PlanetaryCitizen

 
   Posted by at  Comments Off on PlanetaryCitizen

Forum Replies Created

Viewing 40 posts - 1 through 40 (of 98 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • in reply to: Debt Rattle February 17 2020 #54039

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    “The civil servants think they have the right to set policy. And don’t you dare question that. But wasn’t it perhaps high time someone did?”

    Exactly, what we really need is a King and his henchmen! Only then will we have true order in the country!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 8 2020 #53692

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    There is actually something known as “Set” American foreign policy. It is formulated by a group within the State Department called the Policy Planning Staff currently consisting of about 25 people with a variety of types of expertise. It “sets” the course for functionaries within the State Department. A President may be an ultimate authority but the notion that he can’t go against what is “set” policy consensus in motion within the State Department because he is the ultimate authority is a canard designed to obfuscate the reality of the situation being testified to in the impeachment hearings. No one person has all the facts or expertise to decide what is the most prudent policy which is why they have a policy staff. And our current ding dong in chief certainly falls into that category. Vindictive….clearly!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 5 2020 #53542

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Trump has no respect for anything beyond his own self-aggrandizing self image and his petty vindictive hatred of anyone who opposes him. Decorum goes both ways. He either snubs the hand shake in his pettiness (on multiple occasions) or crushes the hand of those he deigns to acknowledge. Offering this man the respect of the office only serves to diminish the office itself. His constant lies diminish the office and the SOTU speech was nothing but a pack of iies. Giving Rush Limbaugh (another purveyor of lies) the Medal of Freedom is like giving Mengele a Nobel in medicine. Especially on Rosa Parks day.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 2 2020 #53367

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    In 1905 there were 19 deaths from high school and collegiate football and another 137 were seriously injured.

    “The Chicago Tribune had the tally of the dead and injured in 1905: Of those slaughtered eleven were high school players and ten of the killed were immature boys of 17 and under. Three hardened, seasoned and presumably physically fit college men were slain. The others were amateurs. Body blows, producing internal injuries, were responsible for four deaths, concussion of the brain claimed six victims, injuries to the spine resulted fatally in three cases, blood poisoning carried off two gridiron warriors, and other injuries caused four deaths. Among the injuries that have not resulted fatally are: broken collar bones and shoulders, nineteen; broken legs, thirty-one; broken arms, nine; fractures to some portion of the head, nineteen; broken ribs, three; spinal injuries, three; concussion of the brain, three.” National athletic associations were formed the very next year due to the outcry.

    According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), seat belts have saved nearly 300,000 lives in the US since 1975.

    “Can I get a real Democrat, a real Liberal in here?” You mean one that can differentiate between John Bolton’s policies and whether or not he’s capable of being a professional and telling the truth when he sees corruption taking place. (Though to me personally he falls into the Chicken Hawk variety of Republican given his lack of courage at actually testifying in front of the House.} You mean one that can recognize the fact that nearly every country that was a satellite of the USSR was clamoring to get into the EU. You mean one that knows an invasion when they see one instead of “reunification.” Ala Crimea and Ukraine, and yes Iraq and Afghanistan as well. Not to mention Viet Nam. That liberal Democrat? Yes we realize the division and dualism with the the Democratic Party. Republicans on the other hand revel in their monolithic duplicity and lack of moral courage.

    I would love to go on but given the current state of TAE it’s a lot like pissing into the wind. Relieving but not very satisfying. Long live Nicole Foss.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 25 2020 #53010

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Yes, yes, we all know that that “paragon of circumspection,” the Trumpster, would never lower himself to base threats and inflammatory language. Nor would Senators feign outrage at what is so clearly just another baseless attack on their fearless leader in his time of personal and professional crisis. I do so hope the burden of such an outrageous maligning of the Stable Genius doesn’t drive them to a rash reaction and not consider the merits as duly sworn to….you know, God, and everybody.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 24 2020 #52976

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Jonathan Turley at his yet again lawyerly disingenuous best. First of all, the GAO has stated that what Trump did by withholding the aid was a violation of the Impoundment Control Act. The “law of attempt” consideration has been pretty well ruled out of existence for centuries. Attempted crimes such as extortion, murder, rape, robbery, etc, are crimes. Actions were taken to be fully successful in the commission of the “crime” in question by Trump and his cohorts. Well beyond the so called “thought crime” defense being offered to confuse the issue.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 19 2020 #52813

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Poland’s Chief Rabbi, Michael Schudrich, stated that “for us Jews, it is particularly outrageous for Putin to manipulate the tone of Lipski’s comments made in his conversation with Adolf Hitler in 1938. One shouldn’t forget Poland supported the emigration of its 10 percent Jewish minority, but it did so partly in cooperation with the Zionist movement, to which it gave clandestine military support. At the same time, however, when the Third Reich expelled thousands of Polish Jews in 1938, Polish diplomatic services, including Ambassador Lipski personally, assisted them. Accusing Lipski of antisemitism on the basis of one sentence taken out of context is extremely irresponsible.”[13]

    Professor Mariusz Wołos stated that “Lipski’s extensive legacy… has no traces of antisemitic attitude. Lipski was not an antisemite.

    Jerzy Turowicz: And I did not say that today anti-Semitism is no longer a problem for the Poles, as it remains a problem for every Christian. What I do think, however, is that the conception and the execution of the “Final Solution” was exclusively the doing of the Nazis, and I do not see why anybody else should be burdened with co-responsibility for it. It was in this sense that I said, indeed, that the Polish anti-Semitism has nothing to do with the Holocaust.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 18 2020 #52794

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    12. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 1 Corinthians 13:12 King James Version

    “Reality,” as we know it, is an extrapolation or logical conclusion/assumption based upon perceptions via the biological 5 senses and the analytical capabilities inherent to conceptualization and its cohort, the symbology of language. The vast majority of humans experience themselves/existence in exactly this same way. Otherwise known as an “Ego construct.” They “believe” in their reality and define themselves based upon their experience of their internal world. Body/mind. Also known as Narcissism.

    Religion postulates that the human state of being sees but “through a glass, darkly. Is there Being-ness apart from an ego construct? Do we “exist” in actual reality? What are the capabilities of perception in a state of Being that transcends identification with the ego state? For behold, the kingdom of heaven is within you. Luke 17:21 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. John 3:3

    Would one say that the Kingdom of God is a state of Reality? Or Logos, if you will. If one can actually allow the ego state of identification to “die” and be reborn will the Being state emerge with its own inherent capabilities? The capability of being able to see face to face, and the capability of real knowing even as they are known (unto themselves)?

    Also, the law is entirely based on the presumption of past events and future harm. Say, a wrongful death civil law suit “attempts” to prove a harm and culpability, and the remedy in part, is to calculate the future value of the loss both interpersonally and monetarily and ascribes a monetary value to both.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 21 2019 #52269

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Raul, the constitution lays out the powers of congress pretty clearly, the powers of the President rather less so. In that sense the Congress is more limited in its power. Congress has the powers of the purse, advise and consent to presidential cabinet members – judges, creation of legislation, impeachment, etc. The President may be Comander-in-Chief but he does not have the power to declare war, except in extremely limited circumstances (per the constitution). Balance of power being the underlying constrictions on said constitutional powers. The constitution gives express power to impeach to the House. The congress is also elected by the people so frankly I see it as a bit of canard to imply that the President has some special dispensation as a result. The fact that it takes a super majority in the Senate to remove him from office is also a balance of power on the power of impeachment. Tripartite government is the law of the land. You needn’t worry, he’s not going to be removed because the Republicans are more concerned on how it will reflect on their re-election chances and their ability to control the reins of power than they are in the truth.

    Are the charges against Trump justified? The House gets to decide don’t they! Trump could have defended himself or allowed those requested to testify and clear his name, but chose not to. And now we are where we are, aren’t we!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 21 2019 #52266

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Impeachment is not a legal proceeding nor does it need to follow such rules because it does not threaten life, liberty, or property, merely the removal from office. The courts have no role in the “legislation.”

    “The Supreme Court has also explained that Congress has not only the power, but the duty, to investigate so it can inform the public of the operations of government: It is the proper duty of a representative body to look diligently into every affair of government and to talk much about what it sees. It is meant to be the eyes and the voice, and to embody the wisdom and will of its constituents. Unless Congress have and use every means of acquainting itself with the acts and the disposition of the administrative agents of the government, the country must be helpless to learn how it is being served; and unless Congress both scrutinize these things and sift them by every form of discussion, the country must remain in embarrassing, crippling ignorance of the very affairs which it is most important that it should understand and direct. The informing function of Congress should be preferred even to its legislative function.”

    “When the Supreme Court has considered similar issues, it held that the power to secure “needed information … has long been treated as an attribute of the power to legislate…”

    “The Supreme Court also held, “There can be no doubt as to the power of Congress, by itself or through its committees, to investigate matters and conditions relating to contemplated legislation.”

    Impeachment is legislation. One is impeached upon passage of such legislation. The House sends its Managers to the Senate to present their legislation, similar to any other in the bicameral process. The House has sole power of Impeachment. If a super majority in the Senate agrees to the articles of impeachment, the officer is removed from office. To include the President.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 13 2019 #50569

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    The notion that Putin would entertain leaving Sryia is ludicrous and laughable in the extreme and is quite simply a ploy to the unthinking that abandoning the Kurds won’t have serious credibility consequences for the U.S. It’s textbook political, tactical and strategic deception. Putin couldn’t want it more and Trump just gave it to him. By extension Trump likely keeps his investment stream in Turkey in tact.

    Russia currently has two recent 49 year leases for it’s naval and air bases in Syria’s major Mediterranean port area in the heart of the Alawite state with major construction and expansion underway. It’s also investing in expansion of two of Syria’s major military bases.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 10 2019 #50518

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    So let’s see if I have this logic right. Socialism is the bane of human existence and the quintessence of the anti-logos. California is socialist (as claimed by the Logos, feel free to correct me if I got that wrong) and therefore incapable of keeping the electricity on. Never mind that they do every other day when the wind isn’t extreme and the power lines aren’t laying on the ground sparking fires in dry tinder and forests that burn down whole towns. Saving towns (anti-logos) and socialism at work. I suppose hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, snow storms, and the resultant loss of electricity is caused by socialism also. California is a shit hole because it is socialist and 10 of the most miserable cities are there, also the largest state by population, 12%. Nine of the worst cities are in NJ. Socialist state for sure, 2.9% of US population. Midwest has 12 of the most miserable cities. Population, you do the math. The south has 19 of the most miserable cities in the country. Definitely a socialist swamp if I ever saw one, your math to do also….as per The Organic Prepper. Socialism equals misery! The Logos surely agrees, no?

    DC is the center of capitalism. At least that is where a very large share of capital goes as proffer for its, capitalism’s, maintenance and abuses like monopolization, wealth aggregation, tax loop holes, limits to regulation, ability to pollute the commons, externalization of costs onto the public, repeal of net neutrality etc, it’s a long long list. Wall Street being its home away from home. 10 richest zip codes sounds like a center of capitalism to me, ain’t no shit holes in those zip codes.

    Examples of socialism: laws, courts, police, fire departments, highways, public utilities, schools, social security, insurance, FEMA, workman’s comp, medicare, VA healthcare, labor standards, the list goes on. Societies, laws, (socialism) limit the abuses of unfettered capitalism. People organizing to determine the course of their society…socialism, also known as participatory government. Perhaps you are thinking of something besides socialism.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 8 2019 #50488

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    “So, I’m not very optimistic they’re an example the U.S. is capable of emulating…
    IMO, the U.S. is at critical mass; internally paralyzed and open to any crazies organised enough to be effective…

    Perhaps! But I don’t believe things are altogether that different from the gilded age. Teddy Roosevelt was pretty successful at taking power away from the oligarchy. I’ll grant you however that his ascension to the presidency was a fluke. As far as being paralyzed, I guess we’ll just have to differ on that opinion.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 8 2019 #50471

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    “Those Trump Towers are a pair of glass buildings in Istanbul that have borne Trump’s name since 2012. Trump doesn’t own the buildings—the situation might be less complicated if he did. Instead, Trump licenses his brand to the building’s actual owner, Turkish business magnate Aydin Dogan, who has been described as the single largest payer of taxes in Turkey. He’s a one-time antagonist of Erdogan who is now in step with the strongman.”

    “The conflict of interest and the way it could affect Trump’s position on important issues—or at least the perception of how it could affect his position—quickly became obvious after Trump made this comment. In June 2016, after Trump said he supported a ban on immigration by people from countries he said were associated with Islamic terrorism—he called them “terror countries”—Erdogan objected, and so did Dogan, and both threatened to remove Trump’s name from the buildings.”

    “That’s no small threat—according to personal financial disclosures filed by Trump, since he launched his bid for the presidency, he has earned somewhere between $3.2 million and $17 million in royalties from the deal. (The amounts are given in ranges; the precise figures are unclear.)”

    ” When he ran for office, Trump said he would handle conflicts of interest like this by turning over his businesses to his children. He didn’t. Instead, he simply stepped away from the daily operations of his business empire, but he retains full ownership of almost all of the assets, including the licensing company that collects royalties from Dogan.”

    To your question RELATIVE TO MY POST…I could care less who the nominee is. What I want is to see this MFer in jail. I want him impeached. I want the Senate to NOT convict because Pence would just pardon him like Ford did for Nixon. When (or IF, if you like) I want him indicted for his crimes and imprisoned.

    To V….That’s how you restore some modicum of Democracy. We could all take an example from Iceland.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 8 2019 #50467

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Not a rumor! Trump has a conversation with Erdogan. Immediately decides he is removing U.S. troops from Syria.

    “I have a little conflict of interest ’cause I have a major, major building in Istanbul,” Trump told Bannon during a Breitbart radio show. “It’s a tremendously successful job. It’s called Trump Towers—two towers, instead of one, not the usual one, it’s two.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 17 2019 #49936

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    So let me see if I have this right? This according to the European Court Press Release…

    The Hermitage Fund (Browder) has 3 subsidiaries that are taken over by Russians and subsequently apply for tax refunds and receive them from the Russian Gov. to the tune of 145 million Euros. Browder’s attorney, Magnitskiy, is then arrested as part of a criminal group accused of tax evasion after alleging fraud in said the incident. He dies in prison due to lack of “medical care.” It’s reported by the attending physician that Magnitskiy starts to behave in an aggressive fashion. He’s handcuffed and beaten with a rubber truncheon. An emergency psychiatric team is called but by the time they are admitted to the prison he is dead.

    Four years later Magnitskiy is convicted posthumously of tax evasion. The European court found it credible that he was beaten to death but an investigation by the Russian Gov. found no persons chargeable in his death.

    So the entire assertion of credibility regarding the Russian Gov. and therefore the denial of one essential complaint of wrongful detention by Magnitskiy’s family is that Magnitskiy was being investigated for tax evasion prior to the charges of fraud alleged by him with regard to the take over of the subsidiaries of the Hermitage Fund. The European Court could find nothing to the contrary about Magnitskiy’s alleged crimes some 12 years later.

    What a crock of BS.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 13 2019 #49843

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    It’s most certainly a pig, cloven hoofs and all. And more appropriate to the Trump/Mnuchin 100 year bond/negative interest rate proposals. Just needs a bit-o-lipstick.

    https://www.wikiart.org/en/tag/pigs#!#filterName:all-works,viewType:masonry

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 28 2019 #48270

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    I’m not exactly sure what it is that you say is not being discussed about an economy being out of balance when that’s pretty much all Bernie and Elizabeth Warren talk about. As does AOC in her House questioning putting on full display how the rules allow and in fact support corruption in Congress.

    You can buy that watch on Ebay all day long for $138 and if you’ll notice in the photo of her, everyone was wearing white and I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a $1000 outfit. God forbid a pretty woman running for Congress would dress stylishly. And by the way, the press takes pictures of AOC in a vein similar to most celebrities. Children in prison camps, not so much.

    in reply to: Concentration Camps #48187

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Ilargi, I appreciated your article and the depth of the better aspects of humanity to which it speaks. I’ve been to Amsterdam many times and have of course read The Diary of Anne Frank. I’ve been to her hiding place that is now a museum and in fact had a lengthy conversation standing in line to get in with a woman who’s family had been friends with the Frank family when they lived in Frankfurt, IIRC. Perhaps just in that her story becomes ever so slightly a bit more personal to me. Miep Gies actions speak to the courage that underpins most of what can be considered noble in human beings.

    Whether AOC used the right words or not in reference to camps for migrant detainees or not is debatable. What’s not debatable is that it certainly focused attention on just one aspect of a crisis that is in dire need of some solutions. A subject a little more lengthy than I care to address at the moment but blowback, greed and corruption are words that come to the fore. What makes AOC so appealing to many is her courage, her passion and her dedication to the common individual. Something world desperately needs more examples of.

    These are the numbers of the last 3 administrations before Trump with regard to Deportations.

    Clinton: 12,290,905
    Bush: 10,328,850
    Obama: 5,281,115

    What’s higher for Obama is removals that are based on crimes. See the graph in the link below.

    https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/obama-record-deportations-deporter-chief-or-not

    in reply to: Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran #48127

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    The Shah was installed in 1941 by the British and the Russians as I said. Moseddeq was elected to the Iranian parliament in 1944 and was able to get passage of legislation to nationalize the oil industry and the Shah was effectively forced to appoint him as Premier (prime minister) in 1951. The Shah fled the country for a few days in an attempted coup by Mossedeq in 1953. Mossedeq’s opponents, with the help of the British and the US, were able to restore the Shah back to power pretty much immediately. Mossedeq was convicted of treason and imprisoned for 3 years and then kept under house arrest until his death.

    The Shah was the US and Britain’s man in Iran as I believe history attests to as well as a brutal dictator, but the US did not install him beyond their efforts as a participant in defeating an attempted coup by Mossedeq.

    in reply to: Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran #48121

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    First of all, it was not the U.S. that installed the Shah in Iran. It was the British and the Russians who installed him because his father (exiled to S. Africa) would not cut ties and expel Germans from the country. At the time it was all about Lend Lease and the Trans Iranian railway to keep the Russian military supplied in WW2. The U.S. didn’t get involved until after it joined the war.

    The US house just passed a bill this week to do away with the AUMF now that the Democrats have power. AUMF bills have been brought up repeatedly but always crushed because the Repubs wouldn’t allow it. McConnell and Inhofe will kill any resolution on this one in the Senate, no doubt. Let’s just be clear on who is doing what here shall we? It may be possible that some Repubs will join the Dems in the Senate and support the bill, as it was with the one to end support of S.A in it’s war in Yemen. We’ll see, but I doubt it.

    What ever the reason is that Trump stopped the attack, we’ll never know with even a modicum of certainty what it is because Trump is incapable of telling the truth. His reality is entirely the one he creates about himself in his own head. AKA narcissistic personality disorder and he’s got it in spades.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 21 2019 #48094

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Kim Dotcom probably has it right. Seems like a lot of provocation going on and I have my doubts about it coming from Iran. Stockman has it pretty well nailed as does Tulsi Gabbard although she could have added Israel to the quote.

    Methane will continue to release at an increasing rate whether there is a big burp or not. Feed back loops are well underway and humanity will evolve through very difficult times, if it indeed it ultimately continues to evolves at all. We’ll think the dinosaurs had it easy when they were wiped out in a matter of hours (according to latest theories).

    in reply to: Where’s Jerry Dammers When You Need Him? #48013

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Great music, had me dancing in my desk chair. I didn’t remember the name Jerry Dammers but I certainly remembered the music. My status as troll and snowflake aside, let me offer this. Shadowproof”s protest song of the week project.

    https://shadowproof.com/category/dissenter/protest-music-project/

    Further, it’s a biological fact that when overwhelmed, the autonomic nervous system (aka the reptilian brain) will immobilize into a state of freeze and collapse. The only thing that brings the organism out of that state is the prospect of success, or said another way, hope! Movements by groups and individuals all get their motivation through hope. Dammers inspired hope and did it extremely well. Orienting is the first response to threat and in the case of a constant negative input stream (in not knowing what to believe, all information becomes negative) avenues of real success become few and none, and the human being will just check out into it’s own internal world and immediate personal eddy of its own needs. Of course the solution to cognitive dissonance is to just choose a belief. Feels better even if it is just hate. Entertaining opposing possibilities and concepts opens the door to perception but it’s not a comfortable state. Wouldn’t Aldous Huxley be proud.

    Ilargi, I think many of your points are quite salient and I don’t have any desire to quibble with them. That said, the entire thrust of this particular thread, and less you than your comment section, is one of accusation, condemnation, nihilism, and general negativity. Most people just won’t care or listen unless they happen to personally resonate with that particular approach to life. Entire countries and their people are maligned with little regard to the diversity of opinion and efforts at just society within them. Australia the other day was a perfect example. With V. it’s all day everyday with the U.S. It’s not what you say, its how you say it. Inspiration doesn’t come from condemnation. Ask any kid.

    I think there is value with a lot of what you do here, and, some of the content I take strong exception to and occasionally make a comment. As to my being flounced, some arguments are just too stupid to be continued. But more to the point, my life does occasionally supercede my “trolling.” No doubt I’ll catch shit anyway.

    Enjoy your day! It’s pretty much all we have at the end of it!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 13 2019 #47956

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    The point is that he was hired by a Washington based political research firm. He turned his findings over to the FBI as well as the U.S. press. The information was also given to a sitting U.S. Senator, President Obama, as well as President elect Donald Trump himself. “Steele said he decided to pass his dossier to both British and American intelligence officials after concluding that the material should not just be in the hands of political opponents of Trump, but was a matter of national security for both countries.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 13 2019 #47935

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    @ zerosum Christopher Steele is not a foreign government. He is a private citizen doing “oppo research.” Something you seem to espouse.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 13 2019 #47930

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    If a foreign government wants to make information public they are free to do so. U.S. political campaigns are not allowed to receive anything of value from a foreign government to include information (dirt). It’s against the law, as it should be. It’s a corrupting influence on the political process and makes the politician beholden to the foreign government. Not exactly rocket science, is it!

    If Trump didn’t like what Bolton was doing he would fire his ass. He either has no control over his cabinet or he wants it both ways. You know, wanting the appearance of ending wars but just can’t help it if one of his appointees starts one. Unbelievable!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle June 10 2019 #47864

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    I’ve said it for years. When it comes to the U.S. government…Republicans are evil and Democrats are stupid.

    in reply to: War and Young Americans #47663

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Yes, okay, my bad. Half a million plus dead in Syria and 5.6 million plus refugees. The Afghan president did invite the Soviets in thinking he had an ally to help stabilize the country. They then assassinated him, installed their own president and proceeded to invade the rest of the country per the so called Brezhnev doctrine. Your white washing of history is to be commended and I have no desire to take them on point by point. Life is too short.

    If the Russian Bear has changed its spots, more power to them. That there are free and fair elections as well as a free press is not supported by any of those who monitor them.

    So, I concede, Russians love their children more than Americans do. For whatever that might be worth. Have a nice day.

    And for the record! I think U.S. foreign policy has in many ways been a negative force in the world. I wish you luck with your Russia.

    in reply to: War and Young Americans #47637

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Restless…First of all I’m well aware of the issues with regard to American foreign policy and do not support nor condone much of it. Most particularly the recent wars in the middle east, and I speak out against them on a regular basis. So let’s just say we have that in common.

    Secondly, at the time Russia invaded Afghanistan they occupied the Baltic countries, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania, Albania, and E. Germany. Their history in Cuba, and their proxy use of the Cuban military in places like Congo, and Angola. Their involvement in Egypt, Ethiopia, Somalia, etc. And that’s just the short list, I could go on. So please don’t tell me of Russia’s lack of equivalence. Russia killed into the millions in the Great Purge before they were ever invaded by Germany in WW2.

    I’m also well aware, (and not pushing any trope) of the developments of the Viet Nam war and that it was a war for independence from colonialism and had elections scheduled in which Ho Chi Minh would have won handily and it’s a tragedy that it wasn’t allowed to take place. That doesn’t mean that Soviet expansion in Europe, their involvement in Korea as well what was happening in China wasn’t in the calculus with the creation of SEATO and the subsequent misunderstanding by U.S. leaders of the realities in Viet Nam and how it was a separate issue from all those other factors. Like I said, it didn’t happen in a vacuum and Russia was an aggressor in the Cold War and it’s actions contributed to a whole host of hostilities around the world. That doesn’t release the U.S. from the condemnation it deserves for Viet Nam and it doesn’t absolve Russia of its contribution.

    Is Russia different today than it has been in the past? Perhaps, but given that it’s effectively a dictatorship as well as a criminal oligarchy, I have my doubts.

    So please don’t tell me what I should think or say about something as inanely stupid and offensive as a statement that Russians love their children more than Americans do because they don’t send them to die in wars far from home. I do believe they have been bombing the shit out of Syria for a couple of years now so they can support a dictator who has killed millions of his own people. Is it a 1000 miles? What earthly difference does it make?

    in reply to: War and Young Americans #47632

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Yes restless I take your point. Some points need to also be taken and in my opinion this was one and one I didn’t start.

    “Over time it has become apparent, the Russians love their children far more than we love ours; we keep sending our children off to wars of choice…”

    I’m sorry but it is a rather outrageous assertion and one that deserves countering with a few facts.

    And to quote you…”It’s a free country!” And…”Denial isn’t healing!” Russia is not the innocent that so many on here try to proclaim any more or less than the U.S. is innocent. One can also assert that Viet Nam was an outcome predicated on communist expansion taking place all over the globe at the time. And according to you we are talking about the U.S. going to war. Events don’t happen in a vacuum be they misguided or not.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 28 2019 #47629

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Excellent photos. Really love them! The second one reminds me of the joke about the dog catching the car. Now what do I do! I collect a lot of the art you post. These two will certainly be added. 🙂

    in reply to: War and Young Americans #47628

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    List of wars the Russian Federation has been involved in since the 10 years the USSR was in Afghanistan 1979-89.

    1991-93 Georgia
    1991-93 Abkhazia
    1992 Transnistria
    1992 North Ossetia – Alania
    1992-97 Tagikistan
    1994-96 Chechnya
    1999 Dagestan
    1999-09 Second Chechen War
    2008 Georgia/S. Ossetia
    2009-17 North Caucasus
    2014-present Ukraine & Crimea
    2015-present Syria

    in reply to: War and Young Americans #47611

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    @hugho – don’t forget the heel bone spurs. I too cringe inwardly when someone thanks me for my service. It’s the new patriotism in vogue so that people feel like they are doing their part by supporting the troops. The only thing missing is pom poms. The best way to support the troops is to keep them out of war in the first place. And if they do have to go at least support healing their injuries instead of denying injuries like agent orange and Gulf War syndrome. Finally having enough data to decide in the affirmative is a bit late after they mostly are all dead.

    Pence (I’m sure in his own mind as well) is one of the major cogs bringing us the War of Armageddon. Brace yourself for the Rapture that never comes.

    in reply to: War and Young Americans #47609

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Military Madness….is killing the country – Graham Nash. Got a brand new 200 gram super vinyl copy off ebay the other day.

    As an early 1968 draftee as well as antiwar protester (yes you can be both and many were) I was lucky enough not to be “in country” but was well within staging area of the theater of operations, I watched as the B52’s went off on their nightly bombing runs. The difference between then and now is the draft. Everyone had the potential to have skin in the game (yours or your family and friends). The media did the job they were supposed to do, bring home in detail what was being done in the people’s name. People like Daniel Ellsberg risked their freedom to expose what was happening. We have fine examples of that today but not many really care because they derive the benefit (rationalized) without no potential for sacrifice.

    The original line that did not make it into the final copy was…The military, industrial, congressional complex.

    As a user of Veteran’s health care as well as a trained trauma therapist I have inquired into what the treatment is for those with ptsd. The reason there are so many suicides these days is because the VA is doing exactly the wrong therapy. The main thrust of what they are doing is making the problem worse, not better. Desensitization therapy only fragments the psyche even further.

    to be continued later….

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 25 2019 #47574

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Just because someone says it doesn’t make it so! Like just for instance, Trump is a highly stable genius.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 25 2019 #47573

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    Oh Please!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 25 2019 #47561

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    First of all, I’ve been reading TAE many years before the advent of the Donald and have always lauded your website to people I know. It’s been my go to site with my morning coffee since early in its inception. I even kept reading the articles you claim are attacking the attackers that are telling lies. You are the balance as you like to say. I didn’t start commenting until fairly recently. I’ve pointed out time and again how factually incorrect the thrust of what your post is when you use sources like RT and Sputnik News, to mention just a couple. They write things, that while to a casual observer would appear to be true, the actual source content is often originally diametrically the opposite. If that makes me a troll so be it. Consider me the balance to the balance.

    You’ve commented how some of your personal friends have communicated to you that you appear to be a Trump supporter and said, if they think that then you can see how others might think so too. You continually come down on Trump’s side (seriously, no matter what it is) and everyone else is a liar. You post things that the Executive Branch is doing that you oppose (as do I often) and call it the U.S., or Empire, or it’s one of Trumps underlings, but never criticize him.

    Just because there isn’t enough “evidence” to indict a criminal conspiracy (ie. conspire to commit a crime together) doesn’t mean that (per the Mueller report) the Trump organization wasn’t highly receptive to what the Russians had to offer. “I love it!” Per D. Trump Jr. The criminal always knows the crime better than the investigators. Which is why Trump tried to obstruct the investigation, he knew he was guilty. And, per the M. investigation, If we thought Trump hadn’t obstructed justice we would have said so. Anyway, I’m done.

    If you see that I am no longer posting, your site will have taken up residence with Kunstler’s and I’ll have gone the way of MoFlora.

    P.S. Dump Dr. D and get Nicole back.

    Peace out

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 25 2019 #47558

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    And the daily coating of teflon for the Donald by TAE arrives on schedule. Only one person can activate emergency powers to sell arms to S.A. without congressional review, and that is the president. And yet the posting comment is “Empire.” The last two instances of “the emergency” were just prior to going to war in the M.E. Individuals start wars for the sake of Empire. Not vice versa!

    From Dr. D… “Ugh. But do remember the minute we stop with violent, regressive, oppressive S.A., the Petrodollar and US$ will fall. You want that now? This minute? Or later? I mean, your choice.” Not saying you’re wrong! And yet U.S. export volume of refined petroleum products including gasoline are at all time highs even though U.S. demand is also high. Corporate empire/greed is transnational. They buy the politics/weapons they need/sell. One hand washing, you know!

    Who’s judiciary is it that is invoking the espionage act to indict Assange? Obama’s declined to bring charges for the very reason of first amendment issues.

    As to Kunstler: One of the posters in his comment section said it the other day. Ya gotta be getting paid to write this crap!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 23 2019 #47526

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    I’m pretty sure you’ll like this. Reminded me of some things I’d forgotten.

    18 Ways Julian Assange Changed the World

    As to the baby being out of proportion…clearly you never saw my nephew at that age 🙂

    in reply to: Debt Rattle May 22 2019 #47511

    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    V. thanks for the addition of your last sentence. I’ll make a point of looking at it though I’m not completely ignorant of the concept.

Viewing 40 posts - 1 through 40 (of 98 total)