior.My parents — Covid survivors — planned a cruise with my paternal uncles and their wives about 18 months ago. It is getting rescheduled. The travel agent tells my parents that they must be vaccinated, required by the airlines and cruise line. My sister (an anti-vaxxer for years) and myself jump in to do the research: the travel agent is mis-informed or lying. We can find no airlines requiring vaccination, and the particular cruise line involved is not requiring vaccinations either.
Thanks to germ for the study showing Covid survivors have more vaccine reactions.
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Germ
“Some Chicago Restaurants To Create ‘Vaccinated Only’ Sections Allowed Under New City COVID-19 Guidance”This must be resisted — yes, through the courts, but for those of us not attorneys, by simply defying it.
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And…proof of survival from Covid (or SARS) would negate any need to quarantine after contact with an infected individual…but such proof is not sought after by authorities, this information is ignored.
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Moderna vaccine — teens — but wasn’t it a 12 year old participant in that trial who was paralyzed by the vaccine???
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Regarding vaccinating kids…I don’t believe that TPTB know definitively whether or not the Covid vaccines have the capacity to sterilize anyone. (If they did, or suspected that might be the case, they would be avoiding vaccinating their own children. As far as I know, this is not happening.). If they did know that, they would have provided millions of doses of Covid vaccine preferentially to impoverished nations — which is not happening. TPTB are more skilled in controlling the populations of wealthy countries than impoverished ones. For this reason, I suspect that profit is the primary impetus. Of course, problems with fertility would not be a bad side effect for TPTB, as it would serve their agenda. Plus, then billions could be made from the better off populations of wealthier countries who would then be scrambling to overcome vaccine induced fertility issues.“Thrombosis after Covid vaccination”
Bingo! (Thank you Raul.)
That was one of the data points I was looking for. 🙂 Those who are troubled by the Covid vaccines say “animal studies were not performed.” The fact checkers say: “animal studies were performed, but they were started at the same time as the human trials.” So I asked: what are the usual steps to vaccine approval — which steps were skipped? And no one I asked knew the answer. This is part of the answer:
Usual vaccine approval studies include animal studies to determine where the injection travels to, to find where in the body it ends up. These studies were begun for the adenovirus vector vaccines (AZ, J&J, Sputnik) but are on-going and the data has not been released to the public. For the mRNA vaccines, the studies were not done. Instead, they submitted some studies on similar injectables — for Moderna their studies on a CMV vaccine (which was encapsulated in a similar lipid,) for Pfizer studies of solid lipid particles and luciferase. Both types of vaccines are designed to induce the body to produce Covid spike proteins — where those spike proteins might travel, what they might do along their journey, was never studied in animal studies.~~~~~~~
And Denninger (!)
Seems to have realized what many who study capitalism realize: unfettered capitalism cannot, will not solve all of society’s problems. There are some capacities where capitalism fails to give us an adequate result. Medicine is one of these. Yes, we can regulate, but regulation is not an adequate fail-safe either — all we have to do is look at the government’s mis-handling of the pharmacological response to the pandemic to understand that. How do we devise a system that builds on the wisdom of the 18th century that does not create “economic royalists” who undermine our freedoms as they use their wealth to pervert a democratic republican government? FDR’s reforms made good inroads, but have ultimately failed. (Which failure Ike (Eisenhower) could already predict by the end of his presidency.). The only plausible way forward that I have found is to promote two things: “democracy at work” and localism. The first — workers coops instead of standard corporations, where we can leverage “economies of scale,” leverage expertise, leverage many minds and bodies working together, but in a way that serves the combined interest of both the individuals AND the group. Corporations are legal fictions — not real people — created by law and government, holding no “inalienable rights” — and can be limited, changed or disbanded by law and government. The second is about understanding that local communities must have ultimate sovereignty over what goes on locally — no, Chevron can’t come in, extract and dump because some far away bureaucrat gave them permission, or because they bought mineral rights. Locals are affected, therefore the local community must be the one making the decisions and must share in any profits (usually called “surplus” when decisions are arrived at democratically.)From Germ’s comment “ “What Really Happened With that Weird Yankees COVID Outbreak”” — this is a really good, lay person explanation of GVB — M Yeadon
<<Which means there’s no motivation for it to evolve, right?
<<Right. And so if you already have an antibody response — because you’ve been vaccinated or you’ve been previously infected — in that case maybe the virus is only able to grow to a million titers instead of a billion … Well, those million viral particles per ml are each bumping into your already-existing antibodies, so there is actually something for them to try to learn how to evade. That’s when, theoretically, you would see the most likely scenario for immune evasion and mutation that would improve the virus’s fitness against immunity — specifically in those people who have already been vaccinated or infected and who are getting re-exposed and reinfected.<<That’s the theoretical piece. But you have to layer on top of it community transmission. And if through vaccination you can drop everyone’s viral loads and transmissibility by 90 percent, then overall you should expect at a community level to have just many fewer infections. And so that should hopefully balance out that potential increase of evolutionary capacity. In other words, they’re really competing forces — do you want no immunity, and to just keep having viruses transmit unabated, or do you want to have immunity, giving the virus something to learn from, but overall have it happen in many, many fewer people? We don’t really know which exact way it balances out.>>
GVB and M Yeadon
Fascinating. It reminds me of how chicken pox worked for my youngest sister vs. the other 3 siblings. I brought home chicken pox at age 5, from school. All three kids got sick, including the baby. We three never got sick from chicken pox again. Youngest sister (#4) hadn’t been born yet. If I remember correctly, she had chicken pox three times as a kid, the first couple of times was very, very mild.Regardless, this discussion between two scientists is how science is SUPPOSED to work. Then they, and interested other scientists get to work devising means to test their theories so that we all get a deeper understanding of how the virus works and how our immune responses work. Lockstep agreement about “science” is unnatural to the scientific process (but very human, that is why science is a discipline) and one way to tell that we are being propagandized.
@ Polder Dweller
Re: Covid parties for kidsThe thought has crossed my mind. Problem is, need the T-cell test to be easy to access for this, so their immunity can be proven. Kids are simply so prone to have no symptoms, never show positive on PCR test (even with the false positives,) etc. if the kids’ innate immunity is kicking Covid I’m not certain whether the T-cell test will demonstrate their immunity.
But what am I thinking? Why should it be necessary to prove immunity unless someone is, for example, working in a care home for vulnerable individuals? And if immunity doesn’t need to be proven, then why bother with Covid parties?
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Denninger is right…but employees who want to jump to a better ship better make it fast — here in AZ the suspension of looking for work for those on unemployment is ending, fast, and thousands will suddenly burst into the jobs market. (My domestic partner is reacting to this change by setting up a business with the neighbor. He is planning to exit “employee-hood” permanently.)
The “climate of fear” is subsiding. I have been wearing my mask when I go places with my kids, in solidarity with them, to respect the concerns of their father, and prevent their father from making some sort of legal issue out of it. However…my kids’ fear is subsiding. Back in March, two of the three refused to eat inside a restaurant while we were on vacation. But when grandma and grandpa offered to take us all out to a restaurant last week for the twins’ birthday…no one had an issue. Their two teen step-siblings have received their first dose of the Pfizer vaccine. My 13 year old daughter has had several masked play dates in the past year. She must wear a mask at school…when I dropped her off at a friend’s home yesterday she was masked…when I returned she was maskless, and in the car ride home she talked about how it was so much easier to communicate when everyone could see each other’s faces.
The visual symbol of the mask cuts both ways. Yes, it can be a symbol of control, of allegiance to authority, of fear, letting everyone know what we should do. But taking it off is also a powerful symbol…a symbol that the non-wearer is not afraid — not afraid of the virus, is rebelling against authority, does not believe. And it gives courage to others who are on the fence. Although…my partner was raised as an Orthodox Jew and tells me that right now when he goes into a store without his mask he feels like he did when he rejected his religion and stopped wearing his yarmulke (had to look up spelling on that one.)
“No debt” was my goal. For many years, the only debt I had was my mortgage. My parents even invested in my mortgage a few years ago, so that I was paying them rather than a wall street bank. Then my ex decided to use the courts to remove my kids from me…and I had to oppose his efforts. Oh, well.
@ Polder dweller
Thanks! I would appreciate that. I’m very curious whether or not my kids — who quarantined with myself and partner when we had Covid, never got sick, never came up positive with PCR – have immunity.Probably nothing will come of this:
IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT Court
AMERICA’S FRONTLINE DOCTORS
PETITION FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER
vs.
XAVIER BECERRA, Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, AND John & Jane Does I-V; Black & White Partnerships; and ABC Corporations I-V,
Defendants.
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Today America’s Frontline Doctors filed a petition for a temporary restraining order against the U.S. Secretary of the U.S. Department of HHS, Xavier Becerra.
Here’s why:
Children are not guinea pigs: There is a statistically zero percent chance of young people dying of COVID-19. To promote an investigational product that has no long-term studies and no animal studies, to pressure parents and teens to use an experimental product that has not been fully approved by the FDA breaks all of the rules of medicine and the HHS’ own goal to protect Americans.
The expansion of the Emergency Use Authorization (EAU) for younger children is all risk and no benefit. HHS is ignoring the science and the data.
HHS is betraying its mission to, “enhance the health and well-being of all Americans…and by fostering sound, sustained advances in the sciences underlying medicine, public health, and social services.”
Sadly, millions of parents are being misled by HHS Secretary Becerra and the FDA, and we are calling on the Federal Courts to stop Becerra and compel HHS to suspend the promotion and rush to administer a vaccine that has not been fully tested and approved.
COVID 19 Vaccine Side Effects: We’ve never seen this level of side effects for any vaccine without the FDA taking action. The Rotavirus vaccine was canceled for 15 cases of non-lethal side effects and the Swine Flu vaccine was canceled for 25 deaths. But now, by the CDC’s own data, we are seeing a 12,000 percent increase in deaths with these vaccines and they’re still promoting this to our kids.
Support the Science: Under the age of 20, the survivability rate for COVID-19 is 99.997 percent. More than 4,000 deaths have been tied to the administering of COVID-19 vaccines in the last four months as opposed to 1,500 total in the previous ten years for all vaccines.
This last fact alone should be enough to STOP this dangerous vaccine. But HHS, the FDA and the CDC are ignoring the science and they are putting the lives of our children on the line. Thousands of doctors and physician groups across the world are demanding the vaccine rollout be stopped. But America’s Frontline Doctors is the one group that is suing to make sure that the government does not continue down this dangerous road.
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Doc Robinson:
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I anticipate that any news of the ADE will be suppressed, the new wave of severe infections will be attributed to a “new variant” of Covid, and the evolution of the “new variant” (with all the resulting deaths) will be blamed on all those selfish “anti-vaxxers” who refused to take the injections when they should have, and the “solution” offered will be more rounds of new and improved injections.>>My thoughts have been going along the same lines. The only way to show otherwise is to show that the unvaccinated have immunity to Covid and/or are not the ones getting ill. Which will be a tough bar to pass, considering that sub-clinical and false positive Covid cases will be reported in the unvaccinated but not in the vaccinated. This means that the unvaccinated will help us all if they avoid Covid testing (unless it is a bad case, or unless needed to get treatment or other services.). Additionally, it will help if the unvaccinated get the test to show T-cell immunity. I’m wondering whether the T-cell immunity test will soon be offered under medical insurance? And does it detect ALL types of T-cell reaction to Covid (S protein, nucleocapsid protein, etc.) or just to some pieces of the Covid virus? The piece of this that is outside of our control, is just how many vaccinated folks are going to get bad break-through cases? Additionally, if the number of bad break-through cases is proportionately very large as compared to the total mild cases (which will *only* be tracked in the unvaccinated population) it will be hard to hide that the vaccinated are more susceptible to severe Covid than the unvaccinated. The question can be raised (variants or not) if the vaccinated are supposedly protected from severe Covid, why are the vaccinated over-represented in hospitals, suffering from severe Covid infections? (If variants are the “reason” for vaccine failure, then the variants should affect the vaccinated and unvaccinated more or less equally, all other things being equal.)
Hmm…maybe the reason for Bill Gates’ change of heart regarding vaccine patents is because if they don’t get vaccines to impoverished nations, and quickly, the citizens of the wealthy nations are going to figure out that there are effective, inexpensive treatments for Covid and stymying the vaccine roll-out.
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Amazon Ring…I’ve installed these, as well as some of Amazon and Google’s voice activated computers for a few clients. Sometimes I purchase new technology items to try them out. I will not do that for these types of devices. If I want a camera recording and displaying who comes to my door I’ll get an ip camera and set it up to record to a computer or DVR at my home. I can set it up so that I can access the video when I’m not at home. Yes, it is more cumbersome than Ring…but I don’t want or need the police snooping the face of whoever approaches my front door. (Who is going to approach my front door more than anyone else? Oh, right…ME.)
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Dr D
<< The surrounding Arab states could absorb them [Palestinians] all in days, and could have all along. Egypt, Jordan, Saudi, Turkey, Iran, refuse for 70 years in a row, keeping them as their human wall. Just a thought while we’re assigning blame.>>Good point. In fact, I’d suggest that generally, looking to one’s neighbors (community members, etc.) first is generally a good way to deal with conflict — immediate neighbors often have both the most to lose from nearby conflict and the most to gain from peace. When larger, more powerful players get involved, local conflicts can turn into proxies…or the local realities can be warped into something different. If Israel didn’t get arms from the US…a violent suppression of the Palestinians might become less palatable to the Israelis.
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I sent this to Walmart the other day. This is their response:
Subject
Ethics > Ethics Allegations
Response By Email (05/20/2021 10:19 PM)
Dear ———We want to thank you for contacting Walmart regarding vaccinated customers. We want you to know that your comments have been forwarded to the appropriate management team, which will take appropriate action to address your concern. Our team will review these details and will be in touch.
We value our customers feedback and concerns, so we can deliver great customer service in our stores and for our communities.
Best regards,
Brittany
Walmart Customer CareCustomer By (05/19/2021 08:40 AM)
I noticed yesterday that Walmart has a sign next to the door stating that fully vaccinated people don’t need to be masked but others do.This policy is DISCRIMINATORY.
– Many have already had Covid and have naturally acquired immunity and aren’t getting vaccinated because it confers no benefit.
– some took one vaccine but didn’t take the second due to severe side effects
– some are immunocompromised and are poor candidates for receiving the vaccine
– many are too young.
– according to the life threatening and records of actual deaths from the Covid vaccines, for younger people the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus.
– and some are philosophically opposed to vaccines, or just don’t trust the companies making the vaccines.IT IS NEVER APPROPRIATE TO REQUIRE PEOPLE TO REVEAL THEIR PERSONAL MEDICAL INFORMATION IN ORDER TO SHOP!
Regarding Canada’s intended mRNA vaccine plant..
Whether or not mRNA vaccines and other therapeutic biologics can be beneficial medicine is simply not known. Personally, I applaud the fact that Canada is realizing that there is benefit to creating products in-house rather than outsourcing to other nations. In country production builds resiliency. Maybe this will be extended to other areas as well? (Who knows…many do no think as I do.)If it turns out that mRNA biologics are a huge mistake, well…I’m sure that it can be repurposed.
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“James… is leading a separate criminal probe into whether Trump’s company falsely reported property values to secure loans and obtain economic and tax benefits.” Maybe this happened. But it could also simply be a ploy to keep Trump from running for office in 2024 — hey, it worked in Brazil with Lula.
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“ To that end, there was talk of building an “Asian NATO” and of further controlling what can be said online, all in the service of defending and upholding democracy from these foes.”
Say, what?
Since when is a military alliance and an end to free speech and free press a way to defend and uphold democracy? It sounds to me to be the same tactics deployed by empires in every age.~~~~~~~
Have been wondering what the vaccine does to Covid survivors — “ruining” convalescent plasma..that’s an interesting piece to the puzzle.
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<<Germ
Participant
Here in the UK, far, far, far, fewer people are dying than normal>>Of course, that would follow with a virus that kills only the low hanging fruit (those who are of frail health.)
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@ dr d
“ P.S. his UBI is going down in flames.”I agree that UBI is probably not a long-term nor ideal solution. However, I also recognize that studies of UBI show that simply giving resources to people frequently works beautifully — the idea that poverty is a not a personal failing, but rather a lack of money. Another way of looking at it…giving a fishing rod to someone who is starving and next to a lake, but simply didn’t have a means to fish.
My life for the past 9 years exemplifies the idea that poverty is simply a lack of money. (The father of my children lost his job, and post separation/divorce connived and lied his way into nearly zero child support. It is difficult to be a parent and provide financially for self plus three traumatized children when one is also dealing with the effects of one’s own trauma.)So what, then, IS a viable solution?
We’ve had capitalism for at least 3 centuries. Poverty has accompanied us the entire time. Situations that most closely resembled idealized Laissez-faire capitalism were rife with poverty. When poverty diminished, it was accompanied by government programs that are not components of laissez-faire capitalism (social security, minimum wage, banning of child labor, unemployment insurance, SNAP, Medicare, Medicaid, “welfare” (which no longer exists,) high corporate taxes, a near “maximum income” — rate of highest tax bracket was 95% for a while, etc.)
Do you have a solution?
I know what I would like to move towards. I’d like us to try the democratic experiment in workplaces, not just in politics. I also believe that we need to focus on localism — people tend to know their own locality best, and are going to be motivated to make wise decisions governing their own locality. Would it be perfect? No. Never is. And learning to run a workplace together would be learning a new culture — most of us don’t currently know how to do this. When power and decisions are local it is easier for the people to participate in and influence those decisions, whether they are economic or political.
<<Germ
Participant
US Federal LAW prohibits employers, private companies, colleges and others from requiring vaccination with a vaccine distributed under an EUA – 21 U.S. Code § 360bbb–3.>>Yes, but that only protects those who don’t want the vaccine until full approval occurs. And I don’t see that any major stumbling blocks to full approval have occurred. Full approval will happen, and I/we have no power to stop it. It’s a race…to inform enough people about the problems of the vaccines so that when approval occurs there is common enough knowledge that these vaccines are dangerous so that enough people will continue to resist vaccination…also understanding that once vaccinated, those who were not noticeably harmed by the vaccine are cognitively biased to believe that the vaccine is “harmless” for all. There are many possibilities…by vaccinating not just the vulnerable, it will be harder to hide any long-term vaccination effects as symptoms of old age or pre-existing conditions. Covid vaccine boosters may cause a rash of allergic reactions. So many possibilities…and not wishing ill to come on anyone vaccinated, but also understanding that the only way to prevent forced vaccination is for there to be obvious detrimental side effects.
“Biden expressed disappointment in those states that had plans to fully reopen, saying the goal was for every American adult to receive vaccinations before starting big gatherings, with a target date of July 4 for families to get together and celebrate.”
Of course. Which target was set up in concert with Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J when the US government promised the corporations that if they sped through vaccine development, they would offer up the US population with a dollar sign on each of our heads.
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Partner and I have been doing our part to stop the Covid madness by entering stores maskless. Some stores (Walmart, Arby’s) have no masking signs. Others (Fry’s grocery) have outdated signs stating that masking is required due to local ordinance. Not anymore…governor outlawed that. (Which I don’t think was appropriate — I value home rule, and I dislike the executive branch making and revoking laws — that is the legislature’s job. But it was high time to drop masking rules.). Some have new signs (Home Depot) explaining even the vaccinated should still be masked. NONE of them stopped us when we entered without masks, NONE of them said anything to us at all. And, I’d say that 95% of the customers are masked.
@ John Day
Regarding your post, #75419, am I correct in understanding that it suggests that people with type A blood are more susceptible to Covid infection?My mother is type A-, my father O+, I am A+
My mother fell ill with Covid, my father cared for her, but never had symptoms, later testing positive for antibodies. I fell sick 9 days after my mother. (And the only reason I have siblings is because my mother received rhogam after her first 3 births. I have only 3 siblings because my youngest sister was mistyped at birth, and all subsequent pregnancies miscarried.)Regarding AZ 2020 election…I’m wondering about the vote tally receipts from the machines? I was a poll worker here in 2003. At the end of the day, once the ballots are counted, they print a receipt with the vote tally. Unless the machines are different ones than 17 years ago, and have built in cell service, they are not linked to the internet while at the poll location. It does look like this is a hot mess.
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Hmm..I like permaculture and animals…I wonder how many of the “bunny huggers” have actually had to deal with animal pests. I would have no qualms about pouring boiling water on ants…although my favorite way of dealing with them in the house is a vacuum and caulking to plug up where they entered. How is boiling water significantly different than diatomaceous earth, which cuts ants? I often get bit by ants while gardening…it’s awful. And rats are cute, but the damage they inflict to my home is not, and they are not so easy to remove.
Permaculture, like most things, (like critical race theory, like Covid fear,) can be taken too far and turn into a nonsensical religion of sorts.
In Phoenix, I wouldn’t use plastic as a weed cloth — it would get destroyed too quickly by the intense sun here. In the summer, weed cloth isn’t necessary at all. All that needs to be done is to get the water only to the plants you want to have survive the summer. Everything else (that isn’t desert adapted, such as cactus, and even some of those don’t make it) dries out and dies before the monsoons hit in late June (about the time of the summer solstice.) Most things still need water help during the monsoons, due to the high heat. (Last year…the monsoon rain never came.) In every clime, agriculture runs at optimal efficiency when fine-tuned to the local climate.
The peaches have just ripened. I may have finally found a micro-climate in my garden amenable to strawberries — they are doing swimmingly, but will have to see if they can survive the summer in this location. The sunflowers are beginning to bloom; the calendula is drying out and the iris blooms have faded. Jasmine is a riot of scented flowers. Tomatoes are setting and growing — they have limited time for this before the heat becomes intense and they go into semi-dormancy over the summer. The roses and bougainvillea need major trimming. The almond tree is finally producing — looks like I’ll get a handful this year — and a few apples and apricots as well from bare root trees just on their second year here. The irrigation is just about ready for the hot summer ahead…still a drip at one of the sprinkler valves that needs to be resolved.
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When not at stores with my children (have to cya due to their father) domestic partner and I are not wearing masks. Oh, I have one with me, in case a store employee decides to confront me…it isn’t efficient to leave without what I came for. So far, no one has said anything. The gentleman ahead of us in line at the thrift store also wore no mask. We got talking…he’d already had it, he explained. So have we.
Just doing our part to stop the Covid insanity.
I hate to give into the Covid madness, however…a path out of the mess may be to change the 70% vaccinated to 70% immune, and those who don’t want the vaccine can take the immunity test — I forget the name of it, but I’m referring to the new one that recently got EUA, tests for T cell response to Covid, and costs $150. (Not require the immunity test, but subsidize it somehow so that anyone who wants to take it can do so. I would take it, out of curiosity about the results.) Sometimes what it takes to jog people out of fear mode is a bit of reality…I was uncomfortably flirting with fear until I, my partner, and my parents all survived a Covid infection. If enough of the “unvaccinated” take the immunity test, proving immunity, perhaps we can get to the “herd immunity” percentage the VIPs insist on, lower the fear in our deluded peers, and then be able to have rational conversations again with our peers. I, for one, am tired of having “circular logic” conversations with vaccinated friends…Why am I not vaccinated? Short answer: I’m already immune, it would be a superfluous risk. Why not get the “added protection” of the vaccine? Answer: because there have been no vaccine trials of Covid survivors and therefore there is no data on which to base the premise that the vaccine confers “added protection.” But why not add to herd immunity? Answer: [long sigh] Because I already *am* contributing to herd immunity… But how do you know that you are still immune? Answer: SARS, 17 years, etc., and how do you, the vaccine recipient, know that you’re immune? and round and round it goes.
Mr roboto: “My understanding is that public schools in the USA are much more dysfunctional and mind-warping now than they were when I was attending them in the seventies and the eighties.“
In some ways yes, in some ways no. My daughter tested as highly gifted and then was eligible and attended the school district’s “gifted learning center” for grades 2-6. Her education there was phenomenal. One of my sons has anxiety, adhd, dmdd. Regular public school didn’t work for him…but because of the IDEA act, the public school worked with him. For two years he was in a “behavior program” (which failed to reach him) then he was placed for 4 years in a public/private partnership school that joined patience, structure, and positive behavior support in a synergistic way that worked for him. Two more years of “behavior program” — this time functional — and he now attends regular (remote learning) classrooms as a high school freshman, with weekly sessions with the school psychologist and speech therapist. The public high school down the street is sought after by those who don’t live within its boundaries, and stresses accountability from the students (which the elementary school district did not do, instead treating middle schoolers similarly to kindergartners.) There have been both positive and negative aspects to the public school system here, which is what has educated my 3 kids. Some of it is really stupid — like the elementary school district issuing photo IDs to all students and demanding that they be worn and displayed at all times! (My daughter relates that a friend who had forgotten her ID was told by the school that the next time it is forgotten parents would be called. My daughter laughed, knowing that if the school ever called me over such an infraction that I wouldn’t much care, as I’ve made it clear since the universal school ID thing began what my views are on the matter.)
“White saviorism.”
But, wait, Weiskopf is white. Isn’t what she is doing, sparing black children from reading a book rife with “white saviorism” an example of white saviorism?I read TKIMB in high school in California. It is a moving book. An attorney puts himself out on a limb to attempt to achieve justice for a black man on trial. Isn’t it important for oppressed people to know that there are other people who will stand by them, fight with them and for them? To know that there are people who will endeavor to see them for who they are based on their behavior and words and not based on the color of their skin?
We don’t need saviors, white or otherwise. We need thinking, feeling people who can understand the perspectives of others.
@ Germ
Thank you for
“Psychopathy and the Origins of TotalitarianismAmazing. I realize after reading this that I have been intuitively grappling with how and when to reject and refute the pseudo-reality that Covid is especially dangerous, requiring masks, vaccines, and immunity passports. This article has helped me to clearly identify what is going on, and my response to it — when to reject, when to refute…and when to just “go along to get along” which, although distasteful, is sometimes necessary to facilitate making a living and to prevent my ex from creating a pseudo-reality to attempt to wrest custody from me again. I realize that in life I have been enmeshed in pseudo-realities in the past (was born into one, the Mormon Church,) and found the internal illogic and left them. I see how the fiasco behind my ex’s attempt to reduce his child support down to nearly zero (which largely succeeded) and to remove my custody of the children (which failed) unfolded along the lines described in this article, and how well-meaning, compassionate people were ensnared by his web of lies. I see how it is that the well-meaning, compassionate, “liberal” folks of my liberal church have been ensnared by the pseudo-reality of Covid fear-porn, and that it is not that they are inherently “bad” people, but merely deluded. (And I have been likewise deluded in the past, so I do not condemn them for their mass delusion.)
Went to a car junkyard yesterday to pull some parts. There were no signs about mask wearing in the entry/exit building. The employees did not wear masks — only the customers wore masks. I did not wear a mask. Rejection of the pseudo-reality.
I get it.
Now…I will mull over teaching my kids about what I have learned.
@ absolute galore
I obtained a new client once, a small law firm I was acquainted with who contacted me when one computer was infected with a ransomeware virus. The virus encrypts, essentially, all files in the system not necessary to the running of the operating system (I.e. Windows.). For the oil pipeline company, it could mean encryption of all files that are the software to run the pipeline. Theoretically, they should have air-gapped backups of everything important. Even if they do, ransomeware has the potential of infecting across networks…which means each infected computer must be identified and isolated from the network (I.e. unplugged from Ethernet/WiFi), cleaned (probably by reinstall of everything, or complete restoration from backup.). All of this must be done before the computers can be networked back together. So, even if they have good backups of everything, the man-hours to do all of this is immense. Especially because network administrators usually perform such tasks (including backup/restore) remotely, and in this sort of case the restoration either can’t be done remotely or must be done very carefully remotely be creating isolated networks of uninfected machines.
There are drawbacks to networks. (Which was, interestingly enough, used as an explanation of why the fictional Enterprise starship in Star Trek the original series appeared in some ways to be “lower tech” than the Enterprise NX-01 in the Star Trek Enterprise series. The Enterprise relaunch books explain that the Romulans devised a way to send a virus to give them remote control of a starship via its networks, and subsequent Federation ship designs had systems isolated from each other to prevent this from happening.). 😉
A couple questions for the medical folks here, or anyone familiar with the usual process for bringing a vaccine to market. How long do animal trials for vaccines usually last? How long do human trials usually last?
I understand that with the current mRNA vaccines the animal trials began after the human trials started — they over lap. I understand that the follow up with the human vaccine trial volunteers was 2.5-3 months after second dose. What is the usual length of these things? (If I’m telling folks why I don’t want my kids vaccinated, it helps to have my facts straight!)
@ zero sum
In this article: https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038 it goes over how Covid does not effectively infect bats.@ mr Roboto
If you look for a refurbished computer that already has Win10 installed, it will likely cost you less than having you WinXP computer upgraded — there is no direct upgrade path from WinXP or WinVista to Win10. It would be a new installation and migrating in your old data. Alternatively, you could probably find a refurbished Win10 computer for about $300 on eBay with some patience and time looking.
If you go this route, be mindful of the connection to the monitor. XP usually used VGA (analog, 15 pin plug secured with screws) or DVI (digital, multiple pin combinations possibly with a bar or two, secured with screws). The current standards are HDMI and Display Port (both digital.). Many monitors and computers have a variety of these ports on them, and there are adapters to go between them, but it is helpful to check out the monitor ports before making a purchase so that you know what to expect.
If you want to consider upgrading what you have, let me know how much memory you have and the processor model — I can tell you whether or not it is likely to run Win10 well. I’d suggest swapping out your hard drive (which is hopefully SATA and not IDE) with an SSD — they are now inexpensive and much faster than any hard drive from an XP computer (costing around $100, depending on size). Then you could keep your current hard drive as a secondary drive, with access to your current data.
(Did I mention? My primary means of making a living is through my own computer service company.)
Re: silicon chips
@ Oxymoron — thx, enjoyed the article.Since it is so complicated and resource intensive to make these chips you would think that humans would put them in things that are designed to last. You would think that humans would put them in things that really provide an added benefit by having these chips in them. You would think that humans would design their software to promote these chips being used over a long period of time.
Nope.
Our phones and tablets are fragile. When they crack the cell phone provider wants to get us to purchase a new one to prolong our contract. Small electronics are often of shoddy construction, and break in less than a year. (For one of my 14 year old sons, no pair of headphones has ever lasted even a year.)
We put silicone chips in battery testers, in doorbells, in washing machines, etc. — in devices that don’t require silicone chips to work and for which the addition of a silicone chip offers marginal utility. In most applications do I really need a thermometer that sends alerts to my cellphone about the current interior temperature of my home? If someone is home, they can adjust the thermostat or open/close the window. In most cases, if no one is home the temperature is not terribly important — it can vary by as much as 20 degrees with few adverse effects. (Okay…the houseplants might not fare well.)
And we create software that forces people to upgrade our devices, throwing away older devices that work perfectly well. Apple is worse at this than Microsoft — going so far as pushing out updates designed to slow down older devices and batteries that cannot be easily changed by the device owner. (One of the reasons for bloat in Microsoft operating systems are redundancies to ensure backwards compatibility with older hardware and software.) A few years back I ended up purchasing a newer Android device because my bank did a software upgrade that was incompatible with my then Android phone and I could no longer deposit checks using my smartphone. Websites today are triply optimized to display well for computers, tablets, and smartphones. They could be optimized for display on older computers/devices/web browsers as well, to avoid folks feeling compelled to upgrade — but that is not done.
Most of this waste is completely unnecessary. Yet, there we go, extracting and refining ever more silicone chips in billion dollar facilities run by mega-corporations…the rulers of the earth, creating the products that we all go out and buy and use, continuing their dominance.
